1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: The media has brought bought into this industry, canard this 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: mythology that we're Jesus anymore autism because we're noticing it more, 6 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: we're better recognizing it, or there's been changing diagnostic criteria. 7 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: There is study after study in the scientific literature going 8 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: back decades it says that's not true. 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: In fact, California. 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: Legislator in twenty thirteen asked the Mind Institute of you 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: See Davis to look exactly at that topic. They said, 12 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: is it real or we justn't noticing it more? And 13 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: the Mind Institute came back and said, absolutely, this is 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: a real epidemic. 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: This is something we've never seen before. 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: It occurs to me something I was saying the other 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: day about this to researchers I know who work at 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: the Mind to Institute that he was quoting right there 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: where people somebody brought it up. 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: We were at dinner. 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 3: The idea, well, they just they just it's always been around, 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: just noticing more and they got like angry at that suggestion. 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: You know, I just feel like intuitively, I mean, I've 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: known lots of families my whole life, as you have, 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 3: and they didn't all have one kid who has clearly. 26 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: Had a certain thing. Right. Yeah, Yeah, it's undeniable that 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: diagnosis and awareness have increased. But as I said the 28 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: other day, is that five percent of their eyes fifty 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: percent of it? How much? I agree completely? And if 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: there were a shadow of a doubt as to whether 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: it's on the increased autism and related problems, yeah, it's 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: it's a humanitarian crisis that ought to be an enormously 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: high priority in my opinion. Anyway, a couple of things 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: on the way this hour. We'll try to squeez him 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: in this hour. If not, we'll you know, do one 36 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: in hour four. Partly because it's Friday and night. Just 37 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: don't feel like substance all day long. Just let's have 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: a little fun. Number One, Science has come up with 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: the formula for having the perfect day. 40 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: Okay, perfect, I'm gonna write this down. 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. You don't need to think about it, 42 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: you don't need to meditate, pray. 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: Science will tell you how to have the perfect day 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 3: before you go to work or before you go to 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: bed somewhere. 46 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: Yes, well it's funny they don't touch on that. And 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: also a list of some of them fairly recently declassified 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: unbelievable operations the CIA has carried out through the years 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: just for fun. You've heard of Castro's exploding cigar plays. 50 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: That's just the beginning. All sorts of good stuff. But first, 51 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: before your dessert, perhaps a delicious marshmallow peep. So we're 52 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: discussing last hour. You you it's a delicious treat and 53 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: it's Easter Jack. Anyway, Oh, I. 54 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: Heard that tone of voice, like I'm not being reverent 55 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: toward the Lord and Savior if I don't like beeps. 56 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: That makes sense? 57 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Is that what you took from my tone? I'm so sorry. Anyway, 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: I wanted to get through this just because I found 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: it so enlightening and interesting, and I think you will too. 60 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: Talking about Medicaid just just briefly, and I came across 61 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: this headline, the six hundred billion dollar Medicaid maneuver on 62 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: the chopping block. Republican budget cutters are are looking at 63 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: cutting this and this is interesting in itself, but it 64 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: also points out how so many of these gigantic government 65 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: expenditures are built to be exploited in ways we and 66 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: the public never hear about, or the super smart people 67 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: figure out how to exploit them in ways that were 68 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: never intended. Here you go. An obscure set of state 69 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: taxes on hospitals and other health providers is in the 70 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: crosshairs of congressional budget cutters because it can lead to 71 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: higher federal spending on Medicaid. It's they're known as provider taxes. 72 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: States impose them on hospitals, nursing homes, and other facilities 73 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: that provide healthcare. The taxes boost the state's budget for 74 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: funding Medicaid, and then they spend it on Medicaid, which 75 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: in turn attracts more matching federal dollars to fund the program, 76 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: money that is ultimately directed back to the hospitals and clinics. 77 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: So it's like this perpetual motion taxation and grant machine 78 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: so that they can artificially inflate spending so they can 79 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: spend more and the hospitals and clinics get it back anyway. 80 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: But it's the taxpayers who end up paying for this loaded, 81 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, steroid fed spending. 