1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating Wild Broke. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coley Witt, and today we have very 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: special guests, Alex Media in the building. Usually I do 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: not read bios or anything, but this is very short, 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: but I want you guys to get a full encompass 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: of what Alex does. So. Alex Media is a filmmaker 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: and producer recognized for his work across major comedy and 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: digital platforms. He's a co host of Flagrant Podcasts, which 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: we all know and love, the director of Andrew Schultz 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: Netflix special Schultz Saves America, producer on the Brilliant Idiots podcast, 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: co owner of WTF Studios, where we are today. We 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: are not in studio, so he will not be cooking 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: for us, and which is a full service production facility, 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: which if you've watched any of our remote remote episodes 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: we always tape at WTF. We don't cheat on him 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: unless he is overbooked, which today he was slightly overbooked, 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: very very overbooked, And so I cheated on him for 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: like a micro one session down the street, and I 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: came right back to where I belong WTF Always I 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: forgive it. Yeah, I had no choice. 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Forgive, but we fixed that problem. We're adding another space 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: we did. 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm in. You know, I'm going to speak some 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: other good things into fruition for La too. You know, 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 1: we'll see. But anyways, before we get into Alex's story, 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: we got to know what you and I are going 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: to be eating today. 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So my struggle meal. When I was young, I 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: had a lot of cereal because I didn't know how 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: to cook. And to this day, to this day, I 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: still don't know how to cook. 32 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: So you still don't know how to don't know how 33 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: to cook? Okay. 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: I make two things I could do steak like a 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: nice restaurant sake. 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: And I love how you added that you could really 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: do this steak, you know, like not. 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: Just regular steak, like good stick cut steak. And a 39 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: mac and cheese. My mac and cheese. I took my 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: mom's recipe, I improved it a little bit, and I 41 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: make it one time a year Thanksgiving. 42 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I love how you also semi hated on 43 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: your mom in that bit. 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I gotta give it a credit. It's 45 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: not like I came up with the recipe, but I 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: took her recipe. 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: And improved it though. Okay, so not only did you 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: improve her dish, I'm wondering how Yeah, go ahead open it. 49 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna be eating it. So Alex has a nice 50 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: twist to his honey nut cherryos. I have never had this. 51 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: Go ahead, tell tell everybody what we're doing to this honey. 52 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: So when I was young, I also like sweets. I 53 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: had a problem with sweets up until about a year 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: ago when I was diagnosed as being pre diabetic. So 55 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: now I got I got everything. 56 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, diagnosed, I'd be thinking I'm invincible when it comes 57 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: to candy. But it's possible. 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a problem. It's anything sweet in the house. 59 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: It's gone in like five minutes. But now and now 60 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: I got it under wrapt. So this might send me, 61 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: you know, relas me. But Okaynat, I don't. 62 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: Oh, he does have it. Okay, the sarment. So we're 63 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: gonna do the So are you gonna live large tonight? Yeah? Yeah, okay, okay. 64 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: So we got the terials and then I would either 65 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: add sugar or honey, but the honey. I would steal 66 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: the packets from McDonald's cause they would have the honey 67 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: packets that you would get. Oh yeah, yeah, but it's 68 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: better with the honey, cause honey cheerios. You know, you 69 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: gotta stay on bread. 70 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: I've never done this, so go ahead. 71 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: So you got stay over here. So you gotta lightly 72 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: lightly drizzle, but you have to cover all the surface 73 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: area and then once you do that, oh yeah, it 74 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: don't matter, it's all going the same place. 75 00:03:59,600 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Okay. 76 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, nice little circular motion. You gotta cover all 77 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: the top. Yeah yah, you should have saw it. You 78 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: should have saw my frosted flakes. Yuh, like I used 79 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: to cover it and sugar. It's crazy. Also, they're not 80 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: gonna be able to hear you. 81 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: Okay, so I didn't know if you were like black 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: post or whatever, but I was like, you know, what. 83 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: Are you wearing a wireless bike? 84 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: No? 85 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: Oh, they're not gonna be able to. 86 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: I forgot. 87 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, we doing podcasting alright. But then it's very important. 88 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: The same way you did that with the honey, you 89 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: have to do it with the milk. You have to 90 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: pour the milk slow and like cover the honey or 91 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: else it's not gonna like break down. 92 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, cause I see it grouping up. 93 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: There exactly, So you gotta like that and make sure 94 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: you get all the spots. 95 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: And when did you come up with this theory? 96 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: When when you're a kid you got mad time for. 97 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: Someone that doesn't cook, you invested a lot. 98 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: Okay, but I had a lot of cereals, so I 99 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: had taught to you don't change it. I've tried different things. 100 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: When was the last time you had this dish? 101 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: It's been years? Like cereal, I try to stay away from, 102 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: you know, the carbs. Now I'm just high protein, low 103 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: carb diet. So this is gonna be a nice low 104 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: treat for myself. 105 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a treat. But I want to see, 106 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: like how much nostalgia comes from you eating this? 107 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: Oh man, this is gonna spike my insulin happily. 108 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: But you're pre pre right. Do you have to monitor 109 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: your insulin if you're Look how happy he is. 110 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: Look at that you got you gotta I'm on now, 111 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: come on now, I ain't. 112 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: Gonna I purposely tried to get the spoon with the 113 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: honey on it. I'm not gonna front. Yo, you live, 114 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: you live. 115 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: Mm after I do it, my mom's back and you know, 116 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: little change make it a little better. 