Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we're talking
Speaker 1: Josh Harris and the Advisory Committee advisors as symbol. There's
Speaker 1: also been a lot of names that been reported for
Speaker 1: head of football operations and head coach.
Speaker 2: We're going to review all those.
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna talk about what makes Washington the premier
Speaker 1: destination for these candidates. And Fred said something about princesses
Speaker 1: and presidences. Yes, I'll find out on this episode. Welcome
Speaker 1: into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with
Speaker 1: Fred Smoot and the guy who can't be cooler than cool,
Speaker 1: you know, Santanamas like with the glass.
Speaker 3: Put like nothing on.
Speaker 4: Mean, I know you got too.
Speaker 1: Fred, Fred Theodore Smoot is here and this is the
Speaker 1: first time we can talk after the basketball games, definitely,
Speaker 1: And I feel like I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of fansy to hear your.
Speaker 3: Perspective on.
Speaker 4: How about me to the point of it made me say,
Speaker 4: you know what you need to work out? You know
Speaker 4: what it made me say, you know, I already been
Speaker 4: swimming one time, so then my bike got two days
Speaker 4: before we get here, Like I have you changed my
Speaker 4: life because I let a lot.
Speaker 3: Of people die.
Speaker 2: You beat me.
Speaker 3: So now I'm taking my health very serious. Right now.
Speaker 1: I know we've been on you a little bit, and
Speaker 1: I want to say this. After we finished that game
Speaker 1: and Fred laid down for about fifteen minutes, he got
Speaker 1: back up and he shot the basketball. Pretty God's starting good.
Speaker 1: It just took a total fatigue total total.
Speaker 5: Told him should have played horse instead of play that
Speaker 5: was I asked you in the middle of the Game's
Speaker 5: that's changing to horse?
Speaker 3: Bride won't let him do it.
Speaker 4: Hey, but everybody's seen the mall walking in the back
Speaker 4: in the beck.
Speaker 3: Speed walking in the mall.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can obviously check this out on YouTube
Speaker 1: on the last podcast. It's on the tailing of that,
Speaker 1: so you know tann' is out there.
Speaker 2: Ten. I was impressed, man, you were running through on
Speaker 2: yard shuttles.
Speaker 5: Right, I did sh I did six of them, and
Speaker 5: I mean I did that moment's pace, but there was
Speaker 5: some I'm was warming up to go work out, so
Speaker 5: I mean, don't be in prison. I had still finished
Speaker 5: and go out there and get a whole little bit
Speaker 5: new man guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So hopefully this, hopefully this starts you, starts you
Speaker 2: off on the right the.
Speaker 3: Way to start the new year. I started the new
Speaker 3: year out by being humble and now I'm good.
Speaker 1: Also, it was it was cold on Monday. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was really cold on Monday, and I was taking my
Speaker 1: kids to school. I got I live right behind the school,
Speaker 1: so I'm walking them through the woods and on the
Speaker 1: basketball court court there's a hawk.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was just hanging on.
Speaker 2: I didn't have my phone with me. I want to
Speaker 2: take a picture. I was like that hawk outside right there.
Speaker 3: It was literally but we also had to take that
Speaker 3: hawk Monday night.
Speaker 2: Oh, listen to me.
Speaker 3: That was that was the hawk flying through. That's what
Speaker 3: people mean.
Speaker 1: We did a show outside. It's coming out next week,
Speaker 1: I think right next week. And we did it at
Speaker 1: d C Prime. Really nice, nice in front of the fire.
Speaker 3: But it was he was.
Speaker 2: It was chilly and so in Atlanta that hawkouse side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will hover over my head. They can drop
Speaker 3: the couple of droppings.
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Speaker 1: All right, So lots of stuff that's happened, yes since
Speaker 1: our last podcast. Yeah, play the game been some changes,
Speaker 1: Ron and Verry's obviously been like, oh yep, I thought
Speaker 1: we could start this segment off just real quick by
Speaker 1: just saying kind of reflecting on Ron's tenure, and you know,
Speaker 1: kind of giving the man his flowers a little bit.
Speaker 2: If there are flowers together.
Speaker 4: I would say a man who showed he can handle
Speaker 4: adversity at the highest level. Yeah, I'm talking about physically,
Speaker 4: mentally and emotionally. When he came in, he had a
Speaker 4: tall task. He looked it in the face, and he
Speaker 4: gave it everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I agree, I look at I just look
Speaker 5: at the whole you know, coaches coming into this, this
Speaker 5: this particular building here, you know, this establishment. It's been tough. Yes,
Speaker 5: So I don't try to, you know, put too much
Speaker 5: more on him than he was the last guy, you
Speaker 5: know when the guy before that. So he came here,
Speaker 5: he tried to do something that hasn't been done yet
Speaker 5: or I can say in a long time here just
Speaker 5: to one playoffs he had only one, you know when
Speaker 5: the season. But hey man, he did as most coaches
Speaker 5: have tried. Yeah, and and and he was a good
Speaker 5: guy doing so. So he he left here, you know,
Speaker 5: the same guy that I saw coming in. He was
Speaker 5: a guy that I had a lot of I guess
Speaker 5: you can say respect for. Yeah, and and he never
Speaker 5: lost it with me because I've seen him go out
Speaker 5: there and fight through a lot, and he endured a lot,
Speaker 5: you know, while doing so hats off to him.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: You know, everybody can't come in here and change things around,
Speaker 5: but he tried.
Speaker 4: And I'm glad he got the coach for the last
Speaker 4: five games, and I think I think he lost track
Speaker 4: of it because he had to be so much of
Speaker 4: a manager. Yeah, I'm glad he got to physically go
Speaker 4: in there with the players, and I think I've seen
Speaker 4: I've seen a different glow to him when he started
Speaker 4: to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you both talked about the adversity. Obviously had the
Speaker 1: cancer when he first got here, which was crazy, and
Speaker 1: I don't think people realized how sick he was. Then
Speaker 1: you got the COVID year coming off the camper worst
Speaker 1: you remember coming to the building around that time, and
Speaker 1: like the regulations and he had.
Speaker 3: To take tests like every day, nose was red.
Speaker 1: Every day to come in. And then all the zoom
Speaker 1: meetings and stuffing, and obviously other teams handled that adversity
Speaker 1: as well. But that's a lot in your first year.
Speaker 1: And then obviously the non football stuff was a big
Speaker 1: part of that third year, and then this year with
Speaker 1: the ownership change, so not a lot of kind of
Speaker 1: just straightfor.
Speaker 3: I also deal with the name change.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 3: You know, it was like one thing at the numb.
Speaker 1: And he and you know, like so obviously a lot
Speaker 1: of adversity. I think he, you know, there's some times
Speaker 1: where maybe made some questionable decisions whatever, But I think overall,
Speaker 1: I think we all agree. Really good dude, Yeah, really
Speaker 1: kind of stayed the same the whole time.
Speaker 2: Good person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I think a smarter football guy
Speaker 1: than I think a lot of people want to give him.
Speaker 3: Mostly until you have a conversation with him, you never know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So but I think that moves us on
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Speaker 1: thank you for your time marriage, but I really appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: So obviously Ron's gone big news. But the other kind
Speaker 1: of big point of news here is that Joss Harris
Speaker 1: has kind of Josh Harris and the ownership group have
Speaker 1: established this advisory committee, right, and it's got some pretty
Speaker 1: heavy heavy hitters on the committee. Obviously Joss Harris, Mitchell Rails,
Speaker 1: David Blitzer, Magic Johnson's on the committee, Rick Spielman, who
Speaker 1: you know very well, and then Bob Myers. So we
Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit yesterday on the Command
Speaker 1: Center Show when we were recording it. But like, just
Speaker 1: what is your thoughts on this group and kind of
Speaker 1: their mission statement of finding the best head of football
Speaker 1: operations as they can find.
