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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: Episode four of DITII Hi I Stay production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. And it is Friday, March tenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. My name's Jack O'Brien aka The Discord.

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Speaker 1: Wants nikes. They're looking for podcast. Tell them it ain't

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Speaker 1: likely said I'd look like el this Costello. I fight

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Speaker 1: that good fight like Modello. That is courtesy of Bacaroni

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Speaker 1: on The Discord. I think in reference to the fact

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Speaker 1: that we didn't drop an episode without warning one day

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Speaker 1: earlier this week, and that is on me. Apologies, but

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Speaker 1: everything is okay, and yeah, thanks for bearing with us.

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by today's guest co host

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Speaker 1: jumping in last moment. Due to some technical difficulties, it

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Speaker 1: is super producer Becca Ramah. Not gonna lie, Jack. It

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Speaker 1: took me a second to figure out what song. Well,

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Speaker 1: I didn't have the if I could, if I if

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Speaker 1: I had a helium balloon here, that would have helped. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would have helped. But I got it. Towards the end,

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, Elvis Costello modelo rhyme. I have

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Speaker 1: to hand it to mister Lockerroni or missus LOCKARONI. I

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Speaker 1: actually don't know. Well, Becca, thank you for jumping in

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Speaker 1: last moment. Of course, we are thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: in our third and fourth seats by the hosts of

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Speaker 1: the podcast Endless Thread from w bu R MPR's Boston station,

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Speaker 1: which examines the blurred lines between the online world and reality.

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Speaker 1: It's Amrie Siebertson and Ben brock Johnson. Wow, you said

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Speaker 1: my name, so chef's kiss perfect? Perfect, No, no, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I went and listened to how you say it, and

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Speaker 1: I figured you probably usually get it right some days.

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Speaker 1: That's right, the most basic amount of homework, the least

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Speaker 1: amount of homework, exactly, and I will take the credit.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Yes, thank you, thank you. I am a professional.

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Speaker 1: Also the best, the best and most fully committed Frank

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Speaker 1: Ocean impression I've heard at least today. Yes, that is

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Speaker 1: what's important. I mean, it's probably the fourth or fifth

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Speaker 1: that you've heard. I truly did what. I was like,

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Speaker 1: My my son has a balloon with helium in it

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Speaker 1: because his voice is pitched up at that part. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about it, but I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: do it to his Ninja Turtles balloon. I mean you

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Speaker 1: were I couldn't and I can't sing, so I commend you.

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Speaker 1: I can't either, and slippery slope. Helium's a slippery sloped.

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Speaker 1: I have passed out more than once from helium. So wow, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just the line between the right amount and the

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Speaker 1: perfect vocal register and power on the floor. How long

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Speaker 1: have I been blacked out for? It is very thick.

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Speaker 1: This is actually an intervention memories a healing in that

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Speaker 1: it's a helium problem. Yeah, for the helium heads bad news.

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Speaker 1: It's an exhaustible resource that we're apparently running out of.

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Speaker 1: It's just like stored in a cave somewhere, I guess.

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Speaker 1: Any boy, that's we had balloons that floated on the ceiling.

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Speaker 1: Did you know the Goodyear Blimp is full of helium? Helium?

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Speaker 1: That was yeah, I assumed that they weren't with the

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Speaker 1: story of the Hindenburg, right, I think? So yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: just holding Do you think if we all just had

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Speaker 1: pass out. Of course Amory wants to take it there exactly.

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Speaker 1: You know, truf give one the Goodyear Blimp the cipher

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Speaker 1: for the good Year Blimp. Okay, I've said some weird

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Speaker 1: expectations of myself. All yeah, just how how many hits

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Speaker 1: and you guys are both in the process of Before

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Speaker 1: we started recording, you were talking about how you're both

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Speaker 1: in the process of menacing some teenagers, trying to get

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Speaker 1: some no good kids out of a park that you frequent. Yes,

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Speaker 1: was just like late night at a park being like, okay,

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Speaker 1: this is in my house. This is a great place

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Speaker 1: to be. But if they're littering, not okay, worse off

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Speaker 1: if they're cops children. So absolutely, you were just leaving

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Speaker 1: that's my brother, so let's not. She was planting flowers

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Speaker 1: not probably nice. All right, Well, we're going to get

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Speaker 1: to know you both a little bit better. But first

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Speaker 1: we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things

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Speaker 1: we're talking about today. Elon Musk apparently wants to is

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Speaker 1: in the process of building a utopian in very big

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Speaker 1: scare quotes company town. What could go wrong? We will

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Speaker 1: daylights here time, because that is apparently the most divisive

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Speaker 1: to have a good chew, not if Amory or my

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Speaker 1: wife has anything to do with it. Yeah, I'm a

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Speaker 1: chain chewer. It's a problem. Yeah. Do you have a

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Speaker 1: that's a classic cookie. Cookies don't Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.

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Speaker 1: How about you, Ben, what is something from your search history?

