1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: But they forget that Ukraine isn't the kind of country 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: you go all in on. 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: I honestly can't imagine anyone in their right mind picking 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: Ukraine as an ally when Russia is the other option. 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: I mean, just think about it, massive nuclear power, loaded 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: with natural resources. Everyone needs, literally the biggest country on 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: the planet. And haha, there's Ukraine, which has Chernobyl and 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: some radiation proof dogs. 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Biden administration is like, oh, yeah, this is 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: definitely the ally we need. Let's dump all our money 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: into them. Honestly, if anything, the US should have been 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: sending weapons to Russia. 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 4: Pretty shocking stuff from Don Trump ju year yesterday on 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 4: a podcast immediately recognizable voice, shocking statements. 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: As you say, I got a little squinty listening to it, 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: but only because it was too much that is AI generated. 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure ever said that. I'm not sure I 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: would have. 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: I don't know, based on some of the things his 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 4: dad had said in the last week or so. I'm 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 4: not sure I would have jumped to that this can't 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 4: be real. 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 5: Oh, I was not confident at all. 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying I thought, wait a minute, there's 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: there's something just a little too odd and perfect and 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: over the top radiation proof dogs Don Junior does have 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: a pretty good sense of humor, but honestly, if it 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: had been a little more subtle, I would have bought 34 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: it completely. 35 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: Well, it got retweeted by an awful lot of legit organizations, 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 4: Democrats and some Republicans are more pro supporting Ukraine, and 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: a lot of those people have pull it down later 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: in the day when it became clear that it was 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: AI generated. And I think this is the most the first, 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: most successful time people have been hoodwinked in an important story. 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: It's going to happen a lot more in the future. 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 4: It helps that it's just it was just audio in 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 4: a podcast, so you didn't have any of the video stuff. 44 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: All the video gets. 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: Better every single day, and pretty sure we'll be completely 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 4: falling for that. And even with the corrections and the 47 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: people who pulled it down, what percentage of people who 48 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 4: heard that heard the correction later. 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: In the day that that wasn't real. I've seen studies 50 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: on that very thing, and it's a tiny fraction sure, 51 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: of course, that actually hears the retraction the correction, and 52 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: the original misperception becomes much much bigger. Yeah, yeah, that's 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: a problem. 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: It is a real problem, not only on the practical level, 56 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: because you can be so easily fooled. 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 5: I mean any human being. Heck, were made to recognize. 58 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: Each other's voices and each other's faces, that's our method 59 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: of identification, and so on a practical level, obviously. 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 5: You could mislead people seriously. 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: But on that second level, and this is the part 62 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: that really troubles me, And this is the point of 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: a lot of propagandas not to convince you of anything specific, 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: but to convince you that there is no knowing the truth. 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: Give up, there's no way to discern the truth. We 66 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: are going to discourage you to the point that all 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: you can do is obey. And I think AI could 68 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: easily get us to that point. I mean, if you 69 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: have a perfect Don Junior saying something outrageous but not 70 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: like two over the top, the effectiveness of that would 71 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: be near one hundred percent. 72 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 5: And then where do you go. 73 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: As a consumer of news, information and opinion, what do 74 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: you do? I don't know. 75 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 5: Wait, I suppose. 76 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: Maybe as a species or as a society, will get 77 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: a little less anxious to leap to opinions and immediately 78 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: clap back. We'll have to go through a process of 79 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: could be legit, maybe not. We've got to wait and see. 80 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: I would like to think that we're going to gravitate 81 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: back toward gatekeepers the way we used to have with 82 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 4: and I realized this is flawed and that they were 83 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: all left leaning, but it was, you know, your big 84 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: evening newscasts, big newspapers, big magazines were gatekeepers, and you 85 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 4: had at least some reason to believe that they were 86 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: trying to not feed you things that were completely inaccurate. 87 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: But I don't know if people have any interest in that. 88 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 5: No, No, that's a really good question. I don't know either. 89 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: There's a real difference between the kron kite left and 90 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: the woke left. Oh heck, yeah. 91 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 5: But I don't know if there's enough. 