82 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: As I've said many times, I would like to run 83 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: an experiment where I lived my life over and starting it. 84 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: Like the age of eighteen out of high school. I 85 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: just dedicated my life to trying to figure out how 86 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: to gain the system to get tax payer mooney. 87 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of people that do that. 88 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: There's so much money sloshing around, there's so many opportunities 89 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 3: to figure out a way to get chunks of that. 90 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and putting aside except for this brief mention, the 91 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: fact that our entire healthcare system is built on lies 92 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: and fraud, in that the compensation rates for doctors and 93 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: hospitals and all for Medicaid patients and Medicare patients and 94 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: are artificially crazy low because politically they don't want to 95 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: raise taxes enough to actually pay for this, So people 96 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: with private insurance or paying cash pay exorbitant rates for 97 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: healthcare to support the government scam. Anyway, that's enough of that. 98 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: The state governors and legislators despise this idea because hospitals 99 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: often ten to get back more in payments than they 100 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: shelled out for the original tax, which shows up their 101 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: ability to care for Medicaid patients who normally they'd say, 102 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: we're not seeing these people and getting paid eleven cents 103 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: on the dollar to treat their broken lag or whatever. 104 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: And then the governor say, well, wait, wait, wait, how 105 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: about this backchannel of funds will tax you and then 106 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: give you back a dollar thirty for every dollar in 107 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: tax you pay. So anyway, not to you know, borrior, 108 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: make your head spin. But all of this stuff is 109 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: just so so corrupt. Where there's money slashing around, there 110 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: is corruption. But that's kind of just lead up to 111 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: this story. The moral case for reforming medicare. This is 112 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: from the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal. Republicans 113 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: in Congress are they passed the budget outline last week. 114 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: That's an ongoing fight, will be for a long time. 115 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: We haven't talked much about it, but I wanted to 116 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: mention this. It's a once in a generation chance to 117 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: reform the government, but it will be squandered if the 118 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: GOP shrinks from difficult policy fights. Exhibit A is Medicaid, 119 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: the fast growing entitlement that now spends more than eight 120 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty billion dollars a year while delivering subpar 121 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: healthcare for the poor. And the left in the press 122 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: are trying to intimidate the GOP from addressing the program's failures, 123 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: saying that they're trying to cut it and get rid 124 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: of it, and people will die in the streets. Now, 125 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: medic I'm paraphrasing. 126 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: Medicaid is the one that studies have shown you have 127 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: worse outcomes than if you didn't get involved at all. 128 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, some studies have showed that. Yeah, But Republicans can 129 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: win the medicaid argument if they understand how the program 130 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: has gone wrong and make the case, make their case 131 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: in the moral terms it deserves. Here's here's the important part. 132 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: New research and pulling on Medicaid work requirements help to 133 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: clarify the stakes. More than six in ten able bodied 134 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: adults on Medicaid reported no earned income, according to report 135 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: from the Foundation for Government Accountability of think tank, and 136 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: six and ten able bodied adults on Medicaid get no income. 137 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: Voters tend to think of Medicaid as a safety net 138 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: for low income, pregnant women and disabled Americans, which is 139 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: how it started. 140 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not been that for so long, as our 141 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: friend Craig has pointed out over and over again. It's 142 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: amazing its reputation lives on for its original intended purpose. 143 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: But Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act expanded the program into 144 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: a permanent titlement for childless men in prime working age. Wow. 145 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: Also worth mention a news seeking loser. 146 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: I want this message to reach those of you who 147 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: are able bodied and don't work and live off the government. 148 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: You. 149 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 3: I despise you. You're pathetic. You should be ashamed of yourself. 150 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: All your friends should be ashamed of you. Nobody should 151 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: be friends with you. 152 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: Wow. That's very judgmental. 153 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: Damn right it is. We need more shame. You should 154 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: be ashamed of the fact that you live off people 155 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: that go to work. Can I get memen shame or 156 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: a shame? Yes, thank you, thank you shame bell lady. 157 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: Also worth mentioning that Gaviy Newsom of cal Unicorny is 158 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: desperately trying to borrow billions of dollars to pay for 159 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: the state's callicade or whatever it's called, because he has 160 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: extended so many billions of dollars of care to illegal immigrants. 