Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jet Katie and he.
Speaker 3: Sure button than you, buddy, live a from studio scene,
Speaker 3: a dimly lit room, give them the bowels of the
Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty Communications Compound and hate y'all.
Speaker 2: Today we are under the tutelage of our general manager,
Speaker 2: Donald J.
Speaker 1: Trump, the decider in chief.
Speaker 2: He's our general manager. That's a heavy gun, you don't.
Speaker 2: You don't do that very often? Do it with your
Speaker 2: serious voice too, which kind of frightened me. Thanks, all right,
Speaker 2: I did, Jack, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the most.
Speaker 2: Impactful decision of his term his presidency is.
Speaker 1: Life whether to hammer iron? Quite possibly.
Speaker 2: I was looking at the headline of the Weekly World News,
Speaker 2: which is a newsletter I look at every single morning
Speaker 2: when I wake up, and said, the world holds its
Speaker 2: breadth for Trump's a weekly world news.
Speaker 1: Are you sure? The wide world of news? I think?
Speaker 1: Is what I say.
Speaker 2: A weekly World News generally reports on the bat boy
Speaker 2: in space, alien autopsies.
Speaker 1: To go to during these serious times.
Speaker 2: The first thing I read every single day, I want
Speaker 2: to know if they figured out the moon landing or
Speaker 2: a variety of other things. Uh. Yeah, so it hasn't
Speaker 2: happened yet. For all the Trump's a madman talk for
Speaker 2: so many years by a certain crowds, he is a
Speaker 2: very deliberate person when it comes to this sort of thing,
Speaker 2: so it would seem and a manager of a tumultuous
Speaker 2: coalition as well, which we will discuss. Does Iran pose
Speaker 2: a threat to the United States? A new pull out
Speaker 2: from Fox, which is a very respected polling organization, and
Speaker 2: it's about seventy five twenty five Yes.
Speaker 1: Those three quarters of people yes, which is interesting. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I suppose ultimately I'd end up there, but I don't
Speaker 2: personally feel threatened by our end today. But long term,
Speaker 2: I hate the idea of them getting a bomb. I
Speaker 2: think it's worth going to war to keep them from
Speaker 2: get a bomb. Well, they and their proxies have certainly
Speaker 2: killed a prodigious number of Americans and damaged our stuff
Speaker 2: many many times through the years. The isolationist wing of
Speaker 2: the Republican Party might reply, well, you know, stick closer
Speaker 2: to home and that wouldn't happen. I have it to disagree,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm looking at a map of our assets
Speaker 2: in the Middle East. Right now, we've got more aircraft
Speaker 2: carriers and destroyers and planes and everything gathered in that
Speaker 2: areas the most we've had since March of two thousand
Speaker 2: and three when we invaded Iraq. So I mean we
Speaker 2: are really geared up for things to go crazy. They
Speaker 2: do purely defensive or positioning forces for something more specific
Speaker 2: and offensive. Well, if I had to bet money question,
Speaker 2: I would think we're absolutely going to go offensive here
Speaker 2: at any point in the next couple of days. But
Speaker 2: I took in a number of podcasts yesterday with experts
Speaker 2: on the whole where things could go wrong, if, if
Speaker 2: things spiral, where it would be, and a lot of
Speaker 2: it is the devolving into civil war. I mean what
Speaker 2: we've been talking about. If the if the leader goes
Speaker 2: who's in charge, and whoever's running the army might say
Speaker 2: I'm in charge, But then whoever's running, you know, the
Speaker 2: Revolutionary Guard or whatever the wing of military might say no,
Speaker 2: you're not, I'm in charge, and various people gather behind them,
Speaker 2: and the next thing you know, you got a full
Speaker 2: on civil war. And then also religious breaks down by
Speaker 2: those and then the idea of it's spilling into a rack,
Speaker 2: which is not particularly stable, and there's a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of people that are half. A lot of the country
Speaker 2: in Iraq is half Iran already anyway, but a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of it is not, and then just that becoming
Speaker 2: a whole, big, giant cauldron of mess.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The question of identity looms huge obviously in the Middle East,
Speaker 2: because a lot of those Iraqis quote unquote you're referring
Speaker 2: to don't see themselves as Iraqis at all. They see
Speaker 2: themselves as Shia Muslims, for instance, and probably more specifically
Speaker 2: this offshoot of Shia Islam. That is who I am,
Speaker 2: and by God, I'm willing to die for it. But
Speaker 2: is that worse than letting Iran get a bomb? That's
Speaker 2: the whole.
Speaker 1: Thing is, is.
Speaker 2: That that would be awful if that happens, and we
Speaker 2: have a giant civil war spreading across two giant countries
Speaker 2: in the Middle East and all kinds of refugees headed
Speaker 2: it into other countries in Europe and wherever.
