1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Ladies, you want experience during your football season, We'll buckle up. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Sweet cheeks. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: We've got all the experience in the world. 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 3: This is I want your flex. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: With Dan Byer and Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: down everything you need to set your line ups, from 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: position rankings to starts and sits. The guys help you 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: make those hard decisions. And now let's get your flexod 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 4: All right, even if things are falling from the ceiling, 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 4: I still think at and T Stadium shows good on TV. 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 4: Mike may be the only thing the Cowboys have going 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 4: for them. Welcome man, it is I want your flex. 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 4: Get Mike at the Swollen Dome. You can find me 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 4: at Dan Bayer on Fox. Ian Roddy is the executive producer. 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 4: You can find him at Ian Roddy Underscore a Blue Sky. Yeah, 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 4: let's do it. Uh, Danbyer dot Besky dot Social Mike 18 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 4: You on the train? 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 5: Okay, there it is. 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: I have all of one follower and it's you know. 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 5: Usual boy, Ian Ian. Are you on the on the 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 5: train yet? 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: No? 24 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 6: I haven't yet, but I know that I do need 25 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 6: to jump on the wave because like we talked about 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 6: on last week. So I need to get the Ian 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 6: Roddy before that British guy got. 28 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: British. 29 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 4: The great thing about the conversation last week was I 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 4: went into my search bar again and it said Ian Roddy, 31 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: and that guy's face was looking right at me. Because 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: that that's what we talked about. Is Ian said he 33 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: had his Twitter handle, not stolen from him, just somebody 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: got it first, but the British Ian Roddy. So you 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 4: may want to get on that, uh for for Blue 36 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 4: Sky before it takes over. All right, let's talk about 37 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 4: that Monday night affair. We don't have to spend a 38 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: ton of time on it, but we usually do it 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: here on this podcast. All I'm going to say this 40 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: about the Dallas Cowboys, and it has nothing to do 41 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: with their stadium. Already, got that out of the way. 42 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: I have Ceedee Lamb in a league. I have Ceede Lamb. 43 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 5: We spent a hold over, and I think sometimes we 44 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 5: have holdovers. 45 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: You have this relationship, you feel this special bond with 46 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: that player more so than other players on your team. 47 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: But even I was getting sick of Ceedee Lamb complaining 48 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 4: every time Cooper Rush didn't throw the ball to him, 49 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 4: and I just think or near him, or have it 50 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 4: in the right spot, and I just think it's so counterproductive. 51 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: I don't know what fantasy advice Mike we could give 52 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: with the Dallas Cowboys. I just thought it was a 53 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: bad look for a team that's got enough problems on 54 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 4: their hand. Making their backup quarterback look like he's even 55 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: more incompetent than what he has to deal with on 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: offense is a bad look for Ceedee Lamb, there's my 57 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 4: cowboy take. 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: No, it's one hundred percent right, But what do we 59 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: always say? Squeaky wheel gets the grease whatever else and 60 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: targets you know, but that's shit, right, Still eight for 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: ninety three. He just didn't like the ones he didn't 62 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: get Dan, especially when Cooper Rush throws the ball fifty 63 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: five times, that means that's forty times he didn't throw 64 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: it towards CD and Anger even completed a four yard 65 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: nice catch. Nice tackle by Mechi by the way, hopefully 66 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: you know, if you have idp leagues, you make sure 67 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: you get that asterisk in that point for your tackle. 68 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: But all of that to say, yeah, it's it's the 69 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: frustrations just blowing and over I say, blowing over. And 70 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: it's kind of funny, be given the winds are being 71 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: blamed for the destruction of Jerry's palace. There high winds. 72 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: They had a big storm early in the morning. So 73 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: whoever the hell then decided, Hey, let's open the roof 74 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: after all of that, what'd you think it was just 75 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 2: gonna be everything blew away? 76 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a nice. 77 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: Clear day, no problems, problems that you probably should have 78 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: checked your your ceiling and the mechanism and everything, you know, 79 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: routine maintenance every six months. But that being said, for 80 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: cd LAMB, target count's going to be there. Sonity. All 81 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: we can speak to I think here is opportunity. I 82 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: was talking to about this, you know, with another member 83 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: that was on the checklist right for this week, Ricodowdell 84 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: as a potential sleeper after he got the dreaded vote 85 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: of confidence as the starter. Well, he still touched the 86 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: ball what twelve times? That's all I can That's all 87 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: I can say is you got twelve opportunities. Now, the 88 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: fact that he literally could have just fallen forward and 89 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: achieved the same level of confidence that he did against 90 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: the Texans, I can't predict that but all I I 91 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: I can say is opportunity is gonna be there. As 92 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: per CD LAMB owners turn off the the post games. 93 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe don't watch, Maybe don't watch, be like be 94 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: like a lot of gamblers. I like the lines I 95 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: did my algorithm. Here's what it spit out in terms 96 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: of what I should bet and go do something else, 97 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: because otherwise you're gonna watch it, You're gonna be mad. 98 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 5: I think. 99 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 4: I think if here's someone like me and and you 100 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: have CD LAMB and you got eight for ninety three, 101 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 4: that's about what you can ask for. Because even getting 102 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 4: in the end zone right now, it's difficult for the 103 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys. 104 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 5: The way that it is so like a. 105 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 4: Statline like that isn't isn't shouldn't be frustrating for you. 106 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 4: But when I see Ceedee Lamb on every single pass 107 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: do something and it's not, it's that almost like whiny teenager, 108 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 4: it just looks very immature, like come on, or like 109 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 4: we obviously see the passes five yards off the mark 110 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 4: or Cooper Rush was running for his life. I just 111 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: think it's a bad look. Smallest, smallest of the Cowboys problems. 112 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: By the way, I actually think the stadium deal, And 113 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 4: to your point, Mike, is more indicative and representative of 114 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: how the Cowboys actually are run and where you have 115 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: this great, beautiful facility that Jerry Jones was just bragging 116 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: about a couple of weeks ago, and what do we have, Well, 117 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: we have people who can't see thee lamb can't see 118 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: because it's in the sun. Now you have tiles falling 119 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: from the roof, one that you really haven't opened in 120 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 4: the last what year, two two years? 