Speaker 1: Jags get a big win in Houston yesterday winding their
Speaker 1: lead in the AFC South. What was the most impressive
Speaker 1: part of the win yesterday? Do you guys on.
Speaker 2: Battle Red Day in Houston, down fourteen thirteen, going right
Speaker 2: down the field.
Speaker 3: To take a lead they wouldn't relinquish.
Speaker 2: It was in great response to the Texans trying to
Speaker 2: grab momentum.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this kind of plays into that the will and
Speaker 4: the resilience of the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Welcome into Jags Am presented by Carshield and Cannannie Stevens,
Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, and John Oser with me today as we
Speaker 1: recap one of the biggest games of the year for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. We knew it was gonna be a big
Speaker 1: one going into it. But our first big thing of
Speaker 1: the day is Cardiac Cats because they made it dramatic.
Speaker 1: Went right down to the final play of this game
Speaker 1: and a miss field goal was the difference as the
Speaker 1: Jaguars is not out of Houston with a win and
Speaker 1: a big game for the team this year. Don Peterson
Speaker 1: talked about it after the game.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's game eleven, but they're all they're always big, right,
Speaker 5: I mean, meantime you play your your division. They're all
Speaker 5: big games and and you know, obviously we understand what
Speaker 5: this team did to us, you know, a few weeks back.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 5: It's it is another you know, a game on the schedule,
Speaker 5: a lot of football ahead still, but.
Speaker 3: You know it's big.
Speaker 5: I mean, you don't ever want to go oh and
Speaker 5: two against a division fo you know, any any year obviously,
Speaker 5: But our guys, you know, our guys will respond again,
Speaker 5: you know, are just much likely did this week. It's
Speaker 5: gotta take. It's gonna take a good week of prep
Speaker 5: and and their their film study and and all of that,
Speaker 5: but great opportunity. Jodan's gonna be loud. You know, they're
Speaker 5: playing extremely well. We are too, and it should be.
Speaker 5: It should be a good matchup.
Speaker 1: Brian, we talked ear this week about how this game
Speaker 1: might have huge implications on the AFC South, almost an
Speaker 1: AFC South title game early in the year. But they'll
Speaker 1: live up to the billing.
Speaker 3: To you, what's the right way to say this, it's
Speaker 3: all but over right.
Speaker 2: I mean, there are games left to play, and there
Speaker 2: are six games left.
Speaker 3: To play, so there's a lot of football left. Anything
Speaker 3: could happen.
Speaker 2: But the Jaguars now have a commanding two game lead
Speaker 2: with six to play. They still have the ability to
Speaker 2: have a big home game, two big home games right
Speaker 2: against AFC Powers. There's a lot of opportunity for this
Speaker 2: team to just steamroll their way to the division title.
Speaker 2: It won't be easy, but it feels like they wrapped
Speaker 2: it up yesterday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think Doug and anybody with experience and
Speaker 4: the team would tell you it's over as long as
Speaker 4: they do what they need to do. Meaning if you
Speaker 4: limp down the stretch and go one and five, you're
Speaker 4: not going anywhere anyway. So I guess the point is
Speaker 4: that they set themselves. I was up to concentrate on
Speaker 4: the number one seed, the number two seed and think
Speaker 4: about those kind of things. You don't ignore the division,
Speaker 4: But now you can, as Trevor said, if they do
Speaker 4: what they're supposed to do, they don't have to worry
Speaker 4: about that. And boy, what a difference from last year.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: It's nice to be in the front and not have
Speaker 1: to try to win every game in a row to
Speaker 1: win the division. So it's a good spot to be
Speaker 1: at at this point in the year. 's like a
Speaker 1: big thing today is gonna be zeroed in. Calvin Ridley
Speaker 1: had a huge game against the Titans, two touchdowns here
Speaker 1: at EverBank Stadium, and he had a really big second
Speaker 1: half yesterday. And he talked a little bit postgame about
Speaker 1: how while he had to drop early on in the game,
Speaker 1: he didn't let himself get out of it all.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bounce that every time.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm mad about it, but I'm not that mad about it.
Speaker 3: People everything, it was just like, I make that.
Speaker 4: But I'm not dead mad. I'm not out of the game.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm saying, I'm not out of the game.
Speaker 3: I'm ready to make continue to make plays.
Speaker 4: I want to don't stop throwing at the ball.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm ready, but i want to make that play. But
Speaker 4: I'm never out of the game. I may look like
Speaker 4: I am, but I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm ready to to you to make plays. So what
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 1: Calvin says, he's never out of the game. John We
Speaker 1: certainly saw that in the second half, as he was
Speaker 1: a crucial part to this kind of comeback, if you
Speaker 1: will a little bit in the second half and the win.
Speaker 4: Well, he was the go to guy, and even when
Speaker 4: he wasn't producing, receiving, numbers on this team this year,
Speaker 4: what is it eleven games in He's always been the
Speaker 4: hardest guy to cover on this team. For the defensive backs,
Speaker 4: I think it's twelve penalties. Now he's drawing eleven when
Speaker 4: they needed it. Yesterday he came up big. I had
Speaker 4: some fans. Oh, he had to drop in the first half. Look,
Speaker 4: the NFL's hard. You don't catch everything. He has mattered
Speaker 4: a great deal. I think this was again, you can
Speaker 4: count four or five games this year now, Brian, I'm
Speaker 4: not sure they win three or four games if he's
Speaker 4: not on the field. I'm not sure they win yesterday
Speaker 4: if he's not in the field.
Speaker 2: The last two weeks, he really has looked John like
Speaker 2: the number one receiver, a guy who can take over
Speaker 2: the game. And it's important to remember that when he
Speaker 2: first got to Atlanta, that was Julio Jones.
