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Speaker 1: I am all in moles You, I am all in

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Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast Everybody Scott Patterson,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Jared Patta Lucky, the One and

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Speaker 1: Only Dean Forrester. Jared was a series regular. Appeared in

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Speaker 1: six and three episodes from two thousand two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: First appeared in the pilot season one episode one. Last

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Speaker 1: appearance was season five episode eighteen to Live and Let

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Speaker 1: Diorama UM. He was known as a new kid in town.

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Speaker 1: I think he needs no introduction to the Gilmore world.

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Speaker 1: His bio is interesting. From San Antonio, Texas, he started

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Speaker 1: to take acting classes when he was twelve, He won

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Speaker 1: the Claim to Fame contest to appear in the Teen

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Speaker 1: the year UH two thousand Presidential scholars Program. After graduating

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Speaker 1: in two thousand, he moved to l a and got

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Speaker 1: the role in Gilmore. He also went on to portray

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Speaker 1: Sam Winchester and the c W supernatural h For My

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Speaker 1: God fifteen seasons. He now stars in the show Walker

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Speaker 1: on c W. Also has several feature film credits including

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Speaker 1: I think Jared is also uh an executive producer on Walker,

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Speaker 1: so he's in control over there. So very nice career

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Speaker 1: trajectory still uh going up into the left, as they say,

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Speaker 1: is he is he here? Lis bringman? Yeah, there you are.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, buddy? How are you? Brother? I'm good,

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Speaker 1: you're looking well. I'm feeling all right, man, I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: all right. Thank you so much for doing this. I

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Speaker 1: know how incredibly busy you are, and any time that

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Speaker 1: you give us is much appreciated, and we are really

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Speaker 1: really excited to have you. You have no idea that

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Speaker 1: the team is going crazy. We're gonna do all kinds

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Speaker 1: of promotion and all kinds of stuff. So thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for coming on it. So it's

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Speaker 1: been a it's been a minute. Man. How's the fam?

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Speaker 1: How how the boys? How? How's how's your wife? How's

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Speaker 1: everything going? They're great? Uh, Tom our oldest is ten

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Speaker 1: and he's a fifth wader. Chef is eight, he's a

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Speaker 1: rule the roost. Uh, we have a we have a

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Speaker 1: I had the day off of filming, so okay, on

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Speaker 1: our outside of Austin, So Jennen kind of snuck out

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Speaker 1: here to get some fresh air and get out of

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Speaker 1: the hustle and bustle of the city and nice. Well, well,

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Speaker 1: thank you for you know, I know how Um this

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Speaker 1: is an off day for me too. I'm up in

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Speaker 1: Nova Scotia shooting a TV series and the off days

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Speaker 1: are few and far between it and they're very precious,

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Speaker 1: and I thank you for sharing it with us. Thank

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Speaker 1: you back. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's it's beautiful. It's it's

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Speaker 1: like every every angle is a postcard up here. It's

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of crazy. What they're there now is

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Speaker 1: an already into the kind of early it's starting to

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Speaker 1: get like fifty degrees fifty five, little windy, and but

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Speaker 1: but I'm warmed by the thought of Chad Michael Murray

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Speaker 1: being my cast mate. So let's say Gilmore Reunion Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: So for him, it's like old half Yeah, that's no

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Speaker 1: big deal. That's no big deal. Um, So look, let's

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Speaker 1: get into this. We've got a million questions for you. UM,

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Speaker 1: I know we're not going to get to them all

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Speaker 1: even you know, but I don't want to keep you

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Speaker 1: that long on and off day, especially um, So let's

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Speaker 1: want to hear all about it, um, because I'm fascinated

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Speaker 1: with I mean, you're executive producing it as well, so

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Speaker 1: game there. Um, But Skilmily your first uh acting gig

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Speaker 1: be a trophy presenter at the first annual Teen Choice Awards.

