WEBVTT - Episode 57: Tour Truck Insights 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.400 The guys from paying They've kind of showed me how 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:03.920 much the equipment matters. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.000 I just love that I can hit any shot. I 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:07.640 kind of want we're gonna be able to tell some 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:09.920 fun stories about what goes on here to help golfers 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.039 play better golf. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Pinging 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.560 Proving Grounds Podcast. I'm Shane Baker. This is either gonna 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.040 be the best episode we've ever done or the worst 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.560 episode we've ever done, and there's no middle ground. We 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:22.919 are on the Pinging Tour truck with two of the 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:26.480 men that run the show throughout the year, Adam and Jack. Jack. 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:28.840 I want to start with you because I think people 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.280 come to golf tournaments they see these trucks, you know, 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:34.600 across the range, by the driving range wee get in 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.839 week out. I don't think they totally understand the process 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:39.760 of what goes on. So can you give us an 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.919 idea of like weeks on the road is what does 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:45.680 the week look like day in day out? How does 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.480 the truck process work when you're kind of in charge 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:49.120 of this whole thing. 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.559 Yeah, I think most weeks over the years they kind 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:54.920 of run together a lot of times, but over the 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.520 years you get to know kind of each place, each setup. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:01.319 You're very familiar as time goes on and his experience, right, 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.480 so you get more comfortable and you kind of know 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.160 what to expect. Sometimes you can prepare weeks ahead of time, 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.639 but for us, we function. I kind of always describe 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.880 it as like a NASCAR pit crew for a PGA 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.880 tour player or whatever tour or college that we might 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:15.960 be at with our truck. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.160 And are you showing up, Like are you driving in 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.120 on Sunday of a tournament Sunday before and then you 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.000 guys normally exit on Wednesday mornings. Is that kind of 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:24.399 the plan. 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.040 Yes, So typically we'll roll in on a Sunday. Every 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.959 truck from every manufacturer has a similar setup like we do, 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.920 and our jobs are to support ping staff players or 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.920 any non staff player that might use our equipment whatever 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:41.640 they need. Monday Tuesday Wednesday the practice round days, usually Sundays, 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.920 we're setting up. If a player happens to be on 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.680 site Sunday afternoon, which is rare. It usually happens more 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.440 at major championships that players might need a little tweak 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.680 here there on a Sunday, But typically we're setting up 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.480 Sunday morning or Sunday afternoon, and then we'll tear down 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:00.520 Wednesday afternoon before the tournament starts Thursday. Then hopefully we've 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.080 done our job, whether that's regripping their clubs, checking off 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.040 and lies, building fourteen brand new golf clubs, and getting 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.920 them a staff bag and hats if their clubs got 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:11.799 lost in transit, or if they just want to start 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:15.560 all over. So we do anything and everything, and it's 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.840 sometimes it's kind of unpredictable. You kind of never know 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:20.880 what's going to happen once the door opens, or who 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.840 might walk in the door. You might hear some clubs 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.480 rattling outside. A few clubs got broken and transit UF 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.200 had that happened a few times, and you kind of. 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:30.760 Poke your head out the door. You're like, what the 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:31.520 heck is going on? 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.079 Then you see a caddie pulling about four or five 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.400 six broken clubs out. Well, we got work to do 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.840 some events. Let us set up early, which is great. 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.520 In between we can kind of go home and then 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.240 come back on a Sunday and get ready to go. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.000 But typically it's mostly a Sunday setup and then a 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.640 Wednesday tear down, and then there's a couple of reasons 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.840 that we leave Wednesdays. A lot of people ask us 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:54.480 why were not what do you do? Why are the 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:55.720 whole turn why we're not there. 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:56.160 The whole time? 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.840 Well, for example, like at bay Hill, we used to 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.440 in the parking lot there, and these trucks there might 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.360 be ten to fourteen of them on a given week. 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.160 We take up a lot of space. Most trailers are 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.000 forty two feet long, they're sixteen feet wide once you 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:11.840 pop them all out, so they take up a lot 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.760 of room. So they want us out of there because 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:16.560 they can use that space that we take up for 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.920 parking for the rest of the week for family or 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:20.880 whoever else might be coming to watch the tournament. 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:22.160 And then the. 