Speaker 3: When the earth is in danger, they call on the Avengers.
Speaker 4: They when Loki comes down and you need something to
Speaker 4: be fixed, you got to put a group together. And
Speaker 4: that's what they've done. And I like the nun bias
Speaker 4: of it. He didn't just say let's just find football guys.
Speaker 4: Let's find successful guys and no matter what they do,
Speaker 4: and let's let them lead us.
Speaker 3: In the right direction.
Speaker 4: So I feel good about I love people, no matter
Speaker 4: how how they get to say I don't know, Like
Speaker 4: that's a powerful thing, right then. I think in the
Speaker 4: billionaire airs rem they don't say I don't know much
Speaker 4: because the world had proven them to be so perfect
Speaker 4: at what they do.
Speaker 3: They part of the one percent of the one percent.
Speaker 4: So I love that he got this power group together
Speaker 4: to say, point me in the right direction, help me
Speaker 4: get the right people in life, so we can start.
Speaker 4: Because I think what they really want they want a coature.
Speaker 2: Over coach, meaning culture over coach.
Speaker 3: I think about it. No matter who's doing anything at
Speaker 3: the Ravens, it's the same way.
Speaker 4: The same thing at Pittsburgh same way, same thing, no
Speaker 4: matter who around, no matter what's going on. I think
Speaker 4: that's what they want to achieve here.
Speaker 5: You know, I think we get caught up in a
Speaker 5: world where, especially us, I think in our culture, where
Speaker 5: we was told that you got to go out here
Speaker 5: and do this to be successful, or you have to
Speaker 5: go out here and know this to be successful, instead
Speaker 5: of saying that, you know, it's.
Speaker 3: No one answer or on one right answer.
Speaker 5: And when you look at most successful people, you know
Speaker 5: it's not because they just woke up and said, oh
Speaker 5: I'm successful, or someone gave me this. Most of them
Speaker 5: have a group of each other that helps you know
Speaker 5: the next man come up, and then before you know it,
Speaker 5: we all sitting up here in the room and we
Speaker 5: can talk talk the same talk and be able to
Speaker 5: you know, spread our wings. When I look at this,
Speaker 5: I guess you can say this avengers, you know, type
Speaker 5: of type of that they kind of assemble. It just
Speaker 5: shows you that you know, it's no one right way
Speaker 5: of doing things, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You can go out.
Speaker 5: There and say, hey, all these guys have been successful
Speaker 5: in their fields. Rather whether there's you know, Magic Johnson
Speaker 5: and playing basketball and being a CEO and you know,
Speaker 5: owning a lot of businesses, whether it's the guy who
Speaker 5: who assembled with the Golden State Warriors to all their
Speaker 5: championships going to start, you know, and then you have
Speaker 5: you guys spillman who's done it, you know on different
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: Josh Josh Harris is captain of the Maryic.
Speaker 5: You know, he gon he gonna put the name, but
Speaker 5: it just shows me that you know, you know, Josh say,
Speaker 5: hey man, I'm going to get all the guys who
Speaker 5: I'm where I can, who I have rubbed elbows with
Speaker 5: through my past or or present, and say see if
Speaker 5: they can help me build this organization back to prominence.
Speaker 3: And I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I think the culture over
Speaker 1: coaching or the culture I don't.
Speaker 3: Know you word of that culture of a coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's really important too, because like important, the
Speaker 1: guys on here, right, Bob Myers, I mean, established a
Speaker 1: tremendous culture, right. Magic Johnson has got this brand of winning.
Speaker 1: These guys that are on the ownership, the managing partners,
Speaker 1: all those kind of those people they've they've done, they've
Speaker 1: been very successful and all those things that they've done
Speaker 1: have been I think generated around strong cultures, and I think.
Speaker 4: All of these guys has one thing they all got
Speaker 4: to come, longevity and whatever they do, they put that
Speaker 4: that Golden State team together, they steal together. The core
Speaker 4: three are still they understand relationships with sports and I
Speaker 4: think a lot of people like to plug and play.
Speaker 4: Like the one thing I can say about Philadelphia, I
Speaker 4: admire what they do, but I think sometime when they
Speaker 4: bring in guys mid season, mid season and one thing
Speaker 4: to just fill in the gap, sometimes it don't work
Speaker 4: because of relationship ain't there yet. So I think that's
Speaker 4: what all of these guys having come and they value that.
Speaker 1: No, I totally agree, and you know that, like you know,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of names that have been reported on
Speaker 1: according to Adam Scheffer Nick Adam Chef or excuse me,
Speaker 1: Nikki Javala and John Kime. Obviously local Kim does a
Speaker 1: great job, so that's Nikki, but yeah, the head of
Speaker 1: football operations guys. Names that are kind of on this
Speaker 1: list are Will McKay, Dallas VP player Personnel, Adam Peters.
Speaker 1: That kind of that's kind of everyone's darling at the
Speaker 1: moment in terms of people that are really excited about
Speaker 1: from the San Francisco forty nine ers, Mike Borzingi.
Speaker 2: Is that how he said it? Forgotten? There we go?
Speaker 2: That was it?
Speaker 1: Tan a nice job from Kansas City, Ian Cunningham from Chicago,
Speaker 1: he's assistant GM, Glenn Cook Cleveland assistant GM. And Alec
Speaker 1: Halliby from the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2: So one thing.
Speaker 1: About those names that I like a lot is you
Speaker 1: get guys from you. We talked about the culture, right,
Speaker 1: and how that's an important it seems to be an
Speaker 1: important part of this, of this this advisory committee right
Speaker 1: to find this good leader. Right is these guys are
Speaker 1: all from winning programs that have done a great job
Speaker 1: with talent evaluation. And people say, oh what about Ian
Speaker 1: Cumming and he's from Chicago, but he is actually he
Speaker 1: started his career Baltimore. Yeah, he went to Philadelphia and
Speaker 1: then became the So talk about having a great pedigree
Speaker 1: about yeah, and again like that that position.
Speaker 3: We could have three if they trade the quarterback, if
Speaker 3: they trade.
Speaker 1: About two positions in the top ten. So they so
Speaker 1: again I think Dallas is a great job. Say what
Speaker 1: you want about them. They found a quarterback, they found
Speaker 1: skill players, offensive lineman, Michael Parsons obviously Adam Peter San
Speaker 1: Francisco talk about a vision for a team like we
Speaker 1: talked about that when we played them. They are physical
Speaker 1: as all get out. They draft guys who are physical,
Speaker 1: They embody kind of what they want to be. You
Speaker 1: can tell there's a strong connection there with the coaching
Speaker 1: staff and with the offensive identity. Great job by them,
Speaker 1: Kansas City. I mean, it's hard for me to kind
Speaker 1: of point Kansas City out because they have Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: so it's like they can cover up all their personnel
Speaker 1: issues with that. But very successful, hard, undeniable.
Speaker 3: How I think when you look at these guys.
Speaker 4: The one thing about the price of success people, that's
Speaker 4: how you break Champ your chip teams up. You need
Speaker 4: to go steal the players, you go steal the person else.
Speaker 3: And this is the this is.
Speaker 4: The price of success that we're watching. And I'm glad
Speaker 4: that we're only picking.
Speaker 3: From the successful trees right now.
Speaker 1: And I think it's success in a very specific type
Speaker 1: of way though It's like I'm sure it's it's the culture,
Speaker 1: right and they fact that they've established the culture of
Speaker 1: winning winning, You can tell those teams have a very
Speaker 1: strong identity, which is obviously part of coaching, but it's
Speaker 1: also kind of through personnel. And I think the other
Speaker 1: thing is they all have a they seemingly all have
Speaker 1: a talent for for identifying talent.
