WEBVTT - Ep. 68: Who Do We Predict at No. 17? | Jags A.M. Podcast 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.200 Welcome into a special pre draft edition of Jags A. 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.840 I'm kind Anne Stephen's here with John Osier. Brian Sexton 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:25.960 on location in Detroit, the site of this year's draft. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:27.520 Will check in with him a little bit later on 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.680 in the show. But John, we're getting there. It's almost 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:30.560 draft day tomorrow. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:32.880 Yeah, and I was thinking on the way over here today, 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.519 thirty drafts for me, thirty drafts for the franchise, more 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.800 far more significantly, they've picked number one and early in 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.360 the draft a lot, unfortunately, never picked late. You know, 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:45.159 that's where you want to be, picking in number thirty two. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.199 But this year, number seventeen, it's about as in the 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.519 middle as you can get, and about as in the 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.480 middle as they've ever picked. So an interesting thing, I think, 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.279 because they're so in the middle, trade up, trade back 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.800 as possible, and we'll certainly get into all that. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.120 We shall. Let's start off with big things. Our first 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.040 big thing today is going to be pick your poison, 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.360 because they are at seventeen. There's a couple of different 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.360 ways that could go with this. We've talked a lot 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.919 about possibly going cornerback route, but if you see somebody falling, 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.280 there's always that option to trade up. I still think 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.080 that's definitely in play, and John, we've talked about there's 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.480 other positions that we really wouldn't be surprised if they 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:20.920 went with that. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.280 You have been so focused on corner since this thing 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.720 started because I see a need and I see a 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.560 sort of a sweet spot with need value at that spot. 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:31.800 But there's people who think they may trade up for 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.600 a receiver. I'd be surprised if that happens. As possible 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:37.360 to me, and I'll get into this later in the show. 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.959 If you take offensive or defensive line. As I've gotten 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:45.039 older and crustier, I just believe that you can't go 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.760 wrong if you're stout, if you can affect the quarterback, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.720 if you can protect, if you can run block most 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.800 you know very few teams that are really good. There 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.160 are bad. If you have to go line, fine, go line. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.080 Never a bad thing to big strong guy in your 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:04.080 football team, that's for sure. Our second big thing today 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.360 is gonna be want versus need. Now, we heard some 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.960 from the general manager, who has not been known to 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.240 share very much, but he did say that if he 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.200 saw that they were at a point in the draft 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.760 where it was wants or a need versus best player available. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.519 You might hedge a little toward need. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.400 Well, most of the time, you know, there isn't that 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:29.400 biggest separation between a need and in another position, right 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:33.000 So when in doubt, you're gonna take the need if 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.440 it's close, obviously, if it's if there's a great distance 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.400 between the two, you got to weigh that out, you know. 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.040 And usually what we've done in the past is stick 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.160 with the formula to take the best player available. Now again, 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.320 if it's close, we're gonna take the higher need. 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:50.720 I think that's how most people would probably play it. 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.560 I'm sure that take the best player available. People are 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.120 pulling their hair out right right now hearing that. But 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:56.959 I mean, it doesn't make sense if you're one or 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.079 two picks off of someone and you don't think it's 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.680 a home run sure thing, you're gonna go with what 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:02.799 you need on your team right now. 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:06.960 Yeah, It's it's easy to get lost in the theoretical 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.600 part of BAP best available player. And I think what 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.560 I mean by that is when you talk about it 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.560 so much, we'll always take the best available player. Well, 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.799 there's this vision that you started the best player in 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.760 the draft, you go down to three hundred and thirty, 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.960 and then there's these huge gaps that make it obvious. Well, 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.640 the reality is there's usually clusters in the draft. There's 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.080 about seven or eight guys here that are about the same. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.960 You can't really if you ask to GM, hey, why 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.080 is this guy better, he'd say they're about the same. 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:38.000 So within those clusters, teams take need. So that's where 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.200 sometimes the BAP purist as I call them, can get 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.080 a little bit, you know, like philosophers, where they just okay, 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.440 they don't put it into real life all the time. 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.520 In real life, you can cluster these guys and then 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.680 choose your need, which is why kai you never see 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:54.800 teams take eight centers. 