1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and my Heart 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Radio podcast. Hello, my little Peanuts, it's me your host, 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Lance Bass. This is Frosted Tips with Me and my 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: hobby Turkey Turchi. Hello, and my mommy's here right now him. Hello, everybody. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: We are in Mississippi. Um and it works. I came 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: here because my my nephews in this group called Brio, 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: which is the big show choir in Brandon, Mississippi. Now, 8 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: if you know me, you know I come from the 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: choquar world. So I'm a proud, proud uncle. I came 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: from Attache, the number one choquar in the world, undisputed. Well, 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: now Brio, this group of Brandon and just the last 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: couple of years, have become a big group and their 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: competition my old groups. They're coming for you. And I 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: feel like I'm cheating a little bit because I was 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: at the Brio thing I introduced the group. You know, 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: my loyalties always with Outeche, but I got some loyalty 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: to Brio now because it's my family. Yeah. So it 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: was a great I mean, if you don't know show 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: choir and a lot of people think of it as glee. 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: It angry, it is. It's way bigger vocal adrenaline. It's 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: like the Olympics of singing and dancing. Really, these teenagers, 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: how they come together and do this, it's nuts. It's 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: really surprised. I remember when I first went to my 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: first show choir competition. It was like, I don't know, 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: twelve years ago, maybe here in La and I was 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: just like, this is what a show quir It blew 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: me away and I was there for hours. It was 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: like a six hour competent. It's this subculture that no 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: one really has seen. It's like it's crazy. It's like 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: watching a bunch of Broadway musicals in a row, like 31 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: over and over again. It looked with dance moms mixed 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: with dance moms, yes, lots of them. And speaking of moms, 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: So when we moved to Clinton, you know, there was 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: We didn't really do music except in church when we 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: were from but when we moved to Clinton, you know, 36 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: it was all about attache. Mom. When I joined show car, 37 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: did you know what that was or like, did you 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: expect it to be that professional? Well, when we first 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: moved there, we actually went to one of their performances 40 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: and I had never seen anything like that. It was 41 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: just amazing. I mean I was just stunned. So when 42 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: you said you wanted to try out, I was excited 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: because I knew it was a great thing. Well I 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: knew I wasn't gonna be playing football, so show car 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: was definitely at But congratulations, brio, I've had an incredible year. 46 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: So there's this this kind of new trend going around 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: where people describe what they do for a job and 48 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: kind of the worst way possible in funny ways. So 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: I'm going to describe a job, and I want to 50 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: see if y'all can figure out what this profession is. 51 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: All right, So here we go. I wait for people 52 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: to be shot and then I cut them. What profession 53 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: is at? Oh that's a physician, a surgeon, surgeon, I 54 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 1: mean it could be in a way. Yeah, they're anesthesia 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: and then I cut them. Yeah, okay, I get that 56 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: that works, But in this one, it was a video editor. Oh, 57 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: wait for people to be shot and then I cut them. Okay, yeah, 58 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: all right, here's your last one out there. All right. 59 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: I make hot things cold and wet. I make hot 60 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: things cold and wet. Mom, what do you think that is? 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a job. Peo will make things wet? 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Who puts out fires? Firefighter? Yes, firefighter make hot things 63 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: cold and wet. So those are fun. So out there, 64 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: DMUs your job in the most vague way, because I 65 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: want to read some more of these in the future. 66 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: So DM must at at frosted tips and give us 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: your job description and I want to see if people 68 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: can guess it on the show. All right. Uh oh, 69 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: by the way, you know, speaking of like kids, what 70 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: is our generation or kids generation going to be called? 71 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: We're at gen Z? Now do we start over with 72 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: gen A? Does it? Does it go back to the 73 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: beginning of the alphabet? Skipped? Why? Because that was Are 74 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: you a Jena? You're a Jena? Uh? But I'm interested 75 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: if there's already a name set up for them or 76 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: do you have to kind of live with this generation 77 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: before you kind of name them for them? Yeah? You 78 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: know generation stupid? I don't know like I don't if 79 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: you know the generation name of our kids? D m us, 80 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: please across the tips. We get all of our information 81 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: from you guys. Thank you very much. All right, and 82 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: speaking of information, you sure told us you wanted to 83 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: hear from this guess that's coming up. We got the 84 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: man the myth a legend. Mister Jordan Night, that's right 85 00:04:48,920 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: coming up right after this, please, welcome to the show. 86 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Nathaniel Marcel the Selle Knight is an American singer, songwriter, 87 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: an actor lead vocalist of the band New Kids on 88 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: the Block, which rose to fame in the late eighties nineties. 89 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: After New Kids on the Block split in ninety four, 90 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: he lost a solo career. The band reunited in two 91 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: thousand and seven. They have been releasing music ever since. 92 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: Jordan Knight, Welcome to Frosted Taps. Oh, hey, be here, man, 93 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: how much of that was wrong? By the way, I 94 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: would you said an actor? I don't know if I'm 95 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: an actor? You've acted before? You have some credits by man? 96 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: I guess so here and there like uh, I guess 97 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: even being in videos is kind of ba is it is? Okay? 98 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: Right off the bat, you know within sync? We have 99 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: a group text? Right, do y'all have a group text 100 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: that y'all do? Yeah? Okay, it was just I was 101 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: just on it. Yeah, okay, text them right now. I 102 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: want I want to who do you think would be 103 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: the first to text you back? Out of all the 104 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: eyes Donnie, Okay, text right now. I want to see 105 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: if Donnie's the one and do something like obscure, be 106 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: like weird, like what the hell is something wrong? Jordan? 107 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: Who'd be the first text back? Um? God, my group 108 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: is just weird. It's never the same person that texts 109 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: back first. True. Yeah, i'd probably. I'm just gonna say, 110 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm on a podcast with you right now, and when 111 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: we have bets on who is going to I don't 112 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: want to do a bet because then they're all going 113 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: to scramble. I just want to see who's gonna just 114 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: say have a fun time. Tell him? I say, hello, No, 115 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm waiting. Okay, all right, you let us know who does. Okay, 116 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: so let's get into this, Jordan, all right, new kids 117 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: on the block. I mean, take us back to the beginning, 118 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: because we had your brother on and he's like, I 119 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: don't remember anything from the early days. And I get 120 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 1: that because so many it's just my brain doesn't hold 121 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: a lot of the memories anymore. But I have a 122 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: feeling that you you'll know more. So tell us how 123 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: did the group get together? Um? And I gotta I 124 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: gotta know how your family felt about that, you know, 125 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: to their sons, you know, going off to do something 126 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: this big at such an early age. That couldn't have 127 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: been easy. But how did this all start? Um? I'd 128 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: say my my family was really cool with it because 129 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: it was when we first started, it was very local, 130 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: so they were able to go to like the talent 131 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: shows and stuff like that, and they knew the other families, um, 132 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: because we all went to elementary school together and stuff 133 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: like that, so everybody knew each other, so everyone was cool. 134 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't like I was going to some me and 135 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: John were going to some distant land to pursue a dream, 136 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: you know. It was it was a local thing. Um, 137 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: how did it start? It started with um, Maury Starr 138 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: just being in Boston, our producer and uh he had 139 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: he produced new additions and they came out and they had, 140 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, big hits. And he was from the next 141 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: town over, Roxbury. Were from Dorchester. Joe can't Joe joined 142 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: the group a little later and he was in a 143 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: close neighborhood as well. Um but um, I guess somebody's 144 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: just texted who is it? Who is it? We should 145 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: have bet Joe Mac that's Joe? Is that? No? Joe 146 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: is using not the first one. He's close maybe a 147 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: close second though, he said, I saw that I'm gonna 148 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: listen to that one Miley Faith. Oh nice, Well we'll 149 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: have him on eventually. I'm you know, I spread out 150 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: the groups so that you know, we kind of get you. 151 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, every two months, I get a new member 152 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: of New Kids, which is yeah, no, that's that's a 153 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: that's a good tactics. And I love it because since 154 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: we started the show a couple of months ago, um, 155 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been so much fun and the fandom's 156 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: all coming together, like the New Kids fans and the 157 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: InSync fans back New Edition all just kind of all together, 158 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's really fun. But you, my friend, 159 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, we put out who do you want next? 160 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: And you're definitely the number one that everyone was trying 161 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: to get on the show. So yeah, all right, going 162 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: back to the beginning, Okay, you're fourteen years old. Yeah, 163 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: you're starting as a group there. Um so yeah, so 164 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: so Maurice. So Maurice, like I guess him in the addition, 165 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: parted ways and Maurice wanted to start another group. Uh 166 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: maybe almost you know, for revenge. I don't know, but 167 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: he wanted to start a group that was like so 168 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: he was a little older, so his references were like 169 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: seventies groups, so like there was the Jackson five and 170 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: there was the Osman. So he wanted to greet the Osman. 