WEBVTT - One on One: Jared Padalecki 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:17.680 I am all in moles You, I am all in 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.400 with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast Everybody Scott Patterson, 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:24.560 We're gonna talk to Jared Patta Lucky, the One and 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.360 Only Dean Forrester. Jared was a series regular. Appeared in 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.680 six and three episodes from two thousand two thousand and five. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.280 First appeared in the pilot season one episode one. Last 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.080 appearance was season five episode eighteen to Live and Let 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:40.320 Diorama UM. He was known as a new kid in town. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.479 I think he needs no introduction to the Gilmore world. 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.960 His bio is interesting. From San Antonio, Texas, he started 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.960 to take acting classes when he was twelve, He won 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.480 the Claim to Fame contest to appear in the Teen 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:58.160 Choice Awards UH. He lived in San Antonio and attended 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.960 James Madison High School. He was named ken It for 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:06.360 the year UH two thousand Presidential scholars Program. After graduating 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.720 in two thousand, he moved to l a and got 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.720 the role in Gilmore. He also went on to portray 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.560 Sam Winchester and the c W supernatural h For My 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.319 God fifteen seasons. He now stars in the show Walker 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.520 on c W. Also has several feature film credits including 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.800 House of Wax, cry Wolf, and Friday the Thirteenth. And 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:33.600 I think Jared is also uh an executive producer on Walker, 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:38.280 so he's in control over there. So very nice career 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:43.760 trajectory still uh going up into the left, as they say, 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:51.120 is he is he here? Lis bringman? Yeah, there you are. 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:55.440 How you doing, buddy? How are you? Brother? I'm good, 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.520 you're looking well. I'm feeling all right, man, I'm feeling 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.640 all right. Thank you so much for doing this. I 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:05.840 know how incredibly busy you are, and any time that 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.720 you give us is much appreciated, and we are really 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.040 really excited to have you. You have no idea that 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.079 the team is going crazy. We're gonna do all kinds 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.240 of promotion and all kinds of stuff. So thank you, 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.760 thank you very much for coming on it. So it's 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:23.240 been a it's been a minute. Man. How's the fam? 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.000 How how the boys? How? How's how's your wife? How's 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.960 everything going? They're great? Uh, Tom our oldest is ten 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.760 and he's a fifth wader. Chef is eight, he's a 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.720 third grader. And then our baby girl, Odette is five 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:42.359 and she's in kindergarten and she thinks she's got to 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.840 rule the roost. Uh, we have a we have a 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.239 I had the day off of filming, so okay, on 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:53.880 our outside of Austin, So Jennen kind of snuck out 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.519 here to get some fresh air and get out of 0:02:56.520 --> 0:03:00.520 the hustle and bustle of the city and nice. Well, well, 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.440 thank you for you know, I know how Um this 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:04.960 is an off day for me too. I'm up in 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.679 Nova Scotia shooting a TV series and the off days 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.160 are few and far between it and they're very precious, 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.760 and I thank you for sharing it with us. Thank 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:18.680 you back. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's it's beautiful. It's it's 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.840 like every every angle is a postcard up here. It's 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.400 it's it's kind of crazy. What they're there now is 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:29.680 an already into the kind of early it's starting to 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:34.400 get like fifty degrees fifty five, little windy, and but 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:38.920 but I'm warmed by the thought of Chad Michael Murray 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:47.320 being my cast mate. So let's say Gilmore Reunion Buffalo. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.360 So for him, it's like old half Yeah, that's no 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.200 big deal. That's no big deal. Um, So look, let's 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.400 get into this. We've got a million questions for you. UM, 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.680 I know we're not going to get to them all 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.640 even you know, but I don't want to keep you 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.760 that long on and off day, especially um, So let's 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.560 talk about uh and we're gonna get into Walker. I 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.720 want to hear all about it, um, because I'm fascinated 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.160 with I mean, you're executive producing it as well, so 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:16.680 you know you've got a lot of skin in the 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:22.440 game there. Um, But Skilmily your first uh acting gig 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.880 that you got hired for, not technically so when I 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.440 was a senior in high school. Uh, well, okay, I'll 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.560 go back a little bit further between my junior and 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:34.159 senior or high school. I want a nationwide contest to 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.159 be a trophy presenter at the first annual Teen Choice Awards. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.120 And that meant stood there on stage, I held on 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.000 to a surfboard and when Freddy Prince Jr. Would win 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.400 Best Kids Apprecio all that, I'd give it to him 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:47.720 and I you know, usher them off stage. And at 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.440 the after party, I met a manager who I'm still 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:54.040 with to this day, Dan Spielo. He's also a producing partner, 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.560 and he's like, hey, you know, do you act or 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.599 what I was like, Yeah, you know, I'm active in 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.240 school one speech and debate eight and plays and this, 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.600 and then I love acting, and so well, here's my card, 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.320 you know, let's keep in touch. And so I went 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:09.159 back to San Antonio, UH to do my senior high school. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.720 And then he would send scripts. And these are back 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.000 in the days of the VHS camcorders. I think a 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.599 lot of young uns it is we didn't want, but 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.360 our our friends did, and so we borrow it. And 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:25.360 I would memorize my lines, and my mother would just 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.640 hold the camp order and filmed me while she's reading 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.400 the other characters lines. And Spielo was like, I think 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.880 a talent, dude, Like I think you can work. Uh. 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.800 And my mother is a teacher, she retired now my 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.440 father is a retired accountant. And so I was gonna 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.000 go to u T. Austin where I live now and 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.680 be engineering and pre med um. And my brother had 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.120 done the same at St. Mary's and San Antonio engineering 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:54.599 premed uh. And they were like, no, this this sounds 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.000 like a pipe dream. You know, we support you, uh, 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.680 but this sounds like it's not you know, like have 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.120 a a plan. And I was like, all right, Like 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.160 I can't wait to go to Austin and hopefully build 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.680 a life in Austin and this and that, and then 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.880 I flew out during spring break of my senior year, 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:16.240 so February during pilot season, thank god, and I got 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:20.080 a pilot called Silent Witness, which was for NBC and 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.400 it didn't get picked up, and so you know, my 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.880 parents were like, well, okay, you know you did it. 