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Speaker 1: Usually I tease Amory about being um, kind of like

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Speaker 1: And as Amory will know, and our listeners, if they've

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Speaker 1: I had, I had two things. I'm not sure which

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Speaker 1: the latest trained derailment story, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like there's more if it's like big plane and big

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Speaker 1: I yeah, I appreciate your point on that, but this

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Speaker 1: does feel like one where, especially with like the union

425
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Speaker 1: conversations that have been happening and Biden's a big train guy.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think my theory is all that crazy.

427
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, you think it's that, you think

428
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: it's the air you think it's the airline industry lines. Yeah,

429
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: not necessarily, but you know, like they're high speed rail

430
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: in the United States would be a very good thing.

431
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Speaker 1: And when you have a lot of stories all at

432
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Speaker 1: once that are instilling a fear of train travel in people,

433
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Speaker 1: because like you said, maybe it's just that there are

434
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Speaker 1: a lot of train derailments right now. But the more

435
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: fear that is instilled, the easier it is to talk

436
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: us out of something that is actually a very good

437
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: idea for you know, society and for the planet and

438
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: the future of transportation. So Southwest Airlines, like Michael Clayton,

439
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: bad guy was out on the train track to Ohio,

440
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Speaker 1: Like right, we don't know exactly. I mean the stick

441
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Speaker 1: of butter, we kind of do that light rail between

442
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Speaker 1: Dallas and Houston, so crazy. Southwest headquarters are in Dallas,

443
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: so true. Yeah, but are they inspiring the media to

444
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: cover it? That's my point. See, I'm always like skeptical

445
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Speaker 1: of that, Like every like I feel, like, you know,

446
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: on the on the right. I always hear this like

447
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: media conspiracy stuff, and I'm like, man, do you guys,

448
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: I mean, I work at public radio. I'm like, do

449
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: you guys realize how disorganized we are? Like? This is

450
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: not nobody it has the ability to be to make

451
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: a phone call unless they're Rubert Murdoch. It talks news.

452
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: Nobody has the ability to make a phone call or

453
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: a comment that actually drives trash coverage down the chain,

454
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: at least not in my brain experience, Amory, what's something

455
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Well, this isn't going to do

456
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: anything to disprove Ben's accusations that I am an old woman,

457
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: but they're both elderly things. But I'm gonna I'm sticking

458
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: to my guns, and I'm gonna say flossing. Flossing is

459
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: highly underrated. You don't know all the shit you're missing

460
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: in your teeth until you start flossing, and then once

461
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: you start, you'll never go back because you know exactly

462
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: what's in there and what you got out. And everyone

463
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: should be flossing. So I'm sticking to it. Spicy take,

464
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: thank you. I am now flossing daily for the first

465
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Speaker 1: time in my life. Really yet to have my teeth

466
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Speaker 1: cleaning like chick follow up, like final exam. It's how

467
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Speaker 1: I'm viewing it. So I'm like, I've never had a

468
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Speaker 1: cavity in my life, and I'm like thinking that, like

469
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Speaker 1: for some reason, this is going to be like the

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Speaker 1: first time I had, Like so you get at yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get a cavity from flossing somehow. Talked to a

472
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Speaker 1: dentist who is saying that, like your mouth is constantly

473
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Speaker 1: at war between like cavities and gum disease. Like those

474
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Speaker 1: are the two things that can be going on in

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Speaker 1: your mouth, but like it's kind of one or the

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Speaker 1: other because they're like caused by like bacteria that are

477
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Speaker 1: like at war with one another. And so if you're

478
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: not a cavity person, you probably are dealing with gum

479
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Speaker 1: disease and or like vice versa. I would party in

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Speaker 1: there at the very least, like cavities, gum disease or

481
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: party Like there's a party in your mouth. Yeah, there's

482
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: a party in your mouth something Yeah your breath smell

483
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: like yeah, then how about you? What's something you think

484
00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: is underrated? The whold my nip subreddit. I really like

485
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: the hold. I know, I know what it sounds like.

486
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: The hold my Nip subreddit. And this is of course

487
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Speaker 1: something that we've discovered through making endless thread over the

488
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: years and looking at a lot of stories on Reddit,

489
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: and you know, you get into some weird subs, and

490
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: I got into this suble a while ago. Now it's

491
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: part of the constellation of cat related subreddits. And I

492
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Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard of my hold my beer,

493
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Speaker 1: of course, you know, hold my shar Oh, my man,

494
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Speaker 1: that cold, my cosmo. And so this is this is

495
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: just footage of cats high on cat nip, and it's

496
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Speaker 1: I find it to be very you know, just to

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Speaker 1: bring me a little bit of light and joy when

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling when I'm feeling gloomy. Hold my nip is good.

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00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: High animals, that's a yeah. Yeah. And I'm not pro high.