Speaker 5: I think also too, when you're looking at you know,
Speaker 5: these these guys who we just kind of talked about,
Speaker 5: you know, the one thing that's in common that's next
Speaker 5: to them is either vice president or assistant associate, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So they was there with someone else,
Speaker 5: someone else has they was, They was a part of
Speaker 5: a team that that helped build whatever they have going on.
Speaker 5: So that's what they would be doing here. We'll be
Speaker 5: bringing them in to probably be the head of our ship.
Speaker 5: But you know, you got to always think and putting
Speaker 5: back your head that they just not solely the guy
Speaker 5: that you know, created what you see over there, that
Speaker 5: culture that.
Speaker 4: They got to maidele to work with the head coach
Speaker 4: period like this the thing they got to be organically connected,
Speaker 4: and if they're not, it won't it won't blost you know.
Speaker 1: Obviously to Tennis point, I think the fact that they
Speaker 1: are they are in these positions of leadership, I think
Speaker 1: is important.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's not like they're the GM, but they're the assistant GM.
Speaker 1: They're the assistant, the associate, whatever it is. So they're
Speaker 1: right there kind of in that stage right before. They're
Speaker 1: all poised for those positions. And I think there is
Speaker 1: something to be said for making sure guys have experience,
Speaker 1: right There's certain times you're like, oh, the head scout
Speaker 1: gets the opportunity, or the regional scout You're like, man,
Speaker 1: I feel like you're missing some steps.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: None of these guys missing steps. And I also think
Speaker 1: it you know, John Kyin brought this up on this
Speaker 1: podcast or shout out to John Kyme. They are all
Speaker 1: from winning programs or from teams in the division, and
Speaker 1: I think this is also a good time to get
Speaker 1: some information about how they do their process and how
Speaker 1: they view us.
Speaker 3: Well know, is Kyle stealing?
Speaker 2: We're stealing a little bit, right, Guess what.
Speaker 3: You That's what you do from trees at Blossom.
Speaker 4: Like you remember being in the neighborhood ten if I
Speaker 4: rock play at your house and you got a plane tree.
Speaker 3: You got the mango was hanging out your chi. They
Speaker 3: on the stand of this game, I might go ahead,
Speaker 3: had to take one. That's just what it is. So
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, if you want to
Speaker 3: be good, is only one way to do it, and
Speaker 3: this pick from the good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I think it's important to note that Adam
Speaker 1: Peters and Bob Myers know each other from their time
Speaker 1: in the Bay together relationship, so obviously those relationships are
Speaker 1: really important. Not saying any one of these guys as
Speaker 1: an edge, but personal relationship are very important. Also, got
Speaker 1: names that have been put out by Adam Scheffner, Nikki
Speaker 1: Jabala and John Kim are the coaches, and I think
Speaker 1: in the coaching I'm a little surprised Tanna.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Fred, what's.
Speaker 1: Your surprised because there are a lot of defensive guys.
Speaker 1: You got Anthony Weaver from Baltimore. He's the assistant head coach,
Speaker 1: defensive line coach. Mike Mike MacDonald, I want to say McAdoo,
Speaker 1: but that's all right, McDonald Baltimore, D C Raheem Morris,
Speaker 1: l A d C, Dan Quinn d C, Ben Johnson OC.
Speaker 1: Obviously he's kind of the bell of the ball for
Speaker 1: everybody at the moment. Aaron Glenn d C. And Bobby
Speaker 1: Slowick Houston O C.
Speaker 4: Well, really, now that I look into the playoffs, it's seven
Speaker 4: offensive coaches in five defensive coaches in it.
Speaker 2: Do you what do you mean like a team in
Speaker 2: the playoffs? Right? And so this is this is this
Speaker 2: is interesting.
Speaker 1: So obviously Josh Harris has said stuff like, oh, I
Speaker 1: really want to be analytics driven, and there is a
Speaker 1: slight discrepancy in this, but it's important to point out
Speaker 1: that offensive head coaches tend to be slightly more successful.
Speaker 2: So when I thought, yeah, when I when I thought
Speaker 2: this this was.
Speaker 1: Going to come out, I thought offense, offense, offense. So
Speaker 1: but I also think kind of go back to the
Speaker 1: main point where we're talking about with the with the
Speaker 1: head of football operations candidates, that these guys are all
Speaker 1: part of winning physical, tough cultures.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, And like we would
Speaker 4: just talk about what's the plus wick candidates with Dan Quinn,
Speaker 4: you're you're crippling the Dallas.
Speaker 3: You take yourself for Dallas, you're bringing it here.
Speaker 4: And he knows that roster up and down, so he
Speaker 4: wouldn't know how to attack that roster attack d Princecott
Speaker 4: officially and defensively, he'll know the weakness up the defensive
Speaker 4: players also.
Speaker 5: And you can look at it vice versa. They'll know
Speaker 5: what he does well too and be able to So
Speaker 5: I look at him like this, I'm I really care
Speaker 5: less about whether it's offensive defense. But you made a
Speaker 5: great point yesterday when talking about just if you bring
Speaker 5: in that offensive guy, you don't have to worry about Roses.
Speaker 3: Losing him two later. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So you bring instead of bringing that defensive coordinator to
Speaker 5: a head coach, he go get off.
Speaker 4: The only true advantage I believe, because you guaranteed with
Speaker 4: success to lose the offensive court.
Speaker 3: And guarantee so that that's the only thing that stands out.
Speaker 5: But when you're trying to build something here, man, you
Speaker 5: kind of got to just say, hey, what's available, and
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and who fits what we're
Speaker 5: trying to do, and.
Speaker 1: Also think it's apportive point out like dan Quinn's been
Speaker 1: a head coach and I've been to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I was with him in Atlanta, and I remember talk
Speaker 1: having conversations with him about like you know, afterwards, after
Speaker 1: he'd got fired in Atlanta, he was like, I wish
Speaker 1: I would have prioritized not coaching development, but just making
Speaker 1: sure there was a succession plan. So there's a guy
Speaker 1: who knows kind of like the blind spot of a
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator is usually that offensive coordinator spot. But he's like,
Speaker 1: if I if I get to do it again, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make sure I take care of that, right. Raheem
Speaker 1: Morris is a defensive coach from LA we know him
Speaker 1: medic coach also, but also is a offensive coach. He
Speaker 1: coached receivers when I was in Atlanta. Who was the
Speaker 1: past game Cordnat there. So I like guys who again
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, I think is is innovative defensively, I like
Speaker 1: that Raheem Morris knows both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: He linebacker coached previously. And you know, Aaron Glenn is
Speaker 1: a guy that I think a fast football is and
Speaker 1: it kind of flipped that program around.
Speaker 2: It was part of the was part of the flip.
Speaker 1: And I think when you're looking at taking someone from
Speaker 1: a losing culture in Detroit to a winning culture, seeing
Speaker 1: that and seeing what that as is also important, you know.
Speaker 1: And so while you know, maybe not the most effective
Speaker 1: defense at the moment in the NFL, they do innovative stuff.
Speaker 2: But also he got to see the transition.
Speaker 5: Some of the things he did well is you know,
Speaker 5: he know how to go out and get the right
Speaker 5: kind of cornerbacks too, and that's something that we've been
Speaker 5: having problems with. You look at him when he was
Speaker 5: in New Orleans, that cornerback play with superbs.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Now you see in Detroit those guys are playing better.
Speaker 5: So I mean, I think when you look at just
Speaker 5: his pedigree, you know what he specialized in.
