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Speaker 3: It was an upset for the Ages yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It was in Largemar because Taylor, our executive producer, went

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Speaker 1: to North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Carolina was up nineteen, but.

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Speaker 1: VCU came storming back and they advance in the NCAA

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Speaker 1: tournament and their coach nice enough to join us, Phil

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Speaker 1: Martelly Junior. I have known his dad for a very

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Speaker 1: long time. I'm super happy for this family. I told

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Speaker 1: him right before we started. After you beat Carolina, you

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Speaker 1: should get out of the NBC suites and get into

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Speaker 1: a four seasons hotel.

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Speaker 3: Good morning to your coach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah we're still here. We still we stick to our roots.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're still at that Embassy suites. But it's

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Speaker 4: been good to us.

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Speaker 5: Watch. I'm a you know, I.

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Speaker 4: Come from places like Bryant where it was like what's

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Speaker 4: the cheapest rate? Okay, yeah, you're staying at that place,

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Speaker 4: Like I don't know if we can stay here and like, now,

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Speaker 4: that's the cheapest rate to your thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do. I do, see Tailor.

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Speaker 4: Give me that evil eye like this freaking guy right

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Speaker 4: like I keep seeing that.

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Speaker 5: It is a little distracting, but it's.

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Speaker 3: Carol Helmet right behind him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, said said it was a great upset. I

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Speaker 6: am upset today. I called the a D and I said,

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Speaker 6: I want Martelli next season at Carolina's making that Martelly's

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Speaker 6: happy where he is.

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Speaker 5: He's very happy where I am.

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Speaker 4: I'm at a great place, a great university, right, you know,

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Speaker 4: that's that's that's it. I would like to have to

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Speaker 4: sit down with Belichick though, I would like to sit

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Speaker 4: there and pick his brain, you know, because obviously the

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Speaker 4: amount of games that guy's won. But yes, I'm at

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Speaker 4: a great place. Caroline is a great university, obviously a

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Speaker 4: great program. But I am very fortunate to be at VCU.

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Speaker 4: It is an incredible university and with great leadership. So

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Speaker 4: I'm thankful to them.

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Speaker 1: If Taylor was being honest, he would tell you, Belichick,

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Speaker 1: how about you win some of those games at North Carolina.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I get that. I understand that.

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Speaker 3: I understand that Mikey a had a great idea.

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Speaker 1: If you win, if you beat North Carolina and your VCU,

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Speaker 1: you should get to take their hotel rooms.

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Speaker 3: How about that lament?

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Speaker 5: That would be awkward, some awkward encounters.

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Speaker 7: I think one team's getting off the bus with their bags,

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Speaker 7: the others getting on with their bags. Yes, I don't

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Speaker 7: know where they stayed. They must have been right down here.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you this. I like Greenville, South Carolina. What

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Speaker 7: a great place, great little city, great little town. You know,

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Speaker 7: we're right downtown here. It's a good spot. It's a

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Speaker 3: It's a very nice spot. Underrated spot. Yes, what do

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering when you're down nineteen, first round of the

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Speaker 3: What do you say to your kids? How do you

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Speaker 1: And inspiring a comeback like the one they had last night.

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Speaker 4: Well, they've been really resilient from the get go. And

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Speaker 4: the story I keep telling is our second game of

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Speaker 4: do last year, they had a new coach, won a

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Speaker 4: million games, went to the nca tournament. They had a

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Speaker 4: was a Friday night, that first Friday in November, November seventh.

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Speaker 5: We went down early in the second half. We got

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Speaker 4: It might have been like with ten or eleven minutes left,

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Speaker 4: and we stormed all the way back, tied the game,

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Speaker 5: Especially second game of the year. Right, it's easy to.

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Speaker 4: Go like, all right, new coach, like what's he doing?

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Speaker 4: And you didn't play me? I didn't play not if

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Speaker 4: And it was the same last night.

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Speaker 5: You could feel it.

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Speaker 4: They were just like, we just need to make the

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Speaker 1: Is there a point in that game where you don't

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Speaker 1: say it outwardly, but are you thinking, man, this is

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Speaker 1: coach and not think like that at any moment of

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I really didn't think like that.

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Speaker 4: I just I kept thinking, like, what's the what haven't

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Speaker 4: we tried that we can we can go to We

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Speaker 4: went to our three smaller guards, you know, our wings

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Speaker 4: We went to this three smaller guards just to give

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Speaker 4: You know, I was worried about our rebounding, but those

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Speaker 4: open floor, which is where we're really good. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was always just like, all right, what what else

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Speaker 4: something different defensively, try something different on offense, a different lineup.

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Speaker 5: It really was just that all the way through.

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Speaker 3: Coach is a former broadcasting student.

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Speaker 6: I got to ask you about that moment on the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they really are awesome and I've done that a

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Speaker 4: the national stage. You know, they there's a number of them.

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Speaker 4: There's there's three young guys that they pretty much come

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Speaker 4: they go to class. And I've never asked them that question.

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 5: They're there every time. They're there every time.

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Speaker 4: Yes, those saying three guys, they drove to Davidson when

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Speaker 4: I'm like you, I'm like, where are you guys staying tonight?

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Speaker 4: Like you're not driving back? I'm like, you can't drive back?

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Speaker 4: Fortunately they did have a place to stay. I mean

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Speaker 4: they've flown out the different places again on their own dime.

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Speaker 3: So great.