92 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: Of a market for it to overcome the clickbaity, you know, 93 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: bubble information, information biased society. I don't know. I doubt it, honestly, Yeah, 94 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't I have no idea where this is going. 95 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 5: That's interesting to watch. We're going to live through it, 96 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 5: so yeah, no kidding. 97 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: You know. The only thing that heartens me at times 98 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: like this was, you know, we've gone through revolutions and 99 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: wars and meteors and plagues and as human beings and 100 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't buy it. This is why I didn't get 101 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: to the end. I know the end. This is different. Well, 102 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: the end is a planet of the beavers. As I've 103 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: made clear. You want to talk about something I am 104 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: certain about, that is it? 105 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 6: No? 106 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: I know. The argument is always like, there's been all 107 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: kinds of major changes in society that have been deemed 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: that will be the end of the world, whether it's 109 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: rock and roll music or the printing press or television 110 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: or whatever the hell. But this is different. Speaking of 111 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: deep fakes and AI and cheap fakes, Jake Tapper's book, 112 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: can we talk. 113 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 5: About that for another minute or two? 114 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Fourteen? This is Joe Conshew on Fox News. I think 115 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: he's sums it up pretty well. Tapper writing this book 116 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: is like Hannibal Lecter writing one on the dangers of cannibalism. 117 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 5: It's original sin. 118 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 1: President Biden's decline it's cover up in his disastrous choice 119 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: to run again. And I like Tapper, who could not 120 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: have been a more enthusiastic. 121 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 5: Cover upper coverver rupper of. 122 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: The president's mental decline than he was. Just unbelievable. 123 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: And I like to picture on the cover of the 124 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 4: book and it comes out in May, it's Joe Biden 125 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: with is it his hands over his eyes or somebody 126 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: else's hands over his eyes, but anyway, it's basically the 127 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 4: we're not gonna look at you know, we're gonna we're 128 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 4: gonna blind ourselves to reality. 129 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 5: Well, you were part of it. 130 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: So the fact I knew this book would come out 131 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: at some point, but I didn't think it'd be by one. 132 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: Of the participants right in the cover. So incredibly egregious 133 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 5: and worth noting. Klippner thirteen Hanson that. 134 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: While anybody like us who was stating that which was 135 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: plainly clear, would receive nasty pushback. The White House is 136 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: calling cheap fakes. We're hearing about so called cheap fakes. 137 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: It's playing out on right wing media. These videos, I mean, 138 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: they're blatant lies. 139 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 5: These are cheap fakes with the White House and Biden. 140 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: People call them cheap fakes are a little bit simpler. 141 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 5: They're cheap. 142 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 7: They're just disorted, out of context, videos chopped up in 143 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 7: certain ways, constructed in certain ways. 144 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: Several of those clips from CNN, well, right. 145 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 4: We played the clip yesterday of Jake Tapper yelling at 146 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 4: somebody who brought up it was a Republican who brought 147 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 4: up on his show, Joe Biden's you know, mental decline, 148 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: and Jake Tapper said, oh no, no, these are talking points. 149 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: The guy has a stutter. You have no evidence what 150 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: you're diagnosing him from Afar? You know that he's senile. 151 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: Come on, when the American people could figure it out, 152 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: and you're going to write a book President Biden's decline, 153 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: its cover up, and his disastrous choice to run again? 154 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: Did you call it a disastrous choice at the time? 155 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: And I read one on this point out that two 156 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: months after the inauguration, she was writing about how Biden 157 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: forgot the name of the Pentagon as well as the 158 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: name of his secretary of Defense and wrote, these are 159 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: not isolated incidents, These are not selectively edited clips. 160 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: Something is wrong with Biden and it should concern all 161 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 5: of us. 162 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: That was two months after the inauguration and honestly throughout 163 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: the campaign. When he would wander off, not take questions. 164 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: He had prompts telling him stage directions, identifying press Corps members. 165 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: He would only answer a couple of questions. He would 166 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: stammer out his answers, Robert her declining to prosecute for 167 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: the reasons we all discussed kindly old man with a 168 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: bad memory, So putting you know, another layer of are 169 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: you kidding me? On top of Tappers just incredible hypocrisy 170 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: is the idea that And it all happened in the 171 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: last six weeks or so of his presidency, and they 172 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: covered it up, and now I'm bravely writing about it. 173 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 4: What I often think Molly Hemingway's over the top. But 174 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 4: she had a funny tweet response to Jake Tapper's book release. 