161 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: Remember Joe Wilson when Barack Obama said this will not 162 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: go to pay for illegal immigrants. Wilson said, you lie, 163 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: which may have been inappropriate and rude at the time. 164 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: What was true. He was absolutely right. Anyway, Democrats claim 165 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: those on Medicaid or working, you'll hear statistics like this 166 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: one from the Kaiser Family Foundation. Ninety two percent of 167 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: able bodied medicaid adults under age sixty five worked fuller, 168 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: part time, or were indisposed for a good reason, such 169 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: as caring for a relative or attending school. But that 170 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: figure is derived from government survey data, which are self 171 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: reported and rely on sample sizes as small as a 172 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: few dozen people FGA. The think tank I studied earlier, 173 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: by contrast, obtained administrative records from state medicaid agencies in 174 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: twenty three states a far more complete picture of earnings 175 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: for nearly twenty one million able bodied adults on Medicaid. 176 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: It found that millions are declining to work at all, 177 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: which of course is terrible for the country economically, culturally, 178 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: in all sorts of ways, Democrats invariably paint this ordering 179 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: Americans back to work is indentured servitude unfair. But the 180 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: GOP's proposed Medicaid work requirements back in twenty twenty three 181 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: were extremely modest twenty hours a week, which could include 182 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: training for a job or volunteering at your local library. 183 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: Just do something or and Democrats portray that as some 184 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: sort of you were sending them into the salt mines 185 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: to be whipped. 186 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 3: Right, And you probably only need to claim that you're 187 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: volunteering at the library, don't need to actually show up 188 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: and doing you volunteering. 189 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: So and and Republicans, by the way, and their cruel 190 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: plan offered exemptions for nearly anyone with applausible reason, pregnant, 191 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: have children, caring for an incapacitated relative, You're exempt. Got 192 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: a doctor's note saying you're unfit for exempt, you're enrolled 193 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: in school, getting help for drug or alcohol abuse, Okay, 194 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: you're exempt. That was the cruel Draconian. 195 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: Are so much more socialists than people realize. It reminds 196 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 3: me of when I couldn't couldn't get any childcare. None 197 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: of these people that I would, you know, contact on 198 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: these various websites to try to connect you with people 199 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 3: who want to be sitters. They would never never call 200 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: me back or show up or whatever. And somebody explained 201 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 3: to me, how, no, no, no, no, that those sites are 202 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: for you can show that you're making the effort to 203 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: look for a job so you can stay on your 204 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 3: government benefits because they actually are going to. 205 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: Take the job. Yeah, oh wow. So coming up Science 206 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: tells you how to have the perfect day and wacky 207 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: CIA schemes through his I guarantee you will be amused 208 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: and amazed. 209 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 3: And one of my favorite headlines I've seen recently, do 210 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 3: you know child star Hailey Joe Osmond? He was a 211 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: kid from six cents who said I See dead people. 212 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: He had a rough week, good headline for the New 213 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 3: York Post. 214 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: Stay tuned. 215 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 4: Thanks to massive new proposed budget cuts and Health and 216 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: Human Services, the FDA may have to stop routine inspections 217 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: at food facilities, so look out for exciting new products 218 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 4: like Tyson's tangy buffalo beaks and thumbs. Yeah enough sauce, 219 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: you'll never. 220 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 3: Know bees and thumb thumbs chicken thumbs. Do you know 221 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: who Hailey Joel Osmond Is? 222 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: I'd heard name. 223 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: I knew was somebody when I saw the picture. Oh yeah, 224 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: so he was the kid in the sixth cent Sense 225 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: with Bruce Willis. He's a little kid says I See 226 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: dead people. So he's a child star. Child stars have 227 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 3: a history of their lives not going that well. It's 228 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 3: a shocking to Joe and I and always has been 229 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: that people continue to try to get their kids to 230 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: become stars, even though like ninety five percent of the 231 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 3: time they end up in jailer dead like at a 232 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 3: young age, no. 233 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: Matter no matter what is offered, no matter how it 234 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: gratifies your ego or the child's don't don't don't, which 235 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: I used to think was primarily the whole. 