117 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I would totally do that as 118 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: an adult moving forward like this is really good. 119 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would to, and I'm probably gonna do 120 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: this when I get home now. Yeah, oh that. 121 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: Was good, Yo, that was actually really good, like really good, 122 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: impressively good shout outs to. So take me back to 123 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: that era. What was going on in the household? What 124 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: was the household looking like? 125 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: So I grew up in far Rockaway, Queens. It's not 126 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: the best. It's probably a low income neighborhood. And my 127 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: parents got divorced when I was eleven, so single mom, 128 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: household and yeah, so you know, money was always tight. 129 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: And I wouldn't say we didn't have food on the table, 130 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: but it's just like, as a person who didn't cook, 131 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: I would have to wait for my mom to come home, 132 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: and she would usually come home late from work and 133 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: we would get dinner. But up until then, you got 134 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: a fan for myself. 135 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: And this was the classic, the og classic. And when 136 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: you were getting these honey packers curious, it was like 137 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: you going home from school, You like, man, that cheriot 138 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: is gonna be hitting different today. 139 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, And. 140 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: So you would go and like grab your little honey 141 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: package that along the way I'm literally envisioned because. 142 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: You know, like you know, you would stop in McDonald's babies. 143 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes you can get the happy meals. Sometimes you just 144 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: you know, steal some ketchup packages. There's some sugar, some money, 145 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: whatever you need. 146 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: Okay. So single parent, household kind of walk me towards 147 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: you becoming an entrepreneur, creator, filmmaker, producer. What is like 148 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: the first steps of like tingling in that direction. 149 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: Oh wow, so that came much later in life. I 150 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: never knew what I wanted to do, so I'll try 151 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: to speed through it because I've lived a lot of lives. 152 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: Like you know, back when I was younger, I was 153 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: kind of, you know, a knucklehead, like getting into dumb shit, 154 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: gang stuff, selling drugs, that type of bullshit. And then 155 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: but I also got straight a's in school, so it's 156 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: like I kind of like lived the double life. I 157 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: was like a nerd when I go to school and 158 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: then I come home and hang out with gangsters. So 159 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: it was just like I always just got experience to 160 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: a lot and not sure what I actually wanted to do. 161 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: Fast forward to when I started working, Like you know, 162 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: I was because I was an entrepreneur with you know, 163 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: drug stuff. I just always wanted to make money. So 164 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: it's like, even throughout high school, I was working, so 165 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: I would leave school. I had a part time job 166 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: at like kmart cafe or whatever, and then I got 167 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: a sales job. I didn't like that, but I was 168 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: making good money, like for some reason on telemarketing and 169 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: I could I could sell some cable. 170 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: So did you do you know if you liked the 171 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: idea of making money more or did you like what 172 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: you could do with the money more? 173 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: What I can do with the money. I like the freedom. 174 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: Okay, so you liked what you could buy with the 175 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: money or the freedom to do. 176 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: To do stuff that I wanted to do. Yeah, Because 177 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: it's like I lived in far Rockaway, which is like 178 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: about maybe like almost an hour and a half two 179 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: hour drive from Manhattan, but I would like to come 180 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: into Manhattan. So I hated that train ride, and so 181 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: I wanted a car. So in like sixteen, I was 182 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: able to buy myself a car. Yeah, an entrepreneur. Yeah, 183 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: So I was like driving into the city, driving all 184 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: my friends and stuff like that, getting into a bunch 185 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: of trouble, but you know, yeah, and what. 186 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: Was your mom feeling about your entrepreneurial ways in the 187 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: fact that you could manage money. 188 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: She never knew what you never knew? 189 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: So how did you get a car without her? Like figures? 190 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: I had a job, like I had the Kmart cafe. 191 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so you had got it so very smart. Okay. 192 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: So and she didn't catch on when you buy a car. 193 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: I mean, she didn't like the people I hung out with, 194 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: but like you know, I was. I didn't get in 195 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: trouble and I was get good grades and stuff like that. 196 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: So only child, No, I have an older sistant. 197 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, so you're doing your entrepreneur thing. What's 198 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: your first big legit entrepreneur play. 199 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 2: I feel like this studio is the one. Yeah, because 200 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: it's like I didn't know what I wanted to do 201 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: in life. I just knew that I wanted to be 202 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: happy doing whatever I did. So it's like I went 203 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: to college. I studied psychology at first, didn't want to 204 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: do that. Then I switched over to nursing. I actually 205 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 2: went to nursing school. I'm a graduated r N took 206 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: my end collects. I could be a nurse if I 207 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: wanted to, but now things expired. At this point I 208 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: didn't like nursing. Then I went to law enforcement. I 209 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: became a court officer here at Manhattan Supreme Criminal Court. 210 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: I did that for about three and a half years, 211 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: and then the editing thing was just fun. Like I 212 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 2: used to just do that, a fun little thing on 213 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: the side, where it's like me and my friends, we 214 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: would like go on vacations and I would tell all 215 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: of them, yo, send me a picture, send me your videos, 216 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: and now I would just like edit it together and 217 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: make us like a little promo real just so we 218 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: could throw it on MySpace or something like that. And 219 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: so I enjoyed doing that. I didn't know that was 220 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: necessarily a job. So then I just started to reach 221 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: out to people I liked and I admired. I liked 222 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: hip hop, and I liked comedy. And at the time, 223 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: Sipha Sounds he was DJ at Hot ninety seven, and 224 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: then he also was starting to do stand up, so 225 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 2: like I reached out to him initially because I was like, oh, hey, 226 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: I see you're pivoting to do, you know, stand up? 227 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: Is there any additional way I could help you? I 228 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: just offered help. 229 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: Wow, And that was like a DM. 230 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, just a cold DM. And so I started following 231 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: him and first time ever picking up a camera, but 232 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: I just lied and said like, oh yeah, I know 233 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: how to use the camera and shit like that. I 234 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: just borrowed my friend's camera and was following him on 235 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: DJ sets, and then I would also film him doing 236 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 2: like a little bit of stand up and stuff like that. 237 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: And from there I kind of just like got better 238 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: at it and then met more people within an industry. 