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Speaker 1: You think about that. Do you think about that day?

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Speaker 1: What could have been? What what could you have done differently?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Hell yeah. But I ain't even want to really

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Speaker 2: some shit like some drink and shit, some looking and shit,

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Speaker 2: just going over there to kick it with him type shit.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I be thinking about that. But the main

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Speaker 2: thing I think about is like, like I heard his

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Speaker 2: he pick her up from work every day, right, And

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Speaker 2: I just used to think, like, damn, I wish you

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Speaker 2: he would have just win and got his grandma instead

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't have got his grandma. You wouldn't have been

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Speaker 2: Facts. Yeah, O, god, you've.

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Speaker 1: Seen a lot of tragedy. Your uncle ended up getting killed.

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Speaker 2: You that wasn't my real uncle. But remember I told

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Speaker 2: you like how we like made like, yeah, he got

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Speaker 2: killed when I was in third grade. I remember I was,

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Speaker 2: I was I think I was sleep, but I was

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Speaker 2: so bad I probably was up, but I remember it

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Speaker 2: was a school night, and I remember just hearing like.

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Speaker 2: And I remember jumping up, and I remember jumping up

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Speaker 2: was on and they was like I think it was

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Speaker 2: five of them they got killed that night, like four

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Speaker 2: or five, It might have been six. It was like

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Speaker 2: the dudes came. They killed big Boy, which was like

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Speaker 2: my uncle, they killed Swiss shot and like another one

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Speaker 2: of their partners, and like two maintenance men. And then

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Speaker 2: I remember like my mama telling me or it was

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Speaker 2: either my mama or my stepdad. It was like yeah,

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Speaker 2: they kept big boy type shit. But then when I

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Speaker 2: your head. I was like he robbed the wrong person

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Speaker 2: because I remember, like, ah, that week he had went

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Speaker 2: and bought one of them new Tahos, the Z seventy

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Speaker 2: two trucks.

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Speaker 1: What does he seventy one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the two dogs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know exactly what you talking about. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had bought one of them. He had. I

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Speaker 2: remember walking down there because like when I was young,

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Speaker 2: And I used to like wrap might do a little

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Speaker 2: I remember I seeing like a big ass bag of weed,

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Speaker 2: probably like five pounds or some shit. Wow, there's bags

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Speaker 2: He used to have a box Chevy on twenty threes

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Speaker 2: Put that ship up? But I remember like, I ain't

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Speaker 2: much WHI So I feel like that's what happened. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I feel like that's what happened. Though.

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Speaker 2: Hit somebody, yeah, the wrong nigga, and they came back

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Speaker 2: because they chased them. They he was in like it

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Speaker 2: was some apartments connected to the apartments and it was

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Speaker 1: So he was running. He saw him coming in.

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Speaker 2: my cousins Rock Kim stayed and he ended up dying

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Speaker 1: Right, But your twenty first birthday, that wasn't the first

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Speaker 1: time you had gotten shot? Was it was that the

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Speaker 2: No, that was the second time. The first time was

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Speaker 2: like on some like bullshit though, it was just like

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Speaker 1: Right yeah, whether th what accident or was someone intentionally

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, twenty first birthday, you lose your partner, you

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Speaker 1: almost lose your life. You watch you've gotten graves before,

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, I think like, yeah, after I got shot,

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Speaker 2: because you got a kid, you gotta thinking now you

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Speaker 2: I remember, I just kept mumbling like I can't go

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Speaker 1: Did you ever lose consciousness.

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Speaker 2: M hmm, not from what I remember.

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Speaker 1: Right, You've leave lost siblings, Yeah, you mentioned that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's your Your father's had a son that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in London, in my grandma neighborhood. That's why I

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Speaker 1: How does one that have experienced death to so much?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how I do it

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I read when you said after your brother's death,

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Speaker 2: Like like growing up, like I ain't really we ain't

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Speaker 2: So it was like me saying that was like, damn,

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Speaker 2: Was like my mama told him, like, no, my my mama, baby,

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Speaker 2: But shit, West Indians just like that. Yeah right, okay,

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Speaker 2: So I remember we got home. I remember them arguing

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Speaker 1: You seeking revenge? Like?

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Speaker 2: What can stop you from wanting to do that? You

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Speaker 1: When did you decide that rap was gonna be your

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Speaker 1: I don't know if fifty of the role model of yours.

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Speaker 1: I think I read somewhere where you said three six Mafia.

