Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
Speaker 1: I'm your host coleeen Witt, and today we have very
Speaker 1: special guests. Actor comedian while now crossan Novah Bobby J.
Speaker 1: And rapper Bobby J. Thompson is in the building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we in here. What's handy.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to have you. As I mentioned, like,
Speaker 1: we've definitely crossed paths in the past, so it's nice
Speaker 1: to have you. Y.
Speaker 2: Please fed me.
Speaker 1: I love when guests come on the show and they
Speaker 1: feed me, but I'm always nervous about what you're gonna
Speaker 1: feed me. Yeah, so why don't you go ahead and
Speaker 1: tell me what you're about to cook me up?
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm gonna keep you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: real simple, old fashion you know what I mean, A
Speaker 2: good old bacon sandwich, you know what I'm saying. I've
Speaker 2: never been a real big egg fan like I've always
Speaker 2: but I like bacon and bread like it's always been
Speaker 2: my thing, the meat and the bread. Pause.
Speaker 1: And there's no like condiments.
Speaker 2: No, Nope, I've never because it's like, what do you
Speaker 2: put on a sandwich? Like catch up with bacon? No
Speaker 2: hot sauce, hot sauce, but it just depends on how
Speaker 2: I'm feeling. That was more so before I stopped eating pork.
Speaker 2: So the hot sauce with the pork bacon was like
Speaker 2: fire turkey bacon. Hot sauce not so much, but just
Speaker 2: the bread, the flavor of the turkey bacon. It was
Speaker 2: just enough for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you go ahead and start cooking it up,
Speaker 1: and while you cooking it up, you gotta take me back. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, this is electric. I know some of
Speaker 1: a lot of people are used to cooking on.
Speaker 2: All type of stuff. I haven't been through all types
Speaker 2: of walks of life, hot plates, all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you you started very young in the industry.
Speaker 1: C yeah, yeah, So I'm curious what the heck was
Speaker 1: going on when you was the in bacon and bread.
Speaker 2: So what it was is, I'm gonna tell you the
Speaker 2: crazy part about it. Right. So for me, I wasn't
Speaker 2: so much. I wasn't like fifty rich, but I wasn't
Speaker 2: like flat broke. But my mama didn't want me, didn't
Speaker 2: want money to raise me. So I didn't know that
Speaker 2: I really that I was a kid with money, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like I had came from mama
Speaker 2: working two jobs. Sometimes every man for himself, make it
Speaker 2: do what he did. That was one of my mamas saying,
Speaker 2: every man for himself that night. I ain't cooking shit
Speaker 2: figured out, you know what I'm saying. So with me, Like,
Speaker 2: I've never been big on vegetables, never been big on
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, a lot of different shit.
Speaker 2: I've always been god damn meating potatoes or like you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, meating bread type of nigga.
Speaker 1: Now are you still like that? You still don't eat
Speaker 1: a lot of edgies?
Speaker 2: No, And my mama tell me all the time, like, boy,
Speaker 2: you're getting older, you better start eating vegetables. Is you're
Speaker 2: gonna pay for it. And I'm hard headed, hard headed
Speaker 2: as hell. I am very much hard headed, But sometimes
Speaker 2: I eat vegetables, especially now like I got kids now,
Speaker 2: so like I gotta kind of try to eat vegetables
Speaker 2: because if I don't, then my son gonna be like, well, Daddy,
Speaker 2: you don't eat vegetables. Yeah, so I gotta try to,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, be a good example for
Speaker 2: the children. But I'm really not a big vegetable fan.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not even gonna lie to you like, I'm
Speaker 2: a nigga that's gonna eat steak and mashed potatoes and
Speaker 2: two pieces of broccoli, and I feel like that's a
Speaker 2: good helping for me. I just I don't know why either,
Speaker 2: because vegetables don't taste bad. I just don't fucking like them.
Speaker 2: I don't know why bro Like, I'm just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm a carnivore. I don't want no damn grass.
Speaker 1: So I guess vegan's not in your your forete.
Speaker 2: Oh hell no, not a chance. I could never do.
Speaker 2: I commend the ones that are vegan, but me, I
Speaker 2: could never be vegan. I like burgers and steaks and
Speaker 2: chicken wings and shit like that, and I don't think
Speaker 2: no substitution can taste I'm not gonna lie. At one
Speaker 2: time in Atlanta had some slutty vegan and that burger
Speaker 2: was damn good.
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to try.
Speaker 2: It was damn good. I could taste where it wasn't
Speaker 2: real ground. However, it wasn't bad. It was like it
Speaker 2: still tastes good as fuck. Like if somebody would have
Speaker 2: gave it to me without telling me it was slutty vegan,
Speaker 2: they probably would have got over on me. But because
Speaker 2: of the fact I knew that it was slutty vegan,
Speaker 2: I feel like my taste bud was looking for the inconsistencies,
Speaker 2: the non ground beef tasting shit.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I'm like you in the sense that
Speaker 1: I like meat, but uh in La, they do vegan
Speaker 1: so well that like my guilty pleasure is vegan food.
Speaker 1: Like if you like Colleen, where do you want to
Speaker 1: go eat? I'm like sushi or vegan.
Speaker 2: I can't get jiggy with sushi. I just can't for
Speaker 2: some reason.
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I'm just such a nigga. I feel like it just
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense for me to eat sushi. I'm just
Speaker 2: like bro, I'm just the nigga.
Speaker 1: But if you eat sushi with like people in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: they get the little pieces of fish.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 1: If you come with me, just hang with me one time, like.
Speaker 2: My fish dead and fried Christ.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I agree with that, But I'm telling
Speaker 1: you I order food where it's like I ordered the eel.
Speaker 1: I always I love smoked eel, so it's not really wrong.
Speaker 2: I've never even heard that.
Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to beg you, but let me
Speaker 1: just let me show you how sushi's done one time.
Speaker 2: I'm with it. I like trying new stuff, but it
Speaker 2: just it takes. It takes someone to be like, come on,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm going to try new stuff on
Speaker 2: my own, like I like it. I'm not that nigga
Speaker 2: gonna be riding on streaming like you know what sushi
Speaker 2: restaurant go try? It has to be with somebody like, nah,
Speaker 2: come here, this is what you get.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna order it for you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like, and we're good. You know what I mean? I
Speaker 2: will definitely.
Speaker 1: Well, so you started in acting, Like what was your
Speaker 1: first big thing? My first and how old were you?
Speaker 2: I was about six years old. I want to say.
Speaker 2: My first film was My Baby's Daddy with Eddie Griffin,
Speaker 2: Anthony Anderson and Michael Imperial. That was my first film.
Speaker 2: I played a kind of small role in it. I
Speaker 2: played like Eddie Griffin's baby, Mama's little brother. And what's
Speaker 2: crazy is for me like acting was never really in
Speaker 2: the cards for me, Like I alway thought I was
Speaker 2: would be a rapper, like I just always I've always
Speaker 2: had a love for music. I've always rapped, Like I
Speaker 2: got my start on the Apollo rapping. So when the
Speaker 2: acting thing kind of kicked off, it was new to me,
Speaker 2: but it was fun, you know what I mean? I
Speaker 2: found I found fun in it, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: this is something I could do, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So from there, I did Tracy Morgan Show, which was
Speaker 2: an NBC television show sitcom on NBC, and that was
Speaker 2: probably like my first like big thing where I'm a
Speaker 2: series regular. I'm in every episode and you know, I'm
Speaker 2: kind of making my mark in Hollywood, I would say,
Speaker 2: because you know what I mean? That was like me,
Speaker 2: that's where I kind of made my name. Man, Like
Speaker 2: people would tell me I stole the show like that
Speaker 2: was like it was talks for me to do a
Speaker 2: spinoff on me, but it was like, well, what do
Speaker 2: we do? We do a spinoff on a fucking five
Speaker 2: year old six six, seven year old without appearance like
Speaker 2: what happens to live with his grandma? Like is he
Speaker 2: a troubled seven year old all of a sudden? Like
Speaker 2: so obviously didn't pan out, but yeah, like I think
Speaker 2: that's when I realized, like I'm good at that shit.
Speaker 1: So your mom kind of introduced you to it? Did
Speaker 1: you come from a single.
Speaker 2: I came from a single parent household by way of
Speaker 2: my daddy being incarcerated, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, my daddy made his presence felt
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, And that's when they I
Speaker 2: always commend my dad for God rest his soul. Like
Speaker 2: no matter what prison I got, Christmas gift, Birthday gifts,
Speaker 2: calls all time, all the time, Like I never if
Speaker 2: nobody told me that my daddy was in jail. I
Speaker 2: just thought, like, my daddy is in Kansas City. I'm
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles chasing this dream right now. But I
Speaker 2: like if I would have never been told, like your
Speaker 2: dad's incarcerated, Like my mom was never really wanted to
Speaker 2: hide nothing from me and my little sister, Like she
Speaker 2: was very open with telling us, I mean everything on
Speaker 2: a need to know basis for the most part, like
Speaker 2: she she felt like that was something we needed to know.
Speaker 2: And you know what I mean, this is what's going on.
Speaker 2: But it's all right. That don't mean your daddy not gonna,
Speaker 2: don't love you, don't want to be in life. If
Speaker 2: he's dealing with something right now, and you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, He'll be there when he can. But you know,
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like I said, my daddy did get
Speaker 2: the best to make his presence felt from prison, and
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, my mama was amazing, Like
Speaker 2: she was amazing and everything, being the in home parent
Speaker 2: of mama and dad, you know what I mean, even though,
Speaker 2: like I said, my dad wasn't absent, he just was incarcerated,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But so I guess I
Speaker 2: could say I had a single parent household, but not really,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because I did have both parents.
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, like it just was one of them
Speaker 2: things where it was like my neighbor I used to
Speaker 2: my mom used to work two jobs. She would come home,
Speaker 2: she would be tired. And obviously I'm a kid with energy.
Speaker 2: I want to go outside, I want to play. I
Speaker 2: come from the era of playing outside. We had no
Speaker 2: fucking iPads and dig yeah. Yeah the first we had
Speaker 2: the big booty computers when I was a kid, like
Speaker 2: the motherfucker that with the big back on the bay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, rich to have one of those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my brother, we want to Rich. My brother stole
Speaker 2: the parts and put it together. Long line of criminal
Speaker 2: activity in my life is line to you. So yeah,
Speaker 2: so my neighbors man I used to go outside and
Speaker 2: play with my neighbors all the time, and I would
Speaker 2: always find myself kind of putting on the show for them,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, whether I'm just rapping, I'm
Speaker 2: just entertaining. I might be imitating my local pastor, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like that's I and from there,
Speaker 2: like a lady by the name of Cynthia, who was
Speaker 2: my neighbor. She was like one of the first people
Speaker 2: to kind of see in me, what you I mean,
Speaker 2: what other seeing in me later on down the line,
Speaker 2: because every day after school, I would be outside with
Speaker 2: her and her kids, and I would just be entertaining
Speaker 2: the shit out of them. Like and it's crazy, because
Speaker 2: I was so young, I can't really quite remember everything
Speaker 2: that I was doing, but I can remember. I have
Speaker 2: glimpses of, like I said, me imitating my pastor me
Speaker 2: rapping whatever rap song. Like I said, at this time,
Speaker 2: I'm nothing about I'm not even in school. I'm like
Speaker 2: coming on from daycare. I'm about four years old, maybe
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like I'm not even in
Speaker 2: preschool yet. So I was advanced, like to know these
Speaker 2: rap songs and to be able to, you know, me
Speaker 2: catch on to them and rap them word for word,
Speaker 2: Like I was four years old and I knew Little
Speaker 2: Wayne the block is Hot from start to finish, like
Speaker 2: couldn't like for one, like, Nigga, how do you even
Speaker 2: how are you catching on of these words at four
Speaker 2: years old?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: And Miss Cinthy used to always tell my mama like,
Speaker 2: he's special, like you need to get him into some dinner.