Speaker 1: But is that worse than Iran getting a bomb? I
Speaker 1: don't think so.
Speaker 2: One interesting perspective on that question comes from India, which
Speaker 2: had a chance to knock out Pakistan's you know, nascent
Speaker 2: nuclear program back in the day and didn't do it,
Speaker 2: and now a lot of Indians believe they're suffering death
Speaker 2: from a thousand cuts. Is militant groups from Pakistan constantly
Speaker 2: attack Indian It's people and they can't do a lot
Speaker 2: about it because Pakistan has nukes, right. So anyway, so
Speaker 2: we got a lot of information on that whole thing,
Speaker 2: and I took in the entire Tucker Carlson Ted Cruz
Speaker 2: interview throughout the afternoon eating last night because it's like
Speaker 2: two hours long, and it took a while to get
Speaker 2: through it, and news quite damned interesting.
Speaker 1: I thought, was the whole thing is fever pitched? Is
Speaker 1: that clip we played yesterday?
Speaker 2: Well, if the whole thing was, you'd have to know,
Speaker 2: I don't think you'd listen to it. You know, you
Speaker 2: drag him off of each other. Well, you can't stay
Speaker 2: at eleven. I mean that that does. But it was
Speaker 2: it was something. I mean, it got Tucker. It would
Speaker 2: be hard to sit there with Tucker and talk to
Speaker 2: him about something you disagree with him about for two
Speaker 2: hours because Ted Cruz had kept saying, could you be
Speaker 2: a little less condescending in your replies, so we can
Speaker 2: have a conversation. Could you stop being so snarky every
Speaker 2: time I say something? I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 2: many times he said that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, As I said yesterday, I joked that I could
Speaker 2: give a class on arguing unfairly.
Speaker 1: Tucker would be the president of the university. Yeah, he is.
Speaker 2: One of the most amazingly skilled. He is to arguing
Speaker 2: on fairly what Ornette Coleman was to blowing into a horn.
Speaker 2: I mean he is an artist. Yeah, he really is,
Speaker 2: he really is. I was studying his technique. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: try to do it later this morning. I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: Joe say something you could say practically anything, and then
Speaker 2: I will try to do a Tucker carls an impersonation
Speaker 2: of how you respond when somebody says them. It'd be
Speaker 2: a good way if you want to get out of
Speaker 2: your marriage, this would be a good way to do it.
Speaker 2: Learn to argue out here to make someone hate you, Yes,
Speaker 2: by arguing Tucker Carlson's style.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely is that.
Speaker 2: And and at one time, I mean he made one
Speaker 2: time Tucker did apologize where Ted Cruse said, So there,
Speaker 2: there you go with that laugh.
Speaker 1: You're famous for that laugh.
Speaker 2: So you just you go with the dismissive laugh and
Speaker 2: then and Tucker said, you know what, you know what,
Speaker 2: You're right about that. I sincerely apologize for that. It's
Speaker 2: a it's a bad habit I have. I shouldn't have
Speaker 2: done that. That was inappropriate. Wow, exposing something resembling a soul? Yes,
Speaker 2: how to blow up your marriage or your relationship with
Speaker 2: your boss by arguing Tucker Carlson style. We'll get to
Speaker 2: that a little bit later. The one thing I did
Speaker 2: figure out, though, it's fine. Ian Bremmer tweeted out that
Speaker 2: he had watched the whole thing and he said, you
Speaker 2: will learn nothing from about the world from this. And
Speaker 2: I responded to Ian, I said, yeah, Ian, but I
Speaker 2: learned a lot about this division between the Bucker world
Speaker 2: and the rest of MAGA, like a lot by watching that,
Speaker 2: which seems to be a topic that a lot of
Speaker 2: the media seem is pretty damned interested in. I finally
Speaker 2: understand better the woke right thing. Tucker brought it back.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many times to the I walk
Speaker 2: past people dying on the street every day, and we're
Speaker 2: worried about Ukraine. I step over people who are dying
Speaker 2: from drug overdises on the way to you know, my
Speaker 2: car and the parking lot, and we care more about
Speaker 2: Israel than that. The amount of time he spent worried
Speaker 2: about drug addicts on the street, that's the woke, right,
Speaker 2: I guess, because I don't understand concerns in general. I think, well,
Speaker 2: why do you keep using that example like five times?
Speaker 2: Because people die? That's dramatic.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I worry about drug addicts on the street only in
Speaker 2: the fact that it interrupts my life so much, uh,
Speaker 2: and they steal from me.
Speaker 1: I worry about that.
Speaker 2: Other than that, I don't know what government policy that
Speaker 2: could be enacted if we spent less time defending Israel.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what that would be.
