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Speaker 3: Well, it is Wednesday, so normally you don't get to

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Speaker 3: Girls Talkboys Talk. Kaylee Sutton, Jess Navarrees and Aisha Morrison

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Speaker 3: with you on this fabulous Wednesday, Ladies. I gotta be honest,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of hard to focus on football when there's

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Speaker 3: like one hundred bajillion things going on like in the

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Speaker 3: district and of course the Cowboys getting ready to play

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Speaker 3: host to the ACMs tomorrow. Red Carpet starts at three,

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Speaker 3: so pretty much around that time we will forget about

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Speaker 3: football and think about country music tomorrow, but that's tomorrow. Today,

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk a little bit about the rookies.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys who are on this list

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Speaker 3: I think can be both sleepers and also be immediate

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Speaker 4: So we are going to dive right into that.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Rookie Mini Camp gets underway starting on Friday, and

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Speaker 4: Be practicing throughout the weekend.

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Speaker 3: We get the opportunity to chat with them on Monday

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Speaker 3: or on Monday it feels like Monday, on Friday and

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Speaker 3: Saturday before the media availability goes away. But let's dive

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Speaker 3: into this rookie class. You've got quite a few drafted

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Speaker 3: players and then quite a few more undrafted players. Let's

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Speaker 3: talk about the draftees first.

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Speaker 4: When you look at.

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Speaker 3: The list of guys, and I know we touched on

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Speaker 3: think can kind of slide in and not only be

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Speaker 3: impact players, but are needed to be impact players pretty

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, girl, all you all you well?

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Speaker 6: I mean from the DT position, I think the loss

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Speaker 6: important here. And so Mazi, I think you know for

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Speaker 6: a fact, like Cowboys don't.

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Speaker 7: Play about their draft picks.

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Speaker 6: Typically they give them a fair shot to, you know,

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Speaker 6: to prove that they can make the team. De Marion

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Speaker 6: over shown is another gentleman that I think, especially given

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Speaker 6: that Michael was like, hey man, Samen, I'm a DN

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Speaker 6: out here in these streets, Like I believe that his

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Speaker 6: position and being a linebacker is going to be important

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Speaker 7: That DT position, d d N position.

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Speaker 6: I think that he's a guy that is going to

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Speaker 6: be able to I don't think he has any competition.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 6: I think that he can come in and be somebody

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Speaker 6: that can impact. I wrote it down, I wrote it,

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Speaker 6: you were talking about it, but I seem Richards, I'm

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Speaker 6: not sure, but I do feel like he's a guy

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Speaker 6: But really duce Vaughan again as a guy I think

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Speaker 6: a way to get him involved. These such a versatile players,

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Speaker 6: so many different things he can do. So I think

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Speaker 6: be gentlemen that you hope can come in and make

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm looking at really that tight end room

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Speaker 5: and not necessarily you know, Luke Scoonmaker as a player,

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Speaker 5: but the tight end room as a whole, and what

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Speaker 5: his addition really will bring and more than that, how

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Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy is going to really utilize them when he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting too, especially when you've got a Ronald

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Speaker 3: brought up schoon Maker. I have been waiting to talk

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Speaker 3: about this tweet y'all for a week now, but we

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Speaker 3: haven't had the opportunity. So for those of you who

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Speaker 3: don't know Douglas bar Klou, I've actually never said his

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Speaker 3: last name before.

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Speaker 4: But cool last name.

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Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, I've never actually said his last name.

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Speaker 3: But he does so much of our behind the scenes stuff.

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Speaker 3: I do a lot of radio. Anytime we do radio

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Speaker 3: hits with him, we go in his office. He clips

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Speaker 3: of you who don't know, he's a sneaky kind of

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Speaker 3: petty tweeter sometimes little petty, little funny. I've been sitting

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Speaker 3: on this tweet for a week now, he tweeted out

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Speaker 3: last week when talking about Schoonmaker, and I'm gonna read

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Speaker 3: this verbatim. Scoonmaker is of Dutch organ origin. According to Googling,

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Speaker 3: meaning clean maker. In modern Dutch it means janitor.

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Speaker 4: Stay with me.