171 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: Basically yeah, um, and uh he's you know. He started 172 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: kind of looking around, uh for young for young white 173 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: dudes with some souls. So uh. He had a woman 174 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: named Mary Alfred that he wanted to He wanted her 175 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: to be our manager. So she started looking in her neighborhood. 176 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: There was a park and where some teenagers hung out 177 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: and she heard this kid, Donnie that I liked to 178 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: wrap and he would put on shows in the park 179 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So, um, she approached him and 180 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: he was excited to join. He met Maurice, and then 181 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: because Donnie was now in the group, he started recruiting people. Um. 182 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: So we went to elementary school together. Our families knew 183 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: each other. Um, he knew I was a singer at 184 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: the time. We weren't going to the same school, but 185 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: my brother was going to My brother Chris was going 186 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: to school with him. Um, and uh, my brother came 187 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: home one day and he was like, hey, Donnie wants 188 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: to talk to you about something something something about some group. 189 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, you know whatever. Um So 190 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: Donnie called me on the phone. You know, it's like 191 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: the rotary phone called me. We had like one in 192 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: the house, just talking about a rotary phone, right yeah, 193 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and right by the phone, we used to 194 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: write all the numbers in pencil on the wall, like 195 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: all the numbers of our friends and stuff like that. 196 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: So that's pretty funny. Uh So, so he called me 197 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, yeah, this dude, Maurice, he 198 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: wants to start a group. Um you know, I know, 199 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: you know you've sung in the church and sang in 200 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: the in the in the chorus at school and not 201 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: really like that. It's more of like, um, like a 202 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: pop group, like do addition. I was like, oh okay, here, 203 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, you know, I'll go. He said, come 204 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: to Maurice's house. You know, he wants to hear your sing. 205 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: So um so he kind of recruited me. He brought 206 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: me to Maurice's house. Um, Maurice played a couple of 207 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: songs and he told me to sing a couple of 208 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: lines and the songs a couple of songs that he 209 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: was writing for this new group, um and so, so 210 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, I think you know, I think 211 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: you could do it. Yes, and I think you're you know, 212 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: you you got it, so um so. Uh then I 213 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: went home and I was like, hey, I'm in this 214 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: new group. You know, I told my mother and John 215 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,479 Speaker 1: was like looking at me, he was like what what 216 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: what group is this? And he and I was like, yeah, 217 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: it's a new pop group, you know, blah blah. So 218 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: John kind of was like, I want to like meet Maurice, 219 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: but you know, um so I brought him back. Next 220 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: time I went over, I brought him over and Maurice 221 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, this is great. You know, two brothers 222 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: in the group. We liked that idea of how old 223 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: was he at the time. He was a year older 224 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: than me, so he might have been fifteen and a half. 225 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: I was fourteen. So and then, uh, I think Donnie 226 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: used leverage on Danny because Danny was Danny was resistant. 227 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: And then and then Donnie said, you know, Jordan joined 228 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: the group, and he was like Jordan joined, Um, okay, 229 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna join because we used to like I was like, 230 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: I was in like this breakdance group that used to 231 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: like we used to challenge his breakdance group. No, oh 232 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: my gosh, like a fourteen year old, you're like challenging 233 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: breakdancing already dance battles. Yeah, so um he knew me 234 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: through that. Um. So he's like, yeah, you know, I'll 235 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: give it a shot. Um. And then at the time 236 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: and then it was like maybe six or six months later, 237 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: a year or later, we found Joe because Maurice was 238 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: always wanting um, like the young guy, like the Donny 239 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: Osman or the Michael Jackson, the little guy UM with 240 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: the high voice. Uh so um, so we found Joe 241 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: UM and that was it. And then um the name 242 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: of the group was not Nuke Oh yeah, yeah, yeah 243 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: yeah yeah ny n Y n u K. And it's funny. 244 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: It's like this is like I was like just the name. 245 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I like the songs, I like the members, 246 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: but I hate the name. And and I would tell 247 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: people like I'd be going to school, like be on 248 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: the train and they'd be like I would tell some 249 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: of Mila friends like I'm in this new group and 250 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, that sounds cool, Like what's the name. 251 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, we ain't got a name. Yeah, we're 252 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: trying to come over with it. But we did our 253 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: first um our first talent show. We did have like 254 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: the big n Nuke sign come down n y n 255 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: u K and it is just like people. I think 256 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: it was like Maurice. He liked the name because it 257 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: kind of sounded like weird, like Manudo or something like that, 258 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: but it had no meaning. It was well, he said, 259 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: there's something about Nanuka the North or something like that. 260 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: It's like they called Polar Bears Nanukes or something like that. 261 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: It's like that name. Luke Proman wanted, you know, our 262 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: original name he really wanted was Kismet. Kismett. Yeah. I 263 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: don't think you would have been successful. I don't think so, 264 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: because really the name really makes name really yeah, it does. 265 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: It does oh Man big time. Yeah. So how did 266 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: you end up with Kids on the Block? So we 267 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: had um a rap song on our first album. The 268 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: first album really didn't do much at all, but one 269 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: of the songs on the album was Nukas on the Block. 270 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: It was the title of the song and the record 271 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: company was I guess they were struggling with the name too, 272 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: so they they approached. My reason was like, why don't 273 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: you why don't Why don't you call him Nukas on 274 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: the Block? And we were all like, yes, please, yes, 275 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: do that. Let's let's be new Kids on the Ball. 276 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: So um yeah, I kind of thought it was like 277 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: a long name, but it was a lot better than 278 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: Well then eventually you would go in KOTB, so you know, 279 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: in KOTB or new Kids. Yeah, and so all this 280 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: time you're in high school. Um, so like when did 281 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: you rehearse? When did you practice? I'm like, what did 282 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: your friends think at the time? Did they were they 283 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: supportive or were they like, oh my god, you're crazy, 284 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: you like, that's no. I think you know, all my 285 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: friends were like, I thought it was cool. Yeah, because 286 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: I played them the music and they they were like okay, 287 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: Like they they were like, it's not just some some joke, 288 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: you know or some pipe dream. Um uh. Some of 289 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: my teachers like that. I told they were like, you know, 290 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: just keep studying kids, you know, of course you know 291 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: we've heard we've heard this before. Um. But yeah, all 292 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: my friends were were cool with it. Everyone thought it 293 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: was really cool. Yeah. You know a lot of the 294 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: kids at that time, and I think this is why 295 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: we you know, we got basically we were in the 296 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: group is because we were like, we were into dancing, 297 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: we were into music, we were into singing. So our 298 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: friends were as well, you know, um, so they thought 299 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: it was like really cool that that we were doing it. Yeah, 300 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: we're definitely performers. And you know, back then, there was 301 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: no term boy band. There was nothing to compare you 302 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: guys to, except like the New Additions and those groups, 303 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: you know, the vocal groups that we all knew and loved. 304 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: So to me, I bet your friends thought it was 305 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: It was a much cooler thing to be a part 306 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: of back then than like these these days where people 307 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: compare you to a boy band as a negative, like 308 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: oh right away, right, yeah, So you know, so I think, 309 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, I could see where the high school kids 310 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: are like, yeah, man, this is cool. But like for 311 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: this generation, anyone in the high school like yeah, I'm 312 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: in this this boy band, they'd be like, oh yeah 313 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: cool man. Well I think right, I think it would 314 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: be cool now now with TikTok, everybody's kind of like 315 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: music is cool again, you know, being boy bands are 316 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: cool now? Yeah, Well, Dan, like just dancing on TikTok now, 317 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: it's like that's what every kid does. So like, I 318 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: think it's coming back into Yeah, you know it's no 319 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: longer like uh, because it's true because groups these days 320 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: they don't really dance, they don't you know. We we 321 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: always put a spectacle and y'all dat mean I've been 322 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: to your show. Uh. It was just over the top 323 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: and amazing. Didn't you camp out one night? And my 324 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: sister sister was a huge fan. I was twelve, and 325 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: I camped out for tickets in Jackson, Mississippi. Very same 326 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: y'all are playing the stadium, which no one ever came 327 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: and played a stadium, and even camping out for damn tickets, 328 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: I still got the last row in the stadium and 329 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: had to watch the show with binoculars. Uh, but it 330 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: was still even from that far away, it was an incredible, 331 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: incredible show, uh, which reminded me of the show's on 332 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: like Madonna, Janet Jackson, Michael jack and like people that 333 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: really I want you to entertain me. When I come 334 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: to a show, I get bored if you're just gonna 335 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: be sitting behind a microphone. So you guys were just 336 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: such an influence on just by the performers you were. 337 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. We used to watch Um, you 338 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: know like the Apolo, the shows at the Apollo Motown 339 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: and the Apollo and uh Jackson's and New Editions. So 340 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: that was like that was our template. So like that's 341 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: where we were going after and y'all sing it Apolo 342 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: early on, right we did? Yeah, how was that experience? 