121 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the door's October thirtieth, so too. 122 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: So you know here you decide to do that, and 123 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 4: it's like you see this beautiful what you think is 124 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 4: a palace, and then there's just problems everywhere. And that's 125 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: what I think the Dallas Cowboys are. You still have 126 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: the name brand, but when you even just start looking 127 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 4: on the surface, you see problems, and as you get 128 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: deeper in, there's more problems. And I think it's very 129 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 4: representative of who the Dallas Cowboys are right now. 130 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: One hundred percent eye on the prize facade. And when 131 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: it's printing money, you're not looking underneath the hood, right 132 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: If a business is still making money, you're not necessarily 133 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: going to look at where there are inefficiencies, where there's redundancy, 134 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: all of those things, unless you got to be truly 135 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: you know, responsive to shareholders whatever, and then and then 136 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 2: maybe there's a whole other in But for Jerry Jones, 137 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: NFL continues to grow, his pockets continue to get lined. 138 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: People are showing up and paying money hand over fist. 139 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: I think the number of empty seats they had on 140 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: Monday night might also be something that will stick with 141 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: him as much as the point differentials and home losses 142 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: or that you know, sad fluttering piece of metal that 143 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: looked like the damn thing from Forrest Gump. Dude, when 144 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: the feathers started flying out. Dude, you know all that. 145 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: So that that's where we're at for him, right because 146 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: in the post game he's being asked about point differentials, 147 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: home losses, home no shows, and he sounds like a sullen, 148 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: beaten man. But then you're able to give him the 149 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: one two combination and come over the top about the 150 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: stadium falling apart. I mean, now you've just cut him 151 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: to the quick, because you know it just goes to 152 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: a pt Barnum like effect. 153 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: I'm going to say this about the Dallas Cowboys, I'm 154 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: going to read you a list then we'll get some 155 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 4: Texans fantasy stuff in a second. Because i was watching 156 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 4: the game and I'm thinking about it, and I'm like, like, 157 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: how did it? How did it get this bad? Because 158 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 4: let's be honest, they struck it rich when they drafted 159 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: Dac when he did and then turned out to be 160 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: the quarterback that he was. Whether you like him or not, 161 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: it was a successful draft pick. And so then I 162 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: started to think of, you know, the Cowboys. I saw, 163 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: you know, Zach Martin got hurt and he's been dealing 164 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: with injuries as of late, and he's no doubt on 165 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: the back end of his career. But I'm like, Zach 166 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: Martin was a really good pick by them in the 167 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: draft when. 168 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 5: He was picked. 169 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 4: So dating back to twenty ten, they took Dez Bryant 170 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 4: in the first round. That was a pick that worked out. 171 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: Tyron Smith was their first round pick in twenty eleven. 172 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 4: That worked out well. Claybourne, the corner from LSU, probably 173 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 4: didn't work out, but then you had Travis Frederick. I 174 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: think that worked out until his career was cut short. 175 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: Zach Martin that worked out. Byron Joe was great for them, 176 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: and then he left for Miami via free agency. Ezekiel 177 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 4: Elliott was the twenty sixteen first round pick. Taco Charlton 178 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 4: was their first round pick out of Michigan in twenty 179 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: seventeen that didn't work out. Layton Vanderesh was their first 180 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: round pick in twenty eighteen, but that was mixed on 181 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: him because they gad potential but then injuries ended. 182 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: Up coming good years. 183 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I mean it wasn't a long flash, but yeah, 184 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: and he gave you some big moments. 185 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 186 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: I think they chared the pick to Oakland for Amari 187 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 4: Cooper in twenty nineteen, Ceedee Lamb in twenty twenty, Micah 188 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 4: Parsons in twenty twenty one, Tyler Smith in twenty twenty two, 189 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: Mayzee Smith last year hasn't been great and Tyler got Mike. 190 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 4: They've hit on a lot of these first round picks. 191 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there and that's over the last fourteen years. 192 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: And obviously des Bryant's not in the league anymore, and 193 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 4: some of the names that I mentioned have moved on. 194 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 4: But they've hit on these picks, and for some reason, 195 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 4: they still haven't been able to build anything underneath it 196 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: or a R. But I couldn't even pick look at 197 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: the draft to be like, you know what, they've really 198 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 4: kind of messed this thing up, because they haven't. They've 199 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 4: They've probably had a better track record than all of 200 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: our favorite teams. So it was just crazy to me 201 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 4: in thinking back at it. 202 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: No, because it's interesting, right because even if you go 203 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: before Dak, you look at his predecessor, Romo was undrafted. Yeah, 204 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: for all that, all the hate and vitriol that he gets, 205 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: Like this guy was an undrafted player out of Eastern 206 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: Illinois and went on to the career that he did. So, like, 207 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: they've been able to find talent in spots, and that's 208 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: the curiosity, right is the first round when we always 209 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: talk about, well, you may not win your fantasy league 210 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: in a first round, but you could lose it. Here 211 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: for the Cowboys, they've they've hit. I mean, how many 212 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 2: of those are you saying either as an incomplete or 213 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 2: a fail two? Yeah, I mean otherwise all of these 214 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: guys became pretty long term starters, and you could say 215 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 2: stars then you decide, you know what grade star they are. 216 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: So no pun intended with the Dallas Star of course, 217 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: but the rest of the roster process for this year, 218 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: it was the all in and still was trying. We 219 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: were trying to parse that out in the off season. 220 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: How much of this would have been solved if you 221 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: had a reasonable running back. 222 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's no. 223 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: Disrespect to the guys that are battling and what they 224 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: were and the histories and everything else. Tony Pollard we've 225 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: used pejorative terms on air and certainly in the fantasy realm. 226 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: But he was functional, he was serviceable. He was better 227 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: than average. Right, one thousand yard rusher. Was it sexy? No, 228 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: because again, to get to a thousand yards these days 229 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: means one thing, one very important thing. You were available, Yes, 230 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: and that was one thing that Tony Pollard gave you. 231 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: As a runner and a receiver, you could get your 232 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen touches and be reasonably assured of this 233 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: is going to give you some kind of balance. At 234 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: this point, they've got nothing. 