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Speaker 1: Happy fourth of July. It's LaVar Arrington Jonas Knox in

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Speaker 1: up until noon Eastern time nine am Pacific here on

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Speaker 1: this fourth of July. So I hope everybody is safe

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Speaker 1: out there. People aren't even waiting till fourth of July

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Speaker 1: these days to light off fireworks. I mean they were

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Speaker 1: all over the place in our neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh yeah, I was sleep brouh.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming they were fireworks, but our neighbors maybe not.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it was a house maybe.

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Speaker 1: Just like every year. Really, are people not going to

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Speaker 1: get it? You're not a pyro expert, okay. And when

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Speaker 1: you light a fuse and it starts to creep up

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Speaker 1: towards the firework that's about to explode, it's a roll

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Speaker 1: the dice and you just got to hope that it

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Speaker 1: doesn't tilt over or wind doesn't knock it over and

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Speaker 1: then it's pointed right at you. But it just feels

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Speaker 1: like a less an ideal proposition to h to want

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Speaker 3: So I'm a chest thumper on things, but I have

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Speaker 3: never ever touched the firework, ever lit one and set

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Speaker 3: one off, never done it, not my.

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Speaker 2: Entire life, not proud of it. But yeah I have.

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Speaker 3: I've never smoked a cigarette and i've never and I

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Speaker 3: have I have never set off a firework.

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Speaker 1: No cigarette for me. But they used to do these

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Speaker 1: like you light them and they would spin around on

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Speaker 1: the ground, like these little firework spinners. Remember we had

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Speaker 1: a dog that used to go and try and eat them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, while they were on.

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Speaker 3: I used a little you know, the little dips that

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Speaker 3: that you they were wrapped in the little white paper

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Speaker 3: and you throwing me. Oh yeah, yes, and I've done that.

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Speaker 2: It's about it.

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Speaker 1: Those are fun to throw at people, right, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: like the dog would see a fireworks spitting on the

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Speaker 1: ground and go try and eat it, and then everyone's like, god,

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Speaker 1: dogs are so smart. Yeah, that's smart. Dogs of moron,

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Speaker 1: No wonder he didn't make it past eight.

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Speaker 3: Technically, the dog is trying to save you, as you know,

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Speaker 3: the people he loves, so he's trying to get it

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Speaker 3: and get it out of the way. It's you that

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Speaker 3: the dog is sitting there like these dumb mother efforts.

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Speaker 3: I gotta go get this joint before it blows up everybody,

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Speaker 3: So let me be the one that takes it for

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Speaker 3: the team. To me, that's that's kind of the line

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Speaker 1: I can't sure when I throw my dog a rib

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Speaker 1: bone it's not lit on fire and spinning around in

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Speaker 1: the circle. Dog's a moron. He done its not going

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Speaker 1: to eat it? Did he eat it? He tried to?

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Speaker 3: No, you bite it, walk it off away from the people,

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Speaker 3: let it down, and then be done with it with

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Speaker 3: a burnt mouth.

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Speaker 1: Cute.

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Speaker 3: Shoot you because you were not a considerate dog owner

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Speaker 3: and your dog knew that he was doing his duty

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Speaker 3: or her duty, and you set her.

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Speaker 1: You set it up. You set the dog up. That

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Speaker 1: dog's an idiot. So and I hope I help everybody.

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Speaker 1: Silly ass, I don't put that out. I'm gonna put

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Speaker 1: that out. Don't put that out, all right? So, uh,

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Speaker 1: better get make up. Oh so here we go again,

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Speaker 1: So this show, here we here we go. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to go back you hear me, I'm never going back.

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Speaker 1: Your guy, LaVar Demorris Smith, the former NFL PA executive director.

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Speaker 1: He's got a book coming out called Turf Wars. A

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Speaker 1: right bat So the first h that was LeVar, that

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Speaker 1: was John Grutin. I'm only quoting what John Rutin sila

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Speaker 1: only quote. But dmores Smith has a new book out

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Speaker 1: called Turf Wars, and of course he does. Well, there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of interesting little tidbits from this book that

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Speaker 1: have already been released because this book is set to

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Speaker 1: come out in August.

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Speaker 2: I believe.

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Speaker 3: I mean you got to release the interesting tidbits to

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Speaker 3: sell the book, right okay?