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Speaker 1: So when did you decide it says I'm gonna give

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Speaker 2: Like after I got shot. Yeah, that's when I really

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, you meet metro Booming? Yeah, and so that

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Speaker 2: I met metro Booming through Key. It's a Atlanta rapping

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Speaker 1: Nobody has real names. Everybody got mad man kids.

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Speaker 2: I'm Skinny, Oh god right, god damn that used. He

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Speaker 1: So you Metro up he gave you so did he know?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. He ain't know me, right, But

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Speaker 1: It took off from there. Yeah, did did you think

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Speaker 2: But really, Sonny, Sonny, my songs were Sonny blew up

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Speaker 2: like we ain't have nobody but like, well future back then,

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Speaker 1: Future says, if young Metro don't trust you, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: what is it about Atlanta you? Future? Tip Luda, I

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Speaker 1: I think little baby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Atlanta is just like a player city.

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Speaker 2: Like it's just player like we just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We just know how to talk, we know how to walk,

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Speaker 1: I had tea out on the podcast. Tia said, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was still trying to sign me though, Tia

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Speaker 2: It ain't even gonna be worth the men in the

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Speaker 1: So we actually saved you from yourself.

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Speaker 2: Facts. Yeah, I look up the t I because t

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Speaker 2: I one of them niggas. He rich as a motherfucker,

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Speaker 2: but he tight his heir. That's how he keep that

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Speaker 1: Had a planning album before you signed your first deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: Now you you you're in a very favorable situation because

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Speaker 1: to do a bad deal because you already got a

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Speaker 1: platinum album. It's not like a situation you're looking to

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Speaker 2: Was it platinum up? Or was it gold?

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Speaker 1: Go?

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Speaker 2: I had plan platinum singles, yeah, but I had a

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Speaker 2: gold album right Yeah? But you straight yeah for sure?

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Speaker 1: So it kept So that kept you out of a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was like it was like our type

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Speaker 2: like little labels and shit, right, But some just used

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Speaker 2: no thirty thousand, don't take no fitty things, right, Like

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Speaker 1: You end up doing a seventy thirty split, right yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah with Epic, right yeah, that was my first deal.

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Speaker 2: It was like seventy thirty, but like they had like

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Speaker 1: For what's your take on streaming? I hear Snoop Doggs say, man,

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00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: look here, man, I'm streaming you stream a billion, and man,

438
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Speaker 1: you ain't really making no money. What's your what's your

439
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: what's your what's your thoughts on streaming?

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Speaker 2: I think it all depends on how your deal structure,

441
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 2: because it's some money in streaming money streaming. It's just

442
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 2: about like how your deal structure and how much you

443
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Speaker 2: stream type shit. Well, it seemed to me we need

444
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Speaker 2: be some money in it because my label be giving

445
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: me some money.

446
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: Okay, I was about to say, but the way you talk,

447
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: you talking like you gotta structure deal that you be getting.

448
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: They gotta be making money because that giving me money. Right,

449
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: So it's some money in that shit, some real money

450
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: in it.

451
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you about your catalog. Future sold his catalog.

452
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: I think he sold at sixty five seventy five million.

453
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: Is that something you'd be interested in at some point?

454
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably laid on down the line for sure. Yeah.

455
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: I only got a couple of albums right now.

456
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,719
Speaker 1: Though, Right, but you're gonna stop it on.

457
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: It depends how much my hustle, how I apply my hustle, right,

458
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 2: because shit, I might fuck around and invest in something

459
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Speaker 2: and become a billionaire and be able to pass my

460
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: catalog down to my kids. Might not even have to

461
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Speaker 2: sell my catalog.

462
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Speaker 1: Right, I'm looking at the Exale Freshman Class, little easy Berg, YACHTI,

463
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Speaker 1: Kodak Denzel Current, Your Herbo Davides, little Dick and Andison

464
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Speaker 1: pack designer, and you well, y'all here licked that year.

465
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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, Yeah y'all hed a link. Yeah for

466
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Speaker 2: sure it was stars on that cover.

467
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Speaker 1: Do you do you do you ever sit back in

468
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Speaker 1: like man, considering what your story of how coming to

469
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Speaker 1: Atlanta from London or the East Side, your upbringing. There's

470
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Speaker 1: a lot of things that could have happened that this

471
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Speaker 1: didn't happen. Do you ever sit back and like, damn,

472
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Speaker 1: I'm savage? All right?

473
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Sometimes yeah, I'd be like I still gotta

474
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Speaker 2: keep going on.

475
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Speaker 1: You still trying to grind.

476
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that I will be like appreciative that I do

477
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,760
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478
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Speaker 2: could have went this way or this way type shit.

