1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaggs Drive Time with John Oser, Osher, Brian Sexy, Sexton, 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Man Kay Steves. Jangs Drive Time starts right now. 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: Welcome man. 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 3: I'm Kanannie Stevens for this May twenty third edition of 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 3: Jagg's Drive Time, of course, joined by your favorites Brian Sexton, 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 3: John Oser. 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 4: Here. 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: We had day one of ot A's yesterday, which is 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: always a good sign. So that means we're getting a 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: little bit closer to the season. Not a ton to 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: glean from it, I guess, but it is always exciting 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 3: to get up back out there see most of the team. 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 5: Yes, we're exciting to write word because there's a lot 14 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 5: of excitement in this marketplace about this team. People want 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 5: to hear about them, read about them. You know, see 16 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 5: the video of these guys on the field, and it 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 5: was and we'll talk about this, but I wrote it 18 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 5: for the column that we did for John. It was 19 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 5: great to see so many players out there and and 20 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 5: it was really good to see some of those guys 21 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 5: look good and the. 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: Guys who weren't here are are are our guys. You'd 23 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 4: expect that. Josh Allen, who I know works on his 24 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 4: own and has a regimen that he once yet in 25 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 4: the season, and not Cam who's hurt anyway, who would 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: be on the field. So and Evan Ingram, who is 27 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 4: business expective with the tame it's fine. So you know, 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: it was good to be out there. I guess it 29 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 4: was good for the players to be out there. Yeah, 30 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 4: I don't particularly think that we glean anything from it. 31 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: The only thing I would glean from it yesterday is 32 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: you wanted to see Calvin Ridley look the part. He 33 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: looked a part. Unsurprising, but good to check that box. 34 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: All right, let's check out big things because we're gonna 35 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: touch on just that coming up. So big thing one 36 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: is attendance. We just mentioned it. Other than those three 37 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: players that John just mentioned, there was a lot of 38 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: people out there. Everybody was in attendance today. Doug Peterson 39 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: does put some emphasis on the fact it is an 40 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: optional thing to be a part of OTA's but he 41 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: was very happy to see the turnout. 42 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 6: That's why we have such a high high percentage of 43 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 6: guys that are here. 44 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 7: You know, in this in this type of voluntary, in 45 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 7: this world of voluntary offseason program, we have the amount 46 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 7: of guys that we do have here. 47 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 6: They understand the type of work that we do, and 48 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 6: you know, that goes a long way. That goes a 49 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 6: long way, not only just this time of the year, 50 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 6: but you. 51 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 7: Get into December and January as we talk, and that's 52 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 7: where the trust and and you know, sort of that 53 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 7: camaraderie come into play. 54 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 6: But we're building that foundation. You know, every year is 55 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 6: a different year, Every team's a different year. 56 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 7: Last year is done and it's in the rearview mirror 57 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 7: and we're still trying to establish, you know, another. 58 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 6: Team this year and putting all those pieces together. 59 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 7: But that trust factor, I think in having that in 60 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 7: me and me and them goes a long way to 61 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 7: the reason why I think we have so many people. 62 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: Here, huge turnout, lots of buy in big thing Number 63 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: two assignment football. So obviously this time of year you 64 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: want to stay healthy. They're just wearing helmets and short 65 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: snow tackling at this point. So a lot of it 66 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: for Doug, he said, was just focusing on your role 67 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: on this team and what you have to do come 68 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: season time. 69 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 7: You know, in this time of the year right now, 70 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 7: it's all about just assignment football. You know, there's no 71 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 7: there's no contact, the physicalities out of football, you know, 72 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 7: and it's just about assignments, and we're wanting to see 73 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 7: the young guys you know, incorporated in there. We want 74 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 7: to see the veterans just take another step in leadership 75 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 7: and just understanding, you know, what we're asking them to do. 76 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 7: And it's just a matter of you know, not getting 77 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 7: anybody hurt this time of the year. You just don't 78 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 7: want me setbacks that way, you know. 79 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: This close to camp, Okay, and Big Thing three are 80 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: going to be that new guy. 81 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: We just talked about Calvin Ridley, the first look we've 82 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: kind of seen of him with the team actually playing. 83 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: He was held out of some activities yesterday, not injury related, 84 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: just kind of trying to get into the mix with everything. 85 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: But Press Taylor said he is very excited to have 86 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: him here. 87 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 8: I've watched every snap Calvin's playing in the NFL, just 88 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 8: like a lot of our guys out. So we're very 89 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 8: confident in the player we're getting. And then to be 90 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 8: able to meet him in person, you know, you kind 91 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 8: of We've got a lot of people to vouch for him, 92 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 8: obviously going back to when we acquired him, but the 93 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 8: work he's put in this office, he has been impressive, 94 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 8: just in terms of meeting the extra work he does, 95 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 8: and you can tell he's doing it because he comes 96 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 8: to the next day, he's got his list of questions. 97 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 8: They're very thought out. You can tell he's peeked ahead 98 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 8: of the install or just looking a couple days ahead 99 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 8: as we go one. So he's done a great job 100 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 8: just intermixing with the group and kind of making his 101 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 8: own role. 102 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: Certainly is let's talk about Calvin. 103 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: I think that's the guy everybody wanted to have eyes 104 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 3: on yesterday, right in terms of, you know, they're not 105 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: doing a whole lot, but just to be able to 106 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: see him out there running with everybody. What were your observations, Wheney, 107 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: We did see him in because he was held out 108 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: of a couple of things. 