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00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm not pro getting your animals highness saahly. So I'm

501
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: not sure. I don't know. Maybe maybe folks feel weird

502
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: about katnip in general, but I will watch it on

503
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: the internet and I will enjoy it. So amazing. We

504
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: we just found out about shower Orange as a subreddit,

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Speaker 1: so this is a new Yeah, we had a whole

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Speaker 1: shower Yeah, yeah, still haven't partaken, did you guys, for

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Speaker 1: for the purposes of research, partake in the show? Yeah? Yeah, Bend.

508
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: Did I think you recorded some in the shower? Right? Wow?

509
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I still haven't tried it. I don't

510
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: know what's wrong with me. It's amazing. It lives up

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Speaker 1: to the hud. I mean, I've had a showers oil.

512
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: Citrus oil in general in your zone is a good thing,

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Speaker 1: I think, but in the shower it's even better. One

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00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: of our listeners that actually pomelo shower. Pomelos are the

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Speaker 1: the way that's or pamello. I guess that's how you

516
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: pronounced that. Anyways, it's a great fruit, right, Yes, it's

517
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: a great fruit with a lot of like puffy padding

518
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: around it. But yeah, it's like a sweeter grape fruit.

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00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: They are wonderful. All right, Let's get into a little

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00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: bit of news. Let's talk about so Elon Musk wants

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Speaker 1: to build a utopian company town in like near his

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00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: boring and SpaceX facilities in Texas. Planning to turn he

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00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: bought thousands of acres of Texas land, and I guess

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00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: is incorporating them into a town. There's a sign up

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00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: that says welcome Snailbrook, Texas established twenty twenty one, and

526
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Speaker 1: this well one of our you know, Cody Johnston, one

527
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: of our favorites, had this tweet where he was just

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00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: documenting this person speed read Dan Vibolager at Vibolager on Twitter,

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00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: who was did a long thread of who should Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk date. As a physiognomist and master matchmaker, I've identified

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Speaker 1: twelve potential sweet sweet sutresses for our chief tweeter. I've

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00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: analyzed their social media profiles and suggests Elon Musker his

533
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Speaker 1: team reach out to one of them one of these

534
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: lovely ladies promptly as just a very dark thread wherein

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00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: he ranks one of the people, fashion model Claire Jamison.

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00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: She is the youngest and the purest on this list,

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00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: eighteen years young, solid personality, and then at tenth former

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Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret model Magdalena Frank Hawiyak. She would be higher

539
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Speaker 1: up the list except she's the oldest on here at

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Speaker 1: thirty eight. Chris, Yeah, very gross. It just it feels

541
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: like there's already a cult key aspect to the the

542
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: energy around Elon Musk and company. Towns just don't have

543
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: the best history just in general anywhere you don't say yeah,

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00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: it turns out and I'm so tired, man, aren't you

545
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: guys tired? And for the rest of the episode, we're

546
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: actually just going to cut off here and go take

547
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: a nap. Becca, as a Texan, how what are you

548
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: feeling right now? Not good? But also this has been

549
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: like the downturn of Austin for so long because Austin

550
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: has become the little tech capital of the South. It

551
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: you know, has Facebook's offices over there. You got now

552
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: Twitter because of Elon, but also SpaceX and Tesla. Like

553
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: last time I was in Austin, which was in November,

554
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: I drove past the Tesla factory and I was like,

555
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: this is crazy. I've never seen anything like this before,

556
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: Like just like against the highway was huge and all

557
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: these Tesla's and I don't know, it's really poisoned. I

558
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: think the culture. I think it's soured the vibe there too,

559
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: because now you have all these tech bros coming in

560
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: with their tech money in a place that used to

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00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: be pretty affordable. To be honest, I talked to a

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Speaker 1: few of my friends that live in Austin, and they're

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00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: paying as much rent as I am. And I live

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00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: in New York City, you know, And I'm like, that

565
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: should not be the case. You should not be paying

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00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: more rent some of them than I'm paying to live

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00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: in New York City. That is baffling to me. I'm like,

568
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm never moving back to Texas for many reasons. But

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Speaker 1: if you're going to tell me I have to pay

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00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: more in rent, out of a solution for you, Becca,

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00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: because the rent is actually going to be lower than

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Speaker 1: what it is in the surrounding community for people who

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Speaker 1: work and live there, but they have to work at

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00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: Tesla or SpaceX, SpaceX or boring. Okay, SpaceX are boring.

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Speaker 1: And it's also like you you'll be able to live

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00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: in one of the residents is not the residents that

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00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: they're building. That is like just in the offing, overlooking

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00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: the whole thing that is being built specifically for him.

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00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: That is like a giant mansion, but that like literally

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00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: the layout from the town. And don't worry, Darling. Yeah,

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00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: I think, don't worry, Darling vibes, Crypto Island vibes. I

582
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: just feel like, like, here's here's what I think is

583
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: the good news from this story. Maybe is like my

584
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: friend Ted Man, who he writes for The Wall Street Journal.

