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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys as March is here. It is March first,
Speaker 1: and we have March madness to talk about. And I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about college hoops. I'm talking about contracts because
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and the deadline, the countdown, all of it
Speaker 1: is coming down to single digits, just a couple of
Speaker 1: days away, March ninth, the tag deadline to find out
Speaker 1: whether or not Dak Prescott will be the Cowboys quarterback
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. And we're gonna talk about it here.
Speaker 1: I'm Talking Cowboys. Kyle Yeoman's, Isaiah stand Back, Rob Phillips
Speaker 1: and heck, Harrison has always the usual crue, Chris being
Speaker 1: doing a great job from the stars always. But Rob,
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy. This has come down the pipe
Speaker 1: for like the last two years, last two offseasons, and
Speaker 1: now we're getting into the point where, well, it's do
Speaker 1: or die for the Cowboys and for Dak Prescott over
Speaker 1: the next couple of days. Would we have it any
Speaker 1: other way? Could we have it any other way with
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott? Really? You know a lot of the Cowboys
Speaker 1: deals come down to this. You know, Dez Bryant got
Speaker 1: his deal done in twenty fifteen. It was mere hours
Speaker 1: on July fifteenth before they got it done to avoid
Speaker 1: the tag. So you know, like you said, it's going
Speaker 1: to come down to a matter of days. You know,
Speaker 1: March ninth is the deadline for teams to last day
Speaker 1: before they'd have to tag a franchise tag player. I
Speaker 1: kind of look at it maybe more an extension of
Speaker 1: March fifteenth, something like that, because you know, sure they'd
Speaker 1: have to tag in by March ninth. If no deal,
Speaker 1: it's a placeholder, they could keep talking. The biggest thing
Speaker 1: would be to get it in place by the start
Speaker 1: of free agency or by the start of the legal
Speaker 1: window where you can start negotiating. They've got to create
Speaker 1: some room. I think they understand that. The question is
Speaker 1: can they get the deal done? But I was talking
Speaker 1: to Dave Helmet about this, Isaiah, Heck, you know, we
Speaker 1: can talk about the Cowboys free agents and things they
Speaker 1: need to do and things they'd like to do, but
Speaker 1: everything is tied to this deal because it all depends
Speaker 1: on what the cap hit will be on Dak's deal,
Speaker 1: whether it's the franchise tager. You know, hopefully you lower
Speaker 1: it and give yourself some type of wiggle room. Isaiah,
Speaker 1: how nerve wracking is this from a players standpoint? Whenever?
Speaker 1: It does have a lot to do with the agents,
Speaker 1: with the front office, with the team situation. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many different factors that go into it. We've
Speaker 1: hit it all before on this show in previous episodes.
Speaker 1: But is there any kind of nerves whenever it comes
Speaker 1: to a players standpoint, because you don't really know what
Speaker 1: your future is going to look like. Man from dak standpoint,
Speaker 1: I would say no. I mean, I really feel like
Speaker 1: Dak is in control of this situation. I think he
Speaker 1: has the upper hand and this negotiating, these negotiations, and
Speaker 1: I don't think that the Cowboys necessarily like that. I
Speaker 1: think that they're going to try to lean on the
Speaker 1: fact that all you're hurt, we don't know if you're
Speaker 1: gonna come back. I think he feels pretty confident that
Speaker 1: he's gonna come back healthy and if they want, they know,
Speaker 1: I think that they know if they franchise tag him again,
Speaker 1: he's not coming back. And that's a leverage that I
Speaker 1: think that he has. He's one of the best quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the league. They sucked without him. He's getting healthy,
Speaker 1: there's reports that he's getting Healthy's a he's a you know,
Speaker 1: the hands down leader of this organization. He is the
Speaker 1: face of this organization. Without him, they have no direction, really,
Speaker 1: So I think that he's in total under control of this.
Speaker 1: So I don't think that he has any stress at all.
Speaker 1: He's like, either I'm gonna get paid a lot of
Speaker 1: money this year and then I'm a I'm a double
Speaker 1: down next year, or they gotta take care of me
Speaker 1: right now. So I think he's perfectly fine. He's focused.
Speaker 1: He's probably over there just focused on his rehab hack.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think Dak is in the driver's seat. I agree with
Speaker 1: Isaiah and what he's saying about it, but really the
Speaker 1: franchise tag kind of doubles as an interim tag for
Speaker 1: like interim coach, interim quarterback. All of those things are
Speaker 1: not cultural building, right, And Isaiah, you've talked a lot
Speaker 1: about the culture of the Cowboys and how do you
Speaker 1: build that. It's really hard to build a around the
Speaker 1: guy or guys to get behind him not knowing what
Speaker 1: his future is gonna be. And if you think about,
Speaker 1: you know, the rumblings of other on other teams and
Speaker 1: guys looking at Dak's situation. You know, a guy that's
Speaker 1: a Day three pick that has worked his wi, pulled
Speaker 1: himself up, and done it all the right way and
Speaker 1: still not be rewarded. I think that's got to give
Speaker 1: some guys, even within the organization pause. Why hasn't Dak
Speaker 1: gotten played yet? What are the deals or parameters within
Speaker 1: this contract negotiation that the team does not agree with
Speaker 1: and the reason why we can't get it done. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've finally gotten to the point where you know, I've
Speaker 1: always been like, I think we're gonna get this done.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get this done. But lately I'm just feeling like,
Speaker 1: even from both sides, no one has said anything. And
Speaker 1: with all of the Russell Wilson talk and all the
Speaker 1: trades and all those other things in other areas, it
Speaker 1: just gives you pause because you don't know if this
Speaker 1: is actually the priority or if the front office and
Speaker 1: is looking already in a different direction. I think I've
Speaker 1: gotten to the point where I'm pessimistic for the first
Speaker 1: time about getting a deal done. I thought whenever the
Speaker 1: season was over and we were talking about negotiating contracts,
Speaker 1: I thought there was a chance you got it done
Speaker 1: before March ninth. Now, like Rob said to start the show,
Speaker 1: March ninth is a placeholder. It's not the be all,
Speaker 1: end all in terms of Dak's contract. But right now
Speaker 1: it just doesn't look like it's gonna get done. And
Speaker 1: if it does, it will get done right up on
Speaker 1: the deadline, prior to the tag deadline, which is March ninth.
Speaker 1: But I still think the Cowboys will end up tagging
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. And that's just based on my own thought,
Speaker 1: my own feeling going into But I'm like fifty fifty Kyle,
Speaker 1: I'm well, I mean, well, I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: number of days is not very large, so and we're
Speaker 1: going off with two years, so I don't know how
Speaker 1: you can really feel confident about it. To your point,
Speaker 1: that being said, I think it does sound like the
Speaker 1: Cowboys want to get it done. I I do believe that.
Speaker 1: I assume Dax wants to get it done, get that
Speaker 1: type of security, and so I think especially from the
Speaker 1: Cowboys perspective, I just mentioned, Look, thirty seven point seven
Speaker 1: million dollars to carry on your cap going into free agency.
Speaker 1: They would love to avoid that. Now, can they figure
Speaker 1: it out in eight days or do they need a
Speaker 1: little bit more time. I'm kind of with you, Kyle,
Speaker 1: like I just I gotta see it at this point.