109 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 4: John. I saw one play where he was insanely open 110 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 4: for the route he was running. That's what he does 111 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 4: my understanding, And I haven't heard this anybody officially, but 112 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: I've heard it sort of in the water. The only 113 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: concern with him is trying to hold him back so 114 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: he didn't hurt himself. Right, He's working so hard and 115 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: he's so into it. I don't know if that's who 116 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: he is is always my senses that it is, but 117 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: right now trying to get him with this team. So 118 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 4: I think that's why he was held out yesterday. They 119 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: want to make sure he's there for training camp. To me, 120 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 4: I saw I needed to see yesterday put him on 121 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: ice and having ready for July twenty seven. 122 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 5: You're absolutely right. There are guys who are really great 123 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 5: technical route runners, right, and that's how they get open. 124 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 5: And he looked like a really great technical route runner. 125 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 5: But he didn't get open yesterday because of technicalities. He 126 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 5: got open because of athleticism. My just perception one day, 127 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 5: one practice, one hour was that this guy is supremely 128 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 5: gifted as an athlete and is polished as a technical receiver. 129 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 5: So his ability to do both is what has made 130 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: him a really good receiver in this league. And just 131 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 5: looking at him and Kirk and Jay Jones and imagining 132 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 5: Evan Ingram and what they can do with Travis etn 133 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 5: and then you kind of mix in Brenton Strange and 134 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 5: Tank Picksby, you can get really excited. But of all those, 135 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 5: it's the Ridley part that is the most intriguing, just 136 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 5: because he's that explosive, big play guy and. 137 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: This is not a knock on what they had. 138 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 5: What they had was really really good. 139 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 4: He seems to me a level up of any receiver 140 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 4: they've had, and not just based on yesterday, but everything 141 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 4: you hear and then seen it yesterday. His numbers spare 142 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: that out pure athleticism. Being that sort of a player, 143 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: I have to believe that Doug and Press are really 144 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: excited about what that's going to mean for Ridley and 145 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: then what's going to mean for the rest of this offense. 146 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be if they stay healthy, it'll 147 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: be the best offensive teams ever had. 148 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 5: Now, having said that, the best throw of the day 149 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 5: was to throw down the middle and play action from 150 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 5: Trevor to Christian Kirk where he caught it over his 151 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 5: shoulder and that was almost yeah, okay, no problem. It 152 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 5: was clear and it should be that Trevor Lawrence and 153 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 5: this offense in year two together, he just he's mastered it. Mastered, 154 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 5: maybe a little strong, he's really got a mastery of 155 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 5: it with the opportunity to get even better. Just simply 156 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 5: where he's throwing the ball quickly, decisively. Didn't look like 157 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 5: he didn't expect anything that he saw. And again we 158 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 5: go on and on and on because it's OTAs and 159 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 5: they're running against air and all of that. But it's 160 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: just John. How many times did we talk about it 161 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 5: over the years, we were comparing the Jags passing offense, 162 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 5: whether it was you know, Blaine Gabbard or Blake Bortles 163 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 5: or whoever the quarterback was, to what you used to 164 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 5: see in Indy. And the ball was always on the 165 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 5: ground in Jacksonville, always on the ground. You used to say, 166 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 5: it was never on the ground in Indy. Yesterday the 167 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: ball was in receiver's hands. 168 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. I didn't make that comparison very often, but be. 169 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 5: Clear, I wasn't comparing, but it was pretty clear that 170 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 5: an efficient passing offense, where the best passing offense is 171 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 5: one where the ball in practice is not on the ground. 172 00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: The adding of weapons to this offense and a what 173 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 4: is it an eighteen month period basically Christian Kirk Evan 174 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 4: Ingram Travis atn healthy up, it's been a complete turnover, 175 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 4: and again I think it's got a chance to be 176 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: one of the top three offense in the league next year. 177 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exciting because you don't need to know anything 178 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: about football. See Calvin Ridley out there and know that 179 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: he's athletic and he's going to be able to get 180 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: himself open no matter what the play is, so whether 181 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: or not, which he's also working really hard to get 182 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: to understand this offense, but just physically he's able to 183 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: get himself there well. 184 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 5: And then there were a couple of passes yesterday to 185 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: a guy that we haven't mentioned yet, Jamal Agnew, who 186 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 5: won't have to play that role, that sort of switch 187 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 5: role as often because there are more targets. But when 188 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 5: you do put him on the field, I mean, he's 189 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 5: capable of making a play that very few other guys could. 190 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 5: So there are and now you mixing Press Taylor and 191 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 5: Mike McCoy with Doug Peterson and there's just a nice 192 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 5: exciting chemistry project going on. 193 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: There's no weakness. I mean last year, when you look 194 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 4: at this offense, the one thing you sort of always 195 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: thought was, well, it maybe don't quite have a one. 196 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 4: Well it looks like they've got a one now. I 197 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 4: don't know. It didn't even to hold him back last year, 198 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: but I think what Ridley's going to bring them is 199 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 4: more consistency. They got it later in the season anyway, 200 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 4: but having a guy who they who Trevor trust implicitly 201 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 4: on third down. I just when you think about the 202 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: real way games play out, you can just see a 203 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 4: guy like Ridley giving them one more third down conversion 204 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: in each half, and think about that how that can 205 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: tilt a game in your favor. I think he's going 206 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: to make himself better and everybody on this team better, and. 207 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: It helps the rest of the group out. You can 208 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: tell they're just it's getting everybody that little bit of 209 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: extra out there, right, because even when you add someone 210 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: like that, it's not really like it's taking away necessarily 211 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: from your playing time because that opens up a lot 212 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: of stuff for other people because you've got to cover 213 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley every play, so that's going to open up 214 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff for the other wide receivers. 