1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis bock Sexton Show, We've 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: got a fun one headed your way. As we continue 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: to discuss the fallout of Majuro being seized in Venezuela, 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: we are expecting for there to be I believe another 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: another out there of the Tim Walls press conferences as 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: his political career is in shambles. We will discuss all 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: of that with you and more. Will also open up 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: phone lines. We didn't take very many calls your talkbacks 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: as well, to allow you to ask the questions that 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: you may have surrounding everything having to do with the 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: Venezuela situation as well as maybe the Tim Walls continued 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: fallout because if Venezuela hadn't happened, the Minnesota fraud story 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: and the fact that Tim Walls has gone from what 14 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty thousand votes away from being vice 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: president a heartbeat away from the presidency to basically having 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: his complete political career be over. And I don't know 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: about you Buck on this, but let's kind of dive in. 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: Do you agree with me that if Kamala hadn't picked 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: Tim Walls, he probably runs for governor again, gets elected. 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: People don't really pay that much attention to the Minnesota 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: fraud situation, just because Minnesota is not typically the focal 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: point of any major national news stories. And yes, the 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: fraud would have still existed, it would have been indefensible, 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't have been out there in the public 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: arena to such an extent, and so Tim Walls would 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: have gotten reelected and he would have continued right on 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: with the path that he was already on. 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: Yes, in a twist of irony, the guy who Democrats 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: put forward to be the avatar of American masculinity is 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: losing his political future after one people questioning whether he 31 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: was a good avatar of that masculinity, broadly mocking him. 32 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: And two he is a household name now because of 33 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: his short and ill fated run, and therefore the wild 34 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: corruption that has been unearthed in Minneapolis is a much 35 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: bigger story because the governor of Minneapolis, Tim Walls, is 36 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: a national figure, which you would not have been before. 37 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 2: I mean, if I sat here right now and ask everybody, 38 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: if you don't live in the state of Idaho, who's 39 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: the governor of Idaho? Everybody, everybody knows the governor of Minnesota, 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 2: though no By the way, no shade to the governor 41 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: of Idaho. 42 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: I think he's a Republican. But I'm with you, I 43 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: don't know who the governor of Idaho is. Man. He 44 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: might be listening right now. We love Idaho and we've 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: always been a big fan of your work. To celebrate 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: your entire catalog. In fact, you know, when you look 47 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: at that, I think it's also emblematic. Did you send 48 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: out a tweet? I think I saw where you're just like, 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: what if Democrats are just horribly wrong about everything? 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: Like yep, And I do think there's a lot of 51 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: truth to that. 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: But to me, the Tim Walls entire experience is indicative 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: of the fact that democrats buy and large look at voters. 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Like zoo animals they have to go out in the wild, 55 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: they look at men and they think, you know, in 56 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: the same way, was it Diane Fosse, who was I 57 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: think one of the great primatologists, If that's the. 58 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: Way Golla gorillas in the mist, and there was Jane 59 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: Goodall with the chimpanzees. 60 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: Yes, they would go out and they would sit in 61 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: the in the in the wild, and they would observe 62 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: what the chimpanzees did, what the gorillas did in an 63 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: effort to understand how their society works. Democrats now are 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: like that with men that they they I'm not kidding 65 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: about this. They sit there and they they've got their 66 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: notepad out and they and they say, you know. 67 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: What we need. 68 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: We need a older white guy who wears cowboy boots 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: and carhart and knows how to go out and walk 70 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: around with a gun. And he used to coach high 71 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: school football. And you put all this together and it's 72 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: like they're trying to create an AI avatar of what 73 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: they think is going to be a man who connects 74 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: with other men. The problem is what they missed is 75 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: authenticity matters more than anything. You look, there are nerds 76 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: out there who are not the foundation of I think 77 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: typically masculine you know, bigger, stronger, faster men don't aspire 78 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: necessarily to be like them. That could be really really popular, right, 79 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I would say, no offense to him. 80 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis a little bit of a nerd, right And 81 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: and I don't mean that at. 82 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: A meeting at as they called him. What was with 83 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: the meat ball? Was that some kind of weird underhanded 84 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: or backhanded like Italian American thing, Like why are they 85 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: hitting him on meatball? That never makes sense. 