585
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: He did a big sort of investigation on on boring

586
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: company and kind of that company's impact on towns that

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00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: it promised to dig tunnels for a few months back,

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00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: and like the the takeaway is like it's all bullshit, man,

589
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: Like he's just you know, like, I don't think that

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00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: this is gonna turn into like like so many Elon

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00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: Musk promises, this is gonna sort of like here in

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00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: a wisp of fart smelling smoke. You know. It's just like,

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00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: I sure that's my prediction, not knowing much about much,

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00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: but I just think every time he announces something like this,

595
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: everybody's like, is it going to happen? And it's almost

596
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: never happens. Yeah, it does seem ill fated that somebody

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00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: who wouldn't even give his Twitter employees toilet paper at

598
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: the office would now be like in control of an

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00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: entire town, suburban community. I mean there is a part

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Speaker 1: of it too that it's like I feel like Texas

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00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: is prone to cults for its like spaciousness and like

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00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: devoutism over there because I went to Baylor. Yikes, and

603
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: it's in Waco. I don't know what you're talking about

604
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: what I've never so it doesn't like I do feel

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00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: like sadly with like the weird tech broke culture that

606
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: like something could happen of this of like out of

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00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: all his you know, outlandish promises. I feel like people

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00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: will move here just to be a part of the culture.

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00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: It kind of doubles down on the thing that does

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00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: work for him, which is creating a cult around him,

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00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: create like just doubling and tripling down on the you

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00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: know belief that America has. Like I talk about how

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00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: like America it has this danger where like in the UK,

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00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: there is like the royal family where they like put

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00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: all their like self serious solemnity and like you know

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00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: belief in leadership, and you know there's almost like a

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00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: spiritual aspect to it, and that is like disconnected from

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00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: the actual person making the decisions. But in America we

619
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: like collapse all of that into the president and now

620
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Speaker 1: we have like a somebody running for president who has

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Speaker 1: a death cult around them, who what was the president

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00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: fairly recently. And I feel like Elon Musk also has

623
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: this kind of dangerous combination of just people who are

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00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: like almost spiritually devoted to him because like there's not

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00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: a lot of space for spiritual and like interpersonal connection.

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00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: Like so just like all of those things that you know,

627
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: people used to get from church and being part of

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00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: like a union or you know, being part of their

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00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: community and knowing their neighbors, like all that stuff is

630
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: getting replaced and like collapsed into like how they feel

631
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: about billionaires and shit like that. And so yeah, well

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Speaker 1: the same thing that attracts some people to him is

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Speaker 1: the thing that makes me, that tells me inside to

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Speaker 1: run away. Yeah I don't. I just yeah, the best

635
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: thing about Tesla he was not even responsible for. And

636
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: so the rest of it is is a still to

637
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: be proven concept that is coming out of this figure

638
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: that to me is so unsavory. Yeah, there's nothing me,

639
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: there's nothing pulling me towards the vision that he's trying

640
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: to build. Yeah. No, My only hope is, like I

641
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: sometimes I wonder how much of that, like we on

642
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: our show, we you know, we say about them with

643
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: this sort of connection between online communities and real life

644
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: community communities, and that's where what we're sort of looking at.

645
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: I do wonder if Elon Musk his you know, his

646
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: image is larger on the internet, if that makes any sense,

647
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: and like that's the thing that I cling to in

648
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: these moments where I'm just like, yes, yeah, I'm concerned

649
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: about all of this stuff. And I also like wonder

650
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: how much of like his sort of outsized figure is

651
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: really like not connected to real people and real problems

652
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: that they're living with and living through and working on. Yeah,

653
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe that's I mean, that does kind

654
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: of align with this Wall Street Journal article, which actually

655
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: think your friend that you had mentioned is a writer

656
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: on ted Man. Yeah. Yeah, it uh kind of goes

657
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: into detail that under Texas law, a town needs at

658
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: least two hundred and one residence before he can apply

659
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: to incorporate an approval from the county judge, and Bastrop

660
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: County hasn't received any application from mister Musk or any

661
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: of his entities, so you know. But it also says

662
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: that he's been trying to like keep this a secret

663
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: and they want to do things before anyone knows it's

664
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: really happening. So yeah, right up the gate. Yeah, I mean,

665
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: and he did do a tried to do it launch

666
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: a company town in twenty twenty one in Boca Chica

667
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: Village for SpaceX and residents of the town said that

668
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: he just like took over an existing quaint little village,

669
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,959
Speaker 1: bought up the majority of the homes, not all of them, though,

670
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: and then renamed it Star Base without asking anyone and

671
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: just announced it on Twitter. And his rocketship launch pads

672
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: have been ruining the local beaches and destroyers an ecosystem

673
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: that's been there for hundreds of years. We love modern

674
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: day colonization. Yes, all right, let's take a quick break.

675
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll talk daylight savings and chewing gum.

