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Speaker 1: Welcome into a special pre draft edition of Jags A.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind Anne Stephen's here with John Osier. Brian Sexton

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Speaker 1: on location in Detroit, the site of this year's draft.

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Speaker 1: Will check in with him a little bit later on

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Speaker 1: in the show. But John, we're getting there. It's almost

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Speaker 1: draft day tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was thinking on the way over here today,

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Speaker 2: thirty drafts for me, thirty drafts for the franchise, more

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Speaker 2: far more significantly, they've picked number one and early in

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Speaker 2: the draft a lot, unfortunately, never picked late. You know,

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Speaker 2: that's where you want to be, picking in number thirty two.

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Speaker 2: But this year, number seventeen, it's about as in the

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Speaker 2: middle as you can get, and about as in the

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Speaker 2: middle as they've ever picked. So an interesting thing, I think,

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Speaker 2: because they're so in the middle, trade up, trade back

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Speaker 2: as possible, and we'll certainly get into all that.

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Speaker 1: We shall. Let's start off with big things. Our first

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Speaker 1: big thing today is going to be pick your poison,

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Speaker 1: because they are at seventeen. There's a couple of different

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Speaker 1: ways that could go with this. We've talked a lot

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Speaker 1: about possibly going cornerback route, but if you see somebody falling,

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Speaker 1: there's always that option to trade up. I still think

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Speaker 1: that's definitely in play, and John, we've talked about there's

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Speaker 1: other positions that we really wouldn't be surprised if they

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Speaker 2: You have been so focused on corner since this thing

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Speaker 2: started because I see a need and I see a

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Speaker 2: But there's people who think they may trade up for

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Speaker 2: a receiver. I'd be surprised if that happens. As possible

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Speaker 2: to me, and I'll get into this later in the show.

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Speaker 2: If you take offensive or defensive line. As I've gotten

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Speaker 2: older and crustier, I just believe that you can't go

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Speaker 2: wrong if you're stout, if you can affect the quarterback,

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Speaker 2: if you can protect, if you can run block most

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Speaker 2: you know very few teams that are really good. There

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Speaker 2: are bad. If you have to go line, fine, go line.

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Speaker 1: Never a bad thing to big strong guy in your

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Speaker 1: football team, that's for sure. Our second big thing today

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Speaker 1: is gonna be want versus need. Now, we heard some

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Speaker 1: from the general manager, who has not been known to

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Speaker 1: share very much, but he did say that if he

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Speaker 1: saw that they were at a point in the draft

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Speaker 1: where it was wants or a need versus best player available.

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Speaker 1: You might hedge a little toward need.

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Speaker 3: Well, most of the time, you know, there isn't that

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Speaker 3: biggest separation between a need and in another position, right

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Speaker 3: So when in doubt, you're gonna take the need if

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Speaker 3: it's close, obviously, if it's if there's a great distance

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Speaker 3: between the two, you got to weigh that out, you know.

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Speaker 3: And usually what we've done in the past is stick

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Speaker 3: with the formula to take the best player available. Now again,

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Speaker 3: if it's close, we're gonna take the higher need.

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Speaker 1: I think that's how most people would probably play it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that take the best player available. People are

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Speaker 1: pulling their hair out right right now hearing that. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't make sense if you're one or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's easy to get lost in the theoretical

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Speaker 2: part of BAP best available player. And I think what

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Speaker 2: I mean by that is when you talk about it

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Speaker 2: so much, we'll always take the best available player. Well,

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Speaker 2: there's this vision that you started the best player in

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Speaker 2: and then there's these huge gaps that make it obvious. Well,

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Speaker 2: the reality is there's usually clusters in the draft. There's

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Speaker 2: about seven or eight guys here that are about the same.

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Speaker 2: You can't really if you ask to GM, hey, why

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Speaker 2: So within those clusters, teams take need. So that's where

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Speaker 2: sometimes the BAP purist as I call them, can get

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Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, like philosophers, where they just okay,

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Speaker 2: they don't put it into real life all the time.

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Speaker 2: In real life, you can cluster these guys and then

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Speaker 1: I mean we could use eight centers. Sure, well no,

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Speaker 1: that could be something they address at the draft. Our

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Speaker 1: final big thing today Draft Day in Detroit. Brian is

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Speaker 1: on location and Detroit's already talking to people all day long,

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Speaker 4: Team oh, Quinnon, Mitchell. It's a press corner every day

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Speaker 4: of the week and twice on Sunday, So that makes

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Speaker 4: the most sense to me for them. If you're thinking

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Speaker 4: at the not only the press man, but just the traits,

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Speaker 4: you know, the height, weight, speed, combination, the toughness, the physicality.