239 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: So then I met Andrew, and I started working alongside 240 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: with Andrew, and that around the time I met him 241 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: was when I was a court officer, so I was 242 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 2: like doing my court officer job. But then also I 243 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: would leave during my lunch break and film brilliant adiosts. 244 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: Wow. 245 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would have it because they the iHeart 246 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: building was like right across the street, so I would 247 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: like just take off my fucking vest and I would 248 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 2: still be in my uniform and shit and a runover 249 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: set up the cameras film brilliant Idiots run back. So 250 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: many times I got in trouble because I would come 251 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: back late from filming and. 252 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: You would have to be very Oh you said you 253 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: would be. 254 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: Late, yeaheah, I would be. I got in trouble quite 255 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: a bit. 256 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, so you're doing this, At what point do 257 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: you start to say I'm making money doing this. 258 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: It got to a point where I just couldn't do both. So, 259 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 2: like I got good to the fact that a lot 260 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: of people were requesting my services and I just didn't 261 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: have enough time. And then like Andrew took me aside. 262 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: He's like, yo, I need a full time videographer. And 263 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: it's like Pete gave me an amount and it was 264 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 2: more than I was making at the time from the 265 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: court office job. And so I just left that. 266 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: Now, backtrack, before Andrew did that, how were you able 267 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: to set your rates? That had to been a process 268 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: for you too, right, that. 269 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: Was super difficult. Like I even to this day, like 270 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: I got an assistant or manager just because I don't 271 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: like to have those, So it was like whatever they offered. 272 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: So, yeah, the time you had started, you had started 273 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: doing it pro bono, right yeah. Yeah, and then like. 274 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't even get paid. I don't think I didn't 275 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: get paid until probably working with Andrew. 276 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, shout outs to Andrew. 277 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, so sometimes white Man's good. Yeah. 278 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: So okay, so you're doing so you go full time 279 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: with Andrew, but you're still doing side stuff. I can't 280 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: imagine to go one hundred percent like. 281 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: Some things as favors, like I'm doing it, you know, 282 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: just because I admire or like the people's work, like 283 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: sometimes they would hit me off or something, but it 284 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: wasn't significant to leave my job type money. 285 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: So you were doing like more BTS for Andrew. When 286 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: do you start doing get the special or was the 287 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: special part of the package? 288 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 2: No, So when he brought me on to do full time, 289 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: that meant I followed him everywhere. So every single weekend 290 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: he was on the road doing I filmed every single 291 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 2: show and then I would edit the show down and 292 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: we would find clips that we can post because he 293 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: was one of the first comics to post a joke 294 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: a week like nobody else was doing that because it's 295 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: like they tore that same material. They don't want to 296 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: burn it. But he's like a genius when it comes 297 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: to comedy, and his crowd work is like unbelievable, So 298 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: we can use those crowd work moments because those are 299 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: you know, once in a it's only going to happen 300 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: that moment, so you can burn those. And so I 301 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: was filming. I was filming and editing Brilliant Idiots Flagrant, 302 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: following him on the road every weekend editing his stand up. 303 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: We were also doing another like vlog series and stuff 304 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: like that. So I was pumping out at one time 305 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: six hours of original content. Wow per week like filming editing. 306 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're also getting to travel on all this, 307 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: So I had like all these amazing perks. 308 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, amazing. Yeah, I've seen all of America, even 309 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: the not so fun parts, go to America, I've seen 310 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: it all. And then traveled the world with him. Yeah. 311 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: It was dope. 312 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: And then how did you end up meeting him? 313 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: I think through Cyphus Sounds. He was a guest on 314 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: Cypher's podcast at the time. And then, funny enough, my 315 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: name's not actually Alex. I just chose a fake name 316 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: because I was in law enforcement and I didn't want 317 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: to get whatever I was doing outside to like get 318 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: me in any trouble, and so I chose a random name, 319 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: Alex Anderson. Just so happens, Andrew knows some comic named 320 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: Alex Anderson. So when I reached out to him via DM, 321 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: he thought he was talking to that other person that 322 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: whole time for about like four months. So we were 323 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: going back and forth, and he used to do this 324 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: thing where he's like, oh, thought of the thought of 325 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: the day or something like that. He would just like 326 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: walk around notice something and like film a front facing 327 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: video just to his ig stories of like funny take 328 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: on that thing. Every day I would grab it, edit it, 329 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: send it back to him and like, oh what do 330 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: you think of This just annoyed him for about like 331 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: maybe two months doing that shit, and he would like respond, 332 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: He's like, oh I like it, Oh tweak this, But 333 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: then he would never post it. I'm like, why are 334 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: you doing this? You're never going to use the fucking ship, 335 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: but you like it. He thought he was talking to 336 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: his friend that holds up. 337 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: Wow, that's why he wasn't posting it. 338 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. So then when we finally met 339 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: in person on Seipha's podcast, I was like, oh, yeah, 340 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: I'm