Speaker 2: It's something you need to put him into something, he's special.
Speaker 2: When my mama don't see it. My mama's wrestling and
Speaker 2: working and you know what I mean, and her my
Speaker 2: time with Miss Cinthy is her kind of rest time
Speaker 2: when I come in the House of Time where to
Speaker 2: prepare dinner, get us ready for the next day, get
Speaker 2: her ready for her next workday. So she didn't really
Speaker 2: see it often. It wasn't until one day we was
Speaker 2: riding the car and the Block Is Hot came on
Speaker 2: the radio and I wrapped that motherfucker from start to finish,
Speaker 2: And my mama looked back and was she was like nigga,
Speaker 2: like surprised, like what the fuck? Like, cause, for one,
Speaker 2: it was crazy because my mama didn't play rap music
Speaker 2: in her car. My MoMA played strictly gospel music. So
Speaker 2: once she was like, where the fuck did you hear
Speaker 2: this at? And how are you hearing it enough to
Speaker 2: be able to notice shit from start to finish like that,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it caught her by surprise,
Speaker 2: and I think from there that's what she knew, Like, Okay,
Speaker 2: what these people are telling me about my son is true,
Speaker 2: Like he's special, like she's you know, he's just a
Speaker 2: kid with energy. He I mean, he's just a kid,
Speaker 2: dude energy, and he's you know, I mean, y'all entertained
Speaker 2: because he's not y'all kid, you know what I meaning.
Speaker 2: So everybody's more entertained by other people kids than they own.
Speaker 2: That's just natural, especially as a parent. Now I get
Speaker 2: it now, Like my son, dudes, I'm like Nigga, you bad.
Speaker 2: Other people like man, he's hilarious, he's funny, he's smart
Speaker 2: as hell. I'm like, man, I do bad. So it's
Speaker 2: just a difference. So with that, like after she seen
Speaker 2: me or heard me rap that song, she kind of
Speaker 2: took heed of what people were saying. And it just
Speaker 2: so happened that the Apollo Theater was holding auditions in
Speaker 2: my city. At the time, so they held an audition
Speaker 2: at our local mall. I won the audition to go
Speaker 2: represent Kansas City in New York, and from there, like
Speaker 2: I said, it just took off. Like I said, from
Speaker 2: they went Tracy from Ner went My Baby's Daddy, Tracy
Speaker 2: Morgan Show. But like in between, I did all the
Speaker 2: crazy talk shows, Sally Ricky Lake, Jenny Jones, like all
Speaker 2: the talk shows that motherfucker's my age don't even remember existing.
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't even remember it existing if I wasn't
Speaker 2: known the motherfucker, you know what I'm saying. Like, so
Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy to be like the nostalgia that
Speaker 2: like all the things I've done, like leading up to
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, where I got to and
Speaker 2: where I am now, Like kind of crazy, But it
Speaker 2: was it's dope to see like like my mama actually
Speaker 2: believed in me, you know what I mean. Like it
Speaker 2: started with my mama like she was like, oh no,
Speaker 2: but once she's seen it for herself, she believed in me.
Speaker 2: My mama had a career, she was a she was
Speaker 2: a a r n she was a registered nurse. And
Speaker 2: there's not it's not no bad job. There's not no
Speaker 2: dead end job to where it's like, that's just a
Speaker 2: job you throw away to go chase a pipe dream
Speaker 2: and move to l a like.
Speaker 1: And she did that.
Speaker 2: She did that for me.
Speaker 1: How old were you at the time I was?
Speaker 2: I was I was about six or seven years old
Speaker 2: at the time. I was young as hell. And the
Speaker 2: people told her Kansas City, Missouri.
Speaker 1: That's a big feat hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she packed up and the people told her, if
Speaker 2: you leave, you can't come back.
Speaker 1: What was the conversation between if you can recollect? Like,
Speaker 1: what was the conversation between you and her at that age?
Speaker 2: Like, I just remember telling my mam, I'm gonna make
Speaker 2: you richie. You don't never have to work no more.
Speaker 1: At five or six, That's all I remember.
Speaker 2: But that was the only thing that was said. And
Speaker 2: like I said, my mama was still to this day,
Speaker 2: she's she's deep in church christian She looked, she she
Speaker 2: she she started to say something to me like boy,
Speaker 2: and then she caught herself and looked and said, God,
Speaker 2: I received it. And from there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: She she took the necessary steps to make that that
Speaker 2: dream and what that what I said to her, She
Speaker 2: took a step to make that reality, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So like without my mama like believing and
Speaker 2: really you know what I mean, giving up what she
Speaker 2: what she was doing as far as working, and you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, making things happen like that, nothing
Speaker 2: nothing goes, nothing shakes for me. Like like I said,
Speaker 2: my mama was belief in me and belief in you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, the fact that God put an anointing
Speaker 2: on me at a young age to do something specially
Speaker 2: like I said, I come from a long line of
Speaker 2: all my mama's sons feelings like I come from.
Speaker 1: Fuck, how many siblings do you?
Speaker 2: I got four brothers, the youngest. I'm the youngest boy.
Speaker 1: You got eight?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not all my mama. My mama got five
Speaker 2: of them. Though. My mama got four boys with me included.
Speaker 2: And then I got a little sister, so I'm the
Speaker 2: second to youngest period.
Speaker 1: So she moved the entire family.
Speaker 2: No, because my older my older brother is ten years
Speaker 2: older than me, twelve years older than me, fifteen years
Speaker 2: older than me, so it was a large gap. So
Speaker 2: by the time my career started, one of my brothers
Speaker 2: was doing a ten year bid. The other two was
Speaker 2: knee deep in the streets and she it wasn't no,
Speaker 2: it wasn't no, rilling them back in at the time
Speaker 2: they had made their decisions to be and I said,
Speaker 2: they jump up to the porch young, my brother jump
Speaker 2: up to porch thirteen fourteen. I said, at fifteen, my
Speaker 2: brother called his first case and got sented to ten years.
Speaker 2: So my oldest brother, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: from there, So do.
Speaker 1: You think also in her decision was like she had already.
Speaker 2: Wanted something different. She was like, if I want something different,
Speaker 2: I have to kind of help him see something different
Speaker 2: because naturally I'm gonna want to be like my big
Speaker 2: brothers run behind my big brothers.
Speaker 1: That kind of similar to what kind of happened with
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart and his brother, Like I don't know if
Speaker 1: you heard one of his own Like mom was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: Like you came because of what? Yeah, because of that,
Speaker 2: And you.
Speaker 1: Think that's kind of like what your mom was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna roll the dice on Bobby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Like she she took heed to what was
Speaker 2: going on and she said, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna do something different, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? And show him something different and give him
Speaker 2: a chance at being something different. Now, I did still
Speaker 2: fuck up, just like my brothers. But that was my
Speaker 2: own decision. That wasn't no situation like. That was me
Speaker 2: just making dumb decisions down the line when I got older,
Speaker 2: getting too big for my bridges in a sense, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But my mama did everything she
Speaker 2: could to steer me in a whole different direction.
Speaker 1: Okay, so then now you're doing your acting thing. You
Speaker 1: you land this big gig at six Yeah, now you
Speaker 1: move before you land the gig. Correct.
Speaker 3: We moved?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I want to say we moved to La.
Speaker 2: We was like looking for places in La shortly. No,
Speaker 2: I was while I was auditioning. That's when I was
Speaker 2: audition for the Tracy Morgan Show. We were staying at
Speaker 2: a little motel called the night In Still there right
Speaker 2: there on the Vinuenta. I want to say, that is
Speaker 2: really right right by Universal Studios, Like we're staying right
Speaker 2: there by the subway, by that place where people take
Speaker 2: all the everybody take their head shots, like and in
Speaker 2: the midst of us staying there. I had an audition
Speaker 2: for Tracy Morgan Show, and I booked it. So from there,
Speaker 2: but my mama had already lost her job because I
Speaker 2: did a movie called Full Clip in Los Angeles. Matter
Speaker 2: of fact, that's what I was in LA for when
Speaker 2: I audition for Tracy Morgan Show. And once we finished filming,
Speaker 2: I stayed a little longer to do some auditions and
Speaker 2: try to get some things going because my mama knew, like,
Speaker 2: there's nothing to go back to. We got this little
Speaker 2: we got this my baby daddy money. We got the
Speaker 2: Full Clip month with movie money, but eventually that's gonna
Speaker 2: run out, especially the price of living in LA. She's like, man,
Speaker 2: once I get to you know what I mean, getting
Speaker 2: get us into a place and enroll them in school, be.
Speaker 1: Able to touch the money though, because I heard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's a percentage of it goes to
Speaker 2: a trust fund. But you know what I mean, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's always you know what I mean, there's you need
Speaker 2: something to live off of obviously, So yeah, like she
Speaker 2: had a percentage, and you know what I mean, from there,
Speaker 2: she once I did, once I audition for Tracy Morgan Show,
Speaker 2: I booked it, and you know what I mean, that
Speaker 2: was that was like okay, that was her way to exhale,
Speaker 2: like okay, cool, Like it's paying off something that's gonna
Speaker 2: be steady. We know, we got something that's gonna gonna
Speaker 2: be to check every week. Like now we're we're she's comfortable.
Speaker 2: She's like, okay, cool, I can breathe. I'm about seven now,
Speaker 2: I'm freshly turning seven.
Speaker 1: Did you at that age understand money? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Hell no, I didn't understand money. I didn't know what
Speaker 2: it meant. Ten you give me ten ten crisp dollar bills.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm the richest kid in the world
Speaker 2: because I come I come from nothing. I really come
Speaker 2: from still, and I remember vividly it probably I had
Speaker 2: to be three, I said, like, I come from a
Speaker 2: long line of just fucking criminals. Man years old, we're
Speaker 2: still in not the liquor store, at our neighborhood liquor store.
Speaker 2: I'm three, probably four years old. I'm I'm seeing them still,
Speaker 2: so I'm putting it in my pocket. Yeah, like it
Speaker 2: just that's you know what I mean, that's what came natural.
Speaker 2: And no, I'm seeing y'all do it. So that's what
Speaker 2: we're doing. You know what I'm saying. That's that's the
Speaker 2: one thing you got to see it. I got that
Speaker 2: little crisp on, the little crispon the gotta have to crunch.
Speaker 1: But at this young age, do you start to feel
Speaker 1: any type of pressure. I guess that's what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get it, Like, did you feel any type of pressures?
Speaker 2: Like And that's another thing that credits No, that's nothing
Speaker 2: that that's a credit to my mama because one of
Speaker 2: the first things she told me before shit even got
Speaker 2: to like a point where it was like, let's say,
Speaker 2: like to where it was big and it was getting
Speaker 2: like colossal in a way, like she made sure to
Speaker 2: let me know, like, if you ever stop having fun
Speaker 2: with this shit, we're done with this shit, okay, Like
Speaker 2: she told me that from Jump Street. The moment it's
Speaker 2: not fun for you no more, you let me know,
Speaker 2: and it's over with the moment. You just want to
Speaker 2: go back to being a regular kid to go to school,
Speaker 2: and that's what we'll do. So I always had that
Speaker 2: freedom to be like, whether I'm failing succeeding, whether it's
Speaker 2: going my way not going my way, I can say
Speaker 2: fuck this shit, and my mama gonna behind me because
Speaker 2: she's not moved by the money she's not moved by
Speaker 2: with the shit that enticed most parents when it comes
Speaker 2: to having their kids in Hollywood, Like because it was
Speaker 2: never my mama's plan to do this. This was something
Speaker 2: that she just it was God's plan, and my mam
Speaker 2: will follow God's plan. But this was never her plan.