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Speaker 1: And that meant stood there on stage, I held on

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Speaker 1: And then he would send scripts. And these are back

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Speaker 1: the other characters lines. And Spielo was like, I think

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Speaker 1: And my mother is a teacher, she retired now my

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Speaker 1: I flew out during spring break of my senior year,

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Speaker 1: so February during pilot season, thank god, and I got

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Speaker 1: in for the pilot and they were like, following your dreams, son,

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Speaker 1: with my papa, my mom's dad. UM stayed with my

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Speaker 1: You know it was and it was the proper and

427
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: I remember kind of going like I needed that right here,

428
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: right now, at this age. If I want to make

429
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 1: a careerative this, I gotta remember we're not just playing

430
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: like someone the studio and network are spending lions of

431
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: dollars for us to be here and do this. And

432
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: I remained a goofball on set. I get away with

433
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: it a little bit more now, uh and whatnot. But

434
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: I think I was just I was you know, I

435
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: was never a jerk, but I think I was probably

436
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 1: just goofing around just enough for you to kind of

437
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: premiuside and you obviously done years of work and just

438
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: tell me like, hey, you know, let's tone it down

439
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: a little bit or whatever you said. I remember, I

440
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: remember the feeling of like that's right, Like this is

441
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: a job. All of these people are doing a job,

442
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: and so that was good. So thank you. I don't

443
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: remember was twenty two years ago, I I do, I

444
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: do remember, I do, um, But you know, the things

445
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: I remember most about you on set were our discussions

446
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: about training and uh, you know, you were you wanted

447
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: to gain weight, um. And I just remember because I,

448
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 1: you know, I was like you when I was a kid,

449
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: just just tall, skinny, couldn't get anyway, ate like a horse,

450
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: worked out like a fiend, couldn't get anyway. I was

451
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: inncerned about it, and I just remember I didn't really

452
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: know what to say to you other than just enjoy

453
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: it while it lasts, because it ain't gonna laugh. But

454
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: it looks like in your case it lasted. Um. Yeah,

455
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: what was the season where you had kickboxing? I remember

456
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: coming coming to that one time and like shaking your

457
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: hand and you kind of like shook it. And you

458
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: had been at Crunch kickboxing with somebody. And I don't

459
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,719
Speaker 1: remember what exactly happened, but I think you might have

460
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: like boxing fracture or something. I was like, oh my bad,

461
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: like all good, you know, but I remember, oh I

462
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 1: had I had a bad hand or something. You you

463
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: you would you would? I think maybe had a metacarpal

464
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: injury or something. Yeah, yeah, you were I know the

465
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: guy's name if I heard it. But there was a

466
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: kickboxing trainer Crunch that you have been training with, Lolly. Yeah,

467
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: it was the former world champion. Yes, the most the

468
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: most dangerous human being on the planet. But the sweetest

469
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: guy in the world. Yeah, you need to be me

470
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: because they can back it up. Yeah. He was just

471
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: like the nicest guy in the world. Yeah, So we

472
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: recapped speaking of fighting, uh, we've recapped your fight scene

473
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: with Milo at the high school party and a little

474
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: bit ago. But you're what do you remember having about

475
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: having to film that scene? How long did it take

476
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: with all that choreography? Because it was really one of

477
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: the best and most brutal violent fights I've seen on TV.

478
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: It was so real for a show like Gilboard Girls,

479
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, were we weren't shooting a d C show

480
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: or a Marble show where everybody's fighting all the time. Um,

481
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: my stupman was Jake Chambers. It was at the ranch.

482
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: So we shot that at the at the One Brother's ranch,

483
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: not the lot where obviously stars hollow as you know,

484
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: but for the fans, there two one of Brothers properties

485
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: in Burbank. One is the lot where they're all those stages,

486
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: and one is the ranch, which is really famous well

487
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: for many things. But at the opening credits to Friends

488
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: where they're all on the fountain, and we had gone

489
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: to one of the streets out there and shot inside

490
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: and outside. I feel like we shot it in a night,

491
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: you know. And I imagine you've you've commented on this before,

492
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: but Gilmore Girls was known for being a long day

493
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, we had I remember driving off the lot

494
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: on other occasions and it'd be like six in the

495
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: morning and you know, you drive past the guard station,

496
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: you only window down. They're like Gilmore Girls, like, yeah,

497
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: like we figured, you know, crap safe. Uh, but this

498
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: I feel like this was probably you know, we shot

499
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: in November or December, um there at the ranch and

500
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: probably shot you know from six pm to six ham

501
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: or something, and was obviously super fit and uh. He

502
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: was also a guy similar to the conversation that you

503
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: and I had in that school set. Vilo kind of

504
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: show me the ropes a little bit because again I

505
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: didn't like, I just stayed in my t tiler. I

506
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: didn't know. So one time we were shooting and he

507
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: was like, hey, you want to you know, we're not

508
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: the next scene we have launched, you want to go

509
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: grab by And I was like, we can leave and

510
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: this is season two seven. Yeah, we just gotta be back.