236 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: Being rich and famous things such a you know, a 237 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: swirl of ugliness to get caught into. That was before 238 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 3: Harvey Weinstein, and you know, we realize the underbelly of Hollywood. 239 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: I mean it's worse than that. I mean, you don't 240 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 3: need to just throw money and fame at a kid 241 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: to have their lives be ruined. 242 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: They're surrounded by awful, awful people their whole lives. 243 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: They're going to abuse them. 244 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: Add some attention and flattery to that and becoming addicted 245 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: to the attention with even without the molesters and all. 246 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: It's just it's a terrible idea. 247 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: Haley Joel Osmond I see Dead People's now thirty seven 248 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 3: years old, and he had a rough goal of it 249 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: at the ski slopes Mammoth Lakes where I've been in California. 250 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 3: The other day This is not a good headline, Haley. 251 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: Joel Osmond hurls Jewish slurs at cops, almost loses pants 252 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: and arrest video. 253 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: I hate to almost lose your pants while hurling, you know, 254 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: anti Semitic slurs at law enforcement. 255 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: Almost loses pants? 256 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: How does that happen? 257 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: He called an officer an anti Semitic slur and a 258 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: Nazi while he was being arrested for public intoxication, which 259 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: I kind of assumed that. Yeah, anti Semitic slurt and Nazi. 260 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. 261 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: You gotta pick one. 262 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, confusing, really confusing. You get you to have a 263 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: theme and you gotta stick with you gotta build a narrative. 264 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: You're not building a narrative here, although Jews across America 265 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: have kind of getten used to this. You're the Nazis 266 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: further Israel. 267 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: So you had assumed the intoxication, Yeah, yeah, I assume 268 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: that was a factor. 269 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 270 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: He was taken into police custody at Lakes, California, after 271 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: law enforcement received a call shortly before two pm for 272 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: an alleged intoxicated person at Mammoth Mountain Resort. Now, I'm 273 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: guessing you have to be pretty darn intoxicated for somebody 274 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: called the cops on you at a ski resort because 275 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: there are quite a few people there that are drunk, uh, 276 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: you know, late late morning, early afternoon at a. 277 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: Indoor stoned or whatever. Yes, that was the plan. That's 278 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: why we're here, That's. 279 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: Why I went. 280 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 281 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: In body Cambridge bodycam footage, which The New York Post 282 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: has looked at, Osmond called a police officer an antivis 283 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: Semitic slur and a Nazi. As we mentioned, at one 284 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: point he shouted, I've been kidnapped by an effing Nazi. 285 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: He also claimed he was what a night merce scenario. 286 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: I mean, not only have you been abducted against your will, 287 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: but it turns out to be a member of the 288 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: National Socialist Party. He's perpetrated the crime. 289 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: What a nightmare scenario in a beautiful afternoon. He also 290 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: claimed he was being attacked and accused officers of torturing me. 291 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: In the video, Ozma was her telling police you're effing 292 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: with my life. Is also caught on camera saying officers, 293 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 3: you'll wish you treated me nicer, which is a. 294 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: Version of do you know who I am? I see 295 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: people which. 296 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: Were big fans of you're gonna see a lawyer soon, 297 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: so you'll wish you treated me nicer. I'm a former 298 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: child star, don't you know? 299 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: That? Is what he's sort of saying. 300 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: I was decent to you, and you're effing you're an 301 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: effing kike. 302 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: It looks like is what he said. Yes, yes, terrible, 303 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm an old timey Jewish s Yeah, hard to imagine 304 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: thinking that was appropriate in this scenario. And calling him 305 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: a Nazi again, but again, if you're being abducted by 306 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: national socialists, you're gonna be rattled. You're gonna say things 307 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: you don't mean. 308 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: Anyway, He's apologized and is embarrassed by his behavior, and 309 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: he is looking at going to rehab and all the 310 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: things that these sorts of people always do to try 311 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: to get out of trouble with very expensive lawyers. 312 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: Probably well, I wish him well. I hope he gets 313 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: clean and has a long, happy life. Again, almost lost 314 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: his pants, didn't lose his pants? Almost lost his pants? 