235 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: I'll say this, Mike was on the Tony Poller train 236 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 4: way earlier than many people, and they got good years 237 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 4: out of him. And it wasn't until he you know, 238 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 4: snapped his ankle against the Niners in that playoff game. 239 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 4: That didn't seem like he really came back last year, 240 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: and I don't know if that had a I think 241 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: it had an effect on to be perfectly honest with you, 242 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: because he wasn't the same back last year, and it 243 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: allowed them to let him, you know, walk away then. 244 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 5: This year and go to the Tennessee Titans. And he's 245 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 5: doing fine with the Titans. 246 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 4: You know, maybe not as great as he was doing 247 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 4: with the Cowboys, but yeah, just there's. 248 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: He's years ahead of whatever they've got now. Yeah, yeah, right, 249 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: I mean that's really all it comes down to. 250 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 5: One hundred percent. 251 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 4: So when they let Zeke go and then brought him 252 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: back two years later, it just did not make any 253 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: sense and had no one there to replace it. But 254 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: it just it's it's representative, like this team looks like 255 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: cosmetically and on the outside and it's all flash and 256 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 4: then you get into the to maybe the guts of 257 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: the team and it's it's just not there. 258 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 259 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 2: And the curiosity for this game was until the the 260 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: big gaff, you know, and everybody like, hey, lineman, go down, 261 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: go down, you've got the ball. The Cowboys were in 262 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: this game. They were hanging around. Was it pretty No, 263 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: But they were hanging around curiosity for Turpin and how 264 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: he gets used obviously a lot of it on the big, 265 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: big scoring play right eighty six yards of a score, 266 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: three receptions. The loss of Ferguson very early in the game. 267 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: I think he would have been in a bunch of 268 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: lineups today, usual backup quarterback kind of syndrome of let's 269 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: go find the tight end in safety valve. So schoonbacker 270 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: came in six fifty six for him. But yeah, it's 271 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: it's tough sledding right now. 272 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what we had a we had a 273 00:13:53,880 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: scenario in my fantasy league, and this is the problem. 274 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 4: And now I understand it because for years I never 275 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 4: was in two leagues, and now I'm in two leagues, 276 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 4: and I can't remember what rules are for what league, 277 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: even though I feel like I've made the rules for 278 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 4: most of one league, because that's our twenty seven year league. 279 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 5: The issues that I was, the issue. 280 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 4: That I was gonna say was we had a guy 281 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 4: who was down like three point eight points and he 282 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: had Brandon Aubrey. So you make this sixty four yarder? Yeah, 283 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: I thought like and I thought in our league was 284 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: four points, but our site said only three. But anyway, 285 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 4: puts him within a point, and then you get the 286 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 4: penalty and the Cowboys take it off the board. They 287 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 4: obviously go for it on fourth and two, wipe it out. 288 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: I wonder if there was anybody else who thought that 289 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 4: they won their game, because you know, Brandon Aubrey had 290 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 4: made that kick and then then had Mike McCarthy take 291 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 4: it away only to never give it back. 292 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 6: Well, remember he also missed a kick earlier in the 293 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 6: game too, so that he missed was like a forty yarder, yeah, 294 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 6: something like that. 295 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: But he hits a sixty four yard Well, the hell's 296 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: taking that off the board, and in a lot of 297 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: leagues that would have been six point four points. Sure 298 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: got as much as a lot of second running bags 299 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: are scoring in the lat I. 300 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 4: Just was thinking to myself, man, because that's also the point. 301 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: And by the way, Mike McCarthy did make the right choice. 302 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: You have to take You can't you get a first 303 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 4: you get a fifteen yard penalty and a first down, 304 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 4: you're in a. 305 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 5: In a ten point game, you think. 306 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: You're I mean, honestly, then if it wasn't fourth and two, 307 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 4: because they got to fourth and two on like a 308 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 4: third and thirteen when they threw past the ceedee lamb 309 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 4: for ten yards or whatever. You probably still kick the 310 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: field goal in that scenario, but man to make the 311 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: kick and then have it taken off just to kicking 312 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: the nuts, just to kick in the nuts. 313 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 5: All right, we need to take a time out. 314 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 4: We haven't even talked about the Texans yet, so we 315 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: will because I think there is a bit of a 316 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: conversation there, sure so much more. He is Mike Carmon, 317 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: I'm Dan byer Ian, Roddy's here Texans, and yeah, some 318 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: week twelve craziness. 319 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 5: That's next year, and I want your flax. It is 320 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 5: iy air flex. 321 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 4: He's Mike Harmon, I'm Dan byer Ian Roddy's our executive producer. 322 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 4: Big news in the NFL on Monday coming from the Giants, 323 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: a quarterback change being made. We'll talk about that in 324 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 4: a second, but we were going to touch on the 325 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: Houston Texans, the Stefan Diggs less. But now you have 326 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: Nico Collins Houston Texans. Tank Dell's there, Robert Woods is there, 327 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: Mechi's there. But maybe most importantly for CJ. Straud is 328 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: that Joe Mixon is there. Because the hat trick on 329 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: Monday night, Mike, and Joe Mixon seems like a whole 330 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: new football player with the Houston Texans. 331 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: To one of the few things I'll take credit for 332 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: on the scorecard. He was number one at running back, 333 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: Yes he was, and he dominated. 334 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: And you had Nico Collins at number one, and he 335 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: may have been somewhat close to that first touchdown was 336 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 4: not wiped off on the first play? 337 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: You do mean when they had two hundred and fifty 338 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,479 Speaker 2: yards of offense to score seven points. No, obviously I exaggerate, 339 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: but yes, it's curious, right, So Joe Mixon having his time. 340 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 3: We know the cost to bring him there was minuscule. 341 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: We were talking about draft evaluations, trades, all those kind 342 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: of things, just you know, a bucket of balls, more 343 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: or less. And now you look at the year, he's 344 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: having touchdowns every time he hits the field. In this one, 345 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if you stayed and watched till the end, Dan, 346 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: with four minutes left, he was doing a meet and 347 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: greet in the end zone, literally shaking hands, taking selfies. 