511
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: You know, they'll they'll text me, will call me, like,

512
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: give us a half hour heads up, it was like,

513
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: you sure weren't get in trouble. He was like, oh man,

514
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: now it's fine, and so he kind of would walking

515
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: around and uh, let me know the ropes, because even

516
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: a season into Gilmore Girls, I was still you know,

517
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: as you well know, like in terms of understanding the

518
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: business in the way it all works, I was still

519
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: a white belt, you know. Um that was in the

520
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: way to become black belt proverbially, uh, very much a

521
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: white belt. And so Milo helped me out. And you know,

522
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: it's it's you've done these as well. When you're doing

523
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: a stunt sequence with somebody who's not super physically capable,

524
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: it's worrisome because you're like, you know, he's punched me,

525
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: your album me and I don't know if this guy's coordinated,

526
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: Like I think I'm gonna hurt. I didn't feel that

527
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: way with Milo. Milo is fit and seemingly always has

528
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: been and certainly still is, and so I just remember

529
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: being like, this is gonna be fine. Um, and then

530
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: the whole tackle sequence out into the yard, it was.

531
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: It was a good time. He and I. It's funny

532
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: because we've always gotten along extremely well. I mean, even

533
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: from the get go where the scripts were lining us

534
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: up to be rivals on camera. We just got along.

535
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: We're just buddies, you know. He's like, hey, let's go

536
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: get let's go get a bike. And I think he

537
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: was he may still be vegan or vegetarian. But there

538
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: was like a little weekend place and we just went

539
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, where's the burger. He's like, well,

540
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: it's a she's talking mushroom sandwich. I was like, whatever,

541
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Uh. So it helps a lot when

542
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: you when you kind of trust respect to people you're

543
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: working with, especially in a physical sequence where you don't

544
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: want to acctudentally take an eilbow to nose and right. Um, right.

545
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: So the classic question that everybody wants me to ask,

546
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: We know Matt sup he knows who Rory's baby daddy is.

547
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: Do you know? Do you have any guesses? I? I

548
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: don't know for sure. My understanding is that it's changed

549
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Um I I I I have

550
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: some guesses, but I don't know for sure. And you know,

551
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: if I have no doubt that if Matt says he

552
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: knows that he knows, but I would put it past

553
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: the Palladinos to to change it at the last second.

554
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: Maybe I do know this. I do know that when

555
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: we did the reunion, well, when y'all did the reunion

556
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: and I showed up for a day, I was supposed

557
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: to be in more of it. I remember talking to

558
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: Amy and she was like, Hey, we'd love to We're

559
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: doing this and we'd love to have you around. It

560
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: was like absolutely at the time, you know, shooting Supernatural

561
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: with Van Cooper and so um, basically whatever I was

562
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: gonna be and got way whittled down, and ultimately it

563
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: came down to we couldn't clear me on any specific day.

564
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: So Ay basically told me, Hey, if you find out

565
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: you have a day off, call me up, let me know.

566
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: We'll we'll do that. You know, everybody's already on set anyways,

567
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: because we're cross boarding, and so I think I called

568
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: her like on a Monday, and I was like, hey,

569
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: I have Thursday off, and she's like, cool, you want

570
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 1: to come down. I was like absolutely, And so I

571
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: flew down Thursday morning, uh, did the refitting and whatever,

572
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: shot Thursday, you know, morning afternoon, early evening, and then

573
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: flew back to Vancouver that night and shot Supernatural. The

574
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: next morning. So, um, yeah, you can only do that.

575
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: You can only do that when you're in your twenties.

576
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: There's just no other way to do that. Who was

577
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: the reunion? Uh yeah, I would have been Yeah, thirty

578
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: four three five. Yeah, okay, there you go. Well you

579
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: look that's not three. Uh. And I was in Vancouver

580
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: and my family was in Austin, and so you know,

581
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: I can go home and go to bed as opposed

582
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: to chasing kids around all that lay um So so listen, Jared.