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.480 You gave it a shot. And then the check came 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.240 in for the pilot and they were like, following your dreams, son, 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.599 I use the money. I used that money to to 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.240 load trip out to I put some aside for for 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:42.479 student loans and whatnot, and I drove out to California 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.960 with my papa, my mom's dad. UM stayed with my 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.240 manager in his house and did some auditions and I 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.880 think that first week or two weeks or whatever, and 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.680 these are back you remember two thousand, like if you 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:59.040 were if you were a teenage white dude, there was 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.240 a role for you and every single project that was 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.440 being made. UM, and so I got tons of auditions 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.720 that they're like, hey, this new kid in town. He 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.520 has acted all throughout school. And so I booked a 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.760 guest spot on e Er. I booked in a movie 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.720 called A Little Inside, and I booked a four episode 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.040 guest star stint on Gilmore Girls, this show that hadn't 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:25.760 aired yet. And funny enough, when I booked the re 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:29.400 recast of Dean Forrester, you know, the show hadn't been 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:30.920 picked up yet. I was just a co star, I 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.360 think at the time. And I had also been offered 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.640 this independent movie if forget that, Boys in the Round 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.120 I think it was called Um, which was like ten 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.640 times the money, and I got offered another project that 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.040 was like six times the money. And then I got 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.880 off with Gilmore Girls, which hadn't even aired yet, and 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.640 I was, you know this this kid who grew up 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.680 in a seven hair in scripfort House in San Antonio, 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:57.040 going like money, money, money. My my agent manager were 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.720 like no, no, no, no, Um. You know, we think 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.520 that the show, which I hadn't read yet, I hadn't 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.360 seen obviously it hadn't aired. Uh, They're like, we think 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.080 this show has has legs. It's a great show. It's 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:12.840 super intelligent, it's funny, it's charming, it's it's heartwarming. We 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.840 think you should do that, and so thank god, Uh 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.480 they convinced me. I was still seventeen at the time 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:23.080 to shoot four episodes on on the so show called 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.000 Gilmore Girls that hadn't aired yet. You know, a couple 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:33.199 of independent movies so young. So yeah, it's seventeen now 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:40.480 I'm yeah, I'm sixty four. So um so tell us 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.679 about the audition. What do you remember about it? I 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:48.280 remember going in and for the best of my recollection 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.680 I had already well, my first audition was with Mara 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:56.240 and Jamie Um who you may have already been cast 0:08:56.320 --> 0:09:01.880 when okay, so you went about for them, but for them, 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.360 and they seemed to love me, and I felt like 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.360 I was like, I think they really did me, And 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.000 I don't know how much of that was just their 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:12.880 lovely people and they're professional and I was legitimately a child. 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:16.240 I wasn't even eighteen years old yet. So I was like, 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:17.800 I don't want to get my hopes up because they 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:21.120 could have just been nice to me, because I'm a kid, 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:25.080 like wet behind the ears, fresh off the boat from Texas. Um. 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.360 But sure enough they brought me back in for Aby 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:32.400 and for Gavin cologne, and they also seemed to dig me. 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.800 And it was one of those classic offering rooms where 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:36.600 there were, you know, three or four of us, and 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.920 some people are acting a little hardcool and too cool 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.640 for school and acting like they already got the role. 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.079 And some of us are like, I don't even know 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.199 what I'm doing here, Like I I gonna go in 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.760 and see my lines. And so I went in some 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:49.800 my lines. I think we did it probably two or 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.480 three times. And I had a good feeling from Amy. 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.839 I think she could tell that I wasn't like I 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.000 was I was an actor, you know, I wasn't like 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.400 I didn't want to be famous. I underst said that 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.760 if I became a speciful actor, fame might be part 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:05.440 of the equation. But I was there to try and 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.920 tell a story. And I, you know, I've been acting 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.520 in school and plays and whatnot, and just delving into 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:14.320 the storytelling side of acting, not though like, hey, I've 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:20.640 got big eyes for fame and celebrity and money and stuff. Um. 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:22.400 And so I think that was kind of refreshing. I mean, 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.600 here was his kid. I've literally lived seventeen years in 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:29.200 Texas and gone to school and the pretty normal lifestyle, 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.880 which I think and Amy's mind at least, and the 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.679 rest of the game was refreshing. For Dean. You know, 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:39.280 he was kind of a smaller town minded kind of guy. 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.560 Even though his character had grown up from Chicago, he 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.480 was kind of he felt at home and stars hollow 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.200 because he was just kind of a low key guy, 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.960 and I was low key kids, so I worked out. Um. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:53.440 You know, it's one of the remarkable discoveries about watching 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.840 this show because this this the whole premise of this 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.760 podcast is that I never watched the show. I don't 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:03.800 know the show. So that's what I heart, um embraced. 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.360 I thought I had an original idea. I didn't realize 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:10.280 that they hadn't made deals with simple other story of 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:14.319 my life anyway. Um. But the thing, the thing that 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:18.400 that really struck all of us was just how good 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:22.679 an actor you are, uh, at such a young age. 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.680 What do you what do you attribute that to? Because 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.040 you're you were you're blowing us away, I mean with 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.880 because your your character had a full circle. When you 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.520 first came on, you were that sort of a little 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:37.160 bit disrespectful, tough Chicago kid and it kind of rubbed 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.600 us the wrong way. And then but then you start 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.800 you you had one of the greatest introductions, uh, of 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.520 any character I've ever seen on a TV series when 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.959 you first met Rory and it was the book exchange 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.400 and the whole thing. You were the coolest guy and 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.200 you just really knew how to play it and you 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.920 really knew how to handle it. So so, as a critic, 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.920 you know, as I um, as I can be sometimes 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.440 with other people's work, I was stunned at how good 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.400 you were and are No. I mean, I mean it's 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:10.679 like every performance that you gave was flawless, and we did, 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.720 we would discuss it. So if you ever listen to podcast, 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:17.680 you'll hear a sort of gushing about your performances. But yeah, 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.640 oh no, no, it was it was above and beyond 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.520 what anybody expected. And I was I was just like god, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.240 I never saw the show. I never realized how good 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.920 this kid was. No wonder he got this show. Um, 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:35.400 thank you, m so tell us about meeting Alexis and 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:39.480 working with her initially, what was that like? Well, funny enough, 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.720 she was also this kid from Texas who kind of 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.839 I didn't think she was going to be on TV 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.440 or whatever, and I think she'd gone to ny U 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.880 and I don't know her exact story. I'd love to 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.480 know it. But she was also kind of a fish 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.520 out of water. And so I think that was helpful 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.640 because you know, here she was seventeen or eighteen, I 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.000 thought vote from Texas. Here I was seventeen or eighteens, 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:05.600 fresh up the book in Texas. And so we're both 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.840 kind of looking around, going like this is bizarre, you know, 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.520 like what are we doing? Uh? And so I think 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.520 to go back to kind of your earlier question. I 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.679 think that's where, well, I'll speak to myself. I know 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:20.400 that's where I found my comfort zone was just acting. 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.160 I was just focusing on the story. And at the 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.959 time I got gil More Girls, it was four episodes 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.360 see you later, Like I signed a four episode contract 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.079 and I was like, well, this is cool. I get 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.160 to kind of explore a character in more than one. 