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Speaker 1: price guaranteed. Your new project, American Dream is projected to

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Speaker 1: have your number one album, first album in six years.

499
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: How much have you grown since your first album?

500
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: I think my sounds just changed, like my beat selection,

501
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: like just talking about deeper things, and just like I

502
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: feel like I'm just growing up, Like I'm a grown

503
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: up now, right, shit, I was like a young nigga

504
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: when I first came out. I was just saying anything

505
00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: type shit right.

506
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: Samples on the album, how difficult was it? How difficult

507
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: was it to clear the samples for some of the

508
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: music that you.

509
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: Use jam do that my am r. She'd be handling,

510
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: she'd be on on top of all that shit, so

511
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: she ain't really come back to me like nothing was

512
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: too hard clear this time. But it do get hard.

513
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes it gets hard because they want to charge more

514
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: than what you think it's worth, or they just don't

515
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: want you to sample it.

516
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: Some people just don't want you to sample that shit, right,

517
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: Like one of my songs, like they cleared it for

518
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: the album, but then when it was time for me

519
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: to do like commercials or like TV performances, they wouldn't

520
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: clear it. So it was like, damn, I should have

521
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: just never cleared it for the album in the first place,

522
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: because now they sound big and you can't sing it.

523
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: I can't really do nothing right everything that I want

524
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: to do with it.

525
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: So why would they let you do it for the

526
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: album but not let you do it commercially?

527
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: I don't know.

528
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: Man. Do you ever look and see like, okay, American

529
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: Dreams supposed to drop and somebody else, like you know what,

530
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: like three of the artists might be dropping that week.

531
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: Would you ever move yours up or push yours back?

532
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: Or you're like, hey, make the best man win.

533
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: And depends on who's dropping. Keep it all the way real.

534
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: If it's somebody too big, I'm gonna get up out

535
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: their way, right, But I'm gonna normally know that before

536
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 2: I even right drop, like I'm gonna know, like you know,

537
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: all the labels have like a calendar of what be

538
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: coming out for the most part, right, But yeah, I

539
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: get about somebody way. But people get up out my

540
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: way too though they should. Yeah, I'm looking at uh this,

541
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: Are you the best rapper of that twenty sixteenth class?

542
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: I feel like I am right, but I feel like

543
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: everybody in that class shul feel like that is too right.

544
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: But hell yeah, I feel like I am for sure.

545
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: Dark Days song of the album you would say your

546
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: gun will love you back and the block won't hug you.

547
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: Back that song. Yeah, I really was like in the

548
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: booflight talking like to like a younger me, a young

549
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: man in that same situation type shit. Like I was

550
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: just like telling him like, yeah, this ship might look cool,

551
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: but in reality, like this is the truth, Like this

552
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: is what it really is, right, like this the real

553
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: type shit. I was just like talking to him in

554
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: that way like yeah, you you could say you love

555
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: that block, but they don't love you. It ain't gonna

556
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: hug you back. You can stay like hug the block.

557
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: That's like posting on the block all night. It ain't

558
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: gonna hug you back. You could love your gun, but

559
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: your gun ain't never gonna love you back. Your friends

560
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: after your candlelight, dang, ain't nobody gonna come check on

561
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: your mama like that. That ain't gonna give her nothing. Wow,

562
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: Like you feel me like that's just how shit go.

563
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: You told kids to stay in school, talked about seeing

564
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: friends take their last breath, talked about crying at night

565
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: and mama's crying, talked about kids growing up with our

566
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: fathers said, even though you even thought about suicide, tell

567
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: the story that don't want people to live. So what

568
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: is it about that lifestyle that people find so not people,

569
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: but young men, especially a lot of young men of color,

570
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 1: find so fascinating?

571
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: When you young, you damn there get rewarded for dumb shit,

572
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: right like when you're young, But it ain't like a

573
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: real reward, but it's like you get more attention. I

574
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: say that like like when we be growing up, like

575
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: we don't be getting a lot of attention type shit,

576
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: Like I mean our daddy, ain't mama always busy type shit.

577
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: So like when you do bad shit, nobody told you,

578
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: like you get a counselor. That was like something cool

579
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: in school, Like if you had a counselor, like other

580
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: kids looked at you like like you was something type shit.

581
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: So it's like it just build up and build up

582
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: and build up type shit. And you just used to

583
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: get rewarded for dumb shit or not dumb shit, but

584
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: like bad shit right that it's just carry on and

585
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: then you just before you know it, you're a grown

586
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: man and you just stuck in this ship type shit.