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Speaker 4: That kind of fits baal Key's background as well. So

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Speaker 4: if you're marrying a player that would be one with

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Speaker 1: Of sense to Dud Johnny's fan in the Flames. Could

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Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I think it's cornerback. I think it would

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Speaker 2: Arnold is sort of who I'm thinking going with. So

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Speaker 2: it will be a draft. As Bucky Brooks has said

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Speaker 2: multiple t times on our channels, that shows you a

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Speaker 2: because that's the way they want to play. I also

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Speaker 2: think you'll see it sometime again before Day three gets

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Speaker 1: Very good, all right, we're gonna take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll check in with Brian, who is in on

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Speaker 1: location at Detroit in Detroit at the draft. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you right after the break. Move the fray, move the freight.

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Speaker 5: Al remember did a great jot of bearing me for it.

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Speaker 5: So it's been long, but it's almost like the season.

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Speaker 5: Like the season is long as highs as low. But

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Speaker 5: at the same time, you gotta stay focused on the

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Speaker 5: end goal. And my goal is to get the whatever

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 5: Out there and give him my all and I'll just

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Speaker 1: Alabama cornerback Terry and Arnold. That's someone we've been talking about.

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Speaker 1: John possibly headed to Jacksonville if he's still on the

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Speaker 1: board at that point. Let's check in with Brian, who's

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Speaker 1: on location right now. And Brian Sexson's in Detroit. He's

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Speaker 1: our draft guy there. What's been going on so far?

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Speaker 6: Brian, Well, we were out this morning with the players,

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Speaker 6: the prospects, and some special Olympians and some youth football

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Speaker 6: players over at the corner Ballpark. It was cool because

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Speaker 6: it was the site of the legendary Tiger Stadium here

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Speaker 6: wouldn't say it's cold, right, I mean, the wind is

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Speaker 6: blowing at fifteen miles an hour, it's gray. It's I

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Speaker 6: guess exactly what you'd expect from the Upper Midwest in

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Speaker 6: late April. It could be seventy and sunny.

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Speaker 6: It's cold. So we were outside, got a chance to

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Speaker 6: national media guys and John everybody seems to have their

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Speaker 6: eye on corner for the Jaguars. You know, there's a

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Speaker 6: little thought to maybe moving towards a receiver, but not

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Speaker 6: a lot of play for either offensive or defensive line either.

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Speaker 6: To talk to the experts in the NFL network, guys

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Speaker 6: Daniel Jeremiah, they all have put cornerback on the Jaguars list.

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Speaker 6: Here's what's interesting. It seems like they're gonna have the

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Speaker 6: a receiver or an offensive lineman. Seems like maybe both

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Speaker 6: that really like Nate Wiggins from Clemson, and you think, well,

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Speaker 6: there's only a hunter of seventy three pounds, but he's

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Speaker 6: to be in a position if that's what they're going

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Speaker 1: Ryan, you got to talk to some of these guys today.

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Speaker 1: Where are your impressions? I know you talked to two

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Speaker 1: of the cornerback prospects.

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Speaker 6: with Terry and Arnold. Really a sharp kid from Tallahassee.

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Speaker 6: a little Jacksonville tie. Would love the idea of staying

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Speaker 6: ask him what type of a corner is Can he

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Speaker 6: play mirror? Is he press? He'll do it all, but

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Speaker 6: he wants to be a shut down corner. Of course,

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Speaker 6: kid well spoken, a pretty good sized kid too. You

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Speaker 6: see the hype weight. He's five to eleven, one hundred

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Speaker 6: really an oppressive kid from Williston, Florida, about twenty miles

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Speaker 6: matter where he goes. Really a confident kid who knew

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Speaker 6: that he was gonna etch his name in Stone as

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Speaker 6: one of the top two cornerbacks in this draft and

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Speaker 6: is potentially a top ten draft pick. Even though he

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Speaker 6: He did that in Mobile, He's done that at all

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Speaker 6: the workouts. Really a confident kid, well spoken, nice kid.

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Speaker 6: Both of these guys seem like they're ready to take

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Speaker 6: to contribute immediately.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Kai, Both of these guys feel like pedigree guys, meaning

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Speaker 2: you never hear anything when you're talking to people about

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Speaker 2: yeah butts. You know.

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Speaker 2: They're both guys who love football, want to be a

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Speaker 2: They're both workers. I would think, just based on pre

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Speaker 2: Quinnion Mitchell because, as Daniel Jeremiah said, perfect fit for

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Speaker 2: what they want to do. He's sort of been you

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Speaker 4: But would give you.

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Speaker 1: Brian's freezing in Detroit, So this is this is better.