Speaker 3: You one, he a d C, but he's a he's
Speaker 3: a corner and he's a football player.
Speaker 4: He's a thing about so you know, the one thing
Speaker 4: he gonna have over some of these other coaches is
Speaker 4: relationships with players, communication with players, shedding the standard with players,
Speaker 4: understand that I'm a man that what I say is
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 3: Think about it. Number three, pick a cornerback from the fact.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah he was there. Yeah he tried
Speaker 3: to showed it. He don't, he don't. Whoever wins wins.
Speaker 1: But also so interesting there and I think there's two
Speaker 1: names down here that really jump out to me. Right
Speaker 1: it's Mike Mike McDonald because their defense in Baltimore since
Speaker 1: he's taken over has been awesome. I think it's top five.
Speaker 1: It's like third points, it's third you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: this vaunted group and again innovative group, which I like,
Speaker 1: they understand how to break off his physical physical They
Speaker 1: understand also Tanna, how to maximize kind of unique talents
Speaker 1: like I think about Callyamlinson, how like no one really
Speaker 1: knew how to use him and he goes to Baltimore like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're going to figure it out. And I think, obviously
Speaker 1: the position coach deserves a lot of credit, but he
Speaker 1: deserves a lot of credit. And the other guy on
Speaker 1: the list that I think is just that the bell
Speaker 1: of the ball is Ben Johnson and people say why.
Speaker 2: It's because he.
Speaker 1: Calls offenses like Kyle Shanahan, you know, and he knows
Speaker 1: how to maximize playmakers.
Speaker 3: He's the hot hot, you know.
Speaker 2: He's He's probably the number one candidate in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Like Bellichick's tree, everybody come out, the tree doesn't blossom
Speaker 4: because I don't know being Johnson personally. I think his
Speaker 4: play calling is innovative. But can he lead me in?
Speaker 4: That's always the question.
Speaker 3: With seeds in DCS.
Speaker 2: Can he lead me in?
Speaker 5: And the one thing I always say, because you know,
Speaker 5: I'll be the first to tell you that I want.
Speaker 5: I want that head coach that's going to be the
Speaker 5: ahole at times, you know, the one that's going to
Speaker 5: kind of love demanded word you're wrong at times. But
Speaker 5: I think more so than anything, if you get the
Speaker 5: right kind of assistant coaches, then you don't have to
Speaker 5: beat him, you know what I mean. You can be
Speaker 5: that now, that manager or that person. But being that
Speaker 5: he has an offensive background, he's gonna make you. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna be call him plays. But for everybody else, I'm
Speaker 5: just here to let you know I'm the guy. But
Speaker 5: I got everybody that's gonna put you in line. So
Speaker 5: that's how I look at it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: It's get the right kind.
Speaker 4: Of coaches over So you would y'all would say he's
Speaker 4: the mad scientist out the group.
Speaker 3: He's the most innovative.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's so Bobby Slowan. Obviously he's done a
Speaker 1: great job in Houston, but I think if you look
Speaker 1: at his resume, Ben Johnson, I'm talking about now taking
Speaker 1: Jared Golf, a guy that everyone thought was cooked, and
Speaker 1: making him a top ten quarterback the last couple of years, right,
Speaker 1: developing a run game, developing an offensive identity, a culture
Speaker 1: of physicality. There's a lot there from a football standpoints,
Speaker 1: and those we.
Speaker 4: Think he's out of this group, he's the best. What
Speaker 4: about the best of all the leader?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I think that's the thing
Speaker 2: that's tough about leader men part.
Speaker 5: You know, I like, I like, right, Queen did Raheem?
Speaker 5: But I knew Raheem? So I remember you.
Speaker 3: Got a person that like like I had with slow Kmouso.
Speaker 4: But I would say those two first because they've been there,
Speaker 4: done that.
Speaker 5: Have been there proofs in the putt and you actually
Speaker 5: had him in your building and you knew how he
Speaker 5: was the guys that wasn't under his umbrella, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. I remember being able to talk to Raheem,
Speaker 5: I'm offensive guy, and just the communication that we had
Speaker 5: and the things he told me about myself as from
Speaker 5: watching me. I used to be like, man, you know,
Speaker 5: no coaches give you this kind of insight, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean? So you know that's the guy who
Speaker 5: you want to you know, play for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you know you mentioned that, like, well,
Speaker 1: we know we both know Raheem, We both I know Dan,
Speaker 1: we all know Bobby. One thing they're excellent at is
Speaker 1: communicating with players and building relationship with players. So I'm
Speaker 1: assuming that three of the guys that we know just
Speaker 1: happened to be really good at that. I'm sure these
Speaker 1: other guys that's that's something. And I think Aaron Glen,
Speaker 1: they just did an NFL player survey. I didn't look
Speaker 1: this up, but I should have. So he was second
Speaker 1: in the NFL p A poll for for players recommending
Speaker 1: coaches that they like. Yes, the number one was Frank
Speaker 1: Smith in Miami. I think he was number two, which
Speaker 1: again is an endorsement of how he's.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: So the players on your team, they're saying, how do
Speaker 1: you like? What do you think of this guy in
Speaker 1: terms of how he relates and communicates with you?
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, tough. Yeah, I think it was two.
Speaker 1: So Frank Smith again, another potential coaching He's not not
Speaker 1: been reported, but Aaron Glenn I think kind of encapsulates
Speaker 1: that stuff that we're talking about, which is leading men.
Speaker 1: But leading men at the NFL is different than in college,
Speaker 1: where you can kind of be this usteer, almost a bully. Here,
Speaker 1: it's about communicating and building those relationships, and it just
Speaker 1: seems like they've got a bunch of guys.
Speaker 2: You know, I played with it. I was coach.
Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver was on the staff when I was in Houston. Again,
Speaker 1: a guy who just people liked communicate well. So lots
Speaker 1: lots of exciting football stuff there obviously, and some big
Speaker 1: decisions yet to come, and we'll obviously keep you informed
Speaker 1: up to date.
Speaker 3: I want to know, personally, what do you like? What
Speaker 3: do you like a.
Speaker 4: Newbie, a guy this is your first time, that's a
Speaker 4: great question. Do you like a guy that's been there,
Speaker 4: done it? You want a fresh start, because that's how
Speaker 4: we got Joe Gillibs coach Gibs.
Speaker 3: By them actually hiding him he hadn't proved anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So a couple of things here that I want
Speaker 1: to point out. One, I think young quarter young coordinators
Speaker 1: that become head coaches, young head coaches tend to be
Speaker 1: a little bit hungrier to kind of prove themselves, right.
Speaker 1: I do think older coaches have better networks. And Tanna
Speaker 1: talked about how important is to hire good coordinators and
Speaker 1: good position coaches. So like Dan Quinn has been coaching
Speaker 1: for twenty five years now, so you.
Speaker 3: Know, he stay out, so he's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, I know, I know the perfect O. See,
Speaker 1: I know the perfect D line coach. And so he's
Speaker 1: got that at his disposal, unlike Bobby Sloko, again is
Speaker 1: a good coach. It's had to put a stand, but
Speaker 1: he's got to put it together right. And so I
Speaker 1: had a conversation with someone who's up for head coaching job,
Speaker 1: and he basically said to me, like, I want to
Speaker 1: make sure that I've coached long enough or my staff
Speaker 1: can be good enough to support me knowing enough people.
Speaker 1: So I think obviously the hunger that desire you see
Speaker 1: the Sean McVay, the Kyle Shanahans of Mike McDaniels, you
Speaker 1: see that. But also that Tree is so well established
Speaker 1: that they all know each other, they can develop good staffs,
Speaker 1: they have really good network. What are the networks going
Speaker 1: to be like here for them establishing coaching staffs. And
Speaker 1: I look at you know, Mike mc Mike McDonald for example.