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.040 I mean we could use eight centers. Sure, well no, 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:59.920 I'm just kidding. We have a new center, we have 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.240 old sunder, and we have plenty of offensive line play 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.800 that could be something they address at the draft. Our 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:08.640 final big thing today Draft Day in Detroit. Brian is 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.400 on location and Detroit's already talking to people all day long, 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.080 and he's caught up with Daniel Jeremiah, who had a 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.600 little bit to say about who he thinks in terms 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.560 of Quinnon Mitchell maybe heading to this. 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:22.240 Team oh, Quinnon, Mitchell. It's a press corner every day 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.280 of the week and twice on Sunday, So that makes 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:25.960 the most sense to me for them. If you're thinking 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.600 about marrying a player with the team and you look 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.240 at the not only the press man, but just the traits, 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.520 you know, the height, weight, speed, combination, the toughness, the physicality. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.640 That kind of fits baal Key's background as well. So 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.640 if you're marrying a player that would be one with 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:41.960 the team that I think would make a lot. 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:45.680 Of sense to Dud Johnny's fan in the Flames. Could 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:46.360 be cornerback. 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.360 Yeah, again, I think it's cornerback. I think it would 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.360 be Mitchell if he falls to him or Terry and 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:55.560 Arnold is sort of who I'm thinking going with. So 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.560 it will be a draft. As Bucky Brooks has said 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.560 multiple t times on our channels, that shows you a 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:06.640 lot about what this team is defensively. I think you 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:10.800 will see press corner a huge priority, maybe tomorrow night, 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:12.720 because that's the way they want to play. I also 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:16.919 think you'll see it sometime again before Day three gets 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:18.440 very long. I think you'll see it before the fourth 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:19.040 fifth round. 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.120 Very good, all right, we're gonna take a quick break. 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.039 Then we'll check in with Brian, who is in on 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.760 location at Detroit in Detroit at the draft. We'll see 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:39.240 you right after the break. Move the fray, move the freight. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.560 Magellan Transport voted the coolest office space in Jacksonville. You 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.840 can apply online at Magellanlogistics dot com. 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.120 Al remember did a great jot of bearing me for it. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.000 So it's been long, but it's almost like the season. 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.400 Like the season is long as highs as low. But 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:56.000 at the same time, you gotta stay focused on the 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.599 end goal. And my goal is to get the whatever 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.680 organization or whatever organization next. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:01.599 I'm gonna go. 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.760 Out there and give him my all and I'll just 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:04.440 make a difference. 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.960 Alabama cornerback Terry and Arnold. That's someone we've been talking about. 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.680 John possibly headed to Jacksonville if he's still on the 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.760 board at that point. Let's check in with Brian, who's 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:18.080 on location right now. And Brian Sexson's in Detroit. He's 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.560 our draft guy there. What's been going on so far? 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:25.160 Brian, Well, we were out this morning with the players, 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:29.880 the prospects, and some special Olympians and some youth football 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.680 players over at the corner Ballpark. It was cool because 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.720 it was the site of the legendary Tiger Stadium here 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.680 in Detroit, so we got to spend some time. I 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.960 wouldn't say it's cold, right, I mean, the wind is 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.039 blowing at fifteen miles an hour, it's gray. It's I 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.640 guess exactly what you'd expect from the Upper Midwest in 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:48.520 late April. It could be seventy and sunny. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:49.159 It's not. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.960 It's cold. So we were outside, got a chance to 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.320 catch up with a couple of those guys and to 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.440 get a feel for it and just to kind of 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.600 get the buzz right. Talking to members of the media, 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.280 national media guys and John everybody seems to have their 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.560 eye on corner for the Jaguars. You know, there's a 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.280 little thought to maybe moving towards a receiver, but not 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.679 a lot of play for either offensive or defensive line either. 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.160 To talk to the experts in the NFL network, guys 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.440 that were round like Charles Davis, who I got a 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.800 chance to visit with, in Joel Klatt, and of course 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:22.760 Daniel Jeremiah, they all have put cornerback on the Jaguars list. 