Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford. He is Wes Hodkowitz.
Speaker 1: We're coming to you here from our studios at lambeau
Speaker 1: Field and we are back from the bye week West.
Speaker 1: Not that we ever totally get to check out, because
Speaker 1: there's always some work to be done, but we got
Speaker 1: to spend a few days away from the office. I
Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed yours. Yeah, it was funny. I was
Speaker 1: talking about Ryan Hartwig are magnificent manager of social media,
Speaker 1: and I said to him, actually, Ryan was the one
Speaker 1: that brought this up. I hope he doesn't mind me
Speaker 1: saying it on Sunday. It's like, you know, we still
Speaker 1: had to work last week. I was still in the
Speaker 1: office four out of the five days. But it is
Speaker 1: interesting when you get through Sunday night, you're like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: so this is how the other half lives. Like they
Speaker 1: just they worked five days and then they're off Saturday Sunday.
Speaker 1: Not everybody, I know, there's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: work on the weekends, but it was it was really
Speaker 1: refreshing to be able to do that. Honestly, it was
Speaker 1: just kind of important, just to catch up on life
Speaker 1: a little bit, get some Christmas presents bought and purchased,
Speaker 1: and projects taken care of. So it was fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of enjoyed that those opportunities to sit out
Speaker 1: on Sunday and watch an NFL game and then when
Speaker 1: it's over, just turn the TV off and go do
Speaker 1: something else we're supposed to, like, oh, now I have
Speaker 1: like six hours worth of work to do because the
Speaker 1: game is over, right, So that's not that that was
Speaker 1: not just for the record on Sunday. We did the
Speaker 1: show five and a half years. That's the first time
Speaker 1: I think I've ever sneed. I think it is if
Speaker 1: we're not stopping, we're not and we're not going to reshoot.
Speaker 1: We're not going to reshoot either. That's that has to
Speaker 1: get in. Matt Vin do some He's busy enough, but
Speaker 1: do some research. I don't ever remember sneezing factors on scripted,
Speaker 1: and I realized, I'm like, I can't contain this. This
Speaker 1: is going to happen, So I apologize. We're off to
Speaker 1: a rip roar and starting here, well where I did
Speaker 1: want to start this show actually, with regard to watching
Speaker 1: football on Sunday, is to talk about two streaks that
Speaker 1: came to an end, one being the Detroit Lions winless streak.
Speaker 1: They had not won a game. I believe it was
Speaker 1: for three d and sixty four days dating back to
Speaker 1: and Uh. The Lions get a last second victory over
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, which has some implications for the Packers
Speaker 1: that I'll get to in a minute. But the other
Speaker 1: streak that ended west Jamal Williams actually fumbled a football.
Speaker 1: I believe it's seven seven touches in the regular season
Speaker 1: and then you add some more in the postseason on
Speaker 1: top of that. Still doesn't have a lost recovered. The
Speaker 1: Lions recovered. But Jamal Williams, the former Packers running back
Speaker 1: now Lions running back, actually fumbled a football for the
Speaker 1: first time in his career. Well, and it was funny
Speaker 1: because I think I realized this maybe midway through his
Speaker 1: third season in Green Bay, that he'd been on the streak.
Speaker 1: I think he'd reached like five touches. I remember the
Speaker 1: first time you brought it up on this show actually
Speaker 1: at one point and I wasn't aware of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you you made me aware of it. So I've
Speaker 1: always paid attention since then. And there was no benefit
Speaker 1: whatsoever to me writing anything about it or talking about it,
Speaker 1: because then you just get the people tweeting at you.