Speaker 2: Right today, at Tucker Carlson University will be studying the
Speaker 2: false choice. What the hell are you going to do
Speaker 2: about all the drug addicts out there who decide to
Speaker 2: use the fentanyl and the new myth that's worse than
Speaker 2: the old meth that ruins your brain? What the hell
Speaker 2: is that you're blaming that on our on the government
Speaker 2: and society. I just don't get that. Oh, and or
Speaker 2: implying that the only way to free up funds for
Speaker 2: whatever you have in mind, or mind to share for
Speaker 2: whatever you have in mind. Is to not support our allies.
Speaker 2: It's just a terrible false traths.
Speaker 1: We know in.
Speaker 2: California we have spent so much money on the drug
Speaker 2: addicts on the street, which they call the homeless problem.
Speaker 1: Just an incredible.
Speaker 2: Amount of money, right, and with more drug addicts on
Speaker 2: the street. So Tucker acting like or the woke, right,
Speaker 2: I guess, acting like there's there's a simple solution to
Speaker 2: all the drug addicts on the street, and that was
Speaker 2: caused by our government's focus on other countries to start with,
Speaker 2: and the government could fix that if they would just
Speaker 2: spend some money on it. What are you talking about? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that made me nuts. That's beyond a false choice to me.
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I don't even know what you're
Speaker 2: talking about. I wish Ted cruzould have pushed back harder
Speaker 2: on that. But anyway, I want to get into that later.
Speaker 2: The how to argue, like Tucker, and seriously, you want
Speaker 2: to end your marriage, learn it. You could do it today,
Speaker 2: You could do it this evening at the dinner table.
Speaker 2: You make him or her hate you for the rest
Speaker 2: of your life. Yeah, I I'm fascinated by the question
Speaker 2: of what he actually, Tucker actually believes. I know, if
Speaker 2: I were a shill for Putin, and I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that I know he is, he just acts like one
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: I would make all sorts of arguments.
Speaker 2: About why it is good and decent and moral not
Speaker 2: to back Ukraine, for instance, or not to back Israel.
Speaker 2: And the one we've been describing is that would convince
Speaker 2: a certain percentage of people. And yeah, craft other arguments
Speaker 2: to sway other people.
Speaker 1: It's a bad argument. Well it's logically, it's it's a
Speaker 1: hout of cards.
Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter to me what one Tucker Carlson
Speaker 2: thinks are why, But it does matter to me And
Speaker 2: the fact that he has a lot of sway over
Speaker 2: a ton of people, including a lot of you, that
Speaker 2: I don't quite get. So that's what I was looking
Speaker 2: to understand. Oh exactly. I think I was trying to
Speaker 2: imply that certainly, yeaheah, let's start the show. Officially, I'm
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Speaker 1: Here we go at Mark.
Speaker 2: By the way, Tucker, it's a very weird thing, the
Speaker 2: obsession with Israel.
Speaker 1: Well, we're talking about for it.
Speaker 2: You're not talking about Chinese, you're not talking about Japanesian,
Speaker 2: not talking about the Brits, you're not talking about the French.
Speaker 1: The question what about the Jews? What about the Jews?
Speaker 1: I'm an tay semi now, Senator, you're just and uestion.
Speaker 2: You're asking why are the Jews controlling our foreign policy?
Speaker 1: What you just asked?
Speaker 2: And so Tucker for the next hour and a half
Speaker 2: kept saying, you called me an anti Semite.
Speaker 1: No I didn't, Yes, you did a lot of that beautiful.
Speaker 2: Well, we read a letter from somebody of a very
Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson esque bent yesterday that was flamingly proudly anti Semitic.
Speaker 2: The rest of that, by the way, we'll play it later,
Speaker 2: is you're calling me an anti Semite and you know it.
Speaker 2: Ted Crew says, no, I'm not, and Tucker says, you
Speaker 2: did it in a sleezy, feline way, and you should
Speaker 2: be ashamed of yourself. So then the rest of the
Speaker 2: the rest of the argument, Ted Cruz keeps coming back,
Speaker 2: going back to you called me a sleezy feline, A
Speaker 2: sleezy feline.
Speaker 1: Wow, which is quite an insult.
Speaker 2: Wow, everybody, calm down, back to your corners. Okay, we
Speaker 2: got Katie's headlines, we got mail bag, we got other
Speaker 2: news of the day. I hope you can stick around.
Speaker 2: On the East Coast, there was that trial with that
Speaker 2: woman with her husband, the cop who died, and she
Speaker 2: was accused of being blamed for it, and she got acquitted.
Speaker 1: Washington with SUV.