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Speaker 4: He's a young lady and another another young man from

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Speaker 4: the newspaper that they've been to a bunch of practices

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Speaker 4: covering our guys writing stories. So I'm really happy that

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Speaker 4: And you know, somebody somewhere, whether it's radio, whether it's TV,

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Speaker 4: going to be really thankful they did, because they are

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Speaker 4: they are thoughtful, they are genuine, Uh, they are thorough

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Speaker 1: Tonight they should say in Youbert Davis's room, how about that?

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Speaker 3: I mean I did say. He did say that he

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Speaker 3: wasn't even thinking it. That was me dumb joke. Yes, no,

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Speaker 3: not you.

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Speaker 1: You are a humble advancer and c double a jornament.

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Speaker 1: I am wondering here as the as the son of

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Speaker 1: a legendary coach.

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Speaker 3: When you were born at Phil Martelly is his name.

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Speaker 1: But when you're born and you get to a certain

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Speaker 1: age and realize I'm Phil Martelly junior.

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Speaker 3: Like what age did you know you were going to be.

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Speaker 1: A head coach because of the name and the heritage

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Speaker 1: and because of what your dad did well When.

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Speaker 4: I was in uh, probably somewhere around seventh grade. Wow,

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Speaker 4: you know, like anybody I wanted to I wanted to

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Speaker 4: my backup playing here? And ironically, the two things that

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Speaker 5: You know, when I was in high school, I was

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Speaker 4: You know, when I was in college, I was coaching

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Speaker 4: you know, the local high school summer Leagus the Sunny

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Speaker 4: Hill League, which every Philadelphia basketball player played in, the

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Speaker 4: Narboth Basketball League, which ever Philadelphia basketball played. I was

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Speaker 5: And now I'm on the other side.

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Speaker 4: My sixteen year old Philip Stephen, he is like he

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Speaker 4: knows more than I do. Like there's most of the

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Speaker 5: And then I'm like looking at my phone, like right,

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Speaker 4: And he sees things and you know, he's still playing,

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Speaker 4: but you know he's already talking about when he's done,

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Speaker 4: he wants to coach. He wants to coach. So you know,

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Speaker 4: it's really cool to see that and kind of pass

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Speaker 4: that along. It's it's in our blood. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 4: you know, we're a basketball family. My wife played and coach.

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Speaker 4: She played in the Division III National Championship game her

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Speaker 4: senior year. Her dad's a long time high school coach

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Speaker 1: And right, so, I'm guessing she was the least impressed

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Speaker 3: In terms of family, right, yeah.

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Speaker 4: She played, So Megan played in the Division III National

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Speaker 5: They lost at the Buzzer.

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Speaker 4: My mom played on those immac a lotta teams that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, We've had that a number of times this year

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Speaker 1: You chose wisely by choosing coaching. But if you want

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Speaker 5: I love it, Yes, I love it.

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Speaker 4: That's what I listened to when I'm dropping the kids off.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm listening to all of it. I'm here for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but to them it's dreadful.

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Speaker 5: You know, well, what's better? Like, let's let's debate, let's

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Speaker 3: I feel like, you know us, I mean, did you

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Speaker 5: It's just amazing to me though, and it is. It's Philadelphia.

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Speaker 5: It's why I love Philadelphia. I will say this. I

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Speaker 3: It's a baseball town, it is, Yeah, I mean I.

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Speaker 4: Why but I do like my sport. My eight year

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Speaker 4: He's aim to me the one day, like last week,

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Speaker 5: I was like, ah, all right, I feel like I've

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Speaker 3: Uh, well you were. You all jacked up for that

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Speaker 4: Send it to send it to him. It's the next

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Speaker 6: I was impressed with Aaron Nolan in the World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 5: That I mean, we need that. We need that big time, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It was though, right that Team Italy was all born

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Speaker 5: It's the whole thing's crazy now.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's well, we see that in uh we've

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Speaker 5: Like it's like kim.

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Speaker 4: Olaijawan played for the USA back in whatever it was ninety.

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Speaker 4: It's I mean, I guess there's a lot of really

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Speaker 5: Like I love baseball. I can. I wasn't a good hitter.

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Speaker 3: You were great to get the guy from first to second.

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Speaker 4: Uh, just trying to lay one down and get it

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Speaker 3: Where are you on, Nick Sirianni And we'll get you

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Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, come on that guy again.

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Speaker 4: Like that's why Philadelphia's crazy, right, Like you look at

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Speaker 5: But it's like everything's the biggest controversy in the world, right.

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Speaker 4: He's got that bravado about about him that that definitely

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Speaker 5: Like come on, what are we doing?

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Speaker 5: What is crazy?

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Speaker 4: Because you know, being down in Richmond, I walk by

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Speaker 5: They're dysfunctional and like they just won seven in a

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Speaker 3: That sports radio though, Man, I mean that's it.

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Speaker 4: That's that's that's where we're at, and they are certainly

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Speaker 5: Like all that dude, dude did was win. Like he's

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Speaker 4: He's one of the best, if not the best all time,

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Speaker 3: Yes, tell her? You see where I'm going here.

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Speaker 3: I want you to inviuy Philmore Telly Junior on to.

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Speaker 1: Help us conduct the interview you went to that.

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Speaker 4: I was just just texting back and forth Tom McCarthy,

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Speaker 5: So we've done Tom forever. So he's where I get

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Speaker 4: Like we're looking at the schedule, my kids looking scheduleed like,

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Speaker 5: Like, what games can we get to? I'm all in that,

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Speaker 1: I know you you're not here just to win one game.

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Speaker 5: We did that with the conference tournament, right we won.

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Speaker 5: So it's really that so great, Yes, it's just that.