Speaker 3: He was the accouterment.
Speaker 2: This is the first time in his career where he's
Speaker 2: the legitimate alpha receiver. And if you combine that with
Speaker 2: the fact that it takes time to develop chemistry with
Speaker 2: the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Right now we are.
Speaker 2: Just starting to see the Calvin Ridley, the Trent Balkey
Speaker 2: and Doug Riederson Peterson thought they were going to get
Speaker 2: when they made the trade last year. I mean, he
Speaker 2: ran the same route on the touchdown as on the
Speaker 2: two point conversion.
Speaker 3: How many guys could get away with that, right?
Speaker 2: He is tremendous and I think he's got so much
Speaker 2: upside left.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what he does in the
Speaker 3: ring six games of the year.
Speaker 1: Our final big thing this week is on the other
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Pay the man. It's about Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: He's in a contract year and he's been earning every
Speaker 1: penny with his play so far this season. Two huge
Speaker 1: sacks on that last play, that last possession for the Texans,
Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence talked a little bit about the play
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen yesterday.
Speaker 6: They did a great job offensively of being able to
Speaker 6: do that and extend plays. But then you know, our
Speaker 6: pass rush really stepped up at the end of the
Speaker 6: game and got some huge sacks.
Speaker 3: I mean you look at both those plays.
Speaker 6: To keep them, you know, and almost made it, but
Speaker 6: to keep them out a field goal range and make
Speaker 6: that a fifty eight to fifty nine yarder, that's huge.
Speaker 6: You know, if you let him get some yards there
Speaker 6: and they're kicking a fifty yarder. That's a big difference.
Speaker 6: So I mean that won us the game, and our
Speaker 6: defense really stepped up.
Speaker 1: One of them saw the kick go off the crossbar,
Speaker 1: so it certainly was all the difference. Those sacks definitely
Speaker 1: played a role in that. Brian, we don't tell the
Speaker 1: GM what to do very often, but pay the man.
Speaker 1: Seems like Josh needs to be paid well.
Speaker 2: And look, Josh Allen in Detroit in August came into
Speaker 2: one of our preseason production meetings and said he was
Speaker 2: betting on himself to finish this year, to finish the play,
Speaker 2: and he did yesterday. He finished the game with his
Speaker 2: strongest performance of this season. You know, we can focus
Speaker 2: on that because he and trayvond we're just wrecking that
Speaker 2: offensive front and creating havoc. But John, the pass rush
Speaker 2: over all old yesterday, led by Josh Allen, it got
Speaker 2: to the quarterback. It didn't do Week three, Roy Robertson
Speaker 2: Harris was getting pressure up the middle. You saw ninety
Speaker 2: one and ninety five and ninety four. They were also
Speaker 2: making him move his feet. It was a strong performance
Speaker 2: by the Jaguars pass rush in a game that they
Speaker 2: needed it led by Josh Allen, who now has a
Speaker 2: career high twelve sacks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it shows you how different the game is now. Brian.
Speaker 4: If you had said twenty years ago, somebody throws for whatever.
Speaker 4: C J. Stroud threw four over three hundred two touchdowns,
Speaker 4: you said, oh, they didn't get any pass rush. Oh
Speaker 4: what a terrible defensive game. Well you can have a
Speaker 4: good defensive game now and a guy still have those
Speaker 4: kind of numbers. They did affect CJ. Stroud. They got
Speaker 4: to him in big moments. I always talk about breaking
Speaker 4: serve on defense in this day and age. It felt
Speaker 4: to me like they affected him enough that it kept
Speaker 4: them in control of the game. And I know the numbers,
Speaker 4: and there were certain plays that didn't show that against
Speaker 4: a guy like c. J. Strodd, you're not going to
Speaker 4: stop every play very often. They effect to him when
Speaker 4: it mattered, and they had big stops at the end
Speaker 4: of the game and any game events is those plays mattered.
Speaker 4: And good for Josh Allen. I mean, it's how hard
Speaker 4: he's worked, how much he's wanted it, how close he's
Speaker 4: been to see it all come to fruition, and it's
Speaker 4: pretty cool.
Speaker 3: I think it's important.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that it's tough the way that the league
Speaker 2: is set up these days, and the Jaguars saw Tank
Speaker 2: Dell get them for a couple of plays and then
Speaker 2: they clamp down on him, and he finished with five
Speaker 2: catches for fifty yards. He did have the touchdown, So
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Nico Collins becomes the guy and
Speaker 2: then the Jaguars lean towards him. And then there's Xavier Henderson,
Speaker 2: the rookie from Iowa State. This quarterback Stroud, within the
Speaker 2: context of the way that the rules are set up,
Speaker 2: is a really gifted quarterback and a guy that can
Speaker 2: make a lot of different throws. The Jaguars came up
Speaker 2: with the plays John when they needed to. You're not
Speaker 2: going to keep the numbers from these quarterbacks. That's just
Speaker 2: not the way the rules are written these days. They
Speaker 2: want to see they being the league and they want
Speaker 2: to see these quarterbacks putting the ball up and down
Speaker 2: the field. It's just about your defense breaking serve to
Speaker 2: where three times in the second half of the Jags
Speaker 2: did that.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good plays on both sides of
Speaker 1: the football. Yesterday. Coming up after the break, we will
Speaker 1: go over all of the highlights for you from Jaguars Texans.
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Speaker 1: some more highlights from yesterday. It's nice to have a
Speaker 1: lot of highlights to go over. I'm sure some people
Speaker 1: didn't like the drama of the game, but made for
Speaker 1: interesting viewing.
Speaker 3: What makes it the number one sport in America?
Speaker 4: Sure is?
