1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Coming to you from fabulous Las Vegas. The right side 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: is the winning side. The late move is the correct move. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Sports betting capital of the world. We all know when 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: a sharp like me weighs in the lines move, it's 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: a party for your ears. This is the Buffet with 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: Chad and Scooch. I want to buy that guy at buffet. 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: Here we are the Buffet Podcast with Chad and Scooch. 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: I am Shad Millman of the Action Network joining me 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: on the phone from Vegas, representing the Orleans Sports Book 10 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: and all the board gaming books in the state of Nevada, 11 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: the world's bookmaker, according to him, Mr Bob Scucci. Chad, 12 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: how's it going? I am so good man. There's so 13 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: much going on in the world of sports betting right now. Uh. 14 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Later on in the show, Lauren Joffey, one of our 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: Action Network contributors writers personalities. She is spending the day 16 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: in Delaware. Today is is Tuesday. It's the first day 17 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: of betting. Uh. In Delaware. The Governor of Delaware made 18 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: the very first bet. He bet on the Phillies. No surprise, 19 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: given Delaware's proximity to Philadelphia into Pennsylvania. He bet on 20 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: the Phillies. Plus two oh six against the Cubs tonight. UM, 21 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: Lauren Joffey is going to come on the podcast later 22 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: on the show, going to talk about her adventures in 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: Delaware and all the things that she saw. She's going 24 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: to all three sports books in Delaware. Uh, it'll be great. Um, 25 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: don't forget Go rate review and subscribe to our iTunes 26 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: page for the Buffet with Chad and Scooch. Go to 27 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: with the Buffet with Chad and Scooch on iTunes. Follow 28 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: the Buffet Pot at the Buffet Pot on Twitter Scooch. 29 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: One of the things we ask people to do last 30 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: week was make suggestions for the Sports Betting Hall of Fame, 31 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: and we're going to get to that. People made great suggestions. 32 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: They made it on the iTunes page. They gave it 33 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: to his via Twitter. A lot of names sort of 34 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: for the inaugural ballot came through for the first class. 35 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk about that. We're gonna talk about 36 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: that a little bit. Uh. We want to talk about 37 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: the NBA, but first I want to get your take 38 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: on Delaware. Like, this is happening, man, this is really happening. 39 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: When you're waking up today, what are you thinking I'm 40 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: excited about it. I mean, it's to me, it's like 41 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: the first step in like a long staircase that's you know, 42 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: ascending up and uh and and the payoff is going 43 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: to be big and uh. You know, I've been thinking 44 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: about this moment for for many years, when you'd be 45 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: able to take true sports betting in states outside of Nevada, 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: and I just think it's tremendously exciting and just kind 47 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: of can't wait to see to see how it progresses. 48 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: As the self proclaimed world bookmaker? Are you disappointed that 49 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: Delaware opened and they did not call you a little bit? 50 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: I was waiting by the phone. You know, I'm here, 51 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm will offer my support, and I didn't get the call. 52 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: For those who missed the podcast last week, Scooch, in 53 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: what had to be a record turnaround, went from being 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: very humble about not feeling like he needs to do 55 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: anything outside of Vegas to declaring that maybe he should 56 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: be the bookmaker to the world. Well, you got me 57 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: thinking about it. You're like, you know the bookmakers. Listen. 58 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't think I got you thinking about anything. You 59 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: get all thinking about yourself because I didn't say anything 60 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: in those five to ten seconds. You just sort of 61 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: went from very humble Scooch to dr evil Scooch U 62 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: with the flip of a switch. And I'm wondering this 63 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: week if you plotted to, like, shouldn't I be in 64 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: Delaware right now? Shouldn't I be making minds in Delaware? 65 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: The governor be betting me Delaware right now? No? No, Well, 66 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: I wish I wish we had a property in Delaware. 67 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: That'd be nice. I think it would have been really 68 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: exciting to be on the ground floor there. But I 69 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: feel like I'm missing out in that respect. But uh, 70 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: we'll have We'll have our day in the sun. It 71 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: is amazing. It really is amazing that this is actually happening. 72 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: It feels um you know, I'm ensconced in my office 73 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: in New York and your Vegas and we're tracking get 74 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: on Twitter and sort of following the feedback from the 75 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: posts we haven't the folks we have in the ground there. 76 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: But it just also it feels like, maybe because you 77 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: and I are so immersed in this world, it feels like, 78 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: really people are getting that excited to go to a 79 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: sports book. Yeah, I know, I mean for us that 80 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: we've lived it for so many years. And and you know, 81 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: me waking up in every single day for almost thirty years. 82 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: It's just like, h I'm oh, I always marvel at 83 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: someone else's excitement about sports betting because I see it. 84 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: A lot people come into the casino for the first 85 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: time and they get enamored by the boards and all 86 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: the lights, and it's exciting for them, and I'm thinking, Okay, yeah, 87 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: this is you know, sports betting. You know, we've been 88 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: doing it every day, but that's all. It Also is 89 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: why we're seeing this boom in sports betting around the country, 90 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: because so many people are seeing it and experiencing experiencing 91 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: it for the first time. So that's why, you know, 92 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: if you ask me if I feel threatened by it, 93 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: I know because I think it's just part of the 94 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: boom and until the kind of plateaus, we're just gonna 95 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: ride the wave. Um. It's funny people get excited by 96 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: the lights. It's as if it's as if they're three 97 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: look at all the lights. If you you've seen them 98 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: in there, you know what I'm talking about. They're looking 99 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: up on the board and they're just amazed by it. 100 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: It is pretty amazing, Like how people whenever they want 101 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: to sort of symbolize sports betting. They will always say, 102 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: we got to get a big board, a big betting board. 