1 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to PM mood then No Talking Points, no Bullshit 2 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: podcast that takes you behind the curtain, off the red carpet, 3 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: and to the front lines of progress with change makers 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: and innovators that are doing the work to shift our 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: culture and expand their social impact. Welcome to PM mood 6 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Yolanda Ross who is a multi hyphen it and I 7 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: love me some multi hyphen actress, writer, director, producer. I 8 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: also hear that you are also an artist, are you, yeah, yes, 9 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: that you are a painter. I love a multi hyphen 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: person and I find that a lot of black folks 11 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: we are multi hyphen it just by my nature. So 12 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining PM mood It's my pleasure, Daniel. 13 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: So where you know what, we we changed up the 14 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: show a little bit given the fact that we are 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: in a global pandemic. So where are you joining us from? 16 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: Where have you been quarantined? And how are you doing? 17 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: I am in Los Angeles in the ice and the 18 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Hollywood Hills, and I'm doing good. You know, where I'm 19 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: staying at has outdoor space, which is you know, it's 20 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: a huge help, you know, on the mind and on 21 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: the body. I'm able to walk around in the neighborhood, 22 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: which you know, just allows you to see green stuff 23 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: and hear birds. I actually, you know what, as I've 24 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: been taking walks with my housemate, I you know, one 25 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: day out of the blue, saw a lizard you know, 26 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: get go, and I was like, wow, I have not 27 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: seen one of those in forever. And I just started 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: to feel like the little creatures and the you know, 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: trees and everything, they're feeling, you know, our presence not 30 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: being there, and it's like I feel like they're breathing, 31 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: you know. I keep telling people that I believe that 32 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: in many ways. And there was something that I had read. 33 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: It was definitely not of my own creation, but they 34 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: were talking about the coronavirus, as you know, a virus 35 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: that was actually intended to heal the earth. Right like 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: we are seeing reports carn emissions are down globally seventeen percent, 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: right Like we've seen pictures of different countries, different bodies 38 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: of water that have become clearer, the areas cleaner. I'm 39 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: out here on Long Island and I will tell you 40 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: that the sky seems bluer, the grass seems greener. You 41 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: know what happens when we are forced inside and we 42 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: allow nature to heal itself. So if there is at 43 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: all any benefit in this moment, it would be that. 44 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: And I'm actually seeing real people walking and riding and 45 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: riding actual bikes. It's really wild. Hadn't seen that in 46 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: the longest time. You know, it's crazy because I mean 47 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: people don't you know, just to speak for say people 48 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: entertainment or anybody that does things for themselves as far 49 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: as work. When you are forced to stop, it does 50 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: something to you, you know. I was just saying how 51 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: I would never think to take a bath. I take 52 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: showers all the time, and now we're in a place 53 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: that has no bathum, and I was like, I got 54 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: twenty five hours in the day, twenty five because you know, 55 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: it just seems like it goes on forever. Yes, And 56 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: it's like I could be sitting in a tub soaking 57 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: right now, but we just we don't have one. But 58 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: it's like those little things you appreciate, you know, being 59 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: able to do and having the time to do them. Yeah, 60 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: I think that we are well. I can say this 61 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: that I have because I'm spending more time with my family, 62 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: That's who I'm sheltered in place with and my sister, 63 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: like we all haven't been together since we all left 64 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: for college, right, Like, So the idea that you know, 65 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: a hundred years later, because I'm only that we are all, 66 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: that we are all under the same roof is kind 67 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: of wild, but also like a very nice gift to 68 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: be given again because we're My sister lives abroad. You know, 69 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: my parents are busy. My mom runs a yoga studio. 