175 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 4: She tweeted out lots of capital letter words in here, 176 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: the mother bleeping audacity of you to do this after 177 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 4: running twenty four or seven interference on behalf of him 178 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: and mocking and attacking every single person who noticed Biden's decline. 179 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 4: The mother beleeping audacity, Have you no decency? 180 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: Have you no shame? That is a perfectly reasonable response. Wow, Wow, Yeah, 181 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: I think it is well, you know what, I'm gonna 182 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: leave it there. It's it is self beclownman of a 183 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Titanic proportion. I can't even it. It's difficultiable Is this 184 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: a deep fake? Is this a really kind of clever 185 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: double reverse trying to convince us that Jake Tapper, of 186 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: all people, has the audacity to write a book informing us. 187 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: Now you gonna want to sit down for this. Joe 188 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: Biden had a serious metal decline, was senile, and some people, 189 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: including the media, we're covering it up. 190 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 5: Come on, nobody'd have balls that big. 191 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: Please, I can't believe it's true. 192 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is something. I also bet there's some really 193 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 4: good stuff in the book. I mean, he's clearly checked 194 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: his shame, hypocrisy, whatever at the door. But I'll bet 195 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 4: there's some really good nuggets in that book about people 196 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 4: covering it up. 197 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: So I look forward to it. Well, here's a multi 198 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: multi layered Twitter storm from this alleged independent journalist explaining 199 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: how these pieces he's talking about, the dozens of pieces 200 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: that came out of journalism in the wake of the 201 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: her announcement, These pieces are baseless. They can't be evaluated 202 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: because of ani total memory lapses just utterly unfair, no 203 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: medical basis irresponsible. So do you think there's a chance 204 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: that we're misreading it and we're all so. 205 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 5: Not bubbled? 206 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: But like, I don't know a slave to our wishes 207 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: that they just they actually couldn't their their minds wouldn't 208 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,239 Speaker 4: let them see his decline. 209 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: That's a fascinating question. I have no idea the answer 210 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: of it. I wish it were possible to answer that question, 211 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: because I'd love to hear it. Jake Tapper is a 212 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: smart guy, and we've talked to him before. He for 213 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: the longest time I thought he was a very reasonable 214 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: and very good journalist. This is inexplicable unless it is 215 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: it's either ideology, deliberate dishonesty, or some aspect of the 216 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: human mental condition like you're suggesting. That is scary and 217 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: I'd love to know more about. 218 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, like getting back to our dear abbey thing did 219 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 4: last hour? I've seen this happen before, and I remember 220 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: this woman saying, this wife saying to me one time, 221 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 4: it's easy to believe a lie if you really want 222 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: it to be true. It was on the idea that 223 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: her husband was not being the way he should be 224 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 4: and she so didn't want it to be true. Wow, 225 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 4: the book I'm reading about Martin Luther King Jr. His 226 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 4: wife to the very end convinced that Martin did not 227 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 4: cheat on her. I did not know that, but anyway, 228 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: it's the whole. I don't want this to be true. 229 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 4: So I just can't even let that in. 230 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: Is that what the media was doing? 231 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: They just so didn't want it to be true that 232 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: Joe Biden, you know, needed to step down. It was 233 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: gonna help Trump get elected, and blah blah blah. They 234 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 4: couldn't see it. 235 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: I wonder, Yeah, you know, the marital thing's a little 236 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: different obviously because of the incredibly deep emotional bond there. 237 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: But I just if you fall for that, you are 238 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: weak minded. If you are that blinded by your own wishes. Seriously, 239 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be a journalist. For one thing. I tell 240 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: you if you and this is not to portray myself 241 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: as sort of paragun but if you want me to 242 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: explain any flaws or weaknesses in my arguments at any point, 243 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: I would do that for you, because I'm acutely aware 244 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: of them. I like to think, now, do I have 245 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: some confirmation bias? Of course, I do. 246 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 5: But yeah, Jake tap or shame on you. 247 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, be interesting to see what's in that book and 248 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: the way it's received, Like everybody's just like this is 249 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: shocked by these revelations. 250 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 5: That'll be something to watch. Also, we've got a lot 251 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 5: more of this hour. Stay here. 252 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: Strong. 253 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 6: I'm confident at this point knock on wood you know, 254 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 6: knock on my. 255 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: Wooden head. 256 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 6: Se gouts A lot of would have there that we 257 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 6: can actually find a trillion dollars in savings. We do 258 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 6: need to move quickly if we're if we're to achieve 259 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 6: a trillion dollar deficit reduction and financially twenty twenty six, 260 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 6: it requires saving four billion dollars per day every day 261 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 6: from now through the end of September. 