WEBVTT - I'm About Arguments... Not Genitals 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:06.160 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:10.760 Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm strong 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:17.280 and get Katie and he Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.000 This is a law that bands medical treatment only when 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.560 it is prescribed inconsistent with an individual sex. Our argument 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.440 is that that treats people differently because of their sex, 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.840 and therefore the court has to treat it like all 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:39.000 other forms of sex discrimination, and that's why it's unconstitutional. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:47.480 Right. That is the recent convert to felladomy. You got 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:53.040 to mention Strangio, Who's I think given the obviously female 0:00:53.159 --> 0:01:00.760 voice and everything, and it's a transgender person. I'm about arguments, genitals. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:01.800 I'm Jack Armstrong. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:02.640 Wow. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:07.680 Good stuff. So anyway, that is the trans lawyer speaking 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.760 before the Supreme Court hearing in which the Tennessee law 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.880 which banned I'm going to try to be neutral here 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:26.800 hormonal and chemical treatments for youth who believe they suffer 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:32.840 from gender dysphoria. Now I will describe it in the 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.360 way it ought to be described. Tennessee is trying to 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:40.399 say no, you can't do experimental and permanent treatments on 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.480 the basis of no science that hurts kids for the 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.839 rest of their lives because you got some weird gender 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.600 ideology that nobody had ever heard of a decade ago. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.600 Hurts kids. All respond to the same as Sodomore. Every 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:57.800 medical treatment has risks, including taking an aspirin that is 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:04.680 one of the most astone stupid things ever uttered in 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:09.520 the Supreme Court, up to and including when the Supreme 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:13.000 Court janitor came upon something strange in the toilet bowl 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:17.240 and said, what's that? A fish that was smarter than 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:20.639 what Soda Mayor said. I will, on the other hand, 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:22.880 also admit that sometimes I mean because she's not a 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.320 stupid woman. Law school is hard and she graduating at 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.680 the top of her class. I disagree with her vehemently 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.480 on the country and the Constitution and the rest of it, 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:33.040 but she's not dumb. Often the justices will probe the 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:37.400 attorney's arguments looking for weaknesses on their own side of 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.560 the point of view. So I'm not going to presume 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:44.120 that Sonya Soda Mayor is that blank and stupid. On 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.840 the other hand, she and Katanji Brown Jackson are so frickin' 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.880 ideology ideologically I can barely stand it, but I want 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:52.639 to play a couple of highlights of some of the 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.240 questions and answers with the attorneys, and then I've come 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.400 across a really absolutely terrific breakdown of what the case season, 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:04.400 why it's clearly clearly going to be decided and must 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:08.480 be decided on the well our side of the question, 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.600 and for what it's worth. Blah blah blah. Disclaimer about 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.000 reading he leaves blah blah blah. The questioning is often 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.720 zabaz abazaba. It certainly sounded as if the conservative majority 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:22.440 has no intention of letting this lawsuit stand. And just 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.440 so you understand, because there's been some confusion I've sensed 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:31.400 through reading emails, the state of Tennessee said, no, you 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:38.400 can't do these bizarro completely unsupportable by science procedures on kids. 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:42.480 You gotta stop. And the plaintiffs are saying, well, that's 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:46.360 sex discrimination because you can feed testosterone to a boy 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.360 you lacks testosterone, but you won't feed it to a 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.240 girl who's momentarily confused about her gender. That's that's a 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:55.440 violation of the fourteenth Amendment, an assertion that would have 0:03:55.560 --> 0:04:00.600 the writers of the Fourteenth Amendment either taking their head 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:04.760 and wonderment are go fawing out loud in my opinion. Yeah, 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:09.040 So the question is whether or not states can outlaw this, Yes, exactly, Yeah, 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.560 as twenty six have and it'll be fifty if there 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:16.640 is a god soon. This is indeed Matthew Price who's 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.200 arguing in favor of sanity, and so do Mayor in 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:20.400 forty three, please Michael. 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.960 Cannot eliminate the risk of detransitioners. So it becomes a 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:31.080 pure exercise of weighing benefits versus risk, and the question 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.440 of how many miners have to have their bodies irreparably 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:38.640 harmed for unproven benefits is one that is best left, I'm. 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:44.559 Sorry, Counselor. Every medical treatment has a risk, even taking 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:50.200 aspron there is always going to be a percentage of 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.560 the population under any medical treatment that's going to suffer 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:58.279 a harm. So the question in my mind is not 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:05.080 do policy makers decide whether one person's life is more 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:09.480 valuable than the millions of others who get relief from 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.920 this treatment. The question is can you stop one sex 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:14.600 from the other? 