Speaker 1: So it's good. And let's start out with Trevor's first
Speaker 1: touchdown of the day, as he you know, we saw
Speaker 1: him set it up and then he hasn't been great
Speaker 1: on the kind of quarterback sneaks that we've seen from him.
Speaker 1: At least they look a little more stressful than they
Speaker 1: should be. John, I think I was sitting next to
Speaker 1: you and I was like, this is like the most
Speaker 1: stressful quarterback sneak I've seen.
Speaker 3: But I'm sure you didn't like the one handed reach
Speaker 3: with the ball.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, he does it get away with it
Speaker 4: some times It'll bite him at some point. Look, I
Speaker 4: get a lot of questions about why don't they quarterbacks
Speaker 4: sneak want we're not good at it, and it's not
Speaker 4: necessarily trever. They are not a mammoth the terrifically strong
Speaker 4: interior line that gets a lot of push, and you know,
Speaker 4: they haven't been that so far, so it's hard for
Speaker 4: them to quarterback sneak. So that makes these situations difficult.
Speaker 2: The thing that put my heart in my throat. You
Speaker 2: see how quickly his arm is rocketed backwards. Yes, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, you know, he got it over the line,
Speaker 2: But look how quickly that one goes backwards. You're right, John,
Speaker 2: it's a dangerous way to play the game.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they'll figure out they need that tush push at
Speaker 1: some point.
Speaker 3: Together.
Speaker 2: They've got to figure out how to ram it in
Speaker 2: from a yard out without risking the ball.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe we can get Tank to come around.
Speaker 2: One six yard carry one And I thought, there you go, boy,
Speaker 2: because I had made him my hot take last week
Speaker 2: and I thought, all right, you're on.
Speaker 3: And then he didn't see the ball again.
Speaker 4: I just well, Travis was out of the game at
Speaker 4: that point, and so they went a little deeper in
Speaker 4: running back rotation.
Speaker 3: So he had had a six yard rush.
Speaker 2: I mean, I still think you're going to see him.
Speaker 2: He's going to be a solution to a problem at
Speaker 2: some point this year.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was happy to see Deernest in there as well.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Stroud's touchdown to Tank Dell. So we
Speaker 1: were worried about this a little bit, just because we
Speaker 1: know the propensity for the big play for the Texans
Speaker 1: and just that scrambling ability. And as much as we
Speaker 1: talked about miscommunication in the backfield, it's really hard when
Speaker 1: you're expecting your DB's to cover somebody for seven, eight, nine,
Speaker 1: ten seconds. And that's a lot of what c J. Stroud.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize as much until we watched this game yesterday.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of what he does. His scrambling ability
Speaker 1: gives him so much time that his receivers find a
Speaker 1: way to get open, and that's where a lot of
Speaker 1: those big plays come from.
Speaker 3: Well, this was an this was an evolution to his game. Ky.
Speaker 2: We didn't see it in the first game that he
Speaker 2: ran around and made plays on the run. It's something
Speaker 2: that he clearly is capable of doing it with that
Speaker 2: receiver Dell, Who's revolt. What a tremendous rookie season he's having.
Speaker 2: He's so hard to cover.
Speaker 3: John. Maybe there's a receiver you recall like him, but
Speaker 3: he looks different to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's hard to cover. And I got some pushback
Speaker 4: from fans, Oh why the only rush three here? Well, look,
Speaker 4: they brought a lot of pressure. I don't think overall
Speaker 4: yesterday they could have pressured him any better. They know
Speaker 4: he plays this way. If you watch them rush the
Speaker 4: past or Brian and Kuy there were a lot of
Speaker 4: times where they were staying in their lanes. They were
Speaker 4: trying to contain even on that play, instead of going
Speaker 4: after him. They were sort of playing, you know, angle
Speaker 4: defense if you I'm not putting it. I'm not putting
Speaker 4: that very well. But they were trying to stay in
Speaker 4: lanes and contain him a little bit. Look, if the
Speaker 4: blitz worked every time, everybody would do it every play.
Speaker 4: You can't do it every play. On that play, it
Speaker 4: got him because they made a play against the good team.
Speaker 4: That's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Sometimes when you drop eight like that against your rookie quarterback,
Speaker 2: you're betting that you can force him to make a
Speaker 2: throw that he doesn't necessarily want to, and it could
Speaker 2: become a turnover, a takeaway.
Speaker 3: It didn't happen.
Speaker 2: That was a great throw, dangerous throw back across your
Speaker 2: body into traffic, but Dell slid away from Rayshawn Jenkins
Speaker 2: and it was a good throw by c J.
Speaker 3: Straw.
Speaker 2: But you're gonna drop eight against quarterbacks. That's another thing
Speaker 2: they do in this league is try to try to
Speaker 2: create some confusion and give them a different look and
Speaker 2: see if you can create turnovers.
Speaker 4: And if you surprise them with the blitz every time,
Speaker 4: guess what happens. You know it's a surprise war. So
Speaker 4: you can pick a part that play. But I thought
Speaker 4: the defensive plan yesterday against an ascending quarterback was very good.
Speaker 1: We'll go to the waning seconds of the first half
Speaker 1: because the Texans missed a field goal and the Jaguars
Speaker 1: got the ball back with a little over thirty seconds
Speaker 1: I think at that point, and then they got a
Speaker 1: huge play at a Christian Kirk. I think they were
Speaker 1: just trying to get into field goal territory. They almost
Speaker 1: got a touchdown on this play and then they chose
Speaker 1: to go for it. And I talked to I wrote
Speaker 1: it a little bit about it. I talked to John
Speaker 1: about it too. I wasn't surprised Doug wanted to go
Speaker 1: for it. They didn't get it, and I think that's
Speaker 1: where you know, Doug always likes to go for it,
Speaker 1: and then you know, when you don't get it, they criticize.