Speaker 1: But I rob if they don't haven't figured out by now,
Speaker 1: then there's art. There's that argument too. I mean, it
Speaker 1: has been two years. Yeah, they can't. They can't franchise
Speaker 1: take him. I hear you, I hear you, both of
Speaker 1: you guys, But they cannot. They can't avoid that. This
Speaker 1: deal has to get done or you don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about talking about Deck next year. Not here you're saying,
Speaker 1: even if he gets tagged, just okay, we just need
Speaker 1: a little bit more time. We're not quite done yet. No,
Speaker 1: if he gets tagged period, If I'm Dak, noah, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not doing that because at what point
Speaker 1: are you gonna allow them to continue to take advantage
Speaker 1: of you? So if I'm yeah, So, if I'm Dak,
Speaker 1: you've had two years to figure this out. Player, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, like, that's what I'm gona
Speaker 1: talking to. Hey, mister Jones, look here, if you ever
Speaker 1: figured it out by now, then I'm gone. You know, like,
Speaker 1: I've done everything that I can do. I have given
Speaker 1: everything that I have. I have led this organization, every
Speaker 1: test that I've been given, I've I've knocked it out
Speaker 1: the part. What else do you want from me? Right?
Speaker 1: And if you don't think that that that is enough
Speaker 1: by this point, don't tell me that you only have
Speaker 1: eight days. You've had these last two years as hecks right,
Speaker 1: So don't don't don't try to make it seem like it's,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I need more time. No, you know
Speaker 1: if you don't, because if you don't value me to
Speaker 1: this date, then you don't have trust me. You don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about me. You won't have to worry
Speaker 1: about me, And that's that would be my stance if
Speaker 1: I was back. Well, if I gotta say this, guys,
Speaker 1: you know it's it's an old saying. If you if
Speaker 1: you don't know your history, you're doomed to repeat it.
Speaker 1: And the Dallas Cowboys organization, if you just look at
Speaker 1: the history of the organisation and some of the bad
Speaker 1: quarterback decisions that's been made, it is just pretty much
Speaker 1: handcuffed us over the years. I mean, you could go
Speaker 1: all the way back to the eighties of Gary Hogeboom,
Speaker 1: Steve Peloor. You can go to when you know Vinny
Speaker 1: Testaverde was washed up. You could go to the Clint Stoner's,
Speaker 1: the Anthony Wrights, you could go to the what's this guy?
Speaker 1: Matt Castle, uh, Drew Bledsol, Drew Henson and all of
Speaker 1: those names don't do nothing but make your stuff. Give
Speaker 1: you the bubble guts. When I say that, it's because
Speaker 1: because all of those players did not allow this franchise
Speaker 1: to go forward based off of that quarterback play and
Speaker 1: all of man man, I get asked all the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been in my community almost twenty years,
Speaker 1: and I got all my neighbors asking when you're gonna
Speaker 1: sign that, when you're gonna sign back, And that's the answer.
Speaker 1: So you got the question. But people are on both
Speaker 1: sides saying, oh, well, we don't need them and we
Speaker 1: can we can save this money to get who what, what?
Speaker 1: Where are we gonna go? As far as if you
Speaker 1: look around, if you're if you're saying, okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go into the draft, we're gonna get a rookie quarterback, well, okay,
Speaker 1: good luck with that. Right, What's what are you trying
Speaker 1: to build off of that? And what can you get
Speaker 1: at ten after Trevor Lawrence is gone? Then that's a
Speaker 1: whole nother conversation. But we have to start asking, like,
Speaker 1: what are we saving this money up for? Because we've
Speaker 1: had two years to get it done. The deal is
Speaker 1: black and white. I believe it's around the forty million dollars.
Speaker 1: Mark Right's forty million dollars. Give a take, right, what
Speaker 1: are we trying to save? What are we saying is
Speaker 1: he Russell Wilson is thirty six million dollars? Are we're
Speaker 1: saving four million dollars? But what are we doing? Right?
Speaker 1: And that's the that is my point with this whole
Speaker 1: argument about that being good not great, Like guys in
Speaker 1: ESPN are saying, you know, he's good, he's not great.
Speaker 1: Does he deserve Aaron Rodgers. He's not Aaron Rodgers. It's
Speaker 1: just too much going between. Let's get the deal done
Speaker 1: so we can start building for the future around our
Speaker 1: Frank Sis quarterback. Now, you make a fantastic point because
Speaker 1: everything falls in line with the Dak Prescott deal because
Speaker 1: we can talk about Dak Prescott all the way up
Speaker 1: until that deal was signed. When it comes to other topics,
Speaker 1: and sure there are other topics that defense, the special teams,
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, I mean, there's so many different other topics,
Speaker 1: but until you figure out what's going on with Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: you can't move on to those topics because it starts
Speaker 1: the domino effect. It starts the talking point for the
Speaker 1: rest of this Cowboys organization. Because we talked about crossroads
Speaker 1: two or three weeks ago on the show, and we
Speaker 1: haven't figured out which way we're going. We're still standing
Speaker 1: right the cross roads to figure it out. And Isaiah, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: you kind of started shifting my thought process in terms
Speaker 1: of the leverage in this situation with the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott, because specifically with Dak, if they tag
Speaker 1: him at the March ninth deadline, what incentive does he
Speaker 1: have to sign a longer term deal with Dallas after
Speaker 1: the March ninth deadline prior of the draft. There's really
Speaker 1: no incentive. You're gonna make thirty eight point one million
Speaker 1: dollars and you're gonna make a ton of money, which
Speaker 1: is probably more than you would even make on your
Speaker 1: first year as a salary player with the Cowboys. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, so you're gonna make a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Look at it like this kind it's kind of like
Speaker 1: kind of like you know some of the situations that
Speaker 1: I would imagine, like that that Rob has been in,
Speaker 1: or you know, maybe even hack him up back before
Speaker 1: he got locked down by Miss Nikki. You know what
Speaker 1: it's like. You know, you could you could date somebody
Speaker 1: for a long time, right, they had At a certain point,
Speaker 1: the lady's gonna ask for what she said, you need
Speaker 1: to make a commitment to me. Yep, you need to
Speaker 1: make a commitment. And if you if you're unwilling to
Speaker 1: make a commitment to me, he right, this That's how
Speaker 1: I did with my wife, right, I can tell y
Speaker 1: all this story. Okay, so my wife, I was dating her,
Speaker 1: might have been dating a couple of people at the
Speaker 1: same time, and a certain at a certain point, she
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, if you don't commit to
Speaker 1: me right now, and if I walk out that door,
Speaker 1: you won't have to worry about me. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be around. I'm still gonna love you, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be going on to the next one. Right. That was
Speaker 1: your March Nights, that's marsh Knight. Marsh knightth is d Day. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: you don't commit to me, all right, if you don't
Speaker 1: put a ring on that thing aka forty million, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gone and you won't have to worry about me.
Speaker 1: So that's the same thing as you guys start looking through,
Speaker 1: as we all start looking through all these different organizations,
Speaker 1: it's an identity thing. It's not only just a quarterback thing.