Speaker 1: He obviously that Baltimore Tree is thick, you know, in
Speaker 1: terms of guys you can trust.
Speaker 3: The Harball definitely if he come, he's saying come.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he shan't come with me, And obviously he knows
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh from Michigani coach there last year, good coaching
Speaker 1: staff there. So I think there's a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of positive trees that they can draw from, and
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches they can build from. But I
Speaker 1: do love a young guy because they seem like they
Speaker 1: can relate. But obviously, you know, Dan Quinn relates better
Speaker 1: than any coach I've ever had. He's a little bit
Speaker 1: of an older guy. So all right, what is this
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Speaker 4: You handed day like Bob Barky, you know you it
Speaker 4: was all It didn't come off as smooth first.
Speaker 3: Collect but you got it then.
Speaker 1: It's like just muscle memory at this way. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: get it out here just like this show. All right,
Speaker 1: So Commanders Advantages and basically the point of this segment,
Speaker 1: and I think You guys are gonna have some really
Speaker 1: good insight on this, so I'm exciting. What you got
Speaker 1: to say is why is this job the job that
Speaker 1: we just mentioned These coaches, we just mentioned those, uh
Speaker 1: the head of football oper rations candidates, right what Why
Speaker 1: would they expect this job? And I think the more
Speaker 1: you look.
Speaker 3: At it, it's irresistant.
Speaker 2: There's a lot a lot to like.
Speaker 4: First of all, we know this about coaches, They about
Speaker 4: I need to make the team look like I like me.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, guess what, Not only do you have.
Speaker 4: The most camp money for free agency, you also have
Speaker 4: all of these draft picks plus a couple of second
Speaker 4: round picks. D number two pick this team most definitely
Speaker 4: not because it usually take two or three years for
Speaker 4: them to bend it.
Speaker 3: To their will because they got a bad contract. Here,
Speaker 3: a sum here, a main state right here. No, this
Speaker 3: is clear as it's gonna be clear as the uppercar
Speaker 3: could ever be. This is best. Not only are you
Speaker 3: going to be a head coach.
Speaker 4: In the NFCS, you will be renowned known for bringing
Speaker 4: back one of the stalwart franchises back to glory. Because
Speaker 4: that's what we got going on right now, hashtagged back
Speaker 4: to glory, you will be.
Speaker 3: Dead, dude.
Speaker 4: Not only do you being this to your identity, you
Speaker 4: get to pick your own quarterback if you want to change,
Speaker 4: You get to pick your own office alignement.
Speaker 3: You get to really do whatever. This is the clay
Speaker 3: that can be molded.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was putting stuff down on my phone because
Speaker 5: I know as long as I thought he's gonna talk
Speaker 5: a little longer, I usually does talk.
Speaker 2: You know, I have when Fred talks, have to take
Speaker 2: those too. I gotta stay. That could be like a
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes little modelogue.
Speaker 5: So when you ask me, why would this be a
Speaker 5: sexy spot, you know far as to come in there
Speaker 5: and be a coach. I look at destination, you know, DC,
Speaker 5: DMB who don't want I look at the ownership. You
Speaker 5: know what this ownship, you know you far as, you
Speaker 5: know what they have done, their track record, and what
Speaker 5: they're trying to do. Then I look at the potential
Speaker 5: of a new stadium coming soon, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: that's something probably years away from here, but it's coming
Speaker 5: probably no more than five or six years. And then
Speaker 5: I look at the cap space out of your first year,
Speaker 5: the cap room you have to go out there and
Speaker 5: do what you do, especially when it comes to free agents,
Speaker 5: the draft picks that we have.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got five in the first Still can
Speaker 3: trade five in the first?
Speaker 2: What three round?
Speaker 3: Three rounds?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And just you know you're right, still can trade and
Speaker 5: get more for that depending on what you know where
Speaker 5: everything's starting to you know, add up when it comes
Speaker 5: to quarterbacks, who's going to stay in the top five, top.
Speaker 3: Ten or who might drop?
Speaker 5: So you have so much room, wiggle room, I say,
Speaker 5: when it comes to this scene and.
Speaker 3: Just man, look who don't want to be here in DC?
Speaker 5: I feel like what's going on with with this Harris group.
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be new, It's exciting, it's gonna
Speaker 5: be new, and before you know, it's gonna be their stamp.
Speaker 5: You know they're gonna be able to say this is
Speaker 5: what we bring, this is what we are.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: I think right now it still has that vibe or
Speaker 5: that feeling of that they're the new owners, but it's
Speaker 5: still someone else's team.
Speaker 3: They know what I'm saying, print on.
Speaker 5: They'll put their fingerprint or their foot in it enough
Speaker 5: yet so that wouldn't lead any coaches say, man, I
Speaker 5: want to be a part of that. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: I see what these guys have done else world. Let
Speaker 5: me let me come and join that and be a
Speaker 5: part of that group.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the you mentioned ownership, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we got to give them a shout out
Speaker 1: because like of how they handled Ron, I think that
Speaker 1: shows incoming coaches and how they can they can trust
Speaker 1: with their owners shay right, because they said Ron, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be the end of the year, Ron landed the plane.
Speaker 1: They let Ron hang around the building a lot yesterday.
Speaker 1: They weren't like, you know, here's your stuff, get out
Speaker 1: of here kind of thing. They treated him like a
Speaker 1: human being. And I think that was something with the
Speaker 1: old ownership that it wasn't there. That was that people
Speaker 1: didn't like, right, they didn't. If you're a coach coming in,
Speaker 1: you weren't always sure how you're going to be treated.
Speaker 1: The draft pick thing is great, you know, second overall
Speaker 1: pick is such a huge carrot. Right now, you get
Speaker 1: to pick, probably gonna pick a quarterback. Obviously it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Drake mayor Caleb right, or you trade the pick,
Speaker 1: whatever you're gonna do. But that's a valuable piece, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the top I mean top five picks in
Speaker 1: the first three rounds. But I look at the thirty
Speaker 1: sixth pick, I look at the second big over. I
Speaker 1: look at the fortieth pick, like you got a bunch
Speaker 1: of draft capital right there to kind of make some
Speaker 1: big impact moves, and they're gonna be some good football
Speaker 1: players there. I started my draft prep over the last
Speaker 1: couple of days. There's some good football players here around.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of depth in the CAP's.
Speaker 1: Place, Tanna. I mean you mentioned that eighty six million
Speaker 1: dollars total cap, effective cap is sixty three million. That number,
Speaker 1: I think is a slightly misleading because they only have
Speaker 1: twenty seven people on the roster at a moment, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they got to re sign mention of a team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta re sign a lot of people, right, But
Speaker 1: I think, Fred, you brought this up that can.
Speaker 2: Kind of be a good thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it's like, oh, shoot, well we gotta
Speaker 1: fill we gotta fil a whole bunch of roster spots.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Let's get guys to fit me that I want, right,
Speaker 2: I want the guys.
Speaker 5: To get the guys that we see oare playing now
Speaker 5: playing on the you know, who's playing Sunday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I want to know.
Speaker 4: And I can say it is if you're listening that
Speaker 4: there you listening the new guy. If you listen, if
Speaker 4: you like baseball, if you like basketball, if you.
Speaker 3: Like hockey, don't forget this ownership group. You can get
Speaker 3: you to the Devil's Game seventy six. And if you
Speaker 3: like baseball, you to the doctors.