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Speaker 2: It's good to talk to Brian. Wasn't what all right?

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Speaker 1: Let's do our mail bag here, John. Our first question

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Speaker 2: you can't pay a franchise quarterback that the league believes

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Speaker 2: this draft, where would he go? Probably number one? So

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Speaker 2: you still believe in the guy. If you want to

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Speaker 2: lock it up, it's.

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Speaker 1: Going to be very expensive, all right. Our second question

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Speaker 1: is Jerry from Jacksonville Beach, Florida. He says, you continue

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Speaker 1: to discount the idea of a wide receiver. I don't

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Speaker 1: get this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is a draft related question obviously,

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Speaker 2: so I don't discount the idea of hey, it'd be

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Speaker 2: great to get a one. I do discount the idea

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Speaker 2: you can go as low as round three and get

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Speaker 2: a starter. Now, I get they're starter than they're special

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Speaker 2: impact right away. There's also a belief in this offense

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Speaker 2: that you don't necessarily need that a number one alpha

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Speaker 2: receiver to be a good offense. I also think there's

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Speaker 2: other needs. The corner just seems like you get that there.

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Speaker 2: You can go receiver to contribute along with a good group.

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Speaker 2: I could be wrong. Maybe they go and get a

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Speaker 2: guy in the top ten. To me, that seems like

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Speaker 2: a lot of equity to give up to go get

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Speaker 2: a position where you're okay, and that there's other needs

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Speaker 2: on the roster. So we'll see tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Our final question is gonna come from Devin. He says,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Trevor Trevor. Is there any story with Etn's contract

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Speaker 1: a fifth year option? Do we suddenly doubt our running back? No?

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Speaker 2: And it's Trevor Trevor Trevor, because he's the quarterback, quarterback, quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and so that's what you talk about. You're also not

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Speaker 2: hearing a lot about Travis Etn's contract because he's a

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Speaker 2: running back. He has at least two years left, meaning

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Speaker 2: this he has one more you left on the deal.

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Speaker 2: They have a fifth year option. You would think they

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Speaker 2: would pick that up. That takes you through twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: And the reality is, look, I love Travis. This organization

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Speaker 2: loves Travis running backs for extensions for four or five

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Speaker 2: year extensions. Along the line is Trevor Lawrence. It's a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a different issue where you usually if

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Speaker 2: you love the guy, you franchise him. If you love

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Speaker 2: the guy, then you offer him a two or three

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Speaker 2: year deal. There's time on That is the biggest reason,

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Speaker 2: though I have no idea what they're going to offer Travis.

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Speaker 2: I don't know those details. But with quarterback, you lock

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Speaker 2: it up with wide. With running back, there's a little

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Speaker 2: bit more of a wiggle room to see. Let's how this,

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Speaker 2: Let's see how this plays out. Unfortunately, for the running

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Speaker 2: back position, it's less of a market where you get

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Speaker 2: locked up right away.

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Speaker 1: We've seen the running back market change a lot over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons, and as we've mentioned, they

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Speaker 1: want to probably see something in these next two years,

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Speaker 1: whether that be from the offensive line setting up the

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Speaker 1: run game a little bit more, or Travis himself.

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Speaker 2: It's just hard to commit to. I mean, it's it's uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, some running backs that I've covered have been

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Speaker 2: my favorite players to be around. Really wish that their

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Speaker 2: careers lasted longer over you know, the summary of the league,

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Speaker 2: so that they were treated better in terms of long

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Speaker 2: term contract. But the way teams do it, they believe

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Speaker 2: that there's a shelf life, so you don't necessarily come

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Speaker 2: in on year four and offer a five year extension.

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Speaker 2: The risk is too high, and it's it's the world

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Speaker 2: we live in right now, so that'd be that, that'd be.

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Speaker 1: That, all right, Davis, We'll come back after the break

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Speaker 1: I believe they're setting up a combine out there, john

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna run that?

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna rine it, but look at that 'ru

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Speaker 2: on the big board.

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Speaker 1: Look at us jagsam making the big board. Johnna. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to run the combine stuff? You want to

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Speaker 1: test your.

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Speaker 2: Forty Nobody wants to see that. It's not that it's

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Speaker 2: not that I don't desire to do it. It's it's

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Speaker 2: been requested that that not happen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, higher ups, Okay, that's fair. What will you be

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Speaker 1: doing instead of that today? On Draft Night?

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Speaker 2: On Draft Night, I'll be I'll be riding, I'll be

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Speaker 2: on the air with JP Shatick and uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: breaking down the draft.

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Speaker 1: Very good. I think we have a special happy audition

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