Speaker 2: She's like, it makes me no never mind, because if
Speaker 2: I got to I'm gonna go back to work and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna provide for minds. That was always her attitude about it.
Speaker 2: Like it was never no if ans or butts about
Speaker 2: it with my mama. So that made any type of
Speaker 2: pressure kind of subside, any type of pressure that could
Speaker 2: have been there. It was like, there ain't no way
Speaker 2: because I don't got her. You feel me, It ain't
Speaker 2: shit I gotta do but say, I'm done with this shit,
Speaker 2: and I can literally be done with this shit. Ain't
Speaker 2: nobody gonna be forcing me. Like a lot of child
Speaker 2: actors didn't have that to where their parents put them
Speaker 2: before the money. You know what I'm saying, Like my
Speaker 2: mama put me before the money, and like that's kind
Speaker 2: of why I shaped and molded how I came how
Speaker 2: I am, Like I'm humble, I'm kind of I'm down
Speaker 2: on earth for the most part, Like I'm not really
Speaker 2: because I've never been raised that the money was everything.
Speaker 2: I've always been raised like moral, those principles, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, what you stand for, what you stand
Speaker 2: on is what means the most. You know what I'm saying. Family,
Speaker 2: That's what means. I mean, like ship like that, Like
Speaker 2: that's just how it was brought up. Yeah, So there
Speaker 2: was never really no pressure on my on my part ever,
Speaker 2: for real, I don't think so. Yeah, not that I
Speaker 2: could ever remember. I don't never remember. Pressure started once
Speaker 2: I got older. I started to put pressure on myself
Speaker 2: when I got older too, to live up to everything
Speaker 2: and all they to compress as a young bull. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't do nothing less than that. Now.
Speaker 2: I did so much great as a young good it's
Speaker 2: not good enough no more.
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, was there ever a gap
Speaker 1: in between you being a young guy that was clearly
Speaker 1: very successful in his career, Like was there a gap
Speaker 1: where there was?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, was like Nigga fucked Bobby Jay where they
Speaker 2: chewed me up as good as I was tasting and
Speaker 2: they spit me out absolutely.
Speaker 1: And what did that feel like, and what was your
Speaker 1: thought process through that? It was are you good?
Speaker 2: You're good? I was probably about, I say, probably a
Speaker 2: freshman in high school is when shit really started like
Speaker 2: slowing down and it came to like a damnar complete
Speaker 2: stop at a time, like it was it shit just
Speaker 2: wasn't popping, Like it wasn't going like it. Shit wasn't popping.
Speaker 2: I was doing Hello auditions, I wasn't booking shit. I
Speaker 2: wasn't you know what I mean, It wasn't shit really popping,
Speaker 2: And like for me, it was like, damn, like what
Speaker 2: am I doing wrong? In a sense, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying? I questioned myself like damn, am I not
Speaker 2: good enough? No more? Did they only? Was I only
Speaker 2: good enough as this kid just playing this badass smart
Speaker 2: mouth kid? Was that the only thing they wanted me
Speaker 2: for it to be that?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Do they not think I can really act and play
Speaker 2: different roles and do different things? Like so it troubled
Speaker 2: me for show. It troubled me for show?
Speaker 1: And then did you feel like peer pressure because like
Speaker 1: now at this point you're.
Speaker 2: Famous, right, Yeah, Like I could say I felt I
Speaker 2: definitely felt a lot of I wouldn't say it was
Speaker 2: really peer pressure because the kids around me wasn't. Really
Speaker 2: I was the one pressure in kids like nigga, I'm
Speaker 2: because I was smoking weed early. I was. I was
Speaker 2: the one like bringing motherfuckers alone.
Speaker 1: And when I say pressure, I'm not saying from your
Speaker 1: school because at your school you're the.
Speaker 2: Time and I stayed two years.
Speaker 1: Where you you were very popular, right, But industry wise,
Speaker 1: were you feeling some type of pressure?
Speaker 2: No, because even amongst my friend group of other child actors,
Speaker 2: I was the most successful. Okay, in my in my break,
Speaker 2: like this is not the sound cock, he's not to
Speaker 2: be arrogant, none of that in my in the time
Speaker 2: when it slowed down for me, none of the niggas
Speaker 2: I came up with caught me, okay, and not just
Speaker 2: that's just that's just the.
Speaker 1: Guys on the true But how long was the break?
Speaker 2: It lasted Probably a good she at least a good
Speaker 2: five or seven years.
Speaker 1: I said, that's long.
Speaker 2: That's a break that's been in a decade. The show
Speaker 2: my whole my whole time in high school, like I
Speaker 2: ain't had no motion, like I was living off of
Speaker 2: residual and sh I have been doing like I think
Speaker 2: I I probably did Tyler Perry's House of Pain and
Speaker 2: Tyler Perrys for Better or Worse for a couple of
Speaker 2: years during high school. But I fucked that.
Speaker 5: Up on my throat dumb decisions.
Speaker 2: Uh, one of my buddies took his mama car and
Speaker 2: me just like I'm a loyal nigga, Like, nigga, we
Speaker 2: in it together. You took their mother ucking car. So
Speaker 2: I think I'm like fifteen, I'm just starting driving. I
Speaker 2: got a permit, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: nigga took the car. Fuck it. The homie who we
Speaker 2: had that was our older homie that was supposed to drive,
Speaker 2: left my nigga on stuck like we're supposed to always.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to come back, get him, get the car,
Speaker 2: take the car back to his mama. Boom and no,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, nobody knows nothing. Buddy stopped answering
Speaker 2: his phone on us. Lee was hanging so before I'm like,
Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm not about to call your MoMA, like
Speaker 2: what your car here? He here, come get the car.
Speaker 2: I'm like, fucking nigga, we together, you my dog, nigga,
Speaker 2: fuck it, we about to load, like getting this motherfuck,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna drive you home. Nigga'm gonna have a kid.
Speaker 2: It's one of no uber ns on this I gotta
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call a cab ahead of time, have a
Speaker 2: cab waiting on it's crib, probably ten minutes from my hotel.
Speaker 2: I'm standing at the time, like, bro, I can't make
Speaker 2: it ten minutes. Something ain't right. But we just take it.
Speaker 2: Ten minutes. Park this morningfuck in a parking structure. You
Speaker 2: go upstairs like you've been now hanging and banging, hooping
Speaker 2: all day. We're good, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We're running for my moms.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, facts like you good, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: So hey, we're gonna pretend it and hopefully will be.
Speaker 2: As mama not on. Yeah. So, but it turns out
Speaker 2: that I wasn't as good a driver as I thought. Uh.
Speaker 2: I crashed the ship out that car pretty bad. But
Speaker 2: not only because they know way like I was a
Speaker 2: bad driver. It was pouring raining, So as a beginning,
Speaker 2: as a beginner driver, you're not ready for that. Like
Speaker 2: I'm and I'm rushing, I know, like I'm nervous, I'm rushing.
Speaker 2: I'm driving fast on a hurry up because my mom
Speaker 2: is in the next hotel room next door like we
Speaker 2: and we're enjoining rooms. So I'm like, I gotta get
Speaker 2: back before my mom. I got to be on set
Speaker 2: the next morning. I know my mama's gonna be knocking
Speaker 2: on this door to make sure. With my clothes picked
Speaker 2: out for the next morning, I got everything together for
Speaker 2: work the next morning. So I'm like, Nigga, I gotta
Speaker 2: get you here and get back before my mama get
Speaker 2: w into anything. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I love how everybody was scared of their mama
Speaker 1: and this still.
Speaker 2: Scared of my mama to this day, to what Deon
Speaker 2: Waller say to this day, still scared of my mama.
Speaker 2: Don't play with that lady. She's about four ten and all, Mama,
Speaker 2: Mama a little loer than me, and don't fuck around.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
Speaker 2: He don't fuck around, Nick. Now, they didn't seen me
Speaker 2: get my ass whooped on the set before? What man? Listen, Kyle, Now,
Speaker 2: when we finished the interview and ask him about to
Speaker 2: strike out my ass whooped on set, my mama sent
Speaker 2: me back to the Yeah I'm good now, Yeah, Mama
Speaker 2: didn't play mama didn't fucking around me and car nowt
Speaker 2: on that. That's a story we laughed about all the
Speaker 2: time to this day, we laugh about that. Whoa, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I fucked it up, we crashed the car, we
Speaker 2: get arrested. So when we get arrested, this is when
Speaker 2: we get arrested. We getting the damn pre sine with
Speaker 2: the damn officers. And me realized, at this point in
Speaker 2: my age, I'm starting to realize who I am. I'm
Speaker 2: starting to realize I got money. I'm a young nigga
Speaker 2: with money and da da da, So I'm arrogant. I'm
Speaker 2: a little arrogant at this point. And my buddy, he
Speaker 2: was a young lit dude too. He was his dad
Speaker 2: is somebody, very very big time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So we was lit. So were getting this motherfucker. We
Speaker 2: talking cash it to the office. Man, what you're talking
Speaker 2: to you? Tomow? You caused one hundred fifet dollars damage
Speaker 2: a partly? Like, man, that's a Lamborghini. My daddy got
Speaker 2: two of them. I'm like, yeah, nigga, fuck you mean
Speaker 2: niga one hundred fift thousand. I'm gonna make that this season.
Speaker 2: Nigga what you're talking about? Like what talking shit? You
Speaker 2: know what I mean? So that pissed the officers off
Speaker 2: to where the officer was gonna release us to our mamas.
Speaker 2: That night. We talked so cold to them niggas that
Speaker 2: they're like, nope, you're going to jail. We're taking you
Speaker 2: to Julie. It's in Atlanta. We went, We went the
Speaker 2: Metro Juvenile Detention Center. I never forget it. And when
Speaker 2: we went there, we got there and we were supposed
Speaker 2: to go to court the morning we got there. One
Speaker 2: of the ladies that was like the head of the
Speaker 2: juvenile attention center, older black lady, no nonsense. I wish
Speaker 2: I could remember her name because she she she she
Speaker 2: gave me a lot of game, a lot of game.
Speaker 2: In that moment. I didn't. I didn't really take heed
Speaker 2: to it. Like I got a little older and really
Speaker 2: realized she was trying to tell me. But she gave
Speaker 2: me a lot of game. And she said, wait, who
Speaker 2: are you? You who? And my buddy named after his daddy,
Speaker 2: So when she said his name, you know who his
Speaker 2: daddy is. So you who? You who? Ah, y'all not
Speaker 2: going to get you think I get y'all think I
Speaker 2: got special ain't no specials in this motherfucker. Y'all not
Speaker 2: going to court the morning because you you, you and
Speaker 2: you his son and no, you're going to court Wednesday.
Speaker 2: I think it's like a Saturday.
Speaker 1: So you were in jail for that many days?
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed. So now you gotta realize how much money
Speaker 2: I'm costing, mister Perry, because now I'm not there to shoot.
Speaker 2: I'm fucking up big time because now they got to
Speaker 2: rearrange the whole shoot schedule around me. And I'm not
Speaker 2: even the star of the show. I'm just I'm the
Speaker 2: son of the stars of the show. So I'm not
Speaker 2: even like Nigga. We we we fucking up millions of
Speaker 2: dollars because of you like this, before I realized how
Speaker 2: much a day of shooting really caused, different cameras and
Speaker 2: crews and cast members and everybody getting paid, transportation, people catering,
Speaker 2: Like it's a million dollar day that I just fucked off.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like if I could see me,
Speaker 2: if I bro my bad dog. Because now I'm an adult,
Speaker 2: I understand what I did. You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: where I went wrong at You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: But as a young, arrogant nigga that just think I
Speaker 2: know it all, and you know what I mean, I
Speaker 2: ain't no shit, So yeah, man, it taught me a
Speaker 2: lot though, I said, we go to jail, we go
Speaker 2: to court, Wednesday, we get released from court. But by
Speaker 2: this time they missed three days of work, so that
Speaker 2: means three days of filming had to be rearranged based
Speaker 2: off of my stupid ass decision. I mean, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: really say it was a stupid decision. It was a
Speaker 2: decision where like it was a young decision, and like
Speaker 2: I can't say I wouldn't make the same decision today.