215 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 5: Well, and you talk about getting more out of everyone else. 216 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 5: To watch that's the offensive lineman, right, And it's tough 217 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 5: because they're not doing the same things they'll do in summer. 218 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 5: But to watch the way that Brandon Sheriff was hitting 219 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 5: the bag, right. I Mean, we talked last week about 220 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 5: Anton Harrison and the difference between the number one pick 221 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 5: and a guy who came maybe in the undrafted right. 222 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 5: You see Brandon Sheriff out there hitting the bag, and 223 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 5: even Luke Fortner was coming back for year two and 224 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 5: Walker Little and there's an he'd used his word because 225 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 5: everyone wants to pick it apart, but there was an intensity. 226 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 5: They understand they've got three weeks here, and I think 227 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 5: in the back of their mind they're thinking, hey, Doug 228 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 5: gave us mini camp off last year, right, if we 229 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 5: come work really hard, which is what they did last 230 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 5: year to get that off. But they also understand that 231 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 5: there's something here and they want to maximize it. They 232 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 5: don't want to miss this opportunity. And you could see 233 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 5: it across the field yesterday, both sides of the ball. Lineman, 234 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 5: defensive backs, wide receivers, they were all working with a 235 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 5: level of hey man, let's not miss this intensity. 236 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 4: Well, they may, you know, it's hard to predict the future, 237 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 4: but they may never be as loaded offensively as they 238 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 4: are right now because we have to re sign Trevor. 239 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 4: It may change the dynamic in terms of I don't 240 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 4: know that they'll have a Zay Jones, Kirk Ridley, Ingram Strange. 241 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 4: Those seem like they could be five to six really 242 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 4: top end guys with Trevor signing later. It may come 243 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: down to where they have two really dynamic and you 244 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 4: can win with that. 245 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 5: Yep. 246 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: But this group, certainly, you don't get the idea they 247 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: will be no group together forever. The time is now 248 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: for this group. 249 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 5: And that was evident on the field just today. They 250 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 5: see that. 251 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: I want to talk a little bit about Doug talking 252 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 3: about assignment football. Right, So we've gotten to the point 253 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 3: there's a lot of veterans returning to this team, and 254 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: I think, maybe correct me if I'm wrong. 255 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: You guys were here. 256 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: But for the first time, maybe people aren't being asked 257 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: to do more than their own job. They are literally 258 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: going to have just very specific roles they're going to fill. 259 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: You know, we'll talk a little bit about the running 260 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: back room and you know what some of the tight 261 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: ends are expected to do. But this is exciting when 262 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: you get to this point because of the depth that 263 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 3: they're trying to add to this roster. You're not trying 264 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: to fill. You know, we're not going to have Etn 265 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: making every single carry this season. He's going to be 266 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: able to share that role with some people. And for 267 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: the first time, when you have a good team, you 268 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: want to be able to do that and have that versatility. 269 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 5: I think another way to say that John is the 270 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 5: entire playbook is open. You know, so Doug came in 271 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 5: here last year with a young quarterback, and Christian Kirk 272 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 5: and Zay Jones and Evan Ingram were sensations we didn't 273 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 5: know they were going to be right now, all of 274 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 5: a sudden you mix in Calvin Ingram And what does 275 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 5: that do for Jamal Ingram and Tank Bigsby and what 276 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 5: does that do for Travis etn. So what you're essentially 277 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 5: saying is is that Doug, who maybe had a third 278 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 5: of what he wanted to do last year, you know, 279 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 5: now maybe this year he can go all the way 280 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 5: and put plays in that he didn't even think about 281 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 5: thinking about last year. 282 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 4: I think you both said it the right way it. 283 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: I think about Christian Kirk, who was is a fine 284 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 4: last year and had a really, really, really good year. 285 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 4: I think his role will be more defined and more 286 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 4: natural with Ridley here. Now to say Christian can't step 287 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: up and be a go to one at times, but 288 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 4: I think his role really in the slot and as 289 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 4: somebody who can come out of the slot and play 290 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 4: every spot when needed. Much more defined for him, and 291 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 4: I do think Kyle's point is exactly right. You now 292 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: have a situation where it was strange. You think by 293 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 4: the end of the season, you can go to two 294 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: tight end sets. You don't have to have Etn on 295 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 4: the field every play. You can have Tank Bigsby on 296 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: the field at times giving him some relief. So it's 297 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 4: I said during the draft to me, they found a 298 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: way to get Doug. I don't call it the best 299 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: offense he's ever had, because Philly was really good in seventeen, 300 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: but these receivers on paper are better than Philly's receivers 301 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 4: that year. The tight ends you know who knows. But 302 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 4: it's back to I think the full deck of cards 303 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 4: that he had and. 304 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 5: Fell in and even some of those aces or jokers, 305 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 5: if you will. I mean, think about what we heard 306 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one before Travis Etn got hurt, the 307 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 5: different ways they could use him in the slot, in 308 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 5: the wing. Now, with Tank Bigsby here, Doug and Press 309 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 5: can unleash him in a number of creative different ways. 310 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 5: And that's Doug's style, is to be really creative with 311 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 5: his matchups a guy like Etn because of Bixby. I 312 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 5: mean that's really interesting to think about how they'll use 313 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 5: him and where they can stack him as a wide receiver, 314 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 5: maybe behind Kirk or in a three receiver formation, a 315 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 5: bunch formation with tight ends. I mean, there's just there's 316 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 5: no limit to the creativity and that's what's really cool. 317 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: And I don't think it has to take good carries 318 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 4: away from Travis and oh no, he's still that. That's 319 