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:33.680 You know, a lot of the auditions at the time, 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.240 we're sort of like, hey, you played this character in 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.640 this episode where they're looking for the bad guy and 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.640 you say he went that way, you know, and then 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.560 you're never seen again. As with this show, I was like, 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.439 oh my go four episodes like how neat and so 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:51.319 I always felt like and the best possible way, I 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.959 always felt like a guest on set for Gilmore girls. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.240 Even in the seasons where I was in more episodes 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.080 or heavier in the episodes I was in, I always 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.720 walked on the set and I felt they were like, hey, Jared, 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.480 and I don't know if you remember this, but I 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.400 was famous for how many cookies I would eat every day. 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.520 Oh that's right, that's right. And so I would, you know, 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.800 and I'm a kid trying to start my life living 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:18.120 in a rental, and so I would come back at 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:19.760 the end of the day and see if there was 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.840 leftover food. Uh, because I had kind of grown up, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.800 you know, you eat whatever you can, um, And so 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.280 I'd always wait. There'd be the big old cookie platter 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:32.320 from Hollywood Cookie Company. A funny story about them. I 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.600 don't know if they're still around. You know, I haven't 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.080 lived in l A for many, many years. Um. But 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.720 one time, I think maybe season two or three, I 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.360 was getting a lot more into fitness and I was, 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.240 you know, starting to be aware of calories. I think 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.360 it was kind of the early two thousands when it 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.280 was like avoid sat right to fat and you know, 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.960 work towards more fiber. And I called them one day randomly, 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.280 you know, their little sticker was on the platter of 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.320 cookies and I called them because I would eat probably 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.680 eight or nine cookie and they were huge. There weren't 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.200 these small, little white size. They were like, you know, pancakes, 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.320 all of them. I was like, hey, my name is Jared, 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:11.560 I'm I'm an active in town and mu cater are 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.400 are set sometimes and I was just curious if you 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.480 had like nutrition facts for your cookies. And the voice 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.800 on the other end of the phone was like, uh, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.280 what do you mean. And I was like, well, like, idea, 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.400 how many calories there are? Because I have some idea 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.720 of how many calories I burned every day and if 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.200 I need to burn, can excess me more or whatever? 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.600 And the guys like, well, do you like the cookies? 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.960 I was like, I love them because well, let's just 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.640 say this, as much as you like them, that's how 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:44.200 many calories there and uh. And so he kind of 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.000 made it clear like, hey, these are made with love 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:50.160 and butter. Uh. I miss him those white chocolate macadam. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.760 For me, it was just like exploring. You know, I 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:59.520 had long done long throughout school. I had done plays, 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.120 and I had on forensics like debate and speech and 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.080 do it acting and and I just loved storytelling. I've 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.000 always been a fan of you know, you have those 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.040 friends who are they'll start a story out and everybody 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.240 just shuts up and just wants to listen. I love 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.040 I love those friends of mine. I love people in 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.080 general who can just tell a story and you laugh 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.080 or you cry or both. And so I wanted to 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:26.320 kind of and at the time, legitimately I still I 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:31.520 had my housing assignment at UT I had the books 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.760 that I had bought secondhand, you know, because they're cheaper, 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:35.880 and I thought I was gonna make as much money 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.560 as possible and go back to school. And so I 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.080 was like, well, I'll just enjoy it what you can. 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.080 And so I think because I didn't have it wasn't 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.600 yet my career, like it was sort of like this 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:49.120 is going really well, and I took it very seriously. Um, 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.040 but I was like, man, if I can do four episodes, 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:52.720 I'm gonna make a couple of thousand bucks, and like 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.360 that's gonna help pay for my loans and all that, 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.960 and so I just worked really hard on the scenes. 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.280 That's a lot of look for a seventeen year old, 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:09.200 that's a lot of money. Money it was I remember 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.359 from whatever, I'll say it. I remember my paycheck for 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.159 episode one of Gilmore Girls. I remember exactly what it was, 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.320 and I remember it for a reason because it was 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:22.639 one Comma two three four, and I was I'm loaded, 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.040 like but I was the richest. I was the witchest 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.639 kid I knew growing up in kind of a you know, 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.480 lower middle class spot in San Antonio. And I was like, dude, 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.160 if I could do a couple of these, pay some taxes, 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.520 then I can pay off, you know, my books for 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.840 my my dorm or whatever. So that's kind of where 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.920 it was. Yeah, you came at it with gratitude and 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.280 no expectations. It's the only way to have do it. Yeah. Yeah, 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.040 And even now I come out with gratitude, and I 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.320 think totally for me, and this is I think, just 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.919 the way maybe I was raised, or maybe my genetic makeup. 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.359 I just really enjoy the work that goes into it. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:06.679 For me. Um, for me, the filming of the scene 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.679 is the least exciting part. I agree. I love the 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.520 rehearsal process. I love the rehearsal process, and I love 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:16.399 the process with or without somebody else like I to 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.720 this day. You know, now I'm four hundred and forty 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.160 episodes of television into my career or something like that. 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:26.439 And my favorite part of making a TV show is 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.760 going through it over and over again, over and over again, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.600 and then give me sething go like, let's see what sticks. 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:33.480 You know. Let's let's now I know what I've done, 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.520 we know the different pathways to get through a scene. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:38.359 Let's see how it works out. Let's see what the 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.800 other actors nationals want to do. Let's see what the 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.600 cameraman want to do. Let's do the DP and the 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:48.440 director have and let's just slow. Uh. Here's here's a 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.159 question that I have to ask, and it's one of 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.560 the it's the it's one of the questions I hear 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.719 most often. Are you similar to Dean? Where are you 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:01.679 similar to Dean? In high school? In high school, No, 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.719 I didn't have the confidence. Uh. Dean had a quiet 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:09.840 confidence from the get that I think Jared learned from. 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:11.640 You know, I was still seventeen, like we talked about, 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.639 I was still seventeen. I was a kid in every 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.560 way shaping form I you know, I'd never left the country. 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.960 I think I maybe left the state twice in my life. 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.199 Wants to drive to disney Land with my family and 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.520 wants to drive to Florida to Disneyland with my family. 