86 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: I met one of Ron DeSantis's fraternity buddies over over 87 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: break during and we were talking and he said, you know, 88 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: he loves Ronda Santis with ever fiber and his being. 89 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: He said, the guy is the best at just doing jobs. 90 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: Say, if you need a guy who's just gonna build 91 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: you a shelf in the frat house, Ron de Santis 92 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: will build a shelf in the frat house that will 93 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: be there for generations. 94 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: He's like, if you want a. 95 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: Guy that's gonna go out and pound a bunch of 96 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: beers and try to pick up girls, not Rond DeSantis's thing. 97 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: And so he's like, you know, the going on the 98 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: campaign trail, which is in many ways kind of a 99 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: seductive thing, right, you got to seduce voters, convince it 100 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: a popularity contest. Yes, it's not necessarily his thing. But 101 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: every guy out there listening to us right now, you're 102 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: saying to yourself, you know what, Ron Desantas, I wish 103 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: it could be governor of Florida for the next twenty years. 104 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: He's done maybe the greatest job as a governor that 105 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: Florida has ever seen. And so I Guess what I'm 106 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: getting at is Democrats don't understand men to such an 107 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: extent that they don't understand the wide range of masculinity 108 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: that I think we're publicans can end up supporting. And 109 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: so they toss out this fundamentally inauthentic guy in Tim Walls, 110 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: and he instead of actually convincing men that they should 111 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: be voting for Kamala and Walls, I think he actually 112 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: cost your votes. I think it would have actually been 113 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: better for Kamala Buck if she if she had gone 114 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: and just said, hey, you know what, Gretchen Whitmer is 115 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: my pick. Yeah, you got a double chick ticket. And 116 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: it might have hurt her, but I think she probably 117 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: would have won Michigan. 118 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: I don't think she would have called it a double 119 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: chick ticket, but yeah, I hear what you're saying. 120 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean the double dude ticket, double chick ticket. I 121 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: think she would have been better off. I don't like 122 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: Gretchen Whitmer, but I think Gretchen Whitmer is more authentic 123 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: as a governor than Tim Walls was. And I think 124 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: men might respect Gretchen Whitmer even more than they did 125 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: Tim Walls because he's so fake and so we start 126 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: off this day with Tim Walls's political career being over, 127 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: which I think is kind of a remarkable story. 128 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: Let's be honest here, good chance that if you're wondering 129 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: who could hang the picture frame and get it done 130 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: with the tool belt and all the things, I think 131 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: Gretchen Whimper might beat out Tim Walls. If you're looking 132 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: for someone to choreograph your next uh, I would say 133 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: Tim Walls is your Gretchen Whitmer might be better at home 134 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: repair than either you or I. Hold on, she definitely is. 135 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: I take no if my in laws are listening every time. 136 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: Every time my father in law shows up here to visit, 137 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: it's like a trade. He gets to see his grandchild 138 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: and his daughter, and I get to present him with 139 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: the list of things in the house that are broken 140 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: that I don't know how to fix. It's right, Laura, 141 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: Laura is the same way my father in law can 142 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: fix everything as an engineer. And you know, he just 143 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: shows up and by the way, he's about to be eighty. 144 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: Happy early eightieth birthday to my father. 145 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: In law, and he's still infinitely better at fixing anything 146 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: in the house. 147 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: So look, I'm not claiming that. 148 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: At least at least you drive way too fast like 149 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: a maniac and are ready for the F one circuit. 