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 4: always the thing. People want to create contorts. Well, it's 320 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 4: going to take carries away from Travis. I think what 321 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 4: they can do now with Travis is run him until 322 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 4: he needs a break and then not worry about out 323 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: trying to, you know, manage his carrie necessarily. I'm telling 324 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: you last year, late in the season, every time he 325 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: was down because he runs hard and as and when 326 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: you run hard, you get banged up. The times have 327 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 4: to come out of the game. You kind of held 328 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: your breath when he was coming out of the game, 329 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: hoping he'd find a way to get back in. I 330 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: don't think you're gonna be holding your breath as much 331 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 4: as Tank. 332 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 5: No, And let me be more specific with it. Do 333 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 5: you remember twenty eighteen they had a package with Leonard 334 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 5: Fournette and Corey Grant that they were incredibly excited about 335 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 5: because they had so many different clever ways to use them. 336 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 5: Corey Grant was a shorter but incredibly fast, elusive back, 337 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 5: and of course Leonard is a pounder and Leonard popped 338 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 5: his hamstring on opening Day in New York that year 339 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 5: and they never got to unleash it because three weeks later, Corey, 340 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 5: you know, had the foot injury in Kansas City was 341 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 5: dead in the water. Well, now, with two backs like this, 342 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 5: the possibilities with these two guys is endless. They're both 343 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 5: different style runners. 344 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: And in the current NFL you have to have multiple 345 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: running backs. That's just by the nature of that position. 346 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: People are gonna get hurt, and you don't want everybody. 347 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: You don't want Etn making the bulk with those carries. 348 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: You want to give him some breaks. We're gonna actually 349 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: hear from him. It's coming up in the B block. 350 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: We'll hear from the players after OTA day number one, 351 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: So stay with us for that. Welcome back to Drive 352 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: Time here today on Tuesday, May twenty third, I'm kay Nannie, Stevens, 353 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: Brian and John with me here today. We got to 354 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: see a little bit over an hour and a half 355 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: actually yesterday of OTA day number one in the books 356 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: for twenty twenty three, and they don't do a ton 357 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: out there, but we did get to speak to them 358 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: after and that's always nice. And as we mentioned earlier, 359 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: great attendance, other than a couple of guys that we 360 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: kind of expected wouldn't be here right now, so I 361 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: do want to talk. I got to catch up with 362 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: Rashan Jenkins, and obviously he's always vocal, he likes to talk, 363 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: but he was saying that, you know, after last year, 364 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: one of his best seasons here in Jacksonville, he's really 365 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: looking forward to kind of improving upon and that they're 366 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: really thinking about that big game in February. 367 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 9: Yeah. Absolutely, we saw just the potential that our team 368 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 9: had and you know, that small little bit of success 369 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 9: that we were able to have, and I feel like 370 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 9: guys are just more hungry for that, and I feel 371 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 9: like that's just a good you know, this is a 372 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 9: good goal to chase, you know, that super Bowl. You know, 373 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 9: everybody wants a Super Bowl. But the work starts now. 374 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 9: You got to put in the work now, and it 375 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 9: doesn't come come easy. We gotta say, and work to win. 376 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 9: You know, you're not just going to step out there 377 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 9: and win. You got to work for it. 378 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: Right now, hopefully speaking into existence, I would imagine. 379 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 5: He's a great example John because remember in twenty twenty one, 380 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 5: he was a liability and coverage right now. Part of 381 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 5: the problem was is that they had all sorts of 382 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 5: issues in twenty twenty one, but you didn't know what 383 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 5: you were going to get from him. In twenty twenty two. 384 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 5: You hope that he would be that guy that Trent 385 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 5: Balkey talked about when they signed him in the spring 386 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 5: of twenty twenty one. And of course he gave us 387 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 5: two of the most memorable plays in Jaguars history, the 388 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 5: interception in an overtime that beat the Cowboys and the 389 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 5: sack that set up the game winning touchdown by Josh 390 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 5: Allen that put this team in the playoffs. I mean, 391 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 5: those are two of the top five defensive plays in 392 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 5: NFL histor or sorry, not NFL Jaguars anyway, Jaguars's and 393 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 5: they came from Rayeon Jenkins. So now, if you if 394 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 5: Devin Lloyd right or Trayvon Walker more particularly takes a 395 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 5: huge step like he did from year one to year two, 396 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 5: Oh gosh, holy cow. Right, But I just I look 397 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 5: at him and I think, my goodness, none of us 398 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 5: saw last year coming, and now you look at him 399 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 5: and expect him to make plays like that. 400 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 4: Well, Raychean sorted to find the defense in a way. 401 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 4: Last year it wasn't really a great defense. It had 402 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 4: stretches where you worried about it, but it also was 403 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 4: fourth in the league in takeaways. They made plays when 404 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 4: they were there to be made, and Rayshawn certainly defined that. 405 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 4: I'm not sure he was great in coverage all year, 406 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 4: but when those plays are there to be made, he 407 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: made them. You're sort of walking on a little bit 408 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: of a line when you do that. But as the 409 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 4: way this defense is gonna have to. 410 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: Play, I think it's exciting too when you see a 411 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 3: team obviously that shows flashes, right because if you have 412 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 3: that ability, and you we know that ability is there, 413 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 3: it's a lot of it's going to be, you know, continuity, 414 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 3: being able to do that all season long. And I 415 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 3: really feel like that's the focus right now because obviously, 416 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: you know they didn't finish the season. Everybody wants to win 417 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl, So other than the Chiefs, everybody was 418 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: unhappy with the way their season finished last year, but 419 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: you really feel like they turned the page a little bit. 420 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: But they're focused on just continuing that and not putting 421 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: themselves in a hole where they have. 422 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: To win a bunch of games in a row at 423 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: the end of the year. 424 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 5: You know, at this time last year, we were talking 425 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 5: about the Jaguars learning to trust. You remember that was 426 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 5: a big conversation because Doug talked about it. The Urban 427 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 5: Meyer thing was just such a disaster and we're like, Okay, 428 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 5: how long will it take them to recover? A year later, 429 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 5: we're talking about them talking about being in. 430 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: The Super Bowl, and that alone is impressive. 