WEBVTT - ALEXX MEDIA - Honey Nut Cheerios Remix

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating Wild Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Coley Witt, and today we have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guests, Alex Media in the building. Usually I do

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<v Speaker 1>not read bios or anything, but this is very short,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want you guys to get a full encompass

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<v Speaker 1>of what Alex does. So. Alex Media is a filmmaker

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<v Speaker 1>and producer recognized for his work across major comedy and

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<v Speaker 1>digital platforms. He's a co host of Flagrant Podcasts, which

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<v Speaker 1>we all know and love, the director of Andrew Schultz

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix special Schultz Saves America, producer on the Brilliant Idiots podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>co owner of WTF Studios, where we are today. We

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<v Speaker 1>are not in studio, so he will not be cooking

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<v Speaker 1>for us, and which is a full service production facility,

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<v Speaker 1>which if you've watched any of our remote remote episodes

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<v Speaker 1>we always tape at WTF. We don't cheat on him

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<v Speaker 1>unless he is overbooked, which today he was slightly overbooked,

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<v Speaker 1>very very overbooked, And so I cheated on him for

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<v Speaker 1>like a micro one session down the street, and I

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<v Speaker 1>came right back to where I belong WTF Always I

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<v Speaker 1>forgive it. Yeah, I had no choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Forgive, but we fixed that problem. We're adding another space

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<v Speaker 2>we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm in. You know, I'm going to speak some

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<v Speaker 1>other good things into fruition for La too. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see. But anyways, before we get into Alex's story,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to know what you and I are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be eating today.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So my struggle meal. When I was young, I

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of cereal because I didn't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to cook. And to this day, to this day, I

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<v Speaker 2>still don't know how to cook.

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<v Speaker 1>So you still don't know how to don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to cook? Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I make two things I could do steak like a

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<v Speaker 2>nice restaurant sake.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love how you added that you could really

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<v Speaker 1>do this steak, you know, like not.

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<v Speaker 2>Just regular steak, like good stick cut steak. And a

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<v Speaker 2>mac and cheese. My mac and cheese. I took my

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<v Speaker 2>mom's recipe, I improved it a little bit, and I

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<v Speaker 2>make it one time a year Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, I love how you also semi hated on

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<v Speaker 1>your mom in that bit.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I gotta give it a credit. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like I came up with the recipe, but I

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<v Speaker 2>took her recipe.

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<v Speaker 1>And improved it though. Okay, so not only did you

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<v Speaker 1>improve her dish, I'm wondering how Yeah, go ahead open it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be eating it. So Alex has a nice

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<v Speaker 1>twist to his honey nut cherryos. I have never had this.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, tell tell everybody what we're doing to this honey.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I was young, I also like sweets. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a problem with sweets up until about a year

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<v Speaker 2>ago when I was diagnosed as being pre diabetic. So

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<v Speaker 2>now I got I got everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, diagnosed, I'd be thinking I'm invincible when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to candy. But it's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's a problem. It's anything sweet in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gone in like five minutes. But now and now

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<v Speaker 2>I got it under wrapt. So this might send me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, relas me. But Okaynat, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he does have it. Okay, the sarment. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do the So are you gonna live large tonight? Yeah? Yeah, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got the terials and then I would either

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<v Speaker 2>add sugar or honey, but the honey. I would steal

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<v Speaker 2>the packets from McDonald's cause they would have the honey

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<v Speaker 2>packets that you would get. Oh yeah, yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>better with the honey, cause honey cheerios. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta stay on bread.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done this, so go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got stay over here. So you gotta lightly

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<v Speaker 2>lightly drizzle, but you have to cover all the surface

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<v Speaker 2>area and then once you do that, oh yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>don't matter, it's all going the same place.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, nice little circular motion. You gotta cover all

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<v Speaker 2>the top. Yeah yah, you should have saw it. You

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<v Speaker 2>should have saw my frosted flakes. Yuh, like I used

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<v Speaker 2>to cover it and sugar. It's crazy. Also, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be able to hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I didn't know if you were like black

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<v Speaker 1>post or whatever, but I was like, you know, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you wearing a wireless bike?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they're not gonna be able to.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we doing podcasting alright. But then it's very important.

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<v Speaker 2>The same way you did that with the honey, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to do it with the milk. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>pour the milk slow and like cover the honey or

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<v Speaker 2>else it's not gonna like break down.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, yeah, cause I see it grouping up.

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<v Speaker 2>There exactly, So you gotta like that and make sure

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<v Speaker 2>you get all the spots.

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<v Speaker 1>And when did you come up with this theory?

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<v Speaker 2>When when you're a kid you got mad time for.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone that doesn't cook, you invested a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but I had a lot of cereals, so I

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<v Speaker 2>had taught to you don't change it. I've tried different things.

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<v Speaker 1>When was the last time you had this dish?

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<v Speaker 2>It's been years? Like cereal, I try to stay away from,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the carbs. Now I'm just high protein, low

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<v Speaker 2>carb diet. So this is gonna be a nice low

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<v Speaker 2>treat for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a treat. But I want to see,

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<v Speaker 1>like how much nostalgia comes from you eating this?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, this is gonna spike my insulin happily.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're pre pre right. Do you have to monitor

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<v Speaker 1>your insulin if you're Look how happy he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that you got you gotta I'm on now,

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<v Speaker 2>come on now, I ain't.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna I purposely tried to get the spoon with the

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<v Speaker 1>honey on it. I'm not gonna front. Yo, you live,

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<v Speaker 1>you live.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm after I do it, my mom's back and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>little change make it a little better.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. I would totally do that as

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<v Speaker 1>an adult moving forward like this is really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I would to, and I'm probably gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>this when I get home now. Yeah, oh that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was good, Yo, that was actually really good, like really good,

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<v Speaker 1>impressively good shout outs to. So take me back to

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<v Speaker 1>that era. What was going on in the household? What

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<v Speaker 1>was the household looking like?