Speaker 2: There's a crowd outside the courtroom cheering like crazy, and
Speaker 2: the news ever, ABC News and everybody had it last night.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know a thing about it. So did
Speaker 2: I miss out on a major trial? Is it an
Speaker 2: East Coast thing? It's certainly hotter there as it was
Speaker 2: the Boston area, right right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually played golf with guy from the Boston area yesterday,
Speaker 2: oddly enough, and he's been following the trial and asked me,
Speaker 2: with the excitement, are you following this all night? It's unbelievable, right.
Speaker 2: Apparently in the Northeast it was just like it was.
Speaker 2: You know, it's one of those big trials that everybody
Speaker 2: follows and talks about. And it didn't spread across the
Speaker 2: country because I don't know anybody who brought it up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so maybe I we'll hit on that later. Let's jump
Speaker 2: right into the headlines. What it's the lead story with
Speaker 2: Katie Green. Katie hit it well.
Speaker 4: Starting with Axios, Trump presses aids on whether bunker buster
Speaker 4: plan to bomb Iran will work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a multiple days in a row where
Speaker 2: he's been meeting with the National Security Council and talking
Speaker 2: all the experts, and I guess, according to Axios, he
Speaker 2: really grilled him on the hay, is this whole bunker
Speaker 2: buster thing going to work like we claim it's going to?
Speaker 1: So he is being very deliberate, and he active.
Speaker 2: The White House actively leaked, obviously the fact that he
Speaker 2: had approved the attack plan but was waiting.
Speaker 1: To see if the ayatolas would come around. Give him
Speaker 1: one more chance.
Speaker 4: From the Associated Press, United States says foreign students seeking
Speaker 4: visas must unlock all social media accounts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're America hating zealots, you can't come.
Speaker 1: That seems perfectly reasonable.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine some sort of virulent anti French government,
Speaker 2: American saying, come on, you gotta let me study in Paris.
Speaker 2: They said, no, we don't want you. We got enough trouble.
Speaker 4: Perfectly reasonable from the New York Times, fed seas higher
Speaker 4: inflation and lower growth ahead.
Speaker 2: Higher inflation and lower goes. I don't like that. What
Speaker 2: I don't think that good? Katie, No, bring me bad
Speaker 2: news for for ESPN.
Speaker 4: Los Angeles Lakers owners sell majority of Steak in the
Speaker 4: team at.
Speaker 1: Ten billion dollar valuation. The Lakers were almost their general manager.
Speaker 2: Today, the most valuable sports franchise on Earth. Ten billion
Speaker 2: dollars sale just completed. Yeah, that's a big deal.
Speaker 4: From brightbart dot com, leftist echo chamber, Blue Sky suspends
Speaker 4: jd Vance's new account within thirty minutes of creation.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Did they give some sort of rationale for that or
Speaker 2: they just they're a bubble, We're a bubble.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then after they they and they reinstated his account,
Speaker 4: and that's upset.
Speaker 2: So they're being performative in the way that he's often performative.
Speaker 2: And that's all we do is we perform. And we
Speaker 2: mentioned their name on the air. Wait to go, Katie, Great, Wow.
Speaker 4: I'm really screwing This one up from the New York
Speaker 4: post Man with real life girlfriend and child proposes to
Speaker 4: AI chatbot after programming.
Speaker 1: It to flirt. Quote, I think it's actual love. Oh
Speaker 1: this is it.
Speaker 2: Worse If this is real or if this is just
Speaker 2: a way to get attention, they're both bad.
Speaker 4: And finally the Babylon Bee Ted Cruz destroyed in interview
Speaker 4: as he's unable to name Ayatola's favorite starter Pokemon.
Speaker 1: I was actually thinking, why is Ted Cruz doing this?
Speaker 2: And I thought he is trying to explain to the
Speaker 2: Tucker crowd, bring bring some of them over to his side,
Speaker 2: because because he realizes he's going to be running against
Speaker 2: jd Vance, among other people, in twenty twenty eight, he's
Speaker 2: going to be running for president, and he needs that crowd,
Speaker 2: that's my guess. Well, and if he loves this country,
Speaker 2: he might just be explaining his preferred foreign policy too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: You have to get into a Tucker for that. But anyway,
Speaker 2: I got more on everything on the way.
Speaker 1: I hope you can stay.
Speaker 4: Here, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5: We had sirens. Everybody went into the shelter, but later
Speaker 5: we learned it was just a few Iranian ballistic missiles.
Speaker 5: Keep in mind, in the beginning of this there were
Speaker 5: two hundred and one night. Last couple of nights, it's
Speaker 5: been thirty, so it's definitely a dramatic reduction. The military
Speaker 5: announcing that they're beginning a phased reopening of the economy.