431 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 5: I mean, that tells you what Doug and Trent and 432 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 5: their entire staff on both sides were able to do 433 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 5: last year. But it tells you how much this team 434 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 5: believes in their quarterback. I mean, they raycheon Jay just 435 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 5: not talking about all the pass rush is going to 436 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 5: take down the quarterback. Now you don't have to say it. 437 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 5: They believe in the quarterback. They know what he's capable 438 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 5: of do it. 439 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: And obviously you talk about mental toughness and visualization and 440 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: what you need to do in the off season, but 441 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 3: there's a lot of places where people won't even say that. 442 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: They're like, we're taking it one game in time. They 443 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: won't even think that way. But there's several players we've 444 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 3: talked to in the off season and that really is 445 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: a focus for them this year. You know, super Bowl 446 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 3: is a thought in their mind, and it's nice to 447 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 3: be at a spot where you're like, yeah, that could actually happen. 448 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: It's not a far fetched, like crazy idea. 449 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, ratchet it up a little bit, improve in a 450 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 4: couple of key areas, and that's within reach for this team. 451 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: It's very exciting. 452 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna talk a little bit about Travis 453 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: Etn because we mentioned him earlier and that running back 454 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: room is really exciting. He talked a little bit about 455 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: what he's seen out of Tank Bigsby so far and 456 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: what it's like working with him. 457 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 5: I like Tank. 458 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 10: I feel like he's very passionate. I feel like he 459 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 10: loves a game of football, and I feel like that's 460 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 10: the guys you want around you. That's the guy who's 461 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 10: going to push her to be great each and every 462 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 10: day because he's looking up to me, and I want 463 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 10: to be I want to be a greatest album for him. 464 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 10: I want him to see how this is a bit professional. 465 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 10: So he's going to push me to get better, and 466 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 10: I'm going to push him to get better. 467 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: He also talked a little bit about taking the load 468 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: off of him. He's excited about it, which you know, 469 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: some people could see it as competition less carries for me, 470 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: I want more carries. 471 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: But he's excited. He's like, oh, yeah, take some of 472 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: the hits off me. 473 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: I'll be able to play a little bit more and 474 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: be a little more outside of the box. 475 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 5: I meane in that way, everyone wants to be their best. 476 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 5: But what I understand about him, and he talks about 477 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 5: it when he talks about he and Trevor in particular, 478 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 5: he's a winner. He came from Clemson where all they 479 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 5: did was win. That kid wants to win whatever it takes. Yeah, 480 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 5: whatever it takes. If it means that he has four 481 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 5: or five less carries a game, I don't think he cares. 482 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 5: I think winning. You can hear it in his voice, 483 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 5: you can see it in his eyes if you're standing 484 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 5: around him in front of him. It might not come 485 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 5: through on the video, but he's all about winning, and 486 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 5: he knows he's going to contribute. He's very confident in 487 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 5: his ability. 488 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: Travis really surprised me last year. I knew he was good, 489 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: I didn't realize that he was as tough for runner 490 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 4: as he is. And I know, ky, when you watch 491 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: this kid play, he's inside the tackles and if he's 492 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 4: if he's being brought down. He never gives up on 493 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 4: a play and therefore he takes a lot of punishment. 494 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 4: I don't think he can be great Travis unless he 495 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 4: is running that way, meaning unless he is giving everything 496 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 4: he's got under play. I don't think he's a step 497 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: out of bounds running back. If you're going to be 498 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 4: that kind of a player right now in this league, 499 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 4: it's a running back, you need another guy in the 500 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 4: backfield with you. So I think I think Bigsby I'm 501 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 4: glad that he I think Travis sort of sees that. 502 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 4: I think it's what he's sort of saying when he 503 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: says that, And I think it'll be a really good 504 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 4: backfield combination, and I think it will benefit him even 505 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 4: if it takes two carries away a game. 506 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: I think that's exciting, the combo of them together. Also 507 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 3: Etan mentioned how much he appreciates Doug's perspective of if 508 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: he does fumble or put the ball on the ground, 509 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: that he's still going to get the ball back. He's 510 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: not a coach that's like, Okay, you're not touching it 511 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: for the rest of the game. So that's not something 512 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 3: he fears. With another running back in the room, he 513 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 3: knows he's still going to get the ball back. And 514 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: with running backs, a lot of it is confidence and 515 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 3: trust that you're you know, if you do mess up, 516 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: you can still get it back, because if you get 517 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: in their own head about it, sometimes that can backfire 518 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: on you. But it's it's nice to hear that he's 519 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: so appreciative of the relationship he has with Doug. 520 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 5: Well. I appreciated about the fact how many times last 521 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 5: year we're like, oh, because he had a tendency to lose. 522 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah, he needs to appreciate that less this year. 523 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, and fair enough, fair enough, But the point being 524 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 5: is that he rebounded and it was you know, you 525 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,239 Speaker 5: can argue that his twenty five yard run out here 526 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 5: to set up the game winning field goal was you know, 527 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 5: the pivotal game at this play of the season, right. 