Speaker 1: It's literally in an identity thing. So if you go
Speaker 1: through the top the top organizations in this league, right,
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots were they were, their identity was
Speaker 1: who Tom Brady right in Belichick? Right, you think about
Speaker 1: the New Leans Saints after well, we don't know for sure.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees walking away, right, but he's walking away. Drew
Speaker 1: Brees walks away. What's their identity? What's their identity? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, so you start you start looking at somebody
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, Aaron Rodgers and he walks
Speaker 1: away from Green Bay. What happens? Who are yeah? Right,
Speaker 1: So you start looking at all these different organizations if
Speaker 1: you don't have that guy. Not only is are you
Speaker 1: trying to feel, not only avoid at that position, you're
Speaker 1: now trying to figure out the identity of your team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we we found out. You know, look, Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: played okay, played pretty good, but look we saw what
Speaker 1: Dak meant to the team on the field and in
Speaker 1: the locker room, and how they struggled and struggled with
Speaker 1: their confidence believing they could win games. I feel like
Speaker 1: without him when he win, he went down with the
Speaker 1: ankle injury. Now I will say this, and I'm getting
Speaker 1: Index's head here. If it were me, you know, coming
Speaker 1: off of that really serious injury, I would love to
Speaker 1: have a one hundred plus million bucks done, signed, delivered
Speaker 1: this spring instead of saying, ah, you know, I can,
Speaker 1: I can? You know you do this spring? This out
Speaker 1: for another year and yeah, I'm getting thirty seven million
Speaker 1: guaranteed and then do this next year. I'd rather get
Speaker 1: it now. That's just me. I don't know if Dak
Speaker 1: feels that way. I just feel like there's incentive on
Speaker 1: both sides to get this thing done in eight days.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know exactly where they are with
Speaker 1: these negoti jas, but I think at some point if
Speaker 1: there's a little bit momentum, I agree with you guys.
Speaker 1: I don't think it should take that long to figure
Speaker 1: it out. As much as they've been talking, despite the
Speaker 1: fact there's questions about the cap this year and all that.
Speaker 1: What is what is the next domino to fall Rob
Speaker 1: after Dak Prescott? Because I mean, we can sit here,
Speaker 1: like I said, we can sit and talk. I haven't
Speaker 1: thought that's Far's that's my point because like I, like
Speaker 1: Isaiah said, there's no identity. Then where do you go next?
Speaker 1: Where do you go? And so that's what's Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can find out, Yeah, Exam Becker. He So that's what's
Speaker 1: frustrating to me, looking as an outsider, is if you're
Speaker 1: that focused and you're that intent on trying to get
Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback taken care of over not only just
Speaker 1: this off season, but the last two off seasons, and
Speaker 1: you know that this is going to be a repercus
Speaker 1: should have not being able to take that next step
Speaker 1: because I don't know if the Cowboys know what the
Speaker 1: next domino would be once they get this deal done,
Speaker 1: because you can't really figure that out. And and heck
Speaker 1: but like you said earlier, if you don't figure it out,
Speaker 1: there's no identity, there's no next step, and there's really
Speaker 1: nowhere else you can go. Yeah, Kyle, you have to
Speaker 1: figure that out. That's what you're getting paid the big
Speaker 1: bucks for. You gotta know where you're gonna go. I mean,
Speaker 1: nine days to get this deal done. I expected to
Speaker 1: get it get done. I hope that you get it done.
Speaker 1: And Isaiah, that was boy, you got some cohonas on
Speaker 1: you when you, you know, do the comparison on how
Speaker 1: you got married and all of that and the whole
Speaker 1: competition by committee deal. You know, I would just think
Speaker 1: that you know, you were sitting there and you were
Speaker 1: evaluating as Lisa I'll tell you. But either way, you
Speaker 1: know what's best for you. And I feel like everyone knows,
Speaker 1: or at least I feel like those that understand for
Speaker 1: ball realized that DAK is in our problem. We have
Speaker 1: gaping holes on defense that we have to fix, and
Speaker 1: we are shining the spotlight on DAC. But guys, we
Speaker 1: are forgetting about the elephant in the room, and that's
Speaker 1: our defense. If you want to go over the first
Speaker 1: five games of the season and look at the points
Speaker 1: that were scored, historically bad defense played those first five games.
Speaker 1: All right, we scored thirty points, but the other teams
Speaker 1: were averaging forty points. You can't win many football games
Speaker 1: that way, and you can't even align the rest of
Speaker 1: your roster or anything else unless you get this piece done.
Speaker 1: The salary cap did not do us any favors. And
Speaker 1: I don't know what the whole mind state is behind
Speaker 1: being under the salary cap, but still it's getting us
Speaker 1: a losing season if we don't have our all stud quarterback. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what to that point, you're absolutely right. We
Speaker 1: all know that the gaping hole in it on this
Speaker 1: tired organization right now, it's a defense. However, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to build our defense through what maybe a couple
Speaker 1: of draft picks, but mostly through what free agency? Free agency? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't free agent. Am I for free? If I'm
Speaker 1: a free agent, am I going any anywhere where there's
Speaker 1: not a good quarterback? That's boy, that's a good question,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. I am I going? Is JA
Speaker 1: answered me? This is jj wat gonna pick a team
Speaker 1: that doesn't have a super Bowl caliber quarterback? No, no,
Speaker 1: just he just picked a team. By the way, he
Speaker 1: just Arizona reasoning Arizona retracked my statement. Then I retract
Speaker 1: this in Kyler Murray. Goodness gracious, No, he's joining it
Speaker 1: up with That's what he's doing. He's joining he's running
Speaker 1: it back in Arizona with de Hop. But hey, but
Speaker 1: I that yeah, that's that's why they got to get
Speaker 1: this thing done and the next because it affects everything. Now,
Speaker 1: the cat might go up above one eighty, right, but
Speaker 1: it's not gonna go They reports are not above like
Speaker 1: one eighty five this year. If he's at thirty seven
Speaker 1: point seven, that's twenty one percent of your cap. That's
Speaker 1: almost as much as as Pat Maholmes was on on
Speaker 1: Kansas City's cap. There's nobody else even close. And so
Speaker 1: how do you WHOA I'm not, I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: blaming Dak. I'm just saying that's that's the reality of
Speaker 1: trying to rebuild your defense. If that's the cap truck, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's um. Now, it could be a weird
Speaker 1: offseason where guys are taking one year deals and taking lass,
Speaker 1: you know. But but that's not a lot to bank on,
Speaker 1: you know. Damn. Everybody just needs to take a big
Speaker 1: sigh of relief. Who's big deep breath in, deep breath out,
Speaker 1: because there's still a long way to go. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've still got nine days of this to talk about it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna have another show next week, by
Speaker 1: the way, Monday at eleven thirty Central Time. Where will
Speaker 1: you say, oh, well, you know now there's forty eight
Speaker 1: hours until this Dak deadline. No, he's signed, He's signed
Speaker 1: by next show. He signed. That would be nice. I'd
Speaker 1: be really I'd be okay with that. Hey, J J.
Speaker 1: Watt picked the team Dak Prescott consigned for right when
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Speaker 1: and I had an awesome experience getting these people are phenomenal.
Speaker 1: You guys. I can't wait till you get a chance
Speaker 1: to do it. I can't wait either. Yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: wait either, because Heckman broke the rules and went before
Speaker 1: he cut no uh yeah right mentioned this going into
Speaker 1: the latter or during the last segment rather, but JJ
Speaker 1: Watt just signing with the Arizona Cardinals a couple moments
Speaker 1: ago to two years thirty one million dollars, twenty three
Speaker 1: of that guaranteed to go join a defense that toward
Speaker 1: the Cowboys quite a bit on Monday Night Football in
Speaker 1: Week six this past season, Rob, what are your initial
Speaker 1: thoughts on JJ's deal, one of the more polarizing defensive
Speaker 1: figures the NFL seen the past decade. I like his tweet.