587
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: But you're one of the one that made it. You

588
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: got an opportunity to be a grown man who got

589
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: an opportunity to look back and says, look made some mistakes.

590
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: Don't learn, don't make the mistakes that I made. Yeah,

591
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: you wanted a few.

592
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, bless I know a lot of people that didn't.

593
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: On this album, Young Thug, Young Thug or Thug recorded

594
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: a pre recorded you still talk to Thug?

595
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah not like that though, but right, we weren't talk.

596
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: The twenty one American Dream. You got a story a

597
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: movie coming out that was a parody. Okay, do you

598
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: think your story, you think you your story is good

599
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: enough to be a movie or documentary. You got a

600
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: very interesting story, Savage.

601
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: You think you think so?

602
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: I do, because it's the American dream. I mean, think

603
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: about how many people you hear them about this all

604
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: the time, people migrating to America. And you're an American

605
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: ex success story, not a whole lot of money, very

606
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: tough upbringing, single parent. I mean, you had love, and

607
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: you could have gone down this path, and you went

608
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: down this path for a period of time, but somehow

609
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: you come back down the straight and narrow and here

610
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: we are American love success stories. Why nothing?

611
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I feel like it could be one day.

612
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: They hate on it now though, why they go hate

613
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: on it because they're gonna be like, what the fuck?

614
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: Twenty one Savage deserve a story for a movie by him?

615
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: Right?

616
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: What he did?

617
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: Right?

618
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: You know how they do?

619
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: You know what? They hate on your relationship with Drake?

620
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: Why people got, why people got with Drake? What Drake

621
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: do to anybody?

622
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

623
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: So because you know you gonna get blowback if you

624
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: cool with Drake. They hate on him, they gonna hit

625
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: on you too.

626
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I fuck with Drake though, Drake

627
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: my boy.

628
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you shure? I mean what's not what's not like

629
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: about the bad? I mean hell everything he touched her? Platinum,

630
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: damn gold.

631
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: Platinum, God, oh god. Yeah.

632
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: Do you think people are envious of your relationship because

633
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: obviously it's not like he I don't I wouldn't say that.

634
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: He doesn't mess with a whole lot of people. But

635
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: he seemed to have it very You and he seem

636
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: to have a very special relationship, and sometimes people get

637
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: envious of that. They want what you have, what.

638
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: You feel like a man is if he's jealous of

639
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: how cool two other men are? What you what you think?

640
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: What you think? That is what you would look at

641
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: like that, Like if somebody said I don't like how

642
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: Steve and they fuck how that will make you feel

643
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: what you're look.

644
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: At that like that's some hate nass you know what? Right?

645
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: Because it is. But what you have to understand, and

646
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm learning this Savage, is that as you rise, the

647
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: plaws are gonna come be. So it is the hating

648
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: and the criticism. So if you're not willing to accept

649
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: the plaus and the elagulation that comes along with the rise,

650
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: you might as well get off because the hate and

651
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: the criticism coming.

652
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And that's a part of it, and.

653
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: You just have to accept that. And and that can't

654
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: the the the hate and the criticism, it can't drown

655
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: out the applause.

656
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: And the adulation, right, what adulation means?

657
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: Applause, the praise, the Grammys, the man Savage you hear

658
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: Savage album? Man if Savage? Man, I don't for if

659
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: what that dou like that? Man?

660
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: He ain't like that?

661
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's you know that's coming. Yeah, but

662
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: see everybody, everybody see as long as you like here

663
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: and everybody's here with you, we cool, Savage. But now

664
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: the hold on that. Don't you go here because if

665
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: I can't go here with you, I'm gonna start hating

666
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: on you. Now if you get here, now, I gotta

667
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: say some stuff that might not even be true, right

668
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: because I don't want people to like you more than

669
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: they like me.

670
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: I ain't never been like that, though, I know you not,

671
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 2: but are a lot of people that are. Yeah, I wonder why, though,

672
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 2: Like what make you be like that? Like I always

673
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: look at it like shit, that's just just like me

674
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: hating on Drake.

675
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to get there, right, I.

676
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: Look at it like inspiration, Like shit, I'm working.

677
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: That's see. That's how I look at it. I look

678
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: at it anybody that's done something, what has been done once? Hell,

679
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: it can be done again. So if Drake their hell,

680
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: why can't I get there? See? That's how I looked

681
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: at it. When I saw Steven A and I see

682
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: guys that Charles Markling things like that, I was like,

683
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm not hating on them. I was like, I can

684
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: do that. Let me see, let me get on my grind. Yeah,

685
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: but that's not how we are. We're We're not wired

686
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: like that, right, And it's sad. The touring aspect, what

687
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: do you what do you like? What do you like

688
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: most about touring? And touring with Drake? The money, lots

689
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: of it come with Drake Haw.