Alex. You've been talking to He's like, so we 341 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: just have a funny laugh after that, and then he 342 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: was like, oh shit, I know, like this is what 343 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: you do. 344 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: And so then he was like all them times, these 345 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: videos I could have been using it. That's incredible. I 346 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: think a lot of people think money, money, money, But 347 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: it's just funny how like indirectly you pursuing like a 348 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: passion project ended up, you know, redirecting your past. 349 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just never like to do anything I don't 350 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: want to do, and I've been blessed enough where i 351 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: haven't had to do it for that long. So like jobs, 352 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: I didn't like it, I just wouldn't stay very long. 353 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you pivoted out really really. Wait, I learned 354 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: that about waitressing and fast food when I was like 355 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: a teenager. I said, oh, these are two industries you 356 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: can't be and I knew right away. I said, you 357 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: have to you have to be successful at something because 358 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: this right here is not your thing. 359 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. But and like court officer was like a glorified 360 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: security guard and no offense to the job. But it's 361 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: like it was just so boring, Like it's like I'm 362 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: just literally standing there telling people shut up, take your 363 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: hat off, quiet down, like for eight hours. 364 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine you're doing that. 365 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you. 366 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: Gotta send us like a throwback pick though. 367 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think I still got one up on 368 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: my Instagram scrollback. 369 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so then at what point does so you're you're 370 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: growing with Flavorant. Now Flavorant are you a founding member 371 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: of Flagrant? 372 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: So I started it with them, but I only started 373 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: as production. 374 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'd end up on the other side. 375 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 2: It was honestly, I just got close with the guys 376 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: because I would see him so often and we would 377 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 2: have great banter. So I have extreme stage right, Like, 378 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: if you put me in front of a group of 379 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: people ask me to talk, I'm gonna have a panic 380 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 2: at Like, I don't like it. I don't like attention, 381 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: even this is low whatever, but I've gotten better at it. 382 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: So they just noticed, or I guess they saw something 383 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: in me where it's like, oh, you know, like he 384 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: has good things to offer to the show. So they 385 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: just added a mic in the room. So even though 386 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: I'm behind the cameras, they just had given me my 387 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: own mic. So if I added anything to the conversation, like, 388 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: feel free to do it. And so it was just 389 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: like a slow roll into it to the point where 390 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: it's like I became a voice on the show. And 391 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: then yeah, and then Andrew was just like, yo, it's time. 392 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: Stop stop hiding. 393 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah time, I love that. 394 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love your guys. Dynamic. I feel like he's 395 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: definitely like one believes in you and just keeps throwing like, oh. 396 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an awesome guy. He's misunderstood to a lot 397 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: of people, but he's he's an awesome person. 398 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: He means well, I can see that. 399 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 400 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't know though, but I can see it. I 401 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: can see you know, you could tell a lot of 402 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: about people by like who they surround themselves with. And 403 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: he's surrounded with Charlemagne and everybody. You're like, okay, you good, 404 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: good people good. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You 405 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: gotta give it. So where does WTF end up coming in? 406 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: Okay? So then so I'm working for him full time 407 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: where traveling, and then the pandemic happens, and so now 408 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: half of my work is cut because we can all 409 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: longer travel, he can't do shows, and so I'm like, 410 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: oh shit, this is a big monetary hit. Yeah, and 411 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: I'm like I need to come up with, you know, 412 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: something else, another revenue stream and then something that's like 413 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: COVID proof. So this like this came to me where 414 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: it's like, hey, working with him, I've had to figure 415 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: out how to do everything because we would just shoot 416 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: stuff guerrilla style where it's just like, hey, we're gonna 417 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: do a commercial shoot, we need this is this figure 418 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: it out? And so then I had to learn lights, 419 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: I had to learn audio, I had to learn camera. 420 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: I had to learn editing and how you learn YouTube 421 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: and stuff YouTube. Yeah, YouTube University for the most part, 422 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: and just trial and error. I definitely made some mistakes. 423 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: Document the mistakes of like me fucking up audio and 424 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 2: past episodes of Flagrant and just like not just missing something, 425 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: or like if a power line is touching an audio line, 426 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: you get this little buzzing in Yeah. 427 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: We had that at our studios. It is we'd be like, 428 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: unplug everything. 429 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 2: The power line is touching an audio line, you get 430 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: a buzz. 431 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: And mother, that's what you just cured. So many problems 432 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: for our studio right now. They'd be like, RACOLLI replace 433 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: the XLRS. Replace it. I'm like, yo, I don't think 434 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: it's the XLRS. They just don't just wake up one 435 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: day and say we're expired. 436 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of it was just trialing error 437 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: and then I just got good. And so the idea 438 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: was like, hey, I been We've had to shoot our 439 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: podcast at so many studios that were shiit like really 440 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: just like bad customer service, poor conditions. I can do 441 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: this better, and so I basically emptied out my savings, 442 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: took out a little business loan, and I first spoke 443 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: about the I spoke about the idea with Weezy because, like, 444 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: Weezy's like one of my best friends. 445 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: Let me just tell you I'm not gay or anything, 446 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: but if I had like a choice to be gay, 447 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: Weezy would be my number one. 448 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 2: I mean she's by though, you know what. 449 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like if God forbid, like it would never happen, 450 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: like one hundred percent would never happen. You're straight all 451 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: the way. But like if someone was like, you have 452 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: to Weezy personality, Weezy on everything. Personality of course supersedes 453 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: her looks. Honestly, Weezy would be my number one. 454 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: She's my best tie. But that ship out of it, 455 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: I could like was. 456 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: She was my favorite episode of Eating While Broke and 457 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: we've done five seasons. There's another girl that now rivals her, 458 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: but Weezy. If people would be like, who's your favorite episode, 459 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: I'd be like, Wheezy, Wheezy's my fuck favorite. 