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<v Speaker 2>So I grew up in far Rockaway, Queens. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>the best. It's probably a low income neighborhood. And my

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<v Speaker 2>parents got divorced when I was eleven, so single mom,

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<v Speaker 2>household and yeah, so you know, money was always tight.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wouldn't say we didn't have food on the table,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just like, as a person who didn't cook,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have to wait for my mom to come home,

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<v Speaker 2>and she would usually come home late from work and

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<v Speaker 2>we would get dinner. But up until then, you got

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<v Speaker 2>a fan for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was the classic, the og classic. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you were getting these honey packers curious, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>you going home from school, You like, man, that cheriot

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be hitting different today.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, And.

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<v Speaker 1>So you would go and like grab your little honey

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<v Speaker 1>package that along the way I'm literally envisioned because.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like you know, you would stop in McDonald's babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you can get the happy meals. Sometimes you just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, steal some ketchup packages. There's some sugar, some money,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you need.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So single parent, household kind of walk me towards

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<v Speaker 1>you becoming an entrepreneur, creator, filmmaker, producer. What is like

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<v Speaker 1>the first steps of like tingling in that direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, so that came much later in life. I

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<v Speaker 2>never knew what I wanted to do, so I'll try

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<v Speaker 2>to speed through it because I've lived a lot of lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, back when I was younger, I was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of, you know, a knucklehead, like getting into dumb shit,

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<v Speaker 2>gang stuff, selling drugs, that type of bullshit. And then

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<v Speaker 2>but I also got straight a's in school, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I kind of like lived the double life. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like a nerd when I go to school and

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<v Speaker 2>then I come home and hang out with gangsters. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like I always just got experience to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot and not sure what I actually wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Fast forward to when I started working, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was because I was an entrepreneur with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>drug stuff. I just always wanted to make money. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, even throughout high school, I was working, so

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<v Speaker 2>I would leave school. I had a part time job

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<v Speaker 2>at like kmart cafe or whatever, and then I got

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<v Speaker 2>a sales job. I didn't like that, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>making good money, like for some reason on telemarketing and

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<v Speaker 2>I could I could sell some cable.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you do you know if you liked the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of making money more or did you like what

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<v Speaker 1>you could do with the money more?

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<v Speaker 2>What I can do with the money. I like the freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you liked what you could buy with the

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<v Speaker 1>money or the freedom to do.

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<v Speaker 2>To do stuff that I wanted to do. Yeah, Because

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I lived in far Rockaway, which is like

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<v Speaker 2>about maybe like almost an hour and a half two

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<v Speaker 2>hour drive from Manhattan, but I would like to come

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<v Speaker 2>into Manhattan. So I hated that train ride, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted a car. So in like sixteen, I was

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<v Speaker 2>able to buy myself a car. Yeah, an entrepreneur. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like driving into the city, driving all

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<v Speaker 2>my friends and stuff like that, getting into a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of trouble, but you know, yeah, and what.

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<v Speaker 1>Was your mom feeling about your entrepreneurial ways in the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you could manage money.

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<v Speaker 2>She never knew what you never knew?

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you get a car without her? Like figures?

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<v Speaker 2>I had a job, like I had the Kmart cafe.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, so you had got it so very smart. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So and she didn't catch on when you buy a car.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she didn't like the people I hung out with,

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<v Speaker 2>but like you know, I was. I didn't get in

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<v Speaker 2>trouble and I was get good grades and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So only child, No, I have an older sistant.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, so you're doing your entrepreneur thing. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your first big legit entrepreneur play.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this studio is the one. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I didn't know what I wanted to do

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<v Speaker 2>in life. I just knew that I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>happy doing whatever I did. So it's like I went

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<v Speaker 2>to college. I studied psychology at first, didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. Then I switched over to nursing. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>went to nursing school. I'm a graduated r N took

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<v Speaker 2>my end collects. I could be a nurse if I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to, but now things expired. At this point I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like nursing. Then I went to law enforcement. I

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<v Speaker 2>became a court officer here at Manhattan Supreme Criminal Court.

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<v Speaker 2>I did that for about three and a half years,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the editing thing was just fun. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>used to just do that, a fun little thing on

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<v Speaker 2>the side, where it's like me and my friends, we

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<v Speaker 2>would like go on vacations and I would tell all

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<v Speaker 2>of them, yo, send me a picture, send me your videos,

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<v Speaker 2>and now I would just like edit it together and

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<v Speaker 2>make us like a little promo real just so we

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<v Speaker 2>could throw it on MySpace or something like that. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I enjoyed doing that. I didn't know that was

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily a job. So then I just started to reach

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<v Speaker 2>out to people I liked and I admired. I liked

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop, and I liked comedy. And at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>Sipha Sounds he was DJ at Hot ninety seven, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he also was starting to do stand up, so

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<v Speaker 2>like I reached out to him initially because I was like, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I see you're pivoting to do, you know, stand up?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any additional way I could help you? I

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<v Speaker 2>just offered help.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, And that was like a DM.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just a cold DM. And so I started following