103 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: People love a big betting board like a Christmas tree. Yeah. No, 104 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: the bigger the better, the brighter the better. And uh, 105 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: you know, even at one point I was trying to 106 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: figure out a way through some like computer graphics, like 107 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: every time a line changed, I wanted that, uh, the 108 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: the odds to grow bigger like a big Keno ball, 109 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: like how it just expands throughout the here, you know, 110 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: like eagles minus five and then just kind of go 111 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: back so that everyone can see the the latest line 112 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: change and just kind of kind of add those graphics 113 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: up there. I think it's ideas like that that will 114 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: do one of two things for you. Scoog A might 115 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: get you in the Sports Betting Hall of Fame one day. 116 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: Be people are going to hear about this, and they 117 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: might want to make you bookmaker to the world. That 118 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: could be you know, you never know, So everyone out 119 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: there listening grunelle, I feel like we need some kind 120 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: of music that comes on every time we call Scooch 121 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: bookmaker to the world. We're gonna get that done. We're 122 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: gonna get that done for you, Scooch is gonna be like, 123 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: like your walk up music. I was gonna say, let's 124 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: throw it out there. See what kind of suggestions ever 125 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: everyone has for that. I was at a minor league 126 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: baseball game, uh last weekend in Hertford, Connecticut, you know, 127 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: not too far from where I live. Beautiful stadium out there, amazing, 128 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: like what they did. It took him three years to 129 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: build it, and like for a year it's at idle 130 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: because there was so much corruption in the building of 131 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: the stadium that they basically had to stop and like 132 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: refinance the whole thing. Um, it was classic sort of 133 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: this is why Hartford can't get out of its own way. 134 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: But the stadium now is amazing. It's the Hertford yard Goats, 135 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: and like it's such a great evening to go. One 136 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: of the players their um walk up music was the 137 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: song um, I Am a lost boy. It's like a 138 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: very sort of soft, aodic, sweet song. And I thought 139 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: to myself, does he get like grief in the locker room? 140 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: Because he's got sort of a very sweet kind song 141 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: and everyone else is coming up to like some pretty 142 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: energizing stuff that makes you aunt and I want to 143 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: hit a home run. Yeah, so what do you think? 144 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: I just I just thought of it. I'm actually looking. 145 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: I admired his courage, I was, so I guess different settings. 146 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean, for so, for something like that, I think 147 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: most people would want to get pumped up. I mean, 148 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: especially like when it's started with the relief pictures, you know. 149 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean I could go back many years and to 150 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: the first ones that I ever remember, as far as 151 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: walk up music, and it was something that kind of 152 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: had a meaning to it, you know. So I guess 153 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: I guess a real soft one. I don't know if 154 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: it would really inspire too many people, but if it 155 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: inspires him, hey go for it. That's what I like 156 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: about this world today. You get to own your choices. Yeah, 157 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. People of Delaware made a choice. 158 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: They want sports betting. Good for them. What choices are 159 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: people making with the NBA Finals? Tell me about what 160 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: you're seeing? Where two games in the third game is 161 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: tomorrow night, so a lot of people will be hearing this, 162 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, even after game three. I don't think it 163 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: changes the narrative very much at all. Um, tell me 164 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: about it. Well, I'll tell you last week. If you 165 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: remember I said I thought people were going to come 166 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: in really heavy on the Cavaliers, and you said, I 167 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,119 Speaker 1: think they're going to come in really heavy on the Warriors. 168 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: And it turns out we were both right. We had 169 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: a ton of action on the Cavaliers money line, and 170 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: we had a ton on the Warriors minus the twelve 171 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: and a half minus thirteen as it fluctuated, you know, 172 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: half the point here and there. At one point, we 173 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: were so buried on Cavalier's money on the money line. 174 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: Was getting mad at the guys down in the war room. 175 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: I was throwing him some looks because every time I'd 176 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: go to a meeting, I'd come back and we'd beat 177 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands heavier on the money line. And I'm like, hey, 178 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: when are you gonna take some Warriors money on the 179 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: money line at like minus eight dollars minus nine dollars 180 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: And they're just looking at me, saying, the Cavaliers have 181 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: no chance in this one. Let's just ride this one out. 182 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: So so we had a little battle among the guys 183 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: in the hub during that first game, and then ultimately 184 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: I went with They kind of persuaded me and I said, 185 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: all right, just take all the Cavaliers money you want 186 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: on the money line, and right out of the gate 187 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: in the first quarter, I said, we're in trouble here, 188 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: and I didn't say a word the rest of the game. 189 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: I just shot looks to the guys every time the 190 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: Cavaliers took and then when Steph Carry had a three 191 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: to tie it up at a halftime, I'm like, you know, 192 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: when the Warriors is a thirteen point favorite need a 193 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: three to tie it up at halftime, I said, we're 194 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: in real trouble. So, uh, when I had to leave 195 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: at a couple of points during the game because I 196 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: didn't want to watch anymore, but when it was one 197 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: oh seven, one oh seven, that's I mean, I was 198 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: sweating it because I figured we lost it, especially when 199 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: before the free throw, which I figured he was going 200 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: to make the free throw and the Warriors only would 201 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: have had a couple of seconds to uh to take 202 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: the lead back. So just what an unbelievable ending that ultimately, 203 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: and then a reversal. Then in overtime, I'm actually rooting 204 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: for the Warriors to slow down because now I don't 205 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: want him to cover thirteens. So I mean, so these 206 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: are the giant swings that you have when you're talking 207 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: about a point spread being involved and the different ways 208 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: and that you're rooting in the sports book the entire game. 209 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the Warriors to win, but not by 210 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: more than thirteen. So when they're up by ten and 211 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: they got the ball back, I mean, I didn't think 212 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: they would take a last shot, but you never know, 213 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: they might have. You know how, I know I've done 214 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: a good job with my kids. Hell, I no longer 215 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: have to explain to them what I mean when I 216 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: say I want the Warriors to win. I want, I 217 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: want to I want I want like the Calves, what 218 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: do I want? You don't know what? You've done a 219 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: real good job explaining to your kids. I can see 220 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: I only want the Warriors to win. Well, I got 221 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: confused because I was thinking back at my bets like 222 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: I had. Um, you know, we are now doing a 223 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: show on ESPN Plus called I'll Take that Bet, So 224 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: go subscribe to ESPN Plus dear listeners, um, and you 225 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: can get the Action Network talent uh doing shows a 226 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: few times a week, UM talking about what's happening sort 227 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: of in the betting world and our picks for that 228 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: night and so on. The premier episode, which was last Thursday. 