1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: Some absolutely stunning remarks made by the Republican nominee for 5 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: president over the weekend, bringing this nation's history of campaign rhetoric, 6 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: even the particular field of harsh attacks, into a whole 7 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: new territory. 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: Joe Biden became mentally impaired. 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: Kamala was born that way, and if you think about it, 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: only a mentally disabled person could have allowed this to 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: happen to our country. 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: Anybody would know this. 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 3: Trump might have actually realized during his Wisconsin speech that 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: he was dragging campaign rhetoric into a whole new place, 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: because he himself commented, quote, this is a dark. 16 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: Speech he did. 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: That was the end of the clip. 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: Yes, he did by Gully. 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 4: So one thing I always like when the lefty media 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: plays a Trump clip that I'm supposed to be disgusted 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 4: by and I end up laughing at and they don't 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: realize that, like half the country thinks it's funny. Well, 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 4: you think it's just the end of democracy, you know, 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: for better or worse. And then the other thing mentioned 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 4: this earlier, I had forgotten until I read the political 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 4: news letter from Mark Alpern today. The Harris Walls ticket 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 4: is easily the most liberal ticket in US history. 28 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: They're so far out of the mainstream. 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: And I had forgotten that because I don't think the 30 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: Trump people are hammering it enough that should be like 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: the only message. I should be so like drenched in 32 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 4: that talking point that I couldn't forget it because it's something. 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: I mean, if you had the. 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 4: Most conservative ticket in US history, you'd be hearing about 35 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: it all the time. 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And while I do Trump, I think Trump is 37 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: funny on one level. 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: When I hear him on lisha line like that, I 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: hear the election being lost. I can't appreciate the humor 40 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: because he's not hammering what he should be hammering. He's 41 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: saying things that are alienating suburban women for no gain. 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: Anybody who's amused by that line of attack on Harris 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: has voted for him since twenty sixteen and will vote 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: for him if he runs at the age of one 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty fifty years from now. 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: So it does nobody any good. 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: It's going to lose the freaking election, and we're going 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: to have more teachers proselytizing toward little boys that they 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: ought to be little girls, and vice versa, and the 50 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: rest of the disgusting rot from the critical theory crowd. 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 4: I doubt Trump's going to live to be one hundred 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: and fifty, but uh, Jimmy Carter lived to be one 53 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: hundred today, oldest living president we've ever had. He'd already 54 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: set that record a couple of years ago, beating John Adams. 55 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: But Jimmy Carter president when I was a kid one 56 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: hundred years old today. Not in the best health, I guess, 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 4: but most people aren't when they're a hundred. 58 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Well, no, it's miraculous he's held on as long as 59 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: he has after his bounce with brain cancer. 60 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 4: A different topic, we've been talking a lot about US 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: officials say Iran is gonna launch a ballistic missile attack 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: against Israel. We know it's coming, it's just a matter 63 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: of when. So that's a heck of an interesting story. 64 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: If you didn't catch our conversation with Mike Lyons about that, 65 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: get the hour three of the podcast to Armstrong and 66 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 4: getting on demand. But a number of people texted this 67 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: Rashashana begins Wednesday night at sundown. I would expect Iran 68 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: to use the opportunity of a major Jewish holiday to 69 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 4: launch an attack they have many times in the past, 70 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 4: because a lot of your Jewish fighters actually followed those 71 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: strict rules, as we learned on October seventh, and weren't 72 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: available to fight back, which seems crazy. 73 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: It is crazy. 74 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 4: And when did you say Rasha Shana starts a number 75 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: of people attack. I don't actually know, but a number 76 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: of people texted that it's sundown tonight, tomorrow night, Wednesday night, 77 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 4: or whenever that hits on that side of a planet. 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: Okay, that'd be an odd thing to lie about. Thank 79 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: you for the information. 80 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: Friends. 81 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a feeling something truly historical maybe about 82 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: to happen. 83 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: Well, a number of truly historical things have happened in 84 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks. But yeah, this could be 85 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 4: a yeah, a big one, really a big one. 86 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: What does the weak, feckless Iran baiting or Biden administration 87 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: save Israel? 88 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: Goes big? 89 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: I've just despised their foreign policy so far, so I'm 90 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: prepared to be angered and disappointed again. 