70 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm live in the city. Like everybody's always racing, running, 71 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: and it's very rare except for the holidays, that we 72 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: are slowed down and together. So the past what is 73 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: it eight weeks going on or nine weeks that we've 74 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: been together. It's you know, it's a gift. Do you 75 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: guys eat meals together? We do every night? Yeah, every 76 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: night we have dinner together, making food together. It's yes, 77 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: we're not just in space like we actually are sharing 78 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: time and moments and you know, trying to like enjoy 79 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: this time as much as one can. Yeah, yeah, I 80 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: mean same here. We cook meals together and sit down 81 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: and eat dinner together, you know, not like separate people 82 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: just living in a house together. So I appreciate that 83 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: a lot. It's something that even before this happened, I 84 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: wished I could get people together to do that, like 85 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: say Sunday dinner or something. You know, people just kind 86 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: of come together, bring some wine, some food, sit and 87 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: talk catch up. Because there's something about being in these 88 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: spaces separate all the time, and you get you know, 89 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: you can get very very shut off as is you know, um, 90 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: feeling like, well, nobody's this, nobody's around, nobody's thinking about me, 91 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: Da da da da da. Just you know, you can 92 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: really kind of pull yourself away from people and you know, 93 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: mentally pull yourself away from everybody, and that can you know, 94 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: can have like a negative effect on you. Yeah, and 95 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: you know you grew up well, you were born I 96 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: should say, in Nebraska. Omah, did you grow up there? Yeah, Okay, 97 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: tell me about that experience, because I think oftentime, and 98 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: this is the fault of the media is that when 99 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: we talk about the Midwest, right, the assumption is that 100 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about white people people or covered wagons with 101 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: wagons or you know, rural life and what have you. 102 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, can you share a bit about what it 103 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: was like growing up in Nebraska and making the transition, 104 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, into Hollywood. But what was it like being there? 105 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: In the Midwest, do you know. I mean, I'm from Omaha, 106 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: and from what I know, it's like one of two 107 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: cities where most of the black people are Omaha and 108 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: then Lincoln, which is a college town. It to me, 109 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: I loved it. It was a small city, you know, 110 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: we have I think just under a half a million 111 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: people and yeah, and it's like you can work a 112 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: regular job and actually own a home. At the same time, 113 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: living is not difficult there. Unfortunately, you know, gangs have 114 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: gotten there, which you know, to me, have messed up 115 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: the city and that you know, and that was at 116 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: a certain time when say crack came through. Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, 117 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: it just you know, it really ravaged the city at 118 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: one point. And I think, you know, the city is 119 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: still it's doing well. We actually have a lot of 120 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: millionaires in our city. We have some of the at 121 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: least a handful of the top fortune five hundred companies there. 122 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: So I mean it's a place that gets looked over. Yea. 123 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: But when I think about growing up there, it reminds 124 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: me of like back in the day Sunday movies on TV. 125 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: It was just very simple and easy and it's everything 126 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: that you think of like there's corn there, these guys, 127 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, there's space and people. To me, we're nice, 128 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, and are nice. I really enjoyed growing up there, 129 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: and I mean where I grew up, Like I grew 130 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: up in one area that was I would say more 131 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: mixed um like up until like say second grade, like 132 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: an older neighborhood. And then we moved way out to 133 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere. You know, it seemed where there 134 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: were literally like five model houses and then a house here, 135 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: a house way over there. So it was like you 136 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: could just see green and then the house here and 137 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: here and here, and you know it. That allowed a 138 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: lot of time to just, I guess, dream, just dream 139 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: and create because you're just you know, kids in the 140 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, just sort of living, you know. And 141 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: was the dream always to be a multi hyphenant? Was 142 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: it always to be an actress? No? No, acting had 143 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. I had no idea of acting. 144 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: Idea I'd like to sing, I painted, I wrote. I 145 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: remember in my I think it was like high school, 146 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: like those books you get, you know, what did you 147 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: see yourself doing in five years or whatever? I just 148 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: I do remember saying floating, floating because I had, So 149 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: I was just ready to go, just ready to go. 150 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: And I knew, you know, staying in Nebraska was not 151 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: going to get me to wherever I wanted to go. 152 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: There just wasn't enough happening in the way that I 153 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: needed it to happen or interest there that would fulfill me. 154 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: So I moved to New York. And that's really where 155 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: I've spent all of my years growing up, is in 156 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: New York. And that that fulfilled all of it. You know, 157 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: that alone opens up opportunities. So acting did become something 158 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: that did become a real thing. I moved there to 159 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: be in the fashion business, so I did window. I 160 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: was a buyer, I merchandized. I made clothes for a 161 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: long time. I just you know, you do all kinds 162 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: of things because it's so damn expensive, you know, everything 163 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: you can to make some money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It 164 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: is the hustler city. It's I mean, that's it's one 165 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: of the I recently moved back to New York from Washington, 166 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: d C. About four years ago. But I grew up 167 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: on Long Island, and you know, but it is the 168 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: hustler city. It's where you go if you have drive, 169 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: if you have ambition, like if you have vision and passion. 