Speaker 1: When you get it, you look really smart. So I
Speaker 1: wasn't against it, and I think it was smart. And
Speaker 1: I think when you look at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: you see what sometimes the conservative gets you.
Speaker 2: Well, look, Doug, he said right after the game, but
Speaker 2: I'm going to go forward again. You know, this play
Speaker 2: didn't work, so by default is a bad play. But
Speaker 2: I would rather see the ball go forward than back,
Speaker 2: and it has to go back to the six yard
Speaker 2: line to get into the end zone. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is where I think the Jaguars need to focus on
Speaker 2: finding a way to get a yard or two going
Speaker 2: forward when.
Speaker 3: They want it.
Speaker 4: Well, they don't trust the interior on that play. And
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to bash that, no, it's just it's
Speaker 4: so far in eleven games that play pushing forward has
Speaker 4: not developed trust to be used in this situation. A
Speaker 4: lot of feedback in the ozone about it. You know,
Speaker 4: dumb call kick the field goal, take the points. Look,
Speaker 4: if you don't like that approach, don't watch the Jaguars
Speaker 4: an because it's going to be him. So I got
Speaker 4: an email last night saying, I am so tired of
Speaker 4: watching this team give up field goals they ought to
Speaker 4: be kicking. And our responsors are you tired of being
Speaker 4: in first place?
Speaker 1: Winning?
Speaker 4: Because that's the trade off. Doug believes that the long
Speaker 4: and short term benefits of aggression in that situation far
Speaker 4: out weigh the occasional short term risk negative whatever it is.
Speaker 4: He believed right there he could end the game and
Speaker 4: it didn't happen, but he believes overall, if he does
Speaker 4: that ten times and ends the game six times, that's
Speaker 4: more of a benefit that you can make up for
Speaker 4: it if you miss it, but it's a kill shot
Speaker 4: if you hit it.
Speaker 2: It may not happen this year, but I would love
Speaker 2: to see them figure out a way to run the
Speaker 2: ball in from the one yard line. But again, I
Speaker 2: mean they're not the Eagles, right, I mean, if the
Speaker 2: Eagles get the ball in the one yard line, is
Speaker 2: there any doubt they're scoring? No, Because no one has
Speaker 2: figured out how to stop that. And with a six
Speaker 2: foot six quarterback, it isn't the same dynamic. I totally
Speaker 2: get that, but I think I'm speaking for a lot
Speaker 2: of people when I say figure out a way to
Speaker 2: get the yard when you need the yard.
Speaker 4: I'd like to say it too. But I also don't
Speaker 4: think you need to be silly and continue to drive
Speaker 4: your head against the wallace NYE.
Speaker 2: Right, No, no, no, I'm talking long term, because again, if
Speaker 2: they're up twenty seven, twenty to seven there, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that the Texans can't mount a comeback, but I'm
Speaker 2: saying the Jaguars are a lot more aggressive in the
Speaker 2: second half on defense. I just I think that that's
Speaker 2: that next step you go to instead of walking off
Speaker 2: the field, you walk off twenty to seven and you say, hey,
Speaker 2: now we're really coming after you.
Speaker 1: And you're getting the ball back after the gap.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Dougast said at time and again the last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks, we haven't done anything yet, right, right, They're
Speaker 2: still evolving into who they're going to be as a
Speaker 2: football team. That's just one of those things on the
Speaker 2: to do list that they've got to figure out.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna jump to the second half. Now.
Speaker 1: That questionable call on Evan we're gonna skip over that
Speaker 1: the holding call that just ended up being a pick
Speaker 1: that led to this touchdown from CJ. Stroud where we
Speaker 1: saw him kind of rushing in which we didn't see
Speaker 1: him running a whole lot was more scrambling to throw.
Speaker 1: But it's just he's dynamic in a way, and obviously
Speaker 1: the national media talks about him all the time. But
Speaker 1: he's different than the first time we saw him, because
Speaker 1: I thought he was great the first time we saw him,
Speaker 1: and now he's like, maybe he's a little too confident,
Speaker 1: maybe because some throws I think are a little not
Speaker 1: quite there yet. But he's feeling himself and he's making
Speaker 1: some of the throws, so that's probably why he has
Speaker 1: the confidence.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a good player and still evolving, which makes
Speaker 4: him a good because he's clearly adapting to what defenses
Speaker 4: are trying to do, which is that second step. You know,
Speaker 4: he takes certain things away, then he answers it by
Speaker 4: being able to counter that. He's gonna be good for
Speaker 4: a long time. He's a good player. Jarrisaid, for you
Speaker 4: other way to beat him. He's not God. He didn't
Speaker 4: score forty two points. They stay scored twenty one. So
Speaker 4: they figured out a way to beat him. I thought
Speaker 4: they contained them, They got them off the field a lot,
Speaker 4: and at the end of the game they limited that
Speaker 4: last drive as much as they needed to.
Speaker 2: This was the only game worth watching in the early
Speaker 2: window yesterday, and it has a lot of people around
Speaker 2: the league saying this is going to be a great
Speaker 2: matchup for years to come.
Speaker 3: It was a fun football game to watch.
Speaker 2: And I know Trevor said after the game he hopes
Speaker 2: that the teams in the division aren't that good. It's
Speaker 2: better for this. This guy's good and this team is good.
Speaker 2: Depending on what happens in Indianapolis, this is going to
Speaker 2: go from a division that was sort of also ran
Speaker 2: oh the South, they're not that good to one of
Speaker 2: the better divisions in football. And that's just Jack's gotta
Speaker 2: buckle up and get ready for it because it's going
Speaker 2: to be a fight every Sunday.