91 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: But who's making the decision? At crunch time. He's not 92 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 4: always okay. Sometimes I think he probably is, but you know, 93 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 4: sometimes he's not well. 94 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: And blinkoln and Sullivan for instance, And I suspect they 95 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: are at the top of the food chain and foreign 96 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: policy they can browbeat or confuse an old man into 97 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: going along with their plans. I'm sure they can. 98 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: Well, I think I based on what I know, I 99 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: think I like Anthony Blincoln's foreign policy better than Joe Biden's. 100 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: So if he's taking the reins and I think that's better. 101 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 102 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: Maybe, speaking of foreign entanglements, Tim Wall's serial resume pattern 103 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: debating JD. Vance tonight, I'm hoping the old coach gets 104 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: sent back to Beijing. He claimed he was in Hong 105 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: Kong during the Tianmen massacre Tienman's Square massacre, and then 106 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: went into China. But now contemporary accounts and newspaper articles 107 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: and pictures say no, he was home in Nebraska. He 108 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: wasn't in China at all during the tian Men Square massacre. 109 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 5: So mind your own damn business. 110 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 4: He didn't go dozens of times like he's been claiming 111 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 4: his whole life to China, which is a weird brag. 112 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: But he did go fifteen times. They think they can. 113 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 4: They they've nailed down, And I don't know. 114 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: He said thirty times repeatedly, So in other words, he 115 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: doubled it for some reason. 116 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 4: I don't care about that so much, I guess. But 117 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: who's old coach football coach in small town Middle America constantly. 118 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: Went to China. I don't know. 119 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 4: I didn't know anybody who'd ever been to China as 120 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: from a small town Midwest school, not. 121 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: One person, let alone. You know, Coach Walls. 122 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: He's going to China again this weekend like he always does. 123 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 4: Poiser loves China, doesn't he? I mean, because fifteen times 124 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 4: is a lot. It's not as many as thirty, but 125 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 4: it's a lot. 126 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 5: Mind your own damn business. 127 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: Why are you constantly in China, Coach? 128 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 5: Mind your own damn business. 129 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: This may or may not bear the bitter fruit of communism. 130 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: Internal DHS group. This is the Department of Homeland Security. 131 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: They have documents on Tim Waltz's China ties, according to 132 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: a whistleblower, and the House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer 133 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: is sending us a pen of the DHS for intelligence 134 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: reports on Waltz's ties to China and records from an 135 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: internal Microsoft teams group chat with information about walls. It's 136 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: sounds like a great whisper campaign to discredit the man. 137 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: There could be fruit there though. I mean, as you 138 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: point out. 139 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: What a good old fashioned Midwestern football coach, regular guy 140 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: going to China every damn chance he gets. Now, it's 141 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: a fascinating place. Maybe he just liked it. 142 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: He talked there for a cup of Chinese tea, herbal. 143 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: Tea he liked really authentic sweet and sour pork. 144 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 1: Or he's got, you know, ties to China. Is what's 145 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: the term a communist agent? 146 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: Nobody knows for sure. 147 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if he if you found a card 148 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 4: in his wallet that said member of the Communist Party, 149 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: it would make any difference. People are going to vote 150 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 4: for Trump or not. And that's the way it's going 151 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: for like ten years. Now. 152 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: Can we stop wasting our time? We probably should. 153 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: I don't think any of the election moves the need 154 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: other than you can Trump or like him or not 155 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: the end. Is there an audience for the debate tonight? 156 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: Yes? 157 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I saw the figures from recent vice presidential debates. 158 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: It'll be tens of millions. 159 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: Wow, so no fact checking and an audience that's an 160 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: opportunity to land some exciting I don't think they're going 161 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: to change the election, but exciting things. I mean where 162 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: you say something in the. 163 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: Crowd ooh or yay, or. 164 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: You know that sort of thing that happens usually stacked 165 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 4: to the benefit of the Democrat, and Walls is pretty 166 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 4: good with that sort of thing. 167 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's capable for sure. JD's sharp though, too. That's 168 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: why I'm kind of looking forward to it. They are 169 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: a couple of pretty skilled pugilists. Yeah. 170 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: I hope Jadvans can come off as smart as opposed 171 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 4: to just mean. 172 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think he will. He's a quick study. 