170 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: To me, it's it is the center of all of that, 171 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: like life just bubbles over it is. But at the 172 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: same time, And this is what's so funny, because it's like, 173 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, when I talk to people in other places, 174 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, you know, I don't think I 175 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: can live there. It's too busy to do. I feel 176 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: like you can always find places and time to just 177 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: be still and just be quiet. I think it's just 178 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: looking at it from the outside because when you're in it, 179 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: trust me, there's a lot of downtime alone time. Many Yeah, yeah, 180 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: that's true. People say, you know, you can be lonely 181 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: in New York surrounded by you know, almost eight million people. Okay, 182 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: like you can, Yeah, you just eat million, you know, 183 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: that's why you said You're like, oh maha, I was like, 184 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: oh about a half half a million. I'm thinking that 185 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: must be nice. So you don't push people off the sidewalk, 186 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: just kidding. We don't even walk right exactly. You drive, 187 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: So tell me how did the acting bug bite you? 188 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: Often when I talk with people who are in your 189 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: line of work, it is interesting to me the adjectives 190 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: that come out and so when you said that you 191 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: wrote in the book floating, I'm like, well, that's kind 192 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: of like floating from one character to the next. That's 193 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: like imagining, like and playing out and acting out a 194 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: whole whole different lives, right. So yeah, it's funny because 195 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: when I think of the floating and knowing how I 196 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: got from one place to the next, I feel, for me, 197 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: it means I'm being guided. I've been guided, and it 198 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: was up to me, Yolanda, just to pay attention to 199 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: signs in front of me. I didn't have any expectations 200 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: in any which way. I wasn't really when I left home. 201 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: You know, I just knew I was going to go 202 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: to school. I didn't have a plan. I didn't have 203 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: this drive to do this thing. I was just open 204 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: to what the world was gonna put in front of 205 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: me without a lot of thought, you know, in that way. 206 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: So getting to New York and you know, seeing what 207 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: there is and doing things and meeting people. I mean 208 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: I got there, I did some music videos, I met 209 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: some people, and then you know, you see these people 210 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: and hang out with them, and the next thing you know, 211 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: you see them like on TV and it's like, wait, 212 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: how did you do that? You know how much money 213 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: does that make? Right? Right? So it's just like I 214 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: was like, okay, so well that's interesting. Well maybe I 215 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: could do that because I like I like creating stuff, 216 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: I like singing, I like entertaining to some degree. But 217 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: I've never acted before, and I did audit in class, 218 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: and my goodness, I am not a class person. That 219 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: was the craziest thing I'd ever You know. I was 220 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: too in my head and too self conscious. And I 221 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: still am self conscious. Like if I had to do, 222 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: say this interview with you in front of people, or 223 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: talk as myself on a stage, oh my gosh, I 224 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: would be soaking wet. Really, But you can be. You 225 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: can be on stage as anyone else in theater or 226 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: anybody or on set with however many hundreds of people 227 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: running around. And that doesn't no, no, it doesn't, it doesn't. 228 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't not affect me in that way because when 229 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: I am working, it's like something about having all the 230 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: people and stuff happening around me, I get very still, 231 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: very still inside, and it's almost like I'm collecting all 232 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: that energy and putting it right here so that when 233 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: action or when I got to go out on the stage, 234 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: it's like bam. You know, all of it comes through me, 235 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: the person, the character is coming through me, and none 236 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: of this is me. You know, you might get a 237 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: little of Yolanda in that because I am the vessel, 238 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: but otherwise, no, it's not me. When I got to 239 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: get up on the stage, like this year, I got 240 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: to uh present at an awards show, and you know, 241 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: as an actor, it's like, yeah, you want to do 242 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: that because it ups your visibility. Yeah, you gotta talk 243 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: what like, oh my god, it was me and Trevor 244 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, oh my gosh, I just but 245 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: I made it okay. So how do you prepare differently 246 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: in presenting said character getting into that character versus preparing 247 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: to be you and presenting because they both require you know, energy, 248 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: like you're saying, to collect that energy and to you know, 249 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: muster that. Well, for Yolanda, it's a lot of calming, 250 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: calming myself inside. I got to cool myself down. The 251 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: heater gets overheated, the nerves start. I gotta calm myself. 