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Speaker 4: to tell you they love you right now, the same

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Speaker 4: people that you know, if you had lost last night,

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Speaker 4: would be telling you how much you suck, right like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: So you know, we just try to keep it consistent,

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Speaker 4: keep it even, keep everything as normal as possible.

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Speaker 5: I beg them, I begged them. I beg them.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they didn't really listen, but I begged them, like,

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Speaker 4: put your phones down and go to sleep last night, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, And that's more of a do as I say,

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Speaker 4: not as I do, because I was not I was

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Speaker 4: not asleep. I was sitting on this computer watching a film.

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Speaker 4: But that's my job, that's my role in this team.

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Speaker 3: To do you had to be on one. Yes, their

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Speaker 3: role is go.

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Speaker 5: Get sleep right and hopefully they've done that.

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Speaker 3: So great.

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Speaker 1: You want to send Taylor some VCU gears, so next

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Speaker 1: time next time you come on. He doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: Carolina football outlet.

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Speaker 4: Our football team hasn't lost in like eighty years now.

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Speaker 4: We don't have a football team, but we also don't

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Speaker 4: have a Hall of Fame coach. But yeah, if I

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Speaker 4: can find a VCU helmet or something, we'll send it.

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Speaker 4: We'll send something along.

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Speaker 3: Anything you can find, Taylor, Is this it? Guys? Are

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Speaker 3: we done here?

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Speaker 1: We're rooting for VCU the rest of the way. This

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Speaker 1: is our team, right, Yeah, yeah, I'm a VCU guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean I okay, I went to Clark University, so

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Speaker 1: I speaking of Brian College.

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Speaker 3: Yes, in the NBC suits such a Northeast guy. Hey man,

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Speaker 3: we appreciate it. I'm happy for you. I'm happy for

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Speaker 3: the entire family.

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Speaker 1: It looked like they were just as excited, if not

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Speaker 1: more excited than you were because you still have work

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Speaker 1: to do.

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Speaker 3: They were just excited that you got the win last night.

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Speaker 3: But congratulations to you, man.

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Speaker 1: It's a great story and good luck to you guys

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Speaker 1: moving forward here in the tournament.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you, guys. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Godson Company

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Speaker 2: Live weekdays at three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific.

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Speaker 9: What a Friday, What a Friday. It's always already been

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Speaker 9: here on the West coast. We're just twelve hours in,

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Speaker 9: twelve more hours to go the bracket craziness. Kentucky and

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Speaker 9: Santa Clara. Absolute classic. We're gonna make some history with

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Speaker 9: that game in just a matter of minutes. You heard

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Speaker 9: Isac Lohn crown and say the Texas Tech advances. Now

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Speaker 9: we'll see if Alabama can meet them after what's been

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Speaker 9: a crazy week. And Aaron Torres new coach, same Virginia, like,

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Speaker 9: oh my goodness, it's unbelievable. Yes, Virginia trailing by five

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Speaker 9: at the half. It's so funny because they're the anti

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Speaker 9: old school Virginia. They run up and down, they shoot

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Speaker 9: a lot of threes.

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Speaker 10: I guess they left their defense back at Charlottesville, though,

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Speaker 10: because Wright State not a very good three point shooting team,

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Speaker 10: and they hit about a million of them in the

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Speaker 10: first half.

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Speaker 9: They had eight in the first half. As a matter

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Speaker 9: of fact, right States, it's it's the game that we're

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Speaker 9: watching right now, and we'll get to the finals from earlier.

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Speaker 9: But the Ryan Odum higher from Virginia is one that's

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Speaker 9: always intriguing to me because of what he and UNBC

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Speaker 9: did to Virginia, of course, and you would like if

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Speaker 9: you were to rewind and go back to twenty eighteen

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Speaker 9: to think that Ryan Odom would end up didn't succeed

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Speaker 9: Tony Bennett, but kind of see seed to Tony Bennett.

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Speaker 10: Here's a big question. Is there a Ryan Odam curse

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Speaker 10: at Virginia?

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Speaker 9: They have not? Well, I guess not.

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Speaker 10: They won the NCAA Tournament the year after and have

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Speaker 10: not won an NCAA tournament game since. With Tony Bennett,

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Speaker 10: we thought Ryan Odam would be the guy to get

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Speaker 10: them over the hump. But right now they're down five.

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Speaker 10: I guess that doesn't make sense because they won the

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Speaker 10: championship after they played right.

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Speaker 9: Now with the Ryan Otam higher at Virginia has something

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Speaker 9: for me. Where So Urban Meyer in his early coaching

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Speaker 9: days was a grad assistant at Ohio State, and he

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Speaker 9: had talked about wanting to be the head coach at

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Speaker 9: Ohio State or maybe be the head coach at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 9: But he wins the national championship in beating Ohio State.

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Speaker 9: He wins his first one, and then he goes in

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Speaker 9: coaches the Buckeyes leads them to a national championships. But

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Speaker 9: like at the moment when they are in Arizona and

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Speaker 9: it's Chris Leek and Tim Tebow, you're not thinking that

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Speaker 9: urban Meyer's gonna lead Ohio State. But ultimately urban Meyer's

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Speaker 9: maybe biggest win of his career happened against the team

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Speaker 9: that he would ultimately coach. And I feel it's the

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Speaker 9: same thing with Ryan Odam. We've got more of those

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Speaker 9: in college sports than you would realize, sure, but the

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Speaker 9: Ryan Odom one stands out because of them being the

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Speaker 9: first sixteen seed to end up to end up upsetting

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Speaker 9: a number one. But it also shows you a little

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Speaker 9: bit of the finicky nature of it, where Tobin Anderson

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Speaker 9: when FDU beat Perdue, he ends up taking another job

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Speaker 9: out of that, which you would I would totally advise

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Speaker 9: right like that, you strike while the iron's hot, but

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Speaker 9: then he's bounced around. He landed somewhere new recently as well.