229 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: Um me and Paul Duca, you know, former Catcher and 230 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: and all Star made made four time All Star. We 231 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: were the first two people and Luduca and I did 232 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: a side action bet. Side action is like this fun 233 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: thing we have it the Action Network. Um, go to 234 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: Action Network dot com. But side action, like, we have 235 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: a slack channel that is dedicated only to the action 236 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: that is between everyone in the Action Network. And it 237 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: is honest to god, like I have to start kicking 238 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: people out because they're not doing their work anymore. They're 239 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: only making bets with each other. And um so PAULI 240 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: and I did a side action bet. He was wearing 241 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: like this classic Brooklyn Dodgers peewee rees throwback jacket. I'm like, 242 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: side action bet. I said this on the show. Side 243 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: Action bet the Calves plus seven in the first half, 244 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: and he totally took the Warriors and the whole time, 245 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, I own this bet. So that's why I 246 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: got confused because then the second I wanted the Calves 247 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: in that in that first half. In the second game, 248 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: the second game, I went all in on the Warriors 249 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: minus eleven and a half, which I never do. I 250 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: never bet a favorite that big, But it just felt 251 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: like the spot, right, It just felt like I went 252 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: through I went the other way too, and I said, 253 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: let's make sure we're really high on the Warriors and 254 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: game too. They really should have lost Game one, and 255 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: now if there's going to be a blowout in this series, 256 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely going to be Game two. Yeah, And 257 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: so that's why that's why I got confused, cause I'm like, 258 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: wait a second, how was I describing what I wanted 259 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: to my kids? Maybe I'm not such a great parent 260 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to think back about how it was 261 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: describing my action to my kids. Yeah. Right, it's not 262 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: whether you win or lose. It's important. It's by how much. 263 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. Um, so what do you 264 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: need right now in this series? Uh? Well, for the series, 265 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: we actually need the Warriors to win. To win the series, 266 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they were the they were the favorites most 267 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: of the year, so they're not They weren't long odds 268 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: at any point. And then at the beginning prior to 269 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: Game one at eight to one, everybody was taking a 270 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: shot on the Cavaliers to win the series. I mean 271 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: every fifty dollar bet. It was just looking for the 272 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: long odds on on the Cavalier is a big upset 273 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,359 Speaker 1: hoping for so uh, we need the Warriors there in 274 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: in game. Actually, in the next Game three, I just 275 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: went to four on the game. We were at five. 276 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: We went to four and a half pretty early, and 277 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: then just before we started doing this podcast, I went 278 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: to four on the game because we're buried on the 279 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: Cavaliers so so far right now in this game three, 280 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: both on the money line and taking the points. So 281 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna be Warriors fans again. I figured this is 282 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: a game, I mean, if they're gonna if they're gonna 283 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: win one, if they're going to prevent a sweep, you've 284 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: got to think that it's down to zero going back 285 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: at home. And then, as you know, there's another angle 286 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: that's been going on the last couple of seasons, and 287 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: especially in the playoffs, or particularly in the playoffs, I 288 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: should say, when a team is down to zero and 289 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: they're going back home, the play has been to bet 290 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: them in the first half. And so you're seeing this 291 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: big disparity between the first half line and the game line. 292 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: So the first half line on the Warriors and Kazas 293 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: to pick them and for a game that opened five, 294 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: usually it's a right and around half the game line 295 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: for the first half, but it's not. It's it's a 296 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: pick them, reflecting that trend that the home team is 297 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: particularly going to be competitive in the first half down 298 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: to zero going back at home. Isn't that amazing how 299 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: these trends pop up and sort of become really become 300 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: commonplace amongst a much larger group beyond the professional betting community, 301 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: like that first half bat like, I've only been thinking 302 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: about first half. Like you mentioned, you know, pick tonight 303 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: or pick them for tomorrow night. I'm planning on betting 304 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: the calves that pick tomorrow night, even though there's not 305 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: supposedly the value on them. Right, you would think you'd 306 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: begin at least two points in a game where there 307 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: are four and a half five point underdog. You would 308 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: think that you should be getting a couple of points 309 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: in this one. No one's ever, no one's ever accused 310 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: me of being a value better. You just look for 311 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: the winner, whether this value or not. I play as 312 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: we've said, the right side is the winning side. Yes, 313 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: sir god, we haven't done a scootism or a millionism 314 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: in a while. No, we're just you know, the summer, 315 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: we're getting lazy. Seriously, so true, all right, so you 316 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: need the Warriors to win the series and the rest 317 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: of and the rest of the like whatever happens, Like 318 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: does it matter to you if they win in four? 319 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: Does it matter to you if they win in five? 320 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: Where is your liability? And that? In that respect, Well, 321 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: I'd like to see him stretch it out only from 322 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: a handle and a win perspective. The more games, the 323 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: more action. I mean, once this is over and the 324 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: and the Stanley Cup is over, then we just have 325 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: to kind of fade baseball the rest of the summer, 326 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: which could be a real grind uh no offense. I mean, 327 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: I love baseball, but it's hard to win and so 328 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: uh so these games draw a lot of action. So 329 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: if we can stretch it out just you know, six 330 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: or seven games, that'd be great from the sports book 331 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: point of view, as as long as we don't get 332 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: killed on each of those games. Do you think you're 333 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: going to get a lot of World Cup action? I 334 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: do now. I mean I would have loved it if 335 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: the time was better, meaning that the games were being 336 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: played at a time in Vegas where it's kind of 337 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: more conducive to the betting. Uh, some of these games 338 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: are going to be starting three o'clock in the morning, 339 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: five o'clock in the morning Vegas time. So but but 340 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: the World Cup, the last few that we've had have 341 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: gotten bigger and bigger. And now with the you know, 342 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: the mobile piece of it, the the mobile app, it's 343 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: going to make it a lot easier for people to 344 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: be sitting at home making those bets, making those in 345 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: progress bets. Well, this will be the biggest handle Nevada 346 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: has had on the World Cup. I guarantee it, because 347 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: there's everyone has more operators, have the mobile app now 348 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: and even though the time is kind of weird for 349 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: us here, um, what we'll do a tremendous amount of action. 