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Speaker 1: And who would you who would you say you sell

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Speaker 1: a book? It would be the first name you'd want

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Speaker 1: want to sell a book, would be Roger Goodale. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking of a player, if he was a player in

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Speaker 1: the NFL that you knew would get some headlines.

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Speaker 3: If it was a player, I'm either I'm going with

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Speaker 3: a quarterback and and I mean the most I could

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Speaker 3: say the easy decision would be Tom Brady because that

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Speaker 3: was during Tom Brady's time. You could throw Peyton Manning

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Speaker 3: out there. But the media lightning rod has been Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: That is correct. That is correct. Aaron Rodgers featured first

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Speaker 1: in one of these little uh from demor Smith's book quote,

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Speaker 1: the God of cheesehead Nation was isolated and dismissive. Smith writes,

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Speaker 1: regarding Roger's demeanor during a player meeting, he sat in

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Speaker 1: the back robe the meeting room, issuing loud size before

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Speaker 1: standing for a dramatic exit. An incredible quarterback, to be sure,

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Speaker 1: but an even more impressive antagonist. Smith also says this

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Speaker 1: about Rogers quote. In August twenty twenty one, my phone

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Speaker 1: shirped with a text from Aaron Rodgers. Can you call

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Speaker 1: me at red? Could I not run into traffic instead?

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Speaker 1: That from Demorris Smith talking about Aaron Rodgers. And I

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Speaker 1: see that, So he doesn't have any love for Aaron Rodgers. Well,

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Speaker 1: I see that, and I go, so this is the

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Speaker 1: NFLPA executive director and one of your star players. And

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Speaker 1: then you've got JC Tretter, who reportedly threw Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: under the bus in discussing Russell Wilson's contract negotiations, as

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Speaker 1: that came out as part of the collusion evidence and

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Speaker 1: testimony that was discovered a couple weeks ago. And they

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Speaker 1: wonder why they lose every negotiation to the owners because

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Speaker 1: the NFLPA can't even get it together amongst themselves. You

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Speaker 1: got the executive director getting a call from one of

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Speaker 1: the stars of the league saying, can I walk into

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Speaker 1: traffic instead?

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Speaker 2: That's crazy?

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Speaker 3: And as you're leading the players, yes, yes, it's crazy man. J. C.

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Speaker 1: Tretder part of the NFLPA and calls Russell Wilson the

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Speaker 1: rhymes with woosey. Reportedly, when the discussions of the negotiations

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Speaker 1: from Denver, cam like, this is why you lose every

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Speaker 1: time to the owners because they're not on the same page.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's on the same page.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of moving parts when you have you know,

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Speaker 3: associations and unions and stuff like that. I mean, no

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Speaker 3: one is going to get what they want. I find

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Speaker 3: it more interesting that he chose to singularly pinpoint one

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Speaker 3: as a leaked line or a promoted line to go

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Speaker 3: read his book. That doesn't make me want to read

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Speaker 3: his book anymore. That doesn't make Samorris Smith a more

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Speaker 3: interesting figure to want to learn or read about. I

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Speaker 3: don't I mean again, you're you're you're saying what the

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Speaker 3: conclusion already is. So you're basically putting a book out

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Speaker 3: there that talks about how you failed the players.

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Speaker 2: Is that what it's about? Maybe that should be the title.

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Speaker 3: If you put out a title, I failed the players

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Speaker 3: when I led the NFLPA. If you want to put

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Speaker 3: that narrative out there, people will probably read it because

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Speaker 3: they're gonna want to know why.

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Speaker 1: I can remember Mark Schlare. This was back in I

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Speaker 1: think it was twenty seventeen. Demorris Smith was sort of

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Speaker 1: like making the rounds, telling everybody that there was going

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Speaker 1: to be some changes, things are going to be different

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Speaker 1: in the new CBA and blah blah blah blah blah,

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Speaker 1: and I remember Mark Schlare just basically saying something along

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Speaker 1: the lines of, yeah, okay, what are you going to

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Speaker 1: get for the players, less padded practices, like what do

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Speaker 1: you what are you going to get for the players?