Speaker 5: Shops are opening, people are sort of getting into more
Speaker 5: of a new normal posture, a little bit more relaxed,
Speaker 5: but still vigilant.
Speaker 2: I didn't catch where a clears award. Is she in Tehran?
Speaker 2: Or is she in Tel Aviv? Where is she that
Speaker 2: they're having fewer missiles shot at her Israel? Probably I
Speaker 2: haven't heard except for one guy with a written report
Speaker 2: from Tehran.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I don't think anybody's there.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so that's said though by her last night.
Speaker 2: One of Israel's biggest hospitals got hit today with some injuries,
Speaker 2: and Iran says they weren't shooting for the hospital. They're
Speaker 2: shooting for a military target and accidentally hit the hospital.
Speaker 2: That's either true or it's not. I don't know, but
Speaker 2: ain't good. So I was looking at yesterday's schedule when
Speaker 2: I asked for the clip. Michael, if you would like
Speaker 2: to yell at me. That would be I think appropriate. Probably,
Speaker 2: That's okay, I'll let you off, Okay, all right, fine, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I actually had a different clip in mind, but that's fine.
Speaker 2: It was that Netta who want wants very much for
Speaker 2: Trump to administer the final blow to knock out the
Speaker 2: four to Oho facility.
Speaker 1: And on that topic, obviously the big story of the day.
Speaker 2: There are a couple of different angles that are that
Speaker 2: are interesting about this.
Speaker 1: Jack.
Speaker 2: You've been reporting on or leading the discussion on what
Speaker 2: might go sideways if indeed the US joins in the attack.
Speaker 2: I've just come across another poll. This is the j
Speaker 2: L Partners poll poll of over one thousand registered voters,
Speaker 2: including six hundred and twenty four Republicans, and the New
Speaker 2: York Post published this one.
Speaker 1: But man, I've come across some wacky results.
Speaker 2: In this one, Republican voters back US strikes on I
Speaker 2: ran by a margin of fifty eight to twenty five
Speaker 2: and that includes sixty five percent of self described MAGA Republicans,
Speaker 2: an even higher number than traditional Republicans.
Speaker 1: That the result strikes me as somewhat odd. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know that poll. Yeah, I don't either.
Speaker 2: The fact that New York Post one with it suggests
Speaker 2: that it's not completely whacked dutally. But anyway, I thought
Speaker 2: this was really interesting. A couple of writers in the
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal talking about why Iran's axis of resistance
Speaker 2: is missing in action, and I thought, well, it's because
Speaker 2: you know, Israel blew the junk off of a lot
Speaker 2: of Hesbala guys.
Speaker 1: Is more or less decimated.
Speaker 2: And that is absolutely true, but there's a lot more
Speaker 2: in Iraq. Your Iranian Bakshiite militias have not targeted US
Speaker 2: military basis as they have in the past. Yemen's who
Speaker 2: these fired a few missiles at Israel on Sunday, but
Speaker 2: have remained silent in the five days since, four or
Speaker 2: five days since. And they mentioned that a lot of
Speaker 2: these groups, when they were in a fight like with
Speaker 2: Bashira Ala Sad, Iran didn't help them. It didn't step
Speaker 2: up to help them.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: Interesting, And so that whole axis of a hole seems
Speaker 2: to be falling apart and has been reported by a
Speaker 2: number of people.
Speaker 1: Russia's not coming to Iran's aid for whatever reason. Putin
Speaker 1: has said.
Speaker 2: Right, right, although he has helpfully volunteered to broker a
Speaker 2: deal between Israel and Iran. Right, Well, now that's a
Speaker 2: tempting prospect.
Speaker 1: Isn't it.
Speaker 2: Well he did that and we all laughed at it,
Speaker 2: with the whole Syria using chemical weapons, and the administration
Speaker 2: jumped on it, and John Kerry allowed.
Speaker 1: Putin to negotiate.
Speaker 2: The whatever it was with the chemical weapons, which everybody
Speaker 2: thought was a farce, but it was an off ramp
Speaker 2: for Barack Obama who'd drawn a red line. So right,
Speaker 2: it is a good way to get out of it.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to do it in this case.
Speaker 2: So the other aspect of why some of the proxies
Speaker 2: haven't left to Iran's defense or started attacking US and
Speaker 2: Israeli targets is a very simple illustration of the this
Speaker 2: stuff works. I would I would summarize it. Well, I'll
Speaker 2: quote this think tanker from London. For all of these
Speaker 2: networks right now, it's about survival. They all understand the
Speaker 2: wrath of these types of military campaigns. In other words,
Speaker 2: they have all looked at it and said, no, the
Speaker 2: big dogs are serious. Now we don't want any part
Speaker 2: of your crap. We got our own problems, we got
Speaker 2: our own little fight for supremacy in our corner of
Speaker 2: the God forsake and Middle East and Israel in particular
Speaker 2: is serious about putting a herd on people, so we
Speaker 2: don't want any part of it. That's what we call.