262 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: But we can do it, and we will do it. 263 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: Elon Musk yesterday in that first cabinet meeting of the 264 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 4: Trump administration, and a lot of the cabinet members there 265 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 4: to me not looking super jazz that Elon had so 266 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: much time to speak. 267 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: But I could be reading into their facial expressions. I 268 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: don't know, but I like Elon pointing out, look, we 269 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: got to say four billion dollars a day through September, 270 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: just to keep from going under. 271 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 5: In that spirit. 272 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: And you know, Trump's foreign policy leaves me scratching my 273 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: head or troubles me. But with him sometimes he throws 274 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: things in a chaos then comes to a decent solution. 275 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: The jury is still out to me on Trump foreign relations. 276 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean really seriously, the jury is out. 277 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 5: But this stuff I could not be more enthusiastic about. 278 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: Brett Bear talked to Howard Lutnick, who's the Secretary of Commerce, 279 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: and we've got some clips later on the hour of 280 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: Lutnik describing the things they're trying to do. 281 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 5: It is awe inspiring. It's beyond great. It's like, let's 282 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 5: have a party. 283 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: Great if they can even do half of what they're 284 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: talking about in terms of raining in the bloat, the redundancy, 285 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: the stupidity of the federal government. 286 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 5: Great stuff. Can't wait to play it. 287 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: It's breaking news. 288 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: They're gonna shoot Katy Perry into space, good which John 289 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: Mayer is probably happy about. Bezos and his rocket company, 290 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 4: second richest guy in the world. He's gonna shoot Katy Perry, 291 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: Gail King, his weird looking hot fiance wife, and some 292 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 4: other chicks into space. 293 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 8: That's the man. 294 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: In a historic all women mission, They said, up, So 295 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: there you go? 296 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 5: Is it historic? Will any historians be on hand? And 297 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 5: what will they write? 298 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: The all female six person crew is set to launch 299 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 4: this spring. Gail King seventy. She's not a young person. No, indeed, 300 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: you know, good for her? Sounds like an adventure. Okay, 301 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 4: so what this go ahead? I get his wife for 302 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 4: his fiance, saying does he probably mentioned the people he's 303 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 4: going to send in a space Hello? 304 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: Hello, I know some other women that would like to 305 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: go into space. So she's going into space? But why 306 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: Katie Perry probably his wife's favorite to pop starw don't 307 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: you're right? Something like that? I tell you what, if 308 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm being shot into space with a rich guy's girlfriend 309 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: slash wife, I'm checking into the health of the relationship 310 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: before I sign on. If you hear me talking, hello 311 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos News, I am one tenth is interested in 312 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: this as I am about his piece in Twitter and 313 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: his announcement that the policy the Washington Post is going 314 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: to be from here on out, free markets and free people, 315 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: to paraphrase the Wall Street Journal's slogan advocating for America 316 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: and freedom. 317 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 5: Absolutely love that way to go. 318 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: Jeff yeah, and specifically saying that any articles that are 319 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: counter to that will have to be published elsewhere. I 320 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: mean just like the editorials. Yeah, yeah, any opinion pieces 321 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: in that you want to write about that, I ain't 322 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: gonna be in this newspaper. I like to take your 323 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: commy clap trap elsewhere. 324 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 5: Thank you. 325 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: Really interesting new poll out about a lot that's going 326 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: on in the country. Those results coming up armstrong and getty. 327 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: So you didn't feel like Marco and RFK Jr. And 328 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 4: heg Zeth or any of the other cabinet members looked 329 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 4: a little uncomfortable with Elon. 330 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't. 331 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't deny that. No, No, they just look serious 332 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: to me. I didn't think much about it, but I 333 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: don't disagree with you that they're a little like he 334 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: when's he going to shut up? I'm the secretary of 335 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: something or other and I haven't said a damn word. 336 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: I want to get back to that discussion and doge 337 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: in a recent poll. I'm giving myself ninety seconds by 338 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: the clock to do something else first, because I know 339 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: me I'll start ranting. But I wanted to squeeze this in. 340 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: We're talking about Senile Joe Biden earlier and I begun 341 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: the timer and I've talked about doctor Ethan Ham, thirty 342 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: four year old whistleblower who reported that the Texas Children 343 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: Hospital was continuing to perform gender transition surgeries on children 344 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: even after Texas outlawed the process. 