Speaker 4: That was a great answer on Trevor's parton I don't
Speaker 4: want them to be good. I want I want him
Speaker 4: to be you know. Yeah, he was to Dominator right,
Speaker 4: so of course he doesn't like it. When when the
Speaker 4: question was asked, I was like, I don't particularly like
Speaker 4: I worked for the Jag. Yes, yeah, you'd rather see
Speaker 4: j Stroud stink and he doesn't stink.
Speaker 1: Certainly does not.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a prime time game next year, you
Speaker 3: watch it, I sure hope.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a good one to watch both
Speaker 1: times that they play each other. Let's talk about that
Speaker 1: Trevor to Calvin Ridley touchdown and then the two point
Speaker 1: conversion that was the exact same play. Because it went
Speaker 1: so well the first time, they just did it again
Speaker 1: right after that, that whole possession. I know they got
Speaker 1: the p I call to set up the first and
Speaker 1: goal again for them there, but I was just impressed
Speaker 1: with them. That was like a That was a little
Speaker 1: bit of a shift for me. That was the sequence
Speaker 1: where I was like, Okay, they're a good team, Like
Speaker 1: good team needs to score here. They've had problems on
Speaker 1: the third down, they've had problems in the ren zone,
Speaker 1: but they found a way and I just you know,
Speaker 1: I think Etan got stopped on the first one. Was
Speaker 1: there past you tried to find Kirk I think in
Speaker 1: the corner maybe one time and then to.
Speaker 4: Threw laid over to Farrell on the play right before this, yep,
Speaker 4: a touchdown I think your point, guy is exactly right.
Speaker 4: I think about their last seven victories. It's seven out
Speaker 4: of eight now. They haven't trailed in five of them.
Speaker 4: They trailed against the Colts in Week six, which, by
Speaker 4: the way, if you don't beat the Colts in that game,
Speaker 4: you're tied for first place. So let's call those two
Speaker 4: game big games right now. And then yesterday against the Colts,
Speaker 4: you trailed and you went and scored the next possession.
Speaker 4: Against this team, you trailed for three minutes and forty
Speaker 4: one seconds, you went score in the next possession. They're
Speaker 4: not perfect, but they take control of games and they
Speaker 4: put their hands around the neck of the games and
Speaker 4: they choke it out. I mean, they are a really
Speaker 4: it's sort of my hot take, so I won't go
Speaker 4: deep into it, but they're doing what they have to do,
Speaker 4: and I don't care about close whatever. They're putting themselves
Speaker 4: in situations at the end of games where they have
Speaker 4: the advantage. They had the percentage advantage, they kept it yesterday.
Speaker 4: That's how you grind through a season and get to
Speaker 4: the postseason.
Speaker 3: Well, you think the Eagles mind winning close games?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: They're ten and one. Yesterday they won by a field goal.
Speaker 1: It over.
Speaker 3: Two before that.
Speaker 2: They beat Kansas City at the end of the game,
Speaker 2: and they beat the Cowboys at the end of the game.
Speaker 2: All close games. So yeah, that's just the way that
Speaker 2: the game goes. They're going to be close. It's the
Speaker 2: National Football League. They are good players on both sides
Speaker 2: of the ball. I mean, maybe not necessarily in a
Speaker 2: couple of cities, but in most of them they are
Speaker 2: really good. So get used to it. It's the dramas
Speaker 2: what makes it great. You'd love to win a game
Speaker 2: by ten and be able to sit back and relax
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, but that isn't what this league
Speaker 2: is these days.
Speaker 1: It's not it wasn't yesterday. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1: Because the Texans certainly out of the way.
Speaker 3: They wanted to be a guy. They wanted to be
Speaker 3: close like that, I know.
Speaker 1: So I will say it was a little bit stressful,
Speaker 1: especially that last Texans possion, because I do want to
Speaker 1: jump ahead to that because we've got to talk about
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and what he was able to do. I
Speaker 1: think he got one and a half sacks because that
Speaker 1: second sack he split with Trayvon, But I don't think
Speaker 1: you win the game. You definitely go to overtime if
Speaker 1: you don't have those two sacks from Josh Allen, because
Speaker 1: the Texans were really driving at that point, and those
Speaker 1: two sacks took them out of field goal range because
Speaker 1: as we saw, the kick went off the crossbar, and
Speaker 1: just Josh just willed himself in that. He won you
Speaker 1: the game. In my opinion.
Speaker 2: He with Laramie Tunsall yesterday, and Laramie Tunsell is a
Speaker 2: really good left tackle.
Speaker 4: John Yeah, he was outstanding, And it's the little moments
Speaker 4: that matter in this league. And the first sack people say, well,
Speaker 4: I didn't matter as much. They got the first down,
Speaker 4: but right then in that last drive, you're playing against
Speaker 4: field position and time, and the first sack pushed the
Speaker 4: Texans back to where, now, all of a sudden, the
Speaker 4: probably weren't gonna get in touchdown on that drive and
Speaker 4: they were gonna need a long field goal rather than
Speaker 4: a short field goal. And then you had a couple
Speaker 4: of plays where they were you know, there was a
Speaker 4: point in that drive where you thought, well, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be an easy field goal in overtime because they had
Speaker 4: gotten to this point was about forty five seconds and
Speaker 4: Josh's pressure and the defensive pressure overall kept that thing
Speaker 4: to a fifty eight yard field goal when it probably
Speaker 4: it felt like it was going to be a forty
Speaker 4: five yard field goal and the defense made it harder.
Speaker 4: And that's the game of inches, this saying, that's what honestly,
Speaker 4: Doug Peterson's really good at putting them in a position
Speaker 4: where they had the edge in those inches situations.