583
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: One of the things that I admire so much about

584
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: you is the your courageous approach to sharing some of

585
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: the struggles that you've had with mental mental health issues

586
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: and depression and anxiety, and I just you know, it

587
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: really does take a special kind of courage to step

588
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: up and and admit that and say that and talk

589
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: about a started dialogue because it and it's hard, it's

590
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: it's it's extremely generous to do it, because it it

591
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: gets the the issue out there, It gets people talking

592
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: about it, and it gets and it gives people the

593
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: courage to step forward that otherwise wouldn't. Uh. And you

594
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: you inspire millions and millions of people through your work

595
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: and now through your your your your work with charities

596
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: and with these specific issues, can you talk about a

597
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: little bit for sure? Thank you for asking. I've been

598
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: very public that I've had I don't say struggles, I

599
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: say a relationship. I kind of feel like, um uh,

600
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: there's a great quote that I love and it's my favorite,

601
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: and it's pain is mandatory, suffering as optional. And so

602
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: I like to say, we're all going to deal with pain.

603
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: We all deal with pain, no matter if you're Elon

604
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: Musk with three billion dollars or somebody who's having a

605
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, do hard manual labor for five bucks an hour.

606
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna have pain. Uh choice whether or not you

607
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 1: can make, whether that can make you suffer. And so

608
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: I take my relationship mental health very seriously. I see

609
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: a doctor every week and I have for many, many years.

610
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: And I think it occurred to me, you know, especially

611
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: early on in the Gilmal Girls years. I think I

612
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: kind of long had uh maybe an underlying anxiety mostly,

613
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: but depression. At times I got pretty bad and I

614
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: just felt like, well, here I am, like I get

615
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: to play pretend for a living. I get to buy

616
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: a house when I'm twenty years old. With money I made,

617
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: not money I wanted the lottery. You're inherited from family,

618
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: nothing anything wrong with that. But you know, you're in

619
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: magazines and they're going like, oh, you're the new heart

620
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: throb and this and that, you're making good friends and

621
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: you're doing what you've always dreamed. But I would go

622
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: home and you know, I sometimes or I would just

623
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: just sit there and not do anything. And I was like,

624
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: something's weird, man, Like this doesn't make There's nothing on

625
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: paper I can write down that I'm unhappy about, Like, so,

626
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: why am I feeling so anxious? Or why am I

627
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: feeling so sad? Um? And not even Sadad's kind of

628
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: a funny, like you could feel sad and not have depression,

629
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: you know. So this is a more like you don't

630
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: want to eat, you don't want to go outside, you

631
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: don't want to talk to friends, you don't want to

632
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: talk to him. Like it was more of that. Uh,

633
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: And so I looked, let gonna be like what's wrong

634
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: with you, dude? Like what what? What more do you want?

635
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: Like what's your problem? Like why are you so entitled? Um?

636
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 1: And finally one day, uh, luckily with with a lot

637
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: of great friends, and family and and the fandom from

638
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, Gilmore Girls and Supernatural and now Walker and

639
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: whatever else. It was just sort of like it was

640
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: a leap of faith just to go like, hey, I

641
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: know that I'm that guy on TV UM, but not

642
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: all as well. Uh, And I accept that. And you know,

643
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was either gonna be you know,

644
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: I never worked again in my head, you know, catastrashing.

645
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: It was either gonna be like, oh, we're gonna be

646
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: so disappointed or think you're an asshole for not being happy.

647
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: And it wasn't that. I was so happy. I am

648
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: so happy with the life I've been able to live.

649
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been able to live a thousand

650
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: lives in four short years. Um. But I was met

651
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: with nothing but uh, you know, love and support. And

652
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: I think my main message is that if you feel

653
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: like you're alone, uh, you're not. Uh. And I think

654
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: just humans are humans, man. We all have our ups

655
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: and downs. And if you look happy on the outside,

656
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: you might be set on the inside. And that's okay.