460 00:21:55,160 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: Hopefully this hope, but probably not your story. 461 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: He has stories, yeah, like stalkers and ship like I 462 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: had so many problems after her episode. 463 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: I was like, oh really bad. Oh yeah that we 464 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: have a bad stalker guy and yeah, talk about it. 465 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: But no, so I wanted to hear this, this story 466 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: about how you and weazy so you hit up wheezy. 467 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, And this is funny that we're having this 468 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: conversation now because I was talking with this comic last 469 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: night Alex Babbitt, funny guy, and we were like it 470 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: was like a therapy session. He's like, you know, why 471 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 2: do you think you have this stage fright or whatever? 472 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: And it's like I couldn't figure it out. And eventually, 473 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: long story short, we got to the point is I'm 474 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: afraid of failing, and then I'm afraid of failing in 475 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: front of people. That makes it worse. So it's like, wow, 476 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: that's deep. 477 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: That was all in want. 478 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, like we we was going in it 479 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: and I really think that's the thing. It's like I 480 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 2: don't like to fail, Like I like to do things 481 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: that I feel confident or passionate about because then I 482 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: put my effort into it, and talking in front of people, 483 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: I don't feel confidence, so I never attempt to do it, 484 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: and it makes it even scarier because I'm like, oh, 485 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to fuck up and say something wrong in 486 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: front of people. 487 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: And then it's like, yeah, So I remember the first 488 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: time I met you, like four years ago, you did 489 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: seem very shy. 490 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 491 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know how we did it. I think 492 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: I said something to you. Maybe you're promoting WTF. But 493 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: I got your number, but you were very shy. I 494 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: was shy to at the time, but you were shy. 495 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: I'm still shy now. I just I've gotten a bit more, 496 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: especially being in front of the camera a bit more 497 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: with Flagrant. I've gotten a little bit more comfortable. But yeah, 498 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 2: I'm still the shy, introvert guy that liked to just 499 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: be behind the computer screen. That's my comfort zone. 500 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So take us back to you and weezy. 501 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 2: Okay, So we were drunk on a beach. I tell 502 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: her about the idea. I only feel comfortable telling her. 503 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I guess I'm just comfortable enough 504 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 2: with her. And I knew that because she works in 505 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: the industry, she would have like ideas that can make 506 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: this thing better. And then I'm like, you know what, 507 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm afraid of not being able to do this shit, 508 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 2: Come and do it with me, and so I really 509 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 2: just like I need you to help me, like make 510 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: this dream come true because I don't think I have 511 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: the capability to do it myself. 512 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, and that's what you said to. 513 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: Her, Yeah, something, But we were talking to Beach, so 514 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: probably it wasn't as. 515 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: It's interesting that you said that because you're the one 516 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: that had the idea, you had the the seed in you. 517 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 518 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you had and you clearly were going 519 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: to go on this track, but you just wanted a 520 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: partner to Yeah. 521 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 2: And then also it's like she has so many like 522 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: qualities that I lack, like being able to just put 523 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: yourself out there and out going, like she's great with promotion, marketing, 524 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: all that type of stuff. Me I I just want 525 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 2: to be the guy who connects a bunch of cameras 526 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: and lights and hope, you know, we can get a 527 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: good picture on screen and fill. 528 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: The space, right yeah. Yeah. Because also it's a significant 529 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: investment if you started in New York, right, Oh yeah, 530 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: it's versus La La La. There's some negotiations, but New 531 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: York is definitely. 532 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's rough, but yeah, we and it was just 533 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: an ideal during COVID. 534 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so then what's your next play? After that? 535 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: It was just perfect timing because it's like COVID, everybody's 536 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 2: home podcast boom is happening, so now everybody wants to 537 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: get into podcasting. So it took off after the first studio, 538 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: like within six months, we needed a second one, and 539 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 2: now we're like up to five in New York. And 540 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: then we have one. 541 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: We're five in New York. Yeah, how how could I 542 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: not get an extra studio? 543 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: Five in New York? 544 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: Where are the other locations? 545 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: So it's like each set I would consider one, so 546 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 2: this will count. And then Midtown we have two and now. 547 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah that's right, Okay, yes, you're right. 548 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: And then we just got another space in Midtown opening up. 549 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: And this one, I like, I tried something new, so 550 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: you know, like a white psych or like a white wall. 551 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 2: It looks like just an infinity room, So I just 552 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: built that inside of a studio. 553 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: Wow. 554 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 2: And then I have it like all set up for podcasting, commercials, 555 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 2: all that stuff. And I'm excited about this because white 556 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: Sykes you usually have to pay per thing so it's 557 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: like you can rent the space, but then you have 558 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: to pay extra for lights, you have to pay extra 559 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 2: for cameras, extra for audio. By the time you do that, 560 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: it's like maybe one thousand dollars for an hour. I'm 561 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: gonna do the same thing but offer it at like 562 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: four hundred dolls. So I'm just gonna undercut the whole industry. 563 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 2: And now you're probably. 564 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna be like, what app was it? 565 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: I what is it? 566 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: Steve? 