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<v Speaker 2>him and first time ever picking up a camera, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just lied and said like, oh yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 2>how to use the camera and shit like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>just borrowed my friend's camera and was following him on

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<v Speaker 2>DJ sets, and then I would also film him doing

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<v Speaker 2>like a little bit of stand up and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And from there I kind of just like got better

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<v Speaker 2>at it and then met more people within an industry.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I met Andrew, and I started working alongside

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<v Speaker 2>with Andrew, and that around the time I met him

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<v Speaker 2>was when I was a court officer, so I was

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<v Speaker 2>like doing my court officer job. But then also I

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<v Speaker 2>would leave during my lunch break and film brilliant adiosts.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I would have it because they the iHeart

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<v Speaker 2>building was like right across the street, so I would

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<v Speaker 2>like just take off my fucking vest and I would

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<v Speaker 2>still be in my uniform and shit and a runover

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<v Speaker 2>set up the cameras film brilliant Idiots run back. So

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<v Speaker 2>many times I got in trouble because I would come

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<v Speaker 2>back late from filming and.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have to be very Oh you said you

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<v Speaker 1>would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Late, yeaheah, I would be. I got in trouble quite

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<v Speaker 2>a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, so you're doing this, At what point do

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<v Speaker 1>you start to say I'm making money doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>It got to a point where I just couldn't do both. So,

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<v Speaker 2>like I got good to the fact that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people were requesting my services and I just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have enough time. And then like Andrew took me aside.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, yo, I need a full time videographer. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's like Pete gave me an amount and it was

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<v Speaker 2>more than I was making at the time from the

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<v Speaker 2>court office job. And so I just left that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, backtrack, before Andrew did that, how were you able

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<v Speaker 1>to set your rates? That had to been a process

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<v Speaker 1>for you too, right, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was super difficult. Like I even to this day, like

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<v Speaker 2>I got an assistant or manager just because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like to have those, So it was like whatever they offered.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, the time you had started, you had started

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<v Speaker 1>doing it pro bono, right yeah. Yeah, and then like.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't even get paid. I don't think I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get paid until probably working with Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, shout outs to Andrew.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know, so sometimes white Man's good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, so you're doing so you go full time

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<v Speaker 1>with Andrew, but you're still doing side stuff. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine to go one hundred percent like.

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<v Speaker 2>Some things as favors, like I'm doing it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just because I admire or like the people's work, like

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes they would hit me off or something, but it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't significant to leave my job type money.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were doing like more BTS for Andrew. When

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<v Speaker 1>do you start doing get the special or was the

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<v Speaker 1>special part of the package?

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<v Speaker 2>No, So when he brought me on to do full time,

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<v Speaker 2>that meant I followed him everywhere. So every single weekend

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<v Speaker 2>he was on the road doing I filmed every single

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<v Speaker 2>show and then I would edit the show down and

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<v Speaker 2>we would find clips that we can post because he

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the first comics to post a joke

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<v Speaker 2>a week like nobody else was doing that because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like they tore that same material. They don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>burn it. But he's like a genius when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to comedy, and his crowd work is like unbelievable, So

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<v Speaker 2>we can use those crowd work moments because those are

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<v Speaker 2>you know, once in a it's only going to happen

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<v Speaker 2>that moment, so you can burn those. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>was filming. I was filming and editing Brilliant Idiots Flagrant,

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<v Speaker 2>following him on the road every weekend editing his stand up.

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<v Speaker 2>We were also doing another like vlog series and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. So I was pumping out at one time

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<v Speaker 2>six hours of original content. Wow per week like filming editing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you're also getting to travel on all this,

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<v Speaker 1>So I had like all these amazing perks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, amazing. Yeah, I've seen all of America, even

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<v Speaker 2>the not so fun parts, go to America, I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>it all. And then traveled the world with him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was dope.

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<v Speaker 1>And then how did you end up meeting him?

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<v Speaker 2>I think through Cyphus Sounds. He was a guest on

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<v Speaker 2>Cypher's podcast at the time. And then, funny enough, my

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<v Speaker 2>name's not actually Alex. I just chose a fake name

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<v Speaker 2>because I was in law enforcement and I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to get whatever I was doing outside to like get

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<v Speaker 2>me in any trouble, and so I chose a random name,

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Anderson. Just so happens, Andrew knows some comic named

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Anderson. So when I reached out to him via DM,

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<v Speaker 2>he thought he was talking to that other person that

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<v Speaker 2>whole time for about like four months. So we were

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<v Speaker 2>going back and forth, and he used to do this

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<v Speaker 2>thing where he's like, oh, thought of the thought of

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<v Speaker 2>the day or something like that. He would just like

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<v Speaker 2>walk around notice something and like film a front facing

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<v Speaker 2>video just to his ig stories of like funny take

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<v Speaker 2>on that thing. Every day I would grab it, edit it,

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<v Speaker 2>send it back to him and like, oh what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think of This just annoyed him for about like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe two months doing that shit, and he would like respond,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh I like it, Oh tweak this, But

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<v Speaker 2>then he would never post it. I'm like, why are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing this? You're never going to use the fucking ship,

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<v Speaker 2>but you like it. He thought he was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>his friend that holds up.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's why he wasn't posting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. So then when we finally met

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<v Speaker 2>in person on Seipha's podcast, I was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Alex. You've been talking to He's like, so we

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<v Speaker 2>just have a funny laugh after that, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh shit, I know, like this is what

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<v Speaker 2>you do.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then he was like all them times, these