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Speaker 3: Let's say Luke's Schoonmaker isn't afraid to do the dirty

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Speaker 3: work in the trenches, but he'll also run clean through

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Speaker 7: Oh it's a bar. Okay, literally, Oh my gosh, it's

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Speaker 3: And I know that we had this conversation last week

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Speaker 3: that the Cowboys when they went into this draft, like

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Speaker 3: the theme has been versatility for I don't know how long,

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Speaker 3: but when you look at this draft, it's so reflective

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Speaker 4: You look at a guy Luke Schoonmaker who used to

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Speaker 3: He talked about it whenever he was in that pre

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Speaker 4: On the conference call, you talked about his.

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Speaker 3: Experience with the quarterbacks and being able to understand reads

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Speaker 3: Is that how we're saying it, Jassey awesome, awesome.

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Speaker 5: Awesome Richards, which is so great for the pun that

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Speaker 4: But this is a.

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Speaker 3: Guy who you know, he plays offensive line. He's currently

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Speaker 4: He also used to play defensive end.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of these guys on the roster or

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Speaker 3: in this draft class, I should say, are all guys.

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Speaker 4: That are bringing a little bit of versatility.

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Speaker 3: And I think that that's super important when you look

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Speaker 4: Really didn't need that much.

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Speaker 3: Right Like, last year's team wasn't bad, last year's roster

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Speaker 4: You always can get better, you always want to build.

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Speaker 3: But I think when you look at this draft class,

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Speaker 3: there's some really good pieces in there that I think

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and I thank you for mentioning Schoon And

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Speaker 6: I can't believe I missed him when I was talking

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Speaker 6: But Lunda Wells came on the show and he mentioned

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Speaker 6: that on the draft show, and he mentioned that was

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Speaker 6: an important part of why they even you know, decided

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Speaker 6: to go with Schoon is the fact that he can

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Speaker 6: He played in a pro level offense, and so I

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Speaker 5: So absolutely, And what I really like too, is so

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Speaker 5: you're talking about, you know, retaining guys. We talked about

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Speaker 5: But one that you know, the front office brings up

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Speaker 5: two completely different kind of players here. However, they're around

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Speaker 5: class versatility.

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Speaker 4: I like any player that.

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Speaker 5: even more versatile. So I'm excited to see just this

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Speaker 5: tight end group in general. I felt like we're a

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Speaker 5: I'm so excitedly see it is.

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Speaker 6: It's a lot going on because there's a little thought

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Speaker 7: Maybe they like there's a lot of gentlemen in that

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it'll be a backed room for sure.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about, though, maybe some of the guys on

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Speaker 3: that they are question marks, but I think they were

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Speaker 3: interesting picks in terms of where they came and how

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Speaker 3: they came to be. Starting with the round six pick one,

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Speaker 3: seventy eight. Eric Scott, a cornerback out of Southern Miss. Now,

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Speaker 3: this is not a guy who lacks skill. He had

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Speaker 3: a tremendous senior season at Southern Miss. Two. When I

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Speaker 4: Like, this is a dB. Why are we looking at

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Speaker 4: because of it'sive stats.

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Speaker 3: But he has two interceptions, both of which were returned

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Speaker 3: So I love that he's not afraid to tackle. Eighteen

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Speaker 7: But again, don't count these guys out.

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Speaker 8: And yeah, for no reason, maybe I what they about

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Speaker 7: Girl, look at the highlight.

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Speaker 3: A lot of guys on this draft list to keep

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Speaker 3: to earn your place even though you've already earned it.

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Speaker 3: So I love, love, love getting to know these undrafted

442
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Speaker 3: free agents.

443
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Speaker 4: But there's two very.

444
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Speaker 3: High on my lists that I personally think could have

445
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 3: been drafted late sixth round guys, seventh round guys that

446
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 3: I think will quietly and not so quietly shocked some people.

447
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Speaker 4: I want to start with Hunter lip Key. I wanted

448
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 4: to make sure I got his name right before I

449
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 4: said it.

450
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Speaker 3: Hunter Lipkey, full back out of North Dakota State, And

451
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Speaker 3: I love that the narrative around North Dakota State has

452
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 3: shifted so much from like, oh, they're the FCS. Powerhouse

453
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 3: to like, No, they're cranking out some serious NFL talent

454
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 3: and so I love that that program is finally getting

455
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 3: a little bit more steam. But interesting position. He's a

456
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 3: full back. He went to the Senior Bowl this year.