Speaker 1: We're to mess up the streak. So I never talked
Speaker 1: about it. But it was a remarkable four years streak
Speaker 1: for him in Green Bay and the fact that he
Speaker 1: had as many touches as he did in Detroit. The
Speaker 1: guy I said this number one thing about Jamal Williams,
Speaker 1: the biggest compliment I can ever pay him. He is
Speaker 1: such a good fundamental football player and a good fundamental
Speaker 1: running back. So uh, fortunately for them, they didn't lose
Speaker 1: the ball, and unfortunately for the Detroit Lions they didn't
Speaker 1: lose that game. They found a way to win a
Speaker 1: game that you could tell meant a lot to Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell and that football team. Yeah. Absolutely, a crazy sequence
Speaker 1: of events there at the end of the game with
Speaker 1: the fourth down decision and then the Vikings decided to
Speaker 1: get a touchdown instead of work the clock, and it
Speaker 1: leaves Jared Goff a whole bunch of time, all of
Speaker 1: that stuff. A last second, last play of the game,
Speaker 1: touchdown pass two. Equinimius st. Brown's brother Aman Raw, I'm
Speaker 1: saying that correctly I'm on ra st Brown. The Lions
Speaker 1: get a win, and the big implications for the Packers
Speaker 1: there with the Vikings losing, the Packers now potentially could
Speaker 1: clinch the NFC North this week. And the way that
Speaker 1: that could happen is the Vikings playing now on a
Speaker 1: short week. They've got a Thursday night game against Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: a suddenly rejuvenated Pittsburgh team after their last second victory
Speaker 1: over the Baltimore Ravens in a big division rivalry. The
Speaker 1: Vikings play Pittsburgh on Thursday. If the Vikings lose that game, west,
Speaker 1: the Packers will take the field Sunday night at lambeau
Speaker 1: Field against the Chicago Bears with a chance to clinch
Speaker 1: a third straight NFC North title. So I will fully
Speaker 1: you know, we have to we have to call a
Speaker 1: spade a spade here because if you and I are
Speaker 1: going to talk about injuries on the Packers side, we
Speaker 1: have to talk about the fact that Daniel Hunter has
Speaker 1: gone down. They didn't have Delvin Cook in this game.
Speaker 1: Eric Kendricks was out that game as well. From any so,
Speaker 1: Minnesota's banged up, but unfortunately for them, in different from
Speaker 1: just the pieces the puzzle has been very much the same.
Speaker 1: This year. They had a huge win of of much
Speaker 1: a well deserved victory in the last moments against the Packers,
Speaker 1: but back to back letdowns. And I said this earlier
Speaker 1: this season, Mike, they really feel like a team to
Speaker 1: me that's just kind of steamrolling towards another five hundred
Speaker 1: type season. And when you fall to a team like
Speaker 1: Detroit that's had to work through its own issues, that
Speaker 1: probably is not the most talented team in the National
Speaker 1: Football League, in the bottom third in that regard in
Speaker 1: terms of what Dan Campbell has to work with. This
Speaker 1: is the ups and downs you go through. Uh. The
Speaker 1: question was asked an inside of inbox, and I still
Speaker 1: I hope you know, Rick Spielman, such a level headed guy,
Speaker 1: you know everybody in that organization. I hope the Vikings
Speaker 1: do realize that this is going to be a disappointing
Speaker 1: year potentially for them. Again, I still don't feel even
Speaker 1: though the defense isn't great, I still don't feel like
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer's the problem there. He's the best head coach
Speaker 1: that's come through this division that hasn't been collect thing
Speaker 1: a paycheck from the Packers in my estimation, in twenty
Speaker 1: years Yeah so, they probably probably since Lovey Smith was
Speaker 1: in Chicago. Yeah so, and just just seeing how this
Speaker 1: all goes. But man, I'm telling you, if this thing
Speaker 1: doesn't go well for them on Thursday, it's gonna get
Speaker 1: ugly quick. Yeah. I mean the when I look at
Speaker 1: the Viking season, and we had talked earlier, you know,
Speaker 1: in getting ready for the Packers Vikings matchup, which ended
Speaker 1: up being a down to the wire last play thing.
Speaker 1: We talked about how the Vikings have been in all
Speaker 1: of these last second games. And yes, you're gonna win some,
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose something. That's the way this league goes.
Speaker 1: But for me, from the Vikings perspective, they've lost two
Speaker 1: games this season that you absolutely cannot lose. You can't
Speaker 1: lose a primetime game at home against the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: team that is starting a quarterback for the first time
Speaker 1: in his life in the NFL. You cannot lose that
Speaker 1: football game at home at night. And you can't go
Speaker 1: to Detroit and play a division rival that is O
Speaker 1: ten and one when you have so much to play
Speaker 1: for and let that game get away in the final seconds.