Speaker 2: I'm a loyal nigga. I'm with my dog like it
Speaker 2: is like it ain't no nigga that did the same
Speaker 2: for me, She actually didn't. At this point we was
Speaker 2: past ass whoopings. So now she I was about fifteen,
Speaker 2: so I'm getting that, like, okay, mama, this little belt,
Speaker 2: your little as women's ain't really it ain't nothing. So
Speaker 2: now she would get me no phone, no xbox, and
Speaker 2: then she took my freedom. I remember, I'm just now
Speaker 2: starting to fuck right. So I'm in my own hotel.
Speaker 2: Run I say, I'm in my I'm in a joining
Speaker 2: room my mom in another room. It's a door. I
Speaker 2: can always lock that door, keep out of it. So
Speaker 2: she cut me all the way off. No phone, no uh,
Speaker 2: no game, and I don't get my own work. Now
Speaker 2: I'm in a double bed with her. Oh I can't.
Speaker 1: Even that is enough.
Speaker 2: Fact at fifteen years old, the word you're thinking like, oh,
Speaker 2: I got to share a room with my mama. Like
Speaker 2: I don't even want my mama kissing me in public.
Speaker 2: I gotta go to bed. Nigga, my mama right there,
Speaker 2: this is we right here. I'm in the bed, my
Speaker 2: mama in the bed. That is embarrassing. Like it's like, nigga,
Speaker 2: I wake up like every day like for mama right there.
Speaker 2: Like I can't even say what I want to say.
Speaker 2: I can't do what I want to get. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't got my phone at it this, so I ain't
Speaker 2: like I could I could call my girl and talk
Speaker 2: on the phone with my girl any goddamn way because
Speaker 2: I don't got no damn phone. Hilarious, But yeah, man,
Speaker 2: mama didn't place you. She said, Okay, we're gonna you
Speaker 2: want to be a jail bird. I'm gona tat you
Speaker 2: like jail right here. You don't get no privileges this nigga.
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta seale mate. I'm your sale maate nigga.
Speaker 2: And I'm big dog nigga. I got top bunk. I
Speaker 2: control the TV. All that, nigga. I get showered first nigga.
Speaker 2: All that. Yeah, Mama was on that, like Mama was
Speaker 2: sucking around.
Speaker 1: To teach me. Shout out to the moms how to
Speaker 1: be a mom. That's how you're supposed to do it.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so she taught that lesson. You cook that food,
Speaker 1: let's try to let's know it.
Speaker 2: Are you taking one slice?
Speaker 1: Right? It's one o? My bad?
Speaker 2: I mean you could, but then it becomes it becomes
Speaker 2: too much bread. Okay, get you one good slice. Like
Speaker 2: I said, I'm a nigga that I'll be overdoing it.
Speaker 2: I like a lot of bacon. So I'm typing. I
Speaker 2: put that dawn.
Speaker 1: Look at this. This is hilarious. You gotta sort of
Speaker 1: are you folding the bread? Yeah, I'm touching it with
Speaker 1: my hands. Go ahead, do your thing the thing, you know,
Speaker 1: do your thing here.
Speaker 2: We go here, go ahead and get your bread.
Speaker 1: I want to pack it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta pack it right, you gotta get it right.
Speaker 1: You got a lot, yeah, right here.
Speaker 2: That's where you're at with Okay, Well, if that's what
Speaker 2: you are, I'm gonna ad a couple of more, right.
Speaker 2: You gotta put them to a cross like that. So
Speaker 2: when they hit a crunch with it, mm hmmm, you
Speaker 2: gotta squeeze it real quick, that's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: put into it. Yeah, yeah, you gotta get in there
Speaker 2: to get it crispy, and you got it.
Speaker 1: I love how. I love nothing more, just so you know,
Speaker 1: and when guests get really into this hole, yeah.
Speaker 2: This ship real. I still eat this today. I ain't
Speaker 2: even broke no more, and I was still our fuck
Speaker 2: a bacon sign, which you sire. Yeah, you squished the bread,
Speaker 2: you get it. Yeah, you're gonna yeah, you're that crunch
Speaker 2: when you do that, Yeah, that's what. That's what you
Speaker 2: get me, right, and then you get you get your
Speaker 2: night up.
Speaker 1: Now, simple, nobody, nobody.
Speaker 2: I love it. I don't know how. I don't know
Speaker 2: how you don't like it. I love it just salty
Speaker 2: and sweet from the bread.
Speaker 1: It's perfect and desperate measures. Yes, but you know, just
Speaker 1: since I'm gonna rate his dish. You need them. Got condiments, ma'am?
Speaker 2: But okay, so you tell me what the hell is connoiments?
Speaker 2: Was gonna put sauce on the baking?
Speaker 4: Male?
Speaker 2: Em, I'm baking. That's your Caucasian side coming out as
Speaker 2: a male. If you just say a miracle whip. If
Speaker 2: you said miracle whip, I'm wishing. I love miracle with
Speaker 2: miracle whip. What did it? That's crazy? And now I
Speaker 2: think about it. I used to put miracle whip on
Speaker 2: this joint. I used to put miracle whip on here.
Speaker 2: That's the one thing I sure did. But is it
Speaker 2: something about dry I.
Speaker 1: Would put miracle whip on it.
Speaker 2: It's just something about the sweet taste of the white
Speaker 2: bread mixed with the salty of the turkey baking. And
Speaker 2: it ain't greasy like pork bacon where red start falling apart.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? As I like about it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah? This why you got
Speaker 2: some good water man.
Speaker 1: On the affordable meter, this dish. You won't start death.
Speaker 1: You hate your protein, your carbs.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, and the bread gonna do it every
Speaker 2: time like I'm telling you every time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go on this higher. So after the tiler
Speaker 1: pair situation, is there any like, is there any conversation
Speaker 1: about it? Are you fired or fired as?
Speaker 2: Fired as fired as? But I respect mister Perry to
Speaker 2: this day because look as you still eat. Nobody that
Speaker 2: more fucker busting. Look at it. It's doing what it's
Speaker 2: supposed to do. Stop planing. I know you when you
Speaker 2: is how I gotta be. But yeah, it was right.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't hate because the salt doesn't help.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you I respect mister Perry though, because before
Speaker 2: he fired me, he pulled me in his office, had
Speaker 2: a conversation. He said, listen, man. He looked at me
Speaker 2: and said, what is it you want out of this ship?
Speaker 2: What is it like? Which want the money? The cars? Private? Jason,
Speaker 2: I got it all. I'm doing it all. I've seen
Speaker 2: it all, I've had it all I've been and that
Speaker 2: what you want? You say, bro, that sh is in
Speaker 2: your arms reach. But you're fucking up. You're fucking it
Speaker 2: up for yourself, nobody else. You're fucking it up for yourself.
Speaker 2: Now me, the arrogant fifteen year old I am. I'm
Speaker 2: just thinking he's just talking to You're gonna get me
Speaker 2: a talking to. Then we back to the money. I'm
Speaker 2: not knowing. I'm about to get fired. I'm not knowing
Speaker 2: as the last conversation I've ever had with mister Perry
Speaker 2: in my life. You feel me like I'm not knowing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you gonna you don't talk to me. It's
Speaker 2: like a like a principle at school, he gonna talk
Speaker 2: to me, but eventually it's gonna be like whatever, send
Speaker 2: me back to class, Like you know, I mean, so
Speaker 2: he said, you fucking up and you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: gave me kind of good talking to, Like, Bro, you
Speaker 2: fucking up, and I mean, this shit ain't cool. Like bro,
Speaker 2: you call you know how much money you cost me?
Speaker 2: Like you kept it? Really know much money you cost me?
Speaker 2: Like you cost me a lot of fucking money, bro,
Speaker 2: Like money you don't have to replace. I could pay
Speaker 2: you that I can't. You could do ten seasons of
Speaker 2: this show. You still wouldn't have enough money to replace
Speaker 2: what what it just cost me to work around you
Speaker 2: being in jail because you're doing some dumb shit. In
Speaker 2: my mind, I said, I feel like it wasn't no
Speaker 2: dumb shit like I was. I was doing what I
Speaker 2: feel like my dog would have did for me if
Speaker 2: it was were reversed. Like, like, my loyalty has always
Speaker 2: been one of my biggest downfalls in my wife. I
Speaker 2: feel like I've always been loyal to I won't say
Speaker 2: the wrong people, but I've always been loyal to a fault,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I've picked the wrong
Speaker 2: time to display my lawyer when it's like sometimes you're like, look, brother,
Speaker 2: you know I'll fool with you. You know I got
Speaker 2: your back, But this is how to provide for my family.
Speaker 2: Like my mama don't got no job at the time.
Speaker 2: My brothers just locked up for bank robbery, Like I
Speaker 2: come from a long line of monther Us that don't
Speaker 2: really like asking for people ship, Like my brother are
Speaker 2: very aware of the fact that their little brother's on TV.
Speaker 2: Mama got different. Mama has funds and access to money
Speaker 2: to help y'all. But my mama like, if y'all won't,
Speaker 2: y'all to come to LA and I'm not sending y'all
Speaker 2: their money back there to go buy whatever you're gonna
Speaker 2: buy and try to sell it on the street, and
Speaker 2: I'm not sending you no money to I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: tell no king Pin I'm not gonna do that with
Speaker 2: this money. You know what I mean. If you're gonna
Speaker 2: comeut here, you're gonna come out here, you're gonna go
Speaker 2: to set with your brother. I put you on the
Speaker 2: on the payroll as his handler. One gonna be his handler.
Speaker 2: That wont gonna be my personal assistant, and you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. But they wasn't with that, Like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm thugging for real, like in the streets with this.
Speaker 2: We're in the streets with this shit. So it's like
Speaker 2: they they the measure, they took it. They went and
Speaker 2: robbed the banks, so they gone, they doing time at
Speaker 2: the time, you know what I mean. So it's like
Speaker 2: everything depending on me. If I would have if I knew,
Speaker 2: if I knew what I know now, I said, I
Speaker 2: probably would have still found a way to help him
Speaker 2: get that car back without his mama knowing and not
Speaker 2: left him hanging the word, because at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, I'm thinking in my head, like if you
Speaker 2: get in trouble for this car being here, I'm still
Speaker 2: I'm fucked too. Like regardless fast, it's literally nigga me
Speaker 2: getting this car back. Say both of y'all, say both
Speaker 2: of our ass because my MoMA like, s, so, what
Speaker 2: the fuck y'all been doing with this car?
Speaker 3: All?
Speaker 2: They nigga? So so you what you told him to
Speaker 2: come take his mama car and bring it to you.
Speaker 2: I'm guilty by association regardless. So it's like, nigga, I
Speaker 2: gotta say both of our ass you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's how I was thinking about it. But like now
Speaker 2: that I'm older, I probably be like, man, brother, look
Speaker 2: we about to find a cab driver. I'm gonna pay
Speaker 2: this cab driver to drive you and your mama car home.
Speaker 2: I know something with another alternative.
Speaker 1: It's funny because it's it's a slippers. So you have
Speaker 1: these moms that are very caring and loving, right, and
Speaker 1: you have your friendship to your friend. And I'm not
Speaker 1: knocking any of the moms, and it was good that
Speaker 1: they instilled the fear they did. But if you really
Speaker 1: look at the root of the problem is it's kind
Speaker 1: of like you're scared at your mama. And again not
Speaker 1: knocking because I think my mom had this conversation with me.
Speaker 1: I have a two year old, and she said, you know,
Speaker 1: do you have enough control over her if she has
Speaker 1: to cross the street and you say stop, you know,
Speaker 1: don't cross. Will she be able to stop? And I
Speaker 1: knew the answer was absolutely not, Like what never happened.
Speaker 4: My daughter was like, but but but I say that
Speaker 4: to say that I get you looking back and saying
Speaker 4: I would do it all again because of these these
Speaker 4: moral standards.
Speaker 1: And I have the same problem. By the way, I'm
Speaker 1: loyal to a fault like you could. I'll be like, well,
Speaker 1: they whatever, But but I will say this though, but
Speaker 1: if you look at it, the things that you guys
Speaker 1: were running from was like the pure fear of your
Speaker 1: moms from your mother.
Speaker 2: The trouble for my mamas ain't ain't as bad as
Speaker 2: the trouble.
Speaker 1: Trouble that you guys got it.
Speaker 2: If I look bad like me, we might to take
Speaker 2: these little ass woomen being punish me can't hang out
Speaker 2: for yeah, a week or two. But it's like nigga,
Speaker 2: we will find a way to still hang out her.
Speaker 1: But you can also, you know, if you look at psychology,
Speaker 1: I always say, like, you know, young brains, they're not
Speaker 1: fully mature, they're not weighing out all the options. And
Speaker 1: I can see where it's like I was terrified of
Speaker 1: my mom nigga, I would have done I would have
Speaker 1: gotten my mom. So I get it. But going back
Speaker 1: to the Tyler Perry situation, and it's good that you
Speaker 1: talk about it and you're going back and forth because
Speaker 1: I think it really gets us to see like your
Speaker 1: your core character, like where your values are at. Like
Speaker 1: I thought about it a hundred times. Would I have
Speaker 1: done it again? Yeah I would.
Speaker 2: I just probably would have did it a little different differently,
Speaker 2: even thought it's not what you do is how you
Speaker 2: do it, So I would have probably switched away. I
Speaker 2: went about it. Yeah, somebody like like I said, I was,
Speaker 2: I'm a young nigga. I'm fifteen years old, but I
Speaker 2: got a debit card, I'm having I got a amount
Speaker 2: of money on my car. So I been like, Bro,
Speaker 2: there got to be an adult with a dry I
Speaker 2: can pay bro, drive this car to this location. Don't
Speaker 2: go a step further.
Speaker 1: But I think there's there were so many things like
Speaker 1: even when you hear the story, it's like you have
Speaker 1: this young person who's acquired some kind of status, who
Speaker 1: has friends of status. You know, even when you guys
Speaker 1: get arrested and you're like around each other. I remember
Speaker 1: being like fifteen or sixteen, And the first time I
Speaker 1: recursed was like behind my mom's back. She walks in
Speaker 1: the room, she catches me cursing. But I'm amongst my
Speaker 1: friends like that, F and B. I don't remember the words,
Speaker 1: but all of those. My mom walked in and I said,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is the day I die.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: But when you get around your friends at that age,
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm big and bad, you know. And that's
Speaker 1: the part of being growing up, growing up right, so
Speaker 1: logical everything you did seems like totally rational at your age.
Speaker 1: And then and then a fifteen year old with responsibilities,
Speaker 1: who's working, who's earning his own money, who's providing for
Speaker 1: his family. But take me back.
Speaker 2: His attention was like get it done and get to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get to get it done, get to work. But
Speaker 1: Tyler Pierr has this conversation. Does he fire you at
Speaker 1: the end of the conversation.
Speaker 2: No, he has a conversation with me, and I think
Speaker 2: I finished, I do my filming whatever. They shoot my
Speaker 2: scenes out for that day and I'm gone. They flew
Speaker 2: me out like the next day. So it was it
Speaker 2: was a silent firing. The firing part was silent. I
Speaker 2: just had to get the picture. Oh nigga, they don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not coming back, like they're done with me. And
Speaker 2: it was it was people that was upset about it though,
Speaker 2: because they were like, bro, he's a kid. You gotta
Speaker 2: this is your This is the opportunity to be you
Speaker 2: know what I mean to to to to kind of be.
Speaker 2: I said, my daddy was in my life for show.
Speaker 2: But it's like, this is the opportunity to give him
Speaker 2: that that lessons as a man, that that's that he
Speaker 2: looks up to that as a man, Like I do
Speaker 2: feel like he could have went about it differently. They'll
Speaker 2: cost you money, yeah, but money all that that shit.
Speaker 2: Come back the opportunity to teach a lesson to a
Speaker 2: young black man that comes from nothing, just like you
Speaker 2: come from nothing, and and and it showed me like, no, bro,
Speaker 2: come on now, you can't. I feel like I feel
Speaker 2: like he could have took that opportunity and did a
Speaker 2: little bit differently.
Speaker 1: I did see Tyler Perry's documentary. Did you ever get
Speaker 1: to see it?
Speaker 2: I haven't watched the whole thing, but I do his
Speaker 2: story just from working with him.
Speaker 1: Kind of I didn't know his story, but I do
Speaker 1: know like I remember when I first moved to La
Speaker 1: hearing about his plays or whatever. People are like talking
Speaker 1: about this guy who had this play, and it was
Speaker 1: like maybe a tape that was going around or something,
Speaker 1: or I just remember people talking about it. But when
Speaker 1: I saw the documentary and everything he went through, I
Speaker 1: think that I don't know if, especially as a teenager,
Speaker 1: like it's sometimes grace can be a slippery slope. You
Speaker 1: give someone grace.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I would appreciate it. The
Speaker 2: reason probably would have kept sucking up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's it's a slippery slope, and I'm learning
Speaker 1: that as an adult, Like you can give grace, but
Speaker 1: it's a slippery slope because there's a thin line between
Speaker 1: grace and disrespect. Sometimes.
Speaker 2: I just you know, like if the roles were reversed
Speaker 2: and I'm in that position, I take that young nigga
Speaker 2: under my wing.
Speaker 1: Like nah, I would have been like, I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: sure you.
Speaker 2: Don't fuck up no more, Nigga'm about to show you
Speaker 2: some ship that we're like, Nigga, you know, like I
Speaker 2: gotta get to this, but also I gotta get to that.
Speaker 2: So I know the only way to get to that
Speaker 2: is the following the foot he I gotta not fuck
Speaker 2: up in the more, follow in these footstep, like show
Speaker 2: a young nigga away, Bro, I'm a young nigga that
Speaker 2: really come from nothing. Every nigga I ever looked up
Speaker 2: to them being is a feling my daddy, every last
Speaker 2: one of my I got one brother that ain't a
Speaker 2: fella and he lives in fucking Australia and I and
Speaker 2: before he lived in Australia, he went to college and
Speaker 2: fucking South or North Dakota or something like that. And like,
Speaker 2: we got the same daddy, not the same mama. So
Speaker 2: we're close, but we weren't in the same household. Every
Speaker 2: man in the household that I came up in. That
Speaker 2: was my example. Nigga, thug it out until you can't
Speaker 2: no more. Like that's just what I knew. That's what
Speaker 2: I That's still just what I know, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like that's just how I was, That's how
Speaker 2: I was brought up in a sense, like my mama
Speaker 2: did her absolute best. But it's a young man is
Speaker 2: not going to model himself after his mother. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: it's impossible. I'm gonna model myself after the men in
Speaker 2: my life. Look up to me. Like I said, my brother,
Speaker 2: the closest brother I got to my age, is ten
Speaker 2: years older than me. So when I was born, he
Speaker 2: was ten years old. By the time I'm able to
Speaker 2: really pay attention to what he's doing, he's thirteen, fourteen,
Speaker 2: and then I got a sixteen. I got an eighteen
Speaker 2: at eighteen, bro gone doing ten years old, just done
Speaker 2: doing ten years I remembered vividly the police coming and
Speaker 2: knocking on my mama door taking him away. I remember
Speaker 2: that seeing that, probably five years old. Maybe I might
Speaker 2: have been four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Was young at shit like. I remember seeing that vividly.
Speaker 2: I remember seeing the police kicking the door in my
Speaker 2: daddy house and take my daddy to jail, foot on
Speaker 2: my daddy neck, foot on my brother. I remember seeing that.
Speaker 2: Everything that I seen and everything that everybody I looked
Speaker 2: up to was full fledged gangsters like I ain't. That's
Speaker 2: just all I've ever had to look up to was
Speaker 2: niggas that were in the streets. I've never really had
Speaker 2: nobody that was on a positive path take me under
Speaker 2: their wing and be like this the way it goes.
Speaker 1: A little bro, Now to your career now because I
Speaker 1: know you're and I don't want to speak on I
Speaker 1: really don't like to speak bump. But since we know
Speaker 1: some of the same people, you have someone like Nile
Speaker 1: or Nick. Yeah, nigas one of those people like he
Speaker 1: sees something in you. I want to say, niggas the.
Speaker 2: Nick I'm a fuck up. Huh, Nick think I'm a
Speaker 2: fuck up?
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 2: I feel like Nick loves me but keeps me at
Speaker 2: a distance because he feels like I'm a liability. I
Speaker 2: think that's just me being honest.
Speaker 1: So I feel so.
Speaker 2: Nick loved the shit out of me, though, but it's
Speaker 2: like he think I feel like he thinks I'm too
Speaker 2: hard headed. I don't think he feel like I don't
Speaker 2: listen or I won't listen. But like Nigga, you never
Speaker 2: really told me nothing to listen to.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because I feel like I worked with Nick
Speaker 1: for like ten years, and I would see Nick joke
Speaker 1: with like a lot of people around me. We were
Speaker 1: very close in age. I think everyone Nick surround himself
Speaker 1: for the most part, are like twenty years older than him,
Speaker 1: like you know or now.
Speaker 2: He's always like now, Nick has always been a little bros.
Speaker 2: So Nick has never been the big brody like, nah,
Speaker 2: come here, my nigga, but he doesn't now he has
Speaker 2: now like more so like more recently. But I think
Speaker 2: for me, like I think Nick just think I'm so
Speaker 2: far gone. But it's like, Nigga, I just am who
Speaker 2: I am. If you take some time to have a
Speaker 2: conversation with Bobby J. The man, because you know Bobby J.
Speaker 2: The kid, and you can't understand how that kid you
Speaker 2: knew turn in But Nigga, you gotta understand I was
Speaker 2: a kid that was trained to be the keys.
Speaker 1: But that's what I want to I want to. I
Speaker 1: want to say this about him because I worked with
Speaker 1: him for ten years and he would joke with everybody.
Speaker 1: He you know, he I'd be lying to say, Nick,
Speaker 1: he's closer my age group. Whether or not I thought
Speaker 1: he was okay or attractive looking was whatever, But I
Speaker 1: just knew because we're around the same age. We work together,
Speaker 1: you know industry be like, oh they I cook it up,
Speaker 1: and so we were very very business or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I remember like the one or two times where
Speaker 1: Nick was like, you're fucking up. Yeah, and his you know,
Speaker 1: never ever had no real conversation, but there was one
Speaker 1: or two conversations where he was like, you may want
Speaker 1: to reconsider some of your your moves, you know. And
Speaker 1: so I think just personality wise, he's one of those
Speaker 1: people that he don't really mentor he's not even.
Speaker 2: Like your best friend personality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he had.
Speaker 2: More so like I will now i'd be like, let
Speaker 2: me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody had my back morning now, but now sometimes
Speaker 1: can stab me in the like our last conversation he
Speaker 1: says something and I didn't take his car after this,
Speaker 1: and you know he don't listen, thank god, he don't
Speaker 1: listen to all my episodes. But but now I think
Speaker 1: it's a straight shooter. And when you when the chips
Speaker 1: are down, I don't give a fuck if you work
Speaker 1: with now you never had a real conversation with him.
Speaker 1: He is that nigga that you can be like, he gonna.
Speaker 2: Take I'd have been in jail, fucked up. Now he
Speaker 2: paid pound of money. Yeah, now lawyer money.
Speaker 1: Hey did you you know Dorian two?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All them niggas is uh solid, I would say all them.
Speaker 1: And but I think the way Nick moves is I
Speaker 1: think he pays attention to And I've said this to people.
Speaker 1: I think he trusts no one and he watches everybody
Speaker 1: so like you'll be like I walked in the room,
Speaker 1: he didn't even say hi. It's like Nick knew you
Speaker 1: were there before you entered the building. Like every move
Speaker 1: is his chest and he doesn't do the controversial stuff absolutely,
Speaker 1: And like I said, the only two times he's ever
Speaker 1: pulled me to the side when it was like a
Speaker 1: for sure fuck up, and it was a very short
Speaker 1: like you may want to reroute because this could end bad.
Speaker 1: I've got I've got.
Speaker 2: That from now. I've never even got that from Nick
Speaker 2: to be like, hey bro, what the fuck? Like you tripping?
Speaker 2: Nigga figured that out, you know what I mean. But now,
Speaker 2: on the other hand, it's been like come here. But
Speaker 2: now at the same time, now has a better understanding
Speaker 2: of who I am, my what I like, my trauma,
Speaker 2: what causes me to be. He got a better understanding
Speaker 2: of that than than Nick. Does you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: so I can. That's why I feel like now it's
Speaker 2: easier for to be able to come to me like
Speaker 2: hey man, what the fuck is you doing?
Speaker 1: You tripped me?
Speaker 2: I know that this is the circumstance. I know this happened.
Speaker 2: I know this happened. To know that happened. But nigga,
Speaker 2: everything that happened has nothing to do with the next
Speaker 2: ten years of your life, the decisions you're finna make
Speaker 2: and how you set yourself up a success or failure. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know what I mean. Like I said, I
Speaker 2: apprecialize that there's nothing there's nothing bad about it. It's
Speaker 2: just Nick is not the mentoring type. And that's cool,
Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean, Yeah, it's just for me.
Speaker 2: I've always looked at Nick like big brother, because I've
Speaker 2: known the niggas since I.
Speaker 1: Was like, hey, you've been around, Yeah, you've been.
Speaker 2: Around, Like I made Nika the Kids Choice Awards, and
Speaker 2: you can find the pictures on Google, Like if you
Speaker 2: call Google my name and google Bobby Nick and you'll
Speaker 2: find the picture of Nick with a big stupid baggy
Speaker 2: jersey on some fucking headband neck braids.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, and I told my little
Speaker 1: brother this when he was working. Nick was like, I
Speaker 1: think just just just because I've been kind of in
Speaker 1: the offices versus on sets, I'll just say, like observation
Speaker 1: I told legal this, like, if you're in the room,
Speaker 1: he fucks with you, and he believes in you, period
Speaker 1: you period. If you are in the room, he made
Speaker 1: that exactly a decision. Nick has always believe than you.
Speaker 1: I just think, like I said, he has that million
Speaker 1: layers of fencing around him as he should. As he
Speaker 1: should because if you know his story, it's like, yeah, nigga,
Speaker 1: I would have a million layers of fencing. But to
Speaker 1: go back to your story, did you eventually I know
Speaker 1: you mentioned now, but did you start to seek out
Speaker 1: mentors at some point or did you just stumble upon you.
Speaker 2: I ain't gotten and I'll just be learning as I
Speaker 2: go for real, like I learned from my mistakes. I
Speaker 2: bump my head and I know, like I don't want
Speaker 2: that same not right there in the middle of my
Speaker 2: forehead no more. So let me figure it out. Like
Speaker 2: I've never I said, my dad was always a person
Speaker 2: that gave game. But by the time me and my
Speaker 2: daddy got to be like where it was because I
Speaker 2: was in LA a lot of years. I wasn't in
Speaker 2: Kansas City, but my dad. When my daddy did get
Speaker 2: out of prison, I was living in Los Angeles. He
Speaker 2: was in Kansas City, and then by the time I
Speaker 2: came back home, I'm already smoking weed. I'm already kind
Speaker 2: of doing my own thing. I'm already kind of shaping
Speaker 2: and molding myself into who I believe that I want
Speaker 2: and who I'm supposed to be. So, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, My daddy couldn't do really couldn't really do
Speaker 2: much but advise and and you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: kind of sit there. And then that's another thing my daddy.
Speaker 2: My daddy was person like nigga, gonna have to You're
Speaker 2: gonna have to bump your head because you're hard headed.
Speaker 2: That I've always been hard headed, Like I was a
Speaker 2: hard headed kid. I was a hard headed teenager. So,
Speaker 2: like I said, I've always learned from my own experience.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I don't think I think
Speaker 2: if somebody was to be like, now, come here, nigga,
Speaker 2: learned from learn what I'm about to tell you, learn
Speaker 2: what I'm about to show you, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be opposed to that.
Speaker 1: Now do you think that that person would have to be?
Speaker 1: Because I know what mentors. I'm a die hard mentor freak.
Speaker 1: I mentor people, and I'm like everyone, I know, you
Speaker 1: get a mentor. But I think with men and what
Speaker 1: I've seen over the years when men is like, I
Speaker 1: feel like, it can't just be any guy that.
Speaker 2: Look up to somebody that you can see you're somebody
Speaker 2: that's where you want to be or further or somebody
Speaker 2: that you like. Okay, yeah, I can listen to you
Speaker 2: because you got the formula to go where I'm trying
Speaker 2: to go or be for You've been where I where
Speaker 2: I'm in the direction I'm headed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like like, but it's hard, But.
Speaker 1: It's also not just that, it's like, can you relate
Speaker 1: to where I'm from? It has to be the cocktail, right,
Speaker 1: especially I think for a black man, it has to
Speaker 1: be that cocktail of you know, you can't just be
Speaker 1: successful and you came from money. It has to be
Speaker 1: you successful and your dad and similar to my dad,
Speaker 1: and then we could talk about you mentoring me, right,
Speaker 1: Is that in my correctness?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure for sure? Okay, so yeah, definitely, that's
Speaker 2: definitely a big part of it, for sure, right. And
Speaker 2: I think that's why, like I would, I think that's
Speaker 2: why like for me, I personally like damn, like I
Speaker 2: wish Bro would be like, Hey Noah, come in, Bro,
Speaker 2: because you somebody I've always looked kid before we even
Speaker 2: actually work together. I stopped Nick on the red car, like,
Speaker 2: hey Nick, what's up? Like nigga, Like I didn't say
Speaker 2: these words. I'm like, man, I fuck with you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't remember what, but in so many words, that's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, Bro, I'm I'm a fan. I
Speaker 2: look up to you, nigga. What you're doing in Hollywood,
Speaker 2: where you started, Nigga. That's the path I'm trying. That's
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to get to. Like I see what
Speaker 2: you're doing. And at this time, niggas probably fresh off
Speaker 2: a drum line like this. This is like young Nick,
Speaker 2: like this is this.
Speaker 1: Two thousand it's two thousand and five, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like this is this young boy like and I'm super
Speaker 2: super young bull. So it's like I said, I think,
Speaker 2: I think eventually a conversation will be had, but it's
Speaker 2: like the nigga doesn't have time for conversation. Like sometimes
Speaker 2: the nigga's so busy he don't even have times down
Speaker 2: and talk to you. He barely like what's up? He
Speaker 2: barely has time to sit down and talk to himself
Speaker 2: here his own thoughts sometimes because it's always something a
Speaker 2: phone call or a conference call of meeting. So it's
Speaker 2: like it's not nothing again, there's nothing that he's doing
Speaker 2: wrong or bad. It's just like Nigga. Sometimes it doesn't
Speaker 2: go the way it's supposed to. But I said, I'm
Speaker 2: then at thirty years old, Like I shouldn't need that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like I should be able
Speaker 2: to well, I shouldn't even need it, but it's it's
Speaker 2: good to have it. I shouldn't need it. I should
Speaker 2: be able to see where I'm going or I'm headed,
Speaker 2: and what I need to do wrong, I mean, what
Speaker 2: I need to do differently to get what I'm trying
Speaker 2: to get. At this age in my life, it shouldn't
Speaker 2: be no like at in your early like seventeen eighteen
Speaker 2: year I feel like it's needed, it's kind of needed
Speaker 2: to have that, especially because becoming a man is different,
Speaker 2: like it it's becoming a man that that's a different monster.
Speaker 2: Like when you're really finding out who you are as
Speaker 2: a man versus who you thought you were or who
Speaker 2: you who you who you wanted to be with it's
Speaker 2: kind of face like, no, this is who you are,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like, I've always wanted to
Speaker 2: be the completely upstanding, straightforward citizen nigga, no trouble whatever.
Speaker 2: And I never wanted to be a felon or you
Speaker 2: I mean, nigga that and broke the law or somebody
Speaker 2: that you know what i mean, been in jail or whatever.
Speaker 2: I've never wanted to be that, but that was just
Speaker 2: what I had a favoriteality, Like, Nigga, that is who
Speaker 2: I am. That's not that I mean, that's that's that
Speaker 2: is who I am or who I became. But that
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be the end of the story. I
Speaker 2: can grow from that. But it's like, Nigga, what necessary
Speaker 2: steps do you got to take within yourself to grow
Speaker 2: from that? You know what I'm saying. So that's where
Speaker 2: I'm in life now, just figuring out the things I
Speaker 2: got to do differently to grow and to elevate, you
Speaker 2: know what i mean, without somebody being like, oh here, bro,
Speaker 2: come on, I'm gonna show you the way. Fuck that, nigga,
Speaker 2: show yourself the way. You've been showing yourself the way,
Speaker 2: and you done got damn far. You may be as
Speaker 2: far as you wanted to go with your lot.
Speaker 1: Fust I was gonna say, yeah, if you look at
Speaker 1: I think I've seen a video online and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: butcher it. But it was like a video where all
Speaker 1: these kids were wanting a race, and I think they
Speaker 1: had different kids starting at different starting points, and the
Speaker 1: kids that were less privileged started from way further back.
Speaker 1: So when you look at your race, you've done amazing.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, when I got the opportunity to interview you,
Speaker 1: it's kind of beautiful because it was like, I've worked
Speaker 1: with you, but i've seen more like crossing paths. I
Speaker 1: don't think we've ever really had conversations, but it's kind
Speaker 1: it's beautiful when you get someone of your caliber into
Speaker 1: our studio and it's just like you see the growth
Speaker 1: and you don't know how that person's gonna come off.
Speaker 1: You don't know if they're gonna be like cocky, arrogant
Speaker 1: or you know. I've seen people come in here like
Speaker 1: you've never been broke. It's amazing, you know, she I'd have.
Speaker 2: Been up, back down, back up again. Damn I'm slipping
Speaker 2: and falling, but I ain't down yet. I'm back, man,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen every walk of this ship.
Speaker 1: And you've and you've managed. Now, how have you been
Speaker 1: managing your money and stuff? Has that been? When did
Speaker 1: you start to really learn how to manage it?
Speaker 2: She when the nigga started catching cases and lawyer fees
Speaker 2: and bond money, and she like that started like damn, nigga,
Speaker 2: but you just about to chain last month.
Speaker 1: But wait cases for what, dumb chef? Okay, so like
Speaker 1: keeping But.
Speaker 2: I mean, like I called, I called a gun case.
Speaker 2: And then before that, I caught a case before I
Speaker 2: got in a fistfight and broke the boy jaw. And
Speaker 2: because of the jaw being broken, it was a great
Speaker 2: bodily injury and it became a felony and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And like I said, because I was poorly managing my money,
Speaker 2: I couldn't afford I couldn't afford to pay lawyer until
Speaker 2: far down the line, and I went on. I went
Speaker 2: on a run for six months, like I was like,
Speaker 2: fuck the ship. They would have to come get me,
Speaker 2: and I was able to. I came back to l A,
Speaker 2: I got locked up. I called Nile. Now that's unk
Speaker 2: to me, Like that's what I called. I called him unk,
Speaker 2: Like now I'm fucked up. I'm here, the lawyer say
Speaker 2: three thousand in front. If you can help me with
Speaker 2: that upfront, I can figure out a way get me
Speaker 2: out of here, and I can. I could scrape up
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck else. I gotta scrape up and make
Speaker 2: it make sense. And as soon as I'm back on
Speaker 2: my feet, I'm gonna pay you back. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like whatever you wanna be like nigga, and
Speaker 2: Nigga sent it before I can hang up the jail phone,
Speaker 2: like yeah it was it.
Speaker 1: Was d Let me tell you something that is.
Speaker 2: That's why like a nigga, I ain't gonna lie like
Speaker 2: a nigga can't really Nigga can't really say nothing bad
Speaker 2: about dude to me, Bro, it ain't a time where Nigga,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to war for dude because he didn't
Speaker 2: have to. He ain't have to, bro, Like the nigga
Speaker 2: got kids, he got responsibilities, got a wife, he got
Speaker 2: a household, and he's the song provider for like Nigga,
Speaker 2: Like you didn't have to go and I don't get
Speaker 2: it was three thousand. I don't give it was five thousand.
Speaker 2: It was three hundred my nigga, whatever it was, nigga,
Speaker 2: you win your pocket and you send it. I don't
Speaker 2: know what your financial standing was at the time. I
Speaker 2: don't know what you had going on, what responsibilities you had,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Who knows, But you didn't
Speaker 2: make it. Wasn't you. It didn't matter. You said what
Speaker 2: I got you and nigga before I get off that
Speaker 2: jail phone, I'm like, I'm like, you think you think
Speaker 2: you think nigga help us out, like ship, you can
Speaker 2: call that nigga, but I'm gonna send you what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna send you right now. You can try to call
Speaker 2: that nigga and I'm like, I don't be like, I
Speaker 2: ain't gonna call you, you know, Like, yeah, I'm gonna be wrong.
Speaker 2: Though there's been a time where I did where I
Speaker 2: did and Nick came through for that.
Speaker 1: I've asked Nick for money, but let me just tell
Speaker 1: you something. There's always accountants that I got to talk to,
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 2: Never go to the accountant Nick. Nick. Nick treated me
Speaker 2: like a little bro and was like, I'm gonna Apple
Speaker 2: pay you when I never discredit like I said, like nigga,
Speaker 2: he out of Yeah. So waited that mentor, but what
Speaker 2: he called him and said, hey.
Speaker 1: Nick, I need you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the nigga. The nigga was there for me.
Speaker 2: And he not only did he give me, somebody said, hey,
Speaker 2: look IM about to come and put you in this movie.
Speaker 2: Get you a couple of extra dollars in your pocket. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like quick fast, like nigga. And like I said, like,
Speaker 2: I'm appreciative of that, like nigga. Fuck fuck the mentorshipga.
Speaker 1: When I needed you, it was there for me. And
Speaker 1: now you're doing willing out and you guys are working
Speaker 1: together consistently.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, So.
Speaker 1: Where do you see yourself going from here? Like what
Speaker 1: is the plan?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: And and is there really can there ever really be
Speaker 1: a plan in this entertainment business, because I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm say, yeah.
Speaker 2: This should be so iffy dog like unless you're a
Speaker 2: nigga with like unless you're a nigga with like a
Speaker 2: like a Kevin Hard or like a Nick where you
Speaker 2: got a production and you can you can go and
Speaker 2: put some money behind what you want to do it.
Speaker 2: It's really hard to have a plan for this side
Speaker 2: of the ship, Like you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: I said, then, my real love is music, like if
Speaker 2: the person has me what my playing myself at selling
Speaker 2: arenas doing what I really and genuinely truly love to do.
Speaker 1: That when you say music like rap music or okay,
Speaker 1: so like.
Speaker 2: That's that's always been me and like because for me,
Speaker 2: like when I rap, it gives people an inside and
Speaker 2: looked like y'all have seen, y'all know that y'all fell
Speaker 2: in love with these roles I've played. Y'all have seen me.
Speaker 2: Y'all claim y'all seen me grow up, but not really,
Speaker 2: y'all seen the roles I played growing up, But y'all don't.
Speaker 2: Y'all didn't get see me. Y'a didn't go home with
Speaker 2: me when the cameras went off, y'all didn't see y'all
Speaker 2: didn't know what my reality was. Y'all just knew what
Speaker 2: y'all seen on TV. So it's like that music always
Speaker 2: gives people kind of the inside look because I'm not
Speaker 2: rapping as nobody else but Bobby. So the shit I'm
Speaker 2: talking about, the shit I'm speaking on. Should I really
Speaker 2: live through? Sh'all really did to survive? Should I really
Speaker 2: had to go through? Should I already learn from spots
Speaker 2: where I already bumped my head, like that's giving the
Speaker 2: people the chance to really get to know me. And
Speaker 2: I feel like that's important for people to really know
Speaker 2: who Bobby is because so many people haven't misconstrued based
Speaker 2: off of what y'all watched me do on TV for
Speaker 2: the longest time, Like they just think, oh, this nigga
Speaker 2: was a silver spoon kid.
Speaker 1: He had it all good, he was, especially when you
Speaker 1: start that young.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, Nigga think it's all good.
Speaker 2: You know. For one, Listen, you don't get in Hollywood
Speaker 2: right now, just get rich immediately twenty years ago when
Speaker 2: I started, you really, they wasn't giving out money. How
Speaker 2: they giving out now, Nigga's becoming a millionaire in a year,
Speaker 2: Like year year top. You do some cool shit on
Speaker 2: you get a buzz on the internet, you're a millionaire
Speaker 2: immediately there in there. If not a millionaire, you damn close.
Speaker 2: They gonna keep you pumping and working, and like the
Speaker 2: internet is so powerful now. The Internet was just becoming
Speaker 2: a thing when I came up, So it wasn't like
Speaker 2: and you couldn't go and you couldn't go and grab
Speaker 2: your own audience. The only time you had an audience
Speaker 2: is when then people put you in front of one.
Speaker 1: And even with the Internet, I noticed it's like how
Speaker 1: fast you take to it? Like the new, the new
Speaker 1: uh whatever, drop, It's like you gotta switch over. It's
Speaker 1: a very tricky thing because now it's like it's industry
Speaker 1: versus Internet. Don't you kind of feel like that. It's
Speaker 1: like motherfucker may get cast it because he has two
Speaker 1: million followers or you know, like it's kind of weirder.
Speaker 2: Certain and certain situations. But there's certain people that be
Speaker 2: like that. I feel a genuinely talented that are on
Speaker 2: the Internet, and I feel like they deserve.
Speaker 1: Of course a lot. You know, a lot of those
Speaker 1: people work very hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sticks absolutely so, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: you built that audience. You you worked hard at what
Speaker 2: you You mastered that internet ship and then open the door
Speaker 2: for the industry. How can I be mad or feel
Speaker 2: like you you did less work than me? Your work,
Speaker 2: The work was just different work. I want to say
Speaker 2: you did less work, You just did different work than me.
Speaker 1: Now, if times ever get rough, God forbid, are you
Speaker 1: ever gonna be open to taking a regular job?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You think so?
Speaker 2: I don't got like I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: I'll take a risk to you.
Speaker 2: I got kids, I gotta I gotta sing, and they
Speaker 2: got a daughter on the way in two months. Like nigga,
Speaker 2: it ain't even about me. It's bigger than me and
Speaker 2: my pride. They gotta eat, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it's like fuck that if if it get if
Speaker 2: it gets to that, man, hey sign me up. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna give me a regular a good regular job.
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna try to go I'm gonna go work
Speaker 2: at McDonald's. Of course, I'm don't go work and go Damn.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be the clerk of Walmart.
Speaker 1: Yah, you're gonna work.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna be bagging nobody's groceries at ralfs. But
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get me a motherfucker job where I
Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, I can go and I can make
Speaker 2: ends meet and make sure I'm good and then shop
Speaker 2: when ship back popping again and be back popping again.
Speaker 1: And now do you, uh, do you feel a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure being famous or more well known facially like
Speaker 1: and then to keep up the status of the financials
Speaker 1: like I used to.
Speaker 2: I used to, but the older I've gotten And the
Speaker 2: more I've seen niggas, I've seen more niggas looking like
Speaker 2: they got it and not having it than I've seen
Speaker 2: niggas looking like they got it and actually having it.
Speaker 2: Like Nick don't put on no jury, let's tim camera's
Speaker 2: roll and Nick don't come in with no watching seven
Speaker 2: chains on until it's time for us to say actually
Speaker 2: wild wild Like Nicka the motherfucker's house shoes, Nike sweat
Speaker 2: suit and he got more money than everybody we work with. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like it's a lot of niggas who I see like that,
Speaker 2: like Nigga, like niggas like uh, Gilly the kid Willow
Speaker 2: like them. Niggas ain't coming out them niggas they got
Speaker 2: their getting in bag. Nigga's not coming out just hella hella, hella,
Speaker 2: flashy and trying to look like they're not wearing their wealth.
Speaker 2: A lot of people aren't wearing. When I started learning
Speaker 2: and paying attention and certain things like that, it took
Speaker 2: a lot. Like bro, I don't got to it ain't
Speaker 2: for what I'm impressing a bunch of motherfuckers. It ain't
Speaker 2: got ten percent of.
Speaker 1: What I got, Yeah for what, Like it.
Speaker 2: Don't make sense like just to show you, like, look,
Speaker 2: I can buy I can buy this shit, and yeah
Speaker 2: it's big chain, it's cuman linking.
Speaker 1: Well. I feel like now even more so now though
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not even it's a trick. We're
Speaker 1: in a different age because back then it was about
Speaker 1: the flashiness. Right now it's like you you ain't gotta
Speaker 1: have flash, but if you have fifteen thousand followers, that's
Speaker 1: your new flash. It's so weird. It's a wird.
Speaker 2: The cloud.
Speaker 1: The cloud is tricking people because there's so many people.
Speaker 1: I even know that they got two cents to rub together,
Speaker 1: but they they cloud in it. And I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: your bank account, whether you can put a roof over
Speaker 1: your head, that's really your reality, you know. And I
Speaker 1: think it's hard to live in a reality when social
Speaker 1: media allows us to paint these images of happiness and progress.
Speaker 1: And you've seen like people on social media they don't
Speaker 1: even have half the shit, and they taking pictures next
Speaker 1: to the shit, and the gas can.
Speaker 2: Live next to everybody else. And she's like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: seen it, Like I said, I learned so much. Like
Speaker 2: I said, That's why I'm thankful for my down years,
Speaker 2: because it taught me so much. It built character, It
Speaker 2: built It made me the man I am today to
Speaker 2: where I can stand before people be like, Bro, that
Speaker 2: shit don't make me like it. Don't that shit don't
Speaker 2: mean a thing to me. I could be broken. I'm
Speaker 2: the same nigga. I could be up one hundred million.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the same nig I'm still gonna stop
Speaker 2: and roll and talk to I'm gonna treat the bomb
Speaker 2: on the side of the highway just like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: treat the Boston Viacon. How you doing, good? God, bless
Speaker 2: you much respect, much love. I'm not gonna treat nobody
Speaker 2: no differently. Everybody is equal to me. We are humans.
Speaker 2: We are trying to figure this out, this thing called life.
Speaker 2: We're all trying to figure it out every day. That's
Speaker 2: the every day. That's the every day struggle to everyone's
Speaker 2: share trying to figure this life. Shut out even the
Speaker 2: richest motherfucker still trying to navigate through this life shit.
Speaker 2: Because like you have all the money in the world, Yo,
Speaker 2: your loved one die. Is that all the money you
Speaker 2: can't buy their life back? You die. You can't go
Speaker 2: and like bank take all my money and bring me back,
Speaker 2: It don't mean Shit's piece of paper that they print
Speaker 2: up and they and they add value to it, and
Speaker 2: that value that they put on that piece of paper
Speaker 2: controls us. And that's crazy to me. It's like fuck
Speaker 2: that that that shouldn't control you or your way of
Speaker 2: thinking because that that dollar is just like they saying
Speaker 2: that nigga, the US dollar about to be worth shit.
Speaker 2: Then what when they say that motherfucker ain't worth nothing?
Speaker 2: What what is the nigga with a hundred bion dollars do?
Speaker 2: Then when they say that on hundred million ain't worth
Speaker 2: a bitch ass thing no more. All you got is
Speaker 2: what you stand for. All you got is the principles,
Speaker 2: the the way you made people feel, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, the way you treated people. That's athing's gonna last.
Speaker 2: Like when you're dead and gone, nobody don't give a
Speaker 2: fuck about Oh, that nigga died with a hundred million.
Speaker 2: They'm like, bro, that nigga treat That nigga was a
Speaker 2: good person, That nigga treated everybody with respect, That Nigga
Speaker 2: looked out for his people. He showed genuine love to people.
Speaker 2: He wasn't no arrogant asshole type. Of person that people
Speaker 2: gonna remember. Nobody remembers how much money motherfuckers like Prince
Speaker 2: and Mike had, That's not remember. What's remembered is the
Speaker 2: art that they left us, the mark they made on
Speaker 2: people's lives, and the impact they made on the culture.
Speaker 2: Like that's what remembered that the rest of this It's.
Speaker 1: Funny because I don't even listen to Princess music. Really,
Speaker 1: I was obviously later, But I will say though, the
Speaker 1: impact that he made on even the music industry speaking
Speaker 1: up against you know, like owning yourself, was like, that's
Speaker 1: the legacy he left was like that brotherhood and he
Speaker 1: taught that.
Speaker 2: He was one of the first people teaching and preaching ownership, yeah.
Speaker 1: In your art, And that was like, and look, we
Speaker 1: didn't even listen to his music, but guess what we
Speaker 1: walked away with his principles. Right, So that's definitely true.
Speaker 1: What advice would you give to someone that is coming
Speaker 1: up in the game, hitting hitting their heads and then
Speaker 1: I have one more and then we out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you coming up in this motherfucker, you you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? You you bumping your head, you
Speaker 2: slipping and falling, You can't get man, listen keep at it,
Speaker 2: keep at it. Everything is learning experience, trust God's timing
Speaker 2: and not your own time. You know what I'm saying, Uh,
Speaker 2: just just just stick to it man. Like nothing like.
Speaker 2: You got people that are overnight sensations, but guess what,
Speaker 2: they lose it overnight. Then you got people who work
Speaker 2: twenty years and they get that boom, they get that hit,
Speaker 2: and they lit for the rest of their life. Everybody's
Speaker 2: story different, everybody's journey different. Don't think because one person
Speaker 2: made it this way that that's your way. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Just stick to what works for you
Speaker 2: and stick to doing what something do. Do what you love.
Speaker 2: Don't do what you think is gonna make you rich,
Speaker 2: Don't do what you think it's gonna make you famous.
Speaker 2: And have you lit. Do something you love. You put
Speaker 2: some effort into something you love, like and really push
Speaker 2: forward to do something you love. The money and shit
Speaker 2: like that gonna come. That shit gonna come. That shit ineedible.
Speaker 2: They print that shit every day, even on Sundays on
Speaker 2: the bank close, they printing that shit. You can always
Speaker 2: go get you some money, man, Do something you love,
Speaker 2: don't be doing some shit you don't love, and just
Speaker 2: doing it just for the money or just some shit
Speaker 2: that's just driven by you wanting to be rich or
Speaker 2: you wanting to be well known, because it's not gonna
Speaker 2: you're gonna get You're gonna get the well none even
Speaker 2: get it. And then it's gonna be like, now what
Speaker 2: do I do with it? Now that I'm here, You're
Speaker 2: gonna be like, where's the what's the you mean like
Speaker 2: I have no knowledge of what to do with and
Speaker 2: how to keep this ship and how to maintain this
Speaker 2: shit because I was only doing it to get this shit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So if you if you up and coming in, keep
Speaker 2: at this ship and do it because you love it,
Speaker 2: don't do it because you feel like you it's gonna
Speaker 2: it's gonna be the only way to survive. Like, no, don't,
Speaker 2: don't base it off a survival man, base it off
Speaker 2: of love.
Speaker 1: Bro speaking of survival lot, I really want to get
Speaker 1: into this part because I don't think it's talked about
Speaker 1: enough on one of the recent episodes that someone touched
Speaker 1: on this. But I really want to highlight this part
Speaker 1: because because of the fugazis in the world, which is
Speaker 1: money in the industry, Like one minute, you're up one minutes,
Speaker 1: you're down as a person that is riding the wave
Speaker 1: of the unknown, but believing in themselves. You're in this,
Speaker 1: You're you're already on the roller coaster. How are you
Speaker 1: managing your finances? Are you setting budgets and then just
Speaker 1: saying don't go over it? Are you doing reserves like
Speaker 1: I want.
Speaker 2: To get it. That's kind of where I'm at right now,
Speaker 2: setting budgets, trying to make sure, Okay, this is what
Speaker 2: this is what I need to spend on me, this
Speaker 2: is what the response abilities this is. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean, I put this to the side because for
Speaker 2: my son, my daughter, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to just figure out, not really figured out, but
Speaker 2: that's what I mean with just budgeting and the pecking
Speaker 2: order of what's the most important, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, you always do, you always do
Speaker 2: for you always take care of yourself. But what's more
Speaker 2: important than what things and causes are bigger than you,
Speaker 2: Bigger than keep keeping my keeping my kids, make sure
Speaker 2: my kids is good. That's the biggest things. So like
Speaker 2: you get those things and you put that over here
Speaker 2: and in tier that's like tier one, that's Tier one,
Speaker 2: that's top tier, that's what's on top. And then you
Speaker 2: got tier two, uh you know what I mean, groceries
Speaker 2: and making sure your house is filled with things that
Speaker 2: you need and necessities. And then you get the tier
Speaker 2: three like okay, yeah, tennis shoes and ship like that
Speaker 2: when it makes sense, don't just go out buying. Don't
Speaker 2: go out on the five thousand dollars shoe shoppings because
Speaker 2: you know you can afford to do it, because at
Speaker 2: any given moment that five thousand and you just spend
Speaker 2: on Michael Jordan's shoes. Michael Jordan's gonna get you a
Speaker 2: dam of it back if you fucked up. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: can't call like, look, Mike, I just bought every shoe
Speaker 2: this year, and now I can't pay my rent or
Speaker 2: I can't get my son done for Christmas? Can you
Speaker 2: can you spot me five thousand and then you know
Speaker 2: I'm about some more shoes next year? Mike, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: can't do that, bro. So so that's Royn May with
Speaker 2: like just budgeting and making sure like even though the
Speaker 2: account says this, that don't mean spend that. I don't
Speaker 2: give a fuck. The account may say one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: account may say eight account, mat say twenty thousand, count
Speaker 2: may say according me whatever it say, That don't mean
Speaker 2: you got to spend that. Figure out, figure out a
Speaker 2: way to keep most of that for a rainy day.
Speaker 2: Because I don't seen a lot of rainy days, and
Speaker 2: a lot of my rainy days because of poor money management.
Speaker 2: I had to call on others and be like, hey,
Speaker 2: help me out, you know what I mean, and come
Speaker 2: on wrong like somebody to be thirty years old. Ain't
Speaker 2: that shit ain't fly? Like shit ain't fly my nigga
Speaker 2: be calling on them? Amen, Uh, can you can you
Speaker 2: send me a thousand dollars until I till I can
Speaker 2: figure out something for the next week? You help me
Speaker 2: pay my rent? Like nah, brother, that ain't fly.
Speaker 1: No cool, it's not. But hey, you see the girl,
Speaker 1: You see the learning lessons, you see the stability. Now
Speaker 1: now you're ready for every next hurricane if it comes.
Speaker 1: I've learned that like change is challenging, but it's you
Speaker 1: can embrace it. Hard stuff is challenging. You can embrace
Speaker 1: it and try your best to handle everything in love
Speaker 1: and grace. That's like my thing. Just loving.
Speaker 2: Don't give you more than you can handle.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 2: It just don't. God don't put more on you, and
Speaker 2: you can handle the universe whatever you believe in God.
Speaker 2: I believe in God. God don't put more on me
Speaker 2: than I can handle. So me knowing that I face
Speaker 2: everything head on if I if I fuck up, all right,
Speaker 2: what am I gonna learn from this fuck up? Because
Speaker 2: I can't unfuck up? Yeah, and I'm going to fuck
Speaker 2: up a million more times in life because life is
Speaker 2: a constant learning experience. Like that's just how this shit goes.
Speaker 2: So it's like, don't get down there and sell. If
Speaker 2: you fuck up, you make a wrong turn, figure out
Speaker 2: how to get back to the road you was on
Speaker 2: and get back on the path you was headed in.
Speaker 2: It ain't that hard. It takes it just you gotta
Speaker 2: want to for real, you gotta want to get back
Speaker 2: on the right path. You gotta want to do the
Speaker 2: right things. That's all it is like. And once you,
Speaker 2: once you really and truly and genially want that in
Speaker 2: your life and want that for yourself, then gonna start
Speaker 2: happening for you to make it easier on you to
Speaker 2: stay on the correct path. And That's where I'm at
Speaker 2: now because I make I make certain decisions differently. I
Speaker 2: do things a lot differently. So now life, life is
Speaker 2: a little easier for me to stay on this path.
Speaker 2: It's not as it's not. It's not as easy. It's
Speaker 2: easier for me to stay on the path than it
Speaker 2: is for me to veer off into some bullshit when
Speaker 2: it used to be reversed because I was so like, man,
Speaker 2: I was so eager. I mean, it's so easy to
Speaker 2: be like, man, fuck this shit. I'm just gonna go
Speaker 2: and give me twenty pounds a week and flip it.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm gonna go get me
Speaker 2: this and do that, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 2: where I was in Like, bro, nah, when you tell
Speaker 2: it like I fuck that. I'm gonna figure out some
Speaker 2: other ways and to stay on this path right here.
Speaker 2: Then it becomes easier when you really truly want to
Speaker 2: stay on that path.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, for sure. I agree. So where
Speaker 1: can everybody keep up with Bobby Jay Thompson.
Speaker 2: I'm on Instagram? I really don't. I'm not a big
Speaker 2: Twitter dude. I'm catch me on Instagram. That's really my
Speaker 2: only soul. I said, I can't get jiggy with the
Speaker 2: social media shit to where I got seven different pages took.
Speaker 2: It's on Facebook, man, I am underscore King Bobby J's
Speaker 2: Bobby spelled b O b b E. I am underscore
Speaker 2: King Bobby J. That's where you can keep keep up
Speaker 2: with me everything as far as me new episodes of
Speaker 2: wild'n Out, new music dropping. I'm gonna drop an EP
Speaker 2: in February, so just just just keep up with me, man,
Speaker 2: see me be a dad. I'm on there, man, I'm
Speaker 2: just that's where. That's where you catch me. On Instagram.
Speaker 2: I showed what I want to show, but you might
Speaker 2: catch some cool ship from down to time. I catch
Speaker 2: my son, you know. All right?
Speaker 1: All right, guys, thanks for listening to another episode of
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Speaker 3: Peace Out.
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