252 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: That is my biggest thing. And not rush rush when 253 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: speaking so that you're then messing up words or whatever. 254 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: Just be calm. That is constantly going through my head 255 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: when I have to go and speak. When it comes 256 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: to acting and becoming a character, you've already worked on 257 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: this part, you know, for a while, so you know 258 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: the dialogue, you're getting the things down, You're making sure 259 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: you understand what's happening, Where did this character come from, 260 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: where they're going, what is happening between these two characters, 261 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: what's the space, you know, what is it that they're 262 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: doing actively? And then you you check out all of 263 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: that and then you just let it go and you go. 264 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: So it's it's just a different thing that I absolutely love. 265 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: When you asked about how I got from one to 266 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: the other, It's just like with the fashion business, which 267 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: was what I was in. You know for the longest time, 268 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: I had just got bored. I've gotten tired of it. 269 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: And you know, when I get in that headspace of 270 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: being bored with something, it's not good for me. I know, 271 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: I need to figure out something else because I'm going 272 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: to start messing up whatever it is I'm doing, you know. 273 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: So you know, with the acting, a friend of mine 274 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: that I worked with, she had been doing SNL background 275 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: work SNL and one weekend she was sick, so I asked, 276 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: if yo, can I fill in? I mean, I know, 277 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: it's just a body. Can they use my body instead 278 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: of yours? You know? And they let me you know, um, 279 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 1: and then they kept hiring me back so that then 280 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: I got my union card. And this was before SAG 281 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: and After were together, So okay, after card and then 282 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: I and for folks who don't know what that is, 283 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: can you AFTERRA is a union for It's for radio 284 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: and daytime shows at the time, and nighttime Saturday Night 285 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: Live felt under that, right, And then SAG is for 286 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: the ACA. Yeah, SAG is for theatrical and you know, 287 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: film and television. Now they're together, so I you know, 288 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: back then, I was in the one Got an Agent, 289 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: got my first audition, which was in New York undercover 290 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: and by the way, like that a jam. Yeah, my 291 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: god that I had such a good episode. Evander Holyfield 292 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: was in our episode. Do you remember that one? I'm trying. 293 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, literally, I'm going, oh yeah, I'm somebody said that. Well, 294 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: I love will say I got all my own stereotypes 295 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: out in one character. I was a pregnant crackhead who 296 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: got shot. Damn. That's that's something. That's something you have 297 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: done theater, you have done television, You've done a lot 298 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: of independent films. Do you have a preference. Is it 299 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 1: one or the other or do you just love character 300 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: building regardless of the medium of where the character is. 301 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: I do love character building, but I will say for me, 302 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: my preference is film because I also like, you know, 303 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: as a director, as a creator of content. I like 304 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: all the steps of making a film. I like the 305 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: project being put together. I like going away with a 306 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: group of people making something, and I just like all 307 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: the steps of filmmaking and the time that's allowed for 308 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: it and the specificity that can get into it, you know, 309 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: because you know, with TV it moves faster and it's 310 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: also a machine. So once you set that tone, it 311 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: tends to just go that way throughout the whole thing. 