Speaker 1: To me, I mean, yes, the as I said, the
Speaker 1: Vikings have had all of these last second losses, wins,
Speaker 1: back and forth, whatever, But those two games that you
Speaker 1: really cannot lose. That's the difference between the Vikings being
Speaker 1: seven and five and five and seven right now are
Speaker 1: those two results. And there's been a lot of pooh,
Speaker 1: you know, swung at, slung at Jared Goff this year,
Speaker 1: But you gotta give golf credit. That looked like a
Speaker 1: guy that had been there and he'd seen a lot.
Speaker 1: He played in the Super Bowl and the winning time
Speaker 1: he came through for his football team. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: to be able to pull that out, and you know,
Speaker 1: as aman Ross and Brown being the one to catch
Speaker 1: that pass in the end zone, all the chips are down.
Speaker 1: You gotta get it. You talk about the games that
Speaker 1: the Vikings have lost close, Detroit's had a lot of
Speaker 1: those two and they finally gone a way to get
Speaker 1: that win. But if you would have told me that
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins would have thrown for three and forty yards
Speaker 1: and a hundred seventeen passer rating justin Jefferson goes off
Speaker 1: for another hundred eighty yards and they still lose that
Speaker 1: game to Detroit, I think I would have probably thought
Speaker 1: that you're full of it. Yeah, well, the Vikings, because
Speaker 1: the Vikings are five and seven. That is a big
Speaker 1: reason now that the Packers are on the verge of
Speaker 1: potentially clinching that NFC North title. Turning our attentions a
Speaker 1: little more directly to the Packers what we're waiting to
Speaker 1: see this week West Because I've used the word potentially
Speaker 1: on this show already, and Matt Lafleur used the word
Speaker 1: potentially in his meeting with the media on Monday. Maybe,
Speaker 1: just maybe David Baktiari and or j you'r Alexander and
Speaker 1: or za Darius Smith could be back on the practice
Speaker 1: field for the Packers very soon. Now, again, we don't know,
Speaker 1: and Matt Lafleur, as he has said all season long,
Speaker 1: was making no guarantees, no promises whatsoever. But signs are
Speaker 1: pointing to whether it's this week, next week, maybe heading
Speaker 1: into Christmas, whatever the case might be, that these three
Speaker 1: All Pro players, a five time All Pro left tackle
Speaker 1: to second team All Pro defensive stars could be coming
Speaker 1: back for Green Bay here at some point during the
Speaker 1: stretch run. It's at least good to hear the way
Speaker 1: in the inflection and Lafleur's voice when talking about those
Speaker 1: three guys, because to make note of that, when he
Speaker 1: was asked about Josh Myers, he was quick to say,
Speaker 1: now he's not going to practice yet. He's not that close.
Speaker 1: He could have easily just written off any of those
Speaker 1: other three. He didn't do that. Now again, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of excitement in the inbox, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: excitement on Twitter. Calm down just a little bit, you know, Jr.
Speaker 1: Alexander hasn't practiced yet. SA Darius Smith hasn't practiced yet.
Speaker 1: David Bactier practice a little bit, didn't practice for the
Speaker 1: past few weeks, could potentially be back this week. It's
Speaker 1: still a process. But the Packers to be sitting at
Speaker 1: nine and three, one game out from the top of
Speaker 1: the division, as you said, how close they are to
Speaker 1: clinching a division title. To have those guys potentially available
Speaker 1: on the horizon for them here, be it on Christmas,
Speaker 1: be it, you know, against the Vikings, be it in
Speaker 1: the finale, be it in the playoffs. That is going
Speaker 1: to be such a galvanizing moment for an offense that
Speaker 1: has had to whether not having box tr at the
Speaker 1: most important position on the offensive line for twelve games
Speaker 1: is season for an outside linebacker group that has just
Speaker 1: had to make it work. They've had to ask more
Speaker 1: from Shawn Gary in a quarterback contingent that has just
Speaker 1: been a bevy of different guys contributing in different you know,
Speaker 1: utilization of person on a week to week basis. Any
Speaker 1: of those three guys come back, great, two of them
Speaker 1: come back fantastic. You get three of them back and
Speaker 1: you add them to the recipe that the Packers have
Speaker 1: already been building. That's that that's what can get you
Speaker 1: over the hump here in terms of being able to
Speaker 1: really start thinking we are not just the team wanting
Speaker 1: to compete for Super Bowl, we expect to be there. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's uh. That's that's the biggest wait and see thing
Speaker 1: here with with the Packers with regard to personnel down
Speaker 1: the stretch. Five games to go in the regular season.