350 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. We had Action Network dot Com 351 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: I already have a massive amount of content for World Cup. 352 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: Go check it out, figure out who you should bet on, 353 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: figure out where the value is. You do not have 354 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: to be rooting for the US A U S fan 355 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: to get involved in the World Cup and have a 356 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: little fun with it. Go to Action Network dot Com. 357 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: Also go to UH the buffet with chat and Scooch 358 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: page on iTunes and rate review, unsubscribe, resubscribe. Um, do 359 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: all those things to the podcast so we can continue 360 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: to rise up the rankings. Scooch, guess what time it is? 361 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: Is it time to talk about the Hall of Fame? 362 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? Living in the Hall of Fame. Let's 363 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: hear those first bars. So here are some suggestions you 364 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: and I are going to vote. I think we've got 365 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: enough for a first and a second class right now. 366 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: This is a suggestion from a listener. Um Eric Biggio, 367 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: Eric Biggio, b I G g O. You do absolutely 368 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: and him? Well, wow, great? Um his suggestions. Jimmy the Greek, 369 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: I like it. He's a no brainer. I say we 370 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: get five in the first class. Jimmy the Greek. Bob Martin, 371 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: also no brainer. Lefty Rosenthal, Yeah, also a no brainer. Um, 372 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: Ron Saco, I don't know who Ron Sacco is. I 373 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: have to confess I'm not familiar. If you don't know 374 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: him and I don't know him, he's not in the 375 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: first ballot, might not he might not even be in 376 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: the second class. Um. Bob Vogaris, I said, yes, you 377 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: don't know bab Garris who Scooch say again, Harla Bob 378 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: Haral is like Haralabos Harala Bos, like the most famous 379 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: NBA better in history. Does he have a pseudonym? Bob 380 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: Vogaris gonna live in Vegas? Like he was a guy 381 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: who started making bank on like NBA halftimes and totals 382 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: years ago, so much so that you guys had to 383 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: change your formula. Well, I know I know him, not 384 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: his name. I know the people that were betting on 385 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: his behalf. All right, well, he's getting in even though 386 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: you don't know him. I'm going to send you a 387 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: story that we did about him back when I was 388 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: at ESPN the magazine. Um, Zach Clark, who's that Clark? 389 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought you were going to throw 390 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: another one at me. Allan Boston, I like that. I 391 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: feel like Boston might be the second class. I've got 392 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: an idea for the second class. Um uh, Alan, go ahead. 393 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you don't think Billy Walters should 394 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: be in the first class, Dude, I haven't gotten there yet. Oh, 395 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: is there there's more? I thought you said he had 396 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: five you know, I think there should be five in 397 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: the first class. Okay, all right, think Allen Dakinson. Okay, 398 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: Billy Walters Man Binker, Sam Brown. These were from Eric 399 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Sam Brown. I like Sam Brown. Who's brown? Sam Brown 400 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: was one of the originals from the sixties, seventies, eighties, 401 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: even even going into the nineties. He he was like 402 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: and he he passed away just before we got into 403 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: the mobile betting. But when when we went to the pagers, uh, 404 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: he would bet from home using a pager system and 405 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: because he couldn't make it into the casino anymore. But 406 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: he was a he was a mover. I mean when 407 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: he bet lines moved. Yeah, I like that, all right. 408 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: I think we got some consensus on and things here. 409 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: But hold on Phil Nicholson. Oh that that's a little dangerous. 410 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't know about that one. It's dangerous to put 411 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: Phil Nicholson in a in a fake hall. It same 412 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: as controversy. It's controversial. Is it dangerous to say his 413 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: name out loud? Is he like Volde Wort? I don't understand, Like, well, 414 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: I just don't know that the reason firsthand. I mean, 415 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: I hear he's an epic gamblers are That's all you 416 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: need to know. So all we're doing now is just 417 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: putting epic gamblers in or just It's well known that 418 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: he likes to bet on sports. We've written stories about 419 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: how much he likes to bet on sports. I don't 420 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: think you know we're gonna libel somebody by saying PHILM. 421 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: Nicholson likes to bet on sports. He should so he 422 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: should be in the Sports Betting Hall of Fame. Yeah, 423 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: I think so. I'd vote for him if it was 424 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: a secret ballot about that. Oh my god, you're the 425 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: fucking worst, fucking suit. Here's another one for you, Pete Rose. 426 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: Well you've already went down that road with Phil Nicholson 427 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: and why not? How about how about Arnold Rothstein and 428 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: in the nineteen Oh my god, you are seriously comparing 429 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: like Bill Nicholson to Arnold Rothstein? And when did you 430 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: become like so corporate and clean like Phil Nicholson is 431 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: never been busted for anything, well kind of was busted. 432 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: Everybody got out, all right, hold on, we're going back 433 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: to that. P Rose is in. It's a no brainer. 434 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: Here's the last entry that that Grennell sent me. Grnell 435 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: sent me a bunch of the best entries. Uh, Joe 436 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: Lupo should be a first ballot Hall of Famer. Can 437 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: make an Alan also Wow. I love that. Uh, Alan, 438 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: You can make an argument for Alan Boston, although he 439 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: sounds like too much of a curmudgeon to show up 440 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: to the ceremony. Yeah, Alan Boston give an epic Sports 441 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: Betting Hall of Fame speech. It would it would, it 442 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: might be might be the longest, it would be long 443 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: for and it had wards like perspicacious. He'd be mad 444 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: if he was not a first ballot or though you 445 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: might not show up if he's not a first ballot. 446 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: Should get him on talk about this if he returned. 