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Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Sean Coleman.

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Speaker 1: Wherever you are and wherever you are listening, thanks for

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Speaker 1: tuning in with us. The start of the baseball season

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Speaker 1: is here, and that's about one of the only positives

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Braves, And unfortunately the hints just keep on coming,

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Speaker 1: as we're going to discuss in this kind of an

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Speaker 1: emergency podcast, if you will, but not for the usual

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Speaker 1: good reasons that we do emergency podcast. As always, my

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Speaker 1: podcast partner here with me, Steven Tobert Steven, i'd ask

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Speaker 1: how you were, sir, but a kind of heart know,

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Speaker 1: regardless of the circumstance.

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Speaker 3: Again, as always, Yeah, what's up, buddy. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: say this has been like the worst possible start because

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Speaker 3: there was always like Chris Sale injury stuff that I thought, like,

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Speaker 3: if you were actually dreaming up like the worst case

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Speaker 3: know there'd be something wrong with Sale or something wrong

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Speaker 3: with Strider or Acuna has a setback. So I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna say this is the worst case scenario. But getting

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Speaker 3: your ass beat for four games the way they did

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Speaker 3: the bullpen beat just as big of a question. And

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Speaker 3: then we get to Monday, with Game one against the

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Speaker 3: Dodgers later tonight, and we find out that Jerks and

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Speaker 3: Profar has been suspended for eighty games for for Peds. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's up there, I mean, the Braves. That's up there

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Speaker 3: I guess it's good to be on with you. I

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Speaker 3: don't yeah, I get, I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know either. And of course, you know, in

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Speaker 1: this situation, we know the end result, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: we don't know in terms of what you know has occurred.

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Speaker 1: it impacts the Braves now into the near future and

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Speaker 1: you know, long term as well. But the simple, you know,

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Speaker 1: who is the big off season edition for the Braves.

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Speaker 1: He has been suspended four games into the season. His

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Speaker 1: suspension will be eighty games. As you normally see when

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Speaker 1: it comes to a first time offender when it comes

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Speaker 1: to peds. He was found to have taken a performance

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Speaker 1: a Nancy drug called hCG. I don't know a lot

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Speaker 1: other baseball players who have taken it in the past. Ah,

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Speaker 1: I know that really matters to the Braves that you

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Speaker 1: can't take it, and that, of course is what has occurred.

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Speaker 1: So basically that means for the next eighty games, basically

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Speaker 1: the first half of the season, the Braves will be

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Speaker 1: without Jerks and Profar. Perhaps even more significant is the

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Speaker 1: fact that since Profar is suspended within this Major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball season, he also will be ineligible for the playoffs

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Speaker 1: for the Braves. So if the Braves make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: which we'll get into, you know, on another episode, the

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Speaker 1: point I'm getting at is is that basically Jerks and

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Speaker 1: the Braves were to make it. And the immediate reaction here,

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Speaker 1: Steven is, you know, the hits just keep on coming.

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Speaker 1: You know, when it rains, it pours.

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Speaker 2: What have you.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of Profar itself, a couple of things,

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Speaker 1: a couple bullet points that come to it is, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it certainly seemed that our resources were a bit more

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Speaker 1: limited than many of us had thought. This was the

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Speaker 1: Not only do you get to benefit from having Jerks

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's brutal. I mean it's brutal. There's

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Speaker 3: Braves are going to save about six million bucks. What

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Speaker 3: a whole separate thing. But yeah, I mean, it is

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Speaker 3: fair to question that, you know, Profar had things in

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Speaker 3: and the fair question is how much of those things

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Speaker 3: was tested about eight times last year, and that's normal. Listen,

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Speaker 3: He got tested a ton last year and obviously never

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Speaker 3: I guess we're none of us know what happened, and

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Speaker 3: Tells me that his at least the things that he

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Speaker 3: because of the injury he sustained in spring training that

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Speaker 3: he took something to try to get back. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we'll never know, probably, but you know, he

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Speaker 3: possible that there are things in his profile that are

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Speaker 3: it's fair to question it. It is, It's a thousand

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Speaker 3: not gonna argue with it, because like I've that's how

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Speaker 3: I mean, what kind of guy, what kind of hitters