312 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: With a film, you know, that's your you know, three 313 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: or four weeks of that world, and then that world 314 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: is done, and then you go to a new world, 315 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, and see that their bases, you know, what 316 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: makes up that world. So one you can tie a 317 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: bow on and it's like it's done, it's completed, and 318 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: the other one is more so ongoing. Yeah, you have 319 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: a very interesting film that did it premiere? Did Bull 320 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: already premiere? Yeah? Because it was Can it did promote 321 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: premiere last year? Okay, yeah I can. And it was 322 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: supposed to have its US premiere here at south By Southwest, 323 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: but um, you know, everything shut down. But can you 324 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: tell us about Bull because I think that it's again 325 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: really interesting bull fight again stereotypes right, Like, yeah, I 326 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: don't think it was. I don't think of bullfighting or 327 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: you know, riding a bull and the images of black people, 328 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: So can you speak to that? And my family's from Texas, 329 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: My daddy's families from Texas, so my grandpa was in 330 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: the rodeo, you know, and it's like I know that life. 331 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: You know, Nebraska's one thing, but a family from Texas 332 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: that's from a ranch, so you know, I I love 333 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: that part of it. And when that film came to me, 334 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: you know, it was after my part in it isn't huge. 335 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you know, most of 336 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: it was already cast. And Rob Morgan, who plays abe 337 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: lead character in it, he you know, asked me to 338 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: be as X in the movie. So you know, it 339 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: all worked out because we never got to work together 340 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: before and we've known each other for years. So it 341 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: was you know, I jumped at it, you know, just 342 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: because it's a different lifestyle, it's a different way of 343 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: seeing us. Yeah, has not happened exactly, Yeah, exactly, And 344 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: we're out there, We're out there doing it because the 345 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: film is full of people that are not actors. These 346 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: are people that actually do these jobs and live that lifestyle. 347 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: I just think that it's incredible to be able to 348 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: Hollywood always has a way, and I would say evenin 349 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: you know, regular media, journalistic media has one way of 350 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: showing black people, black life, black culture, the black experience. 351 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: And I think that any opportunity to show us and 352 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: essentially what has been whitewashed films, right So, like you 353 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 1: think about Cowboys, and you think about Rodeo, and you 354 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: think about the Midwest, you think, right like, it's almost 355 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: as if we have been trained not to see ourselves 356 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: in these spaces. Well, but we have. We have been 357 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: trained in that way, and it's a training that has 358 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: happened to us forever. You know, we didn't get to 359 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: this point where you know, we do things or find 360 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: value in what white people do or how white people 361 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: do things. We didn't get to this point on our own. 362 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 1: It's been a constant. I don't want to curse, but 363 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: it's just like it's been a constant. It's been a 364 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: constant mind fuck, you know. And that's how I got 365 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: over the whole time, you know what I mean. I 366 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: mean because as of right now, and I just had 367 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: this conversation yesterday with someone else. As far as film, 368 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, as a black woman, you know, I have 369 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: things that I've written that I plan to direct, and 370 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: it's been an uphill battle against people first seeing value 371 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: in your story, you know, because it's about a black 372 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: couple in the arts from the woman's point of view, 373 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: from the black woman's point of view, which is not 374 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: really valued. And then the story is being told in 375 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: a way that's not stereotypical as far as film for us, 376 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: you know, for us. I don't think I would have 377 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: as much pushback if I was a white girl making 378 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: this movie. No, no, I don't, because I mean, just 379 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: to put it out their mirroad story, that's a white 380 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: couple in the theater world. And it was not my 381 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: favorite film in any which way, but it got made 382 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: and it got nominated for a bunch of things. Was 383 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: it The two actors involved and the director. Yeah, those 384 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: names helped it get there, but the story itself. So 385 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 1: then you're saying, because just put mine in that category. 386 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: Myself and Clark Peters are the leads of mine and 387 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: we are both known as far as film and television 388 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: and theater. Would we sell Yeah, I think black people 389 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: would come see us. I do, and have I given 390 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, comps as far as movies in the same 391 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: budget to show what they've made. Yeah, I have, and 392 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: they've all made money, you know. So it's a pushback, 393 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: and it's a pushback from white and black because I 394 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, people are 395 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: looking at who's involved. Will they sell this movie? You know, 396 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: will sells people then sell this to distributors, and you know, 397 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: white salespeople are not looking at us as valuable, you know. 398 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: But I'm like, how many more successful shows, black shows 399 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: and films need to happen? Like do you think you know, 400 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: I only have one or two more questions, But do 401 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: you think that it's a pipeline problem, meaning that there 402 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: are not enough of us that are in sales. There 403 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: are not enough of us in all differing all the 404 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: way down the pipeline, you know, because if you keep expecting. 