315 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: How to have the perfect day, according to Science and 316 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: the CIA's Wild History. Next half hour, don't miss it, 317 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty. 318 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 3: What's the proper thing to say? I want to say? 319 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: The proper thing do you say happy good Friday. 320 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: I do not. I never have. 321 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: I think, even like very solid Christians say happy good Friday. 322 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: Don't. Oh yeah I don't. I'm just saying I don't 323 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: and take you know, quite in contrast to the completely phony. 324 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: If I'm offended, I'm right culture of universities. I've always 325 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: believed in Hey, if somebody means it as a kind 326 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: and friendly greeting, take it that way. Sure of course, Yeah, 327 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: it was the day that Jesus was tortured to death 328 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: on the cross and killed. But yeah, if somebody says 329 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: happy good Friday, take it in the spirit it's intended. 330 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: I just tend not to. But anyway, best wishes and 331 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: a most respectful good Friday and Easter weekend to all 332 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: of our friends. So how to have a perfect day 333 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: according to science? I just I wanted to mention this 334 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: real quickly. Had a conversation yesterday, actually had a couple 335 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: in a row last couple of days with a young man. 336 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: Brief bit of background, My sweet wife and I are 337 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: expanding our back patio, so we have some screened in 338 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: place to hang out when the bugs are bad and 339 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: it's we're on a gentle slope and so it's kind 340 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: of high off the ground and it's supported by bricks. 341 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: It's a brick house anyway, and so there's got to 342 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: be a pretty substantial foundation poard to support all the 343 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: bricks and cinder blocks and stuff to build up to 344 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: the level of the patio anyway. So the foundation people 345 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: have been in our backyard now for several days doing 346 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: what they do, which includes digging rather a deep ditch 347 00:18:54,359 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: and then this incredibly complex web of rebar bent to 348 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: custom shapes and then cinder blocks in a particular pattern. 349 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: And I've been asking the guys the foreman because oddly enough, Jack, 350 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: a number of the fellows involved don't speak English, but uh, 351 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: the foreman Yeah, I know, it's crazy, but the foreman do. 352 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: And French exactly. They're all Frenchmen. They're all working like crazy, 353 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: and they're berets, smoking their smelly cigarettes. It's wonderful to watch. 354 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 3: And they're tight striped shirts like Pablo exactly. 355 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: Anyway. But No, in talking to these guys, it is 356 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: absolutely striking a how much they like what they do, 357 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: and b because I'm fascinated by it, and I think 358 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: they like that they're proud of what they do. Absolutely 359 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: they're very bright, very conscientious, and and and actually kind 360 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: of charming too because they're so you know, enthusiastic about 361 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: what they do and want to do a good job 362 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: and pick your own path in life. And everybody needs to. 363 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: And I don't judge anybody who does. You know, what 364 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: they think is right, as long as you know you 365 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: don't hurt anybody. But the idea that those guys are 366 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: somehow lesser than somebody with some dopey degree who's in 367 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: a cubicle doing something that makes them miserable is practically 368 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: obscene to me. To look down on those guys, Well, 369 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: it's obscene and it's just flat wrong. Even even if 370 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: that's not your thing. Different people like different things. It's 371 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: funny you bring this up. I got angry listening to 372 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: a podcast here day. I was listening to Jonah Goldberg 373 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: of The Dispatch. Maybe you see him on CNN now 374 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: and then, but he grew up in New York, so 375 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: he doesn't have this point of view. But he was. 376 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: He was talking about manufacturing jobs coming back and everything 377 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 3: like that, and it became very clear to me, as 378 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 3: a guy who's lived the way he's lived, he doesn't 379 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: know there are lots of people who would hang themselves 380 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: if they had to live in New York City. I 381 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 3: know tons of people who would rather be dead than 382 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: live the rest of their lives in a place like 383 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: New York City. And he just didn't seem to grasp it. Now, 384 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: there are a lot of people that want to live 385 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 3: in a rural, cold place and work outside. They prefer that, 386 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 3: Like everybody I grew up with prefers that. And you know, 387 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: a lot of your elite can't imagine that that's true, 388 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 3: and so they think it's just horrible that somebody is 389 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: doing certain kind of jobs in certain kind of places. 390 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: That's meaning to me. Yeah, yeah, So anyway, tip of 391 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: the cap to all you fellows and gals who do 392 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. And you're certainly respected around here. 393 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: So this is really an interesting story. 