150 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: I drive slow. This is why I have to go 151 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: in my free time and shoot lots of guns and 152 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: do tactical training on the weekends to make up for 153 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: my inability to change a light bulb and driving like 154 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: a little old lady. 155 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you're driving like miss Daisy is is 156 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: definitely I was. I was doing all that this, actually 157 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: thought about this. 158 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: He should, they said, he should just say thank you 159 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: Buck for keeping me safe. But instead I get all this. 160 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: You know, when they were talking about the CIA agents 161 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: who were in in Venezuela, the officer I always get 162 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: that wrong. But the CIA officers who are in Venezuela. 163 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, You know, this could have 164 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: been a job for Buck. But hopefully they were never chased, 165 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: because if they were, he would have gotten caught and 166 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: captured just like that. Because the guy can't he has 167 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: no evasive driving skills. He would be obeying whatever the 168 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: speed limits are. Uh and uh and and as a result, 169 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: we might not have gotten Maduro. 170 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: Just because you don't drive fast enough. It's called going 171 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: low profile. Low Viz. You obey the local traffic ordinances, 172 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: so you don't arouse suspicion. Clay, that's how highly trained 173 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: I am. They would think that I'm a retiree on 174 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: vacation there. They would never suspect. How many Americans are 175 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: there in Venezuela. By the way, do we know, like 176 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: actually in Venezuela. It's a great question. I mean the 177 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: number is a lot less now than I mean obviously 178 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: right now, particularly, but it's been going down and down 179 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: for a long time. I mean, the State Department has 180 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: had to do not travel order up for Venezuela for 181 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: quite some time, I think, so it hasn't been a 182 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: probably don't go, it's a don't go. 183 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: This is my My boys are not going to shock 184 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: you that as soon as we rated Venezuela. My boys 185 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: are super sports fans. One of my sons said is 186 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: Ronald Alcunya. Okay, Ronald Lecunya is the star Venezuelan baseball 187 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: player of the Atlanta Braves and a lot of I 188 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: mean this is true, a lot of baseball players in 189 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: the off season go to Venezuela. Whether's perfect Baseball is 190 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: huguely popular there and so there are a lot of 191 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball players in Venezuela, I think right now 192 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: before the spring training starts next month. 193 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: No, maybe, uh, Venezuela, we decide we get Look, you 194 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 2: can't make him citizens. They're not Americans, They're they're they're Latinos, 195 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: they're South Americans and Latinas. But you know, maybe we 196 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: maybe Zar Miller. I don't know if he's officially being 197 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: called that yet, but Stephen Miller in the White House. 198 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: If in fact he gets the Venezuela portfolio we moved toward, 199 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: Venezuela becomes like Guam, but a lot bigger and with 200 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: a lot more oil. Like you're not you're not voting 201 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: in our You're exactly like the US Virgin Islands, except. 202 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: Where territorial law. 203 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: By the way, cleaning up a couple of things, we 204 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: are big fans of uh uh, Let's make sure that 205 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: I get this right. We are big fans of Brad Little, 206 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: current governor of Idaho. No one, no one bigger fans 207 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: than us. Let's let's make sure you get it right. 208 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: Because you've thinking about Brad a lot lately. Yes I have, 209 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: I've been, I've been thinking we need to talk about 210 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: what the job Brad's doing in Idaho? 211 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: Do you know what the truth is? Thought? Can I 212 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: just really quick, Clay, The reason we don't talk about 213 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: Brad a lot here is because Idaho is a great 214 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: state and he's obviously doing a great job. So because 215 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: he's not the focus of commentary is a good thing. Grock, 216 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: I don't know how much you use GROC now all 217 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: the time it's replaced Google for me. It's amazing. I 218 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: love it. 219 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: Grock says that there and if you have not, this 220 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: is worth getting on Twitter x by itself. I am 221 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: stunned by how a thick effective it is at just 222 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: giving me basic facts. Like yesterday, I was looking up 223 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it a little bit later, but I 224 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: was looking up the number of murders in Washington, DC. 225 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: You can go on Twitter, hit the Grock symbol and 226 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: you can just say, hey, tell me how many murders 227 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: there have been graphically from nineteen seventy in Washington, d C. 228 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: To the present day. Wait like forty five seconds a minute, boom, 229 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: all of the data right there in front of you. 230 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: Groc says there are ten thousand Americans roughly that are 231 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: living in Venezuela right now according to recent estimates. 