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Speaker 9: But the paths that these coaches take off of NCAA

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Speaker 9: tournament runs, it's always interesting to see where they end up.

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Speaker 9: And Ryan Odum ending up at the school that they

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Speaker 9: he beat to make history is always intriguing to me.

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Speaker 10: So two quick things. On that one, I could be mistaken,

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Speaker 10: but I believe Tobin Anderson was the person who replaced

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Speaker 10: Rick Patino at IONA, and they moved off of him

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Speaker 10: really quick for whatever reason. They're the other thing too

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Speaker 10: with Ryan Odom, which I don't let me ask you,

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Speaker 10: is I don't remember it being talked about at the time.

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Speaker 10: He talks about it now all the time, but I

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Speaker 10: guess his dad was like an assistant at Virginia for

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Speaker 10: like ten years, and he went to high school and

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Speaker 10: all that. I don't remember that it's a conversation now

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Speaker 10: that he's the Virginia head coach. I don't remember it

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Speaker 10: being a conversation when he was at when he was

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Speaker 10: at UNBC.

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Speaker 9: Dave Odams his dad, the former U was a head

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Speaker 9: coach that at Wake Forest, Yes, for a while, but

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Speaker 9: I think he was an assistant. His dad was an

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Speaker 9: assistant at Virginia for several years, and he kind of

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Speaker 9: grew up in Charlottesville. And he's done interviews where he

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Speaker 9: talks about, you know, this is the place, more than

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Speaker 9: anywhere else that I consider home, and this is the

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Speaker 9: place that I consider more than anything else a dream job.

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Speaker 9: I just don't remember that being a conversation when they

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Speaker 9: upset UNBC SO. But anyway, but right now, with the

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Speaker 9: two games going on, Virginia, the three seed in the

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Speaker 9: Midwest region, currently trails right State in that three fourteen

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Speaker 9: matchup forty three to forty one. The other game, Araz

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Speaker 9: is taking it to U Liu sixty five thirty seven

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Speaker 9: with thirteen minutes left to go. So the Wildcats in

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Speaker 9: San Diego moving on, which we expected, but we may

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Speaker 9: have a three fourteen upset of brewing. I will say this,

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Speaker 9: this is the earliest we have ever done it. Okay,

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Speaker 10: The basket Shan gets it to old way to spin.

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Speaker 3: in the march.

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Speaker 9: Spirodidas, Jim spinarkle On tbs the Kentucky basket to tie,

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Speaker 9: the Santa Clara three to lead, and the buzzer beater

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Speaker 9: to tie to force overtime. What a way to get

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Speaker 9: Friday going in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 10: Can I just say I know Spirodidas does NFL. I

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Speaker 10: don't know anything about him, but his calls just always

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Speaker 10: hit the spot, like NFL college basketball whatever, crazy crazy

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Speaker 10: crazy moment you know this was. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 10: you and I were in for Cavino and Rich yesterday.

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Speaker 10: I thought you could argue this was the most intriguing

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Speaker 10: game of Friday in college basketball because you have a

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Speaker 10: Kentucky team that obviously has had a disappointing season, and

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Speaker 10: it was kind of this weird thing Dan where I

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Speaker 10: didn't know if Kentucky fans just kind of wanted to

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Speaker 10: be put out of their own misery and have the

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Speaker 10: season be over, but the counter was they didn't want

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Speaker 10: to lose to Santa Clara. But the counter to the

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Speaker 10: counter is that Santa Clara was and is and now

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Speaker 10: was again actually a very good team. The kid Graves

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Speaker 10: who hit what was the go ahead shot, is projected

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Speaker 10: as a potential NBA player down the road. So it

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Speaker 10: was a very intriguing game. It was a trendy upset pick.

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Speaker 10: It was only about a two two and a half

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Speaker 10: point spread, and you could see why with the way

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Speaker 10: the game ended.

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Speaker 9: I find it so interesting on how then things change

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Speaker 9: in overtime and Kentucky ends up winning the contest. But

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Speaker 9: it's kind of like last night with VCU in North

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Speaker 9: Carolina where neither team had any momentum yep, and nobody

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Speaker 9: could hit any shot whatsoever in that overtime, and it

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Speaker 9: was VCU coming back from the big deficit to tie it.

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Speaker 9: But when you end up having the sort of play

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Speaker 9: then carry you over into overtime and they end up

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Speaker 9: scoring sixteen points in overtime and winning a bout five.

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Speaker 10: Yeah no, And I still think, you know, Kentucky, we

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Speaker 10: assume will play Iowa State. They just tipped off against

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Speaker 10: Tennessee State in a two to fifteen game. I still

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Speaker 10: think that is a tough matchup for Kentucky and I

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Speaker 10: don't think they're gonna win, And I think their season

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Speaker 10: will be done this weekend, and I think there will

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Speaker 10: be big questions coming out of a season where they

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Speaker 10: wear a preseason top ten team. I know I'm saying

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Speaker 10: season a lot, but they were preseason top ten team.

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Speaker 10: I still think their campaign ends this weekend. But I'll

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Speaker 10: tell you what, there would have been a lot of

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Speaker 10: angst and a lot of frustration if Otega Away did

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Speaker 10: not hit that shot to force overtime. They survived to Sunday,

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Speaker 10: and for at least one night, they have something to celebrate,

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Speaker 10: and frankly, you know a March memory. I guess if

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Speaker 10: you lose in the second round, I don't know that

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Speaker 10: we'll be telling our grandkids about it. But it was

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Speaker 10: still an incredible sequence and an incredible yeah.