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Speaker 1: Because they've been hearing this song and dance for years.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why Rogers was pissed is because he

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Speaker 1: was one of the guys that was standing up and

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Speaker 1: pounding the table saying, dude, this deal doesn't work for us.

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Speaker 1: We're getting the shaft in this deal. And you've got

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Speaker 1: the guy who's supposed to be the executive director of

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Speaker 1: the NFLPA, who was making the rounds years in advance,

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Speaker 1: telling everybody how they were going to do the right

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Speaker 1: thing for the players, and a guy's calling you about

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Speaker 1: things and wanting to have conversations, and you're eye rolling him,

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Speaker 1: like what like this are you supposed to be on

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Speaker 1: the same side? And that that was part he and

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Speaker 1: then he talked about the collusion as well too. This

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Speaker 1: from Demor Smith's book turf Wars, which which Savar would

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Speaker 1: like to have edited, I Failed the Players. There you go,

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Speaker 1: turf Wars, the story about the story of how I

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Speaker 1: failed the player.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's so generic.

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Speaker 1: Turf Wars story about I failed you play talk about

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Speaker 1: driving an unnecessary narrative home.

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Speaker 2: The hell.

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Speaker 1: You do know you are a black man, right. You

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Speaker 1: can't just be throwing stuff loosely out there like that.

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Speaker 1: You got to be a little bit more strategic. Don't

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Speaker 1: you recommend people love misdiagnosing things that that are put

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Speaker 1: out there. No, he's not a gang banger that I

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Speaker 1: know of. He's not talking about Southeast. So he's doing

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Speaker 1: a signing in Compton. Yeah one Tuesday. He ain't throwing

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Speaker 1: up the Rolling Sixties side. I don't have the Turf Wars.

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Speaker 1: If you're talking about problem, we got problem, but you

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Speaker 1: got problem. I'm from Chris Shaw, mafia brother, the Turf Wars.

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Speaker 1: I see you in no battles, Budgie.

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Speaker 3: All I've said is like, bro, make it make sense

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Speaker 3: if you want people to read your book, make it

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Speaker 3: make sense that I've had one. I had one exchange

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Speaker 3: with with Demores. I thought he was He was a

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Speaker 3: fine dude to talk to, you know, good hearted guy,

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Speaker 3: super smart, super intelligent dude. But I thought he was

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Speaker 3: in over his head.

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Speaker 1: The official title here Turf Wars The Fight for the

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Speaker 1: Soul of America's Game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's a little dramatic, man, Yeah that's a tabbit dramatic.

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Speaker 3: It's a tabit dramatic.

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Speaker 1: Now on the collusion case, this quote came out from

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Speaker 1: Demorris Smith in his book. There were people inside our building, again,

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Speaker 1: the former nfl PA executive director, there were people inside

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Speaker 1: our building who thought it was a waste of time.

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Speaker 1: But internally our office had evidence of collusion, including hearing

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Speaker 1: from multiple sources that the league and teams were discussing

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Speaker 1: their avoidance of fully guaranteed tracks. Sweet, It's nice to

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Speaker 1: know that people inside the NFLPA building thought it was

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Speaker 1: a waste of time. It's just am I crazy? This

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Speaker 1: just makes it look even worse now, just you know,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this because I think that this is

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Speaker 3: a widely spread corporate type of it could be prevalent

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Speaker 3: amongst amongst businesses. You build a company, the company has employees.

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Speaker 3: Employee culture is employee culture. Company culture is company culture.

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Speaker 3: When you get those employees and they make the amount

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Speaker 3: of money that they make. Generally speaking, very few people

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Speaker 3: make a tremendously amount of a lot of money and

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Speaker 3: what it is that they do, and some do make

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Speaker 3: really good livings. Regardless if you're one that doesn't make

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Speaker 1: I don't see that happen very often. You don't see like,

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Speaker 3: He understands labor laws really well and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: This is exactly what somebody needed. It's exactly what we

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's salary and you know what he's making at Fox.

436
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Speaker 1: That's got to be part of the intrigue if you could.

437
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Speaker 1: First of all, he doesn't need to do anything post career,

438
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: or he's gonna be fine, but if he were to

439
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: throw his name in the hat, he would be one

440
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Speaker 1: of the most in demand players on the market to

441
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Speaker 1: be a broadcaster. There is just with his name, with

442
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Speaker 1: the popularity. Whatever you thought of him as a player,

443
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: the Taylor Swift Association has increased his popularity and his notoriety.