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Speaker 3: But it just sucks, you're just really I mean, it

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Speaker 3: I tell you what, for people who thought Alex had

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Speaker 3: a brutal offseason for the bread I mean, there's no

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Speaker 3: other what I said, The Braves just had an absolutely

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Speaker 1: And the unfortunate thing is is the turn is you know,

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Speaker 1: Who fills that void? I think that you will get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that was literally his most valuable skill

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Speaker 3: he consistently runs four hundred on base, even last year

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Speaker 3: a little bit, to be fair. But his on base skills,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And and you know, shifting gears a bit, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of why I wanted a timeline because

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Speaker 3: more sense. And then yeah, Fairchild and Dayla Cruz Fairschild,

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Speaker 3: you know, he came over. He just got traded today

432
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Speaker 3: from the Reds.

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Speaker 2: He's got power.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I think he's got like eighteen homers and six

435
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Speaker 3: hundred career played appearances or stuff like that, so it's

436
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Speaker 3: kind of a decent amount of pop. He's a good

437
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Speaker 3: defender in centerfield. I'm sure that's what the Braves. The

438
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Speaker 3: Braves kind of liked these power, defensive guys. That's kind

439
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Speaker 3: of what Kelnick's reputation was when he came over to

440
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 3: was power and defense, kind of what Michael Harrison's reputation is.

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Speaker 3: So you know, it's not a it's not an unusual

442
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Speaker 3: fit for them, but I mean they're you know, they're

443
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Speaker 3: one more kind of fourth fifth outfitter types that you're

444
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Speaker 3: just hoping you can kind of platoon to death until

445
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Speaker 3: Ronald comes back. And you know, I'm not gonna sit

446
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Speaker 3: here and tell you that those guys are gonna be

447
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Speaker 3: game changers in any way or you know, are going

448
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Speaker 3: to be impact players for the Braves. But you know

449
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 3: it's probably better than running Luke Williams out there. So yeah,

450
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Speaker 3: that's kind of all I got on on Stuart Fairschad.

451
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Speaker 3: I'm sure he's gonna, you know, he's gonna get a

452
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Speaker 3: chance to play more than he probably ever has in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: But we'll see, you know, he's gonna get a chance

454
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Speaker 3: to you know, maybe Ramone Loreano this thing and be

455
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Speaker 3: an impact player for the Braves out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of these guys can turn into Ramone Loriano.

457
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Speaker 1: And again we've talked about it time and time again.

458
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Speaker 1: It's it's one of my favorite things that I used

459
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Speaker 1: to love to talk about the Braves, and you gotta

460
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Speaker 1: hope that it comes through again. Then being able to

461
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Speaker 1: make the most of players, you know, being able to

462
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Speaker 1: get them back to their best times outside of the

463
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Speaker 1: organization coming in and maybe doing better than many had.

464
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Speaker 1: But let's kind of you know, go back over where

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Speaker 1: we just what we've discussed and where we are now,

466
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Speaker 1: because I know we're kind of all over the place

467
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Speaker 1: when it comes to order of operations for the podcast,

468
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Speaker 1: because again we're getting a lot of news at once.

469
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Speaker 1: We were in the middle of discussing the podcast. In

470
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Speaker 1: a podcast discussing the suspension to Jerks and Profar, who's

471
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Speaker 1: out eighty games due to performance enhancing drug usage. We've

472
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Speaker 1: already discussed a fallout from Profar and the options that

473
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Speaker 1: are there. We'll get into back in just a moment,

474
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Speaker 1: but as we're doing this podcast, it's just become official

475
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Speaker 1: that starter Rinaldo Lopez where Lopez who many as we

476
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Speaker 1: got further into spring training, we're kind of concerned when

477
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Speaker 1: it came to velocity, kind of concerned when it came

478
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Speaker 1: to him just not being as crisp as we saw

479
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Speaker 1: him all last year. It was revealed he's already made

480
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Speaker 1: to start this season. He is on the fifteen day

481
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Speaker 1: injured list now with right shoulder information. So it seems

482
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Speaker 1: like we've gotten a bit of a reason as to

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Speaker 1: why he just didn't seem himself in the spring training

484
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Speaker 1: and through his first start. Bryce Selder, a familiar name,

485
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Speaker 1: has been called up. Likely we'll take his spot in

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Speaker 1: the rotation. Steven, I know we don't have a lot

487
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Speaker 1: of information on that right now. Your initial thoughts on

488
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Speaker 1: just another hit early in this season for the Braves.