173 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm looking back at at president and vice 174 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: presidential debates past. I mean, come, Harris acquitted herself fine 175 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: with Mike Pence. 176 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 4: Probably didn't change a single boat in America. 177 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: No, and no event involving Mike Pence is going to 178 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: be anything but blandly earnest. I think these two guys 179 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: will exchange blows cool. I just hope hijin Ping calls 180 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: Walls and tells him, hey, I'm down with the socialism stuff, 181 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: but handing out tampons to dudes. 182 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: That's just weird. Do you want to talk about weird? 183 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 2: That's weird. You got to cut it out, man, You 184 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: can give us a bad name. 185 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: You want to talk about weird? Now, that's weird. China 186 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: has got to be thinking that. And most little boys. 187 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: Don't need tampons to him, He had no use for 188 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: him unless they get a bloody nose. 189 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: Then give him one before we take a break. 190 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 4: I came across somebody I want docks just because I 191 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 4: want to know about him. 192 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: Goodness. 193 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 4: Saw this picture in the some publication yesterday with the 194 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 4: headline being Taylor Swift has skipped two Chiefs games in 195 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 4: a row, and there's some speculation that there's trouble in 196 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: the relationship. 197 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: Or whatever, there's a falling out. 198 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: Yes, clearly she's saying that security has become impossible, that 199 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: if it's not a home game, she just can't go that. 200 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 4: I could believe one hundred percent. Yes, that's just become 201 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: such a pain in the ass. Anyway, So the picture 202 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: they had with this unimportant article was somebody holding a 203 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 4: sign that said go Taylor's boyfriend, and it's some youngish woman. 204 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 4: That's fine, But then next to her. You got this 205 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: guy who looks like he's forty eight, looks like just 206 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: a regular guy, could be a long sharman on strike, 207 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: holding a sign that says, where's Taylor? 208 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: I want him? Dust? I want to know what is 209 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: with you? Regular dude? 210 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 4: You took the time to get a giant piece of 211 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 4: white cardboard and all the different colored magic markers so 212 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 4: you could write out where's Taylor with a heart. 213 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: For the A and took to the football game. What 214 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: is your story? 215 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: Man? 216 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: Is he that desperate to be on TV? Is that's 217 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: gotta be it? That's gotta be it. I'll give him 218 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: a tiny pass for it. 219 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: You just, for some reason wanted to be on TV 220 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: because you can't possibly care enough to have raptened this 221 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: sign and gone to the football game. 222 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: And as a grown ass American man, Oh, wouldn't it 223 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: be more dignified to go rob a liquor store without 224 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: a mask on? 225 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: See her face? It beyond evening TV? 226 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 4: Oh, steal lunch money from disabled kids? Come on something 227 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 4: with more dignity than this. 228 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 5: Wow? 229 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: Wow, I just thought it was sad? Got it? 230 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 4: One thing I would not want plastered on the in 231 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 4: the New York Post is me holding a ware's tailor's sign. 232 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: Oh, that reminds me the Babylon b is going just 233 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: absolutely hammer and tongs at Gavin Newsom and the anti 234 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: parody laws that Gavin is trying to get going and 235 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: just begging him for a fight. 236 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 2: Love it, love it, love it cool. We can get 237 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: to that coming up. 238 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: Also, it's the anniversary the thirty year anniversary of a 239 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 4: consequential pop music. 240 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: Album, among other things on the way, stay. 241 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 6: Tuned, Armstrong, Hetty, as though traveling to a whole nother 242 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 6: place and time. 243 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: We recently watched. 244 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 7: Weezer delight a nostalgia crowd at Madison Square Garden, playing 245 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 7: every song in order from its debut album as part 246 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 7: of its Voyage to the Blue Planet tour. 247 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 4: So Weezer is back as nineties nostalgia has hit a 248 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 4: real peak which will last for quite a while with 249 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: I'm old enough to have lived through seventies nostalgia, eighties nostalgia, 250 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 4: and now nineties nostalgia is really really hot thing. But 251 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 4: the Blue Album from Weezer came out thirty years ago 252 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: sold gazillions of copies. 253 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that's not correct. It came out eight years ago. 254 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm not thirty, not thirty. 255 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: They're a new band. 256 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: Jack, They're not a classic rock They're a new band. 257 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: I know. 258 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 4: I was just watching the pretty haired anchor up on 259 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 4: CBS News say that can't be true. He looks to 260 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 4: be about forty eight or something. So this came out 261 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: when he was a high schooler and he is like, 262 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: no freaking. 