444
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Speaker 1: If you are a network, if you are somebody looking

445
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Speaker 1: to hire a broadcaster calling games, Travis Kelsey's one of

446
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Speaker 1: the first calls you would make.

447
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of personality. They do a great

448
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Speaker 2: job of.

449
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: Being able to connect to to the audience that's that's

450
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 3: watching them. They understand they're demographic and they're I mean,

451
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Speaker 3: always use the acronym.

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Speaker 1: You know. I'm writing a book. By the way, it's

453
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Speaker 1: gonna be called Knowing the Deal. I thought it was

454
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Speaker 1: turf Wars.

455
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

456
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Speaker 3: Anyways, Knowing the Deal is something that the Kelsey brothers

457
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: execute so masterfully. Now you look at what is what

458
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 3: Jason's doing right now. I mean he's crushing it with

459
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Speaker 3: how he's doing things post career and outside of like

460
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: a little mishap of knocking a phone out of somebody's hand,

461
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: I mean he's really done everything perfectly and to the

462
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Speaker 3: point of him knocking the phone out of somebody's hand.

463
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Speaker 3: There's such relatable dudes that you feel like you can

464
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Speaker 3: say or do anything when you're around them. And sometimes

465
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 3: you might do a little too much and you might

466
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Speaker 3: have said too much and it might end up being

467
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Speaker 3: a disrespectful exchange, and you know, he's still a badass dude.

468
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Speaker 2: Right.

469
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Speaker 3: But when you look at these guys, man, the Kelsey's

470
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Speaker 3: have the type of personality that drives entertainment. So that's

471
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Speaker 3: why I brought up the book preface the book, no

472
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Speaker 3: your demographic, that's your d in the acronym entertain your demographic,

473
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 3: give you your demographic entertainment and give them an experience, right,

474
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 3: and have love for what you do. That's knowing the deal.

475
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Speaker 3: If you have those four elements involved with what you're doing,

476
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Speaker 3: and you understand those elements, and you bring those elements

477
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Speaker 3: to the table and you let that shine through who

478
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Speaker 3: you are. Along with the established influence and amount of

479
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: numbers of people that are really really fans of you know,

480
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey, it would be a no brainer if he

481
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Speaker 3: wants to put the time and the energy and the

482
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Speaker 3: work into learning it and being able to talk about it.

483
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Speaker 3: It would be a no brainer, just for those simple

484
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Speaker 3: facts that he has a great following, he's got a

485
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Speaker 3: great reputation, He's shown that he can do a podcast.

486
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Speaker 3: They run a successful podcast. He shows that he interviews well,

487
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: he speaks well, and he brings an element of entertainment,

488
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 3: and he creates an experiment experience for the people who

489
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: who follow him every single time he does he plays

490
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Speaker 3: in a game, or even when he cracks the microphone.

491
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 3: So if he wants to that's what he wants to do.

492
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: Is certainly something that he would probably if he was

493
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Speaker 3: putting the if he puts the time in the work

494
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Speaker 3: and the effort into to really learning how to be

495
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: great at he could probably be really great at it.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's like he didn't even need it if

497
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Speaker 1: you think about it. And one of the things to me,

498
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: which I mean Tom Brady doesn't need it.

499
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Speaker 2: Guys didn't didn't need it.

500
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Speaker 1: But I mean in the sense that they've gotten a

501
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Speaker 1: head start on their broadcasting.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know when you started down the path of

504
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: broadcasting when you were a player, but the guys that

505
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: are doing it while still playing have such an advance

506
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: because you're in the world already, so you're you're off

507
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: and running in the second you decided to call it

508
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Speaker 1: a career.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm fortunate that that Doc Walker, who is is

510
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Speaker 3: obviously a Redskins now known as the Commanders. He is

511
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: one of the greatest sports personalities for the Washington football team,

512
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: and I got to know him very quickly. You know,

513
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: I bought my first home through his wife as a realtor.

514
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: Just built an amazing relationship with him. You saw my

515
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: relationship in my rapport with Brian Mitchell. Those guys. Brian

516
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: was at the end of his career, but he was

517
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: still doing media. I got with Doc Walker. I started

518
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: doing appearances on the Coach Thompson and Doc Walker Show.