457
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 3: He has accolades like out of out the window. I

458
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 3: started to write them down, but there was too many

459
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Speaker 3: of them. So we're not going to get into him.

460
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Speaker 3: Just know he's a great guy. He finished twelfth in

461
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 3: voting as well for the Walter Matan Walter Peyton Man

462
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 3: of the Year Award this year or so obviously he's

463
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 3: a great guy off the field as well. It's something

464
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Speaker 3: that Cowboys front office really enjoys. But as we sit

465
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 3: here and watch his tape, guys, this is a monster.

466
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 4: He's a force. I think he brings physicality.

467
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: I think he brings a super specific skill set to

468
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 3: a roster that hasn't really utilized a full back maybe

469
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 3: as as they could have. So I think that this

470
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 3: is going to be yet another weapon in the creative

471
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Speaker 3: arsenal that off this offense is trying to shift towards.

472
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Speaker 4: But this is definitely a guy I think we should

473
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Speaker 4: keep our eye on.

474
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Speaker 5: I also like his short yardage ability especially when you're

475
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Speaker 5: entering your post Zeke era with the Cowboys, because you're

476
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 5: you need that, Like I understand that that was Zeke's

477
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 5: go to area for the last few seasons, right, So

478
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 5: without that, that kind of puts you in a pickle

479
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 5: if you don't.

480
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Speaker 7: Have the right guy to do that.

481
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Speaker 5: And so he has that yak ability with which we

482
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 5: always like to talk about on the podcast because it's

483
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 5: so important. He has the cut moves and he's not

484
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 5: a traditional kind of fullback, but he's so versatile. And

485
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 5: again we're sticking with that theme of versatile. I was

486
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,959
Speaker 5: watching his tape last night and I was like, dang, dang,

487
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 5: dang with everything he was doing because he's just Yeah,

488
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 5: he's a powerhouse. He's powerhouse. That that is the one

489
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Speaker 5: word I would describe Hunter Lipkey with. So I'm excited

490
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Speaker 5: to see what he can do. And yeah, let me

491
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Speaker 5: add that.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, Aisha, from a full back standpoint,

493
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Speaker 3: can you kind of just explain maybe the importance of

494
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Speaker 3: being able to utilize a fullback and you know, maybe

495
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Speaker 3: how that what that role looks like and how a

496
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Speaker 3: Hunter could maybe fill that role.

497
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, absolutely, Like the fullback position is it's almost

498
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Speaker 6: like having an extra alignment out there. We saw, you know,

499
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Speaker 6: Kellen use McGovern as a fullback.

500
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Speaker 7: But when you have a guy that's more athletic, like.

501
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Speaker 6: This gentleman that can get upfield and to get to

502
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Speaker 6: the second level and put a body on people, it's

503
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Speaker 6: definitely it's definitely should open up the run game. But

504
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Speaker 6: what he's gonna do is lee block, and the idea

505
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Speaker 6: of him lee blocking and they're being like a douce

506
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Speaker 6: vond behind him. And then we talk about this running

507
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Speaker 6: back room. You mentioned it just Hunter Lifke being signed.

508
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Speaker 6: Really to me told me that Ezekiel Elliott's time here

509
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Speaker 6: was probably done because of the goal lineability, which I

510
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 6: think is so important when you look at the rest

511
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Speaker 6: of the running back room that isn't super powerhouse, you know,

512
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Speaker 6: running the ball. But I don't want to short change

513
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Speaker 6: a Hunter Lifke, Like this dude's a running back. He

514
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Speaker 6: has full back ability, but he is a running back.

515
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Speaker 6: And so to me, I think that that type of

516
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Speaker 6: versatility is gonna make it difficult for defenses because the

517
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Speaker 6: same way that we talk about the tight ends, like

518
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Speaker 6: is this guy blocking right now or is he gonna

519
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Speaker 6: slip right here? And I think this is so important

520
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 6: having guys like him, like a Douce Vond that can

521
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Speaker 6: slip in the backfield and be the last option for Dak.