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.760 And that's what I was. Pretty even though San Antonio 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:30.320 was not a small town, it's a pretty large city 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.840 against pub million, I was kind of a small town kid, 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.080 you know, Like my my life was the three mile 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.520 radius around my house. That was our grocery store, that 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.280 was my middle school and elementary school. In high school, 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:43.840 that was where I would ride my bike to my 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.640 friend's house. And so I had kind of a maybe 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.840 similar to Dean because he grew up in Chicago, but 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:53.399 he felt at home in a smaller like microcosm, and 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:59.159 so I think that was similar. Um, I certainly had similarities. 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.880 I feel like I learned a lot from Dean. Um. 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.240 You know, Amy and the Gang wrote this character that 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.959 was really lovable. I mean, he certainly had some some 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.399 hiccups along the way through five seasons, but he started 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:13.840 out and he was just like a good kid, you know, 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.119 he was a kid. Uh. And there's a scene that 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.239 I was talking about the other day with maybe one 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:21.680 of our directors on Walker, and she was like, yeah, 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:23.920 my family were always team V. I was like really, 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.160 and she goes, yeah, I mean that scene with you 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:28.920 and Laura La. We're all eating pizza and she's talking 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.960 about your motorcycle and you're saying, I don't have a motorcycle. Fine, 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:33.960 she won't ride on my motorcycle. She's like, it would 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:37.399 just seem sweet, you know, it was. It was wholesome, um, 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.280 and so I think we kind of shared that. One 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.760 of the balsiest things I've ever seen a character do 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.800 on that show is when you, pretty much I think, 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.600 first met Laurela, or was the first time you were 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.760 over for like a movie night, right, They invited you 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:56.280 for a movie night and Rory excused herself, uh, and 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.480 you were with Laurela alone, and she gave you the 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:03.800 speech and then when she was done, you didn't miss 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:08.000 a beat and you said, uh, my turn now what 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:14.120 wo wow? Well the can is on this kid, man, 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.960 I mean, and then you kind of gave your speech 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.159 and it was very impressive, very very impressive. Do you 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:23.280 do you remember filming that. I do, as a matter 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:25.959 of fact, I absolutely do. I remember we were on stage, 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:29.000 and I remember the set. Maybe it was I forgot 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:32.080 stage fourteen. It was the one that was right, It 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:34.120 wasn't the one that was across from the friends stage. 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:38.320 It was the one that was nearest to commissary. Yes, yes, 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:43.480 fourteen sixteen. And I remember platform outside movies and shows 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:47.480 that are shocked and just kind of being like oh um. 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.200 But I remember early on. I remember how early on. 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:54.600 I think it was season one off camera, you know. 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.480 And again I was a seventeen year old kid. I 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:00.040 mean I turned eighteen a couple of months into it. 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:03.600 But I was doing something, probably being some little dips, 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:08.360 and you you came. I don't remember what it was, 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.480 but I remember you were like, hey, I want to 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:12.240 talking to him a second. And I was like all right, 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:18.240 And you walked me into the school, the school there 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.840 and Stars Hollow, and you just kind of took your 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.200 glasses off and you kind of gave me a little 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:26.440 talking to. And I again I have no idea, I 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:28.480 don't remember it. I have no idea what it was about, 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:30.760 but you gave me just enough of talking to where 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:33.359 I was like, yeah, right, Like it kind of reminded 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.399 me because at that time I was just playing. I 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:37.399 was doing the same stuff I would do in high school, 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.080 person for a play for something, and so you know, 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:42.360 you kind of looking around and I think The message 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:46.680 I remember was like, hey, you know we're working here. 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.320 You know it was and it was the proper and 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:53.560 I remember kind of going like I needed that right here, 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:55.280 right now, at this age. If I want to make 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:57.439 a careerative this, I gotta remember we're not just playing 0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:00.280 like someone the studio and network are spending lions of 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:02.200 dollars for us to be here and do this. And 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.040 I remained a goofball on set. I get away with 0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:09.000 it a little bit more now, uh and whatnot. But 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:10.760 I think I was just I was you know, I 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:12.600 was never a jerk, but I think I was probably 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:14.919 just goofing around just enough for you to kind of 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:18.560 premiuside and you obviously done years of work and just 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:21.160 tell me like, hey, you know, let's tone it down 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:22.720 a little bit or whatever you said. I remember, I 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:24.679 remember the feeling of like that's right, Like this is 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:28.040 a job. All of these people are doing a job, 0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:30.320 and so that was good. So thank you. I don't 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:33.040 remember was twenty two years ago, I I do, I 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:37.480 do remember, I do, um, But you know, the things 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:41.320 I remember most about you on set were our discussions 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:46.639 about training and uh, you know, you were you wanted 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.840 to gain weight, um. And I just remember because I, 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:52.719 you know, I was like you when I was a kid, 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:56.720 just just tall, skinny, couldn't get anyway, ate like a horse, 0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.879 worked out like a fiend, couldn't get anyway. I was 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:03.280 inncerned about it, and I just remember I didn't really 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.240 know what to say to you other than just enjoy 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.760 it while it lasts, because it ain't gonna laugh. But 0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:12.840 it looks like in your case it lasted. Um. Yeah, 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:17.520 what was the season where you had kickboxing? I remember 0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:19.159 coming coming to that one time and like shaking your 0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:21.040 hand and you kind of like shook it. And you 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:25.080 had been at Crunch kickboxing with somebody. And I don't 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.719 remember what exactly happened, but I think you might have 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:30.400 like boxing fracture or something. I was like, oh my bad, 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.159 like all good, you know, but I remember, oh I 0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:36.880 had I had a bad hand or something. You you 0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:40.639 you would you would? I think maybe had a metacarpal 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:44.359 injury or something. Yeah, yeah, you were I know the 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:46.280 guy's name if I heard it. But there was a 0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:51.960 kickboxing trainer Crunch that you have been training with, Lolly. Yeah, 0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:56.240 it was the former world champion. Yes, the most the 0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:59.040 most dangerous human being on the planet. But the sweetest 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.480 guy in the world. Yeah, you need to be me 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.080 because they can back it up. Yeah. He was just 0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:11.200 like the nicest guy in the world. Yeah, So we 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:15.520 recapped speaking of fighting, uh, we've recapped your fight scene 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.800 with Milo at the high school party and a little 0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:21.280 bit ago. But you're what do you remember having about 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.520 having to film that scene? How long did it take 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.159 with all that choreography? Because it was really one of 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.760 the best and most brutal violent fights I've seen on TV. 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.920 It was so real for a show like Gilboard Girls, 0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:34.880 you know, were we weren't shooting a d C show 0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:40.040 or a Marble show where everybody's fighting all the time. Um, 0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.320 my stupman was Jake Chambers. It was at the ranch. 