519
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: Imagine that Mike. My baptism into doing sports media and

520
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: being on a live show weekly was with Coach John

521
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Speaker 3: Thompson and with Doc Walker. So talk about two great personalities.

522
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Speaker 3: One a very very strong personality and Coach Thompson, God

523
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: rest his soul and and Doc has always been a

524
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: guy that just shoots it straight and has a great

525
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Speaker 3: way of communicating. And that was my intro into intro

526
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: to and entry into doing media. I thought it was

527
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: so cool because before then, and a lot of things

528
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: have changed now in media, But before then, Jonas I

529
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: was more or less the guy that looked at it

530
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Speaker 3: as your paint brush is really a limited paintbrush. Because

531
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Speaker 3: of the distribution of your ideas, your thoughts, your feelings,

532
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Speaker 3: whatever it may be, it was very limited the writers

533
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Speaker 3: and the reporters. That's why you see so many former

534
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: reporters that have done so well in media, whether it

535
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: be television and radio. They transition from just being writers

536
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: because they were the ones that controlled the storylines. They

537
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: controlled the narrative. So you're taking a guy that writes

538
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: articles and different things like that, and you're putting them

539
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: in front of a camera, you know, you're putting them

540
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: in front of a microphone to talk on radio. Well,

541
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Speaker 3: once athletes, I feel like once athletes started really understanding

542
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 3: the power of media and the power of being able

543
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: to communicate to their audience outside and just playing because

544
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Speaker 3: for what it's worth, you know, the ere I grew

545
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: up in, you know, players were obscure. It was like

546
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: crazy to see a player out or to even ever

547
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: have an interaction with a player like that just wasn't

548
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Speaker 3: what the times called for. I mean, players are so

549
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: accessible now, you know, there's so much interaction between players

550
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: that that kind of that cartilage between fans and players,

551
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: or the idea of trusting what the media says versus

552
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Speaker 3: trusting what the players, that's gone. You know, you have

553
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: a direct entry point, you have a direct connection with

554
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: the fan bases anymore, and so that's totally changed the

555
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: way you know, things are done. But as it applies

556
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: to traditional media of getting in front of a camera

557
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 3: calling a game, you know, or or even doing a

558
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: podcast where you're talking about the things that are going

559
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: on in sports, this is as good a time, it's

560
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: as great a time as any to be very prepared

561
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: and really understand what the opportunities are that exists there

562
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 3: where you're able to express yourself in a way that

563
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: you know, I expressed myself as a player that came

564
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: off a certain type of way on the football field.

565
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: But being able to express yourself as a person using

566
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: your words and giving them ideas and giving them thoughts

567
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: and different things like that, it's an entirely different world,

568
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: but it's a really really cool place to be. So

569
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Speaker 3: to your point, understanding what that represents and being able

570
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: to kind of see if you fit in it and

571
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: you integrate in it because some people don't. Some people

572
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: really don't, and some people are able to really understand

573
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: it and grasp it, and earlier you get the opportunity

574
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: to learn it, as you mentioned, doing it while you're

575
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: still an active player, you know, doing the NFL boot

576
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: camps and doing the different you know, PR schools and

577
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: stuff like that. It definitely goes a long way in

578
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: determining if you want to go into this type of industry.

579
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Speaker 1: And especially seeing the Kelsey's, It's not like these are

580
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: the Mannings or two quarterbacks from a quarterback family. One's

581
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: a tight end, one's an offensive lineman.

582
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Speaker 3: It's it's different, two of the most under celebrated positions

583
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: in all of the football.

584
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Speaker 1: And I look at it and I go like, there

585
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: was some talk that they've got this tight end you

586
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: that they put together, and I think it's him and

587
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen and George Kittle that they put together and

588
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,479
Speaker 1: they try, you know, they have an event and it's

589
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: all the tight ends get together. And they were talking

590
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: about how they're going to you know, maybe moving around

591
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: and start taking it on the road because it's been

592
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: so successful in Nashville, and it just furthers the point.