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, the Packers right in the thick of
Speaker 1: things as far as the top playoff spot, that number
Speaker 1: one spot in the NFC will be the only one
Speaker 1: with the buy which the Packers got last year. You
Speaker 1: have Arizona at ten and two. The Cardinals knocked off
Speaker 1: the Bears this past weekend. To maintain that one game
Speaker 1: lead Packers and the Buccaneers at nine and three, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Rams both eight and four. So you're
Speaker 1: looking at five teams within all within two games of
Speaker 1: one another, with five games to play, with all of
Speaker 1: this potential jockeying for position and everything going on, It's
Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting to see how to see how
Speaker 1: this shakes out. It's gonna be incredible theater down the stretch.
Speaker 1: And I know Matt Lafloor, and you asked him the
Speaker 1: question about that. He mentioned, it's like this every year.
Speaker 1: But to have, you know, one team that is in
Speaker 1: first place with two losses, but to have this many
Speaker 1: teams in the three and four loss range and really
Speaker 1: all on a given day looking like the best team
Speaker 1: in the NFC in the NFC um it adds a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, elements to this. And then when
Speaker 1: you look at the way that these seasons end for
Speaker 1: some of these teams, like Washington for example, it's someone
Speaker 1: pointed out insider inbox. I never even realized it until then.
Speaker 1: Washington finishes the year with five straight division games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have these different mix and matches of of these
Speaker 1: schedules and seeing who prevails out of it, and if
Speaker 1: you're Green Bay, all you can do is focus on yourself.
Speaker 1: And for them, they're coming out of a week third
Speaker 1: team by it was challenging to get to that checkpoint,
Speaker 1: but they reached it and now you're you're trying to
Speaker 1: build on that during this final stretch of the year,
Speaker 1: and in you know, three of the five at home,
Speaker 1: and certainly some win will matchups against the North. Well.
Speaker 1: It's really interesting too. I know we don't talk much
Speaker 1: about the a f C on this show, but right now,
Speaker 1: the when you look at those playoff picture graphics, the
Speaker 1: seven teams in the a f C that are in
Speaker 1: those seven playoff spots, all of them have either four
Speaker 1: or five losses. All seven of those teams are within
Speaker 1: one game of the lost column, you know, uh, within
Speaker 1: each other. So there's gonna be a lot to get
Speaker 1: to get sorted out in the other conference. Can ask
Speaker 1: you an impossible question, Are the Patriots the best team
Speaker 1: in the FC? I'm going to say no, It's fine, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just here. I think I think right now they
Speaker 1: might be. I'm just not convinced that in January they
Speaker 1: will be. The PA the wins are strong enough, maybe
Speaker 1: they will be the the Patriots are. The Patriots are
Speaker 1: playing some really really good football right now. And I
Speaker 1: think we've seen the Chiefs, the Bills, the Bengals, the Chargers,
Speaker 1: We've seen all these teams in the a f C
Speaker 1: go through these ups and downs. The Patriots are the
Speaker 1: team that that that is on the steadiest course right now.
Speaker 1: But again, it's still there are five games left and
Speaker 1: then you have the postseason with only one team getting
Speaker 1: good bye at everybody except that one seed would have
Speaker 1: to win three playoff games to get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: To me, there's still so much football left that I
Speaker 1: just don't know even though the Patriots are the best
Speaker 1: playing the best right now, that they'll be playing the
Speaker 1: best in January. What a brilliant game plan though, carries
Speaker 1: three passes and honestly putting your young quarterback in a
Speaker 1: position to win. Somebody asked that inbox to well, what
Speaker 1: is Mac Jones done to be the rook of the year.