Speaker 2: I'll give you a hint. It's a D word, deterrence.
Speaker 2: You if you wish for peace, prepare for war.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: David Sanger's piece in the New York Times today is
Speaker 2: what could go wrong basically, and his main thing, in
Speaker 2: addition to a whole bunch of obvious stuff. I mean,
Speaker 2: one of the dealth bombers, could you know, have mechanical
Speaker 2: problems or get shot down, you know, they get a
Speaker 2: lucky shot with whatever defenses they got left or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Something like that could happen.
Speaker 2: But more likely is Iran does start firing at our bases,
Speaker 2: kills a couple American soldiers, and then there is a
Speaker 2: fair amount of public outcry and pressure on Donald Trump
Speaker 2: to like really respond because now American soldiers have been killed,
Speaker 2: and that escalates and you're very quickly to having to
Speaker 2: take out the Iyatola because he's killing you as soldiers
Speaker 2: that you could get.
Speaker 1: There really quick, right.
Speaker 2: And on another front, similar though, and I've been it's
Speaker 2: tough to know how seriously and literally to take some
Speaker 2: of the stuff, But I think I do to a
Speaker 2: large extent. If the US really got involved, that could
Speaker 2: stir anti American anger in a way that we don't
Speaker 2: quite get as Americans. Among the Middle Easterners. I mean
Speaker 2: even and obviously there are quotes around this, but even
Speaker 2: the evil Jew, I mean, the Arab folks never admit it,
Speaker 2: but yeah, the Jewish folks have been in Israel controlling
Speaker 2: Israel on and off for thousands of years. They are
Speaker 2: of that region. They might be the Evil Jew, but
Speaker 2: they're you know, another one of the tribes, another one
Speaker 2: of the religions of the Middle East, and it's.
Speaker 1: On, we're trying to kill each other.
Speaker 2: But when the big dog, who doesn't even live there,
Speaker 2: starts wrecking stuff and killing people, people in that region
Speaker 2: get get pretty unhappy about it. So there it could
Speaker 2: trigger another wave of anti American anger, resentment, etc. All
Speaker 2: these things to me, and I think this is what
Speaker 2: ultimately is going to be decided. All these things could
Speaker 2: be true at various levels or combinations. Still not as
Speaker 2: bad as Iran haviling a nuclear weapon. And that's where
Speaker 2: you end. You do have to boil it down to
Speaker 2: that again and again you're right, yeah, right.
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 2: Well, let me let me reach just read the first paragraph,
Speaker 2: because I thought this was pretty good. US strike on
Speaker 2: o Rand would bring risks at every turn.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: There was a great piece in the National Review the
Speaker 2: other day that Noah Rothman wrote about how we are
Speaker 2: so for a variety of reasons of things that have
Speaker 2: gone bad in the past, like so scared and so,
Speaker 2: but what if this and what if that? With everything
Speaker 2: we do now in a way that we didn't used
Speaker 2: to be. Yeah, there are downsides, sure, there always are,
Speaker 2: but ultimately we don't want them to get away.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's not a good it's not a good way to
Speaker 2: look at your life. Well, what, we could go on
Speaker 2: vacation this summer, but you know what if one of
Speaker 2: us gets sick or we run out of gas or okay,
Speaker 2: what if a pipe breaks when we're gone and now
Speaker 2: gets flooded?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm not trying to be too dismissive of
Speaker 2: how awful like Iraq went, but you can't paralyze yourself
Speaker 2: with every bit of things that could go wrong anyway.
Speaker 1: The leading, especially because you.
Speaker 2: Have to spend equal time and energy on what could
Speaker 2: go wrong if Iran has a new Oh my god, yes, definitely.
Speaker 2: It's easy to write those paragraphs. It sounds so surgical,
Speaker 2: so precise, exactly the kind of air attack that only
Speaker 2: the US Force can air Force can execute. A series
Speaker 2: of B two bombers lifts off from Whitman Air Force
Speaker 2: Base in Missouri. Refueled in the air, they head for
Speaker 2: a remote mountain in north central Iran, far from civilians,
Speaker 2: where they get Iran's most heavily fortified nuclear site, Foordoh
Speaker 2: in their sights. They drop their giant thirty thousand palm
Speaker 2: bunker busters, one after another, blasting a giant hole down
Speaker 2: into the centrifuge halls that have been in the bullseye
Speaker 2: since Barack Obama and other leaders of Britain and France
Speaker 2: revealed their existence in two thousand and nine, destroying them.
Speaker 1: And they turn around and they fly back.