690
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: That ship just comperiod to reach a certain level. Because ship,

691
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: Drake ain't gonna pay you none that you ain't worth right,

692
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 2: Ain't like he's just paying you because you're his friend.

693
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: Hell no, they paying you your feet.

694
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: Man. It makes me get thinking I should have started

695
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: rapping instead of playing foot. Then I got you what hell?

696
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: What a fifty five year o' gonna wrap.

697
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: About ship, rap about goddamn everything. Everything you're going through.

698
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: It's some fifty five year olds that goddamn can relate.

699
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: It's a lot Google how many fifty five year old

700
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: men it is in the world.

701
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: That's a bunch of them all. Right, then, Nah, you

702
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: ain't for to get me out there, help.

703
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: Me at that, get some streaming money and then tell

704
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: me of streaming pay a night.

705
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: What's it like touring outside the country.

706
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: It's different because they got It's like they love, they

707
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 2: love hard.

708
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: They might. I don't even speak English, but they can

709
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: sing every word that you be singing.

710
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that shit crazy. I ain't never got love like

711
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: that before.

712
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: Really I have.

713
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: I have. But I think it's just different because they

714
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: don't see you as often. They appreciate you more, right

715
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 2: type shit.

716
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you love so you love going you love

717
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like you you don't love touring

718
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: the States, but you love going out of the country

719
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: because they give you love.

720
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: Like, But I think it might be different from me

721
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: because remember I couldn't travel for so long, Like my

722
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: first time ever performing out the country was a couple

723
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: months ago.

724
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: Right, because you couldn't leave because of situation.

725
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: Right, So I think it was like anticipated for me

726
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: a lot, right, but shit, every soul showed out. They

727
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: were showing love like a motherfucker, like screaming every song,

728
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: like songs that I wasn't even expecting them to know.

729
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: They know every word, every word. Yeah, that shit was great.

730
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, would you ever experiment with

731
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: your sound like Drake did? Yeah?

732
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: Right now? Once I get to Drake level, you got

733
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: you gotta be big as hell to experiment. You could

734
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: experiment and that ship in your career, right, but so

735
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: you gotta have like the leverage to do that, right

736
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: type shit.

737
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: But right now you love you love the savage sound.

738
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: Right now, that's working, right now, it's booming. You sold

739
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: out your album number one, you go platinum.

740
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: I'm just slowly like evolving like type shit, like piece

741
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: by piece, like I ain't finna just jump out the

742
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: window and just make no whole different shit, right, But

743
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: I give you like little bits and pieces of it

744
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: as I GOE.

745
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: You like R and B? Would you ever do an

746
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: R and B album.

747
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: With me singing? Yeah? Yeah, I had to go get

748
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: a vocal coach. I love R and B though I

749
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: listen to that shit more than anything. I don't even

750
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: listen to rap like that.

751
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: Okay, you like R and B. Give me your Mount

752
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,479
Speaker 1: Rushmore R and B artist, if you you got, you got,

753
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: give me your top five R and B artists.

754
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: Can they just artists or group? Can it be either?

755
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: Or it could be either if you'll listen.

756
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 2: All right, Mount Rushmore ain't in order needed, no, no.

757
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: No no, Now my Rushmore is only four, but I'm

758
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: gonna make it easier. You're gonna let you get five.

759
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you get five, all right, Usher, Okay,

760
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: I love s w U, Okay.

761
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: Beyonce, Okay, the boy who in jail, Kelly and five

762
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: tough Man number five tough. I ain't gonna lie. I

763
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: love Monica Monica. But then like you got married j Black, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

764
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: you got God damn because the Isley Brothers got some ship.

765
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: There's so many other ones but them probably who I

766
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: listened to the most. What your mount works?

767
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: Marby R and B? Well, Usher, that definitely got to

768
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: be on there. Usher for me, I would say Usher,

769
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: Mary j.

770
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: Uh, James Brown.

771
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: I would probably know that's so Marvin Gaye James Brown.

772
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I want to put him in R

773
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: and B.

774
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't either know, probably Marvin Gaye. I guess

775
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: loop for me. I love Luther, but you can't go

776
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: wrong with Kenny Lattimore either.

777
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: I don't know Kenny Latimer.

778
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he a little bit for your time. Yeah yeah,

779
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: but you know, but you know, but you know Luther

780
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: right Yeah?

781
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for sure.