394 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: So much better for the country if we could break 395 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 3: out of that, so much better for the country. 396 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. The whole university mill of. 397 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: And it gets more expensive, and then the kids come 398 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: out and they don't have anything to do anyway, and. 399 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: Just the whole thing it's like a scam designed to 400 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: make zillions of dollars. Huh. Anyway, and again the judgment 401 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: of good, hardworking people is what makes me angry anyway. 402 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: Ah so, how to have the perfect day? How what 403 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: if you could engineer the perfect day, not by luck 404 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: or with crystals, but actual science. That's exactly right. The 405 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: University of British Columbia analyzed data from the American Time 406 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: Use Survey, which recorded how thousands of people spent their 407 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: time across more than one hundred activities. By comparing these 408 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: patterns with whether participants rated their day is better than typical, 409 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: they were able to pinpoint the building blocks of an 410 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: exceptionally good day. 411 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 3: Okay, now we're searching the I'm guessing most people are 412 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: like me. They're thinking right now, what would be my 413 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: perfect day. 414 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: This is not some sort of mountaintop. I'm with a 415 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: guru in a Paul sipping Margarita's and I have sex 416 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: with a supermodel. It's not that sort of thing. It's 417 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: a formula for having a great day or the BD 418 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: the best day ever. And I'm gonna get to the 419 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: end of this and you're gonna yell at me saying 420 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: I can't don't have time for that. You're yelling at science. 421 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: I represent science for the next two minutes. 422 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: Are you gonna yell at science. 423 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: Right exactly, that would make you a maniac. Here it 424 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: is the best day ever. And we will repost this 425 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: under hot links at armstrong and giddy dot com today 426 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: so you can find it. Six hours with family plus 427 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: two hours with friends, one and a half hours of 428 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: extra socializing. Wow, so you start? Would you like to 429 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: start yelling? Now? This is a lot of time with 430 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: other people? Keeping in mind these things can overlap. Two 431 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: hours of exercise to all it physical physical activity, one 432 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: hour of eating and drinking, and less than six hours 433 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: of work, indulging in only one hour of screen time, 434 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: and at most of fifteen minute commute. 435 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: That is happiness right there, the commute, I buy. 436 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: Man. 437 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: First of all, there aren't very many people who live 438 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: a day like that, right yeah, And just the exercise alone, 439 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: there are very many people who exercise. 440 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: Two hours a day. Sure again, you know, I think 441 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: they would include taking a walk with one of the 442 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: fforementioned friends or family members, that sort of thing. Catchyard. 443 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 3: I'm more of a loner than the average person, so 444 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: that's too much time. 445 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: With other people for me. But that doesn't mean that's right. 446 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: And the gall wrote the follow up article to this 447 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: is a single gas without family in her city, and 448 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: so yeah, obviously spending six hours of family, it's going 449 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: to be difficult. But you know, if you boiled it 450 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: down and again, we'll post this so you can look 451 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: at it again, it's about Pee Paul in the person. 452 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. I easily spend six 453 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: hours with family every day, just the way my life 454 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 3: is structured. So I'm thinking it would be cool if 455 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 3: like a fit bit or an Apple Watch or something 456 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: like that could give you, at the end of the 457 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 3: day how you spent your day, as opposed to just 458 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 3: you know, steps and an average heart rate or whatever. I'll 459 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: bet it'd be pretty depressing if you got to the 460 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: end of like a month, do a whole month, and 461 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: like you spent an average of two hours a day 462 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: staring at your phone, you spent an hour watching TV 463 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 3: that you weren't really that interested in, a sporting of 464 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: it you don't care about, or a TV show you 465 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 3: don't even really like, you spent this many hours in 466 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: your car and traffic, you spent this many hours you 467 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: know whatever. I'll bet it'd be pretty damn depressed. 