348 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 2: There's still about three minutes fifty seconds on the clock 349 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: after his third touchdown run. So all of that to say, 350 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: a guy obviously having a lot of fun. Contrasts that 351 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: to his former team and that long slow walk and 352 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 2: the thousand yard stare of Joe Burrow after that loss 353 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: to the Chargers. You want to talk about everything going 354 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: and coming up roses for Joe Mixon right now, He's 355 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: just been fantastic. And that's with questions about the offensive line. 356 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: You know what a great running back can make all 357 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: of those disappear real fast. 358 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 6: You know, With how close the Bengals games have been, 359 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 6: I wonder if Joe Mixon would would honestly make the 360 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 6: difference for them this year. 361 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 2: But that's the thing, right, I mean, McPherson kicks. 362 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: It's interesting, what do we have four. 363 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: Different instances of close games where he's had an issue 364 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: and while they've had pretty good success with their run 365 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: game and Brown's a player, I think we can all 366 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: agree to that. Yeah, would that margin be different if 367 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: old Joe Mixon. I keep wanting to call Mojo Nixon, 368 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: but that's a music act, and you know I'll send 369 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: folks down that rabble another time. 370 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say no. 371 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 4: The reason being is, do you know how many in 372 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: since you posed the question, do you know how many 373 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: one hundred yard games Jill Mixon had with the Bengals last. 374 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: Year, he had did he have any? 375 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 4: He had one one? It was the final week of 376 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: the season against Cleveland in a game that for the 377 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 4: Bengals didn't matter, they weren't going to the playoffs, and 378 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 4: he ends up with fourteen carries one hundred and eleven yards, 379 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: you know when over the Cleveland Browns, who didn't care 380 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 4: about the game either. So the maybe I can't remember 381 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: the playoffs Innreio with the Bengals obviously didn't make the 382 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 4: playoffs last year. Point being is he had won this 383 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 4: year with the Houston Texans. I think it's been every 384 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 4: game but about two, and I know he was dinged 385 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 4: up for a couple of them, but I mean it's 386 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 4: he's a different guy, and I actually think that number one, 387 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 4: it's the team. And yet in the games that he's played, 388 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 4: he's only he has not gone over one hundred yards twice. 389 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 4: It was against the Lions, had forty six yards and 390 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: then against Mike yar Bears in Week two, but he 391 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 4: also got hurt in that game. 392 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: But even in that game against Detroit, still finished with 393 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: ninety total yards. Yeah, well for two catches forty four 394 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: yards and scored. So he's scored in every game except 395 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 2: the Bears. That's when they heard him early in that game. 396 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: Remember the hip drop tackle that took him down. Yeah, 397 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: so there you go. That's how you stopped Joe Mixon 398 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. 399 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 4: So my point is is, I think that him not 400 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 4: going back to Cincinnati, and it felt like that was 401 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: kind of destined to happen anyway when he was there 402 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 4: last year, that his stay wasn't going to be long, 403 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 4: and so maybe there's a bit of a resurgence. I 404 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 4: think Cincinnati, he's still got some problems of their own. 405 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 4: Maybe it would it takes some a load off that 406 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 4: defense because they've got nothing this year in Cincinnati on 407 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: that side of the ball. But I just the Texans 408 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: have been searching for a guy for so long and 409 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 4: now they finally got somewhat of a running game and 410 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 4: it's in the former Joe Mixon. I think he had 411 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: something to prove. So I don't think he has something 412 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 4: to prove if he's back in Cincinnati. That's just my 413 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: two cents. 414 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 5: There you go. 415 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's he's rolling the Do you have concerns 416 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: about CJ. 417 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 5: Stroud? 418 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 4: Oh? 419 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, two touchdowns in five weeks. 420 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 5: Hell yeah, yeah. 421 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: Now part of that is obviously the presence of Mixing, 422 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: so you're you're gonna you know, it's the yin and 423 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 2: the yang, and he doesn't run a ton, so it's 424 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: not like he's gonna with the exception of that game 425 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 2: against the Jets where he had the fifty nine yards, 426 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: he's not a guy that's gonna take off and call 427 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: his own number and certainly in and around the goal line. 428 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: And this is the good, the bad, the ugly when 429 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: it comes to having a guy like Mixing on your 430 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: squad is that he does everything. 431 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: So you're not. 432 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: Taking him off the field in short yardage. You're not 433 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: taking him off field and passing downs. He's a guy 434 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: that you can run and defenses have to try to 435 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: figure out exactly how you're gonna deploy him, which is great. 436 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: So you're not getting any of the rushing touchdowns that 437 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 2: you might you know, even goal line plunges you know, 438 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: brotherly shove like products. But yeah, so you're not even 439 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: getting those savers. So two in five weeks. 440 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 4: Dan I gosh, the Stefan Diggs injury hurts, But again 441 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 4: there's something about you know him and tank down not 442 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 4: on the right page, Dalton Schultz that thought maybe Wou'd 443 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: be a little bit more of a factor. But there 444 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 4: is something going on. But thank goodness for Joe Mixon. 445 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 4: And you know the other mixing thing the speed that 446 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 4: he showed, you know, just on you know, on his 447 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 4: first touchdown, on the separation. He knew that he had power, 448 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 4: but the ability to separate. And I did not see 449 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: the third touchdown because I had to give a three 450 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 4: year old the bath who didn't want to take a bath. 451 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 4: So if you think the Cowboys defense had their handful 452 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 4: hands full on Monday night, yeah, try my shoes. 453 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 2: Well, I mean you still have his zone. I mean 454 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: you still have a two on one advantage. 455 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 5: Yes, that's true. 456 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: Well in theory, so did they had eleven on one 457 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 2: once he got to the open field. They couldn't catch him. 458 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: Joe Mixon, not your son, although I'm sure your son 459 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: in the open field is a handful. But yeah, for CJ. Stroud, like, 460 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: it's just questions we've been asking. I think along the 461 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: way right, the the up and down nature of the 462 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 2: offense part of it, digs part of it. Dell, certainly 463 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: Nicocollins came out like a house of fire early in 464 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: the season, and then he was gone. So they've weathered 465 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: some some some storms. Talked about the offensive line and 466 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: beyond Caleb Williams, he's the most sacked quarterback in the league. 