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Speaker 3: I'm about to go jump off a roof. I mean,

490
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Speaker 3: what is happening.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to put you on the injury list

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Speaker 1: for the podcast, Steven, Please don't do that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, I mean, okay, So Ronaldo Lopez

494
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Speaker 3: is now on the IL. I guess not stunning given

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Speaker 3: the spring that he had, the lack of velocity. Actually

496
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Speaker 3: thought the velocity ticked up in his first start against

497
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Speaker 3: San Diego. He didn't look great. Obviously, he didn't get

498
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Speaker 3: any swing and missed, but I thought that was more

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Speaker 3: about command than anything.

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Speaker 1: But obviously nine seven ninety eight, I didn't expect to

501
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Speaker 1: see that, but it was there in that first start.

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Speaker 3: You're right, yeah, I mean it ticked up as his

503
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Speaker 3: start went along, so I was actually starting to feel

504
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Speaker 3: better about it. I just thought it was kind of

505
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Speaker 3: a command and getting sharp type of thing. But obviously

506
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Speaker 3: not obviously he had some sort of issue. And you

507
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Speaker 3: never want to see shoulder Honestly, shoulder and elbow or

508
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Speaker 3: the two thing that you just don't want to see

509
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Speaker 3: on any injury report. It doesn't mean it's gonna be serious,

510
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 3: but shoulder injuries are just the worst for pictures these days,

511
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: probably worse than elbow injuries at this point. So we'll see.

512
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Speaker 3: I mean, here, you know, here we go with Bryce Elder,

513
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of people talking about the

514
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Speaker 3: fact that the Braves did not add a starting pitcher

515
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Speaker 3: in the offseason when everybody kind of thought they needed one.

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Speaker 3: You know, Ronaldo threw more innings last year than he

517
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Speaker 3: had thrown in the five seasons before, four seasons before

518
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Speaker 3: that because he was a reliever, and so you know,

519
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Speaker 3: we had these questions about how would Ronaldo hold up

520
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Speaker 3: after all the innings he threw last year, How would

521
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Speaker 3: Sale hold up after all the innings he threw last year,

522
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Speaker 3: How which Holobock hold up after all the innings threw

523
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Speaker 3: last year? And of course we're not even a week

524
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Speaker 3: end of the season and Ronaldo goes down. So listen,

525
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Speaker 3: it was not a good It was not a good

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Speaker 3: off season for alex Adopolis. I think we can pretty

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Speaker 3: confidently say that. And you know, this is just kind

528
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Speaker 3: of one more kick to the nuts, quite honestly, you know,

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Speaker 3: Bryce Elder solid, I mean, he's a decent, you know,

530
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Speaker 3: sixth seventh starter in an organization, But I guess that

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Speaker 3: means he's going up against the Dodgers. When was Ronaldo's

532
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Speaker 3: scheduled to pitch. Uh, he was scheduled to pitch the

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Speaker 3: third game against the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Right now, bullpen game tonight, sail tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: And then Ronaldo. Yeah, so I Elder just got up

536
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Speaker 3: to pitch against the Dodgers. So you know, prepare yourself

537
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Speaker 3: for that mentally or you know, emotionally or however you

538
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Speaker 3: have to prepare yourself for that. Yeah, it's I mean,

539
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Speaker 3: it just sucks. I mean, this just this season sucks.

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Speaker 3: The first five days of this season have sucked, and

541
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Speaker 3: so you know, maybe this will be the low point

542
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Speaker 3: and we got six more months of something to look

543
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Speaker 3: forward to. But this is a brutal, brutal start.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those things where they talk about

545
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Speaker 1: Stephen where you know, you couldn't have scripted it, Like

546
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Speaker 1: even if you had the chance to make Hollywood script

547
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Speaker 1: out the start from the seat in the worst way possible,

548
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: they still wouldn't have been able to do it this bad.

549
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Speaker 1: But hey, last year, we started off excellent in the

550
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Speaker 1: month of April and that's what kept our head above

551
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Speaker 1: water when we went through five terrible months of the season.