657
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: You know, no feeling is final, and so just keep

658
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: your head up and be honest about it. And I

659
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: think the biggest deal for me was to say like, hey,

660
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with something and that might sound ironic because

661
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: on the outside it looks like I got everything somebody

662
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: could ever wish for work and I do. You know,

663
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: I'm very fortunate. But it doesn't mean that your brain

664
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be with your brain does So everybody listening now,

665
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: go to Jared's socials. He's got all of that information

666
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: on his social media platforms for organizations that can help

667
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: out or to get involved with. And and just know

668
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: that Jared's got your back, okay, because he's been through it, uh,

669
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: and he can he can help you through it forever,

670
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: you know, to some degree. And that's another thing. It's

671
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: just like, hey, if your brain does this instead of

672
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: doing that, then that's just gonna it's gonna be something

673
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: you have a relationship with, but you don't listen to it. Right,

674
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: It's real and it should be dealt with, and it's

675
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: nothing to be ashamed of. It's just, you know, takes

676
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of courage to step up and admit

677
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: it and get some help. Yeah, and you'll be surprised

678
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: by the outpouring of love and support. I was anticipating judgment,

679
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, I was anticipating like, oh, that guy's broken,

680
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: and it was the opposite. It was the right, wonderful,

681
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 1: very very very inspirational. Um, Um, let's talk a little

682
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: bit about Supernatural is a huge part of your life,

683
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: A huge part of your career was a fifteen season run. Yeah,

684
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: we had a four month hiatus, moth hiatus, so mega hit.

685
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: Uh Supernatural Uh being part of the c W family

686
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: for twenty years. Uh, and now uh tell us a

687
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: little bit about, um, what that experience is like for you,

688
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: being more than two decades on a single network and

689
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: and Supernatural and uh we Uh, Supernatural was c W

690
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: for the CW was even CW. You know, our season

691
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: one was w B. As you remember, Gilmore Girls was

692
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: w B, and then season five, I guess went to

693
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: Popper six went to CW. So Supernatural was for many

694
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: years the only show on television that was older than

695
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: the network that aired it. We had a lot of

696
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: we had a lot of scares. You know, when Warner

697
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: Brothers in upn merged, we thought, up, we're done. And

698
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: then when the president of CW change, We're like, we're done.

699
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: And then when the writers trike happened, you've got app

700
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: were done, and then we were kind of just as

701
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 1: a little show that could that had this really much

702
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: like Gilmore had this very very dedicated audience. You know,

703
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: like I've I've met fans of Gilmore, girls who will

704
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: come up and mentioned some things to me about the

705
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: show or a question or what do you think about

706
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: this or that, or hey, I love this scene, and

707
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even I filmed it, like I rememorized,

708
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: they worked on it, filmed it, uh and I don't

709
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: even recall that. And similar with Supernatural, and it was

710
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: a super just call it super super was a really

711
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: magical show of massical experience. That's where I met my wife.

712
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: She was on season four. Um and somehow another I

713
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't piss her off enough to say no

714
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: when I asked her out on a date. Uh. She's

715
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: probably regretting it now. But I've met great friends, um,

716
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: people that consider beyond friends, you know, their family and

717
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: really got to explore. I feel like Supernatural is where

718
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: I learned, where I earned my black belt. You know,

719
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: I had to do everything. I had to play humor,

720
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: I had to play a drama. It was a thriller,

721
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: but you had to be the big brother and the

722
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: little brother. I played different character. Stam would get possessed

723
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: or um Sam would be you know, dying from something.

724
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: So I really anything there is to do on screen.

725
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: I did it on Supernatural and huge blessing and our

726
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: fandom is outstanding, you know, we see we got to

727
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: convince ins on weekends and I see based in the

728
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: audience that I've seen for over a decade, you know,

729
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: so I didn't feel like it didn't feel like star fan.

730
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: It feels like, hey, like longtime friends that happened, but

731
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: fashion about this that aired for a while. It's like

732
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: going to a concert or seeing somebody in a bar

733
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: that has a Pearl Jam shot on and you're like, dude,

734
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: have you seen him live? Like yeah, Like it's it's

735
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: a shared passion for seeing like a Dallas Cowboys jersey

736
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: on somebody mewing like how about them boys? You know,

737
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: and you have an immediate kind of kinscha um. It's

738
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: been a huge blessing. Yeah, I mean I I have

739
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: seen Pearl Jam a couple of times live and it's

740
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: it's quite something. Actually, it's a very serious evening, but

741
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's cathartic to say the least um um.