528 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 5: I mean, it was an amazing run and for a 529 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 5: guy who struggled with the ball in traffic at times, 530 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 5: So his confidence level is really really high. I just 531 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 5: I wasn't sure what we were going to get from him, 532 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 5: but his explosiveness was onspire. 533 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. From talking to Doug early in the season, Combine 534 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 4: or somewhere, I got the impression they really really think 535 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 4: that Travis is going to improve a lot. He wasn't 536 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 4: talking about the fumbles, but remember last year was Travis' 537 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 4: first year in the NFL and playing at a level 538 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: where he got hit a lot, and he was playing 539 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 4: against players who were as good as he was. He 540 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 4: got run down a couple of times, and I still 541 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 4: think it's because he had never been run down at 542 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: Clemson because he was always playing against people he was 543 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 4: better than. So I think the fumbles may have had 544 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 4: something to do with that too. I think you'll see 545 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: a much better, more polished version of Travis atn this year. 546 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 4: Does he have the same amount of yardage, I don't know, 547 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 4: but I think he'll be a more effective player this year. 548 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: Exciting for sure. 549 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 3: We're gonna check in our last time, but hear from 550 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: the players Walker Little obviously, offensive line is something there's 551 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 3: a lot of moving pieces there right now, But he 552 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 3: was just talking about getting ready for the season and 553 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: the opportunity to play. 554 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 11: Good time to kind of distress and calm down and 555 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 11: the locks a little bit. But then yeah, definitely, especially 556 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 11: last few weeks being back here, it's good time to 557 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 11: kind of crank it up and start working on techniques. 558 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 11: And obviously we don't want anyone to get suspended or 559 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 11: her or anything. I don't want cannabis time. But yeah, 560 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 11: I mean it's a chance for me to play and 561 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 11: I'm excited about that. 562 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 3: So obviously Cam Robinson potentially out, we don't have full 563 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: details on that yet. Anton Harrison, you know, your first 564 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 3: run draft pick, and to come in here and be on. 565 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: The right side. 566 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: There's room for a movement. 567 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: There's a lot of versatility, which Doug loves because he 568 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: feels like you can play people in different positions. John, 569 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 3: what are you looking at with this starting or going 570 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 3: to training campus? 571 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 4: Laughed? When I was talking to Walker, that was a 572 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 4: short part of the conversation. I was there most of 573 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 4: the time, and I kind of asked him at the end. 574 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 4: I said, so if Cam comes back or move around, 575 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 4: sort of get into the idea that you know, he's 576 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 4: gonna start the season or left tackle. What happens if 577 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 4: he moves around? Yeah, and he kind of laughed and 578 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 4: he said, I've moved everywhere on this Like he's moved 579 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 4: around so much that he basically says he comes to 580 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 4: work every day and just kind of listens to what 581 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 4: Phil wants him to do, you Phil Rosher, And he 582 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: had a great attitude about he said it, like I've 583 00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: been doing this two years. I've been on the right, 584 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 4: the left side, whatever. Mark along State of Press asked 585 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 4: him if he was a right tackler or left tackle, 586 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 4: and he said, but whatever. Yeah. So I think he 587 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 4: really has a good attitude toward it. I think he 588 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 4: will be the left tackle, if not all this year 589 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 4: moving forward after that, I think he's going to be 590 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: good at that. But I love his attitude toward it 591 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 4: right now. He's a pro now, Brian, He's ready for 592 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,239 Speaker 4: whatever comes at him. 593 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I can remember standing with Tony Boselli 594 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 5: and Jeff Logoman at training camp his rookie year twenty 595 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 5: twenty one, and they marveled at how athletic he is. Right, 596 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 5: So we talked about Calvin Ridley and you can see 597 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 5: the athleticism because he's running and he's jumping. You don't 598 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 5: see that with an offensive lineman. It was the way 599 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 5: that he was, you know, deep in his stance and 600 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 5: able to turn his body back to the inside and 601 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 5: make eye contact with a quarterback that impressed these two guys. Right, 602 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 5: he is a really gifted athlete, and he's always looked 603 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 5: the part, and then late last year he got the 604 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 5: chance to actually act the part out going on the 605 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 5: whole acting thing again, very nice. Aw, He's he is 606 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 5: a really gifted athlete and football player, and I'm with you, John, 607 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 5: I think he's gonna plug in there on the left 608 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 5: side and it's going to be hard to move him out. 609 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 3: Certainly, the mentality is good, right. Obviously, offensive line there 610 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: always pretty selfless in general just by nature. But to 611 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: hear that, you know he's willing to play wherever it is. 612 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: And we've learned from past seasons that injury bug tends 613 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 3: to hit there. So it's not the worst thing in 614 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: the world to have more than a couple of bodies 615 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: that can play multiple positions, So that is definitely key 616 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: for them. So coming up, we're going to do ozone 617 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: snapshot and get a look at some of your questions 618 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 3: for John and we'll give you the answers. 619 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 12: Stay with us, this podcast is friendly. 620 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: Oh so welcome in your favorite time of the week 621 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: ozone mail bag and we get to check in with John. 622 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 3: We can ask all of the questions you want and 623 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 3: he will give you the answers. We're going to check 624 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 3: out question number one, Bad from Sparks, Nevada says the 625 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: Jaguars went from a Tier five team to the top 626 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 3: of Tier two in one season. Do you think if 627 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: they stay healthy that they will be a top two 628 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: seed in the AFC this year? 629 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 4: Well, I think if they stay healthy, they can be. 630 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: The reason I hesitate is the top three in the 631 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 4: AFC are really good. Yes, so I think you can 632 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 4: be a lot better than you were last year. I 633 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 4: think you can be a really good team. I even 634 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 4: think you can be a team that in some years 635 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 4: in the AFC might have gone to the super Bowl. 636 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 4: But it's also very conceivable that you have a really 637 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 4: good year next year you run into the Bengals in 638 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: the in the you know what, I guess the question 639 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 4: was seeding, so it would be, oh, you're gonna have 640 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 4: the second best record in the AFC, I doubt it. Frankly, 641 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: I think they'll be really really good. I'm thinking they 642 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 4: can be eleven twelve wins ish, But I think there's 643 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 4: still going to be a young team that has some flubbs. 