552
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Speaker 1: Maybe we're just trying to get the worst stuff out

553
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Speaker 1: of the way in the first five days of the season,

554
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Speaker 1: then things will start to get incrementally better. Again, that's

555
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: more of a hope and prayer type situation.

556
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Speaker 2: But I think that.

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Speaker 1: Now without Renald Lopez, and even if it is a

558
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Speaker 1: short term thing, is it going to be lingering, you know,

559
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Speaker 1: is it going to affect his overall effectiveness as a pitcher?

560
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: You know, with not only in the back of its mind,

561
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Speaker 1: but could it be something that's recurring. Just a lot

562
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Speaker 1: of questions, And so that just goes back to kind

563
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Speaker 1: of what we talked about so much, Stephen, is the

564
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Speaker 1: fact that those questions, especially about depth, as spring training

565
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Speaker 1: went along, they remained in place and they got louder,

566
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Speaker 1: They got louder, they got louder. The other thing that

567
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Speaker 1: stands out to me is that I think we're going

568
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Speaker 1: to continue to see Alex Andthopolis be active in the

569
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Speaker 1: early starts of the season. I feel like the Stuart

570
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: feil Trap Stuart Flirchild move may not be the last

571
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Speaker 1: move that we see in terms of a trade or

572
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Speaker 1: in terms of you know, Alex and Thoppolss goming to

573
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Speaker 1: get a player who likely is not gonna be in

574
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Speaker 1: the Braves organization for long, but at least can provide

575
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Speaker 1: depth for now. This The other byproduct of all this

576
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Speaker 1: happening is we may continue to see Alex and Thoppolis

577
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Speaker 1: make moves early in the season just to try to

578
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Speaker 1: keep depth in place, and hopefully we won't lose anybody

579
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Speaker 1: else significant as we move forward through April.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be interesting to see what he does.

581
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Speaker 3: You know, Spencer Streider is supposed to be back in

582
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Speaker 3: probably about two weeks. They're not gonna rush him just

583
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Speaker 3: because of this, So you know, maybe maybe Bryce Eldrick

584
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Speaker 3: can hold down the fort and Grant Holmes and aj

585
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: Smith Schalver. But yeah, they could definitely trade. I mean,

586
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Speaker 3: it's just hard to make trades this time of year

587
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Speaker 3: unless the guy is already kind of I mean, the

588
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: reason they traded for Fairchild is because the Reds of

589
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Speaker 3: dfat him on opening Day and you get ten days

590
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: to trade a guide, so you know, he wasn't he

591
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: wasn't part of their opening day plan, So the Braves

592
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: traded for I guess there would be guys like that

593
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: out there the Braids could go get, you know, technically,

594
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: guys like Lance Lane I think are still free agents.

595
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. I don't know. I mean,

596
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: I this offseason taught us don't even try to predict

597
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: what the hell the Braids are gonna do, what Alex

598
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: is gonna do, because we thought they would add three

599
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: or four pitchers this offseason between the bullpen and the rotation,

600
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Speaker 3: and they didn't add any, at least on a major

601
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Speaker 3: league deal. So I don't know. I don't know. What

602
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: they're gonna do depends on you know, I guess how well,

603
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: probably Bryce Elder pitches. It's a tough draw that his

604
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: first game is gonna be a Dodgers. That's brutal, and

605
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough to watch, I imagine. But yeah,

606
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: this I'm afraid to keep talking. I don't know if

607
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: we're gonna get more news that somebody else is hurt,

608
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: you know, before this podcast ends. But good lord man,

609
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: what what did we What did we do? Like? What what? What?

610
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Speaker 1: What happened?

611
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what happened?

612
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Speaker 1: Well, so what does this all mean?

613
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Speaker 2: Though?

614
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Speaker 1: For what we do know, we don't know what else

615
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Speaker 1: is going to come down the pipeline We don't know

616
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Speaker 1: what to expect from Jerkson Profar, We don't know what

617
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Speaker 1: to expect from Ronaldo Lopez when it comes to his injury.