345 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 5: And he's a hero and the rest of it. 346 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: What I didn't know until today was because Trump rescinded it, 347 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: the Biden administration issued an executive something or other edict 348 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: that protected hospitals from state investigations into gender transition procedures. Wow, 349 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: it was a complete inversion of the role of the AHHS, 350 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: the rule of the legal framework, says Ethan Ham, it 351 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: outlaw well what it does. What it did was it 352 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: gave hospitals the right not to comply with state level 353 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: investigations related to the provision of transgender medical treatment to minors. 354 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: That is a if there's been a more perverse use 355 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: of the power of the federal government, I have no 356 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: idea what it was. Wow, that's just insane. That should 357 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: be known by more people, and I only have nine 358 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: seconds to tell you. It also clear that the Biden 359 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: FCC absolutely approved George Soros buying two hundred radio stations 360 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: in a way that there's never been an approval before. 361 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: They skipped all of the regulatory steps and just said no, no, no, 362 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: you can do it. Most people are outrageous. Good lord, No, 363 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: nobody's ever going to hear these stories. All right, that's 364 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: ninety seconds My alarm went off. Moving along back to 365 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: Elon Musk. Here's Elon in the cabinet meeting as Marco 366 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: Rubio was starting to look slightly miffed. 367 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 8: According to Jack, the overall goal here with the dog 368 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 8: team is to help address the almost topic that we 369 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 8: still we cannot sustain at the country. Two trillion dollar 370 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 8: death seats, the interest rates, that just the interest on 371 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 8: the national debt. 372 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 6: Now it sees that a fast department sped. We spent 373 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 6: a lot on the new pest department, but we're spending 374 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 6: like over trillion dollars on interest. If this continues, the 375 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 6: country will become de facto bankrupt. It's not an optional thing. 376 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 6: It is a central thing. That's that's the reason I'm 377 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 6: here and taking a lot of plaque and getting a 378 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 6: lot of death threats. By the way, I would like 379 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 6: to stuck them up there. But if we don't do this, 380 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 6: America will go bankrupt. That's why it has to be done. 381 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: So he's absolutely right, and that's great stuff. I had 382 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: said yesterday on the show that that Doge and Elon 383 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: have less than majority support, they are underwater poll number wise, 384 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: and one of our beloved listeners, and I apologize I 385 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: didn't keep handy who sent this along, but it's great. 386 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 5: Oh it's Ben. 387 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: He said, I'm not sure where you're getting those numbers 388 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: because the Harris the Harvard Harris pole just came out 389 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: and it seems different, and Ben, thank you for the information. 390 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: It just illustrates so beautifully what we said for a 391 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: long time. It is so easy to manipulate issues polling 392 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: with wording, because the one I saw was and I 393 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: wish I had in front of you, but it said essentially, 394 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: do you think Elon Musk and the Doge team is 395 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: working too fast and doing too much or exceeding their authority? 396 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: That sort of thing? And yeah, pretty good percentage of Americans. 397 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 5: Agreed with that. 398 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: But this is the Harvard Harris pole and they say 399 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: two in three voters say the federal government's debt is unsustainable. 400 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: You third that don't say that, You gotta wow, show 401 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: me your math. As they used to say in math class, show. 402 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 5: Me your work. 403 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: Wow. Anyway, but over four and five say they should 404 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: work to balance the budget. 405 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 5: So if you were to question people in a way that. 406 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: Emphasized a little bit more style and personality, you could 407 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: easily portray and it was portrayed this way that DOGE 408 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: is highly unpopular in their work. People not supporting the 409 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: unelected billionaire Elon Musk. 410 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 5: But if you look at the. 411 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: Underlying you know, the principles that we're talking about, there's 412 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: overwhelming support for it. 413 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 4: If four out of five people think we should balance 414 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 4: a budget, how do we keep electing two parties that 415 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 4: have no interest in doing that? 416 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: Because when it comes down to crunch time, you go 417 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: with who is going to promise you more as the 418 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: common voter. 419 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 5: I think. 420 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: It's that is a really interesting contrast. 421 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 6: The U. 422 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: And I'm reminded once again of one of my all 423 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: time favorites Thomas Sowell. 424 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 5: Quotes, and I've got like fifty of them, maybe. 