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<v Speaker 1>videos I could have been using it. That's incredible. I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people think money, money, money, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's just funny how like indirectly you pursuing like a

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<v Speaker 1>passion project ended up, you know, redirecting your past.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I just never like to do anything I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do, and I've been blessed enough where i

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<v Speaker 2>haven't had to do it for that long. So like jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like it, I just wouldn't stay very long.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you pivoted out really really. Wait, I learned

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<v Speaker 1>that about waitressing and fast food when I was like

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager. I said, oh, these are two industries you

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<v Speaker 1>can't be and I knew right away. I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to you have to be successful at something because

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<v Speaker 1>this right here is not your thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But and like court officer was like a glorified

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<v Speaker 2>security guard and no offense to the job. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it was just so boring, Like it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just literally standing there telling people shut up, take your

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<v Speaker 2>hat off, quiet down, like for eight hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even imagine you're doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotta send us like a throwback pick though.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I think I still got one up on

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<v Speaker 2>my Instagram scrollback.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so then at what point does so you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>growing with Flavorant. Now Flavorant are you a founding member

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<v Speaker 1>of Flagrant?

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<v Speaker 2>So I started it with them, but I only started

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<v Speaker 2>as production.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'd end up on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>It was honestly, I just got close with the guys

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<v Speaker 2>because I would see him so often and we would

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<v Speaker 2>have great banter. So I have extreme stage right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you put me in front of a group of

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<v Speaker 2>people ask me to talk, I'm gonna have a panic

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<v Speaker 2>at Like, I don't like it. I don't like attention,

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<v Speaker 2>even this is low whatever, but I've gotten better at it.

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<v Speaker 2>So they just noticed, or I guess they saw something

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<v Speaker 2>in me where it's like, oh, you know, like he

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<v Speaker 2>has good things to offer to the show. So they

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<v Speaker 2>just added a mic in the room. So even though

0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm behind the cameras, they just had given me my

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<v Speaker 2>own mic. So if I added anything to the conversation, like,

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<v Speaker 2>feel free to do it. And so it was just

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<v Speaker 2>like a slow roll into it to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I became a voice on the show. And

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<v Speaker 2>then yeah, and then Andrew was just like, yo, it's time.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop stop hiding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah time, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love your guys. Dynamic. I feel like he's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely like one believes in you and just keeps throwing like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's an awesome guy. He's misunderstood to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people, but he's he's an awesome person.

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<v Speaker 1>He means well, I can see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know though, but I can see it. I

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<v Speaker 1>can see you know, you could tell a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>about people by like who they surround themselves with. And

0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:06.800
<v Speaker 1>he's surrounded with Charlemagne and everybody. You're like, okay, you good,

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<v Speaker 1>good people good. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta give it. So where does WTF end up coming in?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So then so I'm working for him full time

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<v Speaker 2>where traveling, and then the pandemic happens, and so now

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<v Speaker 2>half of my work is cut because we can all

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<v Speaker 2>longer travel, he can't do shows, and so I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh shit, this is a big monetary hit. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I need to come up with, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something else, another revenue stream and then something that's like

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<v Speaker 2>COVID proof. So this like this came to me where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, hey, working with him, I've had to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how to do everything because we would just shoot

0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.760
<v Speaker 2>stuff guerrilla style where it's just like, hey, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do a commercial shoot, we need this is this figure

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<v Speaker 2>it out? And so then I had to learn lights,

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<v Speaker 2>I had to learn audio, I had to learn camera.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to learn editing and how you learn YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff YouTube. Yeah, YouTube University for the most part,

0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.040
<v Speaker 2>and just trial and error. I definitely made some mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Document the mistakes of like me fucking up audio and

0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:12.679
<v Speaker 2>past episodes of Flagrant and just like not just missing something,

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<v Speaker 2>or like if a power line is touching an audio line,

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<v Speaker 2>you get this little buzzing in Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We had that at our studios. It is we'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>unplug everything.

0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.160
<v Speaker 2>The power line is touching an audio line, you get

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<v Speaker 2>a buzz.

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<v Speaker 1>And mother, that's what you just cured. So many problems

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.119
<v Speaker 1>for our studio right now. They'd be like, RACOLLI replace

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<v Speaker 1>the XLRS. Replace it. I'm like, yo, I don't think

0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:38.639
<v Speaker 1>it's the XLRS. They just don't just wake up one

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<v Speaker 1>day and say we're expired.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, a lot of it was just trialing error

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.280
<v Speaker 2>and then I just got good. And so the idea

0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:49.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, I been We've had to shoot our

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<v Speaker 2>podcast at so many studios that were shiit like really

0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.399
<v Speaker 2>just like bad customer service, poor conditions. I can do

0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.760
<v Speaker 2>this better, and so I basically emptied out my savings,

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:02.000
<v Speaker 2>took out a little business loan, and I first spoke

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<v Speaker 2>about the I spoke about the idea with Weezy because, like,

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<v Speaker 2>Weezy's like one of my best friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just tell you I'm not gay or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but if I had like a choice to be gay,

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<v Speaker 1>Weezy would be my number one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean she's by though, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like if God forbid, like it would never happen,

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred percent would never happen. You're straight all

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<v Speaker 1>the way. But like if someone was like, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to Weezy personality, Weezy on everything. Personality of course supersedes

0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.840
<v Speaker 1>her looks. Honestly, Weezy would be my number one.

0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:38.560
<v Speaker 2>She's my best tie. But that ship out of it,

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<v Speaker 2>I could like was.