618
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Speaker 1: But what I do know is that it is now

619
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Speaker 1: the time of the chat in which we're going to

620
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Speaker 1: put a spotlight on a certain player. And it's a

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Speaker 1: player that we've talked about quite a bit when it

622
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Speaker 1: comes to spring training and about opportunity and about being

623
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Speaker 1: able to bounce back when it comes to taking advantage

624
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Speaker 1: of making the most of his time with the Braves.

625
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Speaker 1: And of course we'll give you the details on this

626
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Speaker 1: spotlight segment presented by Fandel, But when it comes to

627
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Speaker 1: how are we going to not replace Jerrickson Profar? But

628
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Speaker 1: my question becomes who really is the has the most opportunity,

629
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Speaker 1: who would be most ideal to take a step forward

630
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Speaker 1: and become a big time contributor for the Braves. And

631
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Speaker 1: I put the spotlight directly on Jared Kilnick. Of those

632
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Speaker 1: four options that we discussed, Jared Kilnick, briand the cruise

633
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: to refer John Alex Verdugo Kellenick has the biggest upside.

634
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: We saw him do this last year. We saw him

635
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: step up take ownership of that lead off spot. It

636
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: was for a month. Yes, it didn't last throughout the season,

637
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: but for a month in the month of June last year,

638
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: he was a big time contributor in a time when

639
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: we needed it the most. We need that again. I'm

640
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: not saying that there should be a lot of faith

641
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: in seeing what he can and seeing what he can do.

642
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: But Kellnick, we talked about it. It was a time

643
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 1: to show up. It was a sink or swim season, Stephen.

644
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Speaker 1: Now is the time for him to step up and

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Speaker 1: show that he can live up to the potential that

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Speaker 1: he showed in the minors and for two months in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. The opportunity is even more there there

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Speaker 1: for him now than it was previously to make the

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Speaker 1: most of this situation. I feel the spotlight is directly

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Speaker 1: on Jared Kellnick to live up to his potential and

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Speaker 1: become a reliable part of the Braves lineup.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you would expect, you know, you would

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Speaker 3: think one of these left handed outfeuters because that's what

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Speaker 3: they just lost. So either Kelnick or Rdugo. We don't

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Speaker 3: know when Verdugo's coming up. You signed a major league deal,

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Speaker 3: so you think as soon as he's ready, he has

657
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Speaker 3: to be up, but I don't know what the exact

658
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Speaker 3: date is, but yeah, I mean until he comes up

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Speaker 3: and get some playing time, it's got to be kill Nick.

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Speaker 3: I mean they you know, we spent so much time

661
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Speaker 3: talking about how the Braids were balanced against right handed

662
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: pitching because they added Profar, they added Drake Baldwin. You know,

663
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Speaker 3: they had Kelnick and Michael Harris and Olsen, and now

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Speaker 3: they lose Profar and you know, Drake Baldwin goes down.

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Speaker 3: When Sean Murphy comes back up, then now you're kind

666
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Speaker 3: of back to the same thing where you're just this,

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Speaker 3: you know, so susceptible to right handed pitching. And so yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's got to be one of these left handed outfitters.

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Speaker 3: And Kelnick is the prime example because he's the guy

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Speaker 3: in the roster right now. They need him. They need

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Speaker 3: him to be the guy. The Braves gave up a

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Speaker 3: lot of money last year to trade for him. I

673
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Speaker 3: mean they're still paying David Fletcher down in the minors

674
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Speaker 3: because they traded for Jared Kelnick. I mean this was

675
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Speaker 3: all in response to getting Kelnick last year from the Mariners.

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Speaker 3: They ended up paying like twenty something million dollars plus

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Speaker 3: whatever they're paying Dave Fletcher, you know, so they obviously

678
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Speaker 3: believed in him, very very strongly to do it. He

679
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Speaker 3: did not have a good year last year outside of

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Speaker 3: one month. You know, they released the lineup tonight. Michael

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Speaker 3: Harris is leading off. I don't know if they're don't

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't know what they're gonna, don't know.

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Speaker 3: I they're gonna platoon Harris and Ozzy and just have

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Speaker 3: Harris lead off against righty's and Ozzie lead off against lefties.

685
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Speaker 3: But for that specific role of left field, then yeah,

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Speaker 3: Jerry Kelnick has to step up, and he's got to.