425 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty, is that we're partly to blame 426 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: for the fact that politicians are such liars, because if we, 427 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: over and over again demand the impossible from them, only 428 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: liars can get elected right, and we want a dollar 429 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: thirty in government services for a dollar perpetually and never 430 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: any tax increases. 431 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that first poll of two thirds of people think 432 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: we're going to go broke, like you said the other third. 433 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 5: God, I'd love to sit down with those people. 434 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: I just like to, you know, explain to me how 435 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: you see things. It might be some of those lunatics 436 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: who believe that the monetarists or whatever the liberal economist 437 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: group thinks that that will just keep printing money or 438 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: thought about it that much. Yeah, I was gonna say, 439 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: And a few of them are probably the No we 440 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: can grow away out of this crowd. Trump's been talking 441 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: about that even as they cut like crazy, which is good, 442 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: but I think it's mostly morons. Some more, some more 443 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: of the poll. After a quick word from our friends 444 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: that Prize Picks. Prize Picks is the best place to 445 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: get real money sports action. 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Do you 474 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: think that we are in need of a full examination 475 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: of all government expenditures? Or should we not get in 476 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: the way of current contracts and expenditures? And it's seventy 477 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: seven twenty three that no, we got to turn over 478 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: every rock and look at it, which is heartening, but 479 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: in a raw political taking a look at it through 480 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: the political lens. The idea that Chuck Schumer and Jakeem 481 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: Jeffreys and the others are on the hill, on the 482 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: steps of Capitol Hill saying, how dare they disrupt look 483 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: at all these government programs that everyone loves, these pure bureaucrats. 484 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: There's very very little constituency for that. In fact, it's 485 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: it's mockable as a pitch to voters given the numbers. 486 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: But four for the millionth time, we got to when 487 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: there ought to be like confetti fall out of this 488 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 1: guy when we say this for the millionth time, for 489 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: the almost one millionth time, the media reports it as 490 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: if that's what most Americans believe, even though it's a 491 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: tiny subset seven to ten voters think government expenditures are 492 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: filled with waste. That's the actual phrase from the Harvard 493 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: Hairs poll. Do you think that the government expenditures are 494 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: basically fair and reasonable or do you think they are 495 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: filled with waste, fraud, and inefficiency? 496 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 5: Seventy to thirty. 497 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: Wow, that's fantastic. It is happy to hear that. This 498 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: is why folks like us who are not the mainstream 499 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: media I think are growing and growing and growing in 500 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: the mainstream media are withering and withering because they're so 501 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: effing dishonest. 502 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 5: Pardon me? 503 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: Do you support or oppose the goal of cutting one 504 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: trillion dollars of government expenditures? 505 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 5: Nine to thirty one? That's in quarters. Okay, how about this? 506 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: Do you think there should be a US government agency 507 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: focused on efficiency initiatives or not? 508 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 5: Seventy two twenty eight Yes. 509 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: Do you think the so called Department of Government Efficiency DOGE, 510 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: led by Elon Musk? 511 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 5: They go ahead and mention his name. 512 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: Is helping make major cuts and government expenditures or not 513 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: helping wins sixty to forty. There you see a little 514 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: Elon fatigue or you know that sort of thing creeping 515 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: in And indeed, when you ask do you think DOGE 516 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: employees should have access to all information on government expenditures, 517 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: including sensitive information on Americans, including name, social Security numbers. 518 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 5: Is then you get a no answer. 519 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: But in general, if they can avoid you know, the 520 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: most obvious of excesses and screw. 521 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 5: Ups, they have huge popular support. 522 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: Somebody ought to tell the New York Times that and 523 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: Jake Tapper in the Washington Post huge support A law 524 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: A law. Well, that's the best news I've heard today, 525 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: that polling. I like to wait still several hours into 526 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: the show to give anybody any good news. I like 527 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: to just batter them and discourage them as much as possible. 528 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: Some of the bad news woke up to, of course, 529 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: is that Gene Hackman. 530 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 4: Is dead, the great actor. Not that he was doing 531 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: a lot of movies lately. He retired quite a few 532 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 4: years ago. My favorite actor of all time, Gene Hackman. 