Speaker 5: Don't forget that and that and that's down the street, right,
Speaker 5: we got you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I also think ownership, I go back to ownership
Speaker 1: of how appetizing that makes this. They're going to let
Speaker 1: you do football stuff. Yeah, yes, they're not going to
Speaker 1: come in. They're not going to come in and be
Speaker 1: like you know what. I think you just take a
Speaker 1: quarterback here, It's like, well he's not on our board.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, this one hundred and nineteen.
Speaker 2: So I think that's something that like that ownership.
Speaker 1: You brought it up, and I think that's such a
Speaker 1: good point, like just having that scaffolding there.
Speaker 3: Hey, you get to meet the President of America if
Speaker 3: you come here the President of America. Yeah, you guaranteed
Speaker 3: to meet the president.
Speaker 2: If you met the President of America.
Speaker 3: Think about it. I been here since. Oh one of them, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I met to them. What's that? Three of them? Who
Speaker 3: I met? I met Bush? Bush Meet. I read to
Speaker 3: the kids at at the White House my first year.
Speaker 2: Fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you really on Eastern?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It had to be Eastern?
Speaker 2: But I didn't make book. Did you read? I can't remember.
Speaker 3: It was it was the cat.
Speaker 5: It was something for like some kindergarten to first I
Speaker 5: think kendergarten the second grade group.
Speaker 3: Of kids that I was reading too. But it was
Speaker 3: cool man. And then I met Obama before you and
Speaker 3: became president.
Speaker 5: He had he had this little I guess you can say,
Speaker 5: you know, when they kind of make their appearances, make
Speaker 5: their rounds and you got different sponsors. That's trying to
Speaker 5: you know, bring people, you know, to awareness of this guy.
Speaker 3: It was a group that was in Maryland. I believe.
Speaker 5: They asked me and Sewan Springs to be a part
Speaker 5: of their party, and they sold out tickets and Obama
Speaker 5: popped up. Obama popped the square in front of me
Speaker 5: and talked to me about football, talking about about the
Speaker 5: Chicago Bears gonna beat us that year, and we beat Chicago,
Speaker 5: and all I can think about, you know, dud Bro
Speaker 5: when I tell you the guys set there with me
Speaker 5: and Bluefoot and the bastard had a cigarette. You know,
Speaker 5: Fred has a lot of those around. He talked football man,
Speaker 5: and he talked about and he knew us for one,
Speaker 5: and so I was kind of like.
Speaker 3: See, that's the shocking thing.
Speaker 4: Every president know you and you don't know it, like
Speaker 4: they know logan policy because they watched the game.
Speaker 5: So he talked football, and it was just crazy that
Speaker 5: that season we needed to win that Chicago game to
Speaker 5: kind of get in the mix.
Speaker 3: And I had a big game. So I'm seeing that
Speaker 3: thing to myself.
Speaker 2: He watched, Yeah, he watched.
Speaker 3: We don't think about him.
Speaker 5: Sitting there saying I talked to Tanner before this game,
Speaker 5: you know, earlier this ship. But nah, it was cool
Speaker 5: just to be able to chop it up with him.
Speaker 5: So that's that's something neat. You know, you think about
Speaker 5: winning the Super Bowl, getting to do that, we actually
Speaker 5: had the opportunity and then.
Speaker 4: Win the Super Bowl, still get the meeting, and don't
Speaker 4: forget about all the embassies here.
Speaker 3: So princesses, Princess King's queen, they're watching you. I met you.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying y'all don't think about that stuff. I
Speaker 3: have been overseas and somebody was like, yeah, I come
Speaker 3: to the embassy all the time.
Speaker 2: In d C.
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Speaker 4: we don't. We forget the reach of the DMV. If
Speaker 4: if America is the most powerful country in the world,
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Speaker 1: In turn, Caroline Victor of the Fantasy Football Game, congratulations,
Speaker 1: you guys got damn friend.
Speaker 2: Ye a hater, I am a hate hater. F hater.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, I had a question. Hey, I had a question.
Speaker 5: I think Jason can answered this. How did I end
Speaker 5: up playing London when he was undefeated when we played?
Speaker 3: I don't get it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like it was like a playoffs.
Speaker 3: This thing was not correct. Okay, so he played in
Speaker 3: the playoffs, so he lost in the playoff or something.
Speaker 3: So did he lose against me?
Speaker 2: And because Caroline, Caroline, Caroline explained.
Speaker 3: What I understand that.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, explain to Carolina.
Speaker 2: Look at those rigs, girl, you got the championship ring on.
Speaker 1: We gotta get that on camera. Yeah, you got five
Speaker 1: or six big rings on it. It looks like Tom
Speaker 1: Brady out here.
Speaker 6: Here we go.
Speaker 3: We ain't got my winning ring mail ring winners.
Speaker 6: When guys, I mean and Fred, give me a little
Speaker 6: slow clap.
Speaker 3: That hate out your car.
Speaker 2: We hold that coffee for it.
Speaker 6: So what happened in the Fantasy League was these two
Speaker 6: played in the loserble uh and Fred Yeah, yes, we'll
Speaker 6: get to that later. But YouTube played in the loserble.
Speaker 6: You were the worst two teams, and Tanna played Ryan
Speaker 6: our boss in the summis and so Ryan beat you,
Speaker 6: and then I played London in the semis and I
Speaker 6: beat Lunch, got the consolation game, got you.
Speaker 3: I want to happen men, men, men, men, and then
Speaker 3: you won and then I won it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you won in a demonstrative boy. According to
Speaker 2: this she I know.
Speaker 6: Ryan kind of flopped because he's so Amari Cooper had
Speaker 6: like fifty points the week before, but then he was
Speaker 6: listed as questionable and I guess he like gambled and
Speaker 6: excuse me, wrong word, he you know, made as.
Speaker 2: Made an educated decision about the health of a pleasure.
Speaker 6: Ryan wasn't gambling. There's no money involved in this but
Speaker 6: just pride. Some of us care more about it, but
Speaker 6: some of us don't.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 3: If you lose, you love.
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you one person on my like, this
Speaker 2: is what I know.
Speaker 3: Jason did not sub my guys properly. Jason did not
Speaker 3: your team. It's your team. No drafted my team.
Speaker 5: Once Jason drafted your team, you're supposed to take the
Speaker 5: liberty and go on there and check them out and
Speaker 5: do yourself.
Speaker 3: For three weeks. And then Jason, every time you lost,
Speaker 3: yeah listen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably it was really good. So Caroline, who was
Speaker 1: on your team? And can we talk about why you
Speaker 1: were so successful.
Speaker 3: This year because we didn't really play, but.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're in like six there was a couple
Speaker 2: of games.
Speaker 3: Was your war record? What was your record? Because like
Speaker 3: some cheat because you understand something.
Speaker 5: Caroline just shows you the prime example of when it
Speaker 5: gets to that crunch time, anybody can take you home.
Speaker 3: It's no logic too.
Speaker 5: But London had he was undefeated before he got into
Speaker 5: the damn playoffs and then he just ended up losing
Speaker 5: two games.
Speaker 6: He still a lot of glues in the regular season
Speaker 6: when he was undefeated, and I think I beat him.
Speaker 2: I think you did. I think that was the big
Speaker 2: we talked about that.
Speaker 6: I think so too.
Speaker 2: Okay a comment if you remember fans, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Basically, if you were actually played fantasy, there was a
Speaker 6: lot of inconsistency. Then really good players Justin.
Speaker 3: Jefferson didn't all this year.
Speaker 4: A lot of guys that you thought was gonna be
Speaker 4: the core of your Teamnte Adams.
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson the receiver, wasn't he like third? He was
Speaker 2: like leading the NFL. He got but then he got hurt.
Speaker 3: Heard about six.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, he was like crushing it.
Speaker 3: So like nobody.