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Speaker 3: My guys just got to learn how to take some walks,

688
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: quite honestly. I mean, you know, a thirty percent strikeout

689
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Speaker 3: rate in a five percent walk rate is just a

690
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: brutal way to go through life. And it's one of

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Speaker 3: the reasons he's never been able to establish himself as

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Speaker 3: a major league player, because you can't strike out six

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Speaker 3: times for every one walk. You just can't. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's just you just have so little, You have so

695
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Speaker 3: little to to produce anything when you're striking out at

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Speaker 3: that rate versus how often you're walking so and my

697
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Speaker 3: guy can take some walks. You know, he's already hit

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Speaker 3: a home run this year, but the rest of it

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Speaker 3: is a bad to look pretty awful, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: That would help a lot. But yeah, the Braves need

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Speaker 3: one of these left handed outfielders in absence of profile

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Speaker 3: until Acuna comes back. They need one of these left

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Speaker 3: handed guys to step up. And Keltic's on the roster

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Speaker 3: right now, so you would have to start with.

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Speaker 1: Him absolutely, and we talk about, you know, stepping up, well,

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Speaker 1: pretty somber edition of the Hammer Territory podcast, Stephen, there's

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Speaker 1: one other player who I think that it at least

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Speaker 1: is a fun way to end the podcast, and that

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Speaker 1: is the return of the beloved uncle Jesse. Jesse Chavez

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Speaker 1: has returned to Atlanta. The one other move, the move

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Speaker 1: that you know kind of was okay, this makes sense

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Speaker 1: that this makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Move of the day.

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Speaker 1: Hector Naris, who did not have a good start to

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Speaker 1: the season for the Braves, designated for assignment and as

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Speaker 1: they brought him back right before the season, Jesse Chavez

742
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Speaker 1: is back for another stint with the Braves. Steven, your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on that blockbuster move?

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00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: I mean, sure, you know what the hell you know,

745
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: you and I talked about I think you and I

746
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: did a show right before the season started where I said,

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00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: it's good that the Braves are adding depth with these guys,

748
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: but it's probably not great that they're still shuffling their

749
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: bullpen to this level this late in the You know,

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Speaker 3: it's like if you were taking a test and they

751
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 3: gave you an hour to finish the test and at

752
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: the fifty nine minute mark you started racing answers and

753
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 3: putting down new answers, Like, that's not a great sign.

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Speaker 3: And so that's kind of how I feel. You know,

755
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: they've already dfad Hector Narris because he looked terrible. You know,

756
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Speaker 3: maybe let's not have a guy who only pitched three

757
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Speaker 3: times in spring training and signed in the middle of

758
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Speaker 3: March have a guaranteed spot in the in the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's probably something to think about the fact

760
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 3: that he's that he came in in the seventh inning

761
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Speaker 3: of All in a one run lead on opening day.

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Speaker 3: He came in a high leverage spot on opening day

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Speaker 3: and then gets DFA three days later. Is is is

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Speaker 3: unreal in a day of unreal things, Maybe the most

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Speaker 3: unreal thing still is that Hector Nurs was pitching the

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Speaker 3: seventh inning of with a one run lead three days ago.

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Speaker 3: Is now df fade. But yeah, Jesse Jovez is back.

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Speaker 3: He's probably gonna suck because he's, you know, a million

769
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: years old. But you know, with Jesse Java is like

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00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: time and space don't really factor in. You know, it's

771
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: like a I don't know what it's a it's like

772
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: a superman thing. I don't know what's When he puts

773
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: on a Braves uniform, like the laws of physics no

774
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: longer reply to him. So I don't know. Maybe he's

775
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 3: gonna be awesome. I still can't believe the Braves didn't

776
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: add like a real reliever this offseason. That's mine. Every

777
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: time the Braves trade out one of these minor league

778
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 3: guys for another one, that's kind of my takeaway is like, yeah, okay,

779
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: they might be decent, but like why wouldn't you just

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00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 3: go get a You know, I'm not gonna relitigate the

781
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: whole thing. I'm in a bad mood, so I'm not

782
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: gonna say too much else. But yeah, Jesse Jovas is back.

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Speaker 3: I know some people are excited. I I don't know.