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.000 So we shot that at the at the One Brother's ranch, 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.520 not the lot where obviously stars hollow as you know, 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:51.359 but for the fans, there two one of Brothers properties 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:55.360 in Burbank. One is the lot where they're all those stages, 0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.080 and one is the ranch, which is really famous well 0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:01.000 for many things. But at the opening credits to Friends 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:04.360 where they're all on the fountain, and we had gone 0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.840 to one of the streets out there and shot inside 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.760 and outside. I feel like we shot it in a night, 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:14.399 you know. And I imagine you've you've commented on this before, 0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:20.120 but Gilmore Girls was known for being a long day 0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:23.640 you know, we had I remember driving off the lot 0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:25.720 on other occasions and it'd be like six in the 0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.040 morning and you know, you drive past the guard station, 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:31.240 you only window down. They're like Gilmore Girls, like, yeah, 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:35.359 like we figured, you know, crap safe. Uh, but this 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.359 I feel like this was probably you know, we shot 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:42.399 in November or December, um there at the ranch and 0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.160 probably shot you know from six pm to six ham 0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.560 or something, and was obviously super fit and uh. He 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:53.159 was also a guy similar to the conversation that you 0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:56.399 and I had in that school set. Vilo kind of 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.720 show me the ropes a little bit because again I 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:00.679 didn't like, I just stayed in my t tiler. I 0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.560 didn't know. So one time we were shooting and he 0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:04.720 was like, hey, you want to you know, we're not 0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:06.159 the next scene we have launched, you want to go 0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.159 grab by And I was like, we can leave and 0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:13.000 this is season two seven. Yeah, we just gotta be back. 0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:14.919 You know, they'll they'll text me, will call me, like, 0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:16.840 give us a half hour heads up, it was like, 0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.160 you sure weren't get in trouble. He was like, oh man, 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.040 now it's fine, and so he kind of would walking 0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.760 around and uh, let me know the ropes, because even 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.719 a season into Gilmore Girls, I was still you know, 0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.919 as you well know, like in terms of understanding the 0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.440 business in the way it all works, I was still 0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:36.000 a white belt, you know. Um that was in the 0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:39.960 way to become black belt proverbially, uh, very much a 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.560 white belt. And so Milo helped me out. And you know, 0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.680 it's it's you've done these as well. When you're doing 0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:50.400 a stunt sequence with somebody who's not super physically capable, 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.600 it's worrisome because you're like, you know, he's punched me, 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.000 your album me and I don't know if this guy's coordinated, 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.520 Like I think I'm gonna hurt. I didn't feel that 0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:02.720 way with Milo. Milo is fit and seemingly always has 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.159 been and certainly still is, and so I just remember 0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.679 being like, this is gonna be fine. Um, and then 0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.520 the whole tackle sequence out into the yard, it was. 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:12.800 It was a good time. He and I. It's funny 0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.520 because we've always gotten along extremely well. I mean, even 0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.800 from the get go where the scripts were lining us 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.720 up to be rivals on camera. We just got along. 0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.320 We're just buddies, you know. He's like, hey, let's go 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.080 get let's go get a bike. And I think he 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.439 was he may still be vegan or vegetarian. But there 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.680 was like a little weekend place and we just went 0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.080 and I was like, where's the burger. He's like, well, 0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.760 it's a she's talking mushroom sandwich. I was like, whatever, 0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:38.520 I'll take it. Uh. So it helps a lot when 0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:40.200 you when you kind of trust respect to people you're 0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.000 working with, especially in a physical sequence where you don't 0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:48.880 want to acctudentally take an eilbow to nose and right. Um, right. 0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:53.720 So the classic question that everybody wants me to ask, 0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.320 We know Matt sup he knows who Rory's baby daddy is. 0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:02.520 Do you know? Do you have any guesses? I? I 0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:07.440 don't know for sure. My understanding is that it's changed 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:15.480 a couple of times. Um I I I I have 0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:19.840 some guesses, but I don't know for sure. And you know, 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:23.560 if I have no doubt that if Matt says he 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.200 knows that he knows, but I would put it past 0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.360 the Palladinos to to change it at the last second. 0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:33.360 Maybe I do know this. I do know that when 0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.200 we did the reunion, well, when y'all did the reunion 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.280 and I showed up for a day, I was supposed 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:39.720 to be in more of it. I remember talking to 0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.600 Amy and she was like, Hey, we'd love to We're 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.000 doing this and we'd love to have you around. It 0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:47.760 was like absolutely at the time, you know, shooting Supernatural 0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:52.320 with Van Cooper and so um, basically whatever I was 0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:55.840 gonna be and got way whittled down, and ultimately it 0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:59.480 came down to we couldn't clear me on any specific day. 0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:02.320 So Ay basically told me, Hey, if you find out 0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:04.760 you have a day off, call me up, let me know. 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.400 We'll we'll do that. You know, everybody's already on set anyways, 0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.880 because we're cross boarding, and so I think I called 0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.400 her like on a Monday, and I was like, hey, 0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.520 I have Thursday off, and she's like, cool, you want 0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.239 to come down. I was like absolutely, And so I 0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:22.160 flew down Thursday morning, uh, did the refitting and whatever, 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:26.640 shot Thursday, you know, morning afternoon, early evening, and then 0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:30.520 flew back to Vancouver that night and shot Supernatural. The 0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:35.000 next morning. So, um, yeah, you can only do that. 0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:36.680 You can only do that when you're in your twenties. 0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.720 There's just no other way to do that. Who was 0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:44.920 the reunion? Uh yeah, I would have been Yeah, thirty 0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:48.320 four three five. Yeah, okay, there you go. Well you 0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:53.120 look that's not three. Uh. And I was in Vancouver 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.760 and my family was in Austin, and so you know, 0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:57.640 I can go home and go to bed as opposed 0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:03.240 to chasing kids around all that lay um So so listen, Jared. 0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.400 One of the things that I admire so much about 0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:12.640 you is the your courageous approach to sharing some of 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.360 the struggles that you've had with mental mental health issues 0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:19.320 and depression and anxiety, and I just you know, it 0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.280 really does take a special kind of courage to step 0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:24.840 up and and admit that and say that and talk 0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:28.040 about a started dialogue because it and it's hard, it's 0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.600 it's it's extremely generous to do it, because it it 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:35.080 gets the the issue out there, It gets people talking 0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.200 about it, and it gets and it gives people the 0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:40.640 courage to step forward that otherwise wouldn't. Uh. And you 0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:45.040 you inspire millions and millions of people through your work 0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.720 and now through your your your your work with charities 0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.400 and with these specific issues, can you talk about a 0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:57.720 little bit for sure? Thank you for asking. I've been 0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:02.640 very public that I've had I don't say struggles, I 0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:07.120 say a relationship. I kind of feel like, um uh, 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.640 there's a great quote that I love and it's my favorite, 0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:15.240 and it's pain is mandatory, suffering as optional. And so 0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:17.280 I like to say, we're all going to deal with pain. 0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.600 We all deal with pain, no matter if you're Elon 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.800 Musk with three billion dollars or somebody who's having a 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.920 you know, do hard manual labor for five bucks an hour. 0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:31.040 Everybody's gonna have pain. Uh choice whether or not you 0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:35.239 can make, whether that can make you suffer. And so 0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:39.560 I take my relationship mental health very seriously. I see 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.320 a doctor every week and I have for many, many years. 