782
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: So would you like Let's just say you want to

783
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: do an R and B album? Who who is it?

784
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: And you can't pick Beyonce. I can't because I know

785
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna because because you know you're gonna pick me

786
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: on you can't pick me.

787
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: Who who jumping on the track with you? There's one person? Yeah,

788
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 2: for the whole album you have no you know what.

789
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you do. Feat you can have, you

790
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: can have as many as you won't. I'm I'm gonna

791
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: let you have. I'll let you have Beyonce. Beyonce, you

792
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna do a track, Beyonce, go do a track, Beyonce,

793
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: gonna do another track? That's too I'm gonna just get

794
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: this from Beyonce. Sama Walker Okay, that girl she hard

795
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: as a motherfucker.

796
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: Coco Jones.

797
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: Her Okay, I like her.

798
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get a front wherever he at. We're

799
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 2: gonna go get a funt. We're gonna get the boy Joe. Yeah, okay,

800
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna see what Joe at.

801
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: Well, you're able to put if you go get you

802
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: want to. I can't seeing Jojo. You're gonna putting them

803
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: on your R and B.

804
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: They be stinging still, they still say, yeah, Casey and Jojo.

805
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get jagged.

806
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: Edged bad you go a wave far Badna.

807
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 2: Bring them back together. I'm gonna go get sw v

808
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: okay to come back out. I love cut Close. If

809
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 2: they still somewhere saying I get cut Close, I get

810
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: SAMO two to come back.

811
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: Okay.

812
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah see, I'm gonna have our type of shit on

813
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: my shit right. I probably make the hardest collaboration on

814
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: the NB album of our time. If I could just

815
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: get autumn artists right on. God, Yeah, it's gonna call

816
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 2: you a lot though. Ships all right, we're gonna scream.

817
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: How did it feel to help j Cob when it's

818
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: with Grammy.

819
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: I think we helped each other. I don't think I

820
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: just helped him. I think we helped each other. It

821
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: felt good. Shit that was my first Grammy too. Ain't

822
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: like I just had ten Grammys and I just gave

823
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: him a We won that motherfucker. At the same time,

824
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have got it without him.

825
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: Right, So what so what was that? What was that feeling? Like,

826
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: You're sitting in there. Okay, you get nominated. Obviously, it's

827
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: a huge accomplishment just to get nominated. Everybody said, oh,

828
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, I don't even care if I win, as

829
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: long as I'm nominated. Bull dyve you nominated? You want

830
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: to win? Okay? So you sitting there and the Grammy

831
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: four goes to and they called j Coley twenty one

832
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: sav what goes through your man?

833
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 2: I was sad that day because that was the day

834
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: Kobe died. Oh so I was kind of sad that day.

835
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: And then like they my award wasn't announced in the Grammys.

836
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: I knew I wanted before we got there. At that climatic,

837
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: it was like one of them like pre announced. Yeah

838
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: yeah you want to hear you want to? Hey, I

839
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: want to? I would I want to get up here?

840
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, God, but yeah, that was

841
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: the day Kobe died. Like good or sweet?

842
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: So would you do a collab? With Jacob.

843
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

844
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: It seemed like you're like, look, you wanted these you

845
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: one of these artists that hey, you collab off, said

846
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: j Cole Drake. You don't seem to have no beef

847
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: with none of.

848
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: The artists because I feel like, I feel like life

849
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: is bigger than like that type shit. I feel like

850
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: we are blessed to be in these predicaments and positions

851
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: and shit, because I feel like we'll be doing the

852
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 2: people of injustice by not giving them that right type shit.

853
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: Like back in the day, you don't remember like everybody

854
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: used to be in everybody video. It was more like

855
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: unity like because we was all coming from we were spoiled.

856
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 2: Now artists today is spoiled because of how far music

857
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: has went. Back in the day, it was like it

858
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: was harder to get on right, so they was more appreciative.

859
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: By the time they got they start getting they shit together,

860
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, So they all stuck together

861
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: a little more.

862
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: Yo, we had that.

863
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: That's why I feel like beefs were so big back

864
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 2: then because it was like more rare. Now like everybody got.

865
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: Everybody beefing so type shit, but they really beefing or

866
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: they try to. They're trying to get some publicity.

867
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 2: It be half and half.

868
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I'm gonna put you on. I got a

869
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: tough way for you right now. Give me your top

870
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: five Atlanta rappers.

871
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: Without me, Without you, I'm gonna go future Okay, t

872
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: I okay, Gucci Outcast and Young Thug Okay.

873
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Luda Jeez y'all made my top five, but

874
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: that's damn migos Thu Yady out Yeah, baby, I'm sorry.