263 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 2: Way, yeah, buddy, trust me, we know. 264 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 4: Anyway, their tour and doing the whole Blue Album in order, 265 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: which I might take the kids to because they like 266 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: that music and it'd be fun. They look like us 267 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 4: now because they're thirty years older than they used to be. 268 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 4: But it's funny how that goes. Yeah, not much you 269 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 4: can do about that. 270 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: Wow, not really, no Ah. 271 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start with the funny part then get 272 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,479 Speaker 1: into the significant part. 273 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: So the folks at the. 274 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: Babylon b who are a national treasure, have sued Gavy 275 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: Newsome over this new anti misinformation disinformation law, which they're 276 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: characterizing as an anti parody law. But this is one 277 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,239 Speaker 1: of my favorite exhibits. This is from part of the lawsuit. 278 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: It is a photoshopped picture an AI picture of Donald 279 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: Trump making a speech, crowd flags behind him, et cetera. 280 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: And they're right on his shoulder. 281 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: Is Taylor Swift holding a sign that says yay Trump. 282 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: I don't know why it's more funny that it says 283 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: Trump and not Trump, but it says yay Trump, implying 284 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: that in fact. 285 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: It may actually say on the illustration. 286 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: Oh, no, Taylor Swift has endorsed Donald Trump in this 287 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: new real photo from a campaign to dad. 288 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: Oh, they just wanted to make it one extra level 289 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 4: of ridiculous. 290 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah. 291 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: And one of the actual little paragraphs in the suit 292 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: says it is likewise unclear if the digitally altered image below, 293 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: which depicts Taylor Swift endorsing Donald Trump, violates AB twenty 294 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: eight thirty nine or ABE twenty six fifty five by 295 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: harming a candidate's quote electoral prospects, undermining quote confidence in 296 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: the election, or violating some other clause, because that's the 297 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: verbiage in the law. So dumb, yeah, but's so brilliant. 298 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: Does the official want to attack it in that way? 299 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: Does the official ad from Kamala Harris in which they 300 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 4: play an truncated clip of Donald Trump saying blood in 301 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: the streets? How does that not meet this definition? That's 302 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: misleading to the point of damaging a candidate. That's that's 303 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: from the official Harris campaign. That's that some crazy meme 304 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: or AI right right, it's absolutely true. Yeah. 305 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: The Babylon BFI lawsuit Monday challenging California's anti satire laws, 306 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: saying Gov. Gav is trying to take the fun out 307 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: of politics. One law for bids posting or sharing online 308 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: deceptive content that harms the candidate's electoral prospects ahead of 309 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: an election, while in other social media companies to police 310 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: their platforms for anything that would run a foul of 311 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: the new standard. Those who want to practice political satire 312 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: must attach a sort of product warning label, which the 313 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: visas effectively destroys the point of the satire. 314 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: Jack, I think you have single handedly won the case. 315 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: Did you? 316 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: Are you trying, Gavin Newsom to outlaw deceptive political ads? 317 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: Hum, I'll be darned what. It's so idiotic. 318 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: I feel unmotivated to try to refute it. It's are 319 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: you kidding? They must just think, well, all right, we're 320 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: going to pass this. It'll confuse or frighten people into 321 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: holding back through this election cycle. Then, in the style 322 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden, the courts will say what you're doing 323 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: is blatantly unconstitutional and evil. You're gonna stop today, and 324 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: you'll have done what you set out to do. You'll 325 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: have influenced an election cycle. 326 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: Gotden living in California where you got the prop system 327 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 4: and all the misleading prop ads and titles and everything 328 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 4: around it? 329 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: Are you kidding? 330 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 331 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: Show me some California politics that isn't dishonest. 332 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 4: You like the Manning cast thing right where Eli and 333 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 4: Peyton watch a football game and you listen to them 334 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: talking about it. 335 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Monday night football. 336 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 5: So Trump? 337 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: So Trump announced he's going to do a similar thing 338 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: for the debate tonight. Oh no, He's going to do 339 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: a personal play by play coverage of the debate in 340 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 4: real time. 341 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: Oh all right, one more thing to record? Ah God, 342 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 1: can it get any more of sir? 343 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: E Wow? 344 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: So Jack, I'm just going to dive into this. I'm 345 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: still giggling about Yay Trump. By the way, the fake 346 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift endorsement. The Babylon b is suing Gavy Newsom 347 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: over his flamingly anti First Amendment anti parody launch. One 348 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard. But I'm just 349 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna read some of this from Tom Ferriless. 