0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:44.840 And I think it occurred to me, you know, especially 0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.440 early on in the Gilmal Girls years. I think I 0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:52.400 kind of long had uh maybe an underlying anxiety mostly, 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.040 but depression. At times I got pretty bad and I 0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.240 just felt like, well, here I am, like I get 0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.320 to play pretend for a living. I get to buy 0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.400 a house when I'm twenty years old. With money I made, 0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:05.160 not money I wanted the lottery. You're inherited from family, 0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.960 nothing anything wrong with that. But you know, you're in 0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.320 magazines and they're going like, oh, you're the new heart 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.040 throb and this and that, you're making good friends and 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.200 you're doing what you've always dreamed. But I would go 0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:18.080 home and you know, I sometimes or I would just 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:19.920 just sit there and not do anything. And I was like, 0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:23.160 something's weird, man, Like this doesn't make There's nothing on 0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.000 paper I can write down that I'm unhappy about, Like, so, 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.320 why am I feeling so anxious? Or why am I 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.520 feeling so sad? Um? And not even Sadad's kind of 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:35.720 a funny, like you could feel sad and not have depression, 0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:37.680 you know. So this is a more like you don't 0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.480 want to eat, you don't want to go outside, you 0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:40.960 don't want to talk to friends, you don't want to 0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.040 talk to him. Like it was more of that. Uh, 0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.560 And so I looked, let gonna be like what's wrong 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.840 with you, dude? Like what what? What more do you want? 0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:51.640 Like what's your problem? Like why are you so entitled? Um? 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.239 And finally one day, uh, luckily with with a lot 0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:58.840 of great friends, and family and and the fandom from 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.480 you know, Gilmore Girls and Supernatural and now Walker and 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.560 whatever else. It was just sort of like it was 0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.520 a leap of faith just to go like, hey, I 0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:12.080 know that I'm that guy on TV UM, but not 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:16.160 all as well. Uh, And I accept that. And you know, 0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:17.880 I didn't know it was either gonna be you know, 0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.600 I never worked again in my head, you know, catastrashing. 0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:22.640 It was either gonna be like, oh, we're gonna be 0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.160 so disappointed or think you're an asshole for not being happy. 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.120 And it wasn't that. I was so happy. I am 0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:31.120 so happy with the life I've been able to live. 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:32.800 I feel like I've been able to live a thousand 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:36.480 lives in four short years. Um. But I was met 0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:40.080 with nothing but uh, you know, love and support. And 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.000 I think my main message is that if you feel 0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:47.879 like you're alone, uh, you're not. Uh. And I think 0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.279 just humans are humans, man. We all have our ups 0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.440 and downs. And if you look happy on the outside, 0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.440 you might be set on the inside. And that's okay. 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.319 You know, no feeling is final, and so just keep 0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.000 your head up and be honest about it. And I 0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.719 think the biggest deal for me was to say like, hey, 0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:07.720 I'm dealing with something and that might sound ironic because 0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:10.040 on the outside it looks like I got everything somebody 0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:12.279 could ever wish for work and I do. You know, 0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:15.399 I'm very fortunate. But it doesn't mean that your brain 0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:19.319 isn't gonna be with your brain does So everybody listening now, 0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.000 go to Jared's socials. He's got all of that information 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:29.279 on his social media platforms for organizations that can help 0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.120 out or to get involved with. And and just know 0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:37.160 that Jared's got your back, okay, because he's been through it, uh, 0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.120 and he can he can help you through it forever, 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.879 you know, to some degree. And that's another thing. It's 0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.600 just like, hey, if your brain does this instead of 0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.200 doing that, then that's just gonna it's gonna be something 0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:51.319 you have a relationship with, but you don't listen to it. Right, 0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:53.960 It's real and it should be dealt with, and it's 0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.319 nothing to be ashamed of. It's just, you know, takes 0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.880 a little bit of courage to step up and admit 0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.640 it and get some help. Yeah, and you'll be surprised 0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:07.360 by the outpouring of love and support. I was anticipating judgment, 0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.560 you know, I was anticipating like, oh, that guy's broken, 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:14.960 and it was the opposite. It was the right, wonderful, 0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:19.919 very very very inspirational. Um, Um, let's talk a little 0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.640 bit about Supernatural is a huge part of your life, 0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:28.920 A huge part of your career was a fifteen season run. Yeah, 0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:35.759 we had a four month hiatus, moth hiatus, so mega hit. 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:41.800 Uh Supernatural Uh being part of the c W family 0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:45.680 for twenty years. Uh, and now uh tell us a 0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:50.120 little bit about, um, what that experience is like for you, 0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:54.320 being more than two decades on a single network and 0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:59.640 and Supernatural and uh we Uh, Supernatural was c W 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:02.680 for the CW was even CW. You know, our season 0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.800 one was w B. As you remember, Gilmore Girls was 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.560 w B, and then season five, I guess went to 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.839 Popper six went to CW. So Supernatural was for many 0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.759 years the only show on television that was older than 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:20.040 the network that aired it. We had a lot of 0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.399 we had a lot of scares. You know, when Warner 0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:26.080 Brothers in upn merged, we thought, up, we're done. And 0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:30.399 then when the president of CW change, We're like, we're done. 0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:33.080 And then when the writers trike happened, you've got app 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:35.440 were done, and then we were kind of just as 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.959 a little show that could that had this really much 0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:42.400 like Gilmore had this very very dedicated audience. You know, 0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.319 like I've I've met fans of Gilmore, girls who will 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.000 come up and mentioned some things to me about the 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:49.799 show or a question or what do you think about 0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:51.759 this or that, or hey, I love this scene, and 0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:55.040 I'm like, I don't even I filmed it, like I rememorized, 0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.319 they worked on it, filmed it, uh and I don't 0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.960 even recall that. And similar with Supernatural, and it was 0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:04.279 a super just call it super super was a really 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.000 magical show of massical experience. That's where I met my wife. 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.440 She was on season four. Um and somehow another I 0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:14.120 didn't I didn't piss her off enough to say no 0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.560 when I asked her out on a date. Uh. She's 0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:21.000 probably regretting it now. But I've met great friends, um, 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:24.440 people that consider beyond friends, you know, their family and 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:28.640 really got to explore. I feel like Supernatural is where 0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.080 I learned, where I earned my black belt. You know, 0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:33.960 I had to do everything. I had to play humor, 0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.120 I had to play a drama. It was a thriller, 0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:38.640 but you had to be the big brother and the 0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:42.120 little brother. I played different character. Stam would get possessed 0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:47.440 or um Sam would be you know, dying from something. 