Speaker 5: What he's saying is that particular day that you want
Speaker 5: that guy to be that guy, you can't either play
Speaker 5: him or when you do pick him, you.
Speaker 3: Don't know, okay, and he doesn't show up, you see him.
Speaker 6: Justin Jefferson is like top three Fantasy. Like he got
Speaker 6: a thousand yards and he missed seven or eight games.
Speaker 5: He's so, did he still get a thousand yards?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he crossed the bow. That is great.
Speaker 6: So anyway, he came alive again the last few weeks.
Speaker 6: I started rotating him back, so that definitely helped because
Speaker 6: he kind of came out the gate again, just like
Speaker 6: being good Cy DeVante Adams too, like the last week,
Speaker 6: he was just like crushing it.
Speaker 2: You got a good team.
Speaker 6: Oh, I also reall in that one game against US,
Speaker 6: just five.
Speaker 2: It's so funny that I had Smith on my team,
Speaker 2: so obviously very talented team. Let's talk abou.
Speaker 1: Let's make it commander centric here, this conversation best commander
Speaker 1: in fantasy Okay, So, actually all.
Speaker 6: Right, so I looked up some actual numbers instead of
Speaker 6: you know, well, I didn't really count Sam in this
Speaker 6: because quarterbacks typically get they should at point, so I
Speaker 6: didn't include Sam in this, but he was the top
Speaker 6: if he were really going to go by that, I
Speaker 6: thought I get some actual numbers, So I didn't just
Speaker 6: you know, Fred smooth up here and split some random
Speaker 6: numbers for you.
Speaker 3: I thought I get some colleague. Well, just skiing here next,
Speaker 3: your colleague will.
Speaker 6: Put some truth on this show.
Speaker 3: I'm the pope.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: The top commander minus Sam was b Rob. He had
Speaker 6: won seventy one total with fourteen games played.
Speaker 2: So is that good? I have no context for that.
Speaker 6: It's pretty yeah, it's good. That's pretty good.
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 6: I mean for fourteen games too, And so the second
Speaker 6: was Terry with one sixty one, but he was at sixteen,
Speaker 6: but he did drop a donut one week, which definitely
Speaker 6: hurt him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that could everybody. I had so Waite probably with that,
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 6: I had Curtis at three with one twenty two.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 1: I mean those are the most effective guys in the team,
Speaker 1: right yeah, all right? And then in your opinion, your
Speaker 1: expert opinion, now that you've won the Commander's Fantasy League,
Speaker 1: who was the breakout sleeper? Me?
Speaker 2: Boy, please, boy, please? What that was?
Speaker 3: Executive? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 6: How what?
Speaker 3: How could you possibly?
Speaker 2: Boy?
Speaker 3: Just blame Jason. Jason be hating me. God, he's too much.
Speaker 1: It's like I thought, I thought we'd see a new
Speaker 1: Fred here, like more humbled after the basketball experience.
Speaker 2: But no, it's impossible. But I'm still.
Speaker 6: You should just regroup.
Speaker 3: Ain't no letting the camp down. You gotta stay.
Speaker 2: I got you, I got you.
Speaker 6: Okay, So breakout sleeper for my team it was Brice
Speaker 6: Hall or George Pickens.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, those are excellent, excellent football players. And he
Speaker 1: was pretty explosive down the stretch of.
Speaker 6: Pickings, right, yeah, he was like kind of similar. That's
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Inconsistency, Like in.
Speaker 3: The cornerback change came when it went, it happened.
Speaker 4: But mine was probably my blow up guys was who
Speaker 4: I don't know shop.
Speaker 2: You don't even know it's on your team, which is okay, Fred,
Speaker 2: you didn't take it serious.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: Hey, at the end of the day, Jason sent me
Speaker 3: up for failure and I failed.
Speaker 2: You can't you can't say you're executive in the year.
Speaker 3: It was like saying that you cheated onf some my
Speaker 3: paper and they and we both got out. Why do
Speaker 3: you studying your team?
Speaker 6: Like, isn't awful?
Speaker 3: Who's tell me what I got?
Speaker 2: Jason? That Fred is taking ownership.
Speaker 3: I rent the house from him. Yeah, so we got nobody.
Speaker 2: He's got to all right, all right, I didn't even
Speaker 2: know those on your team didn't even know that. Who.
Speaker 6: I think the week you won, you you have d
Speaker 6: J Morre and I'm pretty sure you played it. Yes,
Speaker 6: I think it was he had one good.
Speaker 5: Game, gives us fawns twelve?
Speaker 3: Who what do you he slowed down at the end
Speaker 3: of the year.
Speaker 6: Who else got checkom games man?
Speaker 3: Listen, Jason, last don't failure?
Speaker 6: What did you said, Carolyn twenty six points last year?
Speaker 6: And you have to you swift, you've the Eagles running.
Speaker 4: He slowed down and didn't let you listen. Jason, he's
Speaker 4: sabotage man. I've been sabotized before. Yeah, nobody call what do?
Speaker 3: I got a pro bowl?
Speaker 2: Do? I got on to uh too? Was in the
Speaker 2: m VP conversation for like fifty percent years.
Speaker 6: Also on your bench you have Josh Jacobs and Clyde Edwards,
Speaker 6: Hilaire neither one, Tyler Lockett, Hopkins listen, have a.
Speaker 3: Big Hopkins listen.
Speaker 2: But this is the worst.
Speaker 3: Hell, y'all not realized. It's only five people, six people in.
Speaker 6: Johnathanor worried.
Speaker 3: Dude, what are you?
Speaker 7: He didn't kill He didn't even knows understand that he
Speaker 7: didn't care. He was talking all every week we talked
Speaker 7: about this Fanny stuff. And do you think Fred went
Speaker 7: on that phone and look, no, he didn't care. He
Speaker 7: blames Jason and the one week he won, remember that,
Speaker 7: I'm the best GM.
Speaker 1: Wait, how did you beat everybody and then lose? Oh
Speaker 1: that was when he didn't start.
Speaker 3: You ain't starting.
Speaker 5: Nobody lost, Hey, Caroline, just tell him even the garbage
Speaker 5: gets to stay carry now and then.
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, we were the last team when I was
Speaker 4: here to beat the EVA Empire of New England before
Speaker 4: they started winning nineteen championships, so I have to have
Speaker 4: good victories now.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, back to Carolina. She's the expert here on.
Speaker 6: Talking about fantasy. You're talking about real life.
Speaker 2: Well said my fantasy team. Who is this year's fantasy
Speaker 2: m v purse m v P for me? For your
Speaker 2: team or for the for our league?
Speaker 6: Probably Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: Here it sads, he's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Come for me.
Speaker 6: Josh Allen is good. Justin Jefferson is really good, but
Speaker 6: he missed up bunch of games.
Speaker 2: Josh.
Speaker 4: If I could only head Josh Allen, man, I wish
Speaker 4: I had anybody there's steal in the n f A.
Speaker 1: My guy, dude, that that that that argument doesn't weak.
Speaker 1: That argument doesn't work when you we just read off
Speaker 1: your team of like.
Speaker 2: Like seven football play guys.
Speaker 1: All right, and then can you give us analysis on
Speaker 1: the toilet Bowl, which is between me and Fred and why.
Speaker 2: Fred, let's go look at that. Let's go look.
Speaker 3: Let's get that you.
Speaker 1: Did wind eighty three points.
Speaker 3: Somehow you just thank it than I say, what, what's
Speaker 3: the trophy and frozen turn trophy? I don't know it.
Speaker 2: Some tissue, some dirty tissue.
Speaker 6: You're telling me Logan got you in the basketball game
Speaker 6: and the Toilet Bowl.