567 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: When they used to steal Yeah, yeah, iTunes or whatever, 568 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: You're like, you're gonna do it again, but in video 569 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: and audio. I like that. Yeah. I used to always 570 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: wonder though, because you guys have such big, big names. 571 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: This is probably messed to ask on camera. But you 572 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: have so many you have people like my company that's 573 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: very small, and then you have some big talent right 574 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: that comes in. Do they all end up paying the 575 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: same price? 576 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was a thing that you know, I 577 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: wouldn't say we argued about, but we definitely went back 578 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: and forth, and I was like, you know, I want 579 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: to keep prices down because I definitely want our people 580 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: to be able to, you know, use the studio and yeah, 581 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: Like I just wanted accessible for everybody, and I think 582 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: that's part of why we're so busy. It's because, yeah, 583 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: it's affordable. I should rent this out for a lot more. 584 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: But I want everybody to be able to And I 585 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: personally feel good that It's like I'm providing a space 586 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: for people to, you know, try to do something and 587 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: if they take if their show takes off, it's like 588 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: that shit started here. It's like dope. And I've had 589 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 2: a lot of success stories of people signing pretty big 590 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 2: deals after they started here. 591 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: Oh please let that. Yeah, even though I was very lucky, 592 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: I did a similar thing with Dolly at La La 593 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: So I had told her during pandemic, I was doing 594 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: a legal activity with weed or whatever. Yeah, her my 595 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: company like crashed and burned, like personally of COVID, Like 596 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: I had an events company that was like the second 597 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: the NBA canceled, it was over. So I was doing 598 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: like terrible stuff. We lost a crazy amount of money. 599 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: Don't even like thinking about it. But I also followed 600 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: SBA loans, so I'm still paying board. But anyways, I 601 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: had called Dolly and I was like, I want to 602 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: do the show eating while broke but I had been 603 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: out the industry for like ten years, and I was like, yo, 604 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: you're still doing walling out this now? Mind you. Nick 605 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: was also getting canceled for wilding out at the time, 606 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: for the jew comments whatever, So I call her up like, yo, 607 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I have industry contacts anymore. Whatever, 608 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: fuck with me for real. So since you just left 609 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: walling out and you probably had more plugs, you come 610 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: on board eating while broke this idea, I have, not 611 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: knowing that Charlemagne was like within six months of that 612 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: conversation making her president of Black effect to which on 613 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: a call, you know, and you see the snowball effect 614 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: of like right place, right time. But I went I 615 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: do the same thing kind of that you went through 616 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 1: with Wheezy, where it was like, look, I may have 617 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: a negative part. And I'm also shy about the fact 618 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: that I had been out the game so long and 619 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: then to come back and be like, hey, I want 620 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: to do this show. And by the way, guys, I'm 621 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: gonna be on the other side of the camera that 622 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: you would never expect me to be on. So you know, 623 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: it's nobody had faith I could do it or whatever. 624 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: Was it scary for you. 625 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: It was mainly scary because Dolly was like, Yo, we 626 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: should have pretty V doing and I was like, I 627 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: like pretty V. But this show needs to be real stories, 628 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: like it can't be gimmicky. We're not making fun of 629 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: this place. We're inspiring from this place. Yeah, and so 630 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: I was like, it's gonna have to be me and 631 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: I been I was pregnant and Dolly was like absolute, 632 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: not only are you going to first time, but you're 633 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: gonna be pregnant. I was like, Cardi B's rapping on 634 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: stage right now with a belly, Like I'm thank God 635 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: for Cardi B. And she flew in and was like, 636 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna see if you can do this. And that 637 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: was scary because Dolly showed up and I was like, 638 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: scare And then she said right after I was done, 639 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: she was like, this is you. This is where you're 640 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: supposed to be at and I was like what and 641 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: she was like you you can stay. 642 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome, And I was like, yeah, that's awesome. 643 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: I'm about to embark on that journey as well. So 644 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: it's like now my next move, I'm working on a 645 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: show for myself. Yeah. So it's like we all see 646 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: the discourse online. It's like it's so polarizing, and so 647 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: this side versus that side, and it's like everybody's in 648 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: their echo chambers and stuff like that, and I don't 649 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: feel that's a good representation of what people really are. 650 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: And so this show it's like a play on old 651 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: school radio where it's just like you know, the call 652 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: in radio. You have a topic and then everybody calls 653 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: and tells us how they feel about it. But now 654 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: it's like my new age take to it is you 655 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: have to show your face, so there's no hiding behind everything. 656 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: It's all video call So it's a live show, a 657 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: live show. 658 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: Every live show live. 659 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: So I do it on YouTube every Sunday eleven o'clock 660 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: and then if you want to call in, you have 661 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: to sign up to a Patreon. So it's like I 662 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: want you to be invested if you actually want to, 663 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: you know, give your take or whatever. But everybody can 664 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: watch your free It's but it's so fun. 665 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: I get you already started it. 666 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been like doing practice episodes. So here's another thing. 