343 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: It was wild. We were walking down the street in 344 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: New York City with Maurice and Maurice was he was 345 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: a go getter, uh and um, he saw the guy 346 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: that hosted showtime at the Apollo walking down the street 347 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: and he said, hey, man, like he like practically accosted 348 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: the guy. He said, this is my group. You need 349 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: to let him on the show. Blah blah blah blah, 350 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: and he convinced the guy to get us on the show. 351 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: So we did the show. We ended up doing the 352 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: show like we opened it up or whatever, and the 353 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: guy was he loved it. So it was like come 354 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: back next week. So we went back next week and um, 355 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: it really helped us actually, uh with with our first single, 356 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: please Don't Go Girl. So that's how we got on 357 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: the showtime. We were scared boy. Yeah, it's a tough crowd, 358 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 1: but if they're behind you, they're behind you Yeah. Yeah. Um. 359 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: In an interview with People magazine in nineteen ninety, you 360 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: said that you still knew the band would become famous 361 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: even after the first album didn't do so well, and 362 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: that you probably wouldn't be in school months longer. You 363 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: still have that confidence, Um, What made you really believe that, yeah, 364 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: moving forward after your first initial attempt. I think it 365 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: was I think it was just the chemistry of the group. 366 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: It just I just felt a solid connection with all 367 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: the guys, with Maurice, with the music. I just felt 368 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: like we were solid, Like there was no we were 369 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: just in it to win it. And I really believed 370 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: like the chemistry, the different personalities really worked well together. 371 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: And I just felt that if we kept going and 372 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: kept you know, creating, and just kept moving forward, that 373 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: we would eventually it would eventually pop. Yeah, and it's right. 374 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: You were the first group, of course, I mean I was, 375 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: I was very young, but you're the first group I 376 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: remember where you did look at personalities like you knew 377 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: every single personality of the guys. I never really saw 378 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: that in the Jackson five or New Edition or any 379 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: of these other vocal groups. Of course, Michael Jackson stood 380 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: out because he was the youngest, but like I never knew, 381 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: Oh that's the shy one, that's the business guy, that's 382 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: the crazy one. But with new guys, like everyone really 383 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: had this like archetype. Yeah, like person, I think you're 384 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: the ones who kind of died that. I think that 385 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: really was the blueprint of all the groups going forward. Yeah, 386 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: but we weren't chosen for that. It just naturally, I 387 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: feel like we because then Spice Girls came out and 388 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: all that, and like, and I think we just naturally 389 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: fell into a character as we were making music, you know, 390 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: and I was like kind of known as the shy one, 391 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: but then I got like became the real shy one. 392 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: And Chris was like the crazy one and he got 393 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: real crazy. So you know, I just think everyone just 394 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: was like, well, this is what I'm supposed to be. Um, 395 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: But I blame it on you guys. Congratulations all right, 396 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: so you uh were not wrong about you blowing up, 397 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, hanging tough. The album was released in eighty eight, 398 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: a couple of years after the first album, UM and 399 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: Please Don't Go Girl becomes Smash It. It just took 400 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: off from there, did it feel? Because I mean y'all 401 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: had been together for so long already. Did it still 402 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: feel like an overnight sensation or did you feel like 403 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: we paid our damn dudes to get to that point? Both? 404 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: I think both at the same time, because once once 405 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: it hit, it really we started moving quickly. But I remember, like, 406 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: I think it was the show that we it was 407 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: like showtime, it was the Apollo or whatever, and we 408 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: did please Uncle Girl and the right stuff, and afterwards, 409 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: like I started bawling because we went over the audience 410 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: and we were so together. We were I thought we 411 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: were just really sharp and and it was all of 412 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: the effort and struggle that we put in that came out. 413 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: So it was I did feel that like we we 414 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: definitely did pay our dues. But once it started going, 415 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: it went quick, So in that sense, it felt like 416 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: an overnight sensation. But we definitely we definitely put in 417 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: the the elbow grease, the sweat and tears. Um sometimes 418 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: in stress, you know, because at times we didn't know 419 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: if we're going to get another record deal things like that. Um, well, 420 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: how did you cope with a fame part of it? 421 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: Because that at an early age, you know, having women 422 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: just throwing themselves at you. Uh, you know, is so tough? 423 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: What a nightmare? Yeah? Did everyone take it? Uh? You 424 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: know and stride you know the fandoms because you know 425 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: they're they're amazing. And I want to know your favorite 426 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: fan story because everyone has that one story, the crazy 427 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: as crazy fan story, I know, and I bet you 428 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: our fans have heard because a lot of people ask that, 429 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: but a lot of people want to know it. Uh. 430 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: But what was the first question you said? What was 431 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: just how how did you feel? How did you cope with, 432 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, being a sex symbol at such an early age? Oh? Horrible? Um, 433 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: I mean you could say it was definitely a bit overwhelming. 434 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: When you can't walk around, like you can't go to 435 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: the corner store, you can't go to the mall. You know, 436 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: they got to shut the freaking mall down, you know, 437 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: just for you to go there. Um, it starts, it did. 438 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: It did kind of become kind of a pain in 439 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: the butt. But um, the good thing, you know, and 440 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure you can relate obviously, is that you know, 441 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: there was five of us and we can hang out 442 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: with each other, and we had each other too. There 443 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 1: was always somebody's who was going through the same thing 444 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: you were going through. So it wasn't like you're just 445 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: a lonely person at the top with a bunch of 446 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: hanger on. You know, you have for other people that 447 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: you can talk to. I have my brother in the group. 448 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: A lot of times we had you know, brothers and 449 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: sisters out on the road with us that knew us 450 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: since we were really young. Even if it was like 451 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, uh, one of Danny's sisters or one of 452 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: Donnie's brothers or whatever, like they knew us too for 453 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: a long time, and you know, our parents would be out, 454 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: you know a lot, and uh so I think we 455 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: had a good base, a good support base there that 456 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: that kind of kept us grounding exactly. I say that 457 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: all the time. You know, being a soul artist, you 458 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: kind of get you can get a Michael Jackson syndrome 459 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: where everything's yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and you you know, 460 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: you don't know what reality is. But with a group, 461 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: you have four other guys next to you just slapping 462 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: you back down to earth if you ever get out 463 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: of there. You know, so you're always very grounded, very 464 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, you get humbled very easily. Might I never 465 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: even knew this, so, you know, with Mark wall Bird, 466 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, Donnie's brother. He was young, Like how old 467 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: was he is? He much younger than y'all. He's like 468 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: a year younger than me. So I always imagine him, like, 469 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: why wasn't he fighting to get into this group? I 470 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: bet he was like I could be in this. He 471 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: was in the he was in the group for a 472 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: little while when Yeah, when Donnie joined, he brought Mark along, 473 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: and um, Mark, he just wasn't into it. He wasn't 474 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: into it. He wasn't into singing. Um he well, he 475 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: even at the time, he wasn't even at the rapping 476 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: because because Maurice is trying to get him the thing, 477 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: and he was like, um and uh, He's like, I 478 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: just want to play basketball, basically, that's what I wanted to. 479 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 1: Uh So, Yeah, he dropped out. I don't know how 480 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: long he was in the group. Maybe a month, I 481 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: don't know, two months. That's funny. I never knew that. 482 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: Um So, all right, in nineteen four, Jonathan uh leaves 483 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: the band? Um one, How did that make you feel? 484 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: Did you understand where he was coming from? Yeah? I 485 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: mean I always did, because I you know, he's my brother. 486 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: I knew, um I've seen his emotional state. You know, 487 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: go back and forth and stuff like that. And as 488 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: far as I know, I knew he wasn't crazy about 489 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: being in the spotlight. Um even though he was and 490 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: he did, you know, kind of ask for it, but um, 491 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: you know there for me, it was no hard feelings, 492 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: and I know I think that all the guys understood 493 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: as well that we just had more passion for you know, 494 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: getting on stage, whether it was working or not. And 495 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: a lot of these anxieties probably could stem from I mean, 496 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: he was closeted like I was back in the day, 497 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: and you know, you don't want anyone to find there 498 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: was who you are. Yeah, that was bad back then, 499 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: it was really bad. It was you know, it was 500 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: not it was not nowhere near accepted as it is now. 501 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: It was just like like he did really he was 502 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: really hiding it, and that must have been a big burden, 503 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 1: you know. I mean it's true. I mean especially at 504 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: that time too, like the only out you know, singers 505 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: were like very flamboyant really like played into that, so 506 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: there wasn't really any examples of just there was definitely 507 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: a negative. Yeah, it was a negative, Yeah, it was. 508 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: It was. It would have been a negative and even 509 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: even when you guys came out, I think it was 510 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: like two thousand, I don't know when. I don't know 511 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: when when this was, but I did a show. It 512 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: was like a solo show. And then after um, a 513 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: reporter said, what do you think of uh, you know, 514 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: uh in sync or the boy band and a