405 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 1: You know, you can champion a project up to a 406 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: certain point and then leave it to them. It's like, well, 407 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: you know that they don't find as valuable already. They 408 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: already say they don't know how to promote us, So 409 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: what are you expecting to happen? So then this project 410 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: and that project, that project, they just don't get made 411 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: because you don't think they're going to make money. It's 412 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: like somebody's got to have the balls to take a 413 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: thing all the way down you know the line, and 414 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: I feel like we just don't have those kinds of 415 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: producers anymore. And then also just people that will put 416 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: their money with their mouth is all the way down 417 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: the line, you know, take a few and try something different, 418 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: because I mean they put millions and millions and millions 419 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: of dollars, tens of millions into some of these movies 420 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: that don't do anything, whereas you know, you could do 421 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: the same thing and make like five or six movies 422 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: at like two million dollars. Because Yo, we want to 423 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: get projects out there, you know, and people have proven themselves, 424 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: but they don't get the opportunity. You've been in Hollywood 425 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: for a while, you have seen a lot every decade 426 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: or so, we find ourselves talking about a black renaissance. 427 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: We find ourselves seeing, you know, just a handful more 428 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: black shows, a handful more black movies, and you know, 429 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: there is this talk that there is change that is happening. 430 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: And I had the opportunity for the first time to 431 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: go to Sundance in January, and I did a panel 432 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: with a bunch of black producers, writers, directors about the 433 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: changing face of Hollywood and some said that the yes, 434 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: they do feel like it's changing, but others are just like, 435 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, who knows. It's it's up to all of 436 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: us to capitalize on a moment and turn it into 437 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: a movement. What do you think. I think that's exactly right. 438 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: The ladder. I mean, it's definitely opened up, and it's 439 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: opened up because you know, certain people see if they 440 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: can make money off of us. So you know, that's 441 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: just a fact. But there's still so much that needs 442 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: to be done because it's still sort of like those 443 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: chosen few black people who are doing things. You know, 444 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: it's great that they're doing things, but it's still like 445 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: it's a cliquish business. You know, it's a cliqueish business. 446 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: So people in their camps, help each other, help each other, 447 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: you know. And yeah, I mean, and that's just the 448 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, that's just business period. But I feel it's 449 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: good to now get writers, you know, get us on 450 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: that side of it. But we do need we do 451 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: need the other. We need the other the tail end 452 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: of it, Yeah, to get us through the finishing line, 453 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: all the different aspects of the business in order to 454 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: like close the loop. So the last question that I 455 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: always ask folks on PM mood is how do you 456 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: get in the mood to change the world. How do 457 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: you get in the space to create the energy to 458 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: change the world. I feel like I've just live in 459 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: that space. But music, music, music is my is my 460 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: key to everything. You know, I can hear something and 461 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: all of my projects, which I feel have something to 462 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: say for us, all of my projects are for us. Yes, 463 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: So you know, music gets me there and makes me 464 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: create any particular genre as your go to, um no, 465 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean I do love seventies anything, but no, because 466 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: the feel of the people are all different. As far 467 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: as the characters and the worlds, it just sort of 468 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: depends what makes them up and and it's it's so 469 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: amazing when characters start coming through and stories start coming through. 470 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: You know, I feel very privileged to be in this position, 471 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: to be able to write and to create and and 472 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: just get this stuff out there. I want to get 473 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: it out there to y'all. You know, yes, and we 474 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: want it. I know what we want to we do, 475 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: you know, we want to, Yolanda, thank you so much 476 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: for taking the time to join PM Mood. I appreciate 477 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: you so much. No, thank you, Danielle. And enjoy dinner 478 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: with your family and you do the same, and joy 479 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: enjoy the slower pace at this unfortunate time. But yeah, 480 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: the slowdown may be worth all of our while in 481 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: the long run. Yeah, I think it will be. Stay alive, 482 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: stay safe. Thank you, Yes, thank you. 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