742
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: Uh So, you're Supernatural co star Jensen Accles and I

743
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: just call him Accles. I don't think I've called him

744
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: Jensen in twelve years. So he's got a show, The Winchesters,

745
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: premiering soon. It's a prequel, is Supernatural? Are you excited

746
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: to s? Yeah? And I saw him. I was just

747
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: with him this past weekend in Kansas City and the

748
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: weekend before that in Denver, and like our kids go

749
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: to the same school. Like we're we're dear friends, you

750
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We I was texting with him

751
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: yesterday about he was talking about some app that you

752
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: can download where you can stream television because sometimes I'm

753
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: in my trailer and I want to watch Walker or whatever.

754
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: Uh So we talked about all sorts of stuff. And

755
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: he's a hell of Texan and he grew up in

756
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: North Dallas. He's gotta walk three kids. I'm a Texan.

757
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: We got a wife with three kids. You know, we're

758
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: both like country music fans and uh a lot to

759
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: talk about, you know what it is as you get older,

760
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 1: you don't, you know. And I've got three young kids,

761
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: a wife, and a couple of jobs, and so I

762
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: don't really see anybody unless there last thing is kind

763
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: of in the same house or they work on Walker.

764
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: But he's directed Walker, and we're hoping to get him

765
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: on board, but he's he's going to go up in

766
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: New Mexico right now. He's a He's a heck of

767
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: a musician, isn't he. Well, yeah, he's great. He's great voice.

768
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Uh always we used to go, Um, when we had

769
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: late nights on Supernatural, I take my guitar over to

770
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: his trailer or vice versa, and we just sat there

771
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: and strong and play a little bit. But yeah, he's

772
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: since the day I met him in Jessa Pod, he's

773
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: always been noodling on guitar and singing in his beautiful voice.

774
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: And as a band, that's that's great. Um, So tell

775
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: us a little bit about Walker. How did that come about?

776
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: You're you're the boss over there, you know, and you're

777
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: the star and you're the executive producer and it's premiering

778
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: tonight and it's exciting as all get out. Let's tell

779
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: us about it. So Walker happened? Uh, funny enough. I

780
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: think it was seasons fourteen or Supernatural and Jensen and

781
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: I had a discussion with each other we had. We

782
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: had this for years and years because his wife and

783
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: kids lived in Austin and my wife and kids lived

784
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: in Austin. We're filming in a foreign country. I'll be

785
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's Canada. It's not that it's but it's

786
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: it's a long flight or series of flights. You know.

787
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: There was no direct clad sign and so we finally

788
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: one day we looked at each other, I think and

789
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: season fourteen, and we were like, hey, man, I think

790
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm ready to hang up the flannel. You know, like, hey,

791
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: I think I am too, Like I'm ready to meet

792
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: my wife and kids who live in Texas while where

793
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: in Canadas dead. Um. And so we approached the studio

794
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: network and we're like, hey, you know, we we uh,

795
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: we think if we do go another year, which would

796
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: be season fifteen, it's gonna be our our last season.

797
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: And you know, discussions were had and they wanted more

798
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: and we wanted more as well. Obviously, Um, there was

799
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: no falling out or anything where it's like I'm done

800
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: with this show. It was legit, like, hey, like I

801
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: got three kids in school and I see them some months,

802
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: some calendar months. I'd see my kids two days. You know,

803
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: and that was just not You're like, well, I'm working

804
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: so hard so I can see my kids, but I

805
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: can't see my kids because I'm working so hard. There

806
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: must be a better middleground. And so we announced that

807
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: season fifteen would would be the final season. And then

808
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: talking with Mark Pettwitz uh then Presidency w and UH.