447 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: I tried to get him on the podcast during March 448 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: Madness and like I texted him, He's like And a 449 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: week later he's like, I don't do text just call me. 450 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: And I immediately texted him back and like, I said, 451 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: well just come on today. Never heard back. Wow, I 452 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: know you're holding your phone. I just texted you, right, 453 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: I know. Uh, here's my choices. I think we can 454 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: go big in the first class and then the second 455 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: class is a little smaller. But here's my choices. Jimmy 456 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: the Greek, Bob Martin, Lefty Rosenthal, Uh, Billy Walters, Sam Brown, 457 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: that is my first class. I think you would not 458 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: have a problem with anybody if if releasing that first class, 459 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: what about Lem Banker? I'm on the close. So when 460 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: you were talking Sam Brown and Lenn Banker, they're like 461 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: one and one. Lamb was probably a little bit more 462 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: well known, but that was by design. I mean, he 463 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: wanted to be out there. He wanted people to know 464 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: his name, Sam Brown did. He didn't care if anyone 465 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: knew his name. He was all about making bets and 466 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: making money, all right. Then I am going with Lem 467 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: Banker too. So it's the sixth Jimmy the Greek, Bob Martin, 468 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: Lefty Rosenthal. Um, by the way, we should explain, Like 469 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy the Greek, obviously everybody knows um, Bob Martin one 470 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: of the original bookmakers. Like he was making lines as 471 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: a bookmaker in Minneapolis that everybody in the country was following. 472 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: Then he moved to Vegas and like was one of 473 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: the original bookmakers and sort of a small shop in 474 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: Vegas and and really set the tone for what Vegas 475 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: became as a as a epicenter for sports betting. Um, 476 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: Lefty Rosenthal, obviously is that his name or is that 477 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: the name in the movie. No, it's Frank. Frank Rosenthal's 478 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: name Banker. So explain to Frank Rosenthal was because people 479 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: will get a kick out of this. You've got lineage there. Yeah, 480 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: So he was. He was a legendary Chicago UH kind 481 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: of bookmaker, oddsmaker, sports gambler that had connections to a 482 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: lot of the Chicago Mob. So they sent him to 483 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: Vegas basically the UH to help, you know, set up 484 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: these these sports books that Chica. The Startus Hotel had 485 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: a kind of an affiliation to the Chicago Mob as well, 486 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: so they sent him out there to essentially run the 487 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: whole property and look out for their interests back there. UH. 488 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: And then he couldn't get gaming license, so he had 489 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: to operate under you know, the title of entertainment director 490 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: and food and beverage director and all these things. But 491 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: he was, he was the guy. He ran the Startus 492 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: for many years, and it was the Startus was one 493 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: of the first casinos to actually have a racing sports 494 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: book in the property. And I think it was back 495 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: in four and it was by far the biggest and 496 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: the best for probably I don't know, thirty years, at 497 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: least twenty five years until someone wrote a book about 498 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: it and sort of ended all that. Do you really 499 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: did the death of our Las Vegas. Yeah, but but 500 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: ultimately I ended up running that that sports book. So 501 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: there is a there is a lineage there, and you 502 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: know he did have because I've seen it. There was 503 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 1: a tunnel that went from the executive office up on 504 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: the second floor of the Stardust, and the tunnel went 505 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: there was a staircase that went downstairs underneath the property 506 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: and had an entrance out onto the street, out onto 507 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: the strip. And the logic behind that was that in 508 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: case he got rated or maybe another mob Bob group 509 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: was going to come after him, he could make a 510 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: quick getaway. But we are that whole thing was filled 511 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: up with cement very early on, right after he left. 512 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that's great. I love the idea of him 513 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: like he's running under the tunnel and like everyone's coming 514 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: in and he's running underneath them in the opposite direction. 515 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: It just hops into the street. Some caddie pulls up 516 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: and he's gone. That's about it. I mean, it's stuff 517 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: you see in kind of movies, but that's really what 518 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: what they did. I mean, it was kind of a 519 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: very dangerous world they lived and back then, and you know, 520 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: there was a lot of treachery going on, and you 521 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: didn't know who was coming at you and when, so 522 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: they had those kind of safeguards. Well. Also just it 523 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: was a movie like this was the guy that was 524 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: portrayed by Robert de Niro in the movie Casino exactly, 525 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: so uh and I think his name was like Ace something, 526 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: Ace Rothstein was his name was. And they actually filmed that. 527 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: So I was at the Stardust when they were filming 528 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: that at the Riviera Hotel, which was right across the 529 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: street from the Stardust, so you know, from time to 530 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: time they were shooting there. For almost a month, I 531 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: just walk across the street watching film a scene, come back, 532 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: come back to work. And it was ironic that they 533 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: were using the Riviera across the street to replicate what 534 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: was the Stardust, although they were using another assumed name 535 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: in the movie as well. When I was working on 536 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: the odds Um, the book that you wrote about sports 537 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: bedders and the death of their Las Vegas through the 538 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: eyes of the Startus bookmakers, Um, I would always stay 539 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: at the start Dust, like I'd be there for like 540 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: ten nights in a row. My last trip um was 541 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: during the n C Double a tournament in two thousand 542 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: and I'm at the startust my last night, I stayed 543 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: up all night. I just like I couldn't sleep. I 544 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: was a nervous wreck. Like I was done reporting the book. 545 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: I had to go figure out what the funk I 546 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: was gonna write, like all this kind of stuff and 547 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: m and I stayed up all night reading Casino. Worst 548 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: mistake I could have made, because I'm reading this book 549 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: like I will never write anything this good about like this, 550 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: about this culture, and I'm like, what am I going 551 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: to do? I that was I did not sleep for 552 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: like two days. I could imagine that. That's like, yeah, 553 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: I can't even make an analogy, but uh, I mean 554 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: talk about ruining your confidence. Let me just start with 555 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: uh one of the best books ever written and in uh, 556 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: that'll that'll give you some drive to put something together. Huh. Well, 557 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: when you're making the Hall of Fame, you want to 558 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. You know what I'm saying. 