667 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: Afraid to fail. I've been doing practice episodes maybe like 668 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 2: a couple of months now, and it's like the show 669 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 2: is rated. I think it's amazing, and I'm just so 670 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: nervous to like announce it publicly. And here's probably the 671 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: first place that I'm talking about it publicly right now. 672 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: And so I'm nervous in this book. 673 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: Oh when you let me know when the weeks we 674 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: sign it. 675 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: But it's called A m Mornings, I probably should see. 676 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: It's crazy with all your success that you still have 677 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: this bug in you. 678 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like just doing stuff new and that 679 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: excites me. If if I don't, if I'm not excited, 680 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: or if I don't want to do anything, I have 681 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: the luxury that I don't have to do it. 682 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: No, the bug I was talking about is that fair? Bud? 683 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: Oh? The fair? 684 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: Because you would think you would think that with all 685 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: your leads, you would say, okay, you don't have the fear, 686 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: especially even now that you've been on the other side 687 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: of the couch, you've been on the flagrant that you've 688 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: been on this side, right, Yeah, but you still have 689 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: that like scared to release fear of failure in front 690 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: of people. 691 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: Yes, so flagrant. It's an easier lift for me because 692 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: it's almost like I can imagine the cameras aren't there, 693 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: and I'm just talking with my friends that I've been 694 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: friends with over ten years now, and also Andrew and Akosh. 695 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: They're the big stars, like they drive the show. Like 696 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: I'm kind of there, you know, supplementary to them driving 697 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 2: the show, and so I don't feel that I have 698 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: to drive it. So it's like a lot less pressure 699 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: on me. This one. It's like, oh shit, I'm doing 700 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: a show. I'm the host. And it's like, so that's 701 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: why it's it's nerve racking. 702 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: Where do you tape your show up? 703 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: At my studio? 704 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: Here? 705 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: The Midtown one. Okay, you should see the new set. 706 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: The new set is Oh, I gotta go see. I 707 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: want to try and see it before I least the white. 708 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: Cycle and I have another side that looks so dope. Yeah. 709 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: I just each set, I just keep making better. I 710 00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: love it. 711 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: I love it well, I love it all right. So 712 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: I was so you and Weezy. I thought you guys 713 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: had met through horrible, but it sounds like you guys 714 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: had a long. 715 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: Oh no, we actually we met through horrible. Yeah. I 716 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: met her because she was trying to get signed with 717 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: loud Speaker, which Brilliant Idiots is also under it's owned 718 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: by like Chris Murrow, and so I just bumped into 719 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 2: her and Mandy when they were like waiting to have 720 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: a meeting and they were talking with other people about 721 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: their show. So I'm just like overhearing, I was like, 722 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: oh shit, the concept this is fire, Like I can 723 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: spot good content. And at the time, they were only 724 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: doing audio, and I was like, guys, this has to 725 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: be video, Like you have to add the video component. 726 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: And they were like, well, you know, one money time 727 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: all that type of stuff. I was like, you have 728 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 2: to do video. Let me provide video for you. And 729 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: the first couple months I was working for him, I 730 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: was barely getting paid. So that's one of those things 731 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: where it's like even at the time I was doing jobs, 732 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: I was doing that for free or I think maybe 733 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: I was getting fifty dollars some low amount. But yeah. 734 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: But then at some point video to their show and 735 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: then their show like four x stoor like four hundred 736 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 2: x some. 737 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: Crazy number of course, because now you have the beautiful faces. 738 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, people need to know that. 739 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: What I thought was interesting and I thought about this 740 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: with your story was at some point you guys separate, 741 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I think what I saw from it 742 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: as an outsider was like you established your worth, right, 743 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: you established the value you bring and then there was 744 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: obviously a disagreement, whether it was pay or or whatever. 745 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: I asked for fifty. 746 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: Dollars fifty dollars more. I love that you did it 747 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: and risk walking away because I think sometimes that triples 748 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 1: your value where people go. You could try to head 749 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: your bets with someone that costs less, but are they 750 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: gonna one care about it? Are they going to have 751 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: enough integrity to really care about the end product, which 752 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: you always do, Like even in my studio, we don't 753 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: have these cameras. You know what I'm saying. These cameras 754 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: are like ten times what you even know. 755 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: I like detail out like quality. 756 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but I think that it said a lot 757 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: when you walked because it also showed that they it developed, 758 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: like we need him right and did you see that? 759 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: I did see it, and you know not, you know, 760 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 2: there's still my friend. But it's funny because you know, 761 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: after I stepped away, they were the show didn't look 762 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: as good. But yeah, but they figured it out, they 763 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: rebound it. They're great there. I'm actually working back with 764 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: them now. But now I'm there creative director instead of 765 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 2: the producer. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, but yeah, like and 766 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: I guess it's just just how I operate, Like I 767 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: go by energy. If something feels good, I stay there. 768 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 2: If it doesn't feel good out Okay, I've never been 769 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: afraid to leave something. 770 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: Do you think the fear of I wouldn't. I don't know. 771 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: Obviously you had your therapy session. You're saying, but you 772 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: say fear of failure as an entrepreneur at this point, 773 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: do you really categorize it as like a fear of failure. 774 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: I can't understand the fear of failure in front of others. 775 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: I get that, I get that, but the fear of 776 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 1: failure as an entrepreneur if you've succeeded so. 777 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 2: Much, I mean, this ship could stop any moment. Like 778 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: I never feel like I did it, you know, because 779 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: it's like, hey, what if people just stop wanting the podcast? 780 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 2: You know, I'm kind of fucked. But yeah, like I 781 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: I think doing it, I'm more it's less fear for 782 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: me to try other like entrepreneurial you know, task like 783 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 2: I I can start a business. I probably have seven 784 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 2: businesses right now. 785 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: Awesome, that's pretty good though, it's really good. It's good 786 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: at juggling and delegating. Yes, So what were what would 787 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: what would you say are the key things that keep 788 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 1: you on top of the surfboard? 