Speaker 1: He broke the story with like a superimposed shirt on
Speaker 1: his sorts. Me. I love that. Um. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: gonna make their defense instantly better. They've got some some
Speaker 1: pieces on offense for sure. I wonder if I wonder
Speaker 1: if that's the best offer he got. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Twenty three guaranteed over two years and
Speaker 1: fifteen a year. Pretty good. Um. I kind of thought
Speaker 1: he was gonna stay. I thought he was either gonna
Speaker 1: sign with one of the Bays, either Tampa or Green
Speaker 1: Bay or or you know, maybe maybe um maybe one
Speaker 1: of those AFC teams that's got money, you know, like
Speaker 1: a like an Indianapolis or something. But interesting signing NFC
Speaker 1: west Man. It's a pretty solid division. Yeah, nothing but
Speaker 1: respect for JJ watt Man. It's mister Houston Texas and
Speaker 1: you know, done a phenomenal job. I thought last year
Speaker 1: Man the production was down. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was just because no OTAs in time to prepare. But
Speaker 1: still with the injuries and all the things that he's had,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that I put up there amongst the
Speaker 1: guys that need to get a ring to submit their greatness. Right.
Speaker 1: It is to a certain degree guys get to a
Speaker 1: point in their career where the last thing is getting
Speaker 1: a ring. And so Pete that's what I thought. I
Speaker 1: thought he was going to Tampa Bay. That three four
Speaker 1: system that they have, it fits him ideally. But when
Speaker 1: you have a secondary like you know, the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: have Man, you know, Buddha Baker, JJ watt Maybe they
Speaker 1: keep you know Simmons, the linebacker from Clemson, and who
Speaker 1: knows if they keep Pat p But they're solidified on
Speaker 1: their defensive end and offensively Karla Murray. They're just not
Speaker 1: gonna do anything but get better. So Coodoles and JJ
Speaker 1: Watt Man with the NFC West being as good as
Speaker 1: they already were last year, and then you have to
Speaker 1: deal with La made with Detroit to bring Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: I mean they're getting good again. I mean you look
Speaker 1: at Arizona, they're a young team that's continuing to build.
Speaker 1: Now they're adding this veteran presence in JJ Watt. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a cutthroat division. But then you look up north
Speaker 1: to the team that's really run that division over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, to Seattle, and the Seahawks have
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks around Pete Carroll, around Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson and his future with the Seahawks, and of course
Speaker 1: the Cowboys kind of got roped into that last week.
Speaker 1: And one of the big things that I saw last week,
Speaker 1: or at least storylines, was potential trade rumors from of
Speaker 1: course Russell Wilson going from Seattle to Dallas, and then
Speaker 1: also guys like Dan Orlovsky on ESPN, who I have
Speaker 1: here I have respect for as a journalist, but not
Speaker 1: really at the same time, because he does throw a
Speaker 1: lot of potatoes at the wall and tries to get
Speaker 1: it to stick as much as possible. Stephen A. Smith
Speaker 1: a lot of the same thing there, and I think
Speaker 1: ultimately they don't understand how tough it would be on
Speaker 1: the Cowboys on the Seahawks to get a deal done.
Speaker 1: Then you have other people on Fox Sports one saying that, hey,
Speaker 1: guess what you can throw in Ezekiel Elliot to try
Speaker 1: and make this thing work. Well, it doesn't work for
Speaker 1: either side. It doesn't work for anybody at all, players, teams,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. So my thought process here, and we
Speaker 1: talked about it last week on Russell Wilson. But Isaiah,
Speaker 1: how tough would it be to get Russell Wilson to Dallas?
Speaker 1: And is that even remotely realistic or is it even
Speaker 1: worth even talking No, it's not worth talking about it.
Speaker 1: I know we're talking about it briefly, but it won't happen.
Speaker 1: It will happen. I mean, I get when when's the
Speaker 1: last time you know, I guess I'm Maria Cooper's the
Speaker 1: last time we gave up any sizable draft draft positioning
Speaker 1: to go get somebody. It's not something that US does,
Speaker 1: And that's something that you would have to do. Um
Speaker 1: in Seattle, especially with my guy Schneider up there. He's
Speaker 1: he's he's a he's a he's a draft pick, Howard right,
Speaker 1: He just he loves draft picks. Um. He knows how
Speaker 1: to utilize him. He's a genius when it comes to it.
Speaker 1: So that's what it would take he's not really interested
Speaker 1: in high dollar acquisitions. Rob. Yeah, the simple look, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys want to sign their guy. I'm confident in that.
Speaker 1: Number one, number two. This, This ends the conversation right here.
Speaker 1: Seahawks didn't even want to trade Earl Thomas back in
Speaker 1: the day, right, They didn't want to do that. To
Speaker 1: trade Russell Wilson. It would cost them almost forty million
Speaker 1: dollars just to get him off of their team, like
Speaker 1: they're best player Hall of Famer. That makes no financial sense,
Speaker 1: That makes no sense in terms of trying to win
Speaker 1: football games. I don't know if they're going to work
Speaker 1: it out up there. He's obviously not happy about something, uh,
Speaker 1: particularly I guess the way he's been protected up there.
Speaker 1: But I just don't this. It's fun to talk about nationally,
Speaker 1: but it's I just don't think it's a story, especially
Speaker 1: not for the Cowboys. I think Sierra is tired of
Speaker 1: the rain. I like it. I like it. You know,
Speaker 1: come on, let's let's play with this idea for a second,
Speaker 1: all right, and I mean for a very short second. Guys,
Speaker 1: you're right, Pete to forty million dollars just to get
Speaker 1: out of town. Who does that besides the Boo Eagles, right,
Speaker 1: And so you wouldn't think that Seattle would pull something
Speaker 1: like this often. Where are all these rumblings coming from
Speaker 1: that Russ wants to leave Seattle? And you know, I
Speaker 1: think there are a lot that it's a lot of
Speaker 1: intrigue and people are talking about you know, I've seen
Speaker 1: those means of him in the Cowboys uniform. I love
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I think he's one of the good guys
Speaker 1: in the league. And you know, he stands for family.
Speaker 1: You can see everything about him is good Christian values.
Speaker 1: I love that. But I love that for him in Seattle. Right,
Speaker 1: And you talk about the rain, the only rain I
Speaker 1: want to talk about his ringa colda press Scott Right,
Speaker 1: that's it. And and look, if we're just talking about
Speaker 1: production from both of these players, just could do a
Speaker 1: comparison between Dak and his first five years and Russell
Speaker 1: to his The numbers are damned there identical. Where Dak
Speaker 1: and his fourth year almost through for five thousand yards. Again,
Speaker 1: that's an eight and eight season. But people love to
Speaker 1: talk about the numbers and all those things. Let's let's
Speaker 1: stay consistent. When you want to talk about the numbers,
Speaker 1: about Russ and you want to talk about Dak. They're identical.