232 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: All right, small number when you consider the size of Venezuela, 233 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 2: and I wonder what it would be comparatively, say to 234 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: Colombia next door. So we can grock that one. By 235 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: the way, Clay in retrospect. Now, given that, maybe Stephen 236 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: Miller can bring about the territorial dispensation of Venezuela for us, 237 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's going to do that. It's just 238 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: a fun idea. We should talk about Greenland, which I 239 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: don't think is entirely a joke. I still think that 240 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: there is an interesting conversation that is being had about 241 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: people say it belongs to Denmark. Okay, why the Greenlanders 242 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: are not Danes? Is what has Denmark done for Greenland? 243 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 2: Does Greenland get a say in this? It's a big 244 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: piece of territory. And also, just because you're a civil 245 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: war nerd self described people forget this. Ulysses Grant had 246 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: a great plan. He wanted to make the Dominican Republic 247 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: you're talking about baseball before. He wanted to make the 248 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: Dominican Republic a US territory and got shot down by 249 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: the Senate. 250 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: First of all, there are a lot of decisions we 251 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: made surrounding territories that I think were wrong, and I 252 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: think in like the first year of this show, four 253 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: or five years ago, I said we should go into 254 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: Cuba and we should end this absurdity. I'm gonna rebring 255 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: that back down, double down, triple down, quadruple down, whatever necessary. 256 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: We should right now in this year of twenty twenty six, 257 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: end the fact that Cuba is a communist country and 258 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: return basic freedoms to Cuba. To your point on territories, 259 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: I would even suggest that we should look at what 260 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: we've done with Puerto Rico and with the US Virgin 261 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: Islands Guam as you mentioned, and consider making Cuba a 262 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: territory of the United States, not a full part of 263 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: the of the citizenry. You're not voting, you know, in 264 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: the Senate, you don't have a congressional representation, but just 265 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: a protectorate of sorts. To me, that is a something 266 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: that should significantly be looked at. 267 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: Think about the deal that we've gotten in other places, 268 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: and Guam is one example. They get US military protection, 269 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: we put bases there. They don't ever have to worry 270 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: about foreign relations, foreign invasion, anything like that. They get infrastructure, 271 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: they get rule of law, they get access to you know, 272 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: American markets, et cetera. It's not a bad deal. 273 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: We already have. 274 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: The huge base at Guantanamo and thanks to Colonel Jessep 275 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: we still have it. 276 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: And we needed him on that wall. He was actually 277 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: the unsung hero of that movie in so many ways. 278 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: That's a conversation for another time. All right, this may 279 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: be the time, This may be the year that you 280 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: join me in something very important, gold and owning some gold. 281 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: Every indication is that gold is going to continue to 282 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: grow this year. 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Text my name Buck to 300 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight Text Buck to ninety 301 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: eight ninety eight ninety eight. 302 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 4: Saving America one thought at a time. Clay Travis and 303 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 4: Buck Sexton. Find them on the free Heart Radio app 304 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 4: or wherever you get your podcasts. 305 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We talked a little 306 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: bit for a second there about Greenland, not really well named. 307 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: It really should be Iceland. As we know, quite tricky, 308 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: sneaky the Vikings were with this. The Iceland actually has 309 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: some green, The Greenland actually has basically nothing but ice. 310 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: But that's the way it goes. Stephen Miller asking a question, 311 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: just asking questions. He was with fake Tapper over at CNN, 312 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: which still exists. I might add, CNN is still a 313 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: thing technically cut twenty two. Stephen Miller asking the question 314 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: why does Denmark have Greenland? 315 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 5: Can you say that military action against Greenland is off 316 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 5: the table? It wunna mean a military action against Greenland. 317 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 5: The Greenland has a population of thirty thousand people, Jake. 318 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 5: The real question is about what right does Denmark is 319 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 5: certain control over Greenland? What is the basis of their 320 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 5: territorial claim, what is their basis of how having Greenland 321 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 5: as a colony of Denmark the United States is the 322 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 5: power of NATO, for the United States to secure the 323 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 5: Arctic region, to protect and defend NATO and NATO interest. Obviously, 324 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 5: Greenland should be part of the United States. 