789 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: First would say, if you're with someone, have an amazing partner. 790 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 2: My fiance is phenomenal. She makes me a better person, 791 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: so that's great. And then your team, Like I have 792 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 2: a great assistant, he keeps me. He's probably the person 793 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: you've been talking to in emails because I just give 794 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 2: a passwords yeah Texas VI Texas. 795 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. 796 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: But if you're talking in emails, it's not me most 797 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 2: of the time. But yeah, And it's just like, yeah, 798 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 2: just have a good team around you and surround yourself 799 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 2: with good people, good energy, like the same way. I've 800 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: learned so much from Charlotte and Andrew. They've had the 801 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: same good people around them like for the longest and 802 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: that's part of their success. And so I just I 803 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: see them do something and it works. I'm same. 804 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: What about cash flow and budgeting money stuff? 805 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 2: So I've had to learn that because coming out of 806 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 2: the regular corporate American world, it was like, you know, 807 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: you have a guarantee check whatever the case is. The 808 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: taxes get taken out and all that stuff. I remember 809 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 2: the first year where I was officially like working as 810 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: a contractor and not like a nine to five. I 811 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 2: wasn't putting money away for taxes, and then that first 812 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 2: tax bill, I was like, oh shit, like that was 813 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 2: a shock. Gotten a lot better at that now, but yeah, like, 814 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 2: thankfully this studio is working. Thankfully, Flagrance doing phenomenal where 815 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 2: I'm pretty comfortable and like now I'm able to like 816 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: have a little fun because it's like before it was 817 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 2: just for ten years straight, I just had my head 818 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 2: down and I was working. 819 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: But how do you balance the cash flow and the 820 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: growth of the companies with employees and payroll and all that. 821 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 2: So with we have like team that does all the accounting, 822 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: payroll and all that stuff. But another thing I'm really 823 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 2: proud about at WTF, like we pay more than everybody. 824 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: Like I've I wouldn't say recruited people, but there'd be 825 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 2: people that worked at other podcast studios that came here 826 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 2: and they're like, holy should I make double working there? 827 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 2: And it's like I have some engineers that made six figures. Wow, Yeah, 828 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 2: that's so amazing. Yeah, And like in New York you 829 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: need to make some money to survive in this state. 830 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, we just luckily with the success of the 831 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 2: first one first studio. I mean we've I haven't had 832 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 2: to like get any outside money, any outside funding. We 833 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 2: just paid off the studio, made more money, opened another 834 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 2: studio with that money, and so we're just doing it slow. 835 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: If we were to get like a investor, we can 836 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 2: probably open up ten studios tomorrow. But I like it 837 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,479 Speaker 2: going out of space. 838 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, stay still, yeah, okay, well, where can everybody keep 839 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 1: up everything Alex? Which, by the way, I I've always 840 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: liked Alex. I like this extra X on it. I 841 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: literally always think about it whatever I see. I like 842 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: the extra ex makes so much sense, and like, what 843 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: a creative mom, only to find out that the mom 844 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. I like the brand. I love it, and 845 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 1: the whole Alex media is just so nice awesome. 846 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 2: But now I know everybody knows me as Alex. Now, 847 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 2: like the only people will call them my real neighbor 848 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 2: is my mom and maybe a couple of my best 849 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 2: friends from childhood. No, she calls me Alex. She met 850 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: me as Alex. That's crazy. 851 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like when it's funny because now I was 852 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: talking to my little brother Eagle. He's like, I know, Alan, 853 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: you know my little I was like, I don't think 854 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: he knows what we're related. 855 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 2: He's like, I did not know you were related. 856 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: He was my little brother and he was like. 857 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 2: The comedian right, yeah, I did not know. 858 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: Whenever people find out and I'm like the wits, the wit, 859 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, yes, I call him. I describe him as 860 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,479 Speaker 1: the guy that he just surprisingly hasn't gotten canceled yet. 861 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: He straddles that fan so well. He straddles that one 862 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, the one wheel bike. He straddles it and 863 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, somehow missed it. 864 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 2: Those people I love to be around the right there. 865 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: They just and you love to watch it because it's 866 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,479 Speaker 1: like so great. But you're like, so maw, he's made 867 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: it out. Yeah so but and Thensama was like Alex yeah, 868 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I finally get to sit 869 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 1: down with him. But they thank you so much for 870 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: sitting down and having some cheerios with me. Yes, og classic, 871 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: and I hope to get a picture from you later. 872 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 2: It's honey with honey nut cheerios, It's sugar with frusted flakes, 873 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 2: and it's cinnamon with cinnamon toe. 874 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: Scrunch cinnamon on extra cinnamon on the cinnamon to scrunch. 875 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: Now cinnamon and sugar. 876 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 2: Na, Actually I would do cinnamon and. 877 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: Sugar, but now too in the containers. Now really you 878 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: can get the cinnamon sugar. 879 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 2: Mane Oh shit, see I should have invented that. 880 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you so much for tuning into 881 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: another episode of Eating while broke. Keep up with everything 882 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: alex media and can you shout out the new show? Oh? 883 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 2: Yes, so the new show it's called A m Mornings. 884 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 2: You can just go to AM Mornings dot com and 885 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: you find out all the information from there. It's live 886 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 2: every Sunday eleven am YouTube. It's really fun. Check it out. 887 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: Shout out WTF studios. 888 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely if this is the best podcast studio 889 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 2: in the world, so head over to WTF Media Studios 890 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 2: dot com. We have locations in New York, LA. We 891 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 2: also do off site and we do that around the world. 892 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 2: If you want to shoot a podcast, I've shoten podcasts 893 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: in Paris, I've shotten all over America. Yeah, we do 894 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 2: that and we keep our casts very low so that 895 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 2: way we can provide a good service and you can 896 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 2: afford it. 897 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. Guys, peace out, peace