Speaker 2: You know, we've also talked all year long about how
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley doesn't get credit for all of the holding
Speaker 2: penalties and the passes interference penalties that he draws, and
Speaker 2: maybe he should well. Josh Allen drew a holding penalty
Speaker 2: on the first drive of the game from Laramie Tunsel.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, this it's on now. You know, he
Speaker 2: should get credit for that. That forced it into first
Speaker 2: in twenty and they had a punt. So he was
Speaker 2: just an overall dominant figure, I mean dominant figure, and
Speaker 2: when he needed to win the game on the road
Speaker 2: in the division, it's screaming loud and he comes through
Speaker 2: with plays like that and credit Trayvon. I mean that
Speaker 2: was a great pass rush he came to get half
Speaker 2: that sack.
Speaker 1: I know, they probably weren't happy they had to split it,
Speaker 1: but I'll take it.
Speaker 3: By the way, you know how many sacks there Aiden
Speaker 3: Hutchinson has this year?
Speaker 1: How many?
Speaker 3: Five?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: You know how many Tradeon Walker has? Four and a half?
Speaker 1: Four and a half?
Speaker 3: Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Well we're almost there for all the comparison Choppers, and
Speaker 1: then obviously the missfield goal at the end there. I
Speaker 1: was a little surprised that they didn't try to go
Speaker 1: for it, to be honest with you, because I thought
Speaker 1: it was such a long kick, and with the missed
Speaker 1: earlier and kind of the way their kicking game had
Speaker 1: been going, I was surprised they didn't try to try
Speaker 1: to go for it because if I'm the Texans, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of playing with house money at this point for
Speaker 1: the season, so I'd be like, why don't you go
Speaker 1: for it?
Speaker 4: But well, I'm glad they did it. I'm sure their
Speaker 4: analytics or their thoughts was this kid can can't hit that.
Speaker 4: I was actually watching them during pregame and he was
Speaker 4: his leg is strong enough to get that kick there.
Speaker 4: So at that point it was fourth and nine, is
Speaker 4: that right, fourth and twelve? Yeah, So your percentage of
Speaker 4: picking that up. Probably your percentage of hitting fifty eight
Speaker 4: yard field goal are probably higher than picking that up. Again,
Speaker 4: credit to the jack I were so much of late
Speaker 4: game is about creating those situations and those decisions. The Jaguars,
Speaker 4: you know, manned up for lack of a better word,
Speaker 4: and figured out a way to keep that to a
Speaker 4: fifty eight yard field goal. Those are the moments that
Speaker 4: define seasons.
Speaker 2: I it turned out to be the right call to
Speaker 2: kick it, because I mean he was what one rotation
Speaker 2: to the football, probably from making it your one closer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what they're talking about in Houston this morning is third
Speaker 2: down and one and fourth down and one throwing it
Speaker 2: twice right one a Dulton Schultz, and I forget.
Speaker 3: Who the other one was two down the side.
Speaker 2: They missed both of them and gave the ball to
Speaker 2: the Jaguars with nine to fifteen to play at their
Speaker 2: own forty six yard line. Now they're saying, we why
Speaker 2: didn't you try to run the ball?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I told Kay I thought those were the funniest. We
Speaker 4: were sitting next to each other in the press box
Speaker 4: and that was one of the stranger play calling sequences
Speaker 4: I've seen against the Jaguars in a while and maybe
Speaker 4: they had a play they believe it was gonna work
Speaker 4: and be a kill shot, but it should have lost
Speaker 4: the game. Yeah, because you gave the Jaywars a ball
Speaker 4: that's your own forty three. I'm sure Doug and trailor
Speaker 4: anybody would say that's where we have to go in
Speaker 4: the game, and they didn't. But right now in the well,
Speaker 4: always in the league, but right now in the league,
Speaker 4: it's those little moments. You know, if the Jaguars go
Speaker 4: down right there and get a field goal that probably
Speaker 4: feels like a blowout win, they don't get it, and
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, that's how close it is. People
Speaker 4: who want these blowouts, they're just not common. It's not
Speaker 4: set up that way.
Speaker 2: If you're looking for a definition of hard to win,
Speaker 2: right because you always your coaches say how hard it
Speaker 2: is to win in this league. Yesterday, the fourth quarter
Speaker 2: from nine minutes on shows you how hard it is.
Speaker 2: Jaguars got the ball inside Texans territory, couldn't get more
Speaker 2: than two minutes off the clock. Then the Texans score
Speaker 2: a touchdown, force a punt, and then have a chance.
Speaker 3: At a game winning field goal. It's tough to win
Speaker 3: in this league.
Speaker 4: Right, your Zay Jones putting his foot down an inch
Speaker 4: inside from that being a black Yeah, it was an
Speaker 4: inch from being a blowout, and instead it was a It's.
Speaker 2: Almost wrenching, right game right almost you just your heart
Speaker 2: was in your throat as the ball was coming down
Speaker 2: on target and then it hit some polls.
Speaker 3: The other way.
Speaker 1: So close, yet so far? All right, coming up, we're
Speaker 1: gonna do some hot takes after the break. Stay with
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Speaker 3: I want the.
Speaker 6: Teams in our division to be as bad as possible,
Speaker 6: So no, I'm not. That's how I see it. And
Speaker 6: the way they're playing it's exciting. Yes, there's gonna be
Speaker 6: some I'm sure some great matchups down the road. And
Speaker 6: CJ's playing, he's playing lights out, He's doing a great job.
Speaker 6: I need to be a rookie and to play how
Speaker 6: he is I got a lot of respect for him.
Speaker 4: I know that.
Speaker 3: I know how hard it is. You know, I've been
Speaker 3: in that position.
Speaker 6: So he's doing a great job and it's gonna be
Speaker 6: fun for for years to come hopefully.