809
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: He was like, hey, well, you know, if you're ever

810
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: interested in, you know, getting back on camera or developing

811
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: or something, I hope i'm your first phone call. And

812
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: I was like, well, Mark, thank you so much. Um,

813
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it has to be in Austin. And

814
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: he was like that's a great ideas, Like, well, you know, um,

815
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: I would want to be a producer on it so

816
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: I could help guide the storyline. And he's like, of course,

817
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: like you've done three D something episodes of television, You've

818
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: been in the business for twenty years. And again I'm

819
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: kind of like, I feel like I was trying to

820
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: negotiate myself out of a job. He kept going, s

821
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: great idea, so uh So that kind of swam around

822
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: my head a little bit. And then I was talking

823
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: with my manager from when I was in high school

824
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: too now and we were like, well, something been Austin

825
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: what what what would be a good And I don't

826
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: remember who brought up Walker, but you know Walker is

827
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: a Texas Ranger and the headquarters of the Texas Rangers

828
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: is in the capital of Texas. The capital of Texas

829
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: is Austome and so funny enough, our our initial conversations,

830
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: we're almost like, what about if if the new Walker,

831
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: if if this goes is more about a family man

832
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: who's a ranger, not a ranger who has a family.

833
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Does that make any sense? And we used as a

834
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: matter of fact, we used Gilmore Girls a lot, like hey,

835
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: let's see, like the show is not about like roundhouse

836
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: kicking minorities, you know, Um, it's about a guy who's

837
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: trying to invest in can he's got kids and he's

838
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: a widower or he's a widow, um, and uh, he's

839
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: got a family, he's got a life. And I've been

840
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: very fortunate to have a lot of friends in law

841
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: enforcement and military, and you know, they have cool jobs

842
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: and have to enforced the law on this and that,

843
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: but they're always just people. Going back to what we

844
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: talked about earlier with anxiety and depression, people are people,

845
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: whatever outfit they're wearing, whether it's a badge or whether

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Speaker 1: it's a you know, burger king had um and there

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Speaker 1: serving you a bird. They're human beings that have emotions

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Speaker 1: and feelings, and they have pause and they have blows,

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Speaker 1: and they have things they're passionate about. They have things

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Speaker 1: that they're not okay with, and so we just kind

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Speaker 1: of started developing the show. I read. I read an

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Speaker 1: article about it was an op ed back in the Times.

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Speaker 1: It's a shameful think of but when there were people

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Speaker 1: at the border who were having to separate families and

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Speaker 1: put some in cages, as it's described, and I read

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Speaker 1: an op ed from one of the law enforcement officials

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Speaker 1: who was there and something happened and they couldn't bring

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Speaker 1: themselves to keep doing it, and the o ed was

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Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, I was being asked to

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Speaker 1: separate this four year old from their dad, and I

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Speaker 1: have a four year old, and all I could think

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Speaker 1: of is like if somebody tried to that to me,

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Speaker 1: like I'd ripped the throat out, And so they put

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Speaker 1: their badge and you're gone on their captain's desk and said,

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Speaker 1: like I understand I might lose my pension. I understand

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Speaker 1: I might get caughte martial or something, but I can't

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Speaker 1: do this. And I was fascinated by that idea of

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Speaker 1: you know, you're bound by duty and you want to

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Speaker 1: do the right thing, and you believe that doing the

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Speaker 1: right thing is going to be following the letter of

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Speaker 1: the law, but you also have a moral conscience and

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Speaker 1: you want to do what's right overall. Um. And so

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00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: that's kind of how we started developing Walker, And now

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Speaker 1: here we are we're shooting episode uh six of season three,

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Speaker 1: and tonight uh we premiered the prequel as well, Walker Independence,

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Speaker 1: which we have been developing since Walker even aired, which

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Speaker 1: we aired our first episode in January. And right before

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Speaker 1: we aired our first episode of Walker, James kem Fighi,

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Speaker 1: who is showrunning Walker Independence and was then COEP for Walker,

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00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: was like, heyn idea, I've been trying to think about,

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Speaker 1: like the Walker family and Texas and the roots, and

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Speaker 1: I think there's a story there were like, yeah, there

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Speaker 1: probably is, like, uh, you know, uh, what are you thinking?

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Speaker 1: And again you start developing and now Walker Independence, or

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Speaker 1: Wendy as we call it is a is a Rockham

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Speaker 1: Sockem home run of the show. If you ask me,

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Speaker 1: and I think so exciting. It's so exciting. So everybody

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Speaker 1: tune in h Walker starring Jared Pedal A key. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's do some Dean trivia. What is Dean allergic to? Oh? God,

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Speaker 1: walnuts truck? What's his favorite ice cream? Do you know? Uh?