522
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Speaker 6: So many times last year we saw there was so

523
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Speaker 6: many guys downfield and no one in that intermediate spot

524
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Speaker 6: to help back out. And this guy is a guy

525
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 6: that can be there, that can make something out of

526
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 6: nothing when your quarterback needs it. So I do think

527
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Speaker 6: as a full back also too, Mike McCarthy has a

528
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Speaker 6: reputation of using a full back.

529
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Speaker 7: He has a reputation, yeah is that a song? He

530
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Speaker 7: has a reputation of using a fullback in the run game.

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Speaker 6: So I really feel like this also has given us

532
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Speaker 6: an idea of what they're maybe trying to gear more towards.

533
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Speaker 7: And that's a you're gonna Suffer's scary. You're gonna suffer.

534
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Speaker 6: You're gonna we're gonna run the ball down your throat

535
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Speaker 6: and we might pass the ball outside and you're gonna

536
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Speaker 6: have to come up and tackle. So from the from

537
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Speaker 6: those two, the flexibility that he has as a fullback

538
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Speaker 6: and a running back, I think are very unique in

539
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Speaker 6: a sense for this offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like him a lot. I'm excited to get

541
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Speaker 3: him in the building. I'm excited to see, you know,

542
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,479
Speaker 3: kind of where his designation rolls like whore his boys

543
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Speaker 3: in the locker room gonna be like, who's he gonna

544
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Speaker 3: gravitate towards.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: And work is a tight end too, so it's like,

547
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Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know what his personality's like,

548
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 5: but if you have another guy in that tight end room,

549
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Speaker 5: I mean that tight end room is just stacked already,

550
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Speaker 5: and they're so fun to be around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they really are.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm like you said, just powerhouse.

553
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Period.

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Speaker 3: Super excited for a guy on the opposite side of

555
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 3: the ball though that again, I really think I was

556
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Speaker 3: surprised when he wasn't drafted. The Cowboys have a type

557
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Speaker 3: when it comes to HBCUs. It's no secret that they

558
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: like the Rattlers a little bit. A couple of big

559
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Speaker 3: name guys that have come from famou Nate Newton, Bob Hayes,

560
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 3: just to name a couple. So obviously they are another

561
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Speaker 3: program I think that's on the rise in terms of

562
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: cranking out NFL caliber talent, and that starts with Isaiah

563
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 3: Land defensive end out of Florida A and M University.

564
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Speaker 3: He's listed as a linebacker on the Florida A and

565
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Speaker 3: M website, which again I think falls into that similar

566
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Speaker 3: category as someone like Demarvin Overshown, who's going to be able.

567
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Speaker 4: To have a little bit of position flex.

568
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Speaker 3: But this gets a stud an All American at the

569
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Speaker 3: FCS level, twenty three tackles, seven sacks, one force fumble,

570
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Speaker 3: and two pass deflections. In twenty twenty two, he was

571
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Speaker 3: a Buck Buchanan finalist And my favorite favorite underrated thing

572
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: about this kid. Guys, he spent all five of his

573
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Speaker 3: years at Florida A and M. And I know that

574
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Speaker 3: that is such a small thing, but with the way

575
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Speaker 3: the transfer portal and nil money has been.

576
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Speaker 4: Moving, to me, this is a guy who doesn't give up.

577
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: This is a guy who recognized his ability wanted to

578
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Speaker 3: stick with it, you know, through with the rattlers HPU

579
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 3: putting all that on the map, and I really think

580
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Speaker 3: that that aspect of it is super special.

581
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Speaker 4: So kudos to him for being there for four years.

582
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Speaker 3: But aside from that, very similar to Hunt to Hunter,

583
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: this is a kid who's a baller and I think

584
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Speaker 3: has an opportunity to make it on the fifty three.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, man Like, it's so crazy because we talked about

586
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Speaker 6: in the draft showd DN. We feel so secure and

587
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 6: d N right now, But next year, I mean Drrin's

588
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 6: Armstrongs on the last year of his deal.

589
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 7: If I'm not mistaken, obviously you have tank. Sam Williams

590
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 7: is coming along, but that position is not secure.

591
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Speaker 6: Secure, right, And so seeing Isaiah la and I told

592
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 6: you I audibly yelled upstairs when I got excited. But yeah,

593
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 6: the commitment to the team and staying there is something

594
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Speaker 6: I thought was dope.