Speaker 2: It's something that they take off from Missouri, fly all
Speaker 2: the way there, drop the bombs in, then fly all
Speaker 2: the way back. Right with all our bases around the world,
Speaker 2: we don't want those B twos anywhere but in the homeland.
Speaker 2: I guess that's my assumption too valuable, to important and
Speaker 2: so little used. Maybe why would you why would you
Speaker 2: keep them anywhere but in the middle of the United
Speaker 2: States where they're safe well, right, and if you can
Speaker 2: get them anywhere on Earth virtually and you know, within
Speaker 2: a day, that's pretty quick. H Wow, that's going to
Speaker 2: be exciting to watch when it happens. What's your sense
Speaker 2: of how much heads up will have, Like, will we
Speaker 2: hear about it after it happened or will we be
Speaker 2: watching it live on television? The former, I think it'll
Speaker 2: be will be told it has happened. Although with like
Speaker 2: open source intelligence, the Twitter account we both like so much,
Speaker 2: people are very very good at not reading the tea leaves.
Speaker 2: It's just seeing, all right, this refueling plane was just
Speaker 2: moved to this base. Uh, these pilots were just scrambled bubbah,
Speaker 2: and people figure it out. Well, have you been following
Speaker 2: the whole pizza thing that they do a number of
Speaker 2: websites are doing a thing. So yeah, So there are
Speaker 2: some uh oh go ahead sorry Dominoes and various pizza
Speaker 2: places around uh DC that when they get super crazy busy,
Speaker 2: it's because they know people are up late having big
Speaker 2: all night meetings and everybody's at work at the Pentagon,
Speaker 2: you usually means something big is about to happen or
Speaker 2: is going on, which is pretty an interesting way to
Speaker 2: figure it out. Our fighting men and women deserve better pizza.
Speaker 2: That's funny that even our civilian employees. I'm a fiscal conservative.
Speaker 2: I don't want to waste money, but you got you
Speaker 2: got some of our smartest minds deciding whether or not
Speaker 2: to kick off World War three, and you're getting them dominoes.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Send that to who Iran.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be so busy on the pot they won't
Speaker 2: be Oh wait a minute, sorry, I'm coming off like
Speaker 2: Jimmy Fallon taking shots. As to what you call it, Arby,
Speaker 2: I think you could get sued for that. You're it
Speaker 2: was stated that Domino's peach. I didn't I misspoke. Okay, yes, Katie,
Speaker 2: don't don't go knock in the dominoes.
Speaker 1: We don't want it's too good to send Iran. We
Speaker 1: got to send them something worse. I haven't had Dominoes
Speaker 1: in a long time.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 4: I try their stuffed crust this last weekend, and it.
Speaker 1: Was so good.
Speaker 2: You what, my son and I are going to try that.
Speaker 2: Maybe tonight, my son and I have Domino's pizza. I
Speaker 2: haven't had it in a long dim. I should give
Speaker 2: them another try. You know you're a flip flopper. You're
Speaker 2: condemning them seconds ago, but based on perhaps old data.
Speaker 2: Perhaps that's right, outdated information about Dominoes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should try it again too.
Speaker 2: When the facts change, you change your mind. You're not
Speaker 2: a flip flopper, You're Churchillian. We've got mail Bank coming
Speaker 2: up next. So our friend Tim Sanderfer has got a
Speaker 2: little information about how Juneteenth that's today is the United
Speaker 2: States most libertarian holiday. I'm actually going to read that
Speaker 2: and try to understand it. Got to admit, I don't
Speaker 2: quite have my head wrapped around Juneteenth, which is a
Speaker 2: company holiday for us. I found out when I got
Speaker 2: to work national holiday. The fact that Joe Biden right,
Speaker 2: the fact that we're all working today is a little racist.
Speaker 2: By whom are we the racists or we the people
Speaker 2: that compelled.
Speaker 1: Me to work? I think I don't know. You and
Speaker 1: Michael keep me out of it. Fair enough. Here's your
Speaker 1: Freedom Woman quote of the day.
Speaker 2: It's from Andre Breton, French writer and poet, co founder,
Speaker 2: leader and principal theorist of surrealism.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, he said.
Speaker 2: There is nothing with which it is so dangerous to
Speaker 2: take liberties as liberty itself. I might rephrase that is,
Speaker 2: don't take liberties with liberty, protect it fiercely. Got you, yeah,
Speaker 2: mailbag boot boot a note. Yeah, kind of like you
Speaker 2: should believe in moderation, including you know, moderation and moderation
Speaker 2: exact that it's one of them. Yep, you can drop
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Speaker 2: Jessin Wiley, Texas writes on the Supreme Court transgender ruling
Speaker 2: the other day and New York Times magazine coverage of it.