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:16.839 Well, now that I hear it in context, she was 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.840 not probing. She actually that's her argument. No, she's as 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.200 stupid as I said, she wasn't in the way that 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:28.320 ideology can like numb intelligence and remove it from the equation. 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.600 So she's buying that. I meant to look this up 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.680 because I remember the origin of the whole they'll kill 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:39.560 themselves if you don't operate them on thing was incredibly shaky, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:44.880 slash fraudulent paper was put out based on hardly anything, 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:49.440 and people so in support of these trans operations for 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:53.000 kids have turned it into like a golden rule that 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.240 we all just agree with. If you don't let a 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.680 kid get operated on, they're gonna kill themselves. So is 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.640 that what you want? You want a dead kid, Well, 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:04.080 then you better give them the operation. Yeah, unbelievable. So 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.799 you ever worked in a place where the new person 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:11.120 in the organization dominates all the meetings, what do you 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.520 think of that person? Well, just as Catangi Brown Jackson 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.960 is the new kid on the block, talks like twice 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.960 as much as the second place person. She dominates this 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.359 stuff all of a sudden, for what it's worth. But 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.920 she's a knot. That's the main problem. She's an forty 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:26.600 two Michael. 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.480 You know, as I read the statute here, excuse me 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.560 the case here, you know, The court starts off by 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.000 saying that Virginia is now one of sixteen states which 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.880 prohibit and punished marriages on the basis of racial classifications. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.280 And when you look at the structure of that law, 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.400 it looks in terms of incontinuing you can't do something 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.240 that is inconsistent with your own characteristics. 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:48.360 It's sort of the same thing. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.760 So it's interesting to me that we now have this 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.279 different argument, and I wonder whether Virginia could have gotten 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.440 away with what they did here by just making a 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.880 classification argument the way that Tennessee is. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:01.520 In this case. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.880 Yes, I think that's exactly right, that there is absolutely 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.880 a parallel between any law that says you can't act 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:09.840 inconsistent with a protected. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:14.360 Characteristic Jackson and the lawyer for the US government, which 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:18.160 is arguing against sanity, thanks Joe Biden, are saying that, well, 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.680 it looks like we could ban interracial marriage because it's 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:25.600 very similar, which ignores a giant, huge aspect of the 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.160 question here that I'll get into in a bit. I 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:32.120 can't even believe serious attorneys are making that argument. I'm astounded. 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:36.400 So that was KBJ Katanji Brown Jackson. So in case 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.840 you didn't fully catch what Joe said. At the end 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.080 of every Supreme Court session they add up the number 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.560 of words everybody said so you can see who talked 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.560 the most, and that they put out the chart like 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:52.080 a week or so ago. And she as the newest justice, Yeah, 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.480 talked twice as much as the chattiest other justice. Most 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.560 of the other ones were like a third of what 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.840 she taught to a tense Who does that? Who shows 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.960 up to a new workplace as the brand new person 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.920 and is the and talks twice as much as everybody else? 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:14.440 What kind of personality is that? Progressive activists wow now 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:21.320 representing sanity Justice Alito talking to the wispy bearded young 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.280 mister Strong Gio forty five. 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.600 But on page one ninety five the CAST report, it 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:36.239 says there is no evidence that gender affirmative treatments reduce suicide. 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.560 What I think that is referring to is there is 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.160 no evidence in some in the studies that this treatment 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:47.720 reduces completed suicide. And the reason for that is completed suicide. Thankfully, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.320 and admittedly it is rare, and we're talking about a 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:54.520 very small population of individuals with studies that don't necessarily 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.800 have completed suicides within them. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.680 However, they're okay, he gets kind of rambling there. The 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:04.199 point is, and Alito brought this up in several different contexts, saying, hey, 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.560 there's no evidence for what you're claiming. In fact, to 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.720 cast report, this other report, the study out of Norway, 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:13.200 they've all contradicted what you're claiming, and there's sciences sound 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.079 and he was greeted with mumbo jumbo. I also want 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.720 to get to Justice Kavanaugh on forty six. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:23.079 If it's evolving like that and changing, and England's pulling 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:27.720 back and Sweden's pulling back, it strikes me as pretty 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.600 heavy yellow light, if not red light, for this court 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:34.400 to come in the nine of US and to constitutionalize 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.920 the whole area when the rest of the world, or 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:39.840 at least the people who have the countries that have 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:44.400 been at the forefront of this, are pumping the brakes 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.240 on this kind of treatment because of concerns about the rests. 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:51.720 Yeah, I like Kavanaugh's argument like a bit of a judo. 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:56.240 It's like you're saying that the science is much more 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.640 solid than it actually is. But if it's so, you know, 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.160 strong on both sides, let's leave it to the states. 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.160 Is what Kavanaugh is saying, Yeah, it's kind of the 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.920 old double reverse in that he's saying, we're not going 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:12.199 to turn this into a constitutional issue that prevents states 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.880 from doing what all of these countries are saying should 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.760 be done. Get out of here with that, you know, 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:20.840 I want to get just to make a point real quickly, 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.400 Jonathan Turley and forty eight Michael then will move on 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.840 to what I think is fantastic analysis. Parental rights is 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.120 often not discussed it. 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:33.400 It's viewed as sort of the weaker of the panoply 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:37.720 of rights that we supposedly hold. But many parents are 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.200 objecting that their children can't even get an aspirin in 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.880 school without their consent, but they can get so much 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.400 else that might change their identity and set them on 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.840 a path that they want to be part of that 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:51.760 decision making. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.839 They want to play a role. They know that child 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.199 better than anyone. Yeah, if you've ever been in that situation, 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:57.520 I have. I think you have two, Joe, I think 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.440 you've talked about over the years where yeah, give my 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.520 kid they got a horrible headache, they can't see straight, 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.920 give them a freaking ibu. Profen, Well, we can't unless 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:06.640 you come down here. 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Tennessee's law bans puberty blockers 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:14.079 and hormone therapy for transgender miners and imposes civil penalties 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.080 against physicians who violate the law. 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:22.320 The tapster are there. So here's the deal. The people 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.600 challenging the Tennessee law that the Supreme Court Court heard 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:30.559 oral arguments on yesterday banning cruel experiments on confused adolescents 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.520 in the name of radical gender ideology, are claiming the 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.440 fourteenth Amendment, which demands equal treatment under the law, is 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.439 at stake here that if a boy can get testosterone 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.400 for some legitimate medical problem, then a girl must be 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:48.840 able to get testosterone for gender bending reasons or else 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.320 it's a violation of the fourteenth Amendment, which is a 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:56.880 bizarre and wildly incorrect interpretation. And here's why the Fourteenth Amendment, 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:04.199 and indeed, the the fourteenth Amendment says nothing about sex discrimination. 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:08.680 Probably says nothing about women with penises. No, no, I 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.360 never said it. Never come across that in the Federalist papers. Yeah, 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.000 And they make the point in the National Review that 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.320 the people who are behind the fourteenth Amendment would be 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.800 baffled by the claim that they were creating a constitutional 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.880 right for confused children to take powerful drugs that irreversibly 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:26.000 change their genitals. But anyway, here's the problem. The fourteenth 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.640 Amendment was all about race. There is a presumption in law, 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:35.400 as there should be, that it bars irrational distinctions on 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:40.160 the basis of race, because there's a presumption that most, 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:44.560 if not well most, discrimination based on race is irrational. 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.440 I don't like black people, they shouldn't be married to 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:52.320 white people. Whatever. That's just not rational. Now should black 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:59.720 people have more testing for sickle cell anemia? That's not irrational. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:04.680 It's a very rare but strong example of a rational 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:09.880 distinction on race. Sex is different and has a different 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:13.160 level of scrutiny differences in sex because there has long 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.440 been recognized, and by long I mean like since the 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:22.440 dawn of man, that there are differences, rational differences between 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:26.960 men and women, which is why forever we have had 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.480 men's bathrooms and women's bathrooms, and locker rooms and sports 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.520 in a thousand other examples having to do with medical 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:37.800 care and society and the rest of them, different level 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:43.640 of scrutiny. Completely, sex differences are real, and by the way, 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.240 it's worth mentioning humanity wouldn't exist without those differences, and 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.480 what fun it is to combine those two differences and 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:55.640 make a baby or at least practice the act now exactly. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.960 So the specific question before the court in the Scrima 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:04.520 case is the Tennessee case, is whether the level of 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:08.080 scrutiny that's applied to racial stuff should be applied to 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:13.840 sex stuff. In other words, the lawyers for the radical 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:19.600 gender theory folks are saying that there's no there's practically 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:24.200 no rational differences between men and women. It's all imagined. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.280 It goes to the part of radical gender theory exactly. 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:32.120 It's a social construct. The Biden administration, Puke and the 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.000 individual challenges the Tennessee law argue that it is sex 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:39.040 discrimination to restrict gender transition treatments but not block it 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:43.480 for little boys who need it. Whatever. So it's the 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.920 level of scrutiny question. I won't get too far into 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:50.640 legal weeds, but it asked the question backwards. As this 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.640 writer puts it, the equal protection question always comes down 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.720 to whether a distinction is rational. And the distinctions between 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.920 men and women are one hundred percent rational. I can 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:08.080 see we're kind of running out of time. Even the 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.399 Solicitor General conceded that Tennessee could ban a drug that 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.200 was useful only in sex transitioning, because then the state 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.320 is regulating the treatment, not its purpose, and they engage 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.879 in a wild and wooly semantic argument that just doesn't 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.760 hold any water and again rests on the idea that 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.760 there's no rational difference between men and women, which is 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:31.760 one of the most idiotic philosophies ever offered to humankind, 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.439 and the fact that some over educated white people have 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.520 fallen for this mostly and other people too. It's just 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.919 it's a measure of how ideology can sweep away intelligence. 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:46.440 So go get them, Supreme Court. No way this challenge 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.399 that the lost hands and God willing someday that the 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.000 twenty six states that banned this crap will turn into 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:56.280 fifty lots of stuff to talk about the killing of 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:58.719 the United Healthcare CEO, which has brought out the worst 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:02.080 in some people. Do you see Hunter Biden at the 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.240 Arby's and Ventura yesterday, He looked pretty happy. You talk 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.119 about a guy who's had a lot of weight lifted 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.679 off his shoulders. He is happy at the Arby's. Everything's 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.800 coming up, Hunter, Armstrong and Getty. 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.240 You have a killer who is trying to send a message. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.920 The question is what does the message really mean? What 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.800 you can glean from it? If the target was carefully 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:31.280 selected the head of a major healthcare insurance entity. Is 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.760 is it directed at United Healthcare? Is it directed at 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.600 that CEO? Or is this a killer who is targeting 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:43.520 the insurance industry, which has caused everybody from hospital executives 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.760 to insurance providers yesterday to start doubling and tripling the 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:48.200 security around their top people. 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:55.679 Yeah, it's interesting. That's what I thought yesterday, is that 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.000 this is going to be a lot about least the 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.320 speculation is going to be a lot about to have 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.960 something to do with health care and insurance in this country, 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:05.240 and the way a lot of people look at it 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:06.840 and get angry about it and all that sort of stuff. 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.399 That was John Miller on CNN. Here's a former FBI 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.720 director McCabe on CNN talking about it. 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.800 The details and nuances of this attack are extraordinary. They 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:20.800 do betray an astounding level of pre planning of organization, 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.919 and it should also say cool headedness, and all of 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:28.719 those things together would point towards a very competent assassin 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.879 and potentially even someone who does this for hire. 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.080 Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to eavesdrop on 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:39.159 Carter page right and that's something that he did, all 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.560 the things he did, and he's the go to on 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:46.240 CNN for expertise, all those intelligence guys, Brennan and that 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:49.320 whole cabal. Sorry to distract back to you, So the 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:53.720 CEO of United Healthcare gets murdered, assassinated in cold blood. 