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Speaker 9: And there's something a couple of things that went on

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Speaker 9: in the final two and a half seconds that I

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Speaker 9: want to get to in a second, but I do

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Speaker 9: want to stay on the Kentucky thing. You know more

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Speaker 9: about the Wildcats than I would is the talent there,

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Speaker 9: So listen, you can give me a short answer, because

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Speaker 9: it's going to lead to another one. Okay, I'll try

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Speaker 9: to be quick.

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Speaker 10: They had two season and ending injuries to their starting

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Speaker 10: point guard and their starting center. And the counter to

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Speaker 10: that is the starting center was coming off acl injury

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Speaker 10: and it was a question of how much he would

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Speaker 10: be able to play anyway this year. It wasn't a

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Speaker 10: second injury. It was just kind of a play and

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Speaker 10: it's safe. We're not going to play him. So long story,

658
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Speaker 10: or if you want to justify the regular season record,

659
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 10: you can point to two season ending injuries to two

660
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 10: projected starters. The counter to that is that if you

661
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 10: watch them game by game, they are not as good

662
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 10: as we thought they were gonna be. And I do

663
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 10: think they are one of the larger disappointments in this season.

664
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 9: Is the nil there in Lexington?

665
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 10: You know, yeah, they got a lot of money, a

666
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 10: lot of money. So the there's your answer, Yes, right,

667
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 10: that's why, and that's why. And I will say this,

668
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 10: you know, Dan, I think it's a bigger conversation about

669
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 10: college sports now is It's interesting because I do think

670
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 10: you see coaches get shorter leashes because whether the actual

671
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 10: number is public or not, we know you are investing

672
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 10: in players, and so it's just very clear if you

673
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 10: know how to evaluate develop and invest how to evaluate

674
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 10: develop at whatever. And so the NIL was there. I

675
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 10: don't think there is any reason to believe that anyone

676
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 10: one other than Kentucky spent the most in NIL this season.

677
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 10: We don't know for sure, but it was reported over

678
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 10: twenty million dollars on this roster, and so I just

679
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 10: bring it up because that is a big part of

680
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 10: why it has been seen as much.

681
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 9: What I also think we do know is the twenty

682
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 9: million that is allowed by schools to be used towards nil.

683
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 9: Kentucky's one of the few schools that has a sizeable

684
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 9: chunk going to men's basketball. Well, a lot of the

685
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 9: other schools are just like, let's just put it the

686
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 9: football and everybody else just take your scraps or I mean,

687
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 9: but Kentucky is one of the few that says, all right,

688
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 9: we will fund men's college basketball from that twenty million

689
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 9: that they're allowed to one hundred percent.

690
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 10: I think it's another very interesting conversation about college sports

691
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 10: going forward, is that I think most schools aren't going

692
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 10: to be able to be good at both men's college

693
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 10: basketball and football, and it's going to be a tough decision.

694
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 10: It's kind of funny Alabama is tipping off here in

695
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 10: just a few minutes. And it's pretty well known that,

696
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 10: you know, natoates, whatever you want to say about, you know,

697
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 10: the personnel decisions, the player getting arrested this week, that

698
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 10: he did pretty well considering that, it's pretty well known

699
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 10: that he does not have the NIL resources because so

700
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 10: much of it is going to football at Alabama. I

701
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 10: think that's certainly the case that a lot of SEC schools,

702
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 10: a lot of Big ten schools, and I think it

703
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 10: will be an interesting question as we evolve in this

704
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 10: NIL era of how many schools actually are willing to

705
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 10: invest in basketball the way that Kentucky did and will

706
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 10: continue to.

707
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 9: Stull mentioned it yesterday on the show, and I know

708
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 9: others have as well. We're living in a world now

709
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 9: where Indiana is dominating football or super successful and national

710
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 9: champions in football, and here Nebraska and basketball. There is

711
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 9: some changing of the card, but in Kentucky it's still

712
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 9: about basketball. Now. I want to talk about the final

713
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 9: two point four seconds because there are two things that

714
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 9: stand out. One of them is very near and dear

715
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 9: to my heart, how Kentucky could get that shot in

716
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 9: two point three seconds or two point four seconds and

717
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 9: Ohio State had four point three seconds out of a

718
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 9: time oh yesterday and could only get the shot that

719
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 9: they got against TCU. You don't think that these things

720
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 9: would like you're thinking to yourself, Huh, that wasn't a

721
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 9: great shot. Maybe that wasn't a great decision, Maybe that

722
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 9: wasn't a design. You mentioned the point about on the broadcast,

723
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 9: Bill Raftery questioning the quickness of Bruce Thornton. He also

724
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 9: questioned them not throwing it inbounds and calling a timeout

725
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 9: at half court where you would be able to then

726
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 9: inbound it if it would be with two seconds left

727
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 9: or three seconds left. Seeing what Kentucky did in that

728
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 9: time makes me scratch my head, being like, huh, it

729
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 9: was even worse than I thought, and now what you're seeing,

730
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 9: And it was a great job by the It was TBS,

731
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 9: but the whole CBS turner crew, the crew that was

732
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 9: doing the in game breaks where you have Adam lef

733
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 9: Goo and Jalen Rose and Bruce Pearl and Seth Davis

734
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 9: and everybody pointed out that Herb Sendek was trying to

735
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 9: call timeouts, and they did not grant him time out.