Speaker 1: Oh Trevor Lawrence. We love him for his honesty, and
Speaker 1: he was certainly honest when he was asked about whether
Speaker 1: he enjoys that rivalry with c. J. Stroud, because of
Speaker 1: course he wants them to be bad. He wants everyone
Speaker 1: else in the division to be bad so the Jigars
Speaker 1: can be good.
Speaker 2: He's the only one you can do anything about that, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, he can go beat him and keep him
Speaker 2: behind him.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: I think he deserves some credit, by the way, for
Speaker 4: you know, I usually don't watch broadcasts and worry about it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but even last night on the NFL Network Highlight Show,
Speaker 4: I watched the first four highlights of c J. Strapp, Yes,
Speaker 4: and Trevor Lawrence throws for three eighty six or whatever
Speaker 4: it was three you know people and out played him,
Speaker 4: but they won and made huge plays in big moments.
Speaker 4: Terror Lawrences, there are some credit for that's the second
Speaker 4: battle between those two. They're one and one. He's two
Speaker 4: games up in the division one for Trevor.
Speaker 3: So here's my hot take.
Speaker 4: You ready sorry about that?
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: Here's my hot take, and that is the Jacks are
Speaker 2: going to see these guys again this year. The way
Speaker 2: that the AFC is rolling out, The Bills.
Speaker 3: Lost a heartbreaker. I'm sure you saw it. It was a
Speaker 3: great game.
Speaker 2: But they're six and six now, and the way that
Speaker 2: their schedule rolls out, they're behind the Texans at this point,
Speaker 2: They're behind the Colts at this point, they have a
Speaker 2: long way to go. I think when you look at
Speaker 2: the Browns right, they've lost their starting quarterback, they're starting
Speaker 2: running back, two starting tackles, and maybe the third, and
Speaker 2: then yesterday maybe the best defensive player in the game,
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, leaves the game in the sling and says
Speaker 2: he doesn't know what he's going to play again. They're
Speaker 2: likely because their offense is struggling in so many ways,
Speaker 2: to start sliding a little bit. Texans have, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, the big game against the Broncos this week.
Speaker 2: If they win this one, I could see them sliding
Speaker 2: into that wild card spot. And they just have this
Speaker 2: keep suspicion because I think that quarterback is really good.
Speaker 3: That we could see the Texans again this year.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. I certainly wouldn't be surprised, especially
Speaker 1: the way things have been playing out and the schedule
Speaker 1: that they have the back half is a lot easier
Speaker 1: than what the Jaguars are gonna be.
Speaker 3: You certain look at the Bengals too, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're coming in here and they struggled offensively yesterday,
Speaker 2: and they're on the schedule. There's just it works with
Speaker 2: the way that it rolls out that the Texans playing well,
Speaker 2: and they have played well, could finding their way into
Speaker 2: the wild card.
Speaker 4: I'd be surprised they play again, But I get your point.
Speaker 4: You may not be wrong with a hot take.
Speaker 3: It's not a.
Speaker 1: Mildly we're going hot today, we're hot takes. John was
Speaker 1: your hot take?
Speaker 4: I think I went with so mature and so good,
Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is the difference between
Speaker 4: this time last year and this team, maybe not this
Speaker 4: time last year, but mid season two and six and
Speaker 4: couldn't get out of their own way in terms of winning. Now.
Speaker 4: At the top of the show, you asked me biggest
Speaker 4: impression the will and the inevitability of the win.
Speaker 1: On of.
Speaker 4: It felt like they were going to figure out a
Speaker 4: way to win that game. They were the better team,
Speaker 4: they out gained them in yards, and yet once they
Speaker 4: got down fourteen thirteen, they didn't blink. And next drive
Speaker 4: they come back, big time players, made big time plays
Speaker 4: and you're up seven and the next drive you're up ten.
Speaker 4: They said, no, no, no, this is gonna be our game.
Speaker 4: This is our time. That's impressive and to me, that's mature.
Speaker 4: Sixteen of the last twenty two games they've won. Seven
Speaker 4: of the last eight games they've won. They stay ahead
Speaker 4: of teams. It's not always pretty, but again I keep
Speaker 4: talking about Doug puts them in situations where their percentages
Speaker 4: of winning the game are better late in the game.
Speaker 4: And that's how you have to play in the NFL.
Speaker 4: And they have become a sure team before our eyes.
Speaker 4: For whatever they're not, they have a knack for winning.
Speaker 4: And what I know, we've said that around the Jaguars
Speaker 4: for years. Brian about the but boy is it refreshing
Speaker 4: to see and cool to see and very interesting to watch.
Speaker 3: The man it is quick thought.
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley had no catchers in the first half and
Speaker 2: on those two drives where they went touchdown field goal
Speaker 2: back to back to grab ten point lead. He had
Speaker 2: four catches and the two point conversion, So that was
Speaker 2: really encouraging to see that the quarterback and his number
Speaker 2: one receiver were on the same page when the game
Speaker 2: was on the line, when it mattered the most.
Speaker 4: Well, and even when they've staggered offensively this season, they've
Speaker 4: had a tendency to do that big game against the
Speaker 4: Bills where they had big plays, second half falcons, big
Speaker 4: plays and second half orand I mean, they come up
Speaker 4: with big plays when they need to. You love it
Speaker 4: to be more often and more consistent. And it was
Speaker 4: funny in the locker room afterward. They felt offensively like
Speaker 4: they move the ball at will. They really felt like
Speaker 4: it could have been a thirty five point game for them. See,
Speaker 4: you keep feeling like they're close, but short of being
Speaker 4: like a juggernaut, I'd like to have the team that
Speaker 4: makes big plays a key times right now, they're that.