595
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Speaker 7: But this guy is just when I say, just the

596
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 7: natural pass rusher.

597
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Speaker 6: There's some guys you watch you just like, man Like,

598
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 6: he looks the part, and the bend is there, the

599
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 6: speed is there, the explosiveness, and he has that relentlessness

600
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Speaker 6: to him.

601
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Speaker 7: As far as pursuit.

602
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Speaker 6: I know a lot of people are saying that the

603
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 6: Cowboys maybe are looking at moving him to linebacker and

604
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Speaker 6: seeing what he can do as an outside linebacker just

605
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 6: because of his size. He's not a super big guy.

606
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 6: People are looking for him to put on a little

607
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 6: bit more weight. But I like his game and I

608
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 6: like the chip that he plays with on his shoulder,

609
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 6: Like it's very evident that he understands his ability and.

610
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Speaker 7: What he can be.

611
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 6: And with this coaching staff, we've seen guys develop into

612
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 6: things that maybe you didn't think they could be. And

613
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Speaker 6: so I think he's gonna contest, he's gonna flash, and preseason,

614
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 6: he's people going to be asking who is this guy?

615
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Speaker 6: And I, honestly I had a sixth round grade on him,

616
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Speaker 6: a high sixth round.

617
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 7: Grade on him. So there were plenty of people that

618
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Speaker 7: were surprised that he didn't go drafted. As for a

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Speaker 7: lot of HBCU.

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Speaker 4: Players, Yeah, I agree. I think like I said, I

621
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Speaker 4: was surprised.

622
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Speaker 3: I was surprised that there was only one guy from

623
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Speaker 3: the HBCU rank so that was drafted. Yes, I think

624
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: that that kind of there's obviously work to be done

625
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: in that avenue. But the best part about the NFL

626
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: draft is that a lot of these really cool stories

627
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: come out of these undrafted free agents. And there's a

628
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: lot of guys from that HBCU rank. I wrote down

629
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Speaker 3: a list just of guys who the Cowboys have had.

630
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: Everson Walls, who's very much in the building, still went

631
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Speaker 3: to Gramblin to me new some went to Winston Salem, Hollywood,

632
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: Henderson went to Langston and of course ed Tu Tall

633
00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: Jones out of Tennessee State.

634
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: So a lot of guys who.

635
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: Were impact guys on this in this Cowboys history, uh

636
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: have come from HBCUs. So I am excited to not

637
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: only continue to give that football a platform because it

638
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 3: deserves it, but also to just to see and continue

639
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: to prove that the guys that come from these schools,

640
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: you don't have to come from the SEC or the

641
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: Big ten or whatever it is to make an impact

642
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: on the football field.

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Speaker 7: Marqueespell too.

644
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Speaker 6: You forgot Marquis on this last right now, and he's

645
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 6: a guy that we are possibly looking to see, you know,

646
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 6: take a step this year also to another family guy.

647
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Speaker 7: So Cowboys definitely have they have their place where they look, yes,

648
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 7: or they're looking at good time and silver, But I

649
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 7: also believe orange and green ladies.

650
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Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

651
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Speaker 7: Wait, oh, I love what I didn't know I have

652
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Speaker 7: to get on.

653
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Speaker 3: Are there any other guys I know that the list

654
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: is kind of fluid, but any other guys on that

655
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: undrafted list that could be maybe sleepers again just contend

656
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: for a roster spot. Maybe you could see them on

657
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: the practice squad being impact players. I know there's a lot,

658
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: so we don't have time to get into all of them,

659
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: but anybody else said stands out.

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Speaker 6: Drel Johnson out of a liberty if I'm not mistaken, Dan,

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Speaker 6: like dude again, super super, super productive And Will McClay

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Speaker 6: uses that word productivity and how important that is to

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Speaker 6: those to them when they're looking at players. But it's

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Speaker 6: hard to deny what you see from him on film

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Speaker 6: and his ability to get to the UH, to get

666
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Speaker 6: to the quarterback as a from that DM position.

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Speaker 7: TJ.

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Speaker 6: Bass the guard out of Oregon. You know, we talk

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Speaker 6: about left guard and you know, I know that was

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Speaker 6: a big worry for us.