736
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 9: After that made three, Santa Clara had their three timeouts

737
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 9: room and didn't use any in the second half, so

738
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 9: they end up calling the time not getting the time

739
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 9: out granted to set their defense, and ultimately it cost them. Dan,

740
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 9: I don't want to cut you off.

741
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 10: Joshua Jefferson, Iowa State's All Big Twelve first team member,

742
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 10: is walking off cannot put any weight on his left

743
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 10: leg two minutes into a game against Tennessee State. We

744
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 10: just talked about how Iowa State will play Kentucky in

745
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 10: the next round. Don't know what the injury is, but

746
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 10: it did not look good. He could not put any

747
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 10: weight on his left leg. So I want to talk Kentucky.

748
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 10: I want to focus on the end of the game,

749
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 10: but obviously we're here to kind of keep everybody informed

750
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 10: on what's going on.

751
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 9: So I just wanted to note that, really, I mean,

752
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 9: is I mean, is the bracket opening up for Miami

753
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 9: of Ohio? I mean, like, is that what we are

754
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 9: talking about here? That bottom portion of the bracket could

755
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 9: be I mean, geez, We've got We've got a Virginia

756
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 9: team that's sitting there on the ropes against Right State.

757
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 9: You have Kentucky and Santa Clara. Maybe Kentucky was the

758
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 9: team like this is this is where we are.

759
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 10: And he brought this up yesterday, you said, it's hard

760
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 10: to see the team that's gonna beat Michigan before potentially

761
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 10: the Elite A Iowa States the number two seed in

762
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 10: that region. I thought they were the only team really

763
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 10: that matched up well with Michigan in the entire region.

764
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 10: And their best player just goes out with an injury.

765
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 10: You hope he's okay, but yeah, no, I'll tell you this.

766
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 10: I think it totally changes the complexion of the entire region,

767
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 10: and frankly, all of a sudden, it changes the Kentucky

768
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 10: trajectory as well. Of you get them, you know, you

769
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 10: might be looking at a second weekend again, first second straight.

770
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 9: Year under Mark Pope.

771
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 10: All to go full circle back to that otega away

772
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 10: three that he got off in two point nine seconds

773
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 10: when Ohio State could not do what they needed to

774
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 10: do yesterday.

775
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 9: I'm depressed.

776
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 10: No, No, it's funny because on my Saturday night show,

777
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 10: Jason Martin and Steve Disager make fun of me and

778
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 10: say I always circle it back to Yukon and so

779
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 10: you just pulled the torres and you're like, hey, best

780
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 10: best moment of the tournament. Let's go ahead and make

781
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 10: it about Ohio State. Well if no, it's true, though,

782
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 10: it's true though, absolutely laughing. It's why I started laughing.

783
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 5: Oh.

784
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gotson Company

785
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: Live weekdays at three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific on

786
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

787
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 9: Maybe it's fitting here on Stu Gottson Company that yesterday

788
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 9: at this time, I was like zerover four for the

789
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 9: start of the bracket, like true truly was. It was

790
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 9: winless to start, and the first game of the day

791
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 9: provided us with the drama with Santa Clara in Kentucky

792
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 9: in Kentucky's buzzer beater after Santa Clara's almost buzzer beater.

793
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 9: I was on Santa Clara in that game. But Virginia,

794
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 9: as you heard Isaac say, surviving than so many of us,

795
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 9: whether you're in survivor pools. I think Virginia was a

796
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 9: was a solid pick today in that three to six

797
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 9: range that you're looking for. I don't know how many

798
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 9: people were putting their money on Tennessee because of the

799
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 9: matchup against Miami of Ohio coming up and seeing what

800
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 9: Texas did to BYU, which, by the way, hey, Aaron

801
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 9: Torres called yesterday. He said, I think Texas has something

802
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 9: for BYU, and they do, and that was an exit

803
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 9: slip out of the tournament. BYU has done. The Longhorns,

804
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 9: moving on you.

805
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 10: And I also called VCU over UNC on selection Sunday,

806
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 10: and then I went back and took UNC after all

807
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 10: of a sudden done.

808
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 9: So I can't take too much.

809
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 10: Credit for I, you know, yeah, one and two and

810
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 10: six eleven games yesterday, because I also had South Florida

811
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 10: beating louts.

812
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 9: Jason Stewart, where are you on your Survivor picks for

813
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 9: today in the Friday games?

814
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 8: I'm going to bore our listeners that's still with them. No,

815
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 8: I have exactly six Survivor pools waied out over to

816
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 8: two programs Texas Tech I already have in the books today.

817
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 8: So I survived with that pool and now I'm sweating

818
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 8: out Alabama. Alabama down was it five or six points? Yes,

819
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 8: sweating out Alabama. I got Tennessee, and uh, what was

820
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 8: the one that I had to Kansas?

821
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 10: Kansas my survivor pool rule is when your second leading

822
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 10: score gets arrested with two point one pounds of marijuana,

823
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 10: I tend to.

824
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 9: Six deer clear. That's just a general yeah.

825
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 8: No, that goes back decades. They've been saying that for years.

826
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 9: My gramma actually talked, Yeah, we first started lower seeds

827
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 9: are twenty two and oh when facing a team that

828
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 9: had a player arrested with two pounds of oh wow, okay, okay,

829
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 9: that's good to know. Only the measurement was very borderline

830
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 9: two like, it was very borderline where if it was

831
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 9: I don't know, just a slight bit more, it could

832
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 9: have been a trafficking charge.