Speaker 1: And That's where I'm going with my hot take. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit nitpicky today, happy with the win,
Speaker 1: but I still want more. I talked about that second
Speaker 1: touchdown from them that getting the offensive pen the PI call,
Speaker 1: and then going in getting that touchdown to Calvin Ridley
Speaker 1: finding your best receiver when you needed that touchdown to
Speaker 1: bounce back after the Texans has just gone and scored.
Speaker 1: I want more from that, though. I want them to
Speaker 1: score before the Texans get the ball back, so that
Speaker 1: the game is out of reach, so we don't need
Speaker 1: to Josh Allen massive sacks to set up that field goal.
Speaker 1: I want them to close things out and they can,
Speaker 1: and they're so close to doing it, whether it's you know,
Speaker 1: getting that touchdown right before they have to take them
Speaker 1: out right then or later on when I was saying
Speaker 1: when they could have got that touchdown so that the
Speaker 1: Texans got the ball back, it wasn't as close as
Speaker 1: it was. They're right there and I know they can
Speaker 1: do it, and that's why I am so excited to
Speaker 1: see how they evolve in the last couple of games.
Speaker 1: And these are the games so we've had circled down
Speaker 1: the calendar and they take on the Ravens the Bengals.
Speaker 1: I know they don't have Bro, but it's still going
Speaker 1: to be a huge game. And I'm just excited because
Speaker 1: I feel like they're right there right there.
Speaker 2: Third and two, right, I mean, you've got to be
Speaker 2: able to convert on third down or two, and that's
Speaker 2: what they have struggled at. It's the worst conversion percentage
Speaker 2: they have and that's the thing that has held the back.
Speaker 2: By the way, I got to give them credit the
Speaker 2: we're very good and third down yesterday. But if they
Speaker 2: can convert on third and two on the coal line,
Speaker 2: it's twenty to seven and a half.
Speaker 3: It was first to goal. But you get my point.
Speaker 2: Be able to run get that bawl two yards up
Speaker 2: the field when you want two yards not six two.
Speaker 3: And you have a completely different ballgame.
Speaker 2: This is a young team and the coach keeps harping
Speaker 2: on it, so I will too.
Speaker 3: They haven't done anything yet.
Speaker 2: That's the growth that we could see over the final
Speaker 2: six weeks that might make all the difference between hosting
Speaker 2: a playoff game and hosting two playoff games.
Speaker 1: I like the sounds of that. Here's hoping all right.
Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, we'll talk a little bit
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Speaker 5: I mean, very impressed for a rookie quarterback to come
Speaker 5: in and you know, perform at this level. The way
Speaker 5: he's thrown the ball, I just really admire his poise.
Speaker 5: Quite frankly, He's he's putting the ball where he wants
Speaker 5: to put it, meaning it's very accurate throws.
Speaker 3: You know, he's got.
Speaker 5: The ability to to escape and move and still keep
Speaker 5: his eyes down the field. I think that's a that's
Speaker 5: a unique trait for a young quarterback to be able
Speaker 5: to do. You know, and they're shooting the ball down
Speaker 5: the field. You know, they're making making big plays down
Speaker 5: the field. And it's just what you see is it's
Speaker 5: gaining it's gaining confidence each week in him and his team.
Speaker 5: You know, that's a that's a reflection of coach, you know,
Speaker 5: Ryan Demko, and just been really impressed with him.
Speaker 1: Back here in Jags Am Big went over the Texans
Speaker 1: yesterday a good battle between Trevor Lawrence and c. J. Stroud.
Speaker 1: But now we get to turn to Monday Night Football
Speaker 1: and they haven't had that. We haven't had that around
Speaker 1: here in a while.
Speaker 2: Right twenty and eleven December two thousand and eleven. It
Speaker 2: was the first game after Shad was announced as the
Speaker 2: prospective owner, and it was the first game after Wayne
Speaker 2: we we fired Jack del Rio. So it was Mel
Speaker 2: Tucker's first game as the interim coach, and in came
Speaker 2: the then San Diego Chargers and walloped him, walloped him
Speaker 2: thirty eight to fourteen. However, the Jaguars went one to
Speaker 2: one on Monday Night Football that year because they beat
Speaker 2: the Ravens in a four field goal win twelve to
Speaker 2: seven on Monday Night Football back in late September early October.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one of the more improbable Jaguars victories
Speaker 4: of the last fifty. I mean, they played great in
Speaker 4: that game, great atmosphere, and I expect an unbelievable atmosphere
Speaker 4: on Monday. It's gonna be cool.
Speaker 2: They're eight and seven all time in fifteen Monday Night
Speaker 2: Football appearances, but they haven't been on Monday Night Football
Speaker 2: in twelve years. So that's changing, right, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: obviously changing this Monday. But I'm telling you the way
Speaker 2: that the national media in the last twelve hours have
Speaker 2: gravitated towards this CJ. Stroud Trevor Lawrence matchup, this is
Speaker 2: going to be one of those games that the network say,
Speaker 2: I want that one for Thursday, and I want that
Speaker 2: one for Monday Night. I want that a primetime game.
Speaker 2: So buckle up, you're gonna see the Jags in a
Speaker 2: primetime schedule down. I know you're gonna hate it. That's
Speaker 2: gonna be awesome.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be a lot of one o'clock kickoffs,
Speaker 3: but the Jags are gonna be a team. They're on
Speaker 3: Monday Night Football primetime.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it, I'm sure as this week goes on,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a great environment. I'm very excited
Speaker 1: that Monday Night football is coming back to Jacksonville, so
Speaker 1: I'm sure all the fans are. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: good one against the Bengals. But until Wednesday, we'll see
Speaker 1: you back here on Jags Am.