875
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: See, you can't do no Atlanta top five.

876
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: You can.

877
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: You gotta do Atlanta Top twenty. No, nope, we got

878
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 2: too many greats.

879
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: Nah, because I have to let you put everybody up

880
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: in there. So when they see that, I.

881
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: Like my five. Them nigga ain't gonna put me in

882
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 2: they top five anyway. Hell Nah, they gonna say current

883
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: current all time.

884
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: So what what what type of influence the Gucci have

885
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: on you? You say you saw Gucci at Miss Wingers very

886
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: very early on.

887
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it real, like growing up on the

888
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: East Side, Bro, Gucci made me hate Young Jeezy as.

889
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: A child, right beat the head, go to the head.

890
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I used to really be like man, fuck

891
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 2: Jesus from the east Side nigga type ship. O God

892
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: Gucci had a big impact, like Butch was the one

893
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: like and he was like he put that ship on

894
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: the map, like let it be know, like the east

895
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: Side type ship.

896
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: Are you big in the gifts? Do you buy other

897
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: other I saw Drake uh bought thug Ferrari. Are you

898
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: bigging to buy other artists gifts that jump on your

899
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: album him and it blow it up?

900
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: Yeah? We be buying about drank some ship. He bought

901
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: me some ship about thug ship. He bought me ship

902
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: like people that I fucked with in Metro. I just

903
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 2: don't do ship for the internet, so.

904
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: Like you do stuff and don't nobody know about it.

905
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but a nigga might have a chain on that

906
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 2: I bought him. You will never know because I ain't

907
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 2: finna like be like bro like type ship.

908
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: Were you old enough to remember free Nick Yeah.

909
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: Like that women, I don't remember being there. I just

910
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: remember traffic like I can't go nowhere, Nope type ship?

911
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: Who was real nice though.

912
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: But you gotta come to my free You've been you know,

913
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: I been throwing freaknak too.

914
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: You three hold on what time?

915
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 2: About what going on on my birthday?

916
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: When when is this October?

917
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 2: Man?

918
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: Man?

919
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: We had like how many people was out there? Like

920
00:47:54,400 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: seven thousand people? Yeah, all downtown to the underground. We

921
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: had we had Uncle Luke performed.

922
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: What Yeah, I remember them day. You see, after you

923
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: get fifty five, you just get on up by the way,

924
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: you know, I have my time my early twenties. Its

925
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: bout late twenties, early thirties, I had my time. I

926
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: have my time with freaking you missed you. It was

927
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: real nice act man, Let me stop, let me stop.

928
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: It was all right, it was all right. Nah uh,

929
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: everybody be talking about you know, teeth, what's going on?

930
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: I mean, you spent a lot, you put spend good.

931
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean now you you you you savage. You're gonna

932
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: be in front of the camera, you rapping. You gotta

933
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: have your grill, right.

934
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure?

935
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 1: How many bad as you put in there, like eighty five.

936
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: See I had to go get him right.

937
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: You get it right? Yeah you're supposed to though.

938
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Not the composite ship.

939
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: Nah No, that's hey, I know you got that porcelain.

940
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: Yes, grills, no grills.

941
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: I want to get to this dating publicly, would you

942
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: ever date publicly again.

943
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: M hmm, yeah, you would, would you?

944
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: No?

945
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: Why?

946
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: Because I believe if you date publicly, you have to

947
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: break up publicly and you have to deal with your

948
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: issue publicly. If you date privately, you can break up

949
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: privately and deal with any issues you may have privately.

950
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: Damn, I never thought about it. You just taught me something.

951
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: That's just me. I mean, to each his own. I

952
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: mean some people like that. I don't. My relationship is

953
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: not for public consumption because sometimes I think people start

954
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: to try to live and try to play out their

955
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: relationship for the public and do things. Oh you see

956
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: what they did they on this vacation. Now, if I

957
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: go on vacation, it's just me and you ain't trying

958
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: to do anything for the grammar the net, right, Yeah.

959
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean if if I don't all that, like when

960
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: you go out to eat and you women got to

961
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: take pictures, let me take a picture. Come home, man,

962
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: stop it.

963
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

964
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: God, So that's that's where I'm at with that. But

965
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: that's the eat his own.

966
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

967
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: But you but you cool, we have men. If you

968
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: your lady says okay, you know savage, I bought Hey,

969
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: you might.

970
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: Just change my mind. God, you might just change my

971
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: mind because you got to break up publicly. But what

972
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: if you never break up? Have you ever been in

973
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: a relationship that you felt like I don't think we

974
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: ever gonna break up.