676
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: And we're back. And so this weekend we're set to

677
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: lose an hour thanks to daylight savings time. We've talked

678
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: before repeatedly about how dumb daylight savings time is, and

679
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, organizations such as the American Academy of Sleep

680
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: Medicine are kind of against it, but there are you know,

681
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of inertia behind it. And so

682
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 1: it's there was this moment when end Daylight Savings Time

683
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: bill like flew through Congress and we were like, well

684
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: done and dusted, because we don't pay attime or I

685
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to help how these things actually get

686
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: passed into law. Very well, now it's been swamped by

687
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: split opinions from the numbers and lobbying from sleep specialists

688
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: on the one side, and then commerce the commerce side

689
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: on the other. And oh I thought we were good.

690
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: We're not good out. Oh no, this is terrible news. Yeah.

691
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: Can you what is the actual because I feel like

692
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: we all complain about daylight saving saving or savings. I

693
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: should know this from watching VP because that the one

694
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: characters that was like savings, but now I can't remember

695
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: if he was like, no, it's singular, No, it's plural, plural, yeah,

696
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: savings time. Yeah, they they're propaganda is in the name

697
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: they gave it. There's so much. It's not just saving,

698
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: it's savings, saving things, savings daily because we all complain

699
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: about it. But when we get that extra hour of

700
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: sleep or when we go from it, you know, getting

701
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: a little more light in the morning, yeah, it's kind

702
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: of pleasant. No, Yeah, so I mean the I think

703
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: the thing that most people like, permanent daylight savings would

704
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: give you more daylight in the in the morning, I think,

705
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: or longer days. I forget which one it is, but

706
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: I think I think it's just like the studies have

707
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: been that it's just bad for us to change our clock,

708
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: like our internal clock, Like our internal clock is not

709
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: on board with regulators. You know, it's it's not paying

710
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 1: attention to that stuff. And so there are more car

711
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: accidents in the immediate aftermath of daylight savings, and you know,

712
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 1: the clock going back the other direction. It's really bad

713
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: for teenagers like who really need a lot of sleep,

714
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: and like the school system is not built to give

715
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: them a lot of sleep. And so so now like

716
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: not only is there there's the lobby of keep it

717
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: the way it is, there's the lobby of like we

718
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: need to make daylight savings permanent, and then there's the

719
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: lobby of like we need to keep like do the

720
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: other like make standard time permanent. And there are fine

721
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: reasons on all sides, I guess, but I think I'm

722
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: pro daylight, like making daylight savings permanent and just like

723
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: moving on with it because it does feel like there's

724
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: just a lot of negative impacts that happen when you

725
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: change the clock on people and their body has to

726
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: like catch up, and just like making that a regular thing.

727
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: So when we spring forward, you want us to stay

728
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: that way? Is that right? Yeah? I think that's right. Okay,

729
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: that does keep the day longer, right, because that means

730
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: sunset is setting an hour later than in normally would

731
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: because we ate an hour. Yeah. Its like in the

732
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: fall when you fall back, you're losing an hour. Yes,

733
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean you're gaining an hour, You're an hour sunlight,

734
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: that's right. I mean, yeah, in the morning or the afternoon,

735
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: I can't I can't even remember which. I don't think

736
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: my clocks have been. It's five pm, but your clock

737
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: says four pm, so you're dark and it's dark and

738
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: you're sad. Yeah, but in the spring, your clocks is

739
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: four pm. But now it's surprised it's five pm and

740
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: it's still light. Yes, okay, Yeah, I feel like it's

741
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: like I always think of it as like the summer,

742
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: the summer part of the calendar, that's the good times,

743
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: and then in the winter that's like the weird times

744
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: where we change in order to fix something. Yeah, That's

745
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: how I've always thought about it. And I also just

746
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: feel like we should be you know, we used to

747
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: all like kind of do the same things at the

748
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: same time because it was more connected to nature, and

749
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 1: now that like we're all like staring at our blue

750
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: screens into the late into the night, et cetera, et cetera.

751
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: We struggle with this stuff and I feel like, yeah,

752
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: just I don't know, keep keep it natty. Is that

753
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: a thing to say? I don't know. Y. Yeah, we'll

754
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: add a fourth group to it. Yeah, where's Yeah, if

755
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: we just abolished clocks and we all just did what

756
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: we wanted into the void, how about that time as

757
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: a construct. It's tough because I tend to instinctively not

758
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: want to be on the same side as the golf

759
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: course lobby, but powerful, powerful groups are like the golf

760
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: course lobby wants permanent daylight time because it would bring

761
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: in up to ten percent additional revenue. I just want

762
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: them to make up their mind, listen to the sleep scientists,

763
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: and do do what they tell them too, so that

764
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: people are like have have better quality of life as

765
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: opposed to like whatever business interests are. Yeah, I would

766
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: personally love to not have to switch a clock again,

767
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: just because I think my kitchen clocks I never change them.