593
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: And we've talked about this before, like all of these shows,

594
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: these documentaries about quarterbacks, and you know, they've got the

595
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: latest one on Netflix. There's a gold mine in the

596
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: NFL of personalities and characters that people probably don't even

597
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: know about because they just quarterback is the celebrity. The

598
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks the star. Whether it would be defensive linemen, whether

599
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: it would be linebackers, special teamers, offensive linemen. It just

600
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: now that you've started to open up all the different

601
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: possibilities that you laid out, whether it's podcasting, whether it's

602
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, all these different shows that are out there,

603
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: or you know, just standard broadcasting for television networks. I

604
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: think there's just there's a chance here that you could

605
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: present the stars of the game, not just for today,

606
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: but the stars of the game that are going to

607
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: carry the messaging for the league after their careers are over.

608
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: And to see a center and a tight end you

609
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: know who, you don't ever see that, to send their brothers, Yeah,

610
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: to see those guys. So it's like brothers superpower activate.

611
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

612
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Speaker 1: Everything's that the Campbell's commercial, they got Mom involved like that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they've made it a family affair and they're pretty.

614
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: They're in astute family man. I mean, they just they

615
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: get it. They just get it and it's natural. I

616
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 3: don't want to say it's natural, because that's that's taking

617
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: away from the brilliance of if they sit around and

618
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: if they actually converse about you know, these types of things.

619
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Speaker 3: I know every day I talk to my kids about

620
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: building your brands, like for the brand. Like you hear

621
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 3: Pat McAfee say for the brand, I say it every day,

622
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: Arrington is our brand. Whether your first name is different,

623
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Speaker 3: Arrington is the brand. Learn how to.

624
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Speaker 2: Speak, be respectful to others.

625
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: Always know that you get an opportunity to give somebody

626
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: an experience every time somebody meets you and acknowledges you.

627
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: You know, just just understanding just just raw, fundamental, basic

628
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: things about how to handle yourself can lead to so

629
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: many different opportunities in your life. And that is what's

630
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: more important than being able to spike a ball as

631
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Speaker 3: a you know, kill a ball as a volleyball player

632
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: for Marley, or doing flip and tucks and stuff for

633
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: Leila as a cheerleader, or me men and Qino playing

634
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: you know football, like those things. It's great to be

635
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 3: able to do things that garner the attention of what

636
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: you're able to do. A talent, but the biggest talent

637
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: that you will ever have that all of us have,

638
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: like everybody even listening to our show, we all have

639
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 3: the opportunity to be able to impact somebody's life with

640
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: the way we are as a person, and that, to

641
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 3: me is the most valuable talent that you could develop.

642
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: That's the most valuable skill that any of us can

643
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: develop is being able to understand how important it is

644
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: to be a person. You know, a person. Hey, how

645
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: you doing great? I don't know who these people are

646
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: that I see during the course of a day. I

647
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: went and I told you I was going to go

648
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Speaker 3: have me a couple drinks.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I went, had a couple of drinks yesterday. The bartender

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Speaker 3: and I had a great conversation. Guy that came and

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Speaker 3: sat next to me. We had a great little interaction,

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Speaker 3: right and it's like, hey, how you doing, man?

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Speaker 1: Everything good? Oh you look like you're busy, got your

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Speaker 1: laptop out.

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Speaker 2: You cool?

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Speaker 3: I'm great man, just trying to get it done great,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Hey, you want a bear?

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Speaker 3: Get you a beer? Talking to the to the you

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Speaker 3: know the bartender. You know, Hey, how's it going for you?

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Speaker 3: Oh wonderful?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: Da da great? Uh what a nice Long Gland iced t.

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Speaker 3: Go figure out what tore a Long Island iced t.

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Speaker 3: You know you do a great job with your Long

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Speaker 3: Island niceties. Thank you, no problem, man, appreciate you. You're

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Speaker 3: what's your name? Okay, get the name? Now I know

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Speaker 3: your name. So when I come back to that place,

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Speaker 3: the experience she gave me and the experience I reciprocated

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Speaker 3: back to her, those things become monetizable. There's a value

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Speaker 3: to it because now she knows me, we'll have a

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Speaker 3: great interaction. My service is going to be great.

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Speaker 1: I know her. We're going to have a great interaction.

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Speaker 3: I know my service is going to be great, and

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Speaker 3: she's going to get compensated for it. That's life, man,

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Speaker 3: Make it transactional, and I think the Kelseys have done

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Speaker 3: an excellent job of doing that.