Speaker 1: He's done every single thing that Bill Belichick has asked
Speaker 1: him to do, just like he did every single thing
Speaker 1: that Nick Saban asked him to do. And this guy
Speaker 1: is making this thing work. And honestly, Mike, if you
Speaker 1: ever needed to understand how valuable coaching is at this
Speaker 1: level and to have good coaches if you don't just
Speaker 1: believe it. Looking at lambou Field and what Matt Laflour
Speaker 1: and his staff have done, what Bill Belichick has done,
Speaker 1: and that staff have done this year, Steve Belichick, all
Speaker 1: of them, that was. That was. I enjoyed watching that
Speaker 1: football game on Monday night. That was enjoyable to watch
Speaker 1: for as bizarre as it was, Yeah, it was. It
Speaker 1: was a reminder that it's uh, it's fun to watch
Speaker 1: football games this timing year that are not played indoors
Speaker 1: and when field position matters. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Some shoutouts
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Speaker 1: coming in to lambeau Field Sunday night football in primetime,
Speaker 1: it will be the Chicago Bears. The biggest question that
Speaker 1: you know the Packers are going to again wait and
Speaker 1: see as far as the opponent goes, is will Justin
Speaker 1: Fields be back from the rib injury that has cost
Speaker 1: him a few games now or will Andy Dalton be
Speaker 1: still under center for Chicago. I guess in my mind,
Speaker 1: I say, I don't know if it's necessarily something. The
Speaker 1: Packers are overly concerned about which quarterback the Bears play,
Speaker 1: but you sort of have to have a proper plan
Speaker 1: for each one, don't you, because because these two quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are very different players. I don't want to say I
Speaker 1: was disappointed to Andy Dalton, but man, if you would
Speaker 1: have taken away the uniform number, um, the shock of
Speaker 1: red hair, um, all of that, I wouldn't believe that
Speaker 1: that was an Andy Dalton quarterback in the Chicago Bears
Speaker 1: on Sunday watch most that didn't look good. It didn't
Speaker 1: look good and he made mistakes that again, I get it.
Speaker 1: It's the NFL. It's a highly competitive league, and it
Speaker 1: was crappy conditions. Cardinals had to deal with it too,
Speaker 1: But it was it was. It was. It was rainy
Speaker 1: and not ideal in Chicago, and it was a difference
Speaker 1: between a team turning the ball over in a team
Speaker 1: generating turnovers. That was the difference in the game. And
Speaker 1: if Andy Dalton's a quarterback, if I look at that film,
Speaker 1: I'm like, we gotta find ways to put pressure on them.
Speaker 1: We gotta find ways to get the ball back. And
Speaker 1: but if I'm Mett Maggie this week, as I've said
Speaker 1: probably for the last three years, when David Montgomery is
Speaker 1: right and they get the ball in his hands, that
Speaker 1: offense is different. It doesn't matter who the quarterback is.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what the offensive line looks like, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if Allen Robinson is playing. David Montgomery is
Speaker 1: the catalyst to all this. And I thought Montgomery played
Speaker 1: exceptionally well in that matchup with the opportunities that he
Speaker 1: was given. But they made way too many mistakes. To me,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Chicago Bears are a bad football team,
Speaker 1: but they made some pretty bad mistakes to be able
Speaker 1: to put themselves in a position to win that game
Speaker 1: against the top team of the NFC. Right now, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: they simply they simply turn the ball over too much,
Speaker 1: and you can't do that. I agree with you whole
Speaker 1: hardly on Montgomery that the Bears. The Bears offense looks
Speaker 1: efficient when the offense runs through David Montgomery. Now that
Speaker 1: being said, I also think from a passing perspective, they've
Speaker 1: missed Alan Robinson totally sorely. Um when with with and
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many games exactly he's missed now,
Speaker 1: but um, but he's a big time target and no
Speaker 1: matter who the quarterback has been for the Bears, and
Speaker 1: I think offensively they've missed him. And on the defensive side,
Speaker 1: it's it's not the same without Khalil matt coming off
Speaker 1: one of those edges. This this Chicago Bears, you know,
Speaker 1: to say they've lost their edge, I mean, yeah, pun
Speaker 1: intended and on all that, but without Khalil Mack that
Speaker 1: this group just isn't the same. They had one team
Speaker 1: set back and no quarterback hits of Kyler Murray in
Speaker 1: that game. Um, it's just the pressure just wasn't It
Speaker 1: wasn't the same. Now now, certainly you know Hicks has
Speaker 1: gone through his stuff this year. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: still think Roquan Smith, I still think incredibly highly of him.