559 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: That's true when I read that. You know, there was 560 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: some stuff I was reading in Casino. I read it too. 561 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: I think after the movie came out. I saw the 562 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,239 Speaker 1: movie first, but there was a lot of people in 563 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: that book that I actually knew. So I was so 564 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: as I'm reading it and they're talking about people that 565 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: I've met and know pretty well, it was kind of 566 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: like a little bit of a jarring effect for me, 567 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, Hey, that's awesome. I mean, I 568 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: mean a couple of odds makers that that Lefty knew 569 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: real well that I had still used as as some 570 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: of our odds makers at the start US back in 571 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: the mid nineties. Uh, you know, so it's really kind 572 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: of cool. That is awesome. Alright, So I think we 573 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: have our first class. I'm not going to announce our 574 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: second class yet. Um, I think we have our first class. 575 00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: Were to um continue Jimmy the Greek, Bob Martin, Lefty Rosenthal, Um, 576 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: Billy Walters, Lem Banker, Sam Brown. So at the end, 577 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: Billy Walters, Lem Baker, Sam Brown almost like three legendary 578 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: betters who represent three entirely different generations. Like Sam Brown, 579 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: as you said, came on that everything from the beginning 580 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: of time, didn't want anyone to know who he is. Um. 581 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: Then you move into Lem Baker, who was a big 582 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: better had a lot of great strategies, but wanted people 583 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: to know who he was. Then you get into Billy, 584 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: who is like the most famous better in the history 585 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: of the world, from when it comes to sports, um 586 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: and like that's a nice little narrative there, from you know, 587 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: the beginning of time to current day. Absolutely, and then 588 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: you know Lefty, who you know obviously he needs to 589 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: know no more kind of introductions. I think we nailed 590 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: it there. I think we got a set. When we 591 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: got a second class Bruin like a good second class, 592 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: said about that next week. All right, all right, folks, listen. 593 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: If you disagree with our first class, if you have 594 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: more suggestions for the second class, go to the buffet 595 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: iTunes page. Put it in the reviews. We will read them. 596 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: Obviously we did because we talked about a couple of 597 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: them here. Um rate review, unsubscribe, re subscribe. Be a 598 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: friend of the podcast. Scooch thanks for coming on, man, 599 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Hey, Chat, thanks for having me on 600 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: the Scooch and Chat show. I was gonna say, thanks 601 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: for coming on your own podcast. Yeah, don't forget. Coming 602 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: up next, coming up with Lex North. Lauren Joffe is 603 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: uh going to file a report from her day in 604 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: Delaware traversing the postage stamp of a state that nobody 605 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: talks about except for when they're sports betting. Uh, so 606 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: she can tell us what it was like there next 607 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: up on the buffet reporting from Delaware. I think I'm 608 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: assuming because I know she's hung hover and so she 609 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't have left Delaware in a particular state. Lauren Joffey, 610 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: who was on the scene yesterday when Delaware h allowed 611 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: sports betting for the first time. We're now spelling sharp 612 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: c A r any y because John Carney, the governor 613 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: of Delaware, chose the Phillies a plus two hundred to 614 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: win last night. That was the first bet made in Delaware, 615 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: and he was on it. Joffy, Yeah, everything about Delaware. 616 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: Where are you well, I am sitting in the hotel. Wow, 617 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: we put you up in a hotel for this, I know, right, 618 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean there was I mean I was I was 619 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: going to hit all three because you know, they didn't 620 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: actually have a chance to go to the third one. Um, 621 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: But but I made it to the two. I mean 622 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: there sure, as small as Delaware is, things aren't exactly 623 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: right there, so you know, it was a bit of 624 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: a bit of a drive. Um. But I don't know, 625 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a race track, which is pretty cool. No, 626 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm serious. I've never seen and I've never really seen 627 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: a NASCAR track, so but that's what I have. That's 628 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: my view. Um, you must be in Dover. Yes, I 629 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: am in Dover. This was the second stop. Um, so 630 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: I missed the governor who was I guess he was here, 631 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: Um at this casino when he put his bed in. Um. 632 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: I was at the the other, the other one, the 633 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: in Wilmington's um for the opening, and um, it was 634 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, it was exciting. They were doing the T 635 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: minus ten, T minus five, you know, counting it down 636 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: until the best until it opened. Um. I think there 637 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: was more media there than there were bettors. Um. And 638 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: there was there was a line which less for about 639 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: half an hour and then that was kind of it. Um, 640 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: but you know, it was exciting. So there were more 641 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: media than betters described to me. Describe to me what 642 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: the betters look like. Um, well, there was there was 643 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: your there weren't a lot of there were some young people. Um, 644 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: there were a lot of um, you know, you know 645 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: who's in who's in a casino and you know Tuesday 646 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: morning in Delaware, I mean that was there were a 647 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: lot of those people. I think they were in there 648 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: for the excitement. I don't necessarily think they were betting 649 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: in anything. Um, but I mean there were people that 650 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: were betting. Somebody asked me. He kind of came by with, so, 651 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: what do you think of the Cleveland game? And you know, 652 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: it's like, this is your first time betting. I mean, 653 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: you know people no one really knew. I don't think 654 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: what to expect. Um. And there's people going around asking 655 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: anyone if they were first time better you know that 656 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: they would help him out. Um. It was you know, 657 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: it was interesting. So so we'll get to the fact 658 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: you're hungover. Yeah, but but what was the first bet 659 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: you made? Um? I actually I didn't bet to like 660 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: him down here, um because this only because I didn't 661 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: want to have to make a bet and have to 662 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: go back there and cash it. UM. So I bet 663 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I've did a bunch and I'm a green 664 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: dut you now. I bet the under in the Philly 665 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: Chicago game. UM. I bet the dream money line thanks 666 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: to that labs, UM, and it was UM and the 667 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: met under. You bet the w n B A Sorry 668 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: sorry but yeah, I bet w Yeah. I just want 669 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: to be clear like people people will be thinking, like, wait, 670 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: what what Bet involved himlaj one that she was able 671 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: to to sort of reverse time and go back in 672 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: that finals using bet labs. No, no, okay, right, and 673 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: mind you like, I didn't see w n B at 674 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: the at the at the other just you