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Speaker 7: Big worry for me.

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Speaker 6: And he's another gentleman that I think is someone not

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Speaker 6: to keep an eye on through those times in that

674
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Speaker 6: competition because left guard, that depth there is kind of iffy.

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Speaker 6: We could see him possibly be a guy that makes

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Speaker 6: the practice squad or the roster in itself as a

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Speaker 6: depth piece. So yeah, there's a couple of gentlemen that

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Speaker 6: I think are guys to keep your eyes on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Earl Bostick Junior, because Wow,

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Speaker 5: this stat was everywhere but next genstat said that he

681
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Speaker 5: had the eighth best athletics score among offensive tackles at

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Speaker 5: the combine. He's good with footwork and pass pro and

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Speaker 5: his lateral quickness was something that I've noticed pretty quickly.

684
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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, dang, that's cool. And then somebody else,

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Speaker 5: Miles Brook's cornerback there, I think, because again, we can't

686
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Speaker 5: have two stacked of a cornerback room. You can't count

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Speaker 5: any of them out.

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Speaker 7: Really, he plays really good and press.

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Speaker 5: He's quicker than I thought he would be watching it.

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Speaker 5: And then of course what I'm interested in seeing is again,

691
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Speaker 5: never count anybody out just because they're an undrafted free agent.

692
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Speaker 5: But wide receiver David Durdin, I think is somebody else

693
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Speaker 5: to keep in mind because he's also a special teams

694
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Speaker 5: contributor and that is going to be interesting. And I

695
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Speaker 5: thought the most interesting story to come out of him

696
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Speaker 5: was that he's a former Red Sox prospect, so converted there.

697
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Speaker 5: I think that's pretty cool. He's a pretty speedy slot receiver.

698
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Speaker 5: So I think there's so much competition right now for

699
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Speaker 5: special teams that that could end up making or breaking

700
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Speaker 5: a lot of guys whether they make this roster or not.

701
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Speaker 5: So those are a couple of names that just I

702
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Speaker 5: saw off the bat.

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Speaker 7: Former tight end too, Yeah, former tight end first of all,

704
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Speaker 7: you can get that in his athleticism.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he could definitely work on like playing

706
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Speaker 6: with power, but the footwork and stuff is there. Jayalen Marino,

707
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Speaker 6: also too from Fresno State, is getting a lot of

708
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Speaker 6: a lot of conversation, a lot of talk and what

709
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Speaker 6: he can do as a receiver possibly down the down

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Speaker 6: the depth chart. Are you guys, uh, what do you

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Speaker 6: guys worried about Simi Fejoco and what his position might be.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was like worried about what is.

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Speaker 13: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Because I'm I'm not worried about Simmy. Here's what I think.

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Speaker 3: I think Simmy was in a very similar boat as

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Speaker 3: what Jayalen Tolbert was last year. I just don't think

717
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: he got as much pub about it because he did

718
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Speaker 3: have a couple of injuries that kind of kept him out.

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Speaker 3: And I think it was maybe easier, uh for the

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Speaker 3: front office and the coaching staff just to say give

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Speaker 3: and we'll attack it next year.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think we should be worried about Simmy.

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Speaker 3: I think if there's not substantial growth in terms of

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Speaker 3: of him and what are we actually getting out of him?

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Speaker 3: So I think training camp will be an interesting spot

728
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Speaker 3: for Simmy to re establish himself on this roster.

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Speaker 12: For sure.

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Speaker 7: I like that re established.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good way to put.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think like I don't And again, I

733
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Speaker 3: try not to be disrespectful to these guys because to

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Speaker 3: we try to approach this with a little bit of compassion.

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Speaker 3: But realistically, I think a lot of people forgot about

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Speaker 3: You know, we had an okay preseason and picked up

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Speaker 3: So obviously, the rookies, we will get our first look

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Speaker 3: But some of these guys have already been hard at

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Speaker 3: what they've been doing for both themselves and the rest

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Speaker 3: we teased it a little bit last week but didn't

814
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Speaker 3: really get to dive into it. Micha Parsons has declared

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Speaker 3: that he is going to play defensive end.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't want to play linebacker anymore. He's training to

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Speaker 4: be a defensive end.