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<v Speaker 1>She was my favorite episode of Eating While Broke and

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<v Speaker 1>we've done five seasons. There's another girl that now rivals her,

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<v Speaker 1>but Weezy. If people would be like, who's your favorite episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, Wheezy, Wheezy's my fuck favorite.

0:21:55.160 --> 0:22:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully this hope, but probably not your story.

0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:05.159
<v Speaker 1>He has stories, yeah, like stalkers and ship like I

0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:08.080
<v Speaker 1>had so many problems after her episode.

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh really bad. Oh yeah that we

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.320
<v Speaker 2>have a bad stalker guy and yeah, talk about it.

0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.879
<v Speaker 1>But no, so I wanted to hear this, this story

0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>about how you and weazy so you hit up wheezy.

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, And this is funny that we're having this

0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:24.720
<v Speaker 2>conversation now because I was talking with this comic last

0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:27.800
<v Speaker 2>night Alex Babbitt, funny guy, and we were like it

0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:30.320
<v Speaker 2>was like a therapy session. He's like, you know, why

0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:31.920
<v Speaker 2>do you think you have this stage fright or whatever?

0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:35.119
<v Speaker 2>And it's like I couldn't figure it out. And eventually,

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:37.400
<v Speaker 2>long story short, we got to the point is I'm

0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:39.560
<v Speaker 2>afraid of failing, and then I'm afraid of failing in

0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:43.560
<v Speaker 2>front of people. That makes it worse. So it's like, wow,

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:44.160
<v Speaker 2>that's deep.

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:44.960
<v Speaker 1>That was all in want.

0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, like we we was going in it

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.240
<v Speaker 2>and I really think that's the thing. It's like I

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.879
<v Speaker 2>don't like to fail, Like I like to do things

0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 2>that I feel confident or passionate about because then I

0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:59.480
<v Speaker 2>put my effort into it, and talking in front of people,

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel confidence, so I never attempt to do it,

0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 2>and it makes it even scarier because I'm like, oh,

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to fuck up and say something wrong in

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:07.680
<v Speaker 2>front of people.

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.880
<v Speaker 1>And then it's like, yeah, So I remember the first

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.440
<v Speaker 1>time I met you, like four years ago, you did

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:14.760
<v Speaker 1>seem very shy.

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how we did it. I think

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I said something to you. Maybe you're promoting WTF. But

0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I got your number, but you were very shy. I

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:27.639
<v Speaker 1>was shy to at the time, but you were shy.

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm still shy now. I just I've gotten a bit more,

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:32.640
<v Speaker 2>especially being in front of the camera a bit more

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:36.400
<v Speaker 2>with Flagrant. I've gotten a little bit more comfortable. But yeah,

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm still the shy, introvert guy that liked to just

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.800
<v Speaker 2>be behind the computer screen. That's my comfort zone.

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So take us back to you and weezy.

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we were drunk on a beach. I tell

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:51.200
<v Speaker 2>her about the idea. I only feel comfortable telling her.

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. I guess I'm just comfortable enough

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 2>with her. And I knew that because she works in

0:23:57.200 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 2>the industry, she would have like ideas that can make

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 2>this thing better. And then I'm like, you know what,

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm afraid of not being able to do this shit,

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Come and do it with me, and so I really

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:14.360
<v Speaker 2>just like I need you to help me, like make

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 2>this dream come true because I don't think I have

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 2>the capability to do it myself.

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, and that's what you said to.

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Her, Yeah, something, But we were talking to Beach, so

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 2>probably it wasn't as.

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting that you said that because you're the one

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:31.439
<v Speaker 1>that had the idea, you had the the seed in you.

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but then you had and you clearly were going

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 1>to go on this track, but you just wanted a

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>partner to Yeah.

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.399
<v Speaker 2>And then also it's like she has so many like

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 2>qualities that I lack, like being able to just put

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 2>yourself out there and out going, like she's great with promotion, marketing,

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 2>all that type of stuff. Me I I just want

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 2>to be the guy who connects a bunch of cameras

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 2>and lights and hope, you know, we can get a

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 2>good picture on screen and fill.

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>The space, right yeah. Yeah. Because also it's a significant

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 1>investment if you started in New York, right, Oh yeah,

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>it's versus La La La. There's some negotiations, but New

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>York is definitely.

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's rough, but yeah, we and it was just

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:13.160
<v Speaker 2>an ideal during COVID.

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so then what's your next play? After that?

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 2>It was just perfect timing because it's like COVID, everybody's

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:23.239
<v Speaker 2>home podcast boom is happening, so now everybody wants to

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 2>get into podcasting. So it took off after the first studio,

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 2>like within six months, we needed a second one, and

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:33.479
<v Speaker 2>now we're like up to five in New York. And

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 2>then we have one.

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>We're five in New York. Yeah, how how could I

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>not get an extra studio?

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Five in New York?

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Where are the other locations?

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 2>So it's like each set I would consider one, so

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:50.640
<v Speaker 2>this will count. And then Midtown we have two and now.

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah that's right, Okay, yes, you're right.

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 2>And then we just got another space in Midtown opening up.

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And this one, I like, I tried something new, so

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, like a white psych or like a white wall.

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:05.199
<v Speaker 2>It looks like just an infinity room, So I just

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 2>built that inside of a studio.