467 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: And this is where I always love the discussion and 468 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: trying to assess blame in the blame pie of quarterback 469 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: versus all right, coverages versus you know, the quarterback holding 470 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: on too long, right, we get the lot of it. 471 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 2: It's just well, the offensive line is terrible. It's like, well, yeah, 472 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: I think I think we've seen some play both for 473 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 2: he and for Williams going back to Chicago second. But 474 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: then it becomes the alright, is he holding the ball 475 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 2: longer hoping for separation that isn't normally there because he 476 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: doesn't have digs, he doesn't have collins, Like the stuff 477 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 2: where he could do the timing and get it out 478 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: isn't there because it's second receivers that are trying to 479 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: fight through maybe a little bit of press up front 480 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 2: and all of those kind of things. So like that's 481 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 2: securio and missing a couple of games of mixing certainly 482 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: doesn't help things. So like all of that to say concern, 483 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: and he's right now, nothing better than a QB two. 484 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see them for the 485 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: rest of the way because they have a two game 486 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: leading the division. But they swept the Colts this year, 487 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 4: so that's already taken care of. So basically their lead 488 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 4: is three. You get to face you haven't played the 489 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: Titans yet, you get to play them twice down the stretch. 490 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: You still have another game against Jacksonville. You would assume 491 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 4: that those are wins said for the Chiefs Ravens games 492 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 4: that you have coming up. You also have another one 493 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: against the Dolphins, but that's your remaining schedule if you're 494 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 4: the Texans. So yeah, it's just kind of they have 495 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 4: their bike and they have one of the bis in 496 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 4: Week fourteen you know as well. But there's it'll be 497 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: interesting to see because I think that they've kind of 498 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 4: got things wrapped up and they're in a spot where 499 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 4: you're not going to challenge for the top spot, so 500 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 4: it'll be interesting to see how they operate over these 501 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 4: finals six weeks. 502 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. 503 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 2: It is fun though, right, You've got Tennessee next, then 504 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 2: at Jacksonville the bye week, and then you got the 505 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: Sandwich effect with Miami, Kansas City, Baltimore with Kansas City 506 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: on the road before a week eighteen that nobody uses 507 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: against Tennessee. 508 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 4: Yeah sorry, And there by the way, they're in those 509 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 4: in that Christmas Game fours with the Chiefs, Ravens and Steelers, 510 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: or they're playing on the Saturday so they can play 511 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: on that Wednesday of Christmas Day. Curious if that's going 512 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 4: to have any effect or if that could cause injuries. 513 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: But for the NFL to make it work, they had 514 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 4: the smart of them to do it. I don't know 515 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 4: why they don't do it for other matchups as well, 516 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 4: but they're able to make it so that Chiefs game 517 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 4: is on a Saturday, and then they'll have the Ravens 518 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 4: on Christmas Day on that Wednesday. 519 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 5: But who knows, who knows how important those games will be. 520 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think CJ. 521 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: Stroud and all those guys pull an NBA move and 522 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: just say it's a Saturday game. 523 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 3: We're not playing. 524 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones isn't playing. He's the third string now and 525 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 4: yeah a good run. He did have a good run. 526 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 4: Tommy DeVito is now the quarterback man. What's what's old 527 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 4: is new again? Deja vu? All over again. Any cliche 528 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 4: that you want. But now, what do we think of 529 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 4: the giants of the da Vido and Tracy and Malik, 530 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 4: neighbors and whatnot. 531 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 2: I don't know how much of a downgrade it is 532 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: at this point, right in terms of what you're going 533 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: to get from Neighbors and what you're going to get 534 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: from Tracy. Maybe we get a little bit from the 535 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: secondary receivers that have been working with him, second, third team, whatever. 536 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: The fact that you bypass your number two quarterback is 537 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: kind of funny. But you know, I heard the argument 538 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 2: and saw it in the socials a lot of like 539 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: this would have saved it and you would have been 540 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: able to get Barkley. 541 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: He's like, no, I was done. 542 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: Sure like that. That's that's not moving moving mountains at 543 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: the point. But give the fans what they want. They want, 544 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: Tommy Cutt, let's go go and get after it. I 545 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: don't think it substantively changes any of the fantasy fortunes. 546 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: Guys you were playing, You're still gonna play. Yeah, at 547 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: least from where I sit, like the erratic nature, while 548 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: Jones doesn't. And I use this with Smith on Monday Night. 549 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: While while Jones doesn't have the egregious low lights of 550 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: what we've seen from Will Levis. The body of work 551 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: suggests if guys were performing with him under center, they'll 552 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: be just fine in his absence. 553 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 4: Now, Executive producer Ian Roddy has a trade that someone 554 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: passed along to him that they wanted reviewed on the podcast. 555 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 5: Is that correct? 556 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? Correct? 557 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 6: So our coworker here at FSR shay, you could. 558 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 4: Have just said, like Bill in Kansas City tweeted in, 559 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 4: but hey, that's all good. 560 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 3: They in Kansas City, Well we'll keep two versions. So yeah, 561 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 3: Bill in Kansas City. 562 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 6: He wanted to know if Cedric Tillman and Malik Neighbors 563 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 6: would be who he's getting and then Bucky Irving and 564 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 6: DK Metcalf would be who he's giving up. So what 565 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 6: do you guys think? I wasn't sure exactly how to respond, 566 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 6: but I feel like I personally lean towards the Bucky 567 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 6: Irving DK Metcalf side. 568 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd rather have those two. 569 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 3: What do you think, Mike? 570 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,239 Speaker 2: I look at it. I mean a lot of it 571 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: comes down to what's your depth, right, what's your depth 572 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 2: at running back? Because if you're losing Bucky Irving but 573 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: you have another plug in that's a fifteen touch a game. Guy. 574 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: I'm good with it because the two receivers coming back. 575 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: So long as James Winston stays upright, I mean, he's 576 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: gonna keep winging the ball. So Tilman has value even 577 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: with Elijah Moore there, who will talk about again in 578 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: a minute. And like I said, I yeah, Metcalf's better 579 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: than any of them. But I think if you need 580 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: help wide receiver wise, you know that double up is 581 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: not a terrible way to go. 582 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 6: It just feels like Metcalf and Irving are just two 583 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 6: starters for you right there at different positions. Tillman, I'm 584 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 6: not sure I'm starting every week. Still kind of need 585 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 6: to see it from him. But again, it goes back 586 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 6: to roster and you're right, well, yeah, he didn't send 587 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 6: the rest of his roster, so it's. 588 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 5: Hard to who's the best player on this deal. 589 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: To me, it's Metcalf. 590 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I thought too, And so that you know, 591 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 4: so the package getting back, and I yeah, I think that. 592 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: I think that's the side that you lean on. So 593 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 4: Bill in Kansas City, I'd go with DK Metcalf and 594 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 4: Bucky Irving, not Shay. 595 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 5: In the editing room, not at all, not. 596 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: At all, No, I think not even at all. 597 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 4: No, not I yeah, I just at this point and 598 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 4: trade deadline it's going to be coming up as well. 599 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so folks, you want to send those in. Fire 600 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: him in at Dan Byron, Fox at Ian Roddy, underscore 601 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome and uh, what did we have on 602 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: Blue Sky? You're at Dan Byer, Yes, I'm at Mike 603 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: Carmon and Ian will be at Ian Roddy. No underscore 604 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: unless that British guy heard the podcast. 605 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 5: At some point. 606 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 4: And by the way, Mike Ian survived in our Guillotine 607 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: League this week without playing a quarterback. 608 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 6: Hung on for another week dead man Kyler murray on 609 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 6: by and never replaced him. 610 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 4: Blasphemy to Jordan on his bench? Did you just completely 611 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 4: forget Ian that I. 612 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 6: Put in a claim for Jordan Love earlier in the week, 613 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 6: But I thought that how guillotine works is if you'd 614 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 6: put it in after the initial waves, you don't get 615 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 6: them until the next week. So I think I kind 616 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 6: of treated it as a that was just what it 617 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 6: was going to be, like. I just didn't was I 618 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 6: like my quarterback quarterback, but my guys came through t Higgins, 619 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 6: huge game, Lad mcconkee, huge game. 620 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: Oh the rest of my guys pulled their weight. So 621 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, I said, I'm a dead man walking right now. 622 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 6: I shouldn't shouldn't still be here in the Guillotine League, 623 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 6: but I am. 624 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 5: Did you think I was actually mad at you? 625 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 4: On Sunday night when I was talking Oh okay, good, 626 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: good good, I was like, I hope Ian doesn't think 627 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 4: I'm serious with all this. And then T Higgins comes 628 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 4: and saves the day. What do you know? Yeah, and 629 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 4: the lad Ladd had his work all right, Mike Rmon's 630 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 4: going to save your day with some waiver wire pickups 631 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 4: h plus a little bit of what is a Funky 632 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 4: Week twelve? Michael dive into that as well. This is 633 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 4: I want your flex welcome back. It is I want 634 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 4: your Flex. He's Mike Krmen, I'm Dan Byer. That is 635 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 4: Ian Roddy. The trade discussion even happened in the break 636 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: as we were breaking down the trade, the trade from 637 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 4: Bill in Kansas City. You know, the the whole point 638 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 4: about the best player, as I was saying, was DK 639 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 4: metcalf on this. Now it may not be in the future, 640 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 4: but I think it's right now, when you think about 641 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 4: your quarterback, Like we all love Molik Neighbors and what 642 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 4: he's done with the Giants, but when Tommy DeVito's your quarterback, 643 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 4: there's no way that you could put him above Dk 644 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 4: Metcalf right now. 645 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 6: Just can't do it him or Daniel Jones at this point. 646 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 6: Isn't that like that was to Mike's point earlier in 647 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 6: the segment. Nothing we've seen from Daniel Jones has shown 648 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 6: that putting anyone else under center is going to you know, 649 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 6: provide worst really, But it's. 650 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: The only thing that we do know is Daniel Jones 651 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 4: would just always throw it to Mylik Neighbors at least 652 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 4: we felt like at some point. Maybe not as much, 653 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 4: and Neighbors has been you know, in and out at 654 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 4: times as well, but at least we see what Geno 655 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 4: Smith can can do with the footballs we actually saw 656 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 4: against the forty nine ers on Sunday. 657 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: So I didn't know where you were going to go 658 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: with your Gino as soon as you went down the 659 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: Gino Smith Highway there, Dan, I didn't know which, I 660 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: didn't know which part of the fork in the road 661 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: you were talking. 662 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 4: I am, I am all about Geno Smith. I just 663 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 4: but I think he gets a lot of criticism in Seattle. 664 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 4: Well that because again, like people still look at him 665 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 4: as Geno Smith, and the people that want to do 666 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 4: that will point to the interceptions. He's not the first 667 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 4: person in the NFL to try to take on more 668 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: than you can chew, sure, you know, and he and 669 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 4: the line has been a mess this year at times. 670 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 5: He does try to do a little bit more than 671 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 5: he should. 672 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 4: But I'll tell you he can get the football to 673 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 4: the guys that need to get the football, and that 674 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 4: is as long as your offensive coordinator isn't holding you 675 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 4: back like Shane Waldron seemed to do last year. 676 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 5: We saw what JSN does. 677 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 4: He's had a great couple of weeks, and even DK 678 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 4: coming back from his knee injury. I think I think 679 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 4: Geno's the best quarterback, you know, by a long shot. 680 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: Over those two. 681 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: I just want to yell, G G. 682 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, honestly this is. And I said 683 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 4: this on the air on Monday. The win that the 684 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 4: Seahawks had over the forty nine ers was I didn't 685 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 4: realize it at the time, but it broke a malaise 686 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 4: of about nine or ten years of just of the 687 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 4: Super Bowl hangover of the Pete Carroll era of trying 688 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 4: to run it back, and I get it, like I 689 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: like I. You know, they had they had a core 690 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 4: of a team, but once the interception was made at 691 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 4: the one yard line, it was over, like that was it. 692 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 5: That was that was the end of it to be 693 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 5: able to make it back. 694 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 4: They never got back to an NFC championship game after that, 695 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 4: and these last couple of years, as we've talked on 696 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 4: this podcast, you know, Mike, it just it just kind 697 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: of became the same old thing, and there was any 698 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 4: It wasn't anything new. I don't think this team is 699 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 4: particularly great, but for them to take a forty nine 700 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 4: ers team that has something bigger to play for, and 701 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 4: they've got their own problems that we'll get into on 702 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 4: the next podcast, but it was an actual win that 703 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 4: gave me a different feel or a feel that I 704 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 4: haven't felt in a long time. 705 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,479 Speaker 5: It may not matter in the end, maybe they. 706 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 4: Don't make the playoffs, but it was like it felt 707 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 4: like the really first real important win of this new era. 708 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: A huge win. Huge win sends ripple effects and and 709 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: for anybody looking at the the House of San Francisco. 710 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 2: You know, it's like siding was falling off. Owing to 711 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: our earlier conversation, Right, all of the off season stuff does. 712 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 2: Doesn't live in a vacuum, right, it does circle back. 713 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 3: And you've had. 714 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 2: A number of injuries, You've had a number of of 715 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 2: just personnel problems, and there seems to be a lot 716 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: of infighting and unrest and it's all coming to bear 717 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: because it's not as easy and now you potentially move 718 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: forward with Bosa being banged up on the on the 719 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: defensive side means you've got to find other people to 720 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 2: cover up. So all of it, you know, kind of 721 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: shuffles a bit, and offensively, you could see guys are frustrated. 722 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: Guys are frustrated, so the door is open to go 723 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: take it and now it's a it'll be a fun 724 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: battle down the stree retch for that division. 725 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 6: It can't have helped either that Gino did the night 726 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 6: night celebration on the Niners fans, because sure those are 727 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 6: Warriors fans. 728 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 3: It's the same fan base. 729 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 4: Have that done on them, man, absolutely, I will say that. 730 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 4: And Tom Kim did it in the President's Cup. It's 731 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 4: not the same in golfer football as it is in basketball, 732 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 4: it has a has a different feel. 733 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 3: What is the thought of it that counts? The thought 734 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 3: that counts? 735 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 5: Yes, nice to be done all right? 736 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 4: Week twelve is here before Mike gets to his waiver wire. 737 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 4: What's the first thing you thought of, Mike when you 738 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 4: saw the Week twelve slate stinks? 739 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 2: Six teams on, six teams on bod. Yeah, most over 740 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: unders are floating at forty one or forty two, and 741 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 2: then you've got three or four games. 742 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 3: That are on the high end. 743 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: But like there's from a straight football watching perspective, there's 744 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: not a lot of attractive matchups this week. I think 745 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: your Seahawks are probably the final three games that are 746 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: on the board are probably the most interesting. Sure are 747 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 2: actually four because I'll grab the forty nine ers in 748 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 2: Green Bay, but Arizona, Seattle, Philadelphia Rams, and Baltimore Chargers, 749 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 2: like those games are great. The others all have their 750 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: their regionalism to them that'll get excited. But I mean, 751 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 2: we've got multiple games with double digit point spreads for 752 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 2: crying out loud. 753 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's be honest, at Lanta, Buffalo and Cincinnati, 754 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 4: who are three of the six teams on buy do 755 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 4: have significant fantasy factors, and the Jets are on by 756 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 4: as well, so there's at least what you. 757 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 2: Guys, you would have been playing there, I know. Break Yeah, yeah, 758 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 2: you get to take the weekend off and go hang 759 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 2: out with family and friends and not have to watch that. 760 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 4: Who do you like Waiver wire wise? Oh, by the way, 761 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 4: the replay of the Texans Cowboys game is happening now, 762 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 4: so Joe Mixon is celebrating on my on my screen 763 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 4: as record. 764 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 5: Yes, as we record this podcast. 765 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 3: So escalated quickly. I like that. 766 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 4: I think they're going to pull this out. Who do 767 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,479 Speaker 4: you like for Waiver Wire pickups? In Week twelve? 768 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the quarterback physician first. We 769 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 2: still have at least a third of leagues depend no 770 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 2: matter where you play where bo Nicks is still floating around, 771 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: and you look at his numbers over the last six 772 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 2: seven weeks. When you add the twenty nine rushing yards 773 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: per game plus the touchdowns that he's given you on 774 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: the ground, everything's starting to click. Still always reticent and 775 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 2: the Sean Payton with a genius whatever. I'm not on 776 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: his payroll, so I don't have to say it, but 777 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 2: Bo Nick's playing good football. Right now you're looking at 778 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 2: Geno Smith owned in fifty percent of leagues, right, Still 779 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 2: a lot of opportunity. Even with all those weapons built, 780 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: folks have been reticent to climb on board Anthony Richardson. 781 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 2: It's the stash him. I don't know, Ian, you can 782 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 2: speak to it better watching and we watched the Jets 783 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: defense crumble since Salah left. But I wouldn't have expected 784 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 2: Richardson to be able to put up that kind of 785 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: performance even you know, a couple of weeks benching whatever. 786 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 2: He looked like a different guy. 787 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, he definitely did. But I don't know. The Jets 788 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 6: defense has been getting gashed all year, so they're so 789 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 6: quick to just fold and give up when things start 790 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 6: going downhill. So I want to see it again from 791 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 6: Richardson before I'm ready to actually feel good about him 792 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 6: starting in our fantasy lineup. 793 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's there's. 794 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 4: There's there's one thing in like, you know, being being 795 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 4: gashed by Josh Allen and Russell Wilson, but now it's 796 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 4: been Kyler Murray even you know, those those things happen. 797 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 5: But Anthony Richardson led a game winning drive. Yeah, like like. 798 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 4: That's like the Jets had an opportunity to win, and 799 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 4: I bet you they felt that they were going to 800 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 4: win even when they had to, you know, punt it 801 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 4: away and get a stop, and then it just doesn't happen. 802 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 4: And it's like, oh, so this is how it gets worse. Yeah, 803 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 4: Like this is exactly. 804 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 5: How it happened. 805 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 3: They find ways to lose every week. 806 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, at this point, it's it's rostering, right, it's not 807 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 2: even Look, it's not all starters, it's roster. We get 808 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 2: down into running backs, wide outs, we play defense a 809 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: little bit because we're hitting that point of the season 810 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 2: as well. And I know, folks, and I think rightly so, 811 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 2: and I've certainly been an advocate for it. Benches are 812 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 2: getting smaller because they should be, right, we should be 813 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 2: able to go to the waiver wire in week twelve. 814 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: And I get it, some league shut it off in 815 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 2: and around the playoffs and whatever, but you should be 816 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 2: able to go to the waiver wire and find someone 817 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 2: who's at least serviceable, whereas historically it's I've stashed everybody, 818 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 2: and you go across twelve twelve team leagues, and now 819 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 2: with the advent of IR slots, it's a whole other mess, right, 820 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 2: because if you still have a deep bench and you 821 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 2: can have guys in your ir slot that May you 822 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 2: wouldn't elevate back to a starter, but you can hold 823 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 2: them hostage there. Like there's a lot of gamesmanship that 824 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: is allowed that I'm not a fan of. To a 825 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 2: tongue of Iloa as long as he's playing. He's got 826 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 2: New England this week, so there is a potential spot 827 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 2: starter for you there. Drake May has shown out a 828 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 2: little bit going on the other side against Miami. He's 829 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 2: virtually unowned, so there's all your quarterback plays go a 830 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 2: little bit deeper. We look at the running back advocated 831 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 2: for Trey Benson coming out of the bye week. Remember 832 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 2: he had a twelve touch eighty seven yard game before 833 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 2: the bye week. Rashawn Johnson. I think under the new regime, 834 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: you're going to see a little bit more of him 835 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 2: and more balance in the force with Waldron gone Caleb Williams. Again, 836 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 2: it's a one game sample size, it's still in l 837 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 2: but there were things to take away from the way 838 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: the offense operated that there seemed to be some direction 839 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 2: in purpose, even if eber Flues overruled things at the 840 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 2: end to cost them a potential win, So I'll take that. 841 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 2: So Rashawn Johnson eleven carries forty one yards back to 842 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 2: his usual red zone goal line kind of performance. Talk 843 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 2: about a couple of wide receivers, Elijah Moore twenty nine 844 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: targets the last three weeks, westbrook A Keene five touchdowns 845 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 2: in his last six games. Like complete, but anyway, with 846 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 2: six teams on buys, the number of guys that are hurt. 847 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 2: You want to talk Boomer bus chaos, but for weekly fantasy, 848 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: let's go, Dan. 849 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 5: What do they have? Two for one to seventeen? Here 850 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 5: you go. 851 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 2: Fifteen catches twenty five yards, two hundred and fifty six yards. 852 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 2: Fifteen catches twenty five targets, two hundred and fifty six yards. 853 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 2: Quentin Johnston. Again, opportunities were there. Cincinnati, the corners made 854 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 2: a couple of really good plays to knock down balls 855 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 2: that we're just a whisper from being big time completions, 856 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 2: and Herbert becoming more and more confident putting the ball 857 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,760 Speaker 2: out to him. Xavier Legette. Yeah, we're actually gonna recommend 858 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 2: a guy from Carolina, right, seventeen targets, eleven receptions his 859 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 2: last couple of outings so we got him with Tobby 860 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 2: Devido coming under center and play him at your own peril. 861 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 2: If you win a matchup with it, send me the roster. 862 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 2: But wander Wandel Robinson once again is potentially a guy 863 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 2: that we see as a dump off option as we go. 864 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 2: And then I'd be remiss if we didn't get a 865 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 2: couple of tight ends. And in Disley go back to 866 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: the charge thirty three targets over the last five weeks, 867 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 2: and then zach Ertz six catches, forty seven yards and 868 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 2: a touchdown against Philly. I know that game got away, 869 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 2: but over the last four weeks, twenty seven targets. 870 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 3: All we can shoot for is opportunity. 871 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 4: Gentlemen, Okay, I'm going to leave you with this. Do 872 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 4: you want to say anything about the Bears and eber 873 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 4: Flus anything more than anything else you want to get 874 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 4: off your chest? 875 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 2: Well, we can do it here. We can do it 876 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 2: on the Wednesday episode two. Okay, because because really, you 877 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 2: guys can just go to sleep and I'll still be 878 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 2: talking when you wake up. 879 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 4: Perfect, Because I have a real life analogy that I 880 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 4: think I can draw towards what we saw on Sunday. 881 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 5: I kind of take this I will try to. 882 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 4: I will try to and maybe we can work shop 883 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 4: it and see if it works. I really haven't thought 884 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 4: it through, but there's there was a little thought in there. 885 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 4: But we'll dive into it. So it's a perfect this 886 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 4: let's go perfect place to end. So we talked a 887 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,919 Speaker 4: lot of cowboys, a little bit of Texans, a little 888 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 4: bit of giants, and then on the episode coming up, 889 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 4: Michael get his frustrations office chest about the Bears. We'll 890 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 4: dive more into the forty nine ers. Plus there's something 891 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 4: missing in the NFL in twenty twenty four, and Mike 892 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 4: Carmon's gonna talk you what that is. Well, we'll talk 893 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 4: about it then, Ian Roddy, before we let you go 894 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 4: streaming defenses this past week, you had three of them, Saints, Rams, 895 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 4: and Packers. 896 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 5: How did it work out for you? 897 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, so we'll go and order worst to best. The 898 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 6: Saints were the worst. They only scored one point for you. Look, 899 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 6: it wasn't negative, so it's not as bad as it 900 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 6: could have been, but yeah, could have gone elsewhere and 901 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 6: gotten a little better. Packers four points again hoping for 902 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 6: a little better but not terrible, and the Rams had 903 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 6: eight points. That's you know, that's solid for a defense. 904 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 6: So yeah, I actually successful. 905 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 4: I actually hit on my survivor. The Detroit one was 906 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 4: the obvious one. But I said, if you wanted a 907 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 4: play tech, go with the Saints over the Browns, and 908 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 4: they won that game. My points of paluza did not hit. 909 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 4: Texans kept up there under the bargain. The Cowboys did 910 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 4: not my Oasis songs talk Tonight Night game for Justin 911 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 4: Herbert and let them in rushing and almost three hundred 912 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 4: yards passing and a couple of touchdowns. So I'll take 913 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 4: that from the Chargers quarterback. Mike hit Joe Mixon earlier 914 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 4: on as his number one running back. Pooka Nicol was 915 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 4: a top guy. Jamar Chase was in your top five Mike. Yeah, 916 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 4: Jameis Winston, even in the loss, was one of your ninjas, 917 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 4: and Elijah Moore got into the end zone as well. 918 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 4: So it was a good week for Mike Carmen. 919 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take it. The bo Nicks, little Ah Jeahn, 920 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 2: Breisee Hall, Jared Goff at this point, is he like 921 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 2: just build a statue to him like pat Riley outside 922 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 2: Crypto dot Com. You know, I'll take the l on 923 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 2: the CJ. Stroud game, because this is one where I 924 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 2: really thought with Nico Collins they'd come in and feast, 925 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 2: and alast they led me astray and everything. Forty nine 926 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 2: ers leaves me scratching my head. 927 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,479 Speaker 4: Should have had a should have had a seventy seven 928 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 4: yard touchdown, but a lego man downfield just just burn 929 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 4: chef by the Houston. 930 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 2: They really call that more these days, don't they. They 931 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 2: That one used to be is he It's kind of 932 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 2: like soccer off sides. Are they involved in the play? 933 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 4: Well, they call it against everybody except the Chiefs. Just kidding, 934 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 4: Chiefs fans, just kidding. Billy Kansas City, Billy Kansas City, 935 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 4: please don't write us and be man all right for 936 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 4: Hermike Carmen and Ian Roddy, I'm Dan Byer. We cannot 937 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 4: wait to talk to you next time. Right here, and 938 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 4: I want your flex