0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.960 So I really anything there is to do on screen. 0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:55.120 I did it on Supernatural and huge blessing and our 0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:59.640 fandom is outstanding, you know, we see we got to 0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:03.080 convince ins on weekends and I see based in the 0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.279 audience that I've seen for over a decade, you know, 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.879 so I didn't feel like it didn't feel like star fan. 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.799 It feels like, hey, like longtime friends that happened, but 0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:16.120 fashion about this that aired for a while. It's like 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.319 going to a concert or seeing somebody in a bar 0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.240 that has a Pearl Jam shot on and you're like, dude, 0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:24.520 have you seen him live? Like yeah, Like it's it's 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:27.360 a shared passion for seeing like a Dallas Cowboys jersey 0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.239 on somebody mewing like how about them boys? You know, 0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:32.200 and you have an immediate kind of kinscha um. It's 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:35.200 been a huge blessing. Yeah, I mean I I have 0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.839 seen Pearl Jam a couple of times live and it's 0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:43.719 it's quite something. Actually, it's a very serious evening, but 0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:49.480 it's uh, it's cathartic to say the least um um. 0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:54.200 Uh So, you're Supernatural co star Jensen Accles and I 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:55.960 just call him Accles. I don't think I've called him 0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.920 Jensen in twelve years. So he's got a show, The Winchesters, 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.920 premiering soon. It's a prequel, is Supernatural? Are you excited 0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:06.560 to s? Yeah? And I saw him. I was just 0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:09.040 with him this past weekend in Kansas City and the 0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.719 weekend before that in Denver, and like our kids go 0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:16.160 to the same school. Like we're we're dear friends, you 0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:19.600 know what I mean. We I was texting with him 0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.040 yesterday about he was talking about some app that you 0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:26.560 can download where you can stream television because sometimes I'm 0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.080 in my trailer and I want to watch Walker or whatever. 0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:31.400 Uh So we talked about all sorts of stuff. And 0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.120 he's a hell of Texan and he grew up in 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.640 North Dallas. He's gotta walk three kids. I'm a Texan. 0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:38.520 We got a wife with three kids. You know, we're 0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.560 both like country music fans and uh a lot to 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.360 talk about, you know what it is as you get older, 0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.479 you don't, you know. And I've got three young kids, 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.080 a wife, and a couple of jobs, and so I 0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.680 don't really see anybody unless there last thing is kind 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:54.000 of in the same house or they work on Walker. 0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.319 But he's directed Walker, and we're hoping to get him 0:40:57.360 --> 0:40:59.279 on board, but he's he's going to go up in 0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:02.000 New Mexico right now. He's a He's a heck of 0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:04.759 a musician, isn't he. Well, yeah, he's great. He's great voice. 0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:09.680 Uh always we used to go, Um, when we had 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.239 late nights on Supernatural, I take my guitar over to 0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.000 his trailer or vice versa, and we just sat there 0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:16.319 and strong and play a little bit. But yeah, he's 0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.920 since the day I met him in Jessa Pod, he's 0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:22.240 always been noodling on guitar and singing in his beautiful voice. 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:26.960 And as a band, that's that's great. Um, So tell 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.160 us a little bit about Walker. How did that come about? 0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:32.359 You're you're the boss over there, you know, and you're 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:35.239 the star and you're the executive producer and it's premiering 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.839 tonight and it's exciting as all get out. Let's tell 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:43.239 us about it. So Walker happened? Uh, funny enough. I 0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:48.239 think it was seasons fourteen or Supernatural and Jensen and 0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.040 I had a discussion with each other we had. We 0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.520 had this for years and years because his wife and 0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.000 kids lived in Austin and my wife and kids lived 0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.560 in Austin. We're filming in a foreign country. I'll be 0:41:57.719 --> 0:41:59.960 you know, it's Canada. It's not that it's but it's 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.160 it's a long flight or series of flights. You know. 0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:06.400 There was no direct clad sign and so we finally 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.600 one day we looked at each other, I think and 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:12.040 season fourteen, and we were like, hey, man, I think 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.560 I'm ready to hang up the flannel. You know, like, hey, 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.040 I think I am too, Like I'm ready to meet 0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.839 my wife and kids who live in Texas while where 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:22.560 in Canadas dead. Um. And so we approached the studio 0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:25.240 network and we're like, hey, you know, we we uh, 0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:27.520 we think if we do go another year, which would 0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.760 be season fifteen, it's gonna be our our last season. 0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.600 And you know, discussions were had and they wanted more 0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.759 and we wanted more as well. Obviously, Um, there was 0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:38.759 no falling out or anything where it's like I'm done 0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:42.239 with this show. It was legit, like, hey, like I 0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:45.200 got three kids in school and I see them some months, 0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:48.040 some calendar months. I'd see my kids two days. You know, 0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:50.120 and that was just not You're like, well, I'm working 0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.080 so hard so I can see my kids, but I 0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:53.839 can't see my kids because I'm working so hard. There 0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:57.920 must be a better middleground. And so we announced that 0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:01.000 season fifteen would would be the final season. And then 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:06.920 talking with Mark Pettwitz uh then Presidency w and UH. 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:08.319 He was like, hey, well, you know, if you're ever 0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:12.440 interested in, you know, getting back on camera or developing 0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.920 or something, I hope i'm your first phone call. And 0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.440 I was like, well, Mark, thank you so much. Um, 0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:22.560 I mean, honestly, it has to be in Austin. And 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:27.680 he was like that's a great ideas, Like, well, you know, um, 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.239 I would want to be a producer on it so 0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:35.080 I could help guide the storyline. And he's like, of course, 0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.440 like you've done three D something episodes of television, You've 0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.960 been in the business for twenty years. And again I'm 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:43.120 kind of like, I feel like I was trying to 0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.160 negotiate myself out of a job. He kept going, s 0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:51.080 great idea, so uh So that kind of swam around 0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:54.080 my head a little bit. And then I was talking 0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:57.160 with my manager from when I was in high school 0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:00.440 too now and we were like, well, something been Austin 0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.000 what what what would be a good And I don't 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:07.160 remember who brought up Walker, but you know Walker is 0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:11.880 a Texas Ranger and the headquarters of the Texas Rangers 0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:14.640 is in the capital of Texas. The capital of Texas 0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:20.680 is Austome and so funny enough, our our initial conversations, 0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:25.960 we're almost like, what about if if the new Walker, 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:29.480 if if this goes is more about a family man 0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:32.360 who's a ranger, not a ranger who has a family. 0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.000 Does that make any sense? And we used as a 0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:38.120 matter of fact, we used Gilmore Girls a lot, like hey, 0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:42.600 let's see, like the show is not about like roundhouse 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:46.040 kicking minorities, you know, Um, it's about a guy who's 0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:48.319 trying to invest in can he's got kids and he's 0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:53.080 a widower or he's a widow, um, and uh, he's 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.160 got a family, he's got a life. And I've been 0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:56.960 very fortunate to have a lot of friends in law 0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.680 enforcement and military, and you know, they have cool jobs 0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:02.719 and have to enforced the law on this and that, 0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:04.799 but they're always just people. Going back to what we 0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.520 talked about earlier with anxiety and depression, people are people, 0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:12.040 whatever outfit they're wearing, whether it's a badge or whether 0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.680 it's a you know, burger king had um and there 0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.000 serving you a bird. They're human beings that have emotions 0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.280 and feelings, and they have pause and they have blows, 0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:22.440 and they have things they're passionate about. They have things 0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:24.799 that they're not okay with, and so we just kind 0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:26.719 of started developing the show. I read. I read an 0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:30.520 article about it was an op ed back in the Times. 