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Speaker 1: It is uh the herd or excuse me not there,

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Speaker 1: My apologies. It's New Patrick show City. Yeah we did

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Speaker 1: that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So listen.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you're moving around so many times, stuff going on,

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Speaker 1: when you're the only ones that's working the station, you

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Speaker 1: pop from.

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Speaker 2: Show to show.

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Speaker 1: Apologies, clean that up, Lea, please fade it. It is

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Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington,

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Speaker 1: Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys coming up

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Speaker 1: next here though, just what we needed in the world

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Speaker 1: of sports, Just what we needed. We'll explain why right

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Speaker 1: here at FSR.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be

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Speaker 6: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app.

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Speaker 1: It's the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys

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Speaker 1: coming up top of next hour, little over ten minutes

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Speaker 1: from now. There's somebody in the NFL who really is

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Speaker 1: controlling everything, all right. They really are the root of

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Speaker 1: everything when you think about it, especially a major issue

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Speaker 1: going on currently. We'll get into that for you here

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, you're listening to

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. So we talked a

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Speaker 1: little bit yesterday when we were filling in on the

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Speaker 1: Herd about Louis Orties, the pictures for the Guardians, who

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Speaker 1: you know the Apparently some funny business going on with

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Speaker 1: old Louis Orties. He's under investigation by Major League Baseball

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Speaker 1: after a betting integrity firm flagged some unusual gambling activity

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Speaker 1: during one of his appearances. I mean, listen, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what would you think those were? Well, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you. According to sources who reviewed it, it referenced

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Speaker 1: actions on Ortiz's first pitches and select innings to be

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Speaker 1: a ball or a hit batsman in two games June

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Speaker 1: fifteenth against the Mariners and June twenty seventh against the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals in both the bottom of the second inning against

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Speaker 1: the Mariners and the top of the third against the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals or tees through a first pitch slider that was

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Speaker 1: well outside the strike zone. The alert on Otez's first

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Speaker 1: pitch is flagg Bets in Ohio, New York, and New

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Speaker 1: Jersey betting on the result of first pitches offered is

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Speaker 1: offered by some sportsbooks, with such wagers commonly referenced to

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Speaker 1: as micro bets. So basically, this is now to the

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Speaker 1: point to where pitches, not games, not innings, not home runs,

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Speaker 1: not RBI's individual pitches, people are betting on what the

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Speaker 1: result of a pitch is going to be. And there

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Speaker 1: was so much activity on each on each pitch that

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Speaker 1: it flagged this betting integrity firm to be like, somebody

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Speaker 1: needs to look at that guy. This could be a

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Speaker 1: big time overreaction. They're just better safe than sorry. Or

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Speaker 1: we're at the point now to where you got people

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Speaker 1: getting in the ear professional athletes, especially in baseball, going hey,

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Speaker 1: here's a few bucks throw a slider and missed by

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Speaker 1: a wide margin on that first pitch. That's it's great,

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Speaker 1: It's just tremendous. I think this stuff is hilarious because.

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Speaker 3: I just think there's too much of it now. There's

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Speaker 3: too many of the like, there's too many of these

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Speaker 3: stories that continue to surface. And I know you're into

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Speaker 3: the whole gambling scene and how it impacts the game

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Speaker 3: and how it makes you feel every time you bet

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Speaker 3: and lose, but just to me, at some point, why

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Speaker 3: can't it become a non story based upon this one

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Speaker 3: thought process of athletes actually noting it. I mean, go figure, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: that's just it's just way too simple, way too easy

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Speaker 3: a solution for it to be. You know what, I

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Speaker 3: know the consequences of getting caught doing this, so I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to do it. Just imagine if we lived

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Speaker 3: in a world where that existed.

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Speaker 1: But we thought they had taken care of the story problem,

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Speaker 1: peds were out of sports, guys pissed hot.

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Speaker 2: Still still today.

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Speaker 1: Still can't help themselves to get all the testing, and

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Speaker 1: there's probably something that are doing it that aren't even

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Speaker 1: testing positive.

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Speaker 3: If you get caught gambling, God, God bless Lord's will

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Speaker 3: have been done, Bro,