Speaker 1: I still feel like they have pieces. I feel like
Speaker 1: this is going to be a more competitive game than
Speaker 1: I think Packer fans are really thinking it's going to be.
Speaker 1: It's Sunday Night football, It's Packers Bears. They're gonna bring it.
Speaker 1: But the attrition that has sort of taken its pound
Speaker 1: of flesh here of the Bears, I think you're starting
Speaker 1: to feel it a little bit more because I think
Speaker 1: in some ways now they weren't putting great positions to
Speaker 1: begin with, defensively with some of those turnovers, but they're
Speaker 1: they're just there. Just wasn't a sense of urgency. I
Speaker 1: didn't feel that game. I just didn't feel like the
Speaker 1: Bears thought they could win it, outside of maybe when
Speaker 1: when Montgomery got that rushing touchdown, Arizona comes right back
Speaker 1: and gets down the field quickly, James Conner gets that pass,
Speaker 1: and it kind of felt like that was all she wrote.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to watch. It's it's a fascinating
Speaker 1: to follow how these things go. Because he had all
Speaker 1: this this outside hubbub about you know, Matt Nage and
Speaker 1: his future. There's been a lot of distractions for the Bears,
Speaker 1: and the injuries haven't really helped matters. Yeah, they certainly
Speaker 1: haven't um quickly here West before we go. Um, a
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Speaker 1: tell you what kind of a man Cliff Crystal is.
Speaker 1: I put this on my Instagram, but I only have
Speaker 1: like eight hundred followers on there. This is a little
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Speaker 1: this book well, if you count his entire life that
Speaker 1: has basically been dedicated to Packers. I was going to
Speaker 1: say his his career starting in the in the mid
Speaker 1: early to mid seventies, being a Packers beat reporter, had
Speaker 1: some great hair back then. Looked like that. He's on
Speaker 1: the beat, Cliff. But the thing I love about Cliff,
Speaker 1: so it's been over four years, I think he's actually
Speaker 1: been efforting with this particular book, and all the hours
Speaker 1: and the sacrifices he's made I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 1: When I'm cliffs Age, I'm gonna be on a beach somewhere.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be writing about Packers books. But the
Speaker 1: fact that we were asked to edit like a couple
Speaker 1: of chapters, UM took me a weekend. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you got a couple more than I did. I
Speaker 1: think maybe it took you some time. And we still
Speaker 1: got mentioned in the table of contents page the bibliography,
Speaker 1: if you will. Uh. And Cliff still threw us in there.
Speaker 1: He did all this work and you and I just
Speaker 1: read some words and edit some stuff, and he felt
Speaker 1: compelled to do that. Amazing human being, an amazing book.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to read all the chapters. I got
Speaker 1: to read a couple of them. Um. Just an incredible
Speaker 1: testament to journalism, to to writing, and uh, dedication to
Speaker 1: a craft that I think sometimes can get lost. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: And I've talked to Cliff about it and he's He's
Speaker 1: said so on our website when he's answered fan questions
Speaker 1: and whatnot to that that when this book project came up,
Speaker 1: Mark Murphy told him get the Packers history right like
Speaker 1: this is you know there, And Cliff has talked about
Speaker 1: all the books out there that have the myths and
Speaker 1: the things that haven't been really vetted and explored, and
Speaker 1: romantis and stuff is true. Cliff went through all of it, folks,
Speaker 1: and uh um, and this this truly is the definitive
Speaker 1: history of the first hundred years of Green Bay Packers football.
Speaker 1: So it's it's worth your time and your money. I
Speaker 1: believe it's. It's a beautiful I was down the pro
Speaker 1: shop maybe picked one up already. Uh an incredible presentation.
Speaker 1: I love the way they did the binding, and it's
Speaker 1: it's great. It's it's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to reading it this offseason. All right,
Speaker 1: with that, we'll call it a wrap on this edition
Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our
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Speaker 1: I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in, everybody. We'll see
Speaker 1: you next time.