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.000 Best reason is we only have one trailer, so we 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.240 have to get from wherever it may be to the 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.360 next event in time to set up and be ready 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.000 to go Monday morning. So some of the drives are shorter, 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.520 some are longer. But those are the two main reasons 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:35.680 why we leave Wednesdays. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.720 Adam, are you guys driving the truck? I mean you guys. 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.080 Are you guys are the ones in charge of the equipment? 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:42.320 I mean you guys, I know you guys are a 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.480 couple more people involved in the truck on a weekend 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.200 and week out, but you're driving the truck as well, 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.160 so you've got to fit in an iron for Victor Hovlin, right, 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:51.600 and you've also got to be able to kind of 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.320 like man this thing down the ninety five. 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:53.480 That's right. 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.200 Yeah, we anyone who drivess has to have a Class 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:57.040 A CDL. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.400 This is sixty five thousand pounds they do. Yeah about that. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.840 Yeah, it's quite a challenge, let me tell you. But no, 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.880 it's eventually, like anything, the more you do it, the 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:07.640 more you get comfortable. 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:07.880 You know. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.480 We do say forty to fifty thousand miles on this 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.600 a year, which actually isn't a lot for an over 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:13.480 the road type truck. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:14.960 I mean, this is a full eighteen wheeler. 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.880 We have to follow all the regulations for hours driving 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:19.279 also working. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:23.479 So yeah, it's it's a full on eighteen wheelers. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.680 So we do drive it, but then also have to 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.960 build and like Jack was saying, you know, as we 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.240 go and we do a week in and week out, 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:32.679 a lot of times we go to the same venues 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.560 and sometimes it's super challenging. 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:34.840 You know. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.720 We'll be say Detroit, we have to get them literally 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.719 within a couple inches of each. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.000 Other, Like every one will be in a row. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.520 Within a few inches. That's the only way we can 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.480 fit in that parking lot. Other Times it's single file. 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.880 Other times it's an open field, and it's really easy 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:49.600 to get in and out. So you have to really 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.360 be able to do all those different places because most 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.640 of these country clubs aren't built to hold twelve to 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.920 thirteen eighteen wheelers. So that's part of the logistics of 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:00.760 getting this week in week out. 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.240 Are you guys both Like if you're driving from Vinue 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.160 to venue, so you'll leave in Wednesday, obviously you got 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:06.320 to get it to where if you need to get 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.240 it too. Sometime, as you mentioned Jack, sometimes you're going 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.320 Texas the Texas. Sometimes you might be going, you know, 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.520 over a few states. Are you guys both in the truck. 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:13.920 Are you guys both involved in that? Or do you 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.080 guys take time I'm gonna I'm gonna drive after riv 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.160 and you're gonna take it after Pebble. Is that kind 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:19.680 of how it goes? 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.080 Yeah, I mean we took turns there was we usually 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.240 take turns. We'll kind of do a leap frog if 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.800 you will. I think when the PJA was Okill, we 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:31.480 had the Byron Nelson in Dallas, the PGA at o'kill, 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.120 and the week after was in Fort Worth. So those 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.200 golf courses are maybe thirty miles apart, and we drove 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.400 whatever it was, three thousand or so miles. 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:40.240 For three events. 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.800 Yeah, is everybody good with their clubs at Rochester. I 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:44.960 don't think we want to get it all the way. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:46.400 Up there, and so the nice thing is like I 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:48.680 took it there work the event, and Jack took. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:49.360 It down to Fort Worth. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:50.960 I was able to get home. And that's typically how 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.039 it works with our team. We do that kind of thing. 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.760 There was one time though, that we tandem drove, which 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.080 is when two people drive at the same time, and 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.480 that was we had to do PGA pedals and he 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.080 was wheel or yeah, right, yeah, it was. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:06.359 It was actually twenty twenty. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.400 It was the PGA, which was at Harding Park that 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.680 year in August. COVID schedule kind of got adjusted right 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.960 due to COVID. But I took it up to Harding 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.800 Park from Phoenix and then I drove to Flagstaff after 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.359 working Harding Park, picked up Adam and Flagstaff. Then we 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.200 high tailed it together. To Greensboro to get it there 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.520 in time for with the window. So yeah, ironically, we 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.080 were actually the first truck there and we had to 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.320 travel the farthest distance because we were the only one 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.800 that went from Harding Park to Greensboro. So that's definitely 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.240 one of the longest drives, so that one we had 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:41.159 to do together together. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.200 That's do you guys like have seniority on who gets 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:45.760 to pick the music or the podcast or do you 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:47.640 guys kind of one of you naps in one of 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:48.360 your drives. 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.160 If it was up to me, I'd be napping the 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:50.599 whole time. 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:51.920 It's hard to nap and drive. 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.559 But yes, yeah, true, No, usually it's the guy who's driving. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.240 Like if you're driving, you're on the radio. 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.560 And you can do the pods. We talked a lot too, 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.599 and we've known each other for a really long time, 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:04.840 so you know, we get along well, I think, and 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.680 sometimes we so yeah, it's usually the guy who's driving, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.160 But that doesn't happen very often. 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:11.960 That's pretty rare, and it's because of the hours. 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:13.440 Like I was telling you, we have federal hours that 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:15.600 mandate how long we can drive when there's two of 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.480 us in the car and in the truck. Now we 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.800 can go much further because we can take turns. 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.200 Jack, you were talking a little bit about scheduling and 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.920 you mentioned there's just one Ping Tour truck, so you 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:26.600 could be at the Solheim Cup. You might have to 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.640 go to PJ Tour events. How do you lay the 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.800 schedule out and if you're let's say you're not at 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.680 a pg Tour event for a week because there's something 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.920 else going on, what do those players do if the 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:36.800 ping truck's not there? 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.520 Typically, if the truck isn't most typically our trailer goes 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.960 to most PGA Tour events and at least all the 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.760 ones that we can feasibly get to. If there are 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.640 the things that are come up in the schedule, it's 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.120 kind of our job to figure out how to get 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.160 it there between the two of us, and then we 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:53.720 kind of manage, you know, who's going to work the 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.320 event and what rep's going to be on site as well, 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.800 because typically with this trailer, we have five people that 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.880 travel with it every week. So I always describe, say 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.600 Adam and my role we were like the pharmacists in 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.480 the trailer. Then you have Kenton, Spencer Dylan, they're like 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.200 the doctor so they go, they spend more time on 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.040 the range or on the course with the players, and 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.240 then they write a prescription whether it's an order for 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.400 a new club, and we fill it out. That'd be 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.800 a good analogy to use kind of how we do 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.920 our roles. But we've all known each other for a 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.400 really long time. We all started it paying around the 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.440 same time and then worked our way through customer service, 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.320 went to the fitting apartment, so we all have fitting knowledge, 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:33.840 so we can wear many hats if we need to, 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:38.079 which is nice. Some weeks not everybody's there. You ask 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.160 specifically if there's a week where the truck's not there, 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.680 say Kent or Spencer or Dylan has to go to 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.160 an event on their own, then they take a club 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.600 love of stuff. And then we're also very friendly with 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.160 the other manufacturers out here as well, So even though 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.360 people might consider us competing brands, and it does get 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.760 competitive at times, we see each other every week, so 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.280 we are in a sense cowork, so we show up 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.040 at the events at the same time. Especially from the 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.080 text standpoint, we play tetris parking these trailers every week, 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.600 right getting them, you know, within inches of each other. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.679 So if we need to say, pack a club love 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.240 of stuff. We know the truck's not going to be 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.760 at a certain event, we can throw it on, go. 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.480 To another truck and see if they'll take it for us. 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.079 And then they might let us work off of their 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.240 van for that week. Help our players. 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.000 Adam, I'm sure a question you guys get a lot 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.640 is what happens to a player's club after Wednesday? So 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:29.960 let's say the truck leaves. And there have been plenty 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:31.520 of instances over the years. I mean, you think about 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.200 Tiger back of the day at the Masters. You know 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:34.680 he hits that four and against the tree and the 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.920 fore iron snaps. I believe that's the third round. I mean, 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.679 all of a sudden, he's gonna need that thing repaired. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:42.280 What a players do when something's tweaked within a tournament 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.640 round or they just want something to look different and 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.080 the truck has left Wednesday afternoon, Because it's not just 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:48.920 the pink truck that leaves. All the trucks. Everything's gone 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.200 on Wednesday. So what does a player do within a 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.000 tournament to get something fixed or tweaked. 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.080 Yeah, a lot of them have backups for some of 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.640 those clubs that tend to break. You know a driver 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.680 because of how hard they swimm, putters, sometimes wedges, sometimes 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:03.440 out of anger. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.120 So they might travel with twenty clubs in the bag. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:07.120 You will have a. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.880 Backup of some of those, but occasionally that doesn't happen, 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.000 and they sometimes we've had guys have to go to 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.120 like if we'll have a club area where they'll do 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.800 an adjustment, or if it's Thursday or Friday, we can 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.960 actually build a club in Phoenix, have it overnighted and 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.440 here and there on time, but if it's Saturday Sunday, 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.080 there's really not a whole lot of options. We have 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.920 had a few situations where we've had to actually pop 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:34.280 the trailer out wherever we were and fix something for 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:35.760 them so that they can do it if we were 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:36.319 close by. 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.040 I mean this is literally like pulling over on the 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.160 side of the road in theory, pop the side out, 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.559 regrip a club, ship it. However, you can ship it 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.600 close to the shipping center. I mean, it's really kind 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:45.679 of that adaptive if you will. 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.600 Basically, yeah, if we're close by, it's possible. Like Jack said, 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.600 sometimes the drives two days away, or like I just 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.760 was telling you with PGA, you know, it could be 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.440 in Ohio. By the time a club breaks, that's kind 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.400 of impossible. But we've had a few scenarios where we've 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.679 been close enough, and one where even Jack I think, 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.160 drove back to the venue to get a club for 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.760 the player because they were in contention and we definitely 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:06.760 wanted them to have their club. 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.800 So that does happen, yes, Jack, I want to transition 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:11.520 to kind of some of the stuff you've built and 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.520 some of the strange things you've seen over the years. 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:17.640 What event do you see players coming in needing tweaks 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.920 to their equipment the most? Because obviously this truck is 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:21.560 not going to be an Open championship. I mean, you're 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.520 not flying this thing across the pond. But in terms 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.320 of kind of domesticated you know, US venue golf courses, 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.120 is there one that stands out versus some of the 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.040 other ones in terms of players coming in early in 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.640 the week knowing I need new edges, I need you know, 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:34.959 something grinded down differently. 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.640 Yeah, And I think again, over the years, you kind 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.000 of learn what those events are, so a lot of 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.560 times we can prepare in advance for that. I would 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.480 say the tournament where we get the most tweaks is 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.960 probably the US Open, just because they do play it 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.520 one of the events that's at a different venue every year, 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.880 and the US Open is always one of the toughest 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:54.840 tests in golf, or at least considered that way. So 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:57.679 there's a lot of times where the course might be 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.480 you're trying to figure it out, but trying to figure 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:03.559 out what might help them on a certain place. For example, 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.079 like Wingfoot, you have had a lot of high loft 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.000 of fairy woods request that week. Tory Pine is the 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.080 same thing that year, so we actually built some nine 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:14.319 woods that got requested. Oakmont was another one that comes 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.360 to memory. I had a couple of players want to 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.040 try not a high loft affair with that week as 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.760 well British Open. We do have a European Tour vent 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:22.280 as well. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:22.360 So. 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.040 There are weeks where you can anticipate certain things. So 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.640 sometimes we'll build ahead of time and then other times 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.920 the golf course dictates a lot, so once the players 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.280 actually see it, then maybe on Tuesday Wednesday they'll come 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:37.839 and ask like, hey, actually I think I might need 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.800 this for this week, whether that's a higher loft of 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:46.200 fairywood or a stronger driving iron type club, a little 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.200 extra distance, so try to build a longer link driver 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.680 with lower lofts something like that. So we do a 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.160 lot of that kind of thing. But i'd say US 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.480 Open or PGA just because those are your high profile 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.120 events that change venues quite. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:58.280 Yeah, the golf course gens. I mean you go to 0:12:58.360 --> 0:12:59.679 riv you kind of know what your prayer prayer for 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:04.040 risk era to Augusta. You know, you said something interesting 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.480 about the like the lofted woods and preparing or getting 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.720 yourself set up. How many clubs travel in the truck 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.840 because let's say twenty players come in and want nine woods. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.280 I mean you have to have twenty nine wood heads. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.840 So what are we talking in terms of volume of 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:19.280 golf clubs within the truck? 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.480 Oh gosh, I could probably give a ballpark number. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.600 Maybe I know our inventory, it's probably about our online inventory. 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.319 We have nineteen hundred close to two. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:31.760 Thousand, almost two thousand clubs. 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.800 Yeah, club that's just heads and that's okay, irons, and 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:35.920 that actually does include. 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:39.160 Putters so drivers through loboage. So we have nineteen hundred. 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.959 Two thousand clubs. I mean, I mean travel around in 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.280 this truck, and I mean, you know, we've talked about 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.080 it before. You know, you've got to have lefty clubs 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.000 for you know, certain players, right, come in, not just 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.719 ping players, by the way, I think that's something maybe 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.840 people don't quite understand, is you'll build clubs for any 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.400 pro that comes in and asks us help, right, I mean, 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.640 this isn't just ping staffers that come in and get built, 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:57.319 that's right. Yeah. 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:00.559 And we we've seen our drivers, who especially drive specifically, 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.480 do really really well with the people that. 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:03.640 Are non staff players. 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.280 So for example, most weeks this year, it feels like 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.520 we would have twelve to fourteen staff players in the field, 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.960 but we would have thirty drivers in play, So that 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.640 means more people are playing our driver that are non 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.679 staff And we'll do if you're in the field, we're 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:18.720 going to work with you. And there's a little bit 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.040 of a you know, an ecosystem, if you will, out 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:25.200 here where if a staff player from another manufacturer is 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.800 coming to us, like there's a little it can get 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.080 a little you know, hectic there because there's some personalities, 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.560 but also there's some contracts involved, and so you have 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:38.280 to be careful when that happens. But with those non staffers, 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:39.960 like if you're here, we're here to help you, and 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:41.640 we want you to get in our clubs. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.320 All right, Adam, let's get in the weeds. Which player 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.800 kind of currently on tour and you can go across 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.920 both tours if you want. Is the let's say, easiest 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:53.440 to build clubs for. They don't necessarily care too hardy 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.840 on like the specs and things like that. And let's say, 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.800 who is the most particular about their golf clubs being built? Wow? 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:03.240 Right now, easiest? 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.880 I mean it's hard with not to say Saw I 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:09.120 mean Sahit Thigala. He's just so easy going out there 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.520 when we work with him. Obviously just an incredible player. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.440 He's in a great place with his game. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.840 And when when you see that, those guys are very 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.960 very easy to work with. And nice thing is about 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.400 when you're fitting or watching these guys play guys and girls, 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:26.080 you'll see you make these small changes, and those changes 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.600 you can see right away, Like if you guys like, hey, 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.360 I'm hitting a little bit too low, we had a 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.360 little half to reel off. Bang, it starts hitting their 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.280 window And that just makes it your life so much 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.440 easier because how consistent they are as far as the 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:42.800 most particular, I don't know, Jack, you might have to 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:43.640 jump in on this one. 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:45.120 Well, I think about it. 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.440 I mean, somebody that's i mean really you know that 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.280 really knows the specs. 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.640 Like well a team Bubba Watson is that way. 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:56.200 So with his lob wedge and his driver, he's most particular, okay, 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.680 and because he has his all the raps he has 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:04.240 under under his club. So it's it's fifteen thirteen driver, right, 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.160 fifteen thirteen under every other club except loboys is eleven 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:11.040 and thirteen. What that means is, yeah, fifteen under under 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.160 his bottom hand, fifteen extra wraps of tape under his 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.880 bottom hand, fifteen thirteen under the top. 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.760 Now, most tour players are doing a rap or two. 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.920 One maybe plus one, maybe plus two. 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:22.760