Speaker 1: So you're giving up a younger version of Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: for older Russell Wilson. Got whatever. You look at the
Speaker 1: conversation as a whole, it doesn't make any sense. And
Speaker 1: like Rob said, pure forty million dollars to get Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson out of town. That's enough already to say this
Speaker 1: isn't worth doing, this isn't worth talking about. Yet a
Speaker 1: lot of people are looking at a lot of people
Speaker 1: were excited about, Hey, he could potentially go to the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's not going to go anywhere unless he says
Speaker 1: he's sitting out. And if he's gonna go somewhere, it's
Speaker 1: going to go to a place that can take a
Speaker 1: little bit of that cap hit, which the Cowboys can't
Speaker 1: afford to do right now because they're not that close
Speaker 1: at the moment. Now. I'm never one to go after
Speaker 1: media personalities and even like call people out on that regard,
Speaker 1: but ultimately, well I already did with dan Or Lobsky
Speaker 1: and Stephen A. Smith. They're spread so thin. Can we
Speaker 1: get them some help producer wise? Up there? Can we
Speaker 1: get somebody that knows the landscape of how the NFL
Speaker 1: works to be by their side and feed their own
Speaker 1: opinions into their ears. Because first it was the Dak
Speaker 1: hype video or the hype video that the Cowboys put
Speaker 1: out or that our department put out, and then ultimately
Speaker 1: it was apparently a slap in the face to Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: which is not the case, was never the case. And
Speaker 1: then on the other side, it's now this talking about
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's going to be a cowboy. It's stupid, it's
Speaker 1: a re it's it's annoying. I'm fed up with that conversation.
Speaker 1: Really really, do you know, Hey, Kyle, they love keeping
Speaker 1: that start in their mouth, man, and that's what we do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna, We're gonna. It's so many we have so
Speaker 1: many haters, and that's what they want to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: they want to sabotage our cap They want to do
Speaker 1: so many things. I mean, and talk about Pete like
Speaker 1: when you said this, this is it ends the conversation
Speaker 1: when you talk about a team taking on a forty
Speaker 1: million dollar cap pit. Oh my gosh. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think originally the report by Belief came from his
Speaker 1: agents saying, this is the list of teams he would
Speaker 1: go to. What team gets more talk and buzz than
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Maybe there was some some you know, maybe
Speaker 1: that was orchestrated a little bit. You know, so sex
Speaker 1: Cells and the Cowboys are sexy baby, no matter, he
Speaker 1: always have man. And that's why, I mean, that's once
Speaker 1: again why this whole situation is so explosive and it's
Speaker 1: so volatile because at the moment, I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: know what direction this Cowboys team is going to go.
Speaker 1: And I asked this question a while back on the show,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to ask it again those to you guys,
Speaker 1: because last week we did talk about Russell Wilson and
Speaker 1: how good of a quarterback Russell Wilson is. But is
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott worth the money? Simple as that, because I
Speaker 1: want to go around the horn here and answer this question,
Speaker 1: and I want you to answer it truthfully because if not,
Speaker 1: I'm going to call you out because both of you
Speaker 1: guys are actually almost all three of you guys last
Speaker 1: week said that Russell Wilson is a better quarterback than
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, But does that mean that he's still worth
Speaker 1: the money as a franchise quarterback moving into of course,
Speaker 1: what will be his second contract. Do you think that's
Speaker 1: a realistic thing for the Cowboys route. Yes, I've been
Speaker 1: pretty consistent all throughout months and months. I think they
Speaker 1: should resign Dak. I still think ultimately they will. It
Speaker 1: may not get done in the next say days. The
Speaker 1: reasons why, I've got three reasons for you. One, the
Speaker 1: cap will continue to go up and quarterback salaries will
Speaker 1: continue to go up. So yes, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: money to sign Dak, but it's going to be even
Speaker 1: more money to sign Dak in future years, so you know,
Speaker 1: the salaries will only continue to rise at this position.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and get it done, you know, go draft
Speaker 1: another one is a popular thing, right Well, look inside
Speaker 1: the NFC East and see the teams that have been
Speaker 1: drafted in the top ten, top fifteen. They're not around anymore.
Speaker 1: Or their question marks about Daniel Jones in New York,
Speaker 1: whether he can pan out, it's not that easy. And
Speaker 1: then also I think there's also a misconception about teams
Speaker 1: can't win with a quarterback absorbing a huge percentage of
Speaker 1: the salary cap. I don't agree with that. I think
Speaker 1: there's been some chances there that haven't worked out for teams,
Speaker 1: and ultimately you got to have a really good one
Speaker 1: and you pay Dak for what he can be, not
Speaker 1: just what he is right now. No, I think I've
Speaker 1: been consistent also about Dak Prescott and getting the deal done.
Speaker 1: I mean when you talked about Russell, we were just saying, if,
Speaker 1: if all else, if this was a guy that you
Speaker 1: would go to, would you decline Russell Wilson And the
Speaker 1: obvious answer would be hell, no, You're signed Russ and
Speaker 1: a heartbeat, right, but no factors being thrown in there,
Speaker 1: no added money or picks or whatever it would take
Speaker 1: to get him. You're talking straight, Yeah, exactly, That's That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You'd be stupid to not, you know,
Speaker 1: consider that if, if, if, there's no way that this
Speaker 1: deal can get done. But I just I just feel
Speaker 1: like from an organizational standpoint, looking around the league, there
Speaker 1: aren't thirty one, There aren't thirty one other teams that
Speaker 1: wouldn't sign there all everything quarterback, and we have let
Speaker 1: this thing just accumulating, just just be groundhall day when
Speaker 1: we have to put this behind us. I mean I
Speaker 1: said it before, I say it again. We can't it
Speaker 1: really is put us in a situation where we cannot
Speaker 1: get anything else done until we get this done. And
Speaker 1: if we're not gonna get that, if we're not gonna
Speaker 1: get Dak's deal done, then that changes the draft show.
Speaker 1: You now instead of talking about getting a quarterback and
Speaker 1: all of that other stuff, now you're talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe putting some deals together to get a high quarterback pick, right,
Speaker 1: getting up really high to pick a guy. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it changes so much. We're at we're at
Speaker 1: the crossroads. We gotta make a decision, and Dak is
Speaker 1: right here, and I don't believe that we should be saying, oh,
Speaker 1: is the ankle gonna heal any of that. That's the
Speaker 1: same mistake that San Diego made with Drew Brees with
Speaker 1: his shoulder. Did it heal? I think it healed. Comparing
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott to Drew Brees. We have new heights now
Speaker 1: set on this negotiation on talking. Well, think, what do
Speaker 1: you think Dak is man? I mean, like, what what
Speaker 1: when you can do a comparison with Dak, where do
Speaker 1: you put Dak? I mean, if I can't say Dak
Speaker 1: and Drew Brees in the same sentence, then who is
Speaker 1: Drew Breese in the same category? Asks who can Dak
Speaker 1: be in the same category? But we're talking about Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz and all these other guys now no longer in
Speaker 1: the NFC now what we're talking about. Man, we can't
Speaker 1: just keep moving this thing back and forth when I
Speaker 1: say Dak and Drew Brees, like, oh, but this is
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Come on, it's not Kyle's. Kyle's jab in
Speaker 1: the pen. That's what he's doing. He's needing us. But but, but,
Speaker 1: but Drew Brees is not the comparison. It's it's like
Speaker 1: Heck said, it's it's Carson Wentz, It's it's golf, it's
Speaker 1: Derek Carr. This is the going rate for an a
Speaker 1: you know, an above average quarterback in this league. That's
Speaker 1: what you have to do to keep a guy in
Speaker 1: this position. So, you know, and he's got more ability
Speaker 1: or as he's shown as much ability as any of
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that God deals already, I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: Tannehill other ones basically we did last year before the end. Again,
Speaker 1: it's to me, you're paying also for what you think
Speaker 1: he can develop into. You look at what Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: heck made the comparison what Russell Wilson developed into. I
Speaker 1: think that's what you're projecting with Dak over the course
Speaker 1: of a four or five year deal. Um, it's not
Speaker 1: about right now. As he Drew Brees doesn't matter, it's
Speaker 1: what you project him to be. Isamh Well, I have
Speaker 1: not been consistent in terms of Dike Prescott. I was
Speaker 1: unaware that the Cowboys were unable to formulate victories without
Speaker 1: without Dike Prescott. I figured that somebody else could step
Speaker 1: in with the same resources, which then weren't the same resources,
Speaker 1: because the whole office of line was in there with
Speaker 1: with Jim and Britt. But but I was under the
Speaker 1: impression that somebody else can step in with those same
Speaker 1: resources and do his job. I was wrong. I was wrong. Somebody,
Speaker 1: you know, Andy Dawton came in and he did what
Speaker 1: he once he got his feet underneath him, once he
Speaker 1: had a decent office line in front of him, he
Speaker 1: started He started doing the dude. But then you got,
Speaker 1: you know, to the last little moment there, and he
Speaker 1: did he kind of fell off the wagon a little bit.