784
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Speaker 3: I don't know what to expect. He's probably I mean,

785
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: he's he's like fifty years old, so he's probably gonna suck.

786
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Speaker 3: But we'll see, we'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 1: A lot of we'll see a lot of we'll see

788
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Speaker 1: how it goes. That kind of you know, defines the

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Speaker 1: day for the Braves and you know, going forward. In

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Speaker 1: a couple of final thoughts, first off, I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: if it seems like we're a bit more discombobulated, a

792
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: bit more flustered in this edition of the Hemmer Territory

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Speaker 1: Podcast Hits for Sincere Reasons, where fans just like you know,

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00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: those listeners who are so thankful, you know, tune in

795
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: each and every time to get our opinions, to value

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00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: our opinions. When it comes to covering the Braves. It's

797
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: been a frustrating day. It's been a frustrating start to

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00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: the season, and it just keeps morse, it seems. But

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Speaker 1: the thing that I'll say is this is that it's

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Speaker 1: amazing to see what happens when you get that first win.

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Speaker 1: And it may not come tonight, hopefully it comes this weekend,

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00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: but even if it does, it just getting that first

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00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: win I think will be a huge step in the

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00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: right direction where that direction leads who's involved in that

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00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: direction from this point on. Those blanks will be feeled

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00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: as time goes on. But like I say, getting I'm

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00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: not gonna say getting this out of the way to

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Speaker 1: start the season.

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Speaker 2: This sucks.

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Speaker 1: It absolutely is probably one of the worst case scenarios

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Speaker 1: when it comes to starting the season. But I am

812
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: still going to enjoy watching Braise baseball tonight and I

813
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: hope you do as well. And I just say I

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Speaker 1: want to say this Stephen, as we wrap up this

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Speaker 1: edition in the Hammer Territory podcast. It's always a pleasure

816
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: to do this with you. I just want to get

817
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: back to talking winning Braves baseball with you.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen at some point this week,

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Speaker 1: but I look forward to it when it does.

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Speaker 3: A single win would do a lot for the Bridge

822
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: right now. I mean, like if the Braids could just

823
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: go win a game tonight, that would help a ton

824
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 3: They're playing the best team on the planet, maybe the

825
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: best team ever assembled, so you know, I wouldn't expect

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Speaker 3: a lot, but yeah, a win tonight would help a lot.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And we're gonna be with you for all of

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Speaker 1: the latest when it comes to the Braves, obviously, both

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Speaker 1: off the field as well as on the field. Brad

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Speaker 1: and Scott will be back with you, so we'll Stephen

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Speaker 1: and I throughout the week breaking down the Braves matchup

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Speaker 1: against the Dodgers. Make no mistake about it, Yes, the

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Speaker 1: Braves are going to be without pro far Unfortunately they're

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Speaker 1: going to be without low PiZZ. But this is clearly

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Speaker 1: two of the best teams in Major League Baseball record

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Speaker 1: to the side who are going to be playing against

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Speaker 1: each other. Hopefully the Braves can at least get one

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00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: victory and then we could head back to Atlanta and

839
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Speaker 1: really get this season started on the foot that we

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00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: had all hope to start it on last week. Before

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Speaker 1: all the latest, we will be with you here on

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Speaker 1: the Hammer Territory podcast, part of the Foul Territory family

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Speaker 1: of podcasts. You can find myself and Steven at stats

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Speaker 1: as well as Foul Territory Stephen, anything else from you.

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Speaker 3: Sir, nobody get hurt. Let's just try to get through

848
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: the game without anybody getting hurt and nobody being suspended

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00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 3: for pd use. Let's you know, the bar is pretty

850
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 3: low right now, so I'm not looking for a win.

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Speaker 3: Let's just get through the game with no one getting

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00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: hurt and no one being suspended. If we could do that,

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Speaker 3: then it might be a step in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna not I don't have any wood around,

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00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna knock on the nearest piece of wood

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00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: that I can find. The great thing about hitting rock

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Speaker 1: bottom is the only way that you can go is up.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully that's where we are so far as this season goes,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be better off forward as the season progresses.

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Speaker 1: K Steven Tolbert, my name is Sean Coleman. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you again soon here on the Hammer Territory Podcast.