0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:35.560 It's a shameful think of but when there were people 0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:38.719 at the border who were having to separate families and 0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:43.040 put some in cages, as it's described, and I read 0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:46.000 an op ed from one of the law enforcement officials 0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:48.799 who was there and something happened and they couldn't bring 0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.160 themselves to keep doing it, and the o ed was 0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:53.160 kind of like, you know, I was being asked to 0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:57.360 separate this four year old from their dad, and I 0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:59.680 have a four year old, and all I could think 0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:01.040 of is like if somebody tried to that to me, 0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.040 like I'd ripped the throat out, And so they put 0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:05.640 their badge and you're gone on their captain's desk and said, 0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:07.760 like I understand I might lose my pension. I understand 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.120 I might get caughte martial or something, but I can't 0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:13.319 do this. And I was fascinated by that idea of 0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:15.480 you know, you're bound by duty and you want to 0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:17.239 do the right thing, and you believe that doing the 0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:20.360 right thing is going to be following the letter of 0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:23.839 the law, but you also have a moral conscience and 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:27.120 you want to do what's right overall. Um. And so 0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.399 that's kind of how we started developing Walker, And now 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:34.120 here we are we're shooting episode uh six of season three, 0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:38.920 and tonight uh we premiered the prequel as well, Walker Independence, 0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:44.239 which we have been developing since Walker even aired, which 0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:49.280 we aired our first episode in January. And right before 0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:52.400 we aired our first episode of Walker, James kem Fighi, 0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:58.160 who is showrunning Walker Independence and was then COEP for Walker, 0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:03.120 was like, heyn idea, I've been trying to think about, 0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:07.520 like the Walker family and Texas and the roots, and 0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:11.160 I think there's a story there were like, yeah, there 0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:14.479 probably is, like, uh, you know, uh, what are you thinking? 0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:18.799 And again you start developing and now Walker Independence, or 0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:22.040 Wendy as we call it is a is a Rockham 0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.759 Sockem home run of the show. If you ask me, 0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:30.200 and I think so exciting. It's so exciting. So everybody 0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:39.680 tune in h Walker starring Jared Pedal A key. Okay, 0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:44.400 let's do some Dean trivia. What is Dean allergic to? Oh? God, 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:51.360 walnuts truck? What's his favorite ice cream? Do you know? Uh? 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:56.400 Shop puncher cookie meant? Where did Dean first kiss Rory 0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:01.879 on the porch? No? Dozy smart kit? Where did Dean 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:06.439 move from when he moved? Two Stars Hollow, Chicago? There 0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:10.200 you go. What sport did he play in high school? Hockey? 0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:17.879 Ice hockey? Correct? What was the name of his younger sister? Uh? Um, 0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:27.160 you got yeah, let's got it. Sawyer Clara Clara close 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:34.240 close close? Uh? What was his favorite movie? Roseman's Baby? 0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:39.680 That was my first line was Lord of the Rings? 0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:43.560 All right, now, Rd of the Rings, Lord of the 0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:47.600 Rings story. I read the books before the movies came out, 0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:52.360 and I think it was season three. We had that big, 0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:55.920 massive scene. It must have been a thanksgaming episode. Um. 0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:58.840 We shot there on the lock and everybody was in 0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:02.759 the scene and uh ed Herman Rest in Peace was 0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:05.239 also in the scene, and in between takes he noticed 0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:07.239 that I was reading Lord of the Rings and so 0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:09.480 he came up and he's saying, you know, are you 0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:13.360 enjoying the book? He's like, yeah, I love it and 0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:14.759 I want to get through them before the movies came 0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:16.560 out and this and that. He says, where are you 0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:19.160 uh in the books? And there it was. It was 0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.680 fooliship for the ring of the time. I hadn't gotten 0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:24.600 to two Towers or uh looking yet, and so I 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:26.120 was like, oh, they just went through the minds of 0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:29.160 Moria and and then he kind of looked away and 0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:33.800 went as the drone goes boom boom the Hobbits really 0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:36.480 like he he recited the passage that I had literally 0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:40.040 just read like five minutes earlier, and verbatim, he just 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:43.000 where I was in a book, which was one of 0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:48.640 three books and recited something from it. Uh thanks, remember 0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:53.520 going wow, like that's a ring on this guy. Amazing, amazing, 0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:57.479 amazing actor. Um all right, rapid fire. How many cups 0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.640 of coffee do you have a day? Well? Are you 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:06.080 team Logan, Team Team Jess or Team Dean? Who's your 0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:12.479 favorite Gilmore Girls character? Oh, Kirk, what would you order 0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:20.200 Luke's Diner? Uh? Okay, when would you rather go on 0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:27.160 a road trip? With Taylor or Michelle. You can say 0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:31.480 neither if he gives you want. I love them both 0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:35.920 as people. Also go with Michelle. Okay, finish the lyric 0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:39.399 and where you lead. I will follow dot dot dot 0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:43.600 anywhere anywhere that you tell me to. Good. Yes, Jackson's 0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:47.879 vegetables are Suki's baked Goods baked? Would you rather listen 0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:53.040 to Drella's harp or the Troubadours cover songs? Tudor Children, 0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:56.839 Prepper Stars, Hollow High Stars, Hollow. Hi? There you go? 0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:59.440 All right, Jared, We're not going to keep you any 0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:03.719 longer of us more time than you should have. We 0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:07.400 appreciate it. I we'd love to do it again. Um. 0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:11.200 I cannot tell you how excited we were to hear 0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:15.439 that you were coming on. And I appreciate it so much. Um. 0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:19.560 You are a huge part of our analyzes and our 0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:24.359 breakdowns of shows. You You are maybe the top guy 0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:28.200 that we are, you know, fawning all over and just 0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:32.600 marveling at and uh, what a great guy you are? 0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:36.759 What a courageous human being? Uh you are or for 0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:40.000 the work that you do? Uh, so much respect for you, 0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:44.560 so much love for you, my friend, and uh Um, 0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:46.960 I am so happy at all of your success. It 0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:52.560 is well deserved from somebody who is so loving and 0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:56.800 so generous. Um, and the best to your family and 0:51:56.800 --> 0:52:01.200 and continued success for you, my friend. And and uh 0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:05.279 great great, yeah, I know great talking to you. And 0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:09.120 uh and uh, I'll take you around some barbecue joints. 0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:13.560 Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. All right, buddy, 0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:15.759 have a have a have a great rest of the 0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:19.439 off day. And all the best to you. Okay, Acus, 0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:51.520 you're bron all right. Yeah, Hey everybody, and don't forget 0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:55.640 follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast 0:52:55.760 --> 0:53:00.799 and email us at Gilmore at I heart radio dot com. Oh, 0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:02.400 you get more fans. 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