468 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the readout on me would be you 469 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: spent X number of hours trying to motivate yourself to 470 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: do the things you really care about, right, which is sad. 471 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: I remember one of the best things you've ever brought us, 472 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: I think it was you brought us this is the 473 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: idea that your priorities are what you do, not what 474 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: you say they are. That's a good one. Yeah. Ooh, sobering, 475 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: and it's Friday. I don't want to be sober. So 476 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: coming up unbelievable operations the CIA actually carried out since 477 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: its birth. 478 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 3: You spent four hours last month trying to get the 479 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: password to work that sort of thing. 480 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: Oh, very depressed. Yeah, it's an angering and maybe, but 481 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: honestly it might make you reorder your life absolutely absolutely. Yeah, 482 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: that's good stuff. 483 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 3: Okay, how about you? What's your perfect day? Text line 484 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: four one five, two nine five KFTC. Take on some 485 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 3: of your texts, son, what would be the perfect day? 486 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 3: Joe just ran down scientifically what the perfect day is 487 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: and maybe we'll talk about that in our four. So 488 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 3: our text line four one, five, two nine five KFTC. 489 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 3: If you don't get our four, get the podcast Armstrong 490 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 3: and Getty on demand. I had maybe my least favorite 491 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 3: thing that can happen in any given day. Last night 492 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: is when you can't stop coughing and you're trying to 493 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: go to sleep, and you just got that never ending 494 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 3: like tickle on the back of your throat, just like 495 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: you just feel like one more cough and you'll be done. 496 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: But you just and it lasted to like two am miserable. 497 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: Oh I hate that. You gotta have that that in medicine. 498 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: I recommended to you that the has a cough suppressant 499 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: in it. The only way I'd survived those things. Anyway, 500 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: I can't I can never remember the name of it anyway, 501 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: So this is absolutely crazy. Some of this stuff is 502 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: fairly recently declassified. Some of it's been known for a while, 503 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: but it's examples of some of the CIA's most audation 504 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: missions since it was formed in the twentieth century, in 505 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: the fifties in particular, and you may have heard some 506 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: of these. Some of them are new. This. You know, 507 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: you don't start the show with the show stopper, but this, 508 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: this is probably better off as the punchline. In the 509 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties, the CIA dropped millions of anti communist pamphlets 510 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: from weather balloons flying over the Soviet controlled part of Europe, 511 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: but there was an idea that they worked to develop. 512 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: They drew up a plan to also have packets of 513 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: extra large condoms dropped on Communist nations, but the extra 514 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: large condoms would be labeled small or medium. The strategy 515 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: was to lower the morale of male citizens by suggesting 516 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: that they were physically inferior to their well endowed Western counterpart. 517 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: This is not true. Those are somebody's idea and we 518 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 3: actually did it. No, it never came to fruition, but 519 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 3: it was game planned out. 520 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: There are records. 521 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that seems dumb. 522 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: I wish I had somehow found my way into that 523 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: line of work, dreaming up ridiculous plots for the CIA 524 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: to consider. How about this one, much more recent, The 525 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: CIA once hatched a plan to make an Osama Bin 526 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: laden action figure to distribute to children in the Middle East. 527 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: But here's the deal. When the action figure was exposed 528 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: to the sun, the face would peel off to reveal 529 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: a demon like character with red skin, green eyes, and 530 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: black markings, who accidentally bears an uncanny resemblance to Star 531 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: Wars character Darth Maul, which is neither here nor there. 532 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: And they actually made several prototypes before it was reject 533 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: did uh you know, to be implemented. 534 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 3: So you're playing with your Osama bin Laden Kendall. You're 535 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 3: out in the sun and all of a sudden he 536 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 3: looks like a red skull from the Avengers movies. 537 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, and it freaks you out and you think 538 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: he's the devil, and you do something and then you're. 539 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 3: Up with invading Iraq or something something. 