325 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: It is a really great question why Denmark just has Greenland, 326 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: because Greenland has been a colony of Denmark for hundreds 327 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: of years. Basically, it is a fantastic question. There's only 328 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: thirty thousand people there. It seems to me that the 329 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 1: people of Greenland should be able to choose do they 330 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: want to be a part of America or rather be 331 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: a part of Denmark. And I don't know what that 332 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: outcome would be, but I feel pretty good about our 333 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: ability to provide a higher quality of life for the 334 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: people of Greenland than certainly Denmark. Does I mean anybody 335 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: doubt that at all we'll come back. We'll take some 336 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: of your calls and take some of your reactions. 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Cuba has now announced 360 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: Buck that thirty two Cubans were killed by the special 361 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: forces that seized Maduro. Now what's interesting about this is, 362 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: for those of you who had not paid a lot 363 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: of attention, the idea that Cuban bodyguards were uniquely skilled 364 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: and uniquely talented was a huge part of why Maduro 365 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: felt confident that he was well protected well and there's 366 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: a reason for this. 367 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: The reason, as we had discussed a little bit yesterday, 368 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: is that the Cuban relationship with security and security services 369 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: goes all the way back to the Cold War and 370 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: the KGB. I mean, I said things to you guys 371 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: like the KGB helped them. The KGB brought Clay the 372 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: Cuban services to Moscow. I mean they brought them to 373 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: their academies to train them in you know, counterintelligence. Subversion, assassination, 374 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: all of these things that the KGB excelled at. And 375 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: remember they learned this in a rule of law free framework, 376 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: so it's just you do whatever you have to do, 377 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: whatever goes right. It's a no holds barred approach to 378 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: intelligence and security work. And so the Cubans developed quite 379 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 2: a reputation for being the most adept intel operatives in 380 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: Latin America, which was a huge problem for the US. 381 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: Obviously in our allies, but even places like Angola, the 382 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: Cubans were sending military and security resources to shore up 383 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: communist revolutions elsewhere in the world. So they've been these 384 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 2: mercenaries for hire for a long time, but they ain't 385 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: Delta Force, that's for damn sure. 386 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: So thirty two of them killed, and I don't know 387 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: to what extent there's gonna be any of the cameras 388 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: are that are gonna get leaked or released. 389 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: I'm just putting this out there, but it is. 390 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: It is staggering how good these guys were, Buck And 391 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: I know they trained, and I know they had a 392 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: mock up of exactly where Madurea was. And a part 393 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: of me, by the way, thinks that we were talking 394 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: about this yesterday people were saying, Okay, why is President 395 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: Trump seemed to be okay with the existing vice president 396 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: potentially being elevated. Part of me thinks, bucks she might 397 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: have been one of the CIA sources that helped Madua 398 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: get taken out. Crazy theory, or do you think why 399 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: would she said publicly, oh, I'm not gonna do anything 400 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: for the US, And Rubio and Trump and everybody, they're like, hey, 401 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, we kind of understand that she has to 402 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: say things inside of her country that seem like she's 403 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: not working with us. But we're there saying here, we're 404 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: very confident we're going to be working with her. What 405 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: would the basis for feeling comfortable that you were going 406 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: to have a good relationship with her be unless you 407 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: had had some relationship in the past. 408 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: I have a very I have a very different feeling 409 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: about this play, which is that all of the players 410 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: still on the chessboard in Venezuela, just as a matter 411 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: of basic self preservation, now understand, we can get you 412 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: in your sleep, total surrounded by the best of the best, 413 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: and have you and have you transferred into a federal 414 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: penitentiary hellhole that you're never getting out of in the 415 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: blink of an eye, we can do that to anything. 