Speaker 1: So Dak Prescott to the Dallas Cowboys, Yes he's worth it.
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott to other organizations, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't I don't see. I don't see other organizations.
Speaker 1: There will be other organizations that will pay the money,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's nearly as valuable to those
Speaker 1: organizations as he is to the Dallas Cowboys. So to
Speaker 1: answer your question, yes, here, No, not so much other places.
Speaker 1: So where would that leverage lean? Then would that lean to?
Speaker 1: You have no leverage lean towards Dak Prescott if you're saying, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: where would that lean Because I don't really know what
Speaker 1: to make of Is he valuable to us or is
Speaker 1: he valuable outside? Yeah? No, I mean you're asking shit,
Speaker 1: he is he worth the money here in Dallas? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: pay the man. Pay the man out there on the market.
Speaker 1: He'll probably get the same money, But it won't be
Speaker 1: an order to this type of organization, if that, If
Speaker 1: that makes sense right, you know it will be a
Speaker 1: lesser tier organization that will pay because they're trying to
Speaker 1: leap frog themselves into into a conversation of respect. But
Speaker 1: you know, as a Dallas Cowboys, you already have somebody
Speaker 1: here who has a respect of the city. He has
Speaker 1: a respect of his team, Um, and they and he
Speaker 1: has a leadership aspect that comes along with it. And yeah,
Speaker 1: you need to pay him come home to day. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You you you, we're talking about the money.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter if it's Buffalo, San Francisco, no
Speaker 1: matter what, they're gonna pay him the money that he's worth.
Speaker 1: Absolutely Buffalo. Yeah, Buffalo has a good quarterback. I understand.
Speaker 1: I understand. We're just putting that names for sure, for sure. No,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm with you. Heck. So Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a long way of saying, yes, he's worth the money. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's all contexts. It really is all contexts, Yes,
Speaker 1: it really is. I mean, is he worth the money
Speaker 1: to Bill Belichick? I don't. I don't think so. Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick wouldn't pay for that. But Bill Belichick has gotten
Speaker 1: away with it with the quarterback that's been willing to
Speaker 1: take less. Absolutely, So that's what I'm saying. It's all
Speaker 1: it's all about the scenario right in Dallas. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: worth that. You have to pay him that here in Dallas.
Speaker 1: If if you try to say, hey, if Dak trying
Speaker 1: to take his agent went to go ahead of that
Speaker 1: same conversation into England. Yah, it's not happening. It's not happening.
Speaker 1: Now that does that take his value down more? No,
Speaker 1: he's still the same valuable quarterback. However, they're unwilling to
Speaker 1: pay it. So guess what, to them, he's not worth it.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know if I agree on that.
Speaker 1: I think he would be just as valuable in Dallas
Speaker 1: as he would be elsewhere, because I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: we're talking about here, is leverage and negotiation, and hey,
Speaker 1: he's gonna leave if we tag him after twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one anyways, right, I mean, he's gonna get that same
Speaker 1: kind of money. It's gonna go right with what the
Speaker 1: market has to say from a quarterback standpoint. And if
Speaker 1: you're saying that he's not valuable to other franchises as
Speaker 1: much as he is the Cowboys, isn't that the problem
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have right now is trying to figure
Speaker 1: out whether or not he's valuable peer. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm trying to kind of piece together what
Speaker 1: you're saying here with I guess take it like a
Speaker 1: would another team have paid Jaylen Smith? Would they paid
Speaker 1: him at the time, maybe because they were trying to
Speaker 1: get ahead of the curve. Now, no nobody would, Boys would.
Speaker 1: But but you gotta understand, Jaylen Smith didn't sign a
Speaker 1: deal that made him the highest paid linebacker in the
Speaker 1: league either. So you talk about a team friendly deal,
Speaker 1: Jaylen smith deal was a team friendly deal which you're
Speaker 1: asking that to sign. Yeah, yeah, we just we just
Speaker 1: we just gonna agree to disagree on this one. I just,
Speaker 1: I just I just I just don't think. I think
Speaker 1: when you talk about is somebody worth it? Right, when
Speaker 1: you just take that broad spectrum question right there, that
Speaker 1: that value has to be equal amongst every organization, right
Speaker 1: would would be what would every organization pay this for
Speaker 1: that quarterback? And I don't think you I don't think
Speaker 1: we can undoutly say yes. I don't I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think we can say yes. I think I think
Speaker 1: New England would be giddy to have a chance at
Speaker 1: Dak press guy and forty million dollars. Even with the money,
Speaker 1: I still think they would be Guinny. They did it
Speaker 1: was right. I know Cam Newton's money was nowhere twenty dollars.
Speaker 1: I know it wasn't close to forty million. Dollars. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying it worked out that way whenever they went
Speaker 1: and got a big man Homer MVP, and they went
Speaker 1: and grabbed Cam Newton paid him eight dollars and then
Speaker 1: he ended up being on the hey on the bench.
Speaker 1: Question is what every organization paid forty million dollars and
Speaker 1: I don't think we could say yes, I think they would.
Speaker 1: I do. I think he's worth that money, and I've
Speaker 1: I've been consistent much like how you guys talked about it, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: I do respect like I mean talking about specifically early
Speaker 1: in the season. I mean, you weren't you weren't there
Speaker 1: you were saying, y Dalton's gonna step in and be
Speaker 1: just fine. I think we're all on the same page
Speaker 1: now that Dak is the guy that is the sure
Speaker 1: as I'll say here here in Dallas answers. Yes, I
Speaker 1: think you guys are both right because I think Kyle
Speaker 1: I agree with you that I think you know he's
Speaker 1: healthy and he's back to where he was, and there's
Speaker 1: confidence obviously that he will be then that he can
Speaker 1: bring that type to every team that needs a quarterback.
Speaker 1: At the same time, I think Isaiah, he he's become
Speaker 1: the face of this franchise. I mean, he's become not
Speaker 1: just the guy on the field, but they're emotional leader,
Speaker 1: a guy that can connect with everybody in the locker room.