homosexual 515 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: in the group, And just the way he phrased it, 516 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: I just it just bugged me. Um. And even so 517 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: even then it was kind of like, yeah, you could 518 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: feel the little big you could feel it, and and 519 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: it just it just it just bugged me. And I 520 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: was I said, I think it's great, you know, because 521 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: it's it's diverse. You know, he'll bring in more fans, um, 522 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: and it's a great thing. You know, Why does it 523 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: have to be negative? I didn't say that, but I 524 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: just said, I think it's awesome. Yeah, and it's I mean, 525 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: it's so crazy because yeah, I remember going back to 526 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: junior high I believe uh, and you know, you guys 527 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: were just so so huge, and then someone spread a 528 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: rumor that I think maybe you were gay, and because 529 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: of just that one rumor, the kids started turning on 530 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: your group. Like that's that's how like like Voultile. It 531 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: was to like have anyone gay, especially in Mississippi event. Yeah, 532 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: oh yeah. It was just like, oh did you hear 533 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: that Jordanite? Yeah, he's gay. He's gay, and so everyone's like, 534 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: oh right, never listened to them again, yeah yeah. And 535 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 1: then as a closet a kid, you're listening to being 536 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: like oh crap, Like geez, so you knew, I mean 537 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: everything about your life and all of your surroundings you 538 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: were you were told you gotta hide it, like to survive, 539 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: you have to hide it, because yeah, it would be 540 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: dangerous if you didn't. Um. So, when y'all did stop 541 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: doing music, would you call that hiatus or would you 542 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: call that a split? Like did you did you think 543 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: that y'all would ever do anything together? Or was it 544 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: just completely done for you? At the time, it was 545 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: kind of like we're splitting, we're gonna do our own thing, 546 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna try solo stuff. We didn't know if we 547 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: would if we would come back together. Um. I think 548 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: in the back of our minds we always kept it 549 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: open that who knows, maybe someday or if some kind 550 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: of event showed up where it would be cool that 551 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: we'd all attend and kind of reunite or whatever. Um. 552 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: I know when we did solo, when we did solo 553 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: records and me and Joe we could we both had 554 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: it hit at the same time as around when you 555 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: guys were out, um and uh, we like we performed 556 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: on stage together. We did the right stuff. It wasn't 557 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: the whole group, but we did come. We did join 558 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: together as the new Kids basically. Um. But I think 559 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: we all just kept it open. But at that point, 560 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: like in ninety four, whenever it was, it was pretty 561 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: much a clean break, like we're disbanding, we're gonna do 562 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: our own things. But never you know, it wasn't in 563 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: a sour way or like, um, I hate those guys 564 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: kind of thing. It was just like we all wanted 565 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: to just pursue pursue our own lives basically. And y'all 566 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: did I mean I your song it was so great. 567 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: Give It to You was such a huge hit. And 568 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: it must have been interesting because you were part of 569 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: that TRL era with all of us, but you were 570 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: a part of the TRL era as a solo artist. 571 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: You kids didn't really get to get to that TRL 572 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, part of their career. What was the difference, 573 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: like now being a part because what was like MTV 574 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: like during the New Kids days and being able to 575 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: promote your songs versus yeah, just a few years later 576 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: where every single kid flew home from school to watch 577 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: this one show to see their favorite artist. MTV was 578 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: like a slug fest for us. It was just like 579 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: it's just like a love hate relationship almost like they 580 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: in their earlier days. It was kind of like that. 581 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: I think they didn't know if they wanted to have 582 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: a song the channel, but they almost like they had 583 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: to give in and do it because we were so popular. 584 00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: But they did it kind of like reluctantly. So it 585 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: was it was always kind of like we just get 586 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: this attitude from them, even though they were blasting us, 587 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, on their on their station on the channel, 588 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: but we'd still get kind of like, I don't know, 589 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: just an attitude with them being at that time rock 590 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: and grunge and you know, I was just a young 591 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: boy band coming on the scene and taking over. They 592 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: just yeah, because they were used to having the rock dudes, uh, 593 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: you know rule basically, and they didn't. They didn't know 594 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: how to take it. Really. I think it was just 595 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: too too much. Well, what was it like working on 596 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: solo music after a group. Did you when did you 597 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: become a songwriter? I still don't really. I mean I 598 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: don't really think of myself as a songwriter, but I did, 599 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: Like I guess when when when new kids, when we 600 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: were working on music, I I kind of like with 601 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: like I'd like to try that. Um So I started 602 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: like playing piano and like messing around writing stuff. Um So, 603 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: I probably around sixteen maybe I started messing around with 604 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: writing music. Um But to do it, like to to 605 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: do a solo album, it was a lot of fun because, 606 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: um you know, you don't have you don't have four 607 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: other guys to answer to. It's just what you've always 608 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: wanted to do. Um And it was like freedom basically. Yeah. Yeah, 609 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it was better or worse it was, 610 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: but it did feel I did feel a sense of 611 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: freedom for sure. Ye did you feel more pressure? Yeah, yeah, 612 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: because it was just you know, yeah, I felt m 613 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: I did feel pressure. I did feel pressure, but mostly 614 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: from the record label because like everything I brought in 615 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: it was I was signed to Interscope Records, and it 616 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: seemed like every song I brought in Jimmy Ivy was 617 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: like trying again go back to the studio. Yeah, I 618 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: need something incredible like and I'm like, oh my god, 619 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: you know. And then I played him one song that 620 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: piqued his interest and I said and and I and 621 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: once his interest was piqued, I said, I think it 622 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: would be great for me to work with Jimmy Jammer 623 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: Terry Lewis, and uh, he just called him right there, 624 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: right in the right in the meeting and called him 625 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: to day, Hey, Jimmy. He was like, what do I 626 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,959 Speaker 1: call him jam Jimmy jam What do I call mister 627 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: jam call him? I don't know Jimmy Jambs. So h 628 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: So he called him and I hooked up with them. 629 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: But before that end with Jimmy Jammer Terry Lewis, when 630 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: I first signed to Interscope Records, John McClain, who actually 631 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four, he came to our neighborhood and 632 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: he was a famous executive. He um like put Janet 633 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: Jackson on the map, and he was he was actually 634 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: good friends with Jimmy jam Terry Lewis. He was working 635 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: with Interscope at the time, but he came to our 636 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: neighborhood to check us out to maybe sign us to 637 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: A and M Records, and he passed. He passed on us, 638 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: but then later he was he heard that I was 639 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: looking for a record deal and he brought me to Interscope. 640 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: And so when I first signed, he said, um, uh, 641 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: there's this kid that I think you should write music with. 642 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: That that that should help you out. And he's seventeen 643 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: years old. He lives in LA. He was like, do 644 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, um, do you know who Alan Thick is? 645 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, the actor Alan think his son. 646 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: His son is a great songwriter and his name's Robin. 647 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: I'll send you a couple of his songs. So he 648 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: sent me a couple of Robin Thick songs and uh, 649 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: I was like, man, this dude, he sounds incredible. And 650 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, meet him at the studio. So I 651 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: went and met him at the studio. I pulled up 652 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 1: and he was like throwing a basketball against the wall. 653 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: He's seventeen. He has like a cap on sideways. Really 654 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: young kid. But when when we got in the studio, 655 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: he just like took over. He was incredible. So I 656 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: did um, most of my solo album with Robin really 657 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, look at seventeen, I could I mean 658 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: I started it within seeing at sixteen. At seventeen, there's 659 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: no way I would have known what to do in 660 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,720 Speaker 1: a studio. I definitely wasn't writing. I definitely wasn't sing songs. 661 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I was so green at it. I couldn't 662 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: imagine at such an early age from his dad. Oh yeah, 663 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean his dad's a great writer. Yeah, a lot 664 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: of people forget Alan Thick wrote some incredible songs and 665 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: special theme songs and TV show. Yeah. Yeah, this mom 666 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 1: had a really big pop pop hit on the radio. 667 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah that's great. That's a little tidbit of information. I 668 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: love that. I've never heard that before. All Right, So 669 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: the years two thousand and eight and you give the 670 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: blockheads what they have been waiting for, the reunion phone 671 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: New Kids on the Block. It goes down, all right, 672 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 1: how did this all happen? Who called who first? Um? 673 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: There's different versions. Uh. We all kind of stayed in touch, like, 674 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: especially when email came along, it was easy to email 675 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: each other, so um, and plus we had like we 676 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: had like lingering. We always had lingering business that we 677 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: had to attend to, like writes for songs and stuff 678 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: like that, merchandise rights, blah, blah blah blah blah. So 679 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: I think on one of the email changes kind of like, so, 680 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: what when are we gonna, like, you know, get the 681 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: show back on the road, Like I think somebody we 682 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: started kind of flirting with the idea over email, and 683 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: I think it was just for me. It was kind 684 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: of like a lot of people just started talking about 685 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: it again, just off the cuff. Like before before that 686 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: time it was like not cool, like don't get back together. 