416 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: Your your take is that they're just getting in line 417 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: because they saw what happened to Machado and they're afraid 418 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: that it could happen to them. 419 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: My question, and. 420 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: Certainly the motivating factor there is strong, uh based on 421 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: your analysis. My thought though, is for the President to 422 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: have come out and basically said, hey, this other woman 423 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: who won the Nobel Prize, that side of the political 424 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: equation we don't feel comfortable with at all. I feel 425 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: like the VP may have been one of the sources 426 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: that helped give up Machado. 427 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: I mean, it's yeah, there's we could we could speculate. 428 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 2: It's impossible to know the inner workings here of this 429 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: stuff unless you were involved in this kind of an operation. 430 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: I would say that on this front, though, the Iraq 431 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: lesson is something that's very I have a different view 432 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: of people bring up a rock in the context of oh, 433 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: it's quagmire and we might get into quagmire. People are 434 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 2: saying that, Okay, you can always say that about it. 435 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 2: Pretty much any military intervention we take anywhere in the world, 436 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: it could always go wrong, it could always get worse. 437 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: That's true, but that's not necessarily helpful or insightful. I 438 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: think that the lesson we've learned in the in the 439 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 2: Iraqi context is the big mistake that was made early on. 440 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: This was actually before I was in the Iraq office 441 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: at the cia UH. But the big, the big mistake 442 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: was debatification, right, because that meant that whether you were 443 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: like a traffic cop in a you know, in doing 444 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: the most basic stuff in Baghdad, all the way up 445 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 2: to the Minister of Defense, you were now not allowed 446 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: to be a part of the new governing Okay. So 447 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: basically everybody with training in a gun and any authority 448 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: in the country was told, you got nothing to do, 449 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: you have no source of income, go home and you know, 450 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: pound sand sand, yes, and And the truth is that 451 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: was a huge, huge, huge mistake, and we're not going 452 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: to do that in Venezuela because I think we've learned 453 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: that lesson, which is you work with It's funny because 454 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 2: Rumsfeld actually had a great insight about this. You go 455 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: to war with the army you have, you have really 456 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: you have a new regime in Venezuela with the pieces 457 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: you've got in place. You don't try to build this 458 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: isn't you break it, you buy it? The Cold and 459 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: Powell thing this is we have to work with the 460 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: existing realities of power on the ground and use the 461 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: leverage that we have. In this case, the huge leverage 462 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: of you want to oil the flow or not, because 463 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: that's without that, you guys got nothing. Basically, your economy 464 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: is on its ass and you can't pay your bills 465 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: and you know there's no food on the shelves. So 466 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: we have tremendous leverage. And I think that leverage is 467 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: of course economic. But then also on the security side, 468 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: who really wants to play games with a merit with 469 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 2: when you just saw like imagine you are, whether it's 470 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: the VP or Clay. They got a cast of characters. Man. 471 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: The Minister of Defense is actually named for Vladimir Lenin. 472 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 2: His name is Vladimir Padrino. His parents are such commies 473 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: that they named him for Vladimir Lenin. He's a whack job. 474 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: I think he has a fifteen or twenty five million 475 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: dollar bounty on his head. The Minister of Police basically 476 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: like National Police Guy ors Internal Security guy. He has 477 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: a TV show that he runs, This is true, a 478 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: TV show where called the or Hit it with a sledgehammer, 479 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: where he on TV talks about like politics and stuff, 480 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 2: and he has a bat with nails in it, like 481 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 2: the guy from The Walking Dead. Okay, these are the 482 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: people that run this country. This guy, of course been 483 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: involved all kinds of oppression. Do they want to be 484 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: a part of doing things better or do they want 485 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: to get a knock on the door from Delta Forest 486 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 2: at five am? 487 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: That's where they are now. I also think. 488 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: If you combine Iran and Venezuela, you have these countries 489 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: where the leadership has been telling the people for decades generations, now, hey, 490 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: we are standing up to American imperialism. We're not gonna 491 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: be bullied by Israel. We're not gonna be bullied by 492 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: the West. And then they can't even keep their president 493 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: from getting taken right out of his house and thirty 494 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: two of his top bodyguards being wiped out, and they 495 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: can't stop their nuclear ambitions. They can't even stop America 496 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: and Israel from flying over them them. I think what 497 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: we are seeing is a major geopolitical realignment. 