768
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: They're still off. I'm telling you what's going on over there.

769
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: If the clock doesn't automatically switch is not going to change. Sorry,

770
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: you just avoid that room. You're like, yeah, I'm unlike

771
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: away time forever. I'm like, I must keep my phone

772
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: near me because I don't know what time it is

773
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: on that clock. So and then chewing gum just a

774
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: concerning report for those of us who enjoy a nice

775
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: chew that, you know, while other candy is improving following

776
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: the pandemic, gum is still eight point eight percent below

777
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: sales numbers in twenty nineteen. And gum took just like

778
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: a massive hit during the pandemic due to its they

779
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: they said, due to its social nature, which made me

780
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: think of like a bunch of friends just sitting around.

781
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm like handing each other pieces of gum and just

782
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: like I'm like pointing at their jaw. You guys want

783
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: to choose some gum tonight, let's choose. I'm thinking, if

784
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: you remember all the gum commercials from I don't know,

785
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: the early aughts, they it's like all about you can

786
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: sing you the double mine that there's a lot of

787
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: a lot of the gum commercials that are like, oh

788
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: my god, they're about to share their first kiss. I

789
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: remember that one very distinctly. I remember what the brand was,

790
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: but it was like this boy and this girl and

791
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: like the note or like the gum rapper tune into

792
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: like love notes and then they like finally share their

793
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: like first kiss. Yeah, so I'm sure that was what

794
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: I was thinking. Here's a weird question, though, like when

795
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: when was the last time anyone here kissed someone else

796
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: with gum in their mouth and gum and the other

797
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: person's mouth. No, no, you just prepare with the gum. Yeah, yeah,

798
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 1: but then you got like spin it out. That's true.

799
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 1: That is like a weird thing that I remember doing that. Actually,

800
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like it's Yeah, I was

801
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: like you said, I feel like it's a mistake you

802
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: learn in high school when you're first starting to learn

803
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: to kiss, Like like, yes, I hold up one finger

804
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 1: put in a piece of gum, yeah, exactly for about

805
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: three to four minutes, and then my wife and I

806
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 1: have a nice kiss on a babe. But yeah, I don't,

807
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: I don't know that, like it just it seems like

808
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: we're so The theories on why gum chewing was down

809
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: were people were wearing masks and so they were the

810
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: only ones having to experience their own breath. I would

811
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: always put in a piece of gum when I was

812
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: wearing a mask. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's

813
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: like I choose. Well, first of all, it does move

814
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: your mask around a little more. It does get a

815
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: little fog gear in there, so that's a problem. But

816
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: but like I chew gum for me. I've never chew

817
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: gum for the benefit of other people. I'm sorry, Like

818
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: it's not to make my breath fresher for you. It's

819
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: like I want a fresher situation or I enjoy the

820
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: act of chewing gum. So yeah, do it for you, man,

821
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: that's right, Sam a mint Gurley, I do love a mint.

822
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm all about. Yeah, it just needs something going on. Yeah,

823
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: I to be frank, I love them. They're like edibles.

824
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: They're like mint edibles, like we know. That's because they

825
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: they're like relaxing. Like sometimes I don't know, I have

826
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: too much coffee. I tend to be like you know,

827
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: so if I if sometimes I'm out and I'm like

828
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, at an event or something, and I need

829
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: just like a little bit of calmness, and it's two

830
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: for one. I'm getting a fresh breath and you know,

831
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 1: I'm a little and it's like the point like it's

832
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: like five milligrams like such low dosage and it's just

833
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: like truly just like a calming feeling, like you don't

834
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: feel high, it's not too much. And I also learned

835
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: that you digest differently by dissolvable versus by like a gummy,

836
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: and so it's a more like baseline like feeling versus

837
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: like a gummy can be very volatile and how it

838
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: reacts because it has to go through your metabolism first

839
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: to dissolve, so it kind of can be very like, oh,

840
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: you're really high or you're not high at all, whereas

841
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: like a mint, you can kind of get the same

842
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: feeling every time. Yeah, you know, after after listening to that,

843
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: I feel like like a fear and loathing in Las

844
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,479
Speaker 1: Vegas if they had, like you know, some of those

845
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: in the suitcase full of drugs, like they would have

846
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Speaker 1: a better time. Yes, Like I'm you sold me, I'm in. Yeah,

847
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Speaker 1: I love it. Last time I was in Portland, I

848
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: bought some and they were like so good. Yeah, I

849
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: don't know that it's I am. I will go into

850
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Speaker 1: a gas station and buy the whole box of the

851
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: type of Trident gum that I like because it's hard

852
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: to find. And so when I a Trident man, I

853
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: am a Trident man. Have some blue peppermint Trident, which

854
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: is my second favorite flavor of pineapple. Twist is weirdly

855
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: my favorite. It just has a nice it lasts a

856
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: long time. And you know what, I forgot a very

857
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: important brand of gum that I did love, not just

858
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: the hard case but the Mentos. M hmm, what's the

859
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: like red lime? Mentos red Lime. That fruity gum is great.