687 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: But then it started being like the world needs the 688 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: new kids again, or like the world will accept the 689 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: new kids again. I think the fans were like at 690 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: a point where they were ready again for us or 691 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: to be nostalgic, you know. And I think the I 692 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: just think the different. Um. I think I think I 693 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: just think the world was ready for it again. And 694 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: I think I think we all had a sense of that, 695 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: and that's why we all started kind of like messing 696 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: around with the flirting with the idea. And we would 697 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: call each other like separately, like me and Joe would talk, 698 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: or me and Donnie would talk, or Danny and I 699 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: would talk about they would talk without me or whatever 700 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: like um, and it was kind of like we were 701 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: just kind of dancing around it a little bit. And 702 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: one time I went out to see Joe. He's a 703 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: Joe called me, he said, you should meet gout Jared. 704 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: He works with Irving A's off and he's like, he's 705 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: really knowledgeable, knowledgeable about tours and stuff. And I went 706 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: out to Joe's house and met our still manager Jared Paul, 707 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: and he kind of hypes me up on the idea 708 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: about us touring again. And I talked to Donnie a 709 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: little bit, and there was a time where like, don't 710 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: I don't know if it. Like Donnie was like kind 711 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: of busy and had to finish some projects, so we're like, 712 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: we don't know if he's going to do it, but 713 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, he actually did want to do it, but 714 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: he was just waiting for certain things to fall into 715 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: place and to make sure that, you know, we as 716 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: a group had you know, total control over the whole thing. 717 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: It just took a little time for all of us 718 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 1: to just be ready for it. It didn't take much time. 719 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: I think we were all kind of antsy because we 720 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: all we all did feel the potential. And I think 721 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: we first gotten the studio together in two thousand and seven. Yeah, 722 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: and that was a weird experience. And did you think 723 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: the fandom would be this excited still? I mean even today, 724 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean, your fans have never left your side. Did 725 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: you Did you always feel that even as a soloist UM, 726 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: And did you expect it to be as big as 727 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,439 Speaker 1: it was when y'all came back. I felt it would 728 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: be successful, but I didn't know. I didn't know to 729 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: what degree. I did think that there was there was 730 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: definitely something there we you know, we all we all 731 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: felt that. I guess like we there was all there 732 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: was always these rock groups like the Rolling Stones or 733 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: Errol Smith from Boston, and it's like they have they 734 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: now have evergreen career. You know. Did I believe that 735 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 1: that would happen for us? Maybe not, UM, But then 736 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: like as we started going, I said, we're actually like, 737 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like a classic group now that 738 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 1: can kind of just keep going, you know, and just 739 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: kind of have an evergreen time career because the sand 740 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: base is there and they're always like my sisters, UM. 741 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:04,959 Speaker 1: Every time the who comes in town. You know, there's 742 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 1: like I think there's only two of them now, but 743 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: that was their teenage group, you know, when they were teenagers. 744 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: They loved large Adalti and the group to whom so 745 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 1: they even till today, they still go. So for me 746 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: to kind of put that together, like because because we 747 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: were a boy band, I didn't put it together. I 748 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,280 Speaker 1: thought like, maybe only that would happen with rock groups, 749 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: But it happens with boy bands as well, that's true. 750 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: And you know we hang onto those teenage years because 751 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,399 Speaker 1: that's our formative years where you know, that's your favorite movie, 752 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: is your favorite music, and yes, then you know, you 753 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: get a little older, you have to start living life, 754 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: you have to finish school, you start having kids, so 755 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: you can't really think about that too much. But then 756 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: you get to the point where you just want to reminisces. 757 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: You know, you have a little more time, you finally 758 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: found your footing in life, and you're like, ah, those 759 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: are the best. And so you're always just going to 760 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: go back to what makes you feel like you can 761 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 1: revert back to a teenager, to those those safer, innocent times. Yeah, 762 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: and there was no worries, yeah exactly, just fun. Yeah. 763 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: Now you still live in Massachusetts, you've been you've been 764 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: married with Evelyn since two thousand. When did y'all meet? 765 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: We met? Oh, we met maybe when I was like thirteen. Really, oh, 766 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: y'all go back that. Yeah, we weren't like an item then, 767 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: but I knew her. How did you know she lived? 768 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: She lived in my neighborhood. We lived in the same neighborhood. 769 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: And uh, actually her like we were like and there 770 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: was different like breakdance groups and stuff like that, and 771 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: we were like. She was like with another like kind 772 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: of crew or whatever they would call the Electric Generation, 773 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 1: And uh, why has there never been a film about 774 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: these crews in Massachusetts of these kids like battling each other. 775 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: We were the Chaos Crew. And then um, me and 776 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: my friend Edwin like we kind of like joined their crew. 777 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: And her brother was like one of the dances and 778 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: that crew, and um, I kind of hung out with 779 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: Hammy was a little older than her. Um, but yeah, 780 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: she was. She was one of the girls, you know, 781 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: she was one of the pink ladies. She was you know, 782 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 1: like so yeah, we just uh actually wasn't until after 783 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 1: like I kind of got off tour when we started 784 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: like talking talking you know, and hanging out in that 785 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: way and dating. Yea, Um, but I've known her for 786 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: a long time. That must be strange, Like at what 787 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: point did you look at her as more than her friends, 788 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: Like I've known you for so long, since you were 789 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: such a child, and now I'm starting to have feelings 790 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: for you, Like how does that switch? Well, she was 791 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: like she always seemed a little younger, like she was 792 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: part of it. Like when you're young just a year 793 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: and a half or two years, it's a big difference. Right. 794 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: So when I was twenty and she was eighteen or nineteen, 795 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, she was she was my age and she 796 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: was she was like a woman now, you know. And 797 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, hey girl, what you're doing? Where 798 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: you been my whole life? And now you have two kids? 799 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,399 Speaker 1: How is the How are the kids doing? They're good? Um, 800 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: one of my sons is in Maine. He lives with 801 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: his girlfriends and Maine, and uh, he's doing good. My 802 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: younger son, Eric is in tenth grade, plays basketball. We 803 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,399 Speaker 1: just went down the park yesterday. Kind of I'm still 804 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: feeling it. I'm a little sore. We were playing a 805 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: little be ball. But he's he's loving the Boston Celtics 806 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: and he's big into basketball and of course video games 807 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Well, yeah, they're good. You have 808 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: such a big connection to your home I can imagine. 809 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone knows you live there. Is it just 810 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: kind of oh yeah, Jordan's he's just part of the community. 811 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: Or do people still freak out when they see you 812 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: at the basketball court? Um they kind of like, uh, 813 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: like I I'll see them, like they were like looking 814 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: at me, but they don't make a big deal, which 815 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: is really cool. I think they are used to seeing 816 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: me around town, you know, so they're just like like 817 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,760 Speaker 1: they'll point at me or stuff like that, or smile 818 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 1: and waves good to see you, blah blah blah. Um, 819 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: but it's not, Um, it's not a big deal. Um, 820 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: it's really cool. It's like it's like right now, it's 821 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: like the best of both worlds. It's like you get recognized. 822 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's nice to get recognized. It's nice to 823 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: be important. Um, but it's also kind of like it's 824 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,439 Speaker 1: not a big fuck like it used to be. Yeah, 825 00:48:51,840 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: they're not off this time, right right totally exactly. Oh yeah, yeah, 826 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: I go to West Hollywood. The gays are like yeah, 827 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: they're just like yeah, they'll acknowledge you. They were like, hey, 828 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: lands good to see you, blah blah. But it won't 829 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: go crazy all right, let's get to a frosted tip here. 830 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: All right, you're in a band with four other guys. 831 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: You've been together for almost forty years now. I'm sure 832 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: you're you guys have had many disagreements over the years. 833 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 1: I mean that's what family does. When you have brothers, 834 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: you fight, you you make up, you love each other, 835 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: you hate each other. Um. So what tips do you 836 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: have on working with or going into business with close 837 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: friends or family? Oh? Man, family, like straight up family 838 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: going into business? Yeah, um, what tips? I would So 839 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: I guess get everything out up like, lay it out 840 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: up front. I think like with family, it's kind of like, um, 841 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of like there's a lot of unwritten rules 842 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: are unsaid rule and it's based off of family, um, 843 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: not on business. So I think, like you guys, you 844 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 1: have to be like very upfront. I think right off 845 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 1: the bat, like, I know we're family, but this is 846 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: a business. You know that type of things like, because 847 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, I think in family, you kind of like 848 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: you'll do whatever. You know, you'll cut corners, you know, 849 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:43,879 Speaker 1: you'll let things go through. You'll act on the family. Yeah, 850 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: you'll act on the more of the family emotional dynamic 851 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: rather on like clear cut, rational business decisions. So it's 852 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to differentiate those things. So they 853 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: I think up front they have to be like kind 854 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 1: of like laid out. Yeah, what are your intentions? All right, 855 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: let's get this fan question. Oh yes, here's another fan 856 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:12,320 Speaker 1: question from April seven, four one two. She said, you 857 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 1: deleted your Instagram. Will you ever come back to social media? 