Speaker 1: I mean, and he's he's a guy they're drafted. So
Speaker 1: I think it means more to resign a guy that
Speaker 1: you've built and invested so much in. So I think
Speaker 1: you'll kind of both right from that perspective now. And
Speaker 1: I think it's a weird, weird argument though, too, because
Speaker 1: when you look at a guy like Jimmy Garoppolo when
Speaker 1: he signed in San Francisco, he wasn't approven commodity, but
Speaker 1: he signs for one of the highest contracts for quarterbacks
Speaker 1: at the time at twenty six twenty seven million dollars.
Speaker 1: He goes to a Super Bowl. All for all intensive purposes,
Speaker 1: they should have won the Super Bowl. They will one
Speaker 1: Jimmy g miss pat asks away from actually winning in
Speaker 1: milking the clock to be able to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So to say that that all of those things, and
Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from, Isaia, when you talk
Speaker 1: about what the market will demand for dak if he
Speaker 1: does lead Dallas, I just still don't think that that
Speaker 1: has the same kind of weight because you know damn
Speaker 1: well that teams are going to play him what he's
Speaker 1: worth currently, what the market value says that you pay
Speaker 1: a quarterback of his caliber. I do get what you're saying,
Speaker 1: I said, because there's there's a difference, But I just
Speaker 1: that's That's what I'm about to say, is I think
Speaker 1: there's a difference between value and a franchise face, you know,
Speaker 1: like and morality almost because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: and you know there's more than any any of the
Speaker 1: four of us do. But football is a business, and
Speaker 1: right now, that's what is being that's what's happening. If
Speaker 1: this was based on Dak Prescott being a leader or
Speaker 1: being a franchise face and being the mister cowboy too
Speaker 1: with with the four jerseys on the walls, that he
Speaker 1: would have been signed in twenty seventeen, it would have
Speaker 1: been done already. And it just isn't the case because
Speaker 1: negotiations and contracts and all sorts of stuff get in
Speaker 1: the way because the business gets in the way more
Speaker 1: than it does the personality side. Yeah, it's just yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's just so much deeper as if
Speaker 1: people talk about the money in a contract. It's so
Speaker 1: much deeper than just the numbers. It's just it's so
Speaker 1: much deeper than that. I mean, it's just and it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard for people to grasp it as hard for
Speaker 1: people to understand. I guess really what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: if you if you called, if you called Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: right now, it was like, hey, get rid of Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: take on a forty million dollars deck, They'd be like hell, no, no,
Speaker 1: well there and it's bow. But again, but again, though,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's all dependent on the organization in a
Speaker 1: position at their end. It's not so clear cut. Is
Speaker 1: is he worth it? Yeah? Ok, yeah, some teams, a
Speaker 1: lot of teams will pay him forty But then there's
Speaker 1: some teams just like I'd rather take the twenty six
Speaker 1: million dollars man, that's gonna get me to the dog chavanship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, it's just it depends,
Speaker 1: It really depends. Are people. Would people get behind Dak
Speaker 1: like they get behind Tom Brady? No, right, why because
Speaker 1: he hasn't been there and right he's not approven. So
Speaker 1: like if they're not paying no right near or forty
Speaker 1: million dollars a year for Tom right now right, So again,
Speaker 1: I'm not disrespecting them. I'm just saying the facts. It's
Speaker 1: not the same the way that Dallas needs Dak. Every
Speaker 1: organization doesn't need Dak wouldn't be willing to pay him that. No,
Speaker 1: I'm so you're so old now, I'm sorry. I mean
Speaker 1: Isaiah sold me on that. Okay. Hey, he's a very
Speaker 1: good debater and somebody who can shift the mindsets of
Speaker 1: the masses. Isaiah, stand back, our residents champion. Uh. When
Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna get away from Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: Thank goodness for everybody. If you if you tuned out,
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Speaker 1: talk about free agents. Is this free agent market enough
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Speaker 1: symphony in my head. Kyle, that's by far my favorite,
Speaker 1: my favorite drop of the I got it right, this
Speaker 1: love it. The fluctuations of the voice weren't there though,
Speaker 1: Hey yeah it was nah no, that was his ESPN voice,
Speaker 1: that was his basketball voice. That was like a that
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Speaker 1: pass Monday. Monday dog always on Monday. Well, that's the
Speaker 1: thing is is we moved say it with your chest
Speaker 1: to Fridays during the regular season, and now, of course
Speaker 1: we're only on Mondays. So say it with your chest
Speaker 1: Monday is one thing. And we've been saying it with
Speaker 1: your chest here over the last hour or forty five
Speaker 1: minutes or so. But we've got about ten minutes left.
Speaker 1: Isaiah staying back, Rob Phillips, Heck Maharris, and I'm Kyle Yeomans,
Speaker 1: and Rob tell me about some free agents, because whenever
Speaker 1: I look around the NFL, and I'm looking at some
Speaker 1: of the potential pickups for the Cowboys, because last year
Speaker 1: we saw them build via veterans moving into the draft,
Speaker 1: and I felt more excited about the free agent crop
Speaker 1: last year than I did or than I do right now,
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at this free agent selection and it
Speaker 1: doesn't excite me to any extent, especially and maybe this
Speaker 1: is just based off of how poorly free agency went
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys last year with Dontari Poe, Gerald mccaha,
Speaker 1: Clinton Dix, Everson Griffin. I mean, we had a lot
Speaker 1: of fun doing free agency shows last year until you know,
Speaker 1: the free agency stuff didn't really work out. So what
Speaker 1: does it look like this year? What is the general
Speaker 1: overarching look of the free agent market and how could
Speaker 1: potential players shape the Cowboys. I hate to not be
Speaker 1: able to answer your question, but I mean, we just
Speaker 1: spent forty five minutes on Dak Prescott for good reason,
Speaker 1: because again, if they can't get that cap number down,
Speaker 1: it's to me, it's just gonna they're gonna be hard
Speaker 1: pressed to make impact signings. However, Number one, they could
Speaker 1: get the cap number down with the deal done too,
Speaker 1: they're you know, every team's faced with this problem, and
Speaker 1: you're already seeing some cap casualties around the league, some
Speaker 1: guys getting cut to safe cap space, and you know
Speaker 1: it's very possible that guys will take one year deals
Speaker 1: in certain spots and bank on the cap going way
Speaker 1: up next year with hopefully a return to mostly normal life.
Speaker 1: So you're seeing it. You know, I've been saying defensive
Speaker 1: tackle might be the biggest need on this roster, not
Speaker 1: counting and getting Dack signed. You know, Kawan Short is
Speaker 1: a guy that got cut by Carolina, Darrell Casey and Denver.
Speaker 1: I don't know if those are guys that would fit
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys necessarily. I'm just saying, you know, they
Speaker 1: are proven veteran guys, and Kyle and know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: They signed some veteran guys that not work out last year.
Speaker 1: But there may be opportunity to sign guys at at
Speaker 1: cap friendly deals because every team is dealing with this problem.
Speaker 1: A few teams have cash, A lot of teams don't.
Speaker 1: Kawan Short. We could go get another Carolina defensive tackle, Retrail.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, so just throwing out names, I'm just
Speaker 1: throwing out No I like it, No, I like it.