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 2>And then I have it like all set up for podcasting, commercials,

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:15.400
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. And I'm excited about this because white

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Sykes you usually have to pay per thing so it's

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 2>like you can rent the space, but then you have

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:23.120
<v Speaker 2>to pay extra for lights, you have to pay extra

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.159
<v Speaker 2>for cameras, extra for audio. By the time you do that,

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 2>it's like maybe one thousand dollars for an hour. I'm

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna do the same thing but offer it at like

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 2>four hundred dolls. So I'm just gonna undercut the whole industry.

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:34.120
<v Speaker 2>And now you're probably.

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna you're gonna be like, what app was it?

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I what is it?

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Steve?

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 1>When they used to steal Yeah, yeah, iTunes or whatever,

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>You're like, you're gonna do it again, but in video

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 1>and audio. I like that. Yeah. I used to always

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 1>wonder though, because you guys have such big, big names.

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.159
<v Speaker 1>This is probably messed to ask on camera. But you

0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.919
<v Speaker 1>have so many you have people like my company that's

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:01.919
<v Speaker 1>very small, and then you have some big talent right

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 1>that comes in. Do they all end up paying the

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>same price?

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that was a thing that you know, I

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't say we argued about, but we definitely went back

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and forth, and I was like, you know, I want

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 2>to keep prices down because I definitely want our people

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 2>to be able to, you know, use the studio and yeah,

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I just wanted accessible for everybody, and I think

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 2>that's part of why we're so busy. It's because, yeah,

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>it's affordable. I should rent this out for a lot more.

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 2>But I want everybody to be able to And I

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 2>personally feel good that It's like I'm providing a space

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 2>for people to, you know, try to do something and

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 2>if they take if their show takes off, it's like

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 2>that shit started here. It's like dope. And I've had

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.719
<v Speaker 2>a lot of success stories of people signing pretty big

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 2>deals after they started here.

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh please let that. Yeah, even though I was very lucky,

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 1>I did a similar thing with Dolly at La La

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 1>So I had told her during pandemic, I was doing

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a legal activity with weed or whatever. Yeah, her my

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>company like crashed and burned, like personally of COVID, Like

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I had an events company that was like the second

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the NBA canceled, it was over. So I was doing

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>like terrible stuff. We lost a crazy amount of money.

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Don't even like thinking about it. But I also followed

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>SBA loans, so I'm still paying board. But anyways, I

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>had called Dolly and I was like, I want to

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>do the show eating while broke but I had been

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>out the industry for like ten years, and I was like, yo,

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you're still doing walling out this now? Mind you. Nick

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 1>was also getting canceled for wilding out at the time,

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>for the jew comments whatever, So I call her up like, yo,

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if I have industry contacts anymore. Whatever,

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>fuck with me for real. So since you just left

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>walling out and you probably had more plugs, you come

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>on board eating while broke this idea, I have, not

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>knowing that Charlemagne was like within six months of that

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>conversation making her president of Black effect to which on

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>a call, you know, and you see the snowball effect

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.080
<v Speaker 1>of like right place, right time. But I went I

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>do the same thing kind of that you went through

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.719
<v Speaker 1>with Wheezy, where it was like, look, I may have

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>a negative part. And I'm also shy about the fact

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that I had been out the game so long and

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>then to come back and be like, hey, I want

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>to do this show. And by the way, guys, I'm

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna be on the other side of the camera that

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you would never expect me to be on. So you know,

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>it's nobody had faith I could do it or whatever.

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Was it scary for you.

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>It was mainly scary because Dolly was like, Yo, we

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>should have pretty V doing and I was like, I

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>like pretty V. But this show needs to be real stories,

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>like it can't be gimmicky. We're not making fun of

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>this place. We're inspiring from this place. Yeah, and so

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's gonna have to be me and

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I been I was pregnant and Dolly was like absolute,

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 1>not only are you going to first time, but you're

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna be pregnant. I was like, Cardi B's rapping on

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 1>stage right now with a belly, Like I'm thank God

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>for Cardi B. And she flew in and was like,

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna see if you can do this. And that

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>was scary because Dolly showed up and I was like,

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>scare And then she said right after I was done,

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>she was like, this is you. This is where you're

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be at and I was like what and

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 1>she was like you you can stay.

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's awesome, And I was like, yeah, that's awesome.

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm about to embark on that journey as well. So

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 2>it's like now my next move, I'm working on a

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 2>show for myself. Yeah. So it's like we all see

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 2>the discourse online. It's like it's so polarizing, and so

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 2>this side versus that side, and it's like everybody's in

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 2>their echo chambers and stuff like that, and I don't

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 2>feel that's a good representation of what people really are.

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 2>And so this show it's like a play on old

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 2>school radio where it's just like you know, the call

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>in radio. You have a topic and then everybody calls

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 2>and tells us how they feel about it. But now

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 2>it's like my new age take to it is you

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>have to show your face, so there's no hiding behind everything.

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>It's all video call So it's a live show, a

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>live show.

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Every live show live.

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 2>So I do it on YouTube every Sunday eleven o'clock

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 2>and then if you want to call in, you have

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 2>to sign up to a Patreon. So it's like I

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>want you to be invested if you actually want to,

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, give your take or whatever. But everybody can

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>watch your free It's but it's so fun.

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I get you already started it.

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've been like doing practice episodes. So here's another thing.

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Afraid to fail. I've been doing practice episodes maybe like

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 2>a couple of months now, and it's like the show

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 2>is rated. I think it's amazing, and I'm just so

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>nervous to like announce it publicly. And here's probably the

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 2>first place that I'm talking about it publicly right now.

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 2>And so I'm nervous in this book.

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh when you let me know when the weeks we

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>sign it.