533 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 4: I used to go to any movie he would be in. 534 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 4: I would go see because I liked it so much. 535 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: Anyway, he and his wife and dog all died overnight, 536 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: and they haven't announced yet. 537 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 5: Why gotta be carbon monoxide or. 538 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 4: Something like that, gas leak or something. Is ninety five, 539 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 4: but she is only sixily sixty five so you know, 540 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 4: why did they both die? 541 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: Well? 542 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 5: And the dog? 543 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: Come on, the dog didn't dis end his own life, 544 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: so asked, yes, Katie, do we have an update? 545 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, they just did an update saying that one of 546 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 8: the dogs died. 547 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: There were two that lived, and they're speculating as to 548 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: why they were in separate bedroom. Those dogs did it? 549 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: The two dogs did it? 550 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 5: The dog he got locked to them first? 551 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: Where were you. 552 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 5: That dog? 553 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: Everyone knows that. Yeah, I get your I don't know 554 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: carbon monoxide detector batteries checked or something. You got to 555 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: ask the dog just point blank, did you do it? 556 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: If it's fur gets up on its back, it's guilty. 557 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: If it wags its tail, it's innocent, simple as that. 558 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 5: Too soon. 559 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 4: The fact that they immediately announced no foul play, Yeah, yeah, 560 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 4: I think it was some sort of terrible accident. 561 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: How did they even find out? Did somebody do a 562 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: wellness check? Like I hadn't heard from him in a 563 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: couple of days or what? No idea must have been 564 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: something like that, right. Maybe the dogs who survived called again? 565 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: Too soon? Too soon? 566 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 5: Wow, I apologize. 567 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: Wow. 568 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 4: We're gonna play one of Gene Hackman's greatest movie. 569 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: Roles for you an hour four. We'll have a clip 570 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: of that, among other things we got coming up systems. Yeah, 571 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: my new favorite to figure in government, Howard Lutnik speaking 572 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: of cutting the budget and fiscal health. Oh my gosh, 573 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: great stuff. You're gonna love him. I don't like his name. 574 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: What I don't like the name Lutnik? Yep, please, No, 575 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: that's the way it sounds. We got that coming up stair. 576 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: We used the word Trantifa on the air before. Have 577 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: I come across? Yes? 578 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I have Yeah. 579 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 4: Anyway, our four we'll talk about this latest Trantifa activist 580 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: that just got arrested in Colorado wanting to blow up 581 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 4: a Tesla property. 582 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: Got some great audio to get to, so I'll keep 583 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: this short, but I was just saying a jack off 584 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: the air. I am so glad we have people who 585 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: know what they're dealing doing, dealing with taxes and the 586 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: money stuff and everything. As we're getting toward tax time 587 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: and we have a couple of different relationships and it's 588 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: a little complicated, but it returns me to the thought 589 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: that we've had so many times that it's insane that 590 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: a person, just a regular person with a regular tax return, 591 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: has to pay somebody to help them figure out how 592 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: much the government owes them. 593 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 5: It's absolutely idiotic. 594 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: It needs to be reformed, it needs it desperately, and 595 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: maybe now is the time that happens. 596 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 5: So Special Report with Brett Bear. 597 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: Last night Brett was talking to Howard Lutnick, who's the 598 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: secretary of Commerce at at his office, Commerce Building. And Lutnick, 599 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: who is so excited about his job. He's really a 600 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: fascinating guy. He ran a big firm on Wall Street, 601 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: lost hundreds of employees on nine to eleven, including his brother. 602 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: He was only spared because he was taking his little 603 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: boy to his first day of school. 604 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I think it was his partner. 605 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: As brothers little boys first day of school had been 606 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: the previous day, so Howard lived. 607 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 5: They all died. 608 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: But anyway, but he is so crazy enthusiastic about what 609 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: he's doing right now. I have two clips I want 610 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: to play for you from the from the interview. This 611 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: is forty eight first handsome. 612 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 7: US postal service coming under commerce. I mean, where did 613 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 7: that come from? And what is that about? And how 614 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 7: will Americans deal with it? Will it affect their mail? 615 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 9: No, it won't affect their mail. So the concept was, 616 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 9: I'm sitting with the president and the costs of the 617 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 9: post office are like it loses seven billion dollars and 618 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 9: he said, can you do something with it? And I 619 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 9: said sure. So I saw him the next day. He goes, Okay, 620 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 9: what do he got? You know, he gives me a 621 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 9: whole twenty four hours to figure it out. And I said, well, 622 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 9: the Commerce Department does the census, and we spend forty 623 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 9: billion dollars every ten years doing the census, and that 624 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 9: means we hire six hundred and twenty five thousand people. 