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Speaker 1: to Vikings fans. Welcome into the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Tatum Everett. I am your host today. However,

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Speaker 1: this is a very special episode. It's a little unique.

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Speaker 1: We are going to highlight something exciting that has been

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Speaker 1: going on across the Minnesota sports landscape this week. It

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Speaker 1: is an exciting time to be a Minnesota sports fan.

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Speaker 1: With two superstars as the faces of the NFL and

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Speaker 1: the nb If you haven't seen it by now, Justin

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Speaker 1: Jefferson and Anthony Edwards recently recreated the iconic Randy Moss

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Speaker 1: and Kevin Garnett photo. Vikings writer Lindsay Young sat down

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Speaker 1: with ESPN's Jamal Collier, who was behind this iconic recreation.

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Speaker 2: Jamal, the kind of the original photo with Garnett and

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Speaker 2: Moss really became super iconic, especially here in the Twin Cities.

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Speaker 2: What was sort of your personal background on that original photo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, growing up, just the photo, I don't even remember

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Speaker 3: in my mind and from my childhood, just because those

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Speaker 3: guys were both just the cool like they're cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they were the epitome of the two cool athletes, you know,

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Speaker 3: Moss and everything football wise, like you know, you can't

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Speaker 4: Sport now it out trying to moss them, you know.

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Speaker 3: And KG was always like this huge personality and like

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Speaker 4: And that was I think that.

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Speaker 3: Seeing those two in that space as young black athletes

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Speaker 2: What impact, if any, do you think it made that

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Speaker 2: Jarnett decided that he wanted the two of them to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, it does. It's one of the things

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Speaker 3: were looking back on the photo that is one of

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Speaker 3: with KG and the national trash talk involved there. But

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Speaker 3: it's probably something that as a kid, I think the

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Speaker 3: if you didn't pay attention, then you see it again

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Speaker 3: and you say, wait, that's also a cool detail to notice.

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Speaker 4: And they're also cool jerseys as well.

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Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit just about about your process

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Speaker 2: as far as how did this recreation come about, how

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like everybody else, I had seen the call

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Speaker 3: forces for the story for me was why, like, why

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Speaker 3: where you thought maybe they could be the ones to

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Speaker 2: Full disclosure, this might just be a curiosity question from

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Speaker 2: Were you able to connect at all with KG or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're trying. Sures, we're trying, and I hope better

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Speaker 3: I think KG has got more of a chance than Moss,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be cool, That would be cool.

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Speaker 2: I guess in what ways, if any, did you do

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Speaker 3: It was interesting to hear from Justin that both those

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Speaker 2: That when it came time to actually doing the shoot,

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Speaker 2: getting things going. How did you see maybe an existing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I had heard that, you know, Ant and

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Speaker 3: Justin had posted as some notable timber Wolves games, especially

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Speaker 3: was interesting to see their personalities be able to work together.

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Speaker 3: I mean, And is a brash and outspoken and we'll

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Speaker 3: that and then talk about, you know, who could play

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Speaker 3: And I think we talk about the jersey swap and

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Speaker 3: that those two also swap jerseys because Justin played basketball

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Speaker 4: So I thought there was a natural.

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Speaker 3: somebody's gonna say that, yeah, I could have went pro

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Speaker 2: I wasn't at the shoot, so excuse my ignorance, but

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Speaker 2: I'm curious which Timberwolves jersey you guys went like if

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Speaker 2: kind of talked through your choice on the jerseys for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: We're using the Timberwolves upcoming jersey that they have been

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Speaker 3: It is all black, and I think just like having

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Speaker 3: the purple Vikings, you know, is in the original photo

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Speaker 3: PHOTOSWAP and it is just kind of such an iconic

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Speaker 3: And you'll see, you know, they pointed out like in

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Speaker 3: the original photo you see like kind of hoop ear

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Speaker 2: I like how you mentioned how Justin had previously played

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Speaker 2: basketball and then so I'm curious with him specifically putting

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Speaker 2: on that basketball jersey, Like, did any different side of

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Speaker 2: him come out? Did he have fun with that?

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Speaker 4: What was that?

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Speaker 3: Like? Well, you know, giving away more of the shoot here,

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Speaker 3: but they are There was a portion of the shoot

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Speaker 1: Fans have been waiting for this recreation since twenty twenty,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I mean, just you know, just thinking

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Speaker 5: Uh, and you know, people wanted me to recreate, uh,

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