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 2>But it's called A m Mornings, I probably should see.

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy with all your success that you still have

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>this bug in you.

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I like just doing stuff new and that

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 2>excites me. If if I don't, if I'm not excited,

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 2>or if I don't want to do anything, I have

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 2>the luxury that I don't have to do it.

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>No, the bug I was talking about is that fair? Bud?

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh? The fair?

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Because you would think you would think that with all

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>your leads, you would say, okay, you don't have the fear,

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>especially even now that you've been on the other side

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>of the couch, you've been on the flagrant that you've

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>been on this side, right, Yeah, but you still have

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that like scared to release fear of failure in front

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>of people.

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so flagrant. It's an easier lift for me because

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like I can imagine the cameras aren't there,

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just talking with my friends that I've been

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 2>friends with over ten years now, and also Andrew and Akosh.

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>They're the big stars, like they drive the show. Like

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of there, you know, supplementary to them driving

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:34.479
<v Speaker 2>the show, and so I don't feel that I have

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 2>to drive it. So it's like a lot less pressure

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 2>on me. This one. It's like, oh shit, I'm doing

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 2>a show. I'm the host. And it's like, so that's

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 2>why it's it's nerve racking.

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Where do you tape your show up?

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 2>At my studio?

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Here?

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 2>The Midtown one. Okay, you should see the new set.

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>The new set is Oh, I gotta go see. I

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>want to try and see it before I least the white.

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Cycle and I have another side that looks so dope. Yeah.

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I just each set, I just keep making better. I

0:32:59.080 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 2>love it.

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I love it well, I love it all right. So

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I was so you and Weezy. I thought you guys

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>had met through horrible, but it sounds like you guys

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>had a long.

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, we actually we met through horrible. Yeah. I

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 2>met her because she was trying to get signed with

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 2>loud Speaker, which Brilliant Idiots is also under it's owned

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 2>by like Chris Murrow, and so I just bumped into

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.959
<v Speaker 2>her and Mandy when they were like waiting to have

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 2>a meeting and they were talking with other people about

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 2>their show. So I'm just like overhearing, I was like,

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 2>oh shit, the concept this is fire, Like I can

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 2>spot good content. And at the time, they were only

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 2>doing audio, and I was like, guys, this has to

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>be video, Like you have to add the video component.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 2>And they were like, well, you know, one money time

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 2>all that type of stuff. I was like, you have

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 2>to do video. Let me provide video for you. And

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 2>the first couple months I was working for him, I

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 2>was barely getting paid. So that's one of those things

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 2>where it's like even at the time I was doing jobs,

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I was doing that for free or I think maybe

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 2>I was getting fifty dollars some low amount. But yeah.

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 2>But then at some point video to their show and

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 2>then their show like four x stoor like four hundred

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 2>x some.

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Crazy number of course, because now you have the beautiful faces.

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like, people need to know that.

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>What I thought was interesting and I thought about this

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:20.720
<v Speaker 1>with your story was at some point you guys separate,

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and I think what I saw from it

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>as an outsider was like you established your worth, right,

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you established the value you bring and then there was

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 1>obviously a disagreement, whether it was pay or or whatever.

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I asked for fifty.

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Dollars fifty dollars more. I love that you did it

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.760
<v Speaker 1>and risk walking away because I think sometimes that triples

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:43.399
<v Speaker 1>your value where people go. You could try to head

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>your bets with someone that costs less, but are they

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna one care about it? Are they going to have

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 1>enough integrity to really care about the end product, which

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 1>you always do, Like even in my studio, we don't

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>have these cameras. You know what I'm saying. These cameras

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.319
<v Speaker 1>are like ten times what you even know.

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I like detail out like quality.

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, but I think that it said a lot

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>when you walked because it also showed that they it developed,

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 1>like we need him right and did you see that?

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I did see it, and you know not, you know,

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 2>there's still my friend. But it's funny because you know,

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 2>after I stepped away, they were the show didn't look

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 2>as good. But yeah, but they figured it out, they

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 2>rebound it. They're great there. I'm actually working back with

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 2>them now. But now I'm there creative director instead of

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 2>the producer. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, but yeah, like and

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's just just how I operate, Like I

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 2>go by energy. If something feels good, I stay there.

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 2>If it doesn't feel good out Okay, I've never been

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 2>afraid to leave something.

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you think the fear of I wouldn't. I don't know.

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Obviously you had your therapy session. You're saying, but you

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>say fear of failure as an entrepreneur at this point,

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>do you really categorize it as like a fear of failure.

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't understand the fear of failure in front of others.

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I get that, I get that, but the fear of

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.439
<v Speaker 1>failure as an entrepreneur if you've succeeded so.

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Much, I mean, this ship could stop any moment. Like

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I never feel like I did it, you know, because

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>it's like, hey, what if people just stop wanting the podcast?

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm kind of fucked. But yeah, like I

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I think doing it, I'm more it's less fear for

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 2>me to try other like entrepreneurial you know, task like

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I I can start a business. I probably have seven

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 2>businesses right now.

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Awesome, that's pretty good though, it's really good. It's good

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:47.359
<v Speaker 1>at juggling and delegating. Yes, So what were what would

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>what would you say are the key things that keep

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:52.280
<v Speaker 1>you on top of the surfboard?

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 2>First would say, if you're with someone, have an amazing partner.

