1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: A single best idea, and we'll have Nicholas Burns with 3 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: us here in a moment with his public service is 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: Ambassador to China. What a great moment here today to 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: have Nick Burns for a long conversation before that on 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: the moment at hand, which is asset allocation amid our political, 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: economic investment chaos and uncertainty. Steve Chiveron is the federated 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: him as he writes brilliant short terse pieces. His summary 9 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: is simple, get back into the US, get back into tech, 10 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: be optimistic. The worst is over. Here's Steve Chiverone on 11 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: all the manufactured derivative products of the moment. 12 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: For very specific client needs. Whether it's enhancing inc or 13 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: you've got real risk aversion. You know, derivatives can play 14 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: a role over the long run in terms of building sustainable, 15 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: quiet wealth, if you will. The story is about staying invested. 16 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: I mean everything around that is just behavioral. It's about 17 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: staying invested. So the question is how do you understand 18 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: the client, how do you understand what their risk tolerance 19 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 3: is and then build them a long term asset allocation 20 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: and then be tactical enough Tom that you don't whips 21 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: all your way out of returns, but you provide the 22 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: client with enough comfort to say, Okay, we're not just 23 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: sitting here blindly because at the end of the day, 24 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: the story is really simple. Just because it's difficult doesn't 25 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: mean that it's complicated. Investing is difficult because it's hard 26 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: to stay invested, it's hard to stay unemotional. But it's 27 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: not nearly as complicated as we make it out to be. 28 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: That's just us making ourselves feel better that it's hard. 29 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: Like many of our world class guests, there's a point 30 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: where the voice changes. There was the intense Steve ship 31 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: Own really really something there on all these fancy made 32 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: up products that they no bones about it. I'm very 33 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: much against him. I just think it's people trying to 34 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: meet the fear that's out there, the sum of all 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 2: our fears, by hedging away any potential gain to get 36 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: some form of guaranteed income stream. A little bit of 37 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: complexity there. Steve chiverone just magical. Nick Burns came out 38 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: of Wellesley, Massachusetts, and for example today we talked to 39 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: him about his first job in a small African town 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: for the State Department is turned into an esteemed career 41 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: as truly one of our great diplomats. A tour of 42 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: duty in China as ambassador. We open talking about having 43 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: the weekends. He get on the high speed train and 44 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: go deep into China, where very few Americans go, very 45 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: constructive comments about the people of China. Here, Nick burns 46 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: with construction of comments on our State Department that. 47 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: You can believe that young people who join and middle 48 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 4: aged people the federal government are non partisan. We take 49 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: an oath to be nonpartisan. It's actually a law, the 50 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 4: Hatch Act of nineteen fifty two, and I served across 51 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: I served Republican presidents and Democratic presidents. I never asked 52 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 4: any of my colleagues, Hey, what party do you belong to, 53 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 4: because it would have been really inappropriate to that. And 54 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 4: what bothers me about the mass firing of our civil 55 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 4: servants in Washington is that there's somehow this suspicion that 56 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: they're all Democrats and progressives, which is absolutely not the case. 57 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 4: People just want to serve the country. So I do 58 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 4: think respectfully Secretary Rubio and President Trump, they've really weakened 59 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: the ability of the United States to put good people 60 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: in the field on the military side, on the pavilion side. 61 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: Nick Burns, of course, the former ambassador to China across 62 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: the nation, on your commute, Thank you so much for 63 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: starting your morning, this particularly the early morning of the 64 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: Left Coast on YouTube, growing each and every day. Just 65 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: absolutely humbled by the growth of Bloomberg podcast shout out 66 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: thank you Tracy Loway, Joe Wisenthal for their commitment there 67 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: with lots of Barry Ritholts out with that wonderful new 68 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: book on How Not to Invest, adding a lot of 69 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: value at Bloomberg Podcasts as well on YouTube and on 70 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: YouTube podcasts. This is single best idea