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00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: Shop puncher cookie meant? Where did Dean first kiss Rory

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00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: on the porch? No? Dozy smart kit? Where did Dean

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00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: move from when he moved? Two Stars Hollow, Chicago? There

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Speaker 1: you go. What sport did he play in high school? Hockey?

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Speaker 1: Ice hockey? Correct? What was the name of his younger sister? Uh? Um,

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Speaker 1: you got yeah, let's got it. Sawyer Clara Clara close

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Speaker 1: close close? Uh? What was his favorite movie? Roseman's Baby?

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Speaker 1: That was my first line was Lord of the Rings?

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Speaker 1: All right, now, Rd of the Rings, Lord of the

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Speaker 1: Rings story. I read the books before the movies came out,

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Speaker 1: and I think it was season three. We had that big,

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Speaker 1: massive scene. It must have been a thanksgaming episode. Um.

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Speaker 1: We shot there on the lock and everybody was in

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Speaker 1: the scene and uh ed Herman Rest in Peace was

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Speaker 1: also in the scene, and in between takes he noticed

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Speaker 1: that I was reading Lord of the Rings and so

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00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: he came up and he's saying, you know, are you

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00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: enjoying the book? He's like, yeah, I love it and

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Speaker 1: I want to get through them before the movies came

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Speaker 1: out and this and that. He says, where are you

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Speaker 1: uh in the books? And there it was. It was

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Speaker 1: fooliship for the ring of the time. I hadn't gotten

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Speaker 1: to two Towers or uh looking yet, and so I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, they just went through the minds of

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Speaker 1: Moria and and then he kind of looked away and

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Speaker 1: went as the drone goes boom boom the Hobbits really

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Speaker 1: like he he recited the passage that I had literally

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Speaker 1: just read like five minutes earlier, and verbatim, he just

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Speaker 1: where I was in a book, which was one of

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Speaker 1: three books and recited something from it. Uh thanks, remember

921
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: going wow, like that's a ring on this guy. Amazing, amazing,

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Speaker 1: amazing actor. Um all right, rapid fire. How many cups

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Speaker 1: of coffee do you have a day? Well? Are you

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Speaker 1: team Logan, Team Team Jess or Team Dean? Who's your

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Speaker 1: favorite Gilmore Girls character? Oh, Kirk, what would you order

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Speaker 1: Luke's Diner? Uh? Okay, when would you rather go on

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Speaker 1: a road trip? With Taylor or Michelle. You can say

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Speaker 1: neither if he gives you want. I love them both

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Speaker 1: as people. Also go with Michelle. Okay, finish the lyric

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Speaker 1: and where you lead. I will follow dot dot dot

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Speaker 1: anywhere anywhere that you tell me to. Good. Yes, Jackson's

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Speaker 1: vegetables are Suki's baked Goods baked? Would you rather listen

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Speaker 1: to Drella's harp or the Troubadours cover songs? Tudor Children,

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Speaker 1: Prepper Stars, Hollow High Stars, Hollow. Hi? There you go?

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Speaker 1: All right, Jared, We're not going to keep you any

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Speaker 1: longer of us more time than you should have. We

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00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I we'd love to do it again. Um.

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Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how excited we were to hear

939
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Speaker 1: that you were coming on. And I appreciate it so much. Um.

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Speaker 1: You are a huge part of our analyzes and our

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Speaker 1: breakdowns of shows. You You are maybe the top guy

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Speaker 1: that we are, you know, fawning all over and just

943
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: marveling at and uh, what a great guy you are?

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Speaker 1: What a courageous human being? Uh you are or for

945
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Speaker 1: the work that you do? Uh, so much respect for you,

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Speaker 1: so much love for you, my friend, and uh Um,

947
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Speaker 1: I am so happy at all of your success. It

948
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Speaker 1: is well deserved from somebody who is so loving and

949
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: so generous. Um, and the best to your family and

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Speaker 1: and continued success for you, my friend. And and uh

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Speaker 1: great great, yeah, I know great talking to you. And

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Speaker 1: uh and uh, I'll take you around some barbecue joints.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. All right, buddy,

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Speaker 1: have a have a have a great rest of the

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Speaker 1: off day. And all the best to you. Okay, Acus,

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Speaker 1: you're bron all right. Yeah, Hey everybody, and don't forget

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Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast

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