Speaker 2: Six, I lost, I lost, you lost, I think I lost.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So so Fred? So Fred doesn't know anything
Speaker 2: about fantasy. I don't know. I know less than Fred.
Speaker 3: You can't get Fred that credit, man, get that credit, Jason.
Speaker 1: So the score was a one twenty five point nine
Speaker 1: to eighty three point eighty four. And I don't know
Speaker 1: a lot about fantasy, but that seems like a very
Speaker 1: small number.
Speaker 6: DJ Morgan just lit it up for you over there.
Speaker 3: Thank you don't even know it.
Speaker 2: That's my DJ.
Speaker 3: Jason.
Speaker 2: Great jobs, Jason, Great jobs.
Speaker 6: Go ahead was pretty good. You should have tried a
Speaker 6: little hard.
Speaker 3: Come on, hey, I'm one of them guys. Man, you
Speaker 3: gotta let that river flows.
Speaker 1: Not really, I mean, if you, if you actually you're
Speaker 1: getting Jason all this time, and we are our fantasy expert.
Speaker 1: Caroline says, that's a well drafted team, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: trust Carell.
Speaker 6: It's pretty it's pretty solid.
Speaker 3: We had how many people nobody goes to a rest
Speaker 3: run it's pretty slid.
Speaker 6: Sick, so we all should get some Nobody.
Speaker 2: Even on my team, who was the who scored the
Speaker 2: most points.
Speaker 6: From he was really good?
Speaker 3: Lamar lamar, lamar.
Speaker 2: And here the most points. Did anyone else score any
Speaker 2: points or no?
Speaker 6: You this like see this is the unlucky part. Like
Speaker 6: your guys just had a bad day straight up.
Speaker 5: Like I've been on fantasy leagues like that. I have
Speaker 5: all the best and I'm on showt when.
Speaker 4: It's ime what you call a fantasy league bandit because
Speaker 4: I didn't been in like six fans so and I
Speaker 4: have yet to pay off any money.
Speaker 1: So Terry, I'm running in Carol, because you're the expert.
Speaker 1: If you're giving someone advice for fantasy football, ain't nothing.
Speaker 1: What's the advice.
Speaker 6: I'm not the expert.
Speaker 3: You won.
Speaker 4: This is people whoever was hot the year before, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be at the top of the draft. Don't draft
Speaker 4: because they won't have hot back to back big old
Speaker 4: year Justin Jefferson was number one. Look at all the
Speaker 4: top fantasy guys from the year before and tell me
Speaker 4: what they did this year. Just jeff Jefferson won at
Speaker 4: the top of it. A lot of these guys were
Speaker 4: not at the top. That was at the top of
Speaker 4: the year before.
Speaker 6: Christian McCaffrey has been the top fantasy guy for the
Speaker 6: bow was Lamar also really good fantasy.
Speaker 3: It's probably been his biggest fantasy year this year.
Speaker 6: You want to v you wanted, But so what's the
Speaker 6: advice the advice so I don't know the exact thing
Speaker 6: for I don't know if our league was you know
Speaker 6: what running backs, when they catch a pass, it counts
Speaker 6: as a point, so it was so you want to
Speaker 6: get a running back that catches the ball a lot too,
Speaker 6: because they just get a quick point just straight off
Speaker 6: an easy pass. I mean, Christian McCaffrey runs the ball
Speaker 6: for ten yards, that's a point. So I think about
Speaker 6: how many times he gets it just a plane run
Speaker 6: for ten yards against us it was going So he
Speaker 6: does that, he catches a few passes, and then he
Speaker 6: scores a touchdown. He had a touchdown streak of like
Speaker 6: seventeen games. So he's my number one fantasy guy. And
Speaker 6: Lamar has also just been playing out of this world.
Speaker 2: So your advice is find good football, find.
Speaker 6: Dual threats, and then find a sleeper like I had
Speaker 6: a lave on the Saints, and he was pretty good
Speaker 6: some weeks.
Speaker 2: But so how do you make the decision to say
Speaker 2: is going to start the boot?
Speaker 6: So I thought that he would be the saints number
Speaker 6: one ride receiver pretty much because but he like never plays.
Speaker 6: So my thought process was, oh, yeah, Derek Carton throwing
Speaker 6: the ball off didn't really a lot of res but
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, it's worth a shot. You have
Speaker 6: to find somebody that one of these people when everyone's drafting.
Speaker 1: This is the analysis from the expert Boo. Find good
Speaker 1: football players that score touchdowns and catch passes and then
Speaker 1: find a sleeper and.
Speaker 3: Don't let Jason draft your team. How about that, we've
Speaker 3: just proven that.
Speaker 6: That's also draft a quarterback. Of the drafted the quarterback.
Speaker 3: She is the only one real old team and she won.
Speaker 3: I dropped my quarterback.
Speaker 6: Tenna and I were doing it live.
Speaker 5: I had mine, but I wasn't playing around. I had
Speaker 5: Pat Mahomes and then I had backups. I had a
Speaker 5: slew of backup from now we only it was only
Speaker 5: six players in this league.
Speaker 2: So I had a gang.
Speaker 3: Let me let me tell you my lemon reading. And
Speaker 3: that's the thing.
Speaker 4: See, the two people that took their destiny in their hand.
Speaker 4: They had high scores than the.
Speaker 3: People that Jason took care of.
Speaker 2: I let the computer do mine because I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: put that evil on Jason.
Speaker 6: I mean, Jason was better than Logans.
Speaker 3: So this is my team.
Speaker 2: My team was thank you Caroline for supporting Jason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's all Jason behind friend's always like
Speaker 3: the computer.
Speaker 6: The computer picks and it's better to a on mynology.
Speaker 3: Listen, I'll got youall versions.
Speaker 5: I got the trick out check off my guys. I
Speaker 5: had Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 2: That's prettyod.
Speaker 5: These are the guys that started like the last couple
Speaker 5: of weeks from me. I had Pat Mahomes, Mike Evans,
Speaker 5: I mean, DJ Metcalf, Jay Flowers, that's all you need.
Speaker 3: Montgomery a chain, the porter.
Speaker 2: I like that, it seems like and then I have enough.
Speaker 3: I had.
Speaker 5: Was my bench was Dotson. I had Tyreek Hill on
Speaker 5: the bench because he heard his ankle.
Speaker 3: He was playing for me the whole year. That doesn't
Speaker 3: sound nothing like my team. I had Robinson on the bench.
Speaker 2: I had c J.
Speaker 3: Stroude on the bench.
Speaker 1: I tell you, I got his fun out on the
Speaker 1: bench and he can't even figure out where it is
Speaker 1: my kicker on Otter Tick.
Speaker 5: Look, my kicker was Tucker and my defense was the Jets.
Speaker 2: That's not a bad day. But you see what this
Speaker 2: is my thing.
Speaker 3: This is my point. I got third in the league.
Speaker 5: But my point is, you see all I had. You
Speaker 5: just have to know when to put him in. Because
Speaker 5: because I had Tyreek Hill in the one game, that's
Speaker 5: why he ate up on my bench because he was
Speaker 5: hurt that game.
Speaker 3: I didn't know and I gambled like she said, I
Speaker 3: gambled and.
Speaker 5: Say, hell he's gonna play. They say he questionable, and
Speaker 5: he didn't. He didn't play, So you know when things
Speaker 5: blow up on my face the next week, he wasn't
Speaker 5: playing it all. So I benched him and that's the
Speaker 5: way he had like sixteen points.
Speaker 2: So all right, Caroline, final thoughts anything.
Speaker 6: On to that, Uh, nothing much. Just want to say
Speaker 6: thanks for having me and Victory Labs all Yeah, it's
Speaker 6: my victory line.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, congrats on winning, well deserved, big Rings show everybody out,
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