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Speaker 3: I've seen all kinds of numbers floating around from him

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Speaker 3: on Twitter about how much weight he wants to put

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Speaker 3: on and where he's at. We know he's not here

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Speaker 3: focus on bulking up on weight. Good news, bad news

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Speaker 3: for the Cowboys defensive line.

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Speaker 7: What I think is good news.

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Speaker 6: I think I don't think he if I listened to

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Speaker 6: him correctly, He's not completely you know, exing out linebacker,

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Speaker 6: you know, just being able to rush from there and

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Speaker 6: all that. But I the idea of him putting on

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Speaker 6: more weight at d N and kind of preparing his

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Speaker 6: body and the commitment that he's taking is I haven't

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Speaker 6: got listening. I have not gotten to see that from

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Speaker 6: a player at this at this point in my career

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Speaker 6: just seeing like how he builds up that tolerance.

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Speaker 7: So this is the idea of Micah getting better or

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Speaker 7: bigger or.

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Speaker 6: I mean yeah, because even last year, with how much

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Speaker 6: teams tried to take him out the game and you

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Speaker 6: saw it affect him later in the season when he

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Speaker 6: needed to make a play, he still was able to

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Speaker 6: do that. And so to think that he's like callousing

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Speaker 6: himself to be able to deal with the brutality of

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Speaker 6: it through the year, I'm like, I don't know, there's

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Speaker 6: a different there's a different feel to Micah that as

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Speaker 6: far as trying to get better that I don't know

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Speaker 6: if I've seen before where he's like, I okay, He's

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Speaker 6: constantly trying to be better, and that's just it's crazy

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Speaker 6: to me, like calm down. It's like, calm down, is like,

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Speaker 6: but it's like, nah, don't calm down because we want

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Speaker 6: to be better. But anyway, Yeah, I think what we're

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Speaker 6: seeing from him, the commitment we're seeing it from him

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Speaker 6: to get his body right is important to this team

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Speaker 6: because there were times that teams tried to take him

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Speaker 6: out the game and you saw that wear and tear

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Speaker 6: later in the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I like that.

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Speaker 5: He You know, there are different numbers floating around of

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Speaker 5: how much weighed exactly, but it was funny. He tweeted out,

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Speaker 5: He's like people here bulking up and they think I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna gain all this weight. I'm only going for like

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Speaker 5: five pounds here in a healthy way. And I like

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Speaker 5: that he emphasized that in a very healthy way. And Yeah,

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Speaker 5: just seeing the workout videos that have come out so far,

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Speaker 5: if you haven't, go check them out on Twitter. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's scary because you see a healthy Mica Parsons again,

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Speaker 5: which you didn't see the tail end of the season.

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Speaker 5: You knew he was hurting, but he was still putting

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Speaker 5: it all out on the line. So to see him

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Speaker 5: healthy and be able to move quickly like that again,

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Speaker 5: I'm excited. I don't think anything you can do with

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Speaker 5: Micah is the wrong answer, to be honest.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb another guy who has been not so quietly working.

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Speaker 3: We've seen him in South Florida. I know for a

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Speaker 3: quarterback coach out there running with Jerry Judy and a

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Speaker 3: lot of the South Florida guys, so not only a

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Speaker 3: different climate that he's training through, but also just a

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Speaker 3: different group of guys maybe getting a fresh perspective. But

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Speaker 3: he's also kind of been out and about in terms

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Speaker 3: from a social standpoint, which I always think is cool.

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Speaker 3: It's so fun to see the metamorphosis sometimes of these

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Speaker 3: players as they go from like you know, rookies who

885
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Speaker 3: like you know, they think they're you know, hot stuff,

886
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Speaker 3: but they don't know how to act like they're hot stuff.

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Speaker 3: And then that, like I said this, that metamorphosis into

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Speaker 3: kind of these like stud guys because they are they

889
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Speaker 3: are stud. So it's been cool to see his development

890
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Speaker 3: as both the player and a person in the off season.

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Speaker 3: And then of course Dak Prescott has been so active

892
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Speaker 3: not only with himself and getting better, but just working

893
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Speaker 3: with the team. And I think it's going to bode

894
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Speaker 3: well from a chemistry standpoint when they get to training camp,

895
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Speaker 3: they'll at least have that comfortability. And I would imagine too,

896
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Speaker 3: he's instilled a little bit of that competitive fire.