know, so 675 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: when I got here and I sawed it on board, 676 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: I was very excited. Um, I said. When I went 677 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: to the counter and I said, you know, I'd like 678 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: the dream money line, and he looked at me and 679 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: he kind of looked, you know, like you know what 680 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: I was talking about, like, oh, w n B A. 681 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: And he said, I don't really follow w n B 682 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: A and I was like, yeah, I need to do. 683 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: I but it don't you know what, got a really 684 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: aggressive slack channel for the w n B A. And 685 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna follow whatever they're doing. And I'm 686 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: thinking I'm gonna make some money and look lo and behold, 687 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: Lauren Joffy found Green Dot City. I did it was 688 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: it was fantastic. The problem with at Least last night 689 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: is the book closed at ten, so I had to 690 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: stay here technically because I couldn't have you know, I 691 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: could have sent it in. I guess but I couldn't 692 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: have cashed it in last night. Well that's like, why 693 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: would you close the sports book before something closed? They 694 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: can't cash your bet. Yeah, I don't know. The guy, 695 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: I mean, like I kind of says like, yeah, we're 696 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: doing this for the first you know, for the first 697 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: little bit, and I don't know what little bit means. Um. 698 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: I mean, the bar in there culls it eleven. So 699 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: it's not quite it's not quite the same as as Vegas's. 700 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: You know, I'll say that. You mean, when you're in 701 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: Delaware Wilmington's at the race track. It's just not the 702 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: same as when you're like at the Bellaggio. I keep 703 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: it that. I know I was. It was kind of shocking. 704 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 1: Um no, but really yeah, no, I mean, and there's 705 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: no real place in the book to watch the games. Um. 706 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: They had you know, the big TVs up there, but 707 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: it was all horse racing, even though there was you know, 708 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: a ton of mlbon um. So you know, it wasn't 709 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't the greatest place to watch the games either, 710 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: But you know that's I guess they'll figure it out. 711 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: Maybe I did see uh some of the recaps on 712 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: sports Center last night and I was disappointed that they 713 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: had to design it and make it look so much 714 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: like a typical sports book. Yeah. Yeah, it's literally I mean, 715 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 1: like you know, they have a little the desks set 716 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: up with the terminal, you know, the TVs. Um. I 717 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: mean it really was. It didn't It wasn't modern at all. Um. 718 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean, and I guess it's the same book they've 719 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: been using just for the horse racing, right they didn't 720 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: build the new book. Um. But yeah, I mean I guess, 721 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: I mean maybe they just it was so if you 722 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to I mean, I don't know. Um, 723 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: it could be the happening place to watch. Honestly, it 724 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,959 Speaker 1: could be. Like in all seriousness, it's a tiny little 725 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: state and it's close enough to a lot of things 726 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: that people would go there and spend a weekend around 727 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: big events. It's like, you don't want to travel all 728 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: the way to Vegas. They have a huge opportunity here 729 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: to carve out a piece of the market for that 730 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: filly area for Baltimore. Um, for people who like if 731 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 1: you want to spend two hours getting out of town 732 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: and you do that for a day and then you 733 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: go to the beach in Delaware, like they can nail this. 734 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: They really could, and I mean because you know, it's 735 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: it's a nice to you know, Um, it's it's it's 736 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: relatively I mean it's not big, but it's you know, 737 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: it's not tiny at all. Um. But yeah, they could 738 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: really honestly, they could really have an amazing opportunity here. Um, 739 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: and maybe they will. Maybe they wanted to see how 740 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 1: things were gonna go. I mean I don't know, Um, 741 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: but yeah, the book it's just not it's it's not 742 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: somewhere you go to. I mean watching a game and 743 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: there is just not it's just not what you just 744 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean you can, I guess, but it's it's you know, 745 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: TV doesn't face the bar, so you know, it's but 746 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: it could be. There's there's you know it could be 747 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know football season. Do you 748 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: think by football season it will be better? I mean 749 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: I would hope so, But I mean I'm trying to think. 750 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: I mean, they would have to really redesign the book. 751 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: There's it's not big enough really, Um. You have to 752 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: take out all the little desks, um, which they could do, um, 753 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: but I mean they could have to do a lot 754 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: of resigning. Um. But you know, it really could be 755 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: very fun place. And I mean it's kind of it's 756 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 1: in the middle of Delaware, so yeah, like you said, 757 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: like I came in from d C. There's a lot 758 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: of you know, there's people I met people last night. 759 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: There were from from Philly. Um, there's even a cope 760 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: people from New Jersey. So you know it's you skip 761 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 1: the Atlantic city to come down here. Um, just for 762 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 1: the gambling. So you know it could be it could 763 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: be huge. It's gotta you know, figure it out. So 764 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: let me transition here for a second. Uh, why did 765 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: you get so drunk last night? I mean, don't I 766 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily get drunk. I just was drinking drinking drinks 767 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna go ahead and assume we're not the 768 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: highest quality alcohol. So I just you know, the headache 769 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: hit me this morning. Here's it's like when last we 770 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: left Lauren dropping on the podcast. Um, you were a 771 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: hate betting to general it living with your parents, who 772 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 1: was convincing herself. Uh, she was very funny while while 773 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: alone in your bedroom. So how are things progressing? Um? 774 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: And I think I think let me just add since 775 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 1: then we can add, um, you've become addicted to both 776 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: bet Labs and the side Action channel in Slack at 777 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: the Action Network, and I might add the general show 778 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: is Slack at the Action Network. Yes, I'm waiting to 779 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: get blacklisted from Slack. Um they're gonna kick me out soon. 780 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 1: I serious. I'm like this is like my own person, 781 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 1: a little Twitter inside inside Slack. Um. Yeah, that labs. 782 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm totally completely obsessed with. Um, it's keep me up 783 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: at night. Um progressing. I mean, I'm in Delaware, So 784 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: there you go. That's true. You left the house. I did. 785 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: I left the house. Um, came all the way to Delaware. Um. 786 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: You know. Now we're making moves at you know, at 787 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: the Jockey House. Lauren's going places. Um, she's just not 788 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: a shware I go places. So you known't mean explain 789 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: to me what that means. I means I have to. 790 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: It means I have to pull the trigger on a 791 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: place to move that. That's what that really means. I 792 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: just can't feel like me make up my mind. It's 793 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: it's it's that honestly keeps me at the night. I 794 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: just can't make up my mind. I'm very indecisive. So 795 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: what were the choices again? Chicago l or l A 796 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 1: possibly New York. I'll throw that in there. But those 797 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: three places, um, for lots of reasons. LA would be 798 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: the easiest, just because all my us is there. Yeah, um, 799 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: Chicago because I've always wanted to not live I mean 800 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 1: I've lived in l A all my life for the 801 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: most part, so I kind of wanted to do. I 802 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: want to I want to have a winter, like a 803 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: real winter. Um, and I've been told Chicago has those. 