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.800 Here's what's interesting. It seems like they're gonna have the 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.680 pick of the litter, because there are teams that are 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.920 trying to maneuver their way into quarterback range and guys 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.360 who are falling back from the upper reaches of the 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.960 top ten back towards ten, eleven, twelve, where there'll be 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.840 a receiver or an offensive lineman. Seems like maybe both 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.360 of these corners are gonna slide through. Talking to a 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.520 reporter from Philadelphia, it's not sure that the Eagles are 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.760 that willing to move up for a corner because they 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.480 believe that Terry and Arnold or Quiny and Mitchell are 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.640 there and if they're not. There's a lot of people 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.440 that really like Nate Wiggins from Clemson, and you think, well, 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.040 there's only a hunter of seventy three pounds, but he's 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:03.560 got the speed that if he gets beat at the 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.640 line of scrimmage in a press man situation, that they 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.960 think he could turn and run and really make plays 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.120 down the field. And of course people like Cooper to 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.280 gen I like him a lot too. They call him 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.120 a chess piece of guy that you can play inside 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:19.800 outside either safety position. So there's four names that really 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.480 stand out at the cornerback position and the Jaguars seemed 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:24.800 to be in a position if that's what they're going 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.520 to take to get the guy they like the most. 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.360 Ryan, you got to talk to some of these guys today. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.400 Where are your impressions? I know you talked to two 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.200 of the cornerback prospects. 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.080 Yeah, well you just played a bit of the interview 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.960 with Terry and Arnold. Really a sharp kid from Tallahassee. 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.000 He played at John Paul the Second High School. There 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.000 is a half brother to Leon Washington, so he's got 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:48.480 a little Jacksonville tie. Would love the idea of staying 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.800 in the South of coming back to Jacksonville. When you 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:52.600 ask him what type of a corner is Can he 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.840 play mirror? Is he press? He'll do it all, but 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:57.960 he wants to be a shut down corner. Of course, 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.240 most of these guys are going to say that a 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.640 kid well spoken, a pretty good sized kid too. You 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.199 see the hype weight. He's five to eleven, one hundred 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.880 and eighty seven pounds, but seemed pretty sturdy. QUINYA. Mitchell 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.199 really an oppressive kid from Williston, Florida, about twenty miles 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.720 south of Gainesville. Has been playing up in Toledo. Doesn't 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:21.040 matter where he goes. Really a confident kid who knew 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.959 when he showed up in Mobile for the Senior Bowl 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.240 that he was gonna etch his name in Stone as 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.720 one of the top two cornerbacks in this draft and 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.640 is potentially a top ten draft pick. Even though he 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.960 played at Toledo in the Mid American Conference. He knew 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.760 his skill level was strong enough to be able to compete. 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.000 He did that in Mobile, He's done that at all 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:45.360 the workouts. Really a confident kid, well spoken, nice kid. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.760 Both of these guys seem like they're ready to take 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.800 that next step and not just play on Sundays, but 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.240 to contribute immediately. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:53.280 Yeah. 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.240 Kai, Both of these guys feel like pedigree guys, meaning 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.960 you never hear anything when you're talking to people about 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.720 the draft. You never we're hearing you hear very few 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:02.920 yeah butts. You know. 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:03.480 Uh. 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:07.600 They're both guys who love football, want to be a 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.439 lot better the second year than they are the first year. 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.160 They're both workers. I would think, just based on pre 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.959 draft vibe, if they're both there, you probably go with 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.320 Quinnion Mitchell because, as Daniel Jeremiah said, perfect fit for 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.800 what they want to do. He's sort of been you 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.199 see him rated more as the number one corner and 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.760 Terry and Arnold don't think you can go wrong with both. 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:32.760 And you know, if if they both slide there, it'll 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:36.560 be an interesting decision. But if they're both there, as 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.800 much as I like the idea of line, I'd be 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:40.560 hard pressed to say they go anywhere but at corner. 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:42.360 All right, we're all gonna kind. 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:46.880 Of talking con Brian just gonna say, talking talking to 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.720 people around here today and around the National Football League, 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.000 they think that Terry and Arnold gives them the positional 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:56.280 flexibility to play inside or outside. They think Mitchell's primarily 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.160 going to be an outside guy. And I know that 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.679 we've heard that Darnell Savage is to be that nickel 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.280 and play inside. So that's not a guy John that 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.480 they really need to target the inside. But Terry and 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:10.400 Arnold is thought to be able to thrive inside or outside. 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:11.920 So look to see what they like there. 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.120 If you're short termed, then you like Arnold because I 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:15.400 think they do need somebody who play. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.200 Now right away, all right, we're gonna shift a little 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.839 bit from cornerback. We're all gonna kind of who you got, right, 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.280 Who do you want to bang the table for where 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.840 do you want this team to go? Interestingly enough, we 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:26.400 all did not pick cornerbacks. We thought that was a 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.679 little too easy. So John, where would you go? Who 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.320 would you go out and say we need this guy? 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:31.920 Well, somebody gonna help me with the name, because I 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:38.440 always butcher it, but KAI got to thank you. I'm 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.839 not so much banging the table for him specifically as 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.040 I am the idea of line meaning I get corner 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.520 as a need. I think they're gonna get either go corner. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.800 I don't think you go receiver in round one because 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.440 it's such a deep receiver draft. I guess as I 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.360 get older and see more and more teams that lose 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.400 because they can't hold up on the offensive line, or 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.200 because you're not stout defensively because you're not getting to 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.600 the pass or I would have zero problem with either line, 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.920 even if it's an offensive lineman that can't start right 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.800 away bulking up getting solid to where you don't have 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:14.840 to worry about those two spots. So give me the 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:15.960 pass rusher here. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:16.640 Uh. 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.920 It would be a shock to people because we've been 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.319 talking so much about other spots. But if they step 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.400 up and say, hey, we needed more pass rush more pressure. 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.559 If that's what Trent Falke sanding the podium Thursday, I 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:28.880 wouldn't find that silly at all. 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:30.960 Brian actually caught up with Lot two a little bit 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.000 earlier today and he kind of talked about what he 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:34.480 would bring to a team's rush game. 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.719 I mean, I'm someone who's you know, in love with 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.640 pastor us and love in the game of football. I mean, 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.400 I'm always learning something new about pastors and you know, 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.040 being just very technical with what I do and making 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.040 sure that you know my band will you know, be 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:49.720 able to get me around those old linemen and at 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:50.840 least just always setting that up. 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.599 So I mean, Ran, I know you were impressed with 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:56.679 what you heard from Lot to in his interview. You 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.959 think you'd be a good fit if they were able 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.319 to get. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:05.440 All energetic kid, really an energetic kid and probably the 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.360 best all around pass rusher in terms of the number 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.480 of moves, and he's really athletic. You can just see 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.400 that he could get low and get that shoulder to 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.920 the ground and get around tackles. Told me that his 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.760 neck is just fine, and that's what most NFL teams 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.360 have found through the medical process. There'll probably be a 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.280 couple of teams that will shy away from that. Here's 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.000 the thing that really stood out to me. You know, 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.240 these guys talk about the end of their college season, 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.920 going right into their training right, and then it just 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.000 keeps running all the way through their rookie season. One, 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.160 he has the energy to handle it. Two, he's got 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.680 the perspective because he's a guy who a few years 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.280 ago was out of football. The University of Washington retired 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.880 him because they didn't want the liability for that neck. 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.280 So then after COVID he comes out, goes to UCLA 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.679 and is a tremendous pass rusher. He's a guy a 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.560 lot of people would like to see, and you can 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:51.720 never have enough pass. 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.200 Rush that maybe something where if they are able to 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.600 move up to get him. I did something similar. I 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.840 think if they're able to move up, if they see 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.280 Roma Dunze go past maybe five or six, I want 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:03.800 them to give up whatever they have to do to 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.960 go get him. I'm going wide receiver. I know a 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.160 lot of people have been saying this. You know, they 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.320 want to trade for t Higgins, they want Brandan Auke. 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:12.520 I would love to get someone in this draft. This 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.680 is a deep draft. Obviously there's the top three. Those 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.680 are the guys that are like the no doubters, right, 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:20.440 if you can have a chance at a Duneesa dropping 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.280 down to anywhere where you can trade up and get him, 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:23.520 you have to get him in. And if that's not 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.640 an option, I wouldn't be upset if they did. Ad Mitchell, 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:30.800 I know he's falling down some boards for different reasons. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.680 I don't know why I think that's an option. You 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.800 just need a speed guy that can separate. That's what 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:39.040 this team's been missing, A bigger, taller receiver that can 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.160 do that. If that's someone they can round out this 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.640 offense with and just go full Born score thirty five 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.120 points and everybody, that's something I'd love to see. I 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:47.400 don't know if that will happen. I don't know if 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:48.880 they'll try to get a wide receiver a little bit 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.760 later on because it is such a deep draft. But Brian, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.280 do you feel like they might be able to make some. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:57.680 Davis Well, Charles Davis doesn't think you're gonna be able 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.400 to sit back and have him slide. He told a 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.680 story about a couple of different gms he's talked to 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.560 who watched him at the combine. Remember, he was a 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:09.560 guy that had that lung injury, and two weeks later 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.280 he was back on the field and playing. He didn't 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:15.440 miss a game. He worked all the way through the 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.520 off week that Washington had, but he didn't get the 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.880 three cone drill that he wanted at the combine and 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.880 they were literally turning out the lights in the building 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.320 and he was off to the side, still working on 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:29.040 trying to get that time. And so apparently, again this 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.800 is from Charles Davis, this is a guy that NFL 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.080 personnel people love, and he doesn't think that the Bears 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:36.520 are going to have a shot at him, because he 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.160 was telling that to me and to a Chicago reporter. 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.280 He doesn't think that the Bears are going to get 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.560 him at nine without moving up. So at donsday's a 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.160 guy you're going to have to go up to get. Yeah. 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.840 Bucky Brooks on the Huddle of podcast this week was 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.800 really good on a Douneesday, basically saying that out of 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.320 the guys at the top, not denigrating anybody else, but 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.840 this is a kid who quote loves football, trying to 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:02.040 get better all the time. They consider him a very 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.840 safe pick in the sense that you know, he is 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.080 not going to let anything distract him from the job 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.600 at hand. Most guys are like that. He's probably a 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.320 little more like that than others. 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:15.880 Good to hear, all right, Brian, who's. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.520 Daniel Jeremiah called him a sleep well I was gonna say, 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.520 Daniel Jeremiah called him asleep well? You take roma, doun zay, 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.320 you sleep well. You don't worry about that. My guy 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:29.960 is Troy fontinatt fa oh tanu there, I can't say 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.400 it fast Otano from Washington. I had a guy in 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.920 Dallas tell me that he believed that it was this 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.560 year's Zach Martin. And for a team that was as 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:44.080 ineffective at converting in short yarded situations and running the 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.040 ball between the tackles, who doesn't need Zack Martin. A 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:52.840 perennial All Pro offensive lineman probably could play right tackle 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.520 because he's got the same size profile and really long 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.520 arms like Leon SEARSI probably not a left tackle in 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.840 the NFL, though that's what he played at Washington. In 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.960 other words, this is a guy who's a great offensive lineman, 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.400 can really play wherever you want, from right tackle over 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:08.240 to left guard. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:09.440 But would give you. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.720 A guy on the inside that would be thought of 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.760 as one of the best interior offensive linemen within the 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.119 first three years of his career. I've been on the 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.760 offensive lineman bandwagon since we started this process, so I'm 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:25.600 staying with it. And I'll take Troy fa Otanu as 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:27.760 the guy that I would stand and bang the table with, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.080 because who doesn't need a great offensive lineman. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.080 Yeah, wouldn't mind seeing it. It feels to me like 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:34.920 this is a little bit of an all in year 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.439 in terms of what they did in free agency, what 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:36.879 they didn't. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:37.119 Uh. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.119 I think they're going to do in the draft. So 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.480 I think they're going a little more for need. And 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.160 that's why I keep saying corner and you know, within 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:49.119 this scope, it's gonna be corner. Brian, I'd have no 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.280 problem with this guy. Would like to see them stouter 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:53.119 on both sides. 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.720 As we've learned, you can never have too many offensive linemen. 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:57.600 Yep. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.359 I'll just leave you with this thought from Detroit, and 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:03.640 that is there's just a strong corner vibe with the Jaguars. 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:06.600 I don't know that they're on it because Trent Balky 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.320 is not a guy who throws his opinion even behind 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.680 the scenes. He's very tight with what he's thinking. Don't 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.920 know what the head coach is thinking, so my guess 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:18.919 is as good as anyone's. But I just have this 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.600 sense that John corners where they're going. 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:23.879 Brian, thanks for joining us. We'll be checking in with 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:25.880 you again tomorrow live from the Draft. 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:28.960 You got it, guys, have a great rest of the show. 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:31.600