860
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,479
Speaker 1: So if you like the Trident fruity, maybe maybe treat

861
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: yourself sometime to Mentos red Lime. There's also the story

862
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: was upsetting to me because there's all they were like,

863
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: they're also facing competition from natural gum brands because those

864
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: brands aren't full of micro plastics, which I was like, No,

865
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: have a bunch of those pe fasts forever chemicals. To me,

866
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: what this is implying And that's not great. So yeah, anyways,

867
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: bad news for cheers out there, bad news for big gum.

868
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: But maybe maybe an alternative future where I think these

869
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: gums are made of the core ingredient chickle, which is

870
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: like how we got to gum in the first place. Yeah, chicklets, Yeah,

871
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: there you go. I used to love chicklets. Oh my god.

872
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: I love of chicklets growing up. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't

873
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: seen a chicklet in him in a chick lit minute.

874
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: Those lose their flavor. Three choose in like you how

875
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: we feel about Trident though. That's why I'm shocked that

876
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: you're a Trident man. Oh I feel like Trident has

877
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: the best lasting of like some trident that the cinnamon doesn't.

878
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: Doesn't work that way. But okay, yeah, fun fact we

879
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: only go into the office one day a week these

880
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: days in post well we're not post pandemic, but you

881
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean in these yeah, weird times they are.

882
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: And most of what was on our desks before the

883
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: pandemic was gone. But something that survived was a post

884
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: it that I had left on Ben's desk because he

885
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: was chewing Trident gum and I left him this note

886
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: I'd gotten him like a pack of I don't know,

887
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: orbit or something else, and I said, this is because

888
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: Trident sucks and you deserve better gum. So better Ben. Yeah, yeah,

889
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: so Jack, I'm going to say the same to you. Wow.

890
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to again, not trying to yuck. You're yum,

891
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: but I do think they are. You should explore the

892
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: horizons even more with gum get those sales up for us.

893
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: I think those trining commercials were was like if you

894
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: can't brush true Trident really and do you remember those?

895
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: Those are like early nineties. They were like dentists say,

896
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: Trident is basically the same as brushing dentists. Yes, And

897
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: I think that I printed on me pretty strongly because yeah,

898
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm still brand loyal to try to. I really want

899
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: to know what your dentist says. Will you let us know,

900
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: Let's see how flossing is going and Trident is going.

901
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: I just I want to know if they say to you.

902
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: I want to know, like if they say to you Jack,

903
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: like you really need to flosphore, because then we'll know

904
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: it's bullshit, you know, Yeah, that's right, and I'll need

905
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: a new I'll need a new underrated. That's well, Ben Amory,

906
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: it's such a pleasure having you both. Where can people

907
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: find you? Here? You guys all that good stuff. Usually

908
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm in the kitchen making making snacks for myself and

909
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: my kids. The show is called Endless Thread and you

910
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: can find it wherever you listen to this podcast. You

911
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: and I'm at the brock Johnson on Twitter because I'm

912
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: trying to I'm trying to write on the coach cotails

913
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: of Dwayne the Rock Johnson, our next president right then

914
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: the Brock Johnson. Yes, I'm at Amrie Music A m

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Speaker 1: O R Y music all one word and the show

916
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 1: is at Endless underscore thread and we have a pretty

917
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: active subreddit which is endless thread dot reddit dot com.

918
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,959
Speaker 1: There you go, And is there a tweet or work

919
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: of media that you guys have been enjoying. I just

920
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: like Atlanta. All of Atlanta, I feel like, is the

921
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: thing that I just keep coming back to, Like it

922
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: makes me sad that it's over, but like, also, they

923
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: did so much cool shit on that show, and it's

924
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: just like if I'm talking to somebody about things that

925
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm consuming, I know it's old news, but like I

926
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: just I kind of feel like that show. I hope

927
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: that that show taught me things, and I feel like

928
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: that show showed them. I just think it's a great

929
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: example of like what television can be when it's weird

930
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: and might it gets super weird and I just love

931
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: that show and that's I don't know, I feel like

932
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: for me, that's yeah, that's it. How about you? Amor.

933
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: We did an episode about this, but Goosebumps now exists

934
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: as a musical and it's pretty delightful. And I'm on

935
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: a not so secret campaign to give Goosebumps the Musical

936
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: the stage that it deserves so much so that we

937
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: did this episode obviously, but we also have a change

938
00:56:54,760 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: dot org petition to help get Goosebumps the Musical to Broadway.

939
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: I think if you, just if you need a little

940
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: spooky delight, fire up the goose Bumps the Musical soundtrack

941
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: on wherever you listen to those kinds of things and

942
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: and treat yourself, and then listen to our episode about

943
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: Goosebumps the Musical featuring R. L Stein himself, Wow, singing

944
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: the whole time, right he does. He does make a

945
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: cameo on the soundtrack for the music. Wow. You talked

946
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: to us about it that we did a whole bonus

947
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: episode just with him because he was a real delight

948
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: And there's a there's a tie in between goose Bumps

949
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 1: the Musical and the song Escape aka the Penia Colada song.