Speaker 1: I just when you said Carolina, it just it brought
Speaker 1: back bad memories. Yeah, flashbacks, And let's say, insanity by
Speaker 1: definition is same thing. Come on, man, you know we
Speaker 1: just look we gotta, we gotta. We talked about dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn has one hell of a job on his
Speaker 1: hands and he's gonna have to feel in some blanks here, uh,
Speaker 1: some spots pretty quickly and Pe, you're right without the
Speaker 1: salary cap answers, we don't know if we can go
Speaker 1: after a Leonard Williams, right, We don't know if we
Speaker 1: could get a stud like that. Um. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: Ken O'Neill, the free safety from Atlanta, and the only
Speaker 1: reason why he's attracted to me is that he's played
Speaker 1: in dan Quinn system. A guy's like kJ Wright who
Speaker 1: has played in dan Quinn system. I think those are
Speaker 1: guys that well, especially at kJ Wright, can come in
Speaker 1: and be a tone set or a culture changer. That's
Speaker 1: what you need. You need a culture changer. We just
Speaker 1: didn't look that good last year. When you talk about
Speaker 1: a culture we had a quarterback. We had a quarterback
Speaker 1: that got knocked unconscious versus the Washington football team and
Speaker 1: nobody and nobody came to his defense. We've got to
Speaker 1: change that. That's a culture thing. You know, guys have
Speaker 1: got to be willing to put it on the line
Speaker 1: for each other. And so if we can bring in
Speaker 1: those kind of guys, then I think it changes our
Speaker 1: team immediately. You saw exactly what Tampa Bay did bringing
Speaker 1: in Tom ab Grant guys like that. But you already
Speaker 1: had to have the nucleus of players already there. Do
Speaker 1: we have that nucleus of players here? Is really the
Speaker 1: biggest question. That's a good point. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this. I'm looking at this list too. I'm
Speaker 1: not really intrigued by much on here, not the positions
Speaker 1: that we need at you know, I think the d tackle,
Speaker 1: I think it's number one, So you know, we've talked
Speaker 1: about it extensively. We need to find a dog man.
Speaker 1: We need to find an absolute, complete, unadulter dog who's
Speaker 1: going to come in. Obviously the linebacker, it'd be nice
Speaker 1: to have kjkjs my dog. It'd be nice to have kJ.
Speaker 1: But because kJ, I could think, could really coach up
Speaker 1: those other two guys to get those guys on on
Speaker 1: the on the right page. M But we we have
Speaker 1: to figure out the defensive line. And I know everybody's
Speaker 1: talking about the secondary. Your secondary doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: as good when your defensive line is amazing. So Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay you can get up, Yeah, you can exactly, Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay if they don't have time to you don't have
Speaker 1: time to throw. My guys don't have to cover that long.
Speaker 1: So makes guys better instantly. So it's more that more
Speaker 1: so it could be coached up. Not to say that
Speaker 1: we don't need to address it. We definitely still need
Speaker 1: to address it. However, I think all of our attention
Speaker 1: needs to be placed immediately on securing some dogs up frontum,
Speaker 1: checking our health of our guys that got hurt um,
Speaker 1: and then also filling those gaps and making sure that
Speaker 1: our front seven is too deep, right, too deep front
Speaker 1: seven right this year has taught us that make sure
Speaker 1: that you're that your front seven. It would just the
Speaker 1: best seven guys, No we need, We need like thirteen
Speaker 1: guys that can go get it and then go figure
Speaker 1: out your secondary. So I kind of want to play
Speaker 1: Devil's Advocate just to tad bit a little bit more
Speaker 1: than I already have this entire episode. But both Hecma
Speaker 1: and Isaiah, you both mentioned kJ Wright and you're bringing
Speaker 1: him in as a veteran to and your words were
Speaker 1: to coach up the other two guys talking about Layton
Speaker 1: Vanderesh and Jalen Smith. Haven't they already had that in
Speaker 1: Sean Lee? Haven't they already had? I mean, who better
Speaker 1: to coach up a player than a guy who should
Speaker 1: be the defensive coordinator at some pointments football. When I
Speaker 1: say coach up, I mean actually be able to show
Speaker 1: them too. Not just not just from the intellectual side
Speaker 1: of things, it's also how you're so Sean. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's no disrespect to Sean. I mean I was an
Speaker 1: injury guy. I face a lot of injuries. You can't
Speaker 1: control it. It is what it is. You can just
Speaker 1: control how you get back from it. Um. But there's
Speaker 1: something to be said about the guys who who go
Speaker 1: about doing business the right way, who go about being
Speaker 1: professionals the right way, you won't find You won't find
Speaker 1: kJ being flashy. Kj's the most chill cat. You know.
Speaker 1: I think he's in He got his little side business
Speaker 1: as he does. And you know he's a great teammate
Speaker 1: who watches film and you know, just doesn't he supposed
Speaker 1: to do. He's where he's supposed to be at. You know,
Speaker 1: you have to worry about him wearing glasses and postgame
Speaker 1: interviews and stuff. So I mean, I think there's there's
Speaker 1: there's just a way of how he approaches the game,
Speaker 1: how he could be super valuable. It's gonna take a
Speaker 1: lot for kJ to leave Seattle. It would take a
Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot, just because he loves he
Speaker 1: loves that city. He loves that city and Bobby. And
Speaker 1: if JJ Watts sighting to Arizona doesn't show everybody how
Speaker 1: powerful of these brotherly bonds are in the inside the
Speaker 1: locker room, then you need to reconsider. So you know,
Speaker 1: when you talk about kJ leaving, I don't see kJ
Speaker 1: leaving Bobby. They're they're just they're connected at the hill.
Speaker 1: Love a good point. I love that. I love that,
Speaker 1: and I don't And I'm not saying what I'm saying Kyle,
Speaker 1: that that any of these guys need a mentor. I mean,
Speaker 1: he just guys a guy that has mastered the system
Speaker 1: that can show you how to play it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just feel like Jayalen from one standpoint, he's just
Speaker 1: got to get out of his head and get back
Speaker 1: to being the athlete that he know that he is.
Speaker 1: If he's going to go back to the mic. His
Speaker 1: responsibilities are going to be sideline the sideline. If Lve
Speaker 1: is going to go to the will, he's going to
Speaker 1: have to be able to close out and he's also
Speaker 1: going to have to be able to cover. Those are
Speaker 1: things that we know in this defense with dan Quinn
Speaker 1: is going to be asked of our linebackers. They need
Speaker 1: an example of that. Ye yeah, no, I agree, and
Speaker 1: I would be down for a kJ Wright signing, But
Speaker 1: I just wanted to throw that in there about Sean
Speaker 1: Lee already being there and kind of put what was different,
Speaker 1: and I agree with you the fact that he can
Speaker 1: actually show on the field and he can actually play
Speaker 1: and has the ability and has that talent level at
Speaker 1: least at this point in his career. Of course, we
Speaker 1: know Sean had it previously to the injuries, but kJ
Speaker 1: Wright could certainly do that, and hey, maybe he has
Speaker 1: a guy that I could potentially find his way on
Speaker 1: the dan Quinn's defense again and have some success. But
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it here for us. On talking Cowboys, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna promise that we're not gonna talk Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott next week, because we're probably gonna talk Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: next week either as a signing or as a tag
Speaker 1: or we're right back in the same spot and we're
Speaker 1: still sitting looking at the crossroads as we have been
Speaker 1: for the past two crossroads as always, but for Chris
Speaker 1: Beam and Aaron Gonzalez back at the star for Isaiah
Speaker 1: stand back, Rob Phillips, hand heck My Harrison up, Kyle
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