350 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: He's a journalist. 351 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: He follows immigration and budgets and that sort of thing, 352 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: and jump in any time you want, interrupt, anytime you want. 353 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: All of us who are of grown age, little gray 354 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: hair whatever, we've been around, have been listening to the 355 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: dishonesty around the illegal immigration discussion now for decades, and 356 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: there is new serious, in depth research on the budgetary 357 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: effect of immigration, legal and especially illegal, because there's so 358 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: much illegal immigration. 359 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: You remember the first the first like spin lie that 360 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 4: I remember of around illegal immigration. 361 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: Was do you want a tomato to cost ten dollars? 362 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 8: Oh? 363 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, love, as if there's just no way to have 364 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: tomatoes on earth unless you have illegal immigration. 365 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: And I think back, yeah, who's going to pick your lettuce? 366 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: I think we are just in California at that point 367 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: as a show. And our answer was always somebody or 368 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: nobody or a machine. It'll be fine, We'll go let 369 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: us free. I'll grow my own. There's no reason I 370 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: open up the damn border. What kind of argument is that? 371 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 5: Man? 372 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: People have soft heads? Anyway? 373 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: Among the benefits, economists often say immigration brings to aging 374 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: Western countries is a healthier public purse. Having more immigrants 375 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: expands to the supply of young, productive workers to pay 376 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: the taxes that finance the pensions and healthcare of the elderly, 377 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: the argument goes. New research shows the fiscal impact of 378 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: immigration is not that simple. The fiscal benefits are clear 379 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: for high skilled immigrants, but less so and possibly even 380 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: negative for the lower skilled. According to some studies. This 381 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: is one of those studies of very thorough to be sure, 382 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: fiscal effects aren't the only consideration the current debate over immigration. 383 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: Other factors include the role of immigrants in reliving or 384 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: relieving labor shortages. 385 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: Who's gonna dismember your chickens? You want chickens to be 386 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 2: a million. 387 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: Bucksna dismember your chickens. That's what they do, right, Yeah, Yeah, 388 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: that's the reality. 389 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 4: That's a fun job. That's what you do with your 390 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: humanities degree. I just remember, chickens. Leg goes this way, 391 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 4: the head goes the other. 392 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: Let's see also countering population decline, which is back to 393 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: propping up the social services or altering the existing character 394 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: of the communities where they settle. 395 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: We're allowed to talk about that now. Oh, I thought 396 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 2: you were a. 397 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: Racist if you said, have the kids speak Spanish at 398 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: the schools, and the schools can't teach anymore. Funny how 399 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: those things change, isn't it? When I don't know, Martha's 400 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: vineyard gets here with a bunch of illegals. 401 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: Plus they got my cat on a barbecue. 402 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: Nonetheless, the fiscal effects have drawn more attention as migration 403 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: reaches record levels in the US in Europe, a plurality 404 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: of US voters, forty four percent believe immigrants make the 405 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: tax situation worse. Eighteen percent believe they make it better. Wow, 406 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: which is really. 407 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: Interesting in that. 408 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: And it's funny that polls they always give, you know, 409 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: forty four percent believe this, but they don't mention. Only 410 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: eighteen percent believe otherwise. Right, And there are what would 411 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: that be thirty eight percent who either don't know or 412 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: undecided or said good, jail off my lawn. That's from 413 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: Gallup in fact and aggregate the recent surgeon, immigrants will 414 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: reduce the federal deficit. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 415 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: it's mostly your higher skilled migrants have a bigger effect 416 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: than lower skilled migrants, although it said an increase in 417 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: less educated workers would also trigger stronger wage growth for 418 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: more edud people needed to work with them, So it's 419 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: very very imbalanced. 420 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 4: Huh. 421 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: Low skilled immigrants, many claiming asylum, make up an unusually 422 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: large share of recent arrivals on both sides of the Atlantic, 423 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: and the CBO didn't estimate the impact of the surge 424 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: on state and local budgets hello, but said it expected. 425 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: Those costs to outweigh the revenues. 426 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 4: Ah, Okay, that's where yeah, right. 