833
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 10: It was two point two pounds in the state of

834
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 10: Alabama for people who don't know. I'm sure everybody's listening

835
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 10: to I'm a weed expert for Alabama. Aaron Torres aid

836
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 10: in Holloway, Alabama's second leading score was arrested with two

837
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 10: point one pounds of marijuana, allegedly all that earlier in

838
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 10: the week. And I bring it up because according to

839
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 10: what I read online, two point two pounds requires a

840
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 10: you know, a certain charge and potential.

841
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 9: I actually think it's a minimum of ten years in prison.

842
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 9: I'm not. I think it is a minimum of ten

843
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 9: years in prison, and so he just slid past and

844
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 9: did not have that amount. I know Jason felt that

845
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 9: he was boring people talking about his Survivor picks, but

846
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 9: there was a reason. There was a destination that I

847
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 9: wanted to get to. You hear Jason's picks. They're all

848
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 9: between three and six seeds. It's something that we're talking

849
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 9: about here on Fox Sports Radio because that's where the

850
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 9: money is, where if you're trying to advance. He can't

851
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 9: knock out your ones and twos because he'd think they're

852
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 9: going to advance. But yesterday, we're sitting in this spot

853
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 9: and when the games are going on, and thank goodness,

854
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 9: Duke is in a dogfight with Siena because what we've

855
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 9: had over the last hour here is in Iowa State

856
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 9: game where I think they're up eighty two points on

857
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 9: Tennessee State right now, like it's and you mentioned they

858
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 9: lost one of their better players in the first two

859
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 9: minutes a game of the game. And this is a

860
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 9: complete blow and it's fifty five twenty nine at the

861
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 9: half right now. We just had Arizona destroy Long Island.

862
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 9: As much as we all love the NCAA tournament. The

863
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 9: one sixteen games, the two fifteen games usually don't provide

864
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 9: any drama. It's what happens in between. In the eight, nine, seven,

865
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 9: ten games we talked about are kind of coin flips.

866
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 9: So the meat of the tournament for these two days

867
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 9: really is between three and six, no doubt. And then

868
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 9: when now you're putting the extra bonus on survivor pools,

869
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 9: where a lot of people would have guess what, I

870
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 9: have a three seed, I have Virginia. Well, it doesn't

871
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 9: matter I'm losing in the second round of Tennessee or

872
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 9: I am losing the Iowa State. When you have a

873
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 9: survivor pool, that Virginia game is that much more important.

874
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 9: And I know a lot of people just bet on

875
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 9: the game straight up, but not everybody does that they're

876
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 9: in the long game pools. And so that's why that

877
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 9: was my that was my reasoning. So I know it

878
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 9: wasn't meant to bore, but what it does is those

879
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 9: three fourteen, five, twelve, four thirteen, six eleven games means

880
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 9: so much more when you're in these survivor pools.

881
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 8: Jason Stewart and also I know Aaron kind of poopooed

882
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 8: my uh Alabama pick poopo. It was a little bit,

883
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 8: a little bit of poo poo now, but I will

884
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 8: say this, it's the reason why it might. I went counterintuitive,

885
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 8: like you have to do with these survivor pools, right.

886
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 8: I chose Alabama because I'm thinking everybody's going to be

887
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 8: thinking what Aaron said, they lost their guy, so they're

888
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 8: not They're going to stay away from their survivor pick.

889
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 8: So hopefully I was in the minority. If Alabama wins her.

890
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 9: Well there was a stretch where they missed twelve or

891
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 9: fourteen shots, so you hope that doesn't happen again to them,

892
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 9: is they've got it to within two.

893
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, that was a little mean spirited jay stupoint.

894
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 9: But I will say this, I felt it was mean

895
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 9: spirited because I felt that Jason didn't want to talk

896
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 9: about his bracket. Like the Lee line is nobody cares

897
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 9: about your bracket, right, nobody can about your picks. But

898
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 9: I asked Jason about his picks, and so then he said, well,

899
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 9: this is going to be real exciting. So I felt

900
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 9: it was like, at least I felt that you got

901
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 9: him back for my point where I wanted to get

902
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 9: to that destination.

903
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 10: Okay, I do have a question that is maybe gonna

904
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 10: bore the I really feel like the survivor pool has

905
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 10: taken off in the last three or four years. Like

906
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 10: I'm not poop pooing anybody who still feels out a bracket.

907
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 10: I do feel like survivor is the new way to

908
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 10: consume this tournament. And I think in a lot of

909
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 10: ways it's more fun because you know, one one you

910
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 10: can fill out more than one whatever, but like two

911
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 10: I find like how far oh I had TCU going

912
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 10: how far?

913
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 9: And what about?

914
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 10: It's like you just got to pick one, two, three

915
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 10: teams whatever, and that's all your focus is on. You

916
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 10: don't got to worry about sixteen games a day.

917
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 9: Again, I don't know if it's boring the homist now,

918
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 9: but I think it's the one off and you have

919
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 9: a lot of intensity into it, no doubt. So I know.

920
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 9: Iowa Sam doesn't fill in a lot of brackets, doesn't

921
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 9: take in a lot of Survivor pools, but he finds

922
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 9: his own joy in it. I had a guy who

923
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 9: was in a Survivor pool, had two buddies who were

924
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 9: in a Survivor pool. One guy just basically picked all ones,

925
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 9: twos and threes, and he was still alive at the end,

926
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 9: and he texted me again, I'm still alive. I'm like, no,

927
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 9: you're not, like you're done, Like you're not going to win. Yeah.

928
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 9: I didn't have the heart to say that to him,

929
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 9: but it's like, you have no one to pick, You're

930
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 9: you're done, it's over with, You're not going to win.

931
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 9: But he was like me, I was still alive, Like,

932
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 9: wrong answer.