858 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: You know what? Um, I deleted my like all my 859 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,799 Speaker 1: social media like kind of as an experiment. Yeah, um, 860 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: because I was like, I know, it's like I was, 861 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: I was on my phone all the time. I would 862 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: get into like and I liked it too, of course, 863 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: like it's it's kind of addicting. Um. Yeah. And then 864 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: I would get into like political stuff and you know 865 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: what I mean, Yeah, and it's like what the hell 866 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: am I doing? Like yeah, and I would be like 867 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:58,720 Speaker 1: hanging out with my family, uh, or just like doing stuff. 868 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 1: Maybe I should be like just soak in life, man, 869 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: like live in the real world, like I was telling myself, 870 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, let me, let me experiment and 871 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: like delete my social media. And I gotta tell you, 872 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: it's it's not easy. It was like I had so 873 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,320 Speaker 1: much time It's like I felt like I had so 874 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: much time on my hand because I was any moment 875 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: where like I was a little bored or whatever, I 876 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:31,320 Speaker 1: would just go like this, yeah, and so there was 877 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,800 Speaker 1: like this boy, but like it went away. Um, and 878 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,959 Speaker 1: I just got used to not looking at my phone 879 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: so much and not replying, not reading, not looking blah 880 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Did you find yourself getting into like 881 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: with all this extra time, did you like, oh my gosh, 882 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm reading more or I actually spend more time doing 883 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: this now. I mean I got more like just more 884 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: into like just thinking about like little things I need 885 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: to get done. Like I'm more attentive to like just 886 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 1: little things instead of like putting things off, procrastinating, being 887 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: a little lazy. Um, I've gotten better at that YouTube. 888 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: I still am on YouTube and I am a YouTube junkie, 889 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 1: so that does take up some time too. Um. I'm 890 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: definitely more present, I would say, just in the real world, 891 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: Like I feel like more of a human being, you know, 892 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: without it. And also like I noticed like like when 893 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: you have social media, you like create an image, you know, 894 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: of your life or yourself. And I kind of like 895 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: I noticed that, like like it's like you kind of 896 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: show off a little bit, you know, how cool your 897 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: life is, or like let me post this, let me 898 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,359 Speaker 1: post that I'm at the Celtics game. I'm here, I'm 899 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm there, Like let me show how cool I am 900 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: or well, especially especially when you're a celebrity, right, I mean, 901 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 1: because I don't use social media as a personal thing, 902 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 1: like I'm not talking to my real friends and all 903 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: that and showing you know, my personal life too much. 904 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: We use it as a promotional thing. It's like to 905 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: show the entertainment side of us. So what we present. 906 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,720 Speaker 1: I mean, most people present this kind of like false 907 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,840 Speaker 1: narrative of their life, but when it comes to you know, entertainers, 908 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: we really show the false, like the perfect world of us. 909 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 1: But I agree, I got rid of Twitter, which was 910 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: like evil. I do it the Instagram and I do 911 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 1: the TikTok, but it all. I definitely limit myself with 912 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 1: the time, and I think it's so important anyone listening 913 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: right now take a social media break, even if it's 914 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,839 Speaker 1: for a week. Really, just when you get that life 915 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: back a little bit, you realize how addictive this really 916 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: has become, and especially if you suffer from anxiety, like 917 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,879 Speaker 1: when I stop Twitter and like going on Instagram every 918 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 1: three minutes. I go on it maybe twice a week 919 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 1: now just to check. Uh. You know, Briefly, my anxiety 920 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,760 Speaker 1: went so down because I would just find myself again 921 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 1: like getting in debates or commenting on things, and then 922 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 1: seeing someone else reply, then my heart would start going 923 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: getting me mad, so I had to reply again, and 924 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: they would be like hours all day of a span 925 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: of me replying to this one person who who they are, 926 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 1: and it just kind of affects my whole day, and 927 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, God, not having to do that. It's just 928 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 1: been like you're having a political debate, like eleven year 929 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 1: old who has no idea what I'm talking about under 930 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: a fake name exactly, Like what have I done for 931 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: the past four hours? Right? Right? Or even just like 932 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: taking a selfie of like what you're doing and then 933 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 1: reading all the comments. Oh that's all that attention, you 934 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like it becomes addictive just 935 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 1: getting that you know, positive feedback instantly, and then you 936 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: kind of lose sight of what's actually like important. I 937 00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,840 Speaker 1: don't know, it's just kind of mess with your mind. Yeah. Yeah, Uh. 938 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: This one's from Cool Beans Smitch or cool Beans Mitch. 939 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 1: If you could go back in time, what advice would 940 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,879 Speaker 1: you give your teenage Jordan's self, I was like when 941 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 1: I was when I was in my teens, Like I 942 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,320 Speaker 1: like in any like new situation on stage, I would like, 943 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 1: I had really bad dage anxiety. Um, so I'd be 944 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: I guess I would just be like, uh, what would 945 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: I tell myself? I would tell myself like, you're you're 946 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: good enough? Just who cares like you're good enough? Like 947 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: stop trying to be perfect? Um? You know, uh, if 948 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, if the crowd has a problem with you 949 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: whole well, you know, or if somebody wants to criticize 950 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 1: you whatever, who cares you're doing what you love? You 951 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 1: know that kind of thing because I did it, Yeah, 952 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 1: I was. Other guys in the group would tell you 953 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: I had a bad stage anxiety, I guess. And that's 954 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: such a good advice for just anybody. You know, you 955 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 1: when you're a teenager just doing anything that you don't 956 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: have to be in the biggest group in the world, 957 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 1: like you just everything you take to heart, and you're 958 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: just so insecure. You think everyone's looking at you, everyone's 959 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 1: judging at you, and the older you get, you look 960 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: back and you're like, oh, that really isn't the case. 961 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 1: And if people are here to see me, then they 962 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 1: like me because they like me. I don't have to 963 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 1: be anything else. Yeah, And and know that other people's 964 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 1: opinions about you is none of your business. It's like, 965 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: I don't even know what you think about me. It's 966 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 1: none of my business what you think of me. Yeah. Um, 967 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: all right? Do you have a super fan here in 968 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 1: Los Angeles? Veronica Pee? And she just asked, would you 969 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: give it to me? Oh? Man, I'll just say that's 970 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 1: a good one. That's a good one. Would you give it? 971 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: All right? So, oh yeah, that one from Chastity XO XL. 972 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 1: And I'm actually interested more to about this whole thing. Um, 973 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 1: she said. I just booked my first n KOTB cruise. 974 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: Any tips? I know y'all made this thing, Like, I know, 975 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 1: the coolest thing ever. Everyone is doing these cruises now 976 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: because of you guys. Cruise is fun. Dude. You should 977 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,439 Speaker 1: come on our cruise, man, join us. That would be fun. 978 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 1: I would love to ie. We've only been on two 979 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 1: cruises in our life and I really enjoyed it. But yeah, 980 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: I would love to come to it in KOT. I 981 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,439 Speaker 1: mean that would be wild. Huh, that would be cool. 982 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 1: You guys came, that would be awesome. I'll bring a 983 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: live frosted tips. Yeah, do a live podcast from the 984 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: cruise actually be fun. So how do you mean it's 985 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: really cool? I mean, do you feel like you're trapped 986 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 1: on this ship with everyone? Or do y'all just have 987 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 1: the best time ever? I think a little bit of both. Yea. 988 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: Especially the first one, we felt like it was like, oh, shoot, 989 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 1: we are trapped on this like boat with three thousand people. Um, 990 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 1: there's no getting off of this thing. Um. But we 991 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: just like we just like kind of like went in 992 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 1: just like this might feel weird, but let's just go 993 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 1: for it and just look at it as just let's 994 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 1: just have fun, embrace it all and and have a 995 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: blast with it. And uh it is wild. Man. Like 996 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 1: every day we like we do something we do. We'll 997 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 1: do like a game show in the theater. Um, we'll 998 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 1: do a show in the theater. And then at night 999 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: we do, um we do a party on the deck, 1000 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 1: like a themed party, Like it might be an eighties party. 1001 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: It might be like wear a certain color. Everybody wears 1002 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: a certain color type of thing. We've had so many themes. 