644 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 4: They can do it. I don't think it's a failure 645 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 4: at all there if they're the three or four seed 646 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 4: against three very very good franchises right now. 647 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 5: Well, so he asks if they stay healthy, And there's 648 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 5: another side to that coin, and that is just Pat 649 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 5: Mahomes stay healthy? Does Joe Burrow stay healthy? Is Jamar 650 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 5: Chase on the field, what happens with Josh Allen? I 651 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 5: remember nineteen ninety nine, the Jets, coming off of an 652 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 5: AFC championship game, were the favorite in the AFC, and 653 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 5: the Jaguars were thought to be the second or third 654 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 5: best team in the league. Benny Testaverdi Pops's Achilles tendon. 655 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 5: You know, the first or second series of their opening 656 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 5: day game in New York and all of a sudden 657 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 5: they're playing with Rick Meyer and Mark Brunell and the Jags. 658 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 5: Totally different season, right, Totally different seasons. So it isn't 659 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 5: just about you staying healthy, It's about what does your 660 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 5: opponent look like by the time you get to see them. 661 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: It's so hard to predict, obviously, and then you even 662 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: see the Chiefs, like, you know, maybe like last year, 663 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 3: the last couple of years, they lose a couple of 664 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 3: regular season games they probably should have won and they 665 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: end up, you know, dealing with lower seeding than they 666 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: probably should have. So sometimes that doesn't even matter until 667 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 3: you get into the playoffs, right, So I guess we'll 668 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: wait and see. I'm not a big prediction of records 669 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 3: because it's not hard. 670 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 4: There's going to be a team now that you talk 671 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 4: about as a potential conference finalist, yes, every year, and 672 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 4: how it falls, attrition, how other teams play it all 673 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 4: play into that. But I think they'd be good. 674 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 5: And look, we've missed on predictions year after year after year. However, 675 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 5: last year we said, right, seven eight wins and at 676 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 5: the outset if everything goes right, nine right, and at 677 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 5: one point they're two and six and you're thinking, well, 678 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 5: that doesn't look very good, and then it happens. 679 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 6: Right. 680 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: I don't think you had that order though, right. 681 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 5: No, I didn't pick him, just said, you know, seven, eight, nine, 682 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 5: and it played out that way because the quarterback got 683 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 5: hot and found a rhythm with his receivers and the 684 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 5: defense did just enough. 685 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 3: All right, let's check in on special teams for question too, 686 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: justin from Duvall. Of course, do you expect any more 687 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 3: kicker drama this upcoming season? Or does Riley Patterson have 688 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: that spot locked up? 689 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: John? 690 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 4: Credit to Riley because when he first when I first 691 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 4: got this question, I couldn't remember the kicker drama and 692 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 4: then a sort of job in my memory. I remember 693 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 4: they had in training camp they had I think it 694 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 4: was thirty seven kickers as we were getting kicked daily. Yeah, 695 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 4: so does he have it locked up? I think he's 696 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 4: the guy going in. Yeah. I think right now. The 697 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 4: comparison I would use is Logan Cook, for example, Hill 698 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 4: Logan Cook is the lockdown punter on this team, and 699 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 4: he has shown he is an elite punter in the NFL. 700 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 4: I don't think Riley's there. I think he has shown 701 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 4: that he can kick in this league and that he 702 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: can be a good kicker. I think it's his I 703 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 4: don't know that they are just jumping over themselves to 704 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 4: get him out. I think if he continues to perform 705 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 4: as he did last year, I think he'll be fine. 706 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 5: It's his until it's not right. I mean, it's one 707 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 5: of your famous sayings. If he goes into camp and 708 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 5: he performs, well, there's no reason to make a change. 709 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 5: But he was a little bit air. There were some 710 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 5: kicks late in the year last year that you went 711 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 5: is that gonna go? So he's gonna have to have 712 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 5: a good camp and then he's going to have to perform. 713 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 5: And if he does, I think he's the kind of 714 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 5: guy who can develop and become a long term guy. 715 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 5: Is he justin Tucker? 716 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: No? 717 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 5: Who is? There aren't many of those guys and if 718 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 5: you find him, you go draft him. But Riley had 719 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 5: a good year last year and made a couple of 720 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 5: really big kicks, So I don't see why he wouldn't be. 721 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 3: Kicking is such a fickle position because you feel like 722 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: they have it locked up, they have a couple of 723 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: bad games, and then depending on how your coaching staff 724 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: feels about it, you could have two, three, four new 725 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: guys in here the next week. 726 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 5: I was on the sidelines as he lined up to 727 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 5: kick that one against the Chargers last year. I've been 728 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 5: up seiars with Fred and we came down and we're 729 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 5: standing there and I just put myself in his shoes 730 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 5: for a moment. Thought they were down twenty seven to nothing, 731 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 5: they battled back. They have a chance. You win the game, 732 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 5: and it's all on you. I mean, put yourself in 733 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 5: that pressure pack situation for just a moment. If he 734 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 5: can make that kick, I mean, that's a guy that 735 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 5: you like. You want him makes it here? 736 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: Yes, let not. 737 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 5: You're just at the foot, So good luck to him. 738 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 5: He's better not missed an extra point in the preseason 739 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 5: because everyone's gonna be calling for was it James McCourt. 