933
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what what it does for me as

934
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 8: somebody who almost does know uh, doesn't follow the game

935
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 8: at all. Throughout the regular season, I get uber interested,

936
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 8: in uber passionate about my Survivor picks throughout, especially the

937
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 8: more rounds we get I get, I get super involved

938
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 8: and I'm knowledgeable about these teams that I pick after

939
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 8: largely ignoring them for most of the season.

940
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 9: There's something to avoiding the land mine, right that it'sis

941
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 9: of like, so you're tiptoeing around all of these games,

942
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 9: you can find a reason to pick someone or pick

943
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 9: against someone, and that's and it's it's easy. All right,

944
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 9: we'll take Iowa State today. Well, now you're not gonna

945
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 9: have Iowa State the rest of the way the survivor

946
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 9: pool when we had yukon Miami FAU you know in

947
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 9: that final four, Like that was crazy because the people

948
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 9: who actually did plan out were screwed because none of

949
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 9: the top seeds were available for them to be picked

950
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 9: yes at at the end, and nobody was picking FAU

951
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 9: early on. They weren't picking them against Memphis. Maybe they

952
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 9: picked them against FDU because of that next round game,

953
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 9: but it was it was such a different sort of

954
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 9: feel within last year you had all number ones making

955
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 9: the final four. So there's no right or wrong way

956
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 9: to do it, but to start the three through six

957
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 9: seeds are picked by a lot of people. Let me

958
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 9: give you a good example of this.

959
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 10: I think Duke for people who are sort of into

960
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 10: it or don't really understand this is the strategy behind it.

961
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 9: Like Duke, how do you feel about Duke after yesterday?

962
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 10: Because if you watch that game, you don't feel great

963
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 10: about them making a deep run. So do you use

964
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 10: them early under the presumption that they probably can't make

965
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 10: that run. But if they do make that run, then

966
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 10: you're screwed because you used them in the round of

967
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 10: thirty two. It's just there's a lot of interesting strategy

968
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 10: when you actually break it down.

969
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 9: Decisions, decisions. Absolutely. For over forty years, tirek has been

970
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,520
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971
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972
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973
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974
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 9: should be. I do think that the NBA should take

975
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 9: these four days off. I think it would be a

976
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 9: nice break as they enter the stretch run and then

977
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 9: go into the playoffs. Interesting because I think that the

978
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 9: tournament has dominated so much there's really not a national

979
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 9: TV aspect except yes past pose the streaming service is

980
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 9: now a different story, So I take that back a

981
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 9: little bit. But ESPN's going to be broadcasting the women's tournament,

982
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 9: it does take a lit bit of a back seat.

983
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 9: So Luca has sixty last night, and it number one

984
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 9: pales in comparison because they played the Heat and Bam

985
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 9: had his eighty three point game what like a week ago,

986
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 9: So Luca's sixty kind of pales in comparison to that.

987
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 9: But the only point I want to make about the

988
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 9: sixty point thing, and it's something that we talked about

989
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 9: with Rick Buker was let's make up our mind. Let's

990
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 9: make up our mind where we are on these teams

991
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 9: and let the season play out. Yeah, because three weeks

992
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 9: ago we were talking and alluded this with Rick alluded

993
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 9: to this. We were saying that maybe the Mavericks were

994
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 9: right in doing the deal, maybe they did not win

995
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 9: the trade. But see Lucas never going to be able

996
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 9: to win. And it's not that the Lakers can or

997
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 9: can't win in the playoffs. It's the flip flopping that

998
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 9: we're having between February twenty eighth and March nineteenth on

999
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 9: how we're looking at these players, where we are looking

1000
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 9: at them and looking at the teams and taking these

1001
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 9: drastic swings, and that to me is just a little exhausting.

1002
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 9: And so last night Lucas sixty kind of goes under

1003
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 9: the radar. But I do think now people are saying, well,

1004
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 9: look at what the Lakers are doing. Look Lebron, he's

1005
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 9: accepting his role. The whole message about the Lakers has

1006
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 9: changed in the last three weeks, and I just wish

1007
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 9: we would get away with that. Let's just take a

1008
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 9: step back, Let's take it month by month. Let's take

1009
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 9: it months by months when we're actually making these decisions

1010
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 9: and our opinions about the NBA.

1011
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 10: Now, it's tough because you know, listen, we're all in

1012
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 10: the business of you know, we are quite literally in

1013
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 10: the opinion business, and you know, we turn on these

1014
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 10: mics every day and we have to be interesting and

1015
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 10: say things. But I think it's always tough finding that

1016
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 10: balance of saying what you really believe but also not

1017
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 10: being overreactionary to a single game or a single moment.

1018
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 10: And I think the NBA is so unique because there's

1019
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 10: so many games and like stuff does change, and everybody

1020
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 10: goes through a two, three, four game losing streak at

1021
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 10: some point, and so but I do think the Lakers

1022
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 10: thing is unique because they're so overcovered because you have

1023
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 10: the Lebron element, you know. I thought Rick Buker brought

1024
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 10: up a great point of you know, the conversation about

1025
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 10: Luca and you brought this up as well as two

1026
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 10: three weeks ago, is well, I mean, this is.

1027
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 9: Why the Mavericks traded Luca.

1028
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 10: I mean, and now we're starting to see the real

1029
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 10: Luca for the Lakers, and it's like, now he's back

1030
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 10: to the guy that's an MVP and all of a sudden.

1031
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 9: It's the worst trade in the history of the NBA.

1032
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 10: So it's just I just think the inventory of games

1033
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 10: doesn't help, and there's really not that much that changes

1034
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 10: game to game.

1035
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