427 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean, because you look at the way local and 428 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: state coffers are filled. There are plenty of states with 429 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: significant income taxes, I guess, and theoretically even low skilled 430 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: immigrants who are not working for under the table wages 431 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: would be supporting that. But they're not paying property taxes, 432 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: and in many cases they are working under the table 433 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: so they're not paying payroll taxes. But anyway, yeah, it 434 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: hammers the states and local guys. And then, to make 435 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: it even more complicated, regardless of background, people, what they 436 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: pay in taxes and consuming government services varies over their 437 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: life time. Before adulthood, they benefit from education, health services 438 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: because they're not working and paying taxes. Once they enter 439 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: the workforce, they start contributing more in taxes, and then 440 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: they consuming state services, and as they retire, they stop earning, 441 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: draw heavily on government benefits and consume more health care 442 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: and more healthcare and social welfare. So it's a bit 443 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: of both, depends if you're talking state or local or federal. 444 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: And one interesting aspect of this is if you agree 445 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: and you have to that it takes multiple young workers 446 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: to support a single retiree, particularly given the sky high 447 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: cost of medical care. We've just imported eleven million, mostly young, 448 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: low skilled people who will not be much of a tax. 449 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: Burden for a while. 450 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: When that eleven million are old, we got to import 451 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: another thirty million. 452 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead. 453 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 4: I want to jump in with the breaking news. Iran 454 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 4: has started their attack on Israel or ready, oh boy, 455 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: two and forty missiles at four targets. I'm just reading 456 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: the up on the television. 457 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: It's just out of curiosity. 458 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: If we've waited ten seconds to get to that news, 459 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't that have altered the fabric of. 460 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: This is a pretty big deal? 461 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 4: Though, This is a pretty big deal. Iran launches retaliatory 462 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 4: missile strikes in response to Israel attack. And we've been 463 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 4: talking about it since we came on the air this morning. 464 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 4: White House officials saying ballistic missiles they're expecting. And we 465 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 4: talked to Mike Lions earlier, who really thinks we're gonna 466 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: get drawn into it. I'm looking at the video right now, 467 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 4: and it is. If you've ever seen the Iron Dome 468 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 4: when it's doing its thing, it's quite the it's quite 469 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 4: the fireworks show. And that's what they're showing right now 470 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 4: on the television, the Iron Dome not actually being a 471 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 4: dome made of iron. It's over Israel. It's just the 472 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 4: idea that you've got dis missile defense system that can 473 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 4: intercept practically anything coming its way, and they all explode 474 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 4: up in the sky, so it looks like a fireworks show. 475 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: It's a metaphree, you see. 476 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, let me get to the right channel, Michael, then 477 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 4: maybe we can just bring that up because I would 478 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind hearing a little bit that some of 479 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 4: them are landing. You say, Anton, look like they're getting 480 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 4: through WHI channe am I on there? Okay, ABC, can 481 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 4: you bring up the audio on ABC? I'd like to 482 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 4: hear a little bit of this. Ian panels. There a 483 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 4: lot of lights. 484 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 8: In the air. 485 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 9: Now, what's unclear is whether these are ballistic missiles. We 486 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 9: believe Iran has fired over one hundred ballistic missiles. We 487 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 9: certainly know that the Iron Dome and other air defenses 488 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 9: are in operation. 489 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 2: And this is happening right as we speak. 490 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 9: A nationwide emergency alert to all Israelis to shelter all 491 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 9: our colleagues, people with friends and family are all hiding 492 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 9: now basically in bunkers, many people in their homes. They 493 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 9: have to kind of makeshift shelters, and everyone is now underground. 494 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 9: This came shortly after a terrorist attack in Israel. We're 495 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 9: told that this is possibly the first of four wave 496 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 9: of attacks. Now this is almost If the two hundred 497 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 9: and fifty figure is right, that's almost double the size 498 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 9: of the attack that took place in April, remember Iran 499 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 9: attacking At that time, we suspected that there would be attacked, But. 500 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: This is significantly larger. 501 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 9: Israel has warned all of its citizens to take all precautions. 502 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so we will keep our eye on that 503 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 4: significantly larger attack than the one back in April, which 504 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 4: was described as most people as a very large attack. 505 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: How in the world does Ian panel for all of 506 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: his awesome skills as a reporter and digger for fact, 507 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: how does he know that they're expecting four waves? 