897
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Speaker 4: In them too.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you're out there, it's one thing, and

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Speaker 3: again I mean this respectfully, like when you're out there

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Speaker 3: running routes with maybe a drafted quarterback or the backup quarterback.

901
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: You know, it's one thing to get the reps in,

902
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: but to do this with your starting quarterback and to

903
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: kind of feel that excitement of like, oh that this

904
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: could be me if I keep working my butt off.

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Speaker 4: I think that that's really cool too.

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Speaker 5: What I'm interested to see too, and you're seeing a

907
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 5: little shimmer of it now, is the dynamic between CD

908
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Speaker 5: and Dak and how that's growing, especially now with Zeke

909
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Speaker 5: not in the building, because you're missing Dak's go to

910
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Speaker 5: guy that's been his go to since day one, and

911
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Speaker 5: now without that dynamic here, Ceed kind of becomes that

912
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Speaker 5: guy for Dak, and so I think what you're going

913
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Speaker 5: to see is you're seeing that already. You know, they

914
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Speaker 5: were in Florida together, they've been training a lot of

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Speaker 5: this offseason together.

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Speaker 7: But you're also gonna see it with the chemistry, like

917
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Speaker 7: you mentioned.

918
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Speaker 5: Haley on the field, of Dak truly having that trust

919
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Speaker 5: wholeheartedly that CD is my go to guy. And so

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Speaker 5: I'm really excited to continue to see CD transform because

921
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Speaker 5: this is his first season that we see him walking

922
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Speaker 5: into with that mindset of I am wide receiver one,

923
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Speaker 5: this is this is my spot.

924
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Speaker 7: I belong here.

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Speaker 5: As compared to last year, you saw the transformation kind

926
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Speaker 5: of happening in real time. You're seeing a new CD

927
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Speaker 5: walking in day one, ready to believe that that position

928
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Speaker 5: is his own it and get ready to go and

929
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Speaker 5: him and Dak and that chemistry is just gonna I

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Speaker 5: think it's really gonna grow and it's gonna be really really.

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Speaker 4: Fun to watch.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the dockyard is unique, and the fact that they

933
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Speaker 6: those guys take that time. We've seen Ferg out there,

934
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Speaker 6: We've seen Hanny out there, You've seen Jalen Tolbert, who

935
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Speaker 6: we're looking to make a next the next step, the

936
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Speaker 6: next jump.

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Speaker 7: Obviously during the off season and we know that the.

938
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Speaker 6: NFL doesn't allow, you know, those together workouts, and for

939
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Speaker 6: those guys, these guys to take the initiative to do that,

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Speaker 6: I think it's important, like you said, to team chemistry.

941
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Speaker 6: But we also have to remember that there's a new

942
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Speaker 6: offense to some degree being installed. So those gentlemen probably

943
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 6: are refining and going through some of these little different

944
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 6: changes that are going to be happening. We'll be able

945
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Speaker 6: to see that in camp pretty soon. But I think

946
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Speaker 6: that is a big part of why they're working as well,

947
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 6: is that so once they get to camp, it's not

948
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Speaker 6: all new stuff that they're trying to learn. I'm sure

949
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Speaker 6: they're trying to implement some of what they're being taught

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Speaker 6: by Schottenheimer and McCarthy into some of what they're doing

951
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Speaker 6: outside this building.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's exciting.

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Speaker 3: I think it makes me feel excited because that means

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Speaker 3: that OTAs are coming up next and then it'll be

956
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Speaker 3: training case.

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Speaker 7: It's nuts, y'all doing what off season and by what

958
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Speaker 7: off season?

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Speaker 3: So much to talk about always, but that is all

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Speaker 3: we are going to talk about today and Girls Talkboys Talk.

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Speaker 3: But good news for you guys. We're going to do

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Speaker 3: this all again next week, back on our regularly scheduled

963
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Speaker 3: time on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: But that'll do it.

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Speaker 3: We will have your rookie reports coming out this week

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Speaker 3: and we will talk all about it next week on

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Speaker 3: Girls Talk, Boys Talk.

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