740 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 3: It's always somebody, right, He'll have his chance though. All right, 741 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 3: we're gonna wrap things up with John from Jacksonville. He says, 742 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 3: if you ask me, the current state of the stadium 743 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,239 Speaker 3: is the best it has ever been. So is the 744 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 3: underbelly of the stadium that bad? 745 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: Doesn't look bad to me. 746 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 5: In Grave. 747 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 4: We got a little leak back here this. 748 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: Way or in the underbelly. 749 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 4: So it's uh, look, uh, I'm kidding. We do have 750 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 4: a leak. It's fine. I can deal with that. It's 751 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 4: if you I understand there are people who see this 752 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 4: stadium and they come in and it is probably as 753 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 4: nice as it's been for a long time with the 754 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 4: video with the amenities, uh. 755 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 5: Forward facing fan facing, that's what we. 756 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 4: Have been terrific ad But when they made those changes 757 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 4: and there's improvements over the last decade, at no point 758 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 4: did they ever think, Okay, we're making these improvements. We're fine, 759 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 4: we don't need a new stadium. It was always knowledge 760 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 4: that right now is going to be about the end 761 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 4: of to use Marx phrase, at the end of useful life. 762 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 4: All you have to do is go around the lead 763 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 4: to thirty two stadiums and see that this one is 764 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 4: behind the rest, and if they don't do something about it, 765 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 4: it's going to be woefully behind the rest. I guess 766 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: it probably already is. So you can argue, you can 767 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 4: wonder whatever a new stadium or a major upgrade has 768 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 4: to happen for this team to at least hang on 769 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 4: and be in the conversation, revenue, eise with the rest 770 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 4: of the NFL. 771 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 5: It's awful. I've been here for twenty million years on 772 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 5: that hallway underneath it has always leaked. It's always been. 773 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 5: They built the stadium in nineteen months because they didn't 774 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 5: want to go play in games bill, and they put 775 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 5: the stadium up and it's fine, but in terms of 776 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 5: the space that football has, the space that the front 777 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 5: office has, the quality of it. I mean it's leaking 778 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 5: in here. Come on, it's a studio, right, And it's 779 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 5: not that they don't try to fix it, but it's 780 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 5: hard to do that. Yes, let alone the expansion joins 781 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 5: around this place and the air conditioning and I'm not 782 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 5: qualified to tell you what's wrong with it. It looks 783 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 5: old and if you don't fix it now, it will 784 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 5: cost you so much more because you won't be able 785 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 5: to use the bones of the stadium, as Marcus said, 786 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 5: to be able to build and renovate. At some point 787 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 5: you go, well I can. I got to just tear 788 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 5: that all the way down. So they're making a decision 789 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 5: now based on as John just said, useful life. But 790 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 5: what you can't see you don't want to see. 791 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: Trust me, you have a Marque talent and Trevor Lawrence, 792 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: you got to build around and right, you're going to 793 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 3: make it somewhere people want to come watch football games. 794 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 3: And when you look at some of these other stadiums 795 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 3: going and not that we have to go that far, 796 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 3: but you know, so fi Las Vegas, like some of 797 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 3: these places are amazing. 798 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 5: Well, they just they're about to open the Miller Electric Center, 799 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 5: which is a spectacle. 800 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 2: Huge jump. We should give them credit for that huge 801 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: jump up. 802 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 5: Huge jump up, because if you want to play with 803 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 5: the best teams in this league, you've got to be 804 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 5: on an even preparation field from classrooms to the weight room, 805 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 5: to the meals, to all of those things. And that 806 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 5: facility is what this facility needs to become. 807 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 4: It's the biggest, most popular professional sport in the country. Yes, 808 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 4: if you're going to play in this league, you've got 809 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 4: to you have to pay to be in this league 810 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 4: in terms of stadium, and. 811 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 3: The facility should reflect that for sure, especially for these 812 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 3: guys coming out of college, because some of their facilities 813 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 3: are better there than. 814 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: Maybe they were here. 815 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 3: But we are very excited about that practice facility going in, 816 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 3: hopefully opening up in a couple of weeks. All right, 817 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 3: stick with us, we'll be right back. We'll give you 818 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 3: a preview of what we've got coming up the rest 819 00:36:50,680 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 3: of the week. Now that OTAs are underway, Move. 820 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,959 Speaker 2: The Freight, Move the Freight. 821 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 3: Magellan Transport voted coolest office space in Jacksonville. You can 822 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 3: apply online at www. Dot Magellan Logistics dot com if 823 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 3: you want to check it out. So OTAs kicked off yesterday. 824 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 3: We were able to dodge the rain out there, so 825 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: that was nice because the rest of the week looks 826 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: like it's gonna be really raining, probably inside, but we 827 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 3: do some stuff coming up this week. 828 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks is in the building. 829 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 3: We saw him out yesterday, so he'll be here for 830 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 3: to join JP later on this week. 831 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 2: And John, what are you working on? 832 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 13: Well, I'll be also on I'm sorry the Star the 833 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 13: Stars apologize to me right, you know, and I expect 834 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 13: We are trying to get Tyson Campbell for the ozone 835 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 13: podcast and if things go well, we will have that 836 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 13: on posting on Thursday. 837 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 5: And the reason BUCkies here just to give folks a 838 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 5: flavor of how close we are is to we've got 839 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 5: preseason television meetings, Yes we do, right, so we're not 840 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 5: that far away and we're already starting to talk about that. 841 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 5: It's it's right around the corner. 842 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 2: Oh so, very very exciting. 843 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 3: Hopefully, no news is good news for the rest of 844 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 3: outa's because we're not too too much going on, but 845 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 3: we will check in with them after the long weekend 846 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 3: on Tuesday, so thank you for joining us. That's it 847 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 3: for jaggs drivetime today.