508 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 4: I don't know. That's is that some of the information 509 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 4: that's coming out of the White House, Because it started 510 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 4: with unnamed sources from the White House saying we know 511 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 4: Iran is about to attack, which turned out to be 512 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 4: what was that two hours before the attack began. 513 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: And a senior White House official said the US would 514 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: help defend Israel and warned that direct attack against Israel, quote, 515 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: we'll carry severe consequences for Iran. But what does that 516 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: mean with the Biden administration? Are you going to sanction 517 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: their t cozy industry or. 518 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 4: Well, the severe sanctions might come from the Israeli military 519 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 4: because they are very well armed. 520 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, overalls over Jerusalem, over one hundred ballistic missiles, and 521 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if they shot them all down. 522 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 4: We probably won't know for a while if what got through. Man, uh, 523 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 4: this could be uh. Joe earlier said if you didn't 524 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 4: hear it, that this could be some serious history. You're 525 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 4: making stuff happening over the next twenty four hours. 526 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 2: Certainly eight is going to take on a new tone tonight. 527 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: The veeps. 528 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I like Vance's Oh that one looked like 529 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: it got through Looking at Tel Aviv, I like Vance's 530 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 4: chances better in this debate in terms of public opinion 531 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 4: being on his side depending on what Walls says. 532 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: How afraid is Walls of appearing too hard on the 533 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: the Arab folks for his coalition there in Detroit? How 534 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: cautious will he be a Kamala has been much more 535 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: forthcoming with support for Israel lately. I think they've figured 536 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: out they were doing themselves more harm than good. 537 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, she always does, though she always does the having 538 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 4: nobody ever has a follow up, so she always gets 539 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 4: away with having completely one hundred and eighty degree apart responses. 540 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 4: Israel has the right to defend itself when we support 541 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 4: Israel and everything they do, but a ceasefire must happen. Now, 542 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 4: oh wait a second, you kind of jerk my head 543 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 4: around there. 544 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 8: What. 545 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're defending themselves by fighting Hesba law. So yeah, 546 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: it's nonsensical. They're trying to have it both ways. It's 547 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: just dopey politics. 548 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll try to dig up any latest information on 549 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 4: this from a print media and that sort of thing, 550 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 4: and we'll be back in a little bit and stay here. 551 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: We are in uncharted territory. 552 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 8: But we can just tell you that tonight Israel is 553 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 8: under attack from Iran. Multiple ballistic missiles, up to one hundred, 554 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 8: according to initial reports, were just fired at this country. 555 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is happening as we are on the air. 556 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: Maybe you're catching this later, but this is how it's 557 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: beginning a massive attack on Israel. This is an act 558 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 4: of war, says the Open Source Intelligence. 559 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: Twitter feed. 560 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 4: And also they retweet Jim Skuto of CNN missile or 561 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 4: missile fragment impacts downtown Tel Aviv with a picture, so 562 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 4: at least something got through the Iron Dome. Martha Ratt 563 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 4: it's up on ABC, said if there are any people 564 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 4: heard or killed, or any major infrastructure damage, Israel is 565 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 4: going to respond heavily. The voice thought, as interesting that. 566 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 4: You know, the big Kui can swing hit me and 567 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 4: swing at me and swing at me. As long as 568 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 4: he misses, I keep it cool. But if he actually 569 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,239 Speaker 4: hits me, even though he's trying to hit me, then 570 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: I retaliated. I don't quite get that. 571 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: I think that era is over for Israel. 572 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: They indicated it with the way they took out Hezbolah 573 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: using capabilities they've had for a long time, but I 574 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: haven't used. 575 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: I think we're going to see a very different scene today. 576 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 4: This started with White House officials saying in an attack 577 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: from Iran was imminent. Turned out they were completely right, 578 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 4: and we asked Mike Lyons about that earlier in the 579 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 4: show and we thought his response was interesting. 580 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 10: I'm going to be a little cycle here and this 581 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 10: is sounding like an Israeli idf op. Why would the 582 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 10: White House announce this? Why I'm not following this on 583 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 10: some level, Why would the Why would they come out 584 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 10: and say the level of attack is going to be that? 585 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 4: Why? 586 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 10: I just don't understand it. It's almost to the point 587 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 10: are they trying to Maybe they're prepping forces there, but 588 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 10: this is something that they should be somewhat silent about. 