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:01.320
<v Speaker 2>My fiance is phenomenal. She makes me a better person,

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 2>so that's great. And then your team, Like I have

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 2>a great assistant, he keeps me. He's probably the person

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 2>you've been talking to in emails because I just give

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 2>a passwords yeah Texas VI Texas.

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 2>But if you're talking in emails, it's not me most

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 2>of the time. But yeah, And it's just like, yeah,

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 2>just have a good team around you and surround yourself

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 2>with good people, good energy, like the same way. I've

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 2>learned so much from Charlotte and Andrew. They've had the

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 2>same good people around them like for the longest and

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 2>that's part of their success. And so I just I

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 2>see them do something and it works. I'm same.

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.760
<v Speaker 1>What about cash flow and budgeting money stuff?

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 2>So I've had to learn that because coming out of

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 2>the regular corporate American world, it was like, you know,

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 2>you have a guarantee check whatever the case is. The

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 2>taxes get taken out and all that stuff. I remember

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 2>the first year where I was officially like working as

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 2>a contractor and not like a nine to five. I

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 2>wasn't putting money away for taxes, and then that first

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 2>tax bill, I was like, oh shit, like that was

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 2>a shock. Gotten a lot better at that now, but yeah, like,

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:11.240
<v Speaker 2>thankfully this studio is working. Thankfully, Flagrance doing phenomenal where

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty comfortable and like now I'm able to like

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>have a little fun because it's like before it was

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 2>just for ten years straight, I just had my head

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 2>down and I was working.

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>But how do you balance the cash flow and the

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>growth of the companies with employees and payroll and all that.

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:29.760
<v Speaker 2>So with we have like team that does all the accounting,

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 2>payroll and all that stuff. But another thing I'm really

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 2>proud about at WTF, like we pay more than everybody.

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I've I wouldn't say recruited people, but there'd be

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.879
<v Speaker 2>people that worked at other podcast studios that came here

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:44.399
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, holy should I make double working there?

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's like I have some engineers that made six figures. Wow, Yeah,

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 2>that's so amazing. Yeah, And like in New York you

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 2>need to make some money to survive in this state.

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:57.840
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we just luckily with the success of the

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:02.399
<v Speaker 2>first one first studio. I mean we've I haven't had

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 2>to like get any outside money, any outside funding. We

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 2>just paid off the studio, made more money, opened another

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 2>studio with that money, and so we're just doing it slow.

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 2>If we were to get like a investor, we can

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 2>probably open up ten studios tomorrow. But I like it

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:20.479
<v Speaker 2>going out of space.

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, stay still, yeah, okay, well, where can everybody keep

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 1>up everything Alex? Which, by the way, I I've always

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>liked Alex. I like this extra X on it. I

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 1>literally always think about it whatever I see. I like

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the extra ex makes so much sense, and like, what

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>a creative mom, only to find out that the mom

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist. I like the brand. I love it, and

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the whole Alex media is just so nice awesome.

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 2>But now I know everybody knows me as Alex. Now,

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 2>like the only people will call them my real neighbor

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 2>is my mom and maybe a couple of my best

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:02.439
<v Speaker 2>friends from childhood. No, she calls me Alex. She met

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 2>me as Alex. That's crazy.

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like when it's funny because now I was

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>talking to my little brother Eagle. He's like, I know, Alan,

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you know my little I was like, I don't think

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:12.760
<v Speaker 1>he knows what we're related.

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:14.240
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I did not know you were related.

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>He was my little brother and he was like.

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 2>The comedian right, yeah, I did not know.

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Whenever people find out and I'm like the wits, the wit,

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, yes, I call him. I describe him as

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:31.479
<v Speaker 1>the guy that he just surprisingly hasn't gotten canceled yet.

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>He straddles that fan so well. He straddles that one

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the one wheel bike. He straddles it and

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, somehow missed it.

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Those people I love to be around the right there.

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>They just and you love to watch it because it's

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:52.479
<v Speaker 1>like so great. But you're like, so maw, he's made

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it out. Yeah so but and Thensama was like Alex yeah,

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yeah, I finally get to sit

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:00.879
<v Speaker 1>down with him. But they thank you so much for

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>sitting down and having some cheerios with me. Yes, og classic,

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:06.879
<v Speaker 1>and I hope to get a picture from you later.

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 2>It's honey with honey nut cheerios, It's sugar with frusted flakes,

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:12.919
<v Speaker 2>and it's cinnamon with cinnamon toe.

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Scrunch cinnamon on extra cinnamon on the cinnamon to scrunch.

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Now cinnamon and sugar.

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Na, Actually I would do cinnamon and.

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Sugar, but now too in the containers. Now really you

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 1>can get the cinnamon sugar.

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Mane Oh shit, see I should have invented that.

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, thank you so much for tuning into

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>another episode of Eating while broke. Keep up with everything

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>alex media and can you shout out the new show? Oh?

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so the new show it's called A m Mornings.

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.319
<v Speaker 2>You can just go to AM Mornings dot com and

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 2>you find out all the information from there. It's live

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 2>every Sunday eleven am YouTube. It's really fun. Check it out.

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Shout out WTF studios.

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely if this is the best podcast studio

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.720
<v Speaker 2>in the world, so head over to WTF Media Studios

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 2>dot com. We have locations in New York, LA. We

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.799
<v Speaker 2>also do off site and we do that around the world.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 2>If you want to shoot a podcast, I've shoten podcasts

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 2>in Paris, I've shotten all over America. Yeah, we do

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 2>that and we keep our casts very low so that

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 2>way we can provide a good service and you can

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 2>afford it.

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you. Guys, peace out, peace