975
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: Hell, all the relationship that you be in, you be

976
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: thinking that in the time. I don't think anybody getting

977
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: no relationship thinking like this, you're gonna end them all?

978
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: You think you go to last forever. But I just

979
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: think the thing is that sometimes you know, man, that

980
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: internet man, then people start then people start surmising what's

981
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: going on? Oh he he don't love her like that,

982
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: she don't love him. She for the street, Heat for

983
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: the street, and it started to play. I mean, you

984
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: get innundated with that savage man, you hit that enough

985
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: and it.

986
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 2: Just yeah, it'll tuck a toll on it.

987
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: It does. It does your tattoos. How old were you

988
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: got your first tattoo?

989
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: Thirteen fourteen? I had got my mama name though, so

990
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: she come.

991
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: So you cool with that? So how old when you

992
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: first got your face tap? Your first face tap? How

993
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: old were you?

994
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: Sixteen?

995
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: She didn't like that.

996
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: Same teen, yeah, she ain't like it. Seventeen sementeen, Yeah.

997
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: So what was it?

998
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: The cross was it was twenty one okay, and then

999
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 2: that next year my big brother Larry, that was like

1000
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: Johnny best friend, he had got killed. Him and his

1001
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: mama got killed together.

1002
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: Wow.

1003
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: And I had got RP Larry because me and Larry

1004
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: went and got twenty one together. Right, So I had

1005
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: one that got RP Larry around it. That was my

1006
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: second tattooed. Right.

1007
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: What does been a father mean to you?

1008
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: Everything? It's just like I feel like that's where your

1009
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: legacy count the most, because when you think of like

1010
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: all the legends you be, like, now, I wonder what

1011
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 2: they signed on, what their kids look like, like, that's

1012
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 2: who carry on? Like, Yeah, I feel like you mean everything.

1013
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: And you're trying to be everything that your father wasn't

1014
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: to you.

1015
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1016
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: Facts do you make a is it your second nature

1017
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 1: or you try or you make a conscient or you like, yeah,

1018
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: my dad wouldn't do this, so I'm gonna do that.

1019
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: He I don't do that. It's your second nature, second nature.

1020
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: I don't even think It's like I don't even think

1021
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: of me and my daddy relationship when I think of

1022
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: like my kids religious what comes natural to me?

1023
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: Do you always want to be a parent. Did you

1024
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: always want to be a father?

1025
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I always wanted to have kids. I feel like,

1026
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: what did you What did you really do it for?

1027
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: If you don't have no kids? Right, Like, what was

1028
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: all of this for? You just gonna die? And then

1029
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 2: what that's the end of You ain't nothing else to

1030
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: go on? Like type ship, like how I look at

1031
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: like Brianni and Shiit like ken Yamarin Junior or like

1032
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: Carmelo's son. It's like, that's what it's about, Like.

1033
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: You want you What if your son say, Dad, you

1034
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: don't want to be a rapper too, I'm.

1035
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: Gonna try and find something else. But if that's his passion, ship,

1036
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: we're gonna do it the right way. Right.

1037
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: When people say rap is declining, your answer.

1038
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: Is my show probably is going up.

1039
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 1: They decline.

1040
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: It can't it can't be declining ship, My ship going up.

1041
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: I just did the most streams in the day for

1042
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 2: of my career, the biggest solo streams of my career,

1043
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: So it can't be declining. But I don't know though.

1044
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: Right what's twenty one savage goal for twenty four? We're

1045
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: early in twenty four, were January, so what can we

1046
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: expect what's your goals for twenty four?

1047
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: I just want to like level up with everything that

1048
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: I'm doing, like better show. I feel like everybody loved

1049
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 2: the album already, Like spend all time with my kids

1050
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: and my people, Like I want to go back to

1051
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: London more often and shit, and just.

1052
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: Like now that you can travel, that's something that you

1053
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: want to do.

1054
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, like traveling and just starting new ventures and shit

1055
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: and business and shit, just growing upright doing ground stuff.

1056
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 1: Twenty one Sabage, Lad and Jimmy.

1057
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 3: All my life, grunning all my life, Second Prices, hustle,

1058
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 3: back price, Wanta Slice, got to brow the dice. That's

1059
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: why all my life I've been grinding all my life. Yeah,

1060
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: all my life, grinding all my life. Sacrifice, Pussel paid

1061
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 3: the price, want to Slice, got to brow the dice.

1062
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 3: That's why all my life I've been grinding all my life.

1063
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: M m hm