589 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 10: Is this a back channel to Iran? 590 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: You know? 591 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 10: The senior wide of official I'm looking at the Waalster 592 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 10: Journal article says a direct military tax from Rand against 593 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 10: Israel will carry severe consequences for RAND. So I think 594 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 10: that's what that's what this is. It's that level of 595 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 10: messaging and now we're now hip deep in it. If 596 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 10: we know this is going on, if this is what's 597 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 10: what's happening here, this is what we're past the point 598 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 10: of something that we're able to get out of here peacefully. 599 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 10: This is not good on a lot of different levels. 600 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 10: And I'm just really concerned that the United States decided 601 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 10: to make this statement here. It might be true, it 602 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 10: might not be true, but why the United States would 603 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 10: put this out to me seems like something that Israel 604 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 10: would wanted us to do, and I'm just not getting it. 605 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: I think Mike Ashley touched upon the answer in his 606 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: speculation as Just moments ago, the New York Times White 607 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: House correspondent said President by Vice President Harris held a 608 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: meeting this morning with national security officials quote to discuss 609 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: Iranian plans to imminently launch a significant ballistic missile attack 610 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: against Israel. They reviewed US plans to help Israel defend 611 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: against the attacks and protect Americans in the region. So 612 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: I think they put out the announcement just to give 613 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: everybody military and civilian a heads up that hey, it's coming. 614 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 4: So looking at Open Source Intelligence again, it's a website 615 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 4: that's followed by I mean everybody who is in Buddy 616 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 4: Jennifer Griffin and Mike Lyons and all those people. So 617 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 4: they obviously believe this site for information and they get 618 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 4: it oftentimes. First, US officials state that Israel quote absolutely retaliate, 619 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 4: will retaliate directly against Iran. So US officials say Israel 620 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 4: is going to directly retaliate against Iran. 621 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: That's one. 622 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 4: The other thing is between so far between two hundred 623 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 4: and fifty and three hundred ballistic missiles been launched against 624 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 4: Israel by ir And so this is gonna be some 625 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 4: story to follow in. Like Joe said earlier, it's gonna 626 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 4: be a big part of the debate. 627 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: Probably tonight almost finished. 628 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 5: Let's get ready. 629 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 2: Final thoughts with Armstrong and Gety. Here's your host for 630 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: final thoughts, Joe Getty. 631 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew. 632 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: Michaelangelo are technical director, will lead the day. Michael, final thought. 633 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: You know, I'm hoping for tonight at least briefly. 634 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 8: Maybe for a moment of comedy, they bring out Jim 635 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 8: Gaffigan as uh, you know, as Waltz. 636 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: Just have him do a couple of lines at the podium. 637 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: That would be odd. Katie Green has got the day off. 638 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 4: Jack a final thought for us, Yeah, well, there's a 639 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 4: chance this is gonna spiral into one history making couple 640 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 4: of days or weeks or months or years, depending on 641 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 4: how things go today. We'll keep our eye on it 642 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 4: and have all the latest tomorrow. 643 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: Our final thought, Trump is so flawed, so terribly flawed. 644 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: But when it. 645 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: Comes to deterring evil doers, mister I'm crazier than you 646 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 1: is much much more appealing than ms. 647 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: Let's not escalate. 648 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 4: So you got reports of people who have been shot 649 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 4: in the Israeli city of Jaffa. Could be completely unrelated, 650 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: could be part of the plan. 651 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: Well, given that Iran's proxies are busy in the region. 652 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: As we've been discussing for a very long time, the 653 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 1: word went out, Hey, when the missiles start coming, starts shooting. 654 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 4: Wow, Armstrong in Getty rap I got another grueling for 655 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 4: our workday. 656 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 2: So many people think, so little time. 657 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: Go to armstrong a getty dot com a lot of 658 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: good clicks for you. Join us tomorrow. We will bring 659 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: you the highlights and low lights of a the history 660 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 1: making more and the exciting vice presidential debate. 661 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: See tomorrow. God bless America. I'm strong and Getty. 662 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 7: This has to stop, and it has to stop like 663 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 7: the day before yesterday. 664 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: It is a painful moment we get that. Yeah, absolutely, 665 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: are you sure? Oh dead sure, so let's go with 666 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: a bang. 667 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 4: He had an odd haircut throughout most of his career too. 668 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 4: He had a haircut of like a bowl haircut, the 669 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 4: Prince Valiant. 670 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Christ Jenner right right, At least Pete stated, dude, 671 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: anyway 672 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 5: Thanks you all very much, Armstrong and Getty