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.040 I've heard back and forth with experts and know a 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:01.280 lot more about this than me. On clearly a professional 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:05.600 assass and this, this, this, and then clearly not because 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.440 of this, this and this, like going to the Starbucks 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:10.800 and standing in line for five minutes for your latte 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.679 and being on camera right before you go and shoot 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:17.679 the guy, for instance, leaving a phone behind right. Yeah. 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:20.320 And I came across a Twitter thread of a firearms 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:24.160 expert debunking half a dozen things he saw catching fire online. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.440 This is clearly that and he said, no, it's not. Yeah, 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:32.040 so yeah, we crap. We always say the first twenty 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:33.919 four hours, don't believe anything you hear it. It might 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:35.600 turn out to be completely different, and it might be 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.159 that way for a couple of days here. But some 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:43.480 interesting stuff around here around this. For instance, the first 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:45.800 story I heard yesterday afternoon was about how he was 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:49.960 being investigated for some stock trading where he looks like 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.520 he got some inside information, dumped a bunch of stock, 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:57.040 like millions of dollars involved in this, dumped a bunch 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.399 of stock right before some announcement was going to be made, 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.520 and it was investigated for that. You could have friends 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:05.159 you're involved with who they're afraid you're gonna flip and 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:11.120 tell you know, so obviously that's a possibility. You need 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:18.240 better friends then you start doing crimes like that and colleagues. Yeah, 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:20.680 he and his wife have been living separate for a year. Okay, 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.239 anytime you got that going on, there's probably you know, 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:27.000 jealous lovers, anger, divorce, child, custody. Who knows what sure 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.320 could be. Yeah, that's a possibility. And then he runs 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:37.119 United Healthcare, giant giant insurance company in America, and a 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:39.480 lot of people get pretty worked up about when insurance 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:41.399 turns them down for this or that. A lot of 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:44.879 people do, or if somebody they care about deeply dies 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.640 because they couldn't get the paperwork to go through. Yeah, 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:51.000 there could be violent passions for a lot of different 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.960 reasons in this case. And then if it turns out 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:59.920 that there were words written on the bullets, that's pretty interesting. 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:04.360 I'd say, that's you. That's silly Agatha Christie stuff. Yeah, 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:07.040 that doesn't happen in real life. Yeah, it's interesting. So 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.200 he shoots a guy in cold blood and he's wearing 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:11.040 that jacket. You've probably seen the pictures of your end 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:12.400 of this at all, and you can't see his face, 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.359 and he just walks down the street and heads towards 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.159 Central Park and disappears, and he's on the loose in 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.639 Manhattan somewhere. Or if he's like an actual professional assassin, 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:23.680 he you know, he's on a plane to Mexico by 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:27.399 the end of the day. Who would be paying for that? 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:29.840 I don't know, But I mean, if you start doing 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:33.359 stock weirdness at to the tunes of millions of dollars, 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:37.520 you're talking about wealthy people being involved, and then anything 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:41.240 is possible. This stuff bothered me a lot, though. So 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:44.400 here's a professor. His name is Zenkis, Professor Zenkis at 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:49.360 Columbia University. Here's his tweet yesterday after this happened. Today, 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.560 we mourn the death of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.800 gunned down. Oh wait, I'm sorry. Today we mourn the 0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:58.960 deaths of sixty eight thousand Americans who needlessly die each 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:01.920 year so that in insurance company exects like Brian Thompson 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:07.240 can become multimillionaires. That's from a Columbia professor. How do 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:11.040 you like that, boy? Columbia is just teeming with nut jobs. 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.920 I mean, there's a case to be made on that topic, sure, 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.960 but what convinces you, well, you know what? It's again? 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.960 A tangent came across another example of this sort of thing, 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.240 and this guy was writing an editorial that was really 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.760 good about how university presidents have to not be so 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:30.720 bubbled and have to understand, you know, how their conservative 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:35.080 students feel. His purpose was really good, but his words 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:40.119 revealed the extent to which academics live in this artificial 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:43.199 little world that the rest of us can't even dream of. 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.440 It's like Riven Dell on the Lord of the Rings movies. 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.000 They've got no competition, there's no economic ups and downs. 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:52.560 They've got tenure. What the hell is tenure. I've spent 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:56.800 every day my career thinking this as the last day anyway. 0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.760 So yeah, so this guy has such a bizarro, unreal 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.760 distance he thinks this is a good idea. Barry Weiss's 0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:04.800 response to that, the Great Barry Weiss was this is 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:09.399