625 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 9: And they go and they rent cars and gas and 626 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 9: you paying food. 627 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 3: And you know what they do. They go to every 628 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: household in America and count the people. 629 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 9: What department we already have that are already employed. 630 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 3: Six hundred and twenty five thousand people, it's got cars, 631 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: already has gas, goes to every household. 632 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 9: Can you imagine saying your postman, can you count the 633 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 9: people in the house? 634 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 5: What day? 635 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 9: Could he do the census? 636 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 5: Monday? 637 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 9: Could he double check it on Tuesday? How about Wednesday? 638 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 5: Goes every day? 639 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 3: So we can only save forty billion dollars or four 640 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: billion a year, and we'll do a better job. And 641 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: you know what else we can do with the post office. 642 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 3: They can go to your house when you have a 643 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: baby and give you the form for Social Security. And 644 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 3: the twenty thousand Social Security offices that we have, we. 645 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 9: Just don't need them. We actually can do real customer service. 646 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 5: Go right to your house. 647 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: Someone died. 648 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 9: Here's the forums, you can fill it out. I'll bring 649 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 9: them to your house. Customer service. 650 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 3: Why because we've got those people. Let's use the assets 651 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 3: of the government to make us better and save us money. 652 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: We can be smart. 653 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 5: You know, we're loud howl liking great. 654 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: Is that that's fantastic even if the specifics don't work 655 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: out for some reason. The spirit of it, right, which 656 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: is the spirit of private enterprise, come to government. Wait 657 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: a minute, Wait a minute, Well, why are we doing 658 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: two different things here? They're essentially the same Businesses' combine 659 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: them and save you know, seventy percent of the budget. 660 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: That's right. 661 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: And if you're only look at things as the way 662 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 4: people in government look at things, you could have two 663 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 4: things grow up separately that overlap, but you don't think 664 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 4: about it or care because you don't think about money. 665 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 4: You don't care about money. There's endless tax payer money. 666 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: You don't care if it's sufficient or not, as opposed 667 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 4: to a businessman and says, wait, we got two things, we. 668 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: Could have one thing right. It's way more insidious than 669 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: not caring. You would never bring it to anybody's attention, 670 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: because then you wouldn't have the turf and the budget 671 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: and the people under you as the census guy. You 672 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: would never say, hey, you know what, mister president, the 673 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: Post Office could do this. It just came to me 674 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: in a dream last night. We should get rid of 675 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: my giant fiefdom in DC and my big house in 676 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: Fairfax and the rest of it. I'm not necessary. Yeah, 677 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: wait for that to happen. That's so positive and good. 678 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: I hesitate to do this. Do we have time for 679 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: a minute long clip? No, Okay, we'll do it next hour. 680 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: Lutni goes on to talk about Brett asks him. 681 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 5: What are you worried about? 682 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: And lot next description of why he's worried about China 683 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: is great, cool. 684 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 4: I'm worried about our college system and the numb nut 685 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 4: students at Columbia took over a building yesterday fighting for 686 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 4: the rights of Homas and we've got some chanting and 687 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 4: stuff from them, and how that played out. 688 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. I'm telling you. The snow flaky, idiotic goodness 689 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: of their chanting is amazing. It's some of my favorite 690 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: stupid chanting of all time. Please join us for Next Hour. 691 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: If you don't get Next Hour, you got to go 692 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: somewhere whatever. Grab it via podcast later Armstrong and Getting 693 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: on demand. You should probably be safe and subscribe or 694 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: fallow and enjoyed today's show because it's a decent chance. 695 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: I've got a bola. I haven't been able to nail 696 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: down what illness it does I have, but I'm just 697 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: assuming it's obola. Yeah, you're bleeding from the eyes and ears. 698 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: I didn't want to bring it up. I felt indelicate, 699 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: but it's probably a bola. You actually sound and look 700 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: better today, are you? Or is it just better drugs. 701 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm not on any drugs, but I don't feel better. 702 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad I sound better. That's fantastic. 703 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 4: That's absolutely Maybe I'll pull both feet out of the 704 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 4: grave and just have one foot in the grave. 705 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: Our four will be big. 706 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 4: If you don't get to get the podcast Armstrong and 707 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 4: Getty on demand 708 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty