WEBVTT - Mark and John Bush on Bitcoin, Tyranny, and Everything Else in Between

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<v Speaker 1>All right, welcome back. If you're just tuning in, you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the Mark Mos Show. We're talking about, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>each and every week, the decentralized revolution, how the world

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<v Speaker 1>is changing right before our very eyes. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about it through the lens of politics, finance,

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<v Speaker 1>and technology, how those merge, and of course that technology

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<v Speaker 1>is Bitcoin is the decentralized technology that's changing the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I try to bring to you some

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<v Speaker 1>you know, new stories to kind of change the way

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<v Speaker 1>you see things, and some some of the latest breaking

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<v Speaker 1>news of the week, and some interesting guests. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody um in the studio with me today, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is somebody who has been living this decentralized life

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<v Speaker 1>for a long period of time, longer than me, and

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<v Speaker 1>actively building out the parallel economy, something I've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about over and over and over, and that is John Bush.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the founder of the Live Free Academy, co producer

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<v Speaker 1>of an event called the Greater Reset, which I'll actually

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<v Speaker 1>be speaking at UM in Austin next weekend. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>also the co founder of the Freedom Selling Network, with

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<v Speaker 1>has over thirty five thousand freedom lovers working together and

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<v Speaker 1>opting out of the system and building this parallel economy.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Um last week I did a whole segment

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<v Speaker 1>on the parallel economy, what it is, how important it is,

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<v Speaker 1>how we do it, how we use it, how how

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<v Speaker 1>we build it, etcetera. If you miss that, go back

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to the episodes. You get the whole reference

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<v Speaker 1>on what that is. We'll be talking about it more

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<v Speaker 1>now and of course you can find that on my

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel, Market Disruptors, or on on the podcast just

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<v Speaker 1>search Market Moss podcast. But anyway, John, thanks so much

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<v Speaker 1>for joining me today. Yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know what cool work you're doing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about um quite often, how you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>world scary and it's uncertain, and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are feeling demoralized. I think that's intentionally done so people

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to act, and so people are like, well

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<v Speaker 1>what why even bother? What can I do? And and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm constantly just you know, virtually wanting to like slap

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<v Speaker 1>people across the face and be like, come on, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not a victim, Like build the world you want.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what I say all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>that that's basically what you're doing right, I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're helping organized people to go do something right, go

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<v Speaker 1>build the world they want. I mean, is that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how you see it or what you're doing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, that sums it up pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing activism for twenty years now, and the

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<v Speaker 1>first chunk of that was focused on protesting and waking

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<v Speaker 1>people up about the conspiracy taking place. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>got involved pretty heavily in politics. And while we had

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<v Speaker 1>what could be considered victories, we stopped police officers from

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<v Speaker 1>being trained to do blood withdrawals on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the road in Austin. We helped institute privacy policies for

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<v Speaker 1>these Department of Homeland Security fusion centers, which like merged

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI with the local police. But in reality, we

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<v Speaker 1>were simply slowing the growth of tyranny. We weren't creating

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<v Speaker 1>more freedom. That's when I shift my focus to what

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<v Speaker 1>we like to call to call exit and build strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where you identify systems institutions that aren't in align

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<v Speaker 1>it with your values of freedom, decentralization, bodily autonomy. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we identify those systems, we exit those systems, and we

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<v Speaker 1>build the alternatives. When I say exit, I mean completely

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<v Speaker 1>opt out. So eventually, one day we're all going to

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<v Speaker 1>declare independence together wholeheartedly. But for some people, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to build those systems first so as to clear the

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<v Speaker 1>way for the peaceful opt out without losing all our

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<v Speaker 1>property or ending up in jail. So that's basically my

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<v Speaker 1>life submission is to create an environment where free people

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<v Speaker 1>can enjoy political autonomy and self governance. MS has a

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<v Speaker 1>big goal. I want to I want to dig into

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<v Speaker 1>that as so many questions, but like, let's set the

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<v Speaker 1>backs the back story up a little bit here. So, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you're from Texas. I believe you currently live on a

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<v Speaker 1>on a farm, so you're probably kind of self sustained.

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<v Speaker 1>You got your family. At one point you were, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've been living completely off the financial system

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<v Speaker 1>on bitcoin. I think at one point you were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of traveling around the country in an r V. You live,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, live off the land. Kind of think,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of give us a little bit of a backstory

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<v Speaker 1>and then let's dig dig back into that exit and

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<v Speaker 1>build strategy. Sure, sure, so I kind of I got

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<v Speaker 1>involved with this whole world after watching a documentary by

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones in Austin on cable Access. It's called nine

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<v Speaker 1>eleven Road to Tyranny. And so I was a big

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones fan back in the day, but he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of went a little far right and kind of reactive

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<v Speaker 1>for my tastes. But anyway, that was a big eye opener,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Wow, what they're telling us about

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<v Speaker 1>this whole nine eleven event that's had such an impact

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<v Speaker 1>on so many people, a lot of his total bs

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<v Speaker 1>and so that kind of led me down the rabbit

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<v Speaker 1>hole of researching counsel and form relations, trylateral commission, all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. Um. I got involved in the American Civil

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<v Speaker 1>Liberties Union on campus to push back on uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dissent them them like trying to limit our free speech

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<v Speaker 1>on campus, pushing back against the war and stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>I learned about Ron Paul in two thousand seven, two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand eight for his presidential campaign. Actually got to interview

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<v Speaker 1>him recently for this homeschool summit that we did. That

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<v Speaker 1>was quite the privilege and honor. But I learned about libertarianism,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course Ron Paul didn't win the presidential campaign

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eight, the world would probably be

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<v Speaker 1>a different place had he. But we managed to find

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<v Speaker 1>around nine hundred to a thousand people in Austin that

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<v Speaker 1>we're all libertarians. Some of them were constitutional conservative types,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of our radical libertarians later turned into voluntaryists. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>those are folks that believe all human relationships should be voluntary.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, what a concept. What's that? I said, what

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<v Speaker 1>a concept? We own our bodies and deserve self respect.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, we got we got really involved in local politics.

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<v Speaker 1>We started a political action committee called Texans for Accountable Government,

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<v Speaker 1>which is still around to this day. Uh. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was very passionate about it, and we'd show up to

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<v Speaker 1>city council. We'd actually have legislation authored by friendly council members,

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<v Speaker 1>friendly legislatures in the Texas ledge. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I started to learn about libertarianism, and that

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<v Speaker 1>I learned about this guy, Murray Rothbard, who talks about

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<v Speaker 1>anarcho capitalism, and then from him I learned about Samuel

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<v Speaker 1>Edward Conkin. In this philosophy more of a strategy of agorism,

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionary market anarchism. This is some of the philosophical underpinions

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<v Speaker 1>of parallel economies. He called it the counter economy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so simultaneously I'm learning about true freedom, about how

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<v Speaker 1>we ought to coexist with our fellow human beings, about

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<v Speaker 1>how systems need to be decentralized in order for them

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<v Speaker 1>to be more just. Uh. And I was still banging

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<v Speaker 1>my head against the wall, shouting at government buildings, having

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<v Speaker 1>these minor victories that weren't really even a step forward.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just slowing the steps back that we were taking

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<v Speaker 1>towards tyranny. So I started to experiment with the creation

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<v Speaker 1>of what I used to call parallel institutions, alternative institutions,

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<v Speaker 1>parallel economies, counter economy, whatever you wanna call it. We

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<v Speaker 1>would encourage people to trade with silver dimes. So we'd

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<v Speaker 1>go to farmers markets and talk to all the vendors

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<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, would you guys consider accepting silver times?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know silver and still has that sound money there?

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<v Speaker 1>Most people just thought we were kind of ridiculous, But

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<v Speaker 1>every once in a while you come across an old

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<v Speaker 1>farmer and they're like, oh, yeah, anything we can do

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<v Speaker 1>to stick it to the Federal and Reserve. So I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was pretty cool. But that was before I

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<v Speaker 1>learned about bitcoin. I learned about bitcoin twelve or so. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody told me I should mind bitcoin using my laptop.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when you could pop out fifty bitcoin every approximately

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes, and I'll never forget I. I responded, said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm really busy right now. Maybe I has

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<v Speaker 1>had some time aside to learn about it. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a valuable lesson that everybody should at least reserve some

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<v Speaker 1>brain power to take advantage of an opportunity if it

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<v Speaker 1>gets put in front of you. But when we learned

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<v Speaker 1>more about bitcoin, it really became clear, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>a technology that's very liberating. Of course, back then we

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<v Speaker 1>thought that it would end the FED, but really these

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<v Speaker 1>central bankers are pretty dastardly, and that now they're leveraging

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<v Speaker 1>some blockchain technology for some of their central bank digital

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<v Speaker 1>currency schemes. But nonetheless, this really just started a pursuit

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<v Speaker 1>of creating freedom now, not waiting for politicians to do

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing, not waiting for plus one of the

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<v Speaker 1>voting public to come around to the ideas of freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>but asking ourselves, what can we do right now in

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<v Speaker 1>this moment to create more freedom for ourselves, our children,

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<v Speaker 1>and the future generations to come. And it was around

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<v Speaker 1>this time Also, I had this idea for the Freedom

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<v Speaker 1>Cell Network. I realized that, you know, the lone wolf,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that's all alone, standing up, opting out, saying

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<v Speaker 1>no is is very vulnerable. Well, what if we could

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<v Speaker 1>bring together thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>like minded people that all work together to support one another,

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<v Speaker 1>to provide for our common ones and needs through mutually beneficial,

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<v Speaker 1>voluntary association, not coercion, not highly centralized big corporations that

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<v Speaker 1>are mostly corrupt. And that was the birth of this idea,

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<v Speaker 1>the Freedom Selling Network. My good friend Derek Rows took

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<v Speaker 1>the idea and ran with it, started groups in Houston.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's let's let's let's take a break. Right there

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<v Speaker 1>so much good information I want to dig into. We've

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<v Speaker 1>gotta take a short break, but I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>find out. I have so many questions I've been kind

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<v Speaker 1>of writing down, and you've been talking about, um, the

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<v Speaker 1>opting out and what happens that with that, and and

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<v Speaker 1>and pushing back and kind of what you experienced, so

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<v Speaker 1>much to dig into you. We're gonna really unpack this.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're just tune in, you're listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Moss Show. I'm in studio with John Bush talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how to create a free society. We're back with

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<v Speaker 1>more in a minute. You don't want to miss it,

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<v Speaker 1>don't go away. I'll be right back. All right, Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just tuning in, you're listening to the Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Mos Show. We're talking about, of course, each and every week,

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<v Speaker 1>the decentralized revolution. How the world is changing, and it

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<v Speaker 1>changes for many reasons, and one of those is if

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<v Speaker 1>we intentionally want to change it. And that's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about today. I'm in studio with John Bush, founder

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<v Speaker 1>of the Live Free Academy, co producer of the Greater

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<v Speaker 1>Reset event that's happening in Austin, Texas UM at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this month. I'll be out there speaking. You

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<v Speaker 1>can check it out check out their website. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>also the co founder of the Freedom Cell Network freedom

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<v Speaker 1>Lovers working together. If you're trying to find a tribe

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<v Speaker 1>community people that understand what you're looking at, check that out.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, John, you were kind of giving us this

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<v Speaker 1>whole backstory, which was was amazing. UM, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna listen to your story and how you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of went down this path of being very fired up,

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<v Speaker 1>gung ho about politics, right, super involved, super passionate, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you kind of realize that, I like your analogy,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just slowing things. We're not we're not actually changing things. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you kind of have this like excited build strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>which which you're you're modeling in your own life. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you're working with with these these freedoms on

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<v Speaker 1>network people. But you know, I think about that, um, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can opt out. Iron Ran would say that you

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<v Speaker 1>can choose to ignore reality, but you can't ignore the

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<v Speaker 1>consequences of reality. And so like, um, I'm opting out, um,

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<v Speaker 1>But does that really change anything? Because now I'm ignoring it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not, you know, I can't ignore the consequences,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the world is still gonna change, right. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great point that you bring up, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that we ought to address strategically. So this excitent

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<v Speaker 1>build thing, part of it is encouraging people to exit

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<v Speaker 1>the cities, to buy land and build community in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>to become more self reliant, more independent of those centralized

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<v Speaker 1>systems and oftentime. In fact, we do this Exit and

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<v Speaker 1>Build Land Summit every May where we do just that,

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<v Speaker 1>We encourage people, We teach people practically what they need

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<v Speaker 1>to do in order to get out of there, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where this whole smart city agenda is going to

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<v Speaker 1>roll out, That's where the great reset is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be most impactful on people's lives is in the big cities.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So, a lot of people push back and they

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<v Speaker 1>respond like, well, you guys are that's escapism, that's defeatism,

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<v Speaker 1>it's retreatism. I think, honestly, nothing could be further from

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<v Speaker 1>the truth what we're trying to do. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the big challenges that we have as free people is

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<v Speaker 1>proving to people that there's another way to live, showing

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<v Speaker 1>people demonstrating that there's another way to organize society that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't dependent on government and is void of coercion forcing

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<v Speaker 1>people to do things that they may not want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we're trying to do is prove out a

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<v Speaker 1>decentralized model of existence and then you know, be nice

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<v Speaker 1>and friendly to the masses and say, hey, everybody, you

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<v Speaker 1>should check it out. There's a different way to live,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't have to be this wholehearted thing. There's

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<v Speaker 1>different ways to show this. For example, you can exit

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<v Speaker 1>the government schools and build homeschool coops. You can exit

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<v Speaker 1>reliance or dependence on the banks and credit cards and

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<v Speaker 1>build out decentralized financial networks using bitcoin. Right, you can

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<v Speaker 1>exit your dependence on the pharmaceutical industrial complex. Eat better, exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>have a stress less stress life, and visit natural health practitioners.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all of these different things that I believe

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<v Speaker 1>are going to lead to a higher quality of life.

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<v Speaker 1>And somebody's got can exit and you can exit mainstream media,

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<v Speaker 1>start your own media outlets. And I was like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're on right now, yep. And and so yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not just necessarily ignoring politics or thinking it's going to escape.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's my belief if enough of us hop on

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<v Speaker 1>board with this accident build strategy, if enough of us

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<v Speaker 1>help and start utilizing the parallel economies, then maybe someday

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be the masses will see us over here happy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, playing with our kids in the best health,

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing true wealth and abundance, and they'll want a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of the action and they'll come join us. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the exact approach. I mean, obviously I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you wholeheartedly. And like I said, I dedicated a

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<v Speaker 1>whole hour to talking about this last week, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>running an event here in a couple of weeks called

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<v Speaker 1>the um basically teaching people how to actually build in

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<v Speaker 1>this new parallel economy. I think there's a massive opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>there for people because we we need this all to

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<v Speaker 1>get built out and people want this, and that's a

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<v Speaker 1>market disruptors of virtual you can check that out markets

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<v Speaker 1>up to virtual dot com. But um, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think it's a huge attinuity. So I so

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you there. I was just curious kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what your what your take was on that. Now, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the Land Summit, that's pretty cool. Um, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the Greater Reset. You're doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things here. Let's talk about this Greater Reset event for

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, So, um, what's going on with that? And

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of what's the intention just to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>wake people up kind of what you're doing with your

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<v Speaker 1>original activision activism type stuff. Sure. So, my good friend

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<v Speaker 1>and cohort Derek Burrows, we work together, we work together

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<v Speaker 1>at the Freedom Cell stuff. When we first started learning

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot about this Great Reset agenda, we recognize

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people that are kind of freaking out,

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<v Speaker 1>writing articles about it, watching documentaries about it, and for

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<v Speaker 1>those not familiar, I'm sure most of your audience is

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<v Speaker 1>a where the great recesses effort by the World Economic

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<v Speaker 1>Forum to centralize, to merge biology and technology, basically to

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<v Speaker 1>reshape life as we know it. It's really all about

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<v Speaker 1>capital and capitalism, stakeholder capitalism. It's just all control. I

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<v Speaker 1>could like to call it the new World Order two

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<v Speaker 1>point know, and the technology does exist for this to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be pretty pretty bad for future generations if

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<v Speaker 1>we allow it to fully come to fruition. But nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>we said, what if we put together this event and

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<v Speaker 1>instead of just complaining and whining about it, we helped

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<v Speaker 1>to empower people. So the whole goal is to bring

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<v Speaker 1>together visionaries, activists, entrepreneurs, people that are doing cool stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, solutions oriented people like yourself, and to

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<v Speaker 1>have them share their tips, tactics, and strategies with the audience,

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<v Speaker 1>so the audience leaves with the information they need to

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<v Speaker 1>pursue greater freedom in their lives. So we're not satisfied

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<v Speaker 1>with the status quo of how society has operated. We

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<v Speaker 1>most definitely don't want things to be further centralized and

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<v Speaker 1>further corrupted. So we're trying to offer an alternative to

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Reset that we're calling the Greater Reset. Anybody

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<v Speaker 1>can watch the free online as well. They'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to watch for free January eighth through they and people

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<v Speaker 1>can sign up there and the Greater Reset dot Org

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<v Speaker 1>the Greater Reset dot Org or better yet, you can

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<v Speaker 1>join us in person in Central Texas to see Mark

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<v Speaker 1>there in person along with Alexeck, Jack Spirco and several

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<v Speaker 1>other really cool peeps. Zoobie and JPN Seers will be

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<v Speaker 1>at the concert on Saturday night, so we're really excited

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<v Speaker 1>about that as well. Yeah, two good buddies of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>both JP and uh and and Zoobie. I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to getting together with them when I'm there. The Greater

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<v Speaker 1>Reset dot Org is is the domain there. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get more back into this kind of parallel economy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, this is the part that I'm focused on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's where we have the most change. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>to the point that you kind of discovered as you

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about, like um through through politics were just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, slowing down the inevitable Um, I constantly kind

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<v Speaker 1>of reference back to Socrates who said, focus all your

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<v Speaker 1>energy not on fighting the old, but I'm building the

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<v Speaker 1>new right, and so like, um, you know, being in California,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the school systems here are just a disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you do not want your kids in the school

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<v Speaker 1>system at all. And um, you know, my wife originally

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get involved and start going to the school

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<v Speaker 1>board meetings and she's getting other parents and they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>all these things, and it's just like, what a waste

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<v Speaker 1>of time, effort, and energy where we could take a

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<v Speaker 1>fraction at that time. And to your point, you already

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<v Speaker 1>kind of said, like why not start a home school pod? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then and then what an opportunity. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got teachers, some of our friends that our teachers

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<v Speaker 1>are just disgusted with what they have to teach the

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<v Speaker 1>kids these days, and they're making whatever fifty sixty a year.

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<v Speaker 1>You can grab ten students and make more money just

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<v Speaker 1>doing a home school pod than you could being a teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And and so there's an opportunity to make money,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have an opportunity to change the world at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. I want to talk more about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll we'll talk maybe some of these different things

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<v Speaker 1>that you um see some opportunity to see within there.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just tuning in, you're listening to the Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Moa Show of course, we talked about the decentralized Revolution,

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<v Speaker 1>how the world is swinging from a centralized world to

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<v Speaker 1>a decentralized world. Nietzsche said that which is falling, shall

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<v Speaker 1>ye also push? And we're pushing on that at im

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<v Speaker 1>in studio with John and we are talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back with more in a minute, um, talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the parallel economy, what it is, how you can

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<v Speaker 1>profit from it, how you can change the world. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be exciting. Don't go away. We right back, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back. If you're just tune in, you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mark mos Show of course, each every week talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the de centralized Revolution. I'm in the studio now

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<v Speaker 1>with John Bush, the founder of the Live Free Academy,

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<v Speaker 1>producer of the Greater Reset event happening in Austin January

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<v Speaker 1>twenty second. I'll be there speaking the Greater Reset dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>You can check it out. Um, John, let's let's tag

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<v Speaker 1>more into this parallel economy. It's just so exciting. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>politics is a waste of time and effort and energy.

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<v Speaker 1>You're only slowing it down. Um, you have the exit

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<v Speaker 1>and build strategy, So like, let's exit these legacy institutions

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<v Speaker 1>of education, finance, health, politics, etcetera, and then go build

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<v Speaker 1>alternatives to those. So just like we can exit watching

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<v Speaker 1>CNN and we can start our own podcast or YouTube channel,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, can exit public education and create a homeschool

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<v Speaker 1>pod and we can talk about that. But Um, while

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<v Speaker 1>that helps the people that participate in it, and while

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<v Speaker 1>it also helps maybe um cushion the blow for the

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<v Speaker 1>inevitable collapse that that's probably coming. Um, does how how

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<v Speaker 1>do you see it actually changing the system doing good?

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<v Speaker 1>As opposed to you? You call it escapism whatever, So like,

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<v Speaker 1>how does it actually change create change that way? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my views have evolved in my strategy is

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<v Speaker 1>ever changing. Although I'm pretty sure this excellent build thing

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<v Speaker 1>is the way, right like the Mandalorian this this is

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<v Speaker 1>the way? Um? But but is that is that? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that through just getting so many people to escape the

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<v Speaker 1>one system and then into a new system. So like

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<v Speaker 1>if if I'm here at my studio and I got

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people here and I'm like, hey, you're

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<v Speaker 1>too loud, you go outside, and hey, I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>you go outside. And eventually I kicked so many people

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<v Speaker 1>outside that I have no control over them because now

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<v Speaker 1>they have their own event going. And as it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>more like that. Well, basically, I'm not interested in saving everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I have. I'm a compassionate person, but most

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<v Speaker 1>of the public in this world, especially in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States of America, they don't want the freedom that I'm seeking.

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<v Speaker 1>So our hope is to find enough people, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe enough of us are already out there. If we

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<v Speaker 1>just simply shifted our focus away from the reactionary nature

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<v Speaker 1>of politics and social media towards the proactive exit and

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<v Speaker 1>build strategy. Working together with other people, I do believe

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<v Speaker 1>we can achieve liberty in our our lifetime, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least we can set the stage for our children, or

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps one generation beyond our children, uh, to experience real freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to take strength in numbers. We've already assembled

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty five thousand people, many of whom are working together.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of them are already opted out completely. My friend

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<v Speaker 1>Derek lives in Mexico. He doesn't pay taxes, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have bank accounts, he exists solely on cryptocurrency. So it's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just to take time, and I want to encourage

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<v Speaker 1>people to adopt the long view of history and not

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<v Speaker 1>for not to expect us to do this overnight. The

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<v Speaker 1>faster that you do it with the true opt out,

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<v Speaker 1>which is true independence, which in some cases you may

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<v Speaker 1>have to defy some of these unjust laws, the more

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<v Speaker 1>risk you put yourself at. So I'm I'm after a slow, methodical,

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<v Speaker 1>gradual building of the systems and the institutions necessary to

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<v Speaker 1>insulate us from harm once we do inevitably declare our independence.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said, not everybody wants to go along.

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<v Speaker 1>People are frightened to death of the personal responsibility that

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<v Speaker 1>comes with true freedom. I don't want to take away

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<v Speaker 1>the comfort that they may find in government. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>really just looking out for people that think like we do,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, hopefully we're able to create an alternative system

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<v Speaker 1>that's appealing to those people because they see how happy,

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<v Speaker 1>healthy and prosperous we are, and and that's such a

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<v Speaker 1>that's such a great thing. It's like and and that's

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<v Speaker 1>really I think the difference between the two models is like,

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<v Speaker 1>let me go model this for you and hopefully it's

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<v Speaker 1>attractive enough that you want to join, versus politics wants

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<v Speaker 1>to force you to comply, right, And that's the difference,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we're not trying to force anybody anything, but like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go show you this model that might be attractive.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I would say is, of course I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you on the fact that not everybody wants this,

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<v Speaker 1>and so um Samuel Adams said it doesn't take a

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<v Speaker 1>majority to prevail, rather a small I rate minority. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we have to understand that the majority the masses,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know what they want, they don't think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't care about it, they just go along with whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>In Dr Matais Desmond's work on the uh mass formation psychosis,

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<v Speaker 1>he talks about how, um, there's of the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are just gonna go along with whatever, and then at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom that will always resist it, and there's that

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle. Um. And so you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the revolution of the United States, um, the

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<v Speaker 1>American Revolution, it was a very small minority that that

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<v Speaker 1>pushed that revolution. And so I look at it like

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<v Speaker 1>to to your point, most people aren't paying attention, most

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.320
<v Speaker 1>people don't care, most people don't want it. But we

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<v Speaker 1>can go do this for the masses, right, I think

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.439
<v Speaker 1>we can influence it. But I would say, um, the

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 1>way that I view it is is maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit bigger um in a sense where obviously I agree

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:10.920
<v Speaker 1>with you, but it's not just escapism. Um. The way

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I see it is that you know, I agree that

0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 1>voting at the polls is a waste of time, but

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I do believe the most important vote we have is

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<v Speaker 1>with our our money, maybe our feet, our feet as well. Right,

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 1>So California has a mass exit, is uh, Florida's the

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.440
<v Speaker 1>main beneficiary for example, we can vote with our feet. Uh.

0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 1>Tesla left California. They went to Texas. So voting with

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 1>your feet, but also voting with your money. And so

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 1>what I'm seeing and I'm super super positive about, is

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:38.399
<v Speaker 1>like black Rock, you know, evil empire, if you will, right,

0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 1>taking all these people's pensions and then basically using it

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.160
<v Speaker 1>against them, right, pushing E s G policies and things

0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:47.160
<v Speaker 1>like that. And now I think we have six states

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that have pulled all their money away from black Rock,

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and now like eighteen States are suing banks over E

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:54.360
<v Speaker 1>s G policies and now Black Rocks on the defensive.

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:56.919
<v Speaker 1>Right now, they're like putting up pr whoa, whoa, whoa, wha.

0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.919
<v Speaker 1>We're not as evil as you think we are. Um. Now, Vanguard,

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the number two pension funds that they have now abandoned

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 1>their entire net zero goals. Right, and so just look

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:10.679
<v Speaker 1>at so we have corporations that really affect more change

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>than policies potentially, right. Um, so we have you know,

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the Coca Colas and the Disneys that have gone woke

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:19.880
<v Speaker 1>and they're listening to the Twitter mob if you will.

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 1>But when customers actually start pulling money away from them,

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.239
<v Speaker 1>that's when they'll really change. And so if we can

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 1>pull money away from Black Rock, they'll before so change.

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.439
<v Speaker 1>If we can pull money away from T Mobile, uh,

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>go to my Patriot mobile, T Mobile will be changed.

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>And So I think by opting out, by taking our

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:37.920
<v Speaker 1>money with us, I think you could. I think you

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>can make massive change. I think it could happen actually

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 1>really quickly. Yeah, I'm with you for sure. And money,

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 1>money talks money. There's a lot of power in money

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 1>and where people put their money. So it's up to

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>each and every one of us to do everything we

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>can to live as consistently with our values as possible.

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:59.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of conscious lifestyle design, so becoming

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>aware of what pieces, what components of our life we

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:07.879
<v Speaker 1>are not in alignment with our integrity, And of course

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the type of corporations you to do business with has

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot to do with that. So but again, you know,

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 1>against politics, this is like a culture change that's happening,

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and so I do see value in waking people up, communication,

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>having outlets like you do with this radio show, social

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>media promotion to try to shift the culture, and then

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 1>oftentimes the businesses follow, and then ultimately politics follows beyond that.

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:35.439
<v Speaker 1>But what we're trying to do is like I'm not,

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm very impatient guy. Uh as far as what I'm

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 1>spending my time on, I do see that it's going

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 1>to take a long term, but there's certain shortcuts we

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>can take to experience greater freedom and prosperity in our

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>lives right now, and hopefully enough of us are starting

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 1>to get this. I think COVID kind of awakened a

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>sleeping giant. To be honest, I think they overplayed their

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>hand and now there's more and more people that are

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>questioning things, seeing the E S. G. Sk AM concerned

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:04.120
<v Speaker 1>about the Central bank digital currencies than ever before. Yeah,

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about that, you know, as I

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 1>as I as I've kind of said, and I say

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>every every week on my show, is that, Um, it's

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>really technology that changes the world more than anything. If

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>you look back to thousands of years of history, small

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>little technical technological shifts create massive change. Printing press, the

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>printing press obviously a big one, and there's lots of them.

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can look at even like a little

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>one like uh, you know, forever we've had horses and

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the Roman Empire they rode horses and got off to fight,

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and then they invented a stirrup, and then because of

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the stirrup, now they could actually fight on the horse.

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>And that allowed the entire feudal system to get built

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>up because now a night on a horse could now

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.919
<v Speaker 1>handle a hundred surfs, right, Um, But then fift hundred

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>you had the gunpot of revolution, and now one serf

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 1>could take out a hundred nights. And like that, one

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>technological shift change the world, um, And I believe bitcoin

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>is doing that. But also we have c b dcs

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>and so we have technology, social credit score systems, health passport,

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, checkpoints, and the c B d c s

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>appeared to be the last piece they need to bring

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 1>all that together. I gotta take a quick break, but

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 1>when I come back, I want to dig into the

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.199
<v Speaker 1>c B d C piece and get your opinion if

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>you think that's really what kind of brings us back together. Um,

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you know how bad it is, what it can do, Um,

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>how close we are maybe to it. And then more importantly,

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 1>I think you kind of have a plan of a

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>way to kind of opt out, push back and maybe

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:28.959
<v Speaker 1>stop it. And uh, I've I've made some comment content

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>saying I think this is the battle for the fate

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>of humanity over this point. It's that big. So you

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:35.160
<v Speaker 1>listen to the Mark Mo Show. I'm in the studio

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.199
<v Speaker 1>with John Bush. We're gonna talk about CBDCs when we

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>come back. You don't want to miss it. Don't go

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>away and we'll be right back. All right, welcome back.

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 1>If you just tune in, you're listening to the Mark

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Mo Show. We're talking about each and every week, of course,

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 1>the decentralized Revolution. I'm in the studio with a John

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Bush where he is the founder of the Live Free Academy.

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>You should check that out. Also the producer co producer

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>of the Greater Reset event that's coming up to search

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a Greater Reset event dot org. I'm speaking there in

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.159
<v Speaker 1>Austin next week. And he's the co founder of the

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Freedom Sell network Freedom Lovers working together. So you know,

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the world's changing fast and a lot of

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>us have lost friends, maybe even connection to family over

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>over what's going on. And having a core community is

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>so important. And that's why I run lots of live

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>events because you need to come. I need to meet people,

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.719
<v Speaker 1>you need to make new friends. UM. I've been kind

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>of having this realization that I think we should be

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 1>changing our friends as we go through life because we

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>should be evolving. And that's a whole different story, um, John,

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Before the break, we were talking about how technology really

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>is what reshapes the world. I've I've had many talks

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about this battle for the fate of humanity that

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I think is brewing this decade where if um, you know,

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>we get this Chinese social credit score system, UM, we

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>already know, um that social media networks use manipulation to

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>change the information that we see to indoctrinate us, censor

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.479
<v Speaker 1>us obviously keep us apart um. Then they put in

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>this like health passport system, which the G twenty just

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>recently met on and agreed that they want to do

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.959
<v Speaker 1>this for the top twenty countries UM. And it seems

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>to me the last pieces the CBDC controlling the money

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>UM and programmable money. And if they get all of

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>that together and implemented, which is still a far off,

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's not that far off. If that were to happen, man,

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 1>it could make the chance of another revolution very difficult,

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>if not almost impossible, like this matrix type world. UM.

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about the c b d CS. What

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>you think about that? And uh, is that the piece

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that ties us all together? Yeah? So those three pieces,

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the social credit score system, vaccine passport which was really

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>like a control of your freedom of movement, and of

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>course they're trying to implement the world economic forms pushing

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>this personal carbon allowance, so like every month they allowed

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a certain number of carbon credits. Right. I think that's

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>what they'll use the vaccine passport infrastructure for. And then

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>of course the central bank digital currencies, and I think

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the piece that's missing. There is the digital I D

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that's it will tie together for this. I wish I

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>could say trifecta, but there's four pieces. I don't know

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>what word to use for that. But um, I think

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of it's a lot of problems if

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>all of that gets implemented, and um, like I said,

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been studying this conspiracy for twenty years, but back

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>then it was like, we need to speak out, we

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>need to wake people up because they're trying to set

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>up this new world order. Well fast forward fIF twenty

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>years and now the technology exists to really set up

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a digital feudal system that, as you pointed out correctly,

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>could stop the cycle of revolutions. That's how I view

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>history is in terms of revolutions and the challenge that

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that will overthrow the ruling class

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>only to become the ruling class themselves, which is why

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 1>we need to abandon this state altogether and utilize these transparent,

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>decentralized systems as a means of social organization. But I'm

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>with you, I'm very concerned about the central bank bank

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>digital currencies. It's not a question of if it's going

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>to happen. It's a question of when. So one thing

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to teach my community is some proactive steps

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>we can all take now bitcoin, Bitcoin being a huge piece,

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>so we can preemptively opt out of that matrix system.

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what we're gonna do about the income

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>tax and property tax, because those most definitely you're gonna

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>be you're gonna be forced to pay those in these

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>stinking CBDCs. But other than that, we can start building

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>these parallel economies now in order to already have trade

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>relationships with other people that are looking to reject this system.

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>And why do you look at I mean so, uh,

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of people think, um that you know,

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>fiat money has as run its course. Uh you know,

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>we have thirty one trillion dollars in debt, We've you know,

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of trillions of dollars of fiat currency has been created.

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>It's created all these distortions, inflation and socio economic problems, etcetera. Um,

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and we're at the end of this hunted your sovereign

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 1>debt bubble. And uh, you know, fiat money is dying,

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>which it always does, always trends back to zero. And

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the governments are gonna save everything, We're gonna move us

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>on to a CBDC system, And I'm like, it's still

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>fiat currency. There's nothing different. And over of all transactions

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>are done digitally anyway. I hate to admit I don't

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>care a lot of cash. I just use my debit

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>cards and credit cards. Right, So we're already using digital

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and so is the CBDC any different. Well, the big difference,

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>of course, is that it's gonna be programmable, so there's

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>like smart contract technology that will be utilized. Not all

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>CBDCs are even gonna be blockchain technology. They're most definitely

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be decentralized. I think there's a bit of

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>a misnomber with a lot of people's thinking on that front.

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>But the big difference is the ability to track and surveil.

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>So now if you use your credit card and debit

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>card for everything, sure visa Bank of a America. They

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>are able to keep tabs, but it's not centralized. And

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>if the federal government wanted to come snoop in your transactions,

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the would at least have to do a little bit

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>of work, maybe a subpoena here or there, or just

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 1>backdoor into whatever major institution or whatever tech company. Right,

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>but with the central bank digital currencies, it's possible that

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>they circumvent commercial banks altogether. And there's a direct relationship

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 1>between the FED, which is like evil you know, enemy

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>number one, the evil empire and the individual. And then

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>on top of that the programmable nature. They do not

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>have the ability at this points to issue reverse interest

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>rates to try to stimulate the economy. So that's like

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 1>if we're having a slow economic quarter, for example, all

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, put a little ticker on your money,

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>so maybe every day it loses a percentage of its

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>value or something. This is already happening with inflation, but

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it will be a little more public and in your face.

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>And then, of course, as we saw with the Canadian

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>trucker movement, this freedom convoy, even people that didn't participate,

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>they simply contributed financially to a peaceful freedom movement. They

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>were locked out of their banks. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>the central bank digital currency, coupled with the digital i D,

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<v Speaker 1>coupled with the social credit score, coupled with this vaccine, passport, infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 1>checkpoint Charlie society, it's been called um that will make

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<v Speaker 1>it a lot easier to control people and to give

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<v Speaker 1>them a disincentive to speaking out against the status quo.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's my big concern, and that's not something

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<v Speaker 1>that they can do so easily. Now, yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that the programmable money pieces is not to be overlooked, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>um to your point, I mean, with enough you know,

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<v Speaker 1>subpoenas or just whatever backdoor snooping, they can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get access to information. It's not super easy versus programming

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<v Speaker 1>up front. So you already mentioned some of these carbon

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<v Speaker 1>score tracking things like master cards working on ways that

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<v Speaker 1>you can track your carbon score, so you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>only allowed allotted so many you know, so much carbon

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<v Speaker 1>score and if you get over that, then your money

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work anymore. You can't buy certain things. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>buy a plane ticket, or you can't buy red meat

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, or um to your point. You know, hey, John,

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<v Speaker 1>you're saving way too much money, you're hoarding so you

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<v Speaker 1>have a negative interest rate, or mark you're not saving

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<v Speaker 1>enough will give you a positive interest rate. All types

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<v Speaker 1>of societal behavioral changes, you know, appropriations, um, reparations, all

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, or just you know, hey, smoking is

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<v Speaker 1>no good and you can't buy cigarettes anymore. Hey, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>good happens after midnight, and your money doesn't work up

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<v Speaker 1>from midnight. I mean, who knows, right, who knows where

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<v Speaker 1>that can go? But they programmed that in and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the big difference as opposed to trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do this like long work around. Um, would you say

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<v Speaker 1>that cb dcs are a threat to bitcoin? Yeah? So,

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly think the CBDC thing has been um accelerated

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<v Speaker 1>because bitcoin and cryptocurrency are growing so rapidly. So there

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<v Speaker 1>is a chance that they further escalate their efforts to regulate,

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<v Speaker 1>if not prohibit bitcoin. Now, a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>just they're falsely believing they're just gonna ban bitcoin. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna get involved. And in fact, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of I think a lot of people make excuses about

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin because they feel insecure about their technological capabilities, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they'll just say like they'll shut the Internet down

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<v Speaker 1>or e M P, or they'll just make it illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we have to take into account that there's

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<v Speaker 1>governments that are competing with one another. Right, so if

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin is made illegal in the United States of America,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the industry innovation and taxing opportunity will be

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<v Speaker 1>exported to Europe or wherever, although we're Europe seems a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more hostile bitcoin anyway. So to answer your question,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be a big challenge for the CBDC

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<v Speaker 1>system if Bitcoin continues to operate outside of that system.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's up to each and every one of us

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<v Speaker 1>to do what we can to grow that network right now? Yeah, great, great,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, um. I think that CBDCs will help Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>adoption because people will see the contrast and want to

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<v Speaker 1>jump onto it. We'll have to see. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mark moshawb in a studio with John Bush. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Greater Reset event I'm gonna be speaking at.

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<v Speaker 1>Check it out Greater Reset dot org. Also check out

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<v Speaker 1>Market Disruptors Virtual dot com for an event I'm doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll put links to all John stuff in the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. That's what we got. Thanks so much for listening.