1003 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,600 Speaker 1: Um they people go all out to like make their 1004 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: costumes amazing. We stay out there for hours and and 1005 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 1: saying and dance and just it's like, uh, it's like 1006 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 1: a festive like on on a ship, you know, or 1007 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 1: like a like a dance party like a nightclub or something, 1008 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, on the ship every night. So every night 1009 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: we do it, and uh, it's fun. I could imagine 1010 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: that personal boundaries might get crossed because I'm thinking, you know, 1011 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 1: you're a fan, you're away from the kids for a week. 1012 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 1: You know, you've saved up some money just to have 1013 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 1: the best time. You're safe on this ship, You're with 1014 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 1: your favorite band. I've had a little bit too much 1015 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: to drink now, Yeah, and I yeah, I can only 1016 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 1: imagine that boundaries are crossed with you guys. So how 1017 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 1: do you how would you deal with a very drunk 1018 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 1: fans tear clothes off? Um, well, you know, I don't know. 1019 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: We have certain difference, we have certain moves. Yeah, we 1020 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 1: use we have we have you know, we have we 1021 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 1: each have like a party guard. But uh, it's not 1022 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 1: too bad. But yes, sometimes that does happen. But um, 1023 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: there's a thing. We usually like when we do the 1024 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 1: um parties at night on the deck, like there's usually 1025 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 1: a stage and then there's a couple that there's kind 1026 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 1: of a sea of fans and stuff, and then there's 1027 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 1: a couple of stages like out in the in the 1028 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 1: crowd that we want to get to. So we usually 1029 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: crowd surf over to those stages. Wow. So talking about 1030 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 1: like violating, I'm sure there's some hands. Oh yeah, so 1031 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 1: we you know, we were like we're on top of 1032 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 1: the crowd, crowd surfing, but we're all holding our holding 1033 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: our jump. Yeah, jock, jock. All right. Oh, here's a 1034 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 1: good question from Elizabeth from Elizabeth fifteen eighty and I 1035 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: didn't even realize y'all did this. Yeah. Interesting on what 1036 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 1: was the best part of touring with n SYNC back 1037 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine? B nice, do you realize y'all together? Yeah? Awesome, 1038 01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 1: you know what it was freaking it was awesome, Like 1039 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: I got that like when I toured with you guys, 1040 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: I was like I got the rush back from the 1041 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 1: new kids. You know, it was like this is this 1042 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 1: is what I've been through, you know, this is yea 1043 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 1: And it was so cool, Like when when I was 1044 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 1: putting that song give It to You out, um, Johnny 1045 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 1: Johnny Wright was like he just like open arms, Like 1046 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: it was really cool that that you guys invited me 1047 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: on that tour and and uh, like they treated me 1048 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 1: so well. It was you guys really treated me so well. 1049 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 1: They put me on right before they went on and 1050 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,080 Speaker 1: most nights, you guys, like one of you guys took 1051 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 1: turns like introducing me, which was hilarious, and it was 1052 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,160 Speaker 1: a lot of It was a lot of fun. Man. 1053 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 1: We were so excited to have you because, like I said, 1054 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you were such an influence on us. I 1055 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 1: mean we wouldn't be a band without you. Um, So 1056 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 1: it was And I'm a blockhead, you know, You're one 1057 01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,640 Speaker 1: of the first groups that I was. I went to 1058 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 1: go a concert of You're probably my second concert ever. 1059 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 1: So to see to have you on tour with us 1060 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 1: was just a treat. But then just to see the 1061 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 1: instinct fans fall in love with you, you know, as 1062 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,959 Speaker 1: the blockhead myself, it just made me very very happy. Yeah, 1063 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: thank you man. Yeah, it was it was really you 1064 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 1: guys were really gracious in doing that, and it was 1065 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 1: it was so cool, man, it was so cool, and 1066 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 1: we hung out a lot after the shows on days off. 1067 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 1: It was just um and you guys were loads of fun. 1068 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 1: And I was like this group, man, I loved you guys. 1069 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 1: You guys were because it was I think it was 1070 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 1: just just the way the spirit that you guys had. 1071 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 1: You know, you didn't take it too seriously, but when 1072 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: it came but when it came down to business, you 1073 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 1: handled you handled it like you guys were no jokes 1074 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 1: and and I could say the same about the same 1075 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: thing about your group that's very similar in sync is yeah, 1076 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 1: you didn't take yourself so seriously. You knew what it was. 1077 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, when it came down to business, you you 1078 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: did your job. You knew what you had to do. Uh. Focus, 1079 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 1: but you know you also have to have fun with it, right, 1080 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:14,920 Speaker 1: If you're not having fun, then why why are you 1081 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 1: doing this anyway? All Right? So I have a questionnaire 1082 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 1: from Teenbeat magazine in the eighties. I want to see 1083 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 1: if your answers will match today. Okay, oh this was 1084 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 1: this was answers I had back then. Yeah, so it's 1085 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 1: probably like nineteen eighty nine, Teenbeat magazine asked what are 1086 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 1: your hobbies? What are your hobbies? In eighty nine, I 1087 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 1: would say music, playing the keyboard, playing the piano. Um, 1088 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 1: that's it. It was actually basketball. Oh yeah, basketball reading magazines. 1089 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 1: You're a big magazine reader. Yeah, going to clove to 1090 01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 1: going to gloves. Okay, well they're right about that, they're 1091 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: right about basketball. I don't know about magazines though, apparently, 1092 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 1: Well this is a magazine saying you like to eat magazine, 1093 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 1: so they probably going to clubs. How's your club days 1094 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 1: these years? Non existent? Non existing? All right, what's your 1095 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 1: favorite drink? Um? Right now? My favorite drink is black 1096 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 1: cherry selfler. Oh that sounds delicious. I don't drink alcohol. Yeah. 1097 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 1: What was your favorite drink back in the late eighties? Um, 1098 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 1: white Russian? Well you gave a very PG. It's chocolate milk, 1099 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 1: chocolate milk, chocolate milk. It was like, this is kind 1100 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 1: of related to a white Russian. Yeah, true, I did 1101 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 1: love chocolate milk back then. Who didn't, I mean, because 1102 01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 1: I can imagine. Also, like with us, the record label 1103 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 1: management alluded to, look, you gotta be clean, guys, don't 1104 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 1: be seen with a girlfriend, don't be no drinking, no smoking. 1105 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 1: So y'all, y'all, really, you know you had that innocent image. 1106 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 1: Was that hard to keep? Yeah? Um, well no, it 1107 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,840 Speaker 1: wasn't hard to keep well, well we didn't keep it, 1108 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 1: but um but was it hard to you know, keep quiet? 1109 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Uh not too Yeah, no, we no social media exactly. 1110 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,919 Speaker 1: I think that's what I think that's what it was. Yeah, 1111 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 1: you could just pretend there's rumors like, well, no one's 1112 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 1: gonna really know, prove it. You go to the club 1113 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 1: and have fun and hang out. Yeah, no cameras, no 1114 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 1: camera Yeah. Who was your favorite actor? What did you 1115 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 1: say back in the late eighties? I would say because 1116 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 1: I was like I was into those mob movies, um, 1117 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 1: and we used to watch them on on tour a 1118 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 1: lot and re enact them like Good Fellas and and 1119 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: The Godfather. So it would probably be at that time 1120 01:06:52,960 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 1: Robert Nei. Yeah, yes, all right, uh biggest okay, biggest 1121 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 1: thrill nineteen eighty nine, what's the biggest thrill? Biggest thrill 1122 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 1: in eighty nine? I would just say, like like having 1123 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:16,120 Speaker 1: number one record like that was like we like hit 1124 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 1: Hit the Pinnacle and just I think we were just 1125 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 1: living at that time. We were just living the dream, 1126 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 1: just traveling the world and being the biggest thing on 1127 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 1: the planet. Yeah, yeah, you said, hear hearing a new 1128 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,040 Speaker 1: kids song on the radio for the first time. Yeah, 1129 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,040 Speaker 1: So do you do you remember the first time you 1130 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 1: heard your song on the radio? Yeah? Um, it was 1131 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 1: on an AM station. Um, but it was the station 1132 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 1: we all listened to and even still um. Like, every 1133 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 1: when you hear your song on the radio, there's like 1134 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 1: a certain sound radio has, like a compression or something 1135 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 1: like that, where it doesn't sound like if you just 1136 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 1: popped into your cassette tape or whatever. It doesn't sound 1137 01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 1: like that. It just has a radio sound. To hear 1138 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 1: the DJ introduced the song, and to know that everybody 1139 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 1: in the city is hearing the song, you know, it's 1140 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,600 Speaker 1: like that was a rush for sure. It's so great. 1141 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 1: All right, before we let you go, I need to 1142 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,559 Speaker 1: know what you're binging, watching listening to. All right, give 1143 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 1: us something television wise. What do we need to be 1144 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,679 Speaker 1: binging right now? Well, everyone's watching I think we just finished. 1145 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: I think it's been finished yellow Stone White Lotus. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 1146 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,960 Speaker 1: we love our Jennifer Cool. Oh oh, you know what's 1147 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,599 Speaker 1: coming up is? Um, I don't know. You guys probably 1148 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,640 Speaker 1: know the show Succession. I was about to say a 1149 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,519 Speaker 1: succession waiting for it and it's the final season two, 1150 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,720 Speaker 1: it's coming up, coming up, so everyone that one. It's 1151 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 1: so good. We just finished or we're finishing. Uh m, 1152 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,720 Speaker 1: Night Shamalan's show called Servant. It is a it's a. 1153 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 1: It is definitely what does it cast? Servant? It's on 1154 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:08,559 Speaker 1: Apple Plus right, Okay, it's it's a very creepy. Yeah, 1155 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 1: it's it's good. It's really good. Yeah, but you don't, 1156 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 1: just like Night Shamalan, you just never know where it's going. 1157 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 1: It's just like the fourth season now and we're still 1158 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,720 Speaker 1: like I still but now it's all making sense this 1159 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,479 Speaker 1: last season, like oh, okay, that's that's what's happening, all right. 1160 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a good one. Um. So what song 1161 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:27,280 Speaker 1: do you have stuck in your head right now? What 1162 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,640 Speaker 1: are we listening to? Let's see, Oh, what's that The 1163 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 1: Weekend song? Uh even though We'll go dead die for you? Yeah, yes, 1164 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 1: I think that is the jam. I love that song. 1165 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 1: And the Weekend just got named the most popular artist 1166 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 1: in the world by Guinness Book of World Records this week. 1167 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: How did they measure that? Yeah? I don't know. I 1168 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,280 Speaker 1: mean I guess through charts and everything from every country. 1169 01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's got the most popular ar 1170 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 1: just like ever in the world. Got a lot of 1171 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 1: a lot of good ones. All right, and what movie 1172 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 1: do we need to see? Oh? Man, yeah, I haven't 1173 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 1: watched a movie. That's hard for me a long time. 1174 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,519 Speaker 1: Everything is like, you know, you watch series and stuff 1175 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 1: like that on what everything's a movie now it's just 1176 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:32,160 Speaker 1: extended me. Yeah, exactly. Um Man, I don't know. That's 1177 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 1: a tough one. What movie do you know? I've not 1178 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,439 Speaker 1: even seen Top Gun yet. We haven't seen anything. I know, 1179 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,840 Speaker 1: like I haven't. I saw the Everywhere Anything all at once. 1180 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,560 Speaker 1: That was incredible. Oh really, Oh it's so good. Was 1181 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,640 Speaker 1: it that on my list? Because we just watched the 1182 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 1: whatever whatever Grammy? It's such a crazy Yeah, you're almost there. 