Speaker 2: The problem isn't the transgender faults. It's that, much like
Speaker 2: string theory and experimental jazz, most Americans can't grasp it
Speaker 2: with their dumb, cheeseburger brains. That's her characterization of the
Speaker 2: New York Times characterisation.
Speaker 1: That's pretty funny. I must I actually read part of it,
Speaker 1: and I'm digging into it.
Speaker 2: I must have a cheeseburger brain because I have tried
Speaker 2: to understand string theory and quantum physics and I just
Speaker 2: cannot get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I gave up more or less at the beginning, so
Speaker 2: uh frequent correspond to JT and liber war on the
Speaker 2: topic of a crazy, crazy Iran. Iran has sworn to
Speaker 2: destroy Israel and all the Jews. To that end, Iran
Speaker 2: has empowered and sponsored several nation states to also attack Israel.
Speaker 2: Iran sanctioned tens of thousands of missile attacks from Lebanon
Speaker 2: and Gaza, attacked there's Raeli ships at sea, and of
Speaker 2: course all the atrocities on October seventh were facilitated and
Speaker 2: condoned by Iran. Iran also pays families of suicide bombers
Speaker 2: a pension if their children killed Jews and a suicide attack.
Speaker 1: Many people would call any.
Speaker 2: Or all of these actions acts of war, but apparently
Speaker 2: Iran didn't actually declare war. In fact, Iran claims Israel's
Speaker 2: attacks are the declaration of war. What does it say
Speaker 2: about Iran that they swear to destroy Israel, get four
Speaker 2: nation states to attack Israel, culminating on October seventh, then
Speaker 2: blame Israel for daring to fight back. Question, how do
Speaker 2: you deal rationally with people and countries that are irrationally
Speaker 2: saw somebody pointing out yesterday that during the Iran Raq
Speaker 2: war in the eighties and which a million people died.
Speaker 2: Iran was using children to send out into mine fields
Speaker 2: to try to clear minefields. That's how they would do it,
Speaker 2: and tell their parents. You know, they're going to be
Speaker 2: martyred and they'll be welcome by However, that whole thing
Speaker 2: works after the dead, So send the kids out there
Speaker 2: to get their legs blown off. Figure out where the
Speaker 2: minds are.
Speaker 1: Nice culture. Yeah, indeed, his ps is.
Speaker 2: Following your discussion about how China has so many big
Speaker 2: successful laps that are stealing data from every customer, I
Speaker 2: realized at least one day devastating way that China could
Speaker 2: use that info in a coordinated attack against the US
Speaker 2: if they ever decided to. China could take all the
Speaker 2: credit card information they're supposed to be keeping safe, secret,
Speaker 2: and secure. They could flood the e commerce world with
Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of false charges, false money transfer requests,
Speaker 2: and other general bogus financial interactions. Imagine the chaosk and
Speaker 2: confusion if along with our attacking our power, water, and communications,
Speaker 2: they also used all those credit cards to make bogus
Speaker 2: purchases and cash advances trust China. He says, that would
Speaker 2: be the most annoying attack that I can imagine. There
Speaker 2: are other attacks where I think I'd rather you blew
Speaker 2: up my house or my car. Then you gave me
Speaker 2: a bunch of paperwork that I'm gonna have to straighten
Speaker 2: out over months. Yeah, if the water is shut off,
Speaker 2: the need to straighten out a false cash.
Speaker 1: Advance is fairly a minor concern.
Speaker 2: But uh, let's see, uh skip around. How about side
Speaker 2: show Bob, I haven't heard anyone mention the threat of
Speaker 2: potential terrorist attacks here linked to Iran. We've been told
Speaker 2: that large numbers of suspicious Middle Eastern citizens across the border,
Speaker 2: So wouldn't it make sense that their Iranian handlers would
Speaker 2: give them the green light if they perceive were declaring
Speaker 2: war on them?
Speaker 1: This is my fear.
Speaker 2: Brings up another question, why haven't we heard of any
Speaker 2: deportations of Middle Eastern or Chinese people? And is the
Speaker 2: DHS and their leadership being too myopic about their mission.
Speaker 2: It's a discussion for another day. So today's Thursday, by
Speaker 2: the way, and remember the Israelian bassador of the United
Speaker 2: States said Thursday or Friday, you're going to see something
Speaker 2: that makes the pager attack pale and compared Garrison. So Okay,
Speaker 2: is that gonna happen the day or tomorrow. Israel is
Speaker 2: well ahead of us time zone wise. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's getting late on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, clock's a ticken. Don't lie to me, man.
Speaker 2: I want some exciting uh Ted Cruz and Tucker getting
Speaker 2: into it, kind of explaining the whole rift in the
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