804 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: So it's it's the rumor around town. It is the 805 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: rumor around town. I want to know what it feels 806 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: like to be miserably holed up in my house. It's 807 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 1: it's going so bad. That's to me sounds kind of amazing. 808 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. As a Chicago in and 809 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 1: then someone who has spent his entire adult life living 810 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: on East Coast, those days when like you know it's 811 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: gonna be you're gonna be snow bound, are really the best, 812 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 1: Like you sort of just you you you hear the 813 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: apocalyptic storm is coming in. You're watching your local weather guy. 814 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: They're getting all amped like they're going on seven, like 815 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: it's a hostage crisis, and they're coming in like they're unshaven, 816 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 1: and their ties are undone live for this moment and 817 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: like you are getting up to the meeting radar on 818 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: where the storm is. You are like schools are closing 819 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: and you are like there's no water on the shelves 820 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: at the grocery store. You are hunkering down. Those are 821 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: the They are amazing. I love those days. There is 822 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: nothing more disappointing when like it starts and it's nothing 823 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: and like it's It's the most anticlimactic thing in the world. 824 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: It's so upsetting because like you've sort of mentally got 825 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: yourself in a place where I'm not leaving the house. 826 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a little bit of work and I'm 827 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: gonna say I'm working from home, but really I'm just 828 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: screwing around all day and all of a sudden, like 829 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: you have no excuse not to get out. Um, it's amazing. 830 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Here's the thing about that. That 831 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: is that is a feeling that is fleeting. It lasts 832 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 1: for maybe you know, two hours, and then you're like, 833 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: fucking A, I gotta get out of this crap. I 834 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: gotta find someone to dig out of this crap. I'm 835 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: going to be cold and uncomfortable for six months find 836 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 1: a snow vacation. I mean, mind you, I mean it's 837 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: snowed since since I've been here, it has snowed. I mean, 838 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: and you know, I remember I took a picture of 839 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: my car and I was like, oh my god, there's 840 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: no on it. And you know, I've won laughed at 841 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: me and they're like, no, that's like a dusting. And 842 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: then it's like really snowed. Um. And really we couldn't 843 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: get out of like the driveway, which didn't really bother 844 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 1: me since I wasn't going anywhere, um um. But but 845 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: I loved it. There was I mean, there wasn't really 846 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: a downside. It was pretty and the dogs loved the 847 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: play in it. And you know, I had the excuse 848 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: this time. I had the excuse from not going out anywhere, 849 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: which was really the best. The best thing. You know, 850 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: sunny when you're in l A, you have no excuse. 851 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: You know, sunny outside everyone since why don't you go outside? 852 00:48:55,040 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah. One of my kids or one 853 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 1: of my kids has a T shirt that says, uh, 854 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: I've been outside. I didn't like the graphics. That is 855 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: kind of a hilarious shirt. Um that's his perspective life outside. Yes, 856 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 1: that's my my nephew as well, same exact thing. She's 857 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: not playing his oculus or playing on or walking YouTube videos, 858 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: then I don't know what he's doing. I would be 859 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: in favor. I'm in favor of you moving to New York. Well, 860 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. Um, I'm going to come up there, 861 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: and I have been saying that forever. Um, yeah, but 862 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna come up here. You're the one who was 863 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,280 Speaker 1: like when we had our big Action Network content summit 864 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: and there was no mistaking what day it was, Like 865 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: it was so no, I swear it was so on 866 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: the on ap and like Scott like, I'm like, where's 867 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: Joffe And Scott's like, oh yeah, she thought it was 868 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 1: the twenty six. I swear to you, I swear I 869 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: thought it was. I'm not even lying about that. I 870 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: swear I did. And it just yeah, I know I was. 871 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: I was all hyped up to that very sad I 872 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: missed it. I'll get the next one. Hopefully we'll do 873 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: another one before football season. Speaking of football season, UM, 874 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 1: we'll also get you back down to Delaware, which is 875 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: your new favorite place, so you can report on whether 876 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 1: or not they have improved their offerings before football season. Yeah, absolutely, 877 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: um yeah, because right now, all all you can really 878 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: do is is, you know, they don't have any anything 879 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: other than you know, Baseball, Ah, super Bowl and that's 880 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: about it. Um. So yeah, I imagine they'll they'll step 881 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: it up. I think if I'm not mistaken, it's there. 882 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: It's all part of William Hill um so. I And 883 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: they might have mobile bedding soon as well. So you know, 884 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: things are things could happen. They just gotta you know, 885 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: step it up. Well, listen, I'm looking forward to your report. Uh. 886 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: You know we're going to post on Action Network dot com. Uh, 887 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure it will be full of hilarity and no pressure. 888 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you. I haven't seen you in slack 889 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,959 Speaker 1: all morning, so I'm assuming like you're you're writing away 890 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: like I can't wait to see it. That's what I've 891 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,839 Speaker 1: been doing, or you're just in recovery. A little bit 892 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,359 Speaker 1: of both, a little bit of both. Um, but yes, 893 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm I am writing, so yes, that will be I'm 894 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 1: gonna do that before I get out of here. So 895 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: um that's the plan, all right, Jeffy, thank you for 896 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 1: taking time out from the deadline pressure I'm putting on 897 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: you to come and give us a report. You're very welcome. 898 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad you survived. Thank you so much. I'm glad 899 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: I did too. All Right, we'll talk to you later. Okay, 900 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: it never