540 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: That's probably where the plant the plan went to side 541 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: base with. What then, Jim, what are the kids going 542 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: to do that? 543 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 3: I'm trying to stay Osamas like us, play it out 544 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: for me here, and what happens that? 545 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: Well, you know, they like think Osama's the devil? Okay, 546 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: all right, so they actually created three they think three 547 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: individual action figures prototypes. Oh what, I'd love to have 548 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: one of those. Yeah. Yeah, And honestly, it when his 549 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: face melts off. I'm looking at the picture right now. 550 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: It it pretty much just he looks like he's in 551 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: some sort of death metal band or something like that. 552 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how the average you know, I don't 553 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: know Iraqi kid would take that. Here, here's another good one. 554 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: We're back in between the sheets. From nineteen forty five 555 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: till approximately well sometime in the seventies, the CIA ran 556 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: covert operations targeting foreign leaders who were either openly with 557 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: the Communists or leaning that way. There have been various viruses, 558 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: exploding cigars, other spry thriller type antics. President Akamed Sukarno 559 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: of Indonesia accused the US of trying to destroy him 560 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: for a sympathy toward Communism with a CIA produced porno 561 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: film that was referred to as Happy Days, which purported 562 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: to show Sakarno in this is a quote ecstatic sexual 563 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: congress with a woman, although the person involved was actually 564 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: an American performer in a mask. And as I read this, 565 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: I thought, what I bet everybody's thinking right now, How 566 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: easy would that be to do right now? With Ai? 567 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: It's effortless. Yeah. The CIA's plan was to circulate film 568 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: pretending it had been secretly made by the KGB in 569 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: the course of a visit by Sukarno to the Soviet Union. 570 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: Like the other stuff, I don't think it was implemented. Oh, 571 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: the plan backfired. So Kara was actually impressed with how 572 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: he was depicted in the film because it showed him 573 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: leaving his Russian girl partner a glow with fulfillment is 574 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: the quote. And he reportedly ordered this distribution throughout Indonesia. 575 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 3: Because it made him look good. 576 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: Gotcha, Yeah, yeah, all right, we have time for a 577 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: couple more. I like this one, if only because it's 578 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: a great name for a band. Remote controlled dogs. The 579 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: CIA created remote control dogs by operating on their brains 580 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: during a bizarre nineteen sixty three mind control experiment. According 581 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: to recently declassified documents, researchers implanted a device in I 582 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: had six dogs skulls and used a remote control to 583 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: guide them through an open field. Oh wow, the pooches 584 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: could be made to run, turn, and stop for real 585 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: as the scientists, yeah, zap the reward centers of their 586 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: brains with electrical currents. According to CIA papers published in 587 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five, I'm actually mildly surprised that we had 588 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: that sort of capability to that extent in nineteen sixty five. 589 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure it did not do the dogs any good, 590 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: but quote. The specific game of the research program was 591 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: to examine the feasibility of controlling the behavior of a 592 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: dog in an open field by means of remotely stimulated 593 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: electrical stimulation, et cetera. They eventually abandoned those experiments. 594 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to torture dogs, but some of these 595 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: it'd be pretty fun to have that be your job, 596 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 3: coming up with wacky ideas and putting together protects and whatnot. 597 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Now you've probably heard about the CIA's brainwashing 598 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: experiments during the fifties and sixties, experimenting with techniques designed 599 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: to make a person kill someone then have no recollection afterward. 600 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: Codinated mk ULTRA, the program involved some one hundred and 601 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: forty nine separate experiments, many on unwitting Americans who had 602 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: not consented to being guinea pigs, including a Kentucky mental 603 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: patient who was dosed with LSD for one hundred and 604 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: seventy nine days straight. Wow. That's horrible, utterly, utterly unforgivable. 605 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: It was officially launched this program to develop better interrogation techniques, 606 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: as well as to explore the possibility of creating a 607 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: programmable assassin. Let's see. Many of the documents pertaining to 608 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: this mission mk ULTRA were destroyed in nineteen seventy three 609 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 1: on the CIA's order. Some survived and were revealed later 610 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: that decade. 611 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 3: That was leading up to the Church Commission. That's what 612 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 3: they're trying to avoid there. If you know anything about that, 613 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 3: google it. 614 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: Yikes. Yeah, And they go into a bunch of detail 615 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: on that one and experimentations with psychics and that. 616 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 3: Flat out human guinea pigs. You're using human guinea pigs 617 00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: against their will. 618 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, that's exactly what it was. 619 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: Wow, that is something I don't have to. 620 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: Really ended with the condoms, and not that this thing, 621 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: the super giant condoms to make them. 622 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 3: I haven't a schmoll schwunstucka compared to the American 623 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm so depressed right Therefore, I'm gonna fund Armstrong and 624 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: Getty