1183 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 1: It's hands down, like such a wild It's a fun ride. 1184 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,479 Speaker 1: Once because I didn't know anything about it, and once 1185 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,040 Speaker 1: I finished the movie, I'm like, that's gonna win movie 1186 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 1: the year. There's just something about it. You're just like, 1187 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,960 Speaker 1: it made me feel so good and weird. It's like 1188 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,840 Speaker 1: every genre of movie. It's ridiculous, but you just have 1189 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,360 Speaker 1: to take it for what it is because a lot 1190 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,160 Speaker 1: of people are like I couldn't get past the first 1191 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, but no, stick with it. It's just it's 1192 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,719 Speaker 1: such a wild ride. It's I thought it was a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. 1193 01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,960 Speaker 1: All right, Jordan, what's next for you? What's next for you? 1194 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 1: And the guys? How can we see in k OTB 1195 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 1: next We are doing a cruise yeah this year that 1196 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 1: you guys will be on and and we're doing UM 1197 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,640 Speaker 1: the Iowa State Fair. We just did UM which was 1198 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:51,479 Speaker 1: really cool. We just did UM a rodeo in Houston, 1199 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 1: the Houston Rodeo, so like they had they've been doing 1200 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 1: it for years and year. It's like thirty forty years 1201 01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 1: and it's huge, and we did it was like in 1202 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 1: an area and we all had like cowboy hats on 1203 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 1: and stuff and it was Yeah, it was so fun. 1204 01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 1: It was so cool. So we did we already did that. 1205 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,760 Speaker 1: And we're doing a thing called block cond kind of 1206 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 1: like um, I don't even know what to happen? What 1207 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,880 Speaker 1: is it? Kind of like uh, like what they just 1208 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,559 Speaker 1: did in Connecticut the nineties cons like common con Like yeah, 1209 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 1: it's just like we're gonna do like panels and stuff 1210 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 1: and and UM talk about different UM topics and things 1211 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 1: that the fans will be interested in. But it's like 1212 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:35,200 Speaker 1: a three day it's like a three day long kind 1213 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 1: of like cruise. Basically we're gonna do shows, but we're 1214 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,720 Speaker 1: also going to like do some interesting things like on 1215 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 1: different topics of the group and just kind of like 1216 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 1: have panels and kind of just talk about things and 1217 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,360 Speaker 1: UM take questions and stuff like that. So we're doing 1218 01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:57,719 Speaker 1: that UM I think in late May and uh Iowa 1219 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 1: State Fair and the cruise. So that's what we're doing 1220 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 1: this year. And then we're we're going to be recording 1221 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 1: an album for a tour that we're doing next year, 1222 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,760 Speaker 1: so we're gonna have a full album soon, I think. 1223 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:17,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, that is great to hear. Yeah, that's amazing. 1224 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,640 Speaker 1: Well we're looking forward to that. I know you're not 1225 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:22,599 Speaker 1: on social media, so no one's able to really get 1226 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,360 Speaker 1: in touch with you, But what would you like to 1227 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:29,560 Speaker 1: tell the fans right now? UM? I mean, obviously just 1228 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:35,439 Speaker 1: thank you guys for continued support. UM, we are still 1229 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: we're still together as a group. Even though I'm not 1230 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:44,920 Speaker 1: on social media, I'm still you know, I'm still thinking 1231 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,759 Speaker 1: of you guys, even though I'm not on social media. 1232 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:53,160 Speaker 1: We're putting together a new album. We're thinking about you guys, 1233 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,560 Speaker 1: and we want to make it a great album, and 1234 01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,000 Speaker 1: we want to put together a great tour for you 1235 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,479 Speaker 1: guys next year so we can all party again and 1236 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,880 Speaker 1: keep the party going. Yeah, that's right, Well, we're all 1237 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 1: super excited. Any other questions for Jordan, just DM Donnie. 1238 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll get it to him. But Jordan's always 1239 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,040 Speaker 1: great to see you, my man, Always great to catch up. 1240 01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,519 Speaker 1: I've learned a lot more about you, which I was 1241 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm just excited about. But yeah, I'll be seeing you 1242 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 1: on the cruise because we're booking our ticket. Yeah yeah, 1243 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,120 Speaker 1: all right, man, thank you so much for being on 1244 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,080 Speaker 1: Froust the Tips. We'll see you later. You guys a 1245 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:34,200 Speaker 1: buddy later. Bye bye. We love our Jordan night. So yeah, 1246 01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 1: my sister would be very excited. I should have gotten her, 1247 01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm something, because I mean, she's the one who made 1248 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,720 Speaker 1: me a blockhead, true. Yeah, And I don't even know 1249 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,080 Speaker 1: if she was like a real blockhead. I think, you know, 1250 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:46,680 Speaker 1: because when you're that young, you just want to do 1251 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 1: what everyone else does. Like I'm cool, I like this group, 1252 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 1: so but I know she really is the one who 1253 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 1: introduced me to New Kids on the Block. This was 1254 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,720 Speaker 1: for you, Stacy. I was so cool. It's cool. Yeah, 1255 01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 1: I wished the New Kids concert last Yeah, ask me 1256 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 1: about it. I camped out for ticket. Yeah, I'm a true, 1257 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,560 Speaker 1: true fan. Yeah. Although I had to wear binoculars to 1258 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 1: see them. But that's okay, it's you know, it's part 1259 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,960 Speaker 1: of growing up. It's okay. So have you had a 1260 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 1: lazy eye? It was fine back then? Wow, okay, whatever, 1261 01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 1: all right? Anything else you would like to say before 1262 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:18,840 Speaker 1: we let everyone go? They went to a little long 1263 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 1: everyone's been asking for longer episodes. Yeah, you go. You 1264 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 1: got one. Guys, you got a lot of content. I know, 1265 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,360 Speaker 1: I know. Is there anything I want to say? Yeah, 1266 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 1: you're good. I'm good. I'm great. Okay, what about you? 1267 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm good, I'm excited. Well, we're just good. 1268 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,599 Speaker 1: We're in Mississippi right now and it's amazing and it's 1269 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,800 Speaker 1: going to be with a family. It is Easter's coming. 1270 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,680 Speaker 1: We had to plan our Easter egg hunt. It's fun 1271 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,680 Speaker 1: because every year I throw an Easter egg hunt for 1272 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,519 Speaker 1: our friends with kids. But now we get kids and 1273 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 1: we're like, we need to really plan one because now 1274 01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,080 Speaker 1: they can hold an Easter basket. They can and and 1275 01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,280 Speaker 1: and our our daughter is great at collecting. She's a hoarder. 1276 01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,320 Speaker 1: She has a hoard, complete hoarder. So she is going 1277 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 1: to be probably the best Easter egg hunter ever. Oh yes, 1278 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 1: you will get those eggs and hoard them. And don't 1279 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 1: you dare try to take them from her? No, no, 1280 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 1: but she wouldn't cry if he took it from her. 1281 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,040 Speaker 1: She's very generous. Yeah, it's like, yeah, take it, yeah, 1282 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 1: but she will. Alexander would not like if he took 1283 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 1: his eggs, so he would. He's gotten to the point 1284 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,519 Speaker 1: now where he throws his whole body in the ground, 1285 01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 1: whole body and it's like a car too, where he's 1286 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,000 Speaker 1: like kicking his legs in his arms and it's such 1287 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,280 Speaker 1: a fake cry. It's a fake cry, but he's a 1288 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,559 Speaker 1: total fake. And then ten seconds later he's laughing. He's 1289 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,040 Speaker 1: full on convulsion. Like I don't know if he said 1290 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:31,960 Speaker 1: that word right on the floor, he does that term. Yeah, 1291 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,280 Speaker 1: but a goes. I don't know if parents out there 1292 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,680 Speaker 1: they do this, but they just go limp. So you're 1293 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 1: holding them or whatever, they just don't want it and 1294 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,120 Speaker 1: they just go limp. If they don't want you, Yes, 1295 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:42,720 Speaker 1: if he doesn't want you to hold him, he will 1296 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,599 Speaker 1: doesn't go. He throws his arms completely up, so he's 1297 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,920 Speaker 1: just like a noodle and he just slides out of 1298 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 1: her arms. He also has a new thing the other night. 1299 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,680 Speaker 1: Hopefully this is not like a new thing. And it 1300 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,600 Speaker 1: was just that night. Oh god, oh god, I was 1301 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,080 Speaker 1: putting him to bed. Well, he did it months ago. Yeah, 1302 01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,920 Speaker 1: he did hand. He got through a habit of like 1303 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,160 Speaker 1: making himself throw up and he thinks it's so funny. 1304 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:02,800 Speaker 1: And I'm like, a lot of parents are told me 1305 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 1: that's a normal. Yeah it is, but he was doing it. 1306 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,320 Speaker 1: I put it out of the bath, get him into bed. 1307 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,280 Speaker 1: He is all cozy his little pajamas and he's just 1308 01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 1: stick his fingers down the throat and threw up all 1309 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 1: over his face and he's laughing with like and and 1310 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,360 Speaker 1: he did it twice. He did that to me a 1311 01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,000 Speaker 1: couple of times. One in the bed. Yeah. I just 1312 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,679 Speaker 1: put him down and he thought it was so funny 1313 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,080 Speaker 1: and all over his face. And then he did that 1314 01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,760 Speaker 1: also one time again right after our bath, just changing 1315 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,160 Speaker 1: him on the chain, he taps and just and laughs laugh. Yes, 1316 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 1: thinks it's the funniest and if you yell at him, 1317 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 1: he don't know. The more you yell at him, like no, 1318 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,960 Speaker 1: like angry, like I would be scared as a child. 1319 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,720 Speaker 1: He thinks it's the funniest thing that he can never be. 1320 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,679 Speaker 1: He never thinks he's being punished. No, he just thinks 1321 01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,560 Speaker 1: it's this is what they want me to do. So 1322 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 1: he's the type of person you have to just ignore him. 1323 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 1: And it sucks to have to just like turn your 1324 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,200 Speaker 1: back on him doing weird stuff like that, but you 1325 01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,439 Speaker 1: just have to ignore him. I might just have to 1326 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,320 Speaker 1: take Mittens to his hands. A little Mittens would be 1327 01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,280 Speaker 1: cute on him. Mittens. All right, all right, guys, that's 1328 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:00,960 Speaker 1: all the show we have for you today. Thank you 1329 01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 1: Jordan Night for being with us. Thank you my hubby, 1330 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, be good to each other out there. Don't 1331 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,720 Speaker 1: drink and drive, um, any other can be good to 1332 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,439 Speaker 1: your animals. Give be good to the animals, yeah, because 1333 01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,479 Speaker 1: they'll be good to you. That's right, It's gonna be 1334 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 1: good to you anyway. Yeah. Um, and remember stay frosted. Hey, 1335 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,559 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. 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