498 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: It feels early. 499 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: You and I were kids in nineteen eighty nine when 500 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: the Berlin Wall came down, But man, when I look 501 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: at these protests that are going on in Iran, when 502 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: I see what's going on in Venezuela, when I see 503 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: what's going on in Cuba, it feels like the forces 504 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: of repression and the forces of socialism and communism are 505 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: Look they've lasted, maybe longer than people thought, because there 506 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: was the argument after nineteen eighty nine that we had 507 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: reached the end of history because every country was effectively 508 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: going to become a democratic republic embracing capitalism because it 509 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: is the best form of government for the overall freedom 510 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: and and financial success of everyone. 511 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: That is a reality. But they've held on. 512 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: And it feels like Trump is maybe in a Ronald 513 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: Reagan like fashion, in standing up against it in a 514 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: way that others have not been willing to, and challenging 515 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: it directly in a way that others have not been 516 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 1: willing to, almost pushing these last vestiges of left wing 517 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: excess off the off the cliff. 518 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 3: Am I crazy? Or do you see that? 519 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: And I know Iran is different because it's a theocracy 520 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: in many ways, but what it has in common is 521 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: just a repression of people and a restriction of their 522 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: ability to be exposed to the larger marketplace of ideas 523 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: in the world, and it feels like they are all 524 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: starting to crumble simultaneously based on the strength being shown 525 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: by President Trump. 526 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: I think they're being put on their back foot for sure. 527 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: I mean one of the one of the stories that 528 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: has come out of this raid is that the Chinese 529 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: provision of steamingly or supposedly sophisticated surface to air missiles, 530 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: air defense radars including or aerial defense radars, including anti 531 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: stealth technology, things like that, we're a total joke. So 532 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: whatever the Chinese were giving the Venezuelans as their client 533 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: state to help them protect their territory was a joke. 534 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: And this certainly also affects thinking about something like a 535 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: taiwan situation, where turning off the lights for the Taiwanese 536 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: and you know, cyber and things like that whole different 537 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: level of complexity and ballgame than doing it in Venezuela. 538 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna stry for the yeah, for the Taiwanese. 539 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: So the Chinese would have their hands full on something 540 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: like that. And clearly America still has some military advantages 541 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: that allow us to do something like this, So I 542 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: think that's that's a lesson that a lot of our 543 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: adversary take out of this. But you know, look Russia, 544 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: as long as the world still runs on hydrocarbons, Russia 545 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: is gonna have tons of money, a big military, lots 546 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: of nukes, and the ability to throw its weight around. 547 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: China's a billion people and the second largest economy in 548 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: the world. You know, these are taking a step back. 549 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean these places are about to fall or crumble. 550 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: You think about something like the Assad regime, Clay, the 551 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: Assad regime in Syria. It got to a point in 552 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: twenty eleven, twenty twelve where there were actually suicide bombers 553 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 2: infiltrating like the inner sanctum of the Assad regime, like 554 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: they were right on the ropes. But you go back 555 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: to the eighties and what was it Tom Friedman with 556 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: Hama rules and the leveling of Hama after an uprising. 557 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: There these guys, these scumbag tinpot dictators, theocrats, whatever, all 558 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: they really focus on is staying in power yea, because 559 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: that's their whole. 560 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 3: So even when everything. 561 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: Around them is crumble, I mean, look at North Korea, 562 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: even when everything around them is crumbling and falling apart, 563 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: even when by all rights and sanity they shouldn't be 564 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: able to hang on. They hang on, you know, this 565 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: is what it's so. I just don't want to get 566 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: too far. Like we've been talking about Iran falling for 567 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: as long as I've been alive. 568 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and by the way, Maduro, to your point, 569 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: Trump offered him a gilded existence in a foreign country, Turkey, 570 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: I think where he could live in, you know, splendor 571 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: and excess for the rest. 572 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: By the way, better weather than Russia, at least you 573 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: for long the coast you go to like ismir or 574 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: something decent. Kebab you get donner kabab with the yogurt, very. 575 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 3: Good, definitely better than a New York City prison. 576 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: Better food than Russia, for sure. I wouldn't get that 577 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: excited about the the Asad move, Like apparently he just 578 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: plays FIFA the soccer game or not it's Fifa FC now. 579 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: He plays like soccer video games all day in a 580 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: You see that in an apartment in Mosque, really really funny. 581 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: Moscow's cold in the winter, man, I take my eggs out. 582 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: What would be your if it had to be like 583 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 2: you can't do like Switzerland or England or something. If 584 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: you had to do a kind of adversary country, which 585 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: Turkey is not really an adversary. They're kind of a 586 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: midway paying the butt for US. But you know they're 587 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: an ally in some ways too. I know they're NATO. 588 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: What would be your country of exile? Oh, I would 589 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 2: go to like the British Virgin Islands. No, no, that 590 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: doesn't count. I'm talking of You got to go somewhere 591 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: that has like no extradition treaty. Yeah, I don't know. 592 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: There's not that many great non extradition treaty country. 593 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 594 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: No, no, dub buddy. Vietnam I think would be pretty high 595 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: on my list. Vietnam. 596 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: I like the food. 597 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: You know, you have to be concerned that they might 598 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: because like Vietnam has pretty good relations now with the 599 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: United States, so you should become an extraditible they could 600 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: offer you up. 601 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: I mean, the only place is where you are one 602 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: hundred percent not getting turned out if you are in 603 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: the world, really are Russia and China. I think that's 604 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 2: really North Korea if you could get in Okay, I'm sorry, Yeah, no, 605 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: North Korea too. But the only place is where there's 606 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: zero chance that if they don't want you to get 607 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: turned over, you're not getting turned over. Are those countries 608 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: you could say, oh, what about like European allies, We 609 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: can bring a lot of pressure. 610 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: To be I think Russia, look, whenever the Ukraine War ends, 611 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: which I think will happen at some point in twenty 612 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: twenty six, I think relations between Russia and the United 613 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: States could be decent. I think you might start to 614 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: have people just kind of get handed back and forth. 615 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: I was reading a good story about Witkoff and his 616 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: relationship with Putin and how that entire process came to 617 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: be when they got Fogel I think was his name the. 618 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 3: Hostage. 619 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: Putin just said, Hey, I'll potentially give you Fogel, but 620 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: you have to meet me one on one with no 621 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: apparatus otherwise there at all. And Wikoff just said, okay, 622 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: I'll do it, no preconditions. 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Uh, it's uh 659 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck on YouTube and it's growing and growing, 660 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: and this year we're gonna be doing a lot more 661 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: video And let me give you a little teaser here. 662 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: If you want to know how much Clay loves the 663 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: Christmas season, just check out our YouTube channel today after 664 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 2: you subscribe and see how his beard has gone fully 665 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 2: white like Santa Claus. It's amazing. He's decided, in solidarity 666 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: with Say Nick to have a almost entirely white beard. 667 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: Clay, I am impressed. I have not trimmed my beard 668 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: since we left the air on December nineteenth, so I 669 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: let it go pretty substantial and it is super super white. 670 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: And also I'm told that I look, according to producer Ali, 671 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: a bit like Kramer on Seinfeld when he was overly tanned, 672 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: at least based on the video footage. Right now now, 673 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm super tan because I was down in the Caribbean 674 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: for Christmas. But you'll only be able to see that 675 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: if you go and subscribe to YouTube channel. 676 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 2: Do you like to be called Father Christmas as part 677 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: of the season? Do you wear a red suit? 678 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 3: Like? 679 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 2: How do you really engage with this big white beard Clay. 680 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm a jolly fellow and I'm getting fatter, so this 681 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: might be my future.