950
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I won't say more than that, but yeah,

951
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: I have to check it out. It's a real silly

952
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: treat maybe the least haunting song of all, but I

953
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: love that song that they went with that one super

954
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: producer Becca, so wonderful coming in last second and like

955
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 1: it was meant to be, like it was the plan

956
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: all along. Wonderful having you this co host. Where can

957
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you? And is there a work

958
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Yes, you can find me and

959
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: follow me at Beck's ramos b eccs R A M

960
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: was on all platforms. And my piece of media is

961
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: this tweet from Lucas Battle Luk a s Battle on Twitter.

962
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: But also I actually originally saw his TikTok on this

963
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: which was a lot funnier than the standalone tweet. But

964
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: it's a screenshot of Cole Sprouse with a cigarette in

965
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: his hand from the Call Your Daddy podcast where he

966
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: was absolutely fucking insufferable. I did not watch the whole

967
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: thing because like I simply could not, but the clips

968
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: of him on the podcast keep going viral for like

969
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: literally him being a venomous, horrible piece person on this planet.

970
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, all my girlfriends of cheat on me emotionally,

971
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, after you like literally emotionally abuse

972
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: them and cheated on them. But you know the whole thing,

973
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: contact me if you want to get into it. But

974
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: it's the screenshot of him holding the cigarette looking like

975
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: such a pompous art asshole, and he's like the and

976
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: it goes me ordering an almond croissant, and then all

977
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: the seats under it are like these dougiast things when

978
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: you go to duncan and pronounce its So could get

979
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: a sandwich please with my kolata? And I was at

980
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: a coffee shop the other day and someone did come

981
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: and being like, yeah, can I have a song? And

982
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: I was like, we're in a coffee shop in bed style,

983
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: let's not do this today. All of the catchiers are

984
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: like all right, Cols Brosse. Of course for other elderly

985
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: listeners like myself is played Jugead on Riverdale and oh yes,

986
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: he's a Disney kid the Twins that Cody also like

987
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: the Twins from what's the Adam Standler movie? You know?

988
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: So no, I'm not familiar with uh. He was like

989
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: the Little Boy and the Adams. Gosh, I don't know,

990
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, if you know you know big down? Yes, okay,

991
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's the kids. I don't remember if there's

992
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: two of them, or they just played them interchangeably like

993
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: Mary Kaid Ashley full House style. But it's been a while,

994
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, they've been child stars forever. It's been notorious

995
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: in the industry that Cole Sprouse is a nightmare to

996
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: work with and is just like kind of an insufferable person.

997
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: They have. They made their names known when they were

998
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: at NYU, and they were difficult people, both him and Dylan.

999
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: But I guess it's been like this opposite thing where

1000
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: people are like Dylan's lovely or he's like fine enough

1001
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: for someone who grew up in the industry, and Cole

1002
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: is awful. So who knows. I've not worked with either,

1003
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: so don't cover me. I'm just reading the Dumoi haa

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01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: goss amazing. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore.

1005
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: O'Brien tweet I enjoyed, please be gneiss Nice tweeted remembering

1006
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: this on International Women's Day, and it is an exchange

1007
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: from I guess twenty twenty one, where Alexis geez All tweeted,

1008
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: oh you're a feminist name every woman and Eric Priesca

1009
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: tweeted Whitney Houston, which got me and I'm every Woman,

1010
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: and I feel like I had to pass that on

1011
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: like it followed this. Yeah, you can find us on

1012
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

1013
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page on a website, Daily

1014
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: zeitgeist dot com where we post our episodes and our

1015
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: foot notes where we link off to the information that

1016
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as a

1017
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer justin

1018
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: what is the song that you think people might enjoy?

1019
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: Seeing as how it's Friday for listeners, I figured I'd

1020
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: leave y'all with a banger. I've been on a bit

1021
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: of a Brazilian funk kick lately and this song has

1022
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: a bit of that with the UK trap twist to it.

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01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: As it is produced by Troy Boy and artist I

1024
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: recommended a while ago. This song is fun and bouncy.

1025
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: It has the high I pitched Luke going on in

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01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: it and a lot of energy. So this is ning

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01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: game Door May by Troy Boy mc land and trop Killers.

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01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: Do not at me on the pronunciation, as I do

1029
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: not speak Brazilian Portuguese. Once again, well you can find

1030
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: that in the footnotes The Daily Zeite Guys is a

1031
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. From more podcasts from my heart Radio,

1032
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you're listening

1033
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: your favorite shows. That is going to do it for

1034
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: us this morning, back this afternoon to tell you what

1035
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: is trending and we will talk to you all then.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye