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Speaker 2: September fifteenth, and we got a bunch of stuff to

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Speaker 2: talk about today. We're talking about Robert Sarver, We're talking

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Speaker 2: The National Basketball Association, which is dedicated to stamping out

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Speaker 2: racism in all of its forms, has released a report

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Speaker 2: that tells us two things. One of the owners of

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Speaker 2: an NBA franchise, Robert Sarver, the owner of the Suns

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Speaker 2: confirmed to have used the N word several times while

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Speaker 2: at work owning an NBA team also confirmed sexist comments

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Speaker 2: to a pregnant female employee. And the second thing we

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Speaker 2: learned is that the NBA, which is dedicated to stamping

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Speaker 2: out racism in all of its forms, is suspending this

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Speaker 2: man for a year and finding him zero point one

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Speaker 2: percent of his personal net worth. I thought we were

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Speaker 2: kicking I thought we were kicking these billionaires out of

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Speaker 2: the league for running around saying and we're what the fuck.

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Speaker 1: Get your ship and get out. But my biggest takeaway

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Speaker 1: from this is that it feels like the owners are adjusting.

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Speaker 1: It feels like there was a lesson learned from Donald

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Speaker 1: Sterling because like, if they were into to strip Sorrow

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Speaker 1: of his team, you know, this ship would not hold

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Speaker 1: up in court, you know what I'm saying, Because for one,

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Speaker 1: it's like Sorrow got like all the fucking workarounds where

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Speaker 1: you can't prove that he willfully and intentionally created a

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Speaker 1: hostile work environment. Right like the times he said the

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Speaker 1: N word, he was repeating when black people said it, right,

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Speaker 1: the misogynistic jokes lyrics, yeah right, exactly, the misogynistic shit

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Speaker 1: he was saying. He claimed he was joking, so it's

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Speaker 1: like and then he leaned back on the whole You know,

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Speaker 1: all his social justice initiatives. Like I said, it feels

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Speaker 1: like the owners are kind of adjusting and adapt to

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Speaker 1: still being racist shitheads, but now they've got the work

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Speaker 3: Like that's what I kept from it.

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Speaker 4: I will say this, if you say the N word

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Speaker 4: around me, I will still punch you in your shit

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Speaker 4: either You're gonna have to whoop my ass. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: have to as you feel what I'm saying. But the misogyny,

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Speaker 4: to me was the worst part. I'm sorry that quote

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Speaker 4: he gave us. It felt like it came from a

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Speaker 4: place of understanding. Yes, he said, not the misogynistic, not

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Speaker 4: the misogyny. Not the misogyny when he said these niggas

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Speaker 4: need niggas. He said it, and it was necessary to

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Speaker 4: be said. A nigga should have said it, but he

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Speaker 4: did it. A nigga did say it, So he said it. Okay,

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Speaker 4: it came from a place of understanding. Dog, we can't

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Speaker 4: deny it. The ancestors game to what but they also

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Speaker 4: was like he right, you feel me? So I'm not

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Speaker 4: as mad as Donald at Robert Sarver don't feel the same.

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Speaker 4: It don't feel the same as as Sterling.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Sterling was being an asshole and evil, You know what

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Speaker 4: I mean. And I'm not giving nobody no passes because

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Speaker 4: that ain't sh it, ain't sweet. You feel me. I'm

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Speaker 4: a country nigga. We stand on that ship.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you that the ship he's saying to

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Speaker 2: the to the pregnant employee, the stuff he's saying and

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Speaker 2: doing the women, the.

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Speaker 1: Guy that is the ship should but yeah, but but

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Speaker 1: but but it goes back. It goes back to what

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Speaker 1: you said about Sterling. You could have easily proved malicious

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Speaker 1: intent in court with with the ship. You would be

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Speaker 1: fighting an uphill battle with this with Sarv because, like

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Speaker 1: I said, he was quoting black people. He said he

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Speaker 1: was joking with the bullshit.

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Speaker 5: He said.

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Speaker 3: It would be an uphill battle that they'd be fighting

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Speaker 2: I think the I think the other aspect of that

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Speaker 2: is the NBA owners all hated Donald Sterling.

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Speaker 3: M hmm, right.

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Speaker 2: I think they see more of themselves than Robert Sarver

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Speaker 2: and so if oh, did I ever says he doesn't say, right, no, no,

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Speaker 2: But don't you think me like, oh, maybe I have

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Speaker 2: said some things in jest that I wouldn't want to

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Speaker 2: deprive me of this billion dollar asset that I own,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So I yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: that's the other component of it too. But I think Tyler,

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Speaker 2: to John's point about the about the quote, I think

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Speaker 2: Tyler retweeted someone who said, what's the same hearing about

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Speaker 2: noted philosopher and psiologists?

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Speaker 4: I hate it, but it did come from him. So yes,

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Speaker 4: when it comes to the sexual harassment shit, give him

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Speaker 4: the funk out it off the strength of dead, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's hard to put them call

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Speaker 4: that you're saying, Tyler, But get him out of there

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Speaker 4: off the strength of dad, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: But like when it comes to you know, this, ain't this,

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Speaker 4: ain't this ain't Stirling bro It ain't the same situation.

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Speaker 2: To me, He now before he begins his one year suspension,

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Speaker 2: has to help us elect his replacement on the NBA

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Speaker 2: Board of Governors for a year, John, do you have any.

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Speaker 4: Advice because he knows what these niggas.

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Speaker 6: Need you gotta say it, Robert, I already know its okay, Bro,

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Speaker 6: Like you said, I hate it came from him, But Bro,

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Speaker 6: it came from him.

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Speaker 2: If you said one of you said when that story

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Speaker 2: came out, it was the right message from the wrong messenger.

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Speaker 4: Bro, I heard it and I was like, it gave

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Speaker 4: me pause. I had to you know, look, Okay, you

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Speaker 4: got a point there.

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Speaker 2: Continue Shout out to the ant, Shout out to the

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Speaker 2: anti Robert Sarver, fucking Mike Tomlin for I want a

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Speaker 2: live cam on Mike Tomlin in the locker room.

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 4: And it was Bankroll too, which to me speaks to

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Speaker 4: my country ass spirit, you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 4: I loved Bankroll, you know what I mean. So the

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Speaker 4: fact he was you know, he was dancing to that

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Speaker 4: is on top of welcome your trap and take over

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Speaker 4: your bankroll, baby, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's what they need. You feel me love to see it?

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about let's talk a little history.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's let's let's set let's do Tyler's heart some

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Speaker 2: good because I know he's always happy when we can

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Speaker 2: get into history. And boy, we gotta dooz. I had

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Speaker 2: always thought Plymouth Rock was metaphorical. It was a like

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Speaker 2: like we caught. I assumed it had some of the

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Speaker 2: word plymouth for perhaps meant something religious. That because I

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Speaker 2: didn't grow up in a religious household, I didn't know,

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Speaker 2: you know. Come to find out, Plymouth Rock is a

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Speaker 2: regular rock that is sitting in a mud pit somewhere

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Speaker 2: on the East Coast. We've all retweeted this picture, but

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Speaker 2: this is the least remarkable rock in America.

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Speaker 3: What the fuck that rock? Week as fuck? Bro?

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Speaker 4: Bro, I we can go to.

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Speaker 1: Some open air malls out here and I can show

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Speaker 1: you thirty more impressive rocks by some fountains and shit

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Speaker 1: than that whttle weak ass rock. That motherfucker is in

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Speaker 1: a goddamn enclave with sixteen twenty carved on it, looking

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Speaker 1: regular as fuck.

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Speaker 4: Fuck that damn rock of rocks. Okay, I'm seeing that

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Speaker 4: a motherfucker seventeen thousand, three hundred and thirty two times. Dog,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, what, Bro, It's wow, Bro, so unremarkable. People

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Speaker 4: are traveling spending money to see that. I would be

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Speaker 4: fucking pitch nigga.

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Speaker 3: You feel me?

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Speaker 4: Plymouth Rock, Oh, it's a real rock. Let me go

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Speaker 4: peep look and see that fucking mud pit. Bro, are

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Speaker 4: you kidding me? It's the worst ship. I literal literally

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Speaker 4: the worst ship I've ever seen. I have never seen

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Speaker 4: anything that is supposed to be special that is worse

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Speaker 4: than that. It's horrible. It's an abysmal attraction. In their quotes,

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Speaker 4: get the fuck out of here.

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Speaker 2: Fuck Plymouth Rock for multiple tyler, what did you say

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Speaker 2: You're gonna what you said you're gonna throw?

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Speaker 3: Iur hey, I was I was asking.

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Speaker 1: I was asking people on Twitter who dared me to

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Speaker 1: throw a bowl of Windy's chili on that motherfucker, because

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Speaker 1: I'll do it.

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Speaker 4: Y'all find my trip fund my.

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Speaker 1: Trip to Plymouth, and I would throw a bowl of

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Speaker 1: day old Wendy's chili on that motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: I can record it.

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Speaker 1: Hell, it's a lot of underwhelming asks like American Monument

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Speaker 1: and it's like like were talking about how trashut rushmore right, Like, Bro,

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Speaker 1: it's still rubble under that motherfucker that bit spin up

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Speaker 1: for like one hundred years, Like oh clean that bullshit up.

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Speaker 4: Dug brousa Plymouth rock rock that they have carved out

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Speaker 3: Four thousand pounds.

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Speaker 4: It's twenty times two. A ton is two thousand pounds.

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Speaker 4: I think four forty thousand. That's how is that? That

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Speaker 4: It looked like an iceberg that took down. It looks

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Speaker 4: The imagery is it on Getdy images. Maybe we could

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Speaker 3: More you know, I'm looking up.

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Speaker 5: That's perfect.

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Speaker 1: What a musty ass country, America. The more you learn

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Speaker 2: It was rejoined with the other portion of the rock.

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Speaker 4: They melded the motherfuckers together.

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Speaker 1: Some motherfuckers broke up that goddamn that the heat torches

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's man.

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Speaker 4: If you want to buy a print of it, they're

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Speaker 4: Is he talking about the kids?

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Speaker 2: What was it specifically? And she's saying like she had

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Speaker 2: and which you could just feel from a brilliant model stain,

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah. At this point, I feel like

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Speaker 3: She listen, bro, Bro.

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Speaker 1: It goes all the way back to my theory that

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 1: You were supposed to have been retired, now you're unretired.

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Speaker 1: I can't do this shit no more.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, right right, that man unretired out of spite. Bro.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, she could have stopped at Boston and

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Speaker 4: I'll have understood all of it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like that itself like being from Brazil, Like that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: You're the networks she has and she's living in fucking Boston.

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Speaker 4: She should never see a fucking snowflake with all that

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Speaker 4: fucking money. You know what I'm saying? You know what

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Speaker 2: Now that worth apart from him is four hundred million

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Speaker 4: So this is probably a fourth, maybe even a tenth

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Speaker 4: I get why he might have shook though. She probably

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Speaker 2: Matt just dropped a huge Steph Curry profile for Rolling Stone.

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Speaker 2: That was very very interesting, Matt, and we always love

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Speaker 7: Well, it was weird because it was slow and then

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Speaker 5: Was like, Yeah, the fact that that Steph is even

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Speaker 7: Idea says a lot about him, right, in terms of

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Speaker 7: Just gives me this like amazing news that I knew

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Speaker 2: Good for them, good for them. And there's a lot

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Speaker 1: Right, So Matt, you know, going back to when you

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Speaker 1: want to know did you hit the blunt with Snoop

437
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Speaker 1: or not? You don't have to creuinate step here, but

438
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Speaker 1: did you part taking the sticky y icky.

439
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Speaker 8: I think I gotten a little trouble for sharing a

440
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 8: little too much from my Nett book reporting about KD

441
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Speaker 8: and the sticky iky around his rib.

442
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Speaker 5: I don't let's just say that Snoop did not smell

443
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Speaker 5: of anything. It was quite early in the morning.

444
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Speaker 7: And we were at the Boys and Girls Clubs of America,

445
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Speaker 7: and it may have been appropriate for any of us

446
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Speaker 7: to be too far ablaze.

447
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 5: I did ask Steph. I don't think this made it

448
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Speaker 5: into the story if he.

449
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Speaker 7: Smoked and he was like, I think he said something

450
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Speaker 7: like I have but not frequently, which is a classic

451
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Speaker 7: kind of Steph political answer.

452
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Speaker 4: Depends what your meeting of is, right, I have a question,

453
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Speaker 4: if Snoop offered it to you, would you have at

454
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Speaker 4: the Boys and Girls club.

455
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Speaker 3: In the morning?

456
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Speaker 4: Okay, everybody, I was ready for it.

457
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 7: I'd flown in the night before and didn't have time

458
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Speaker 7: to stop at the local cannabis shop to be ready

459
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Speaker 7: to provide, which is apparently tried and true magazine writer

460
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Speaker 7: trick is to just have it ready for you in

461
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Speaker 7: case your subject is really what they're ready to let

462
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Speaker 7: loose a little.

463
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Speaker 2: I believe it Rolling Stone in particular, that has been

464
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Speaker 2: a useful uh tip as well.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and harder things than that, for sure.

466
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But but on a serious note. An interesting angle to

468
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Speaker 1: this article was how I think it posed the question

469
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Speaker 1: of you know, can you be an activist without necessarily

470
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Speaker 1: being a revolutionary, right, it seems that that's something that

471
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Speaker 1: that's Steph is kind of trying to figure out, because

472
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Speaker 1: you know, Steph is said in a round by way,

473
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Speaker 1: I'm no revolutionary. I'm trying to figure out how to

474
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Speaker 1: use my platform to his best ability. I'm not trying

475
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Speaker 1: to get in the way of co opting movements, but

476
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Speaker 1: I want my my platform and my voice to matter.

477
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Speaker 1: There was a part where, you know, he mentioned that

478
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Speaker 1: he wished they did more during that Clipper series with

479
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Speaker 1: with the Donald Stern fiasco. Like he mentions he wished

480
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Speaker 1: that they really boycotted that playoff game. So, you know,

481
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Speaker 1: I'm just curious, you know, from the conversations that you've

482
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Speaker 1: had with Steph, like, like, what way do you see

483
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Speaker 1: him leaning? You know, in regards to moving forward with

484
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Speaker 1: his activism.

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Speaker 7: He definitely leans in the middle on everything. He's like

486
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Speaker 7: a classic centrist politician.

487
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Speaker 5: You know. I think we first met up like a

488
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Speaker 5: week after Bill Russell died, and as kind of my

489
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Speaker 5: entrede to him, I gave.

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Speaker 7: Him my copy of Bill Russell's memoir, which is amazing.

491
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Speaker 7: If you haven't read it, it's out of print, but

492
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Speaker 7: and I handed him like this little newspaper clipping.

493
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Speaker 5: I think it was from sixty four.

494
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Speaker 7: Russell had had after the murder of Med Grevers, the

495
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Speaker 7: civil rights activist had helped to open like the first integrated.

496
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Speaker 5: Basketball camp in Jackson, Mississippi.

497
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Speaker 7: And when he got back to Boston, a reporter asked

498
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Speaker 7: Bill Russell in the way that Step has often asked

499
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Speaker 7: political questions and kind of caught on his heels, and

500
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Speaker 7: the guy had asked if the reporter had asked Bill

501
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Speaker 7: Russell feed feared for his life upon his return, and Russell.

502
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Speaker 5: Said, I'm a man.

503
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Speaker 7: If I have to be a boy to be popular,

504
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Speaker 7: then I don't want it. If popularly depends on a

505
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Speaker 7: thing like this, then I don't give a damn. And

506
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Speaker 7: I asked Step, you know it, do care about not

507
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Speaker 7: being as popular if it means you have to be

508
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Speaker 7: not is safe, and he claimed, you know, I don't

509
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Speaker 7: care about being popular. It's not about that. And that

510
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 7: was at first, but but you know, he remains immensely popular.

511
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Speaker 7: And as we spent the next kind of three weeks

512
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Speaker 7: together kind of confronting his past, like the Sterling stuff,

513
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 7: like this bathroom Bill stuff, like the Kaepernick stuff, it

514
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 7: became pretty clear to me that he at once kind

515
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Speaker 7: of you know, cared deeply and meticulously about maintaining that popularity,

516
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Speaker 7: but that he's starting to you know, will himself to

517
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Speaker 7: stretch himself, at least in conversations with me and perhaps

518
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Speaker 7: in real life with these kind of activists and community organizers.

519
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Speaker 7: He's come to know, so we'll see, he can be

520
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Speaker 7: wishy watched.

521
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Speaker 5: He admittedly he tries to predict and protect himself, to

522
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Speaker 5: appeal to all people and then do the work behind

523
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Speaker 5: the scenes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was really interesting. First of all, Tyler.

525
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Speaker 2: That was also the first thing I had down to

526
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Speaker 2: ask about as well, was I thought it was an

527
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Speaker 2: interesting thing to key on. And then obviously, especially with

528
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Speaker 2: the Robert Sarver stuff, that it was like that that

529
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Speaker 2: Donald Sterling moment, there was a moment of enough clarity

530
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Speaker 2: that that was the thing that he seeses on that

531
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Speaker 2: he's like, no one could say, I mean, because I'm

532
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: sort of thinking of his brain processing that popularity side

533
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Speaker 2: of that equation in that answer. Right, no one retrospectively

534
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: could be angry at us boycotting Donald Sterling. Right, He's

535
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Speaker 2: not in the club anymore, you know, he's sort of

536
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: universally reviled or whatever. But I also thought it was

537
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Speaker 2: interesting and I'm sure this was an intentional choice on

538
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Speaker 2: your part that he's sort of so linked with Barack Obama, right,

539
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: because I think that's like politically you sort of feel

540
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Speaker 2: the same thing about Obama and kind of maybe understandably

541
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Speaker 2: from STEP's perspective that for Obama. You know, he wrote

542
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Speaker 2: in his memoir, which I greatly enjoyed the first half

543
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Speaker 2: of that's been published, like everyone wants him to do this,

544
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 2: everyone wants him to do so many things, and he's like,

545
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm the only person in the world who understands what

546
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: it's like to wear the burden that I'm wearing. So

547
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: people can want whatever they want from me, but they

548
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: have no idea, you know, what the expectations, et cetera like.

549
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: And it sort of feels like maybe there's a linkage

550
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: there with Steph that it's just and that a lot

551
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: of these athletes have. It's like, this is not Bill Russell,

552
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: this is not the nineteen sixties. If you are a

553
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: Steph Curry or Lebron James, you're a fortune five hundred CEO.

554
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 5: But I think it's different for Lebron and Steph and

555
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 5: we got into this a little. He really does doesn't

556
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Speaker 5: like the comparisons on the court between himself and Lebron,

557
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 5: but you know, it's interesting at that Boys and Girls called, there's.

558
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Speaker 2: Anyone like that comparison.

559
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Speaker 5: There was this gike there's this gigantic sign on at

560
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Speaker 5: the Boys and Girls Club, big sign, he said, Lebron

561
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Speaker 5: James Family Foundation. I was like, Okay, Lebron's already been here,

562
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Speaker 5: He's already helped to rebuild this entire joint. It was

563
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Speaker 5: kind of a microcosm to me. You know, the Lebron

564
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Speaker 5: James Family Foundation is very kind of res release. He

565
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 5: does a lot, tries to do everything.

566
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Speaker 7: Steph's family Foundation was actually registered for like five O

567
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Speaker 7: one seats three tax purposes as the Stephan and Aisha

568
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Speaker 7: Curry Family Foundation, and Aisha was.

569
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Speaker 5: Like no, no, no, no, no no no.

570
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Speaker 7: And I don't know if this was because it sounded

571
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 7: too much like Lebron's, but it was very inward focused

572
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 7: and they wanted to change it to eat, leer and play,

573
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 7: to be outward focused.

574
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Speaker 5: And Steph said, you know, he admires again.

575
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Speaker 7: I don't think any of this made it into the story,

576
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 7: but he admires what Lebron has done in doing it

577
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Speaker 7: his own way. He said, it's not for everybody. And

578
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 7: I think Steph realizes that he is more palatable than

579
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 7: anyone in sports really, and he needs to protect that.

580
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Speaker 7: And Lebron has poked the bear, has gotten his back

581
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 7: against Trump, and he's the one calling him you bum,

582
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Speaker 7: even though you know, Trump is kind of treating Steph

583
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Speaker 7: as a weapon of mass distraction. And I think he

584
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 7: realizes he needs to study the course in order to

585
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 7: keep that clout and then eventually, however, he chooses and

586
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Speaker 7: will choose to weaponize that himself.

587
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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that loved that bron put

588
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Speaker 1: him in front of those Donald Trump bullis with that tweet,

589
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Speaker 1: because because I always thought it was so larious, I

590
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Speaker 1: thought it might have been a kind of passive aggressive

591
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Speaker 1: on Bronze Bard and break some heat on step But

592
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Speaker 1: Steph loving it like like that was a big reveal

593
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Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he was cracking up about it, and we got

596
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Speaker 7: pretty deep into this kind of episode that I've always

597
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 7: been fascinated by, where in the wake of that, you know,

598
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 7: the whole NFL was like kneeling Jerry Jones was kneeling.

599
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 7: All of Kaepernick's protests had lost its cloud, even though

600
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Speaker 7: on the same weekend the Trump went after the Warriors.

601
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Speaker 7: He went after Kaepernick's had get that son of a

602
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Speaker 7: bitch off the field. And I always thought that the Warriors,

603
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Speaker 7: you know, they had like the first preseason game that year,

604
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 7: would take a knee and bring it back and talk

605
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Speaker 7: about it and be this kind of team of our time.

606
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Speaker 5: And then I was like, did they chicken out?

607
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Speaker 7: And I've always tried it for my book and for

608
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Speaker 7: the story, trying to get inside that room, and.

609
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Speaker 5: It just seems like these guys.

610
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Speaker 7: Iggy told me in a quote that wasn't in the story,

611
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 7: he was like, I think I have here. You know,

612
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 7: we're part of a reality show. We just became a

613
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Speaker 7: part of the shit show. And I think you have

614
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 7: to be wary of that. And I think that's when

615
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 7: sometimes you say, all right, let's not waste our bullets

616
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 7: on a shit show. You're just making yourself more of

617
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 7: the circus, and we're trying not to do that. So

618
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 7: I thought, I think the intentionality of these decisions of

619
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Speaker 7: these guys to not necessarily be obvious activists, but to

620
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 7: be celebrity activists, where you know, Kim Kardashian can get

621
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 7: to the White House and fight her good fight.

622
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 5: Trump does it for the photo, but she's still I

623
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 5: don't know, and that different.

624
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: That is different, right, I mean I always I sort

625
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: of feel for the guys when you have the Bill

626
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: Russell comparison, because no one's ever going to compare to

627
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: Bill Russell, but also to the twenty twenties. And your

628
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: position as an athlete in America is so different than

629
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: it was for a black basketball player in the early

630
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: nineteen sixties, as it was for Bill Russell. Right, And

631
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: like you said, like wielding that pr is not necessarily

632
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: wishy washy to Tyler's point about can you make progress

633
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: and be an activist without being a revolutionary? Like the

634
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: bigger the audience you command to some extent, the more

635
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: you can do now, right, But he is persistently wishy

636
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: washy throughout your story, you know exactly. I pressed for

637
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: some specifics some things.

638
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 5: I will say.

639
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 7: I did press on the hypothetical Curry Kerr ticket for

640
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 7: the White House that I know NBA Twitter frequently nominates

641
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 7: them or pop and and Steve told me.

642
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 5: That Steph would be president, I'd be vice. That's how

643
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 5: that ticket would would look. His name would be on

644
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 5: the top.

645
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 7: I did ask Steve, you know, if he'd ever been

646
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 7: formally approached about running for office, and he said no,

647
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 7: and he doesn't plan to and neither does stuff.

648
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 5: You know. Steph said, it's not on my radar right now.

649
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 5: After saying like, you know, like I have to watch,

650
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 5: He's like negative, No, I'm no herschel Walker out here.

651
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 5: And then the next time I just follow up and

652
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 5: tell him what Steve said. He's like, it's not on

653
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 5: my radar right now. But with a level of influence

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Speaker 5: I know I have, I feel like I'm just getting started.

655
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Speaker 2: He popped the top. You asked him about it again,

656
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: he was like, let me pop the top on this and.

657
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Speaker 1: Exactly going back to to, you know, the relationship that

658
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Speaker 1: that Stephan Obama have. I thought it was hilarious that,

659
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Speaker 1: you know, y'all discuss how how when step said what

660
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Speaker 1: they're gonna say now? After he got ring number four,

661
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: Obama hit him up and said, bro, curse when you

662
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: talk your ship, say what the fuck are they going

663
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Speaker 1: to say now?

664
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Speaker 5: Right?

665
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 4: Like I thought, feels that out of him.

666
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 5: I to get that out of step you know. He

667
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 5: was being the like nice Christian mama's boy, just want

668
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 5: to break out, break out that F bomb, and I

669
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 5: was supposed to. I was trying to talk to Obama

670
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Speaker 5: for the story and talk to like the people he's

671
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 5: influenced and influenced back and I almost had to like

672
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Speaker 5: fact check that with Obama.

673
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Speaker 7: But I just thought, it's like this of all the

674
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 7: questions asked Barack Obama, like did you say fuck?

675
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 5: Is not really appropriate.

676
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 7: So Steph eventually when I pressed enough, I think I

677
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 7: asked him like three separate, on three separate occasions, whether

678
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 7: Obama said fuck.

679
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Speaker 5: And I think what we printed is the furthest he

680
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 5: was willing to go. But yeah, that was a cool detail.

681
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 7: But I also love this kind of mentor mentee relationship,

682
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Speaker 7: Like they almost did this like corny ad for Obama's

683
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 7: my Brother's Keeper initiative. But then when Steph said on

684
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Speaker 7: a podcast couple of years back that the moon landing

685
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 7: might be fake, I love that he got this scolding

686
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 7: email that night from Obama being like, do better, you know,

687
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 7: do something about this, which is kind of a dope

688
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 7: relationship up in that kind of stratosphere. But also again

689
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 7: you know, instructive about Steph's religious stuff, right. He said

690
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 7: that that was in some senior year in high school

691
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 7: at his Christian high school's you know, apologetics class, where

692
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 7: he was own a conspiracy theory video and told to

693
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Speaker 7: be able to argue the other side just.

694
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 5: For the hell of it or the heaven of it.

695
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 7: And that was surprising that he was that honest about

696
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 7: that because I thought I was maybe walking into another

697
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 7: Kyrie moment there, but this man, as I will know,

698
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 7: is not Kyrie.

699
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 9: Yeah.

700
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that was a recurring thing with Steph,

701
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: is that he mentioned that a lot of his beliefs

702
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Speaker 1: are rooted in his faith, which is, you know, running

703
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: the mill for everyone but for you know, it seems

704
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Speaker 1: like I don't want to say he used that as

705
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: a scapegoat, but like, you know, you pressed them on

706
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: some hard issues, like in regardless to.

707
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Speaker 3: Proach, is he pro choice, pro life?

708
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: And he just kind of you know, you know, kind

709
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: of dancing around in a bit saying, you know, I'm

710
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: a man of faith, blah blah blah blah blah.

711
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

712
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Speaker 10: Answer, Yeah, yeah, I mean I really pressed him on

713
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 10: the bathroom bill from North Carolina when the NBA basically

714
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 10: boycotted the All Star Game in Steph's hometown, and he's like, well.

715
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 7: I was surprised to hear it and to be asked

716
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 7: about public poul see it at practice, and I was

717
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 7: like okay.

718
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 5: Well.

719
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 7: I followed up again later like do you feel like

720
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 7: you're letting down your LGBT fans, community, liberals, and you know,

721
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 7: he said basically no, because he knows that everybody gives

722
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 7: these including Lebron.

723
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Speaker 5: We kind of made eye contact about like.

724
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Speaker 7: The I'm not educated enough excuse that Lebron pulls out

725
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 7: a lot and he's like, I'm not saying that, but

726
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 7: at the moment, I was legitimately like unaware of what

727
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 7: the policy was. And then I'm pushing him on, like, well,

728
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 7: what do you say to people who says the pastor

729
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 7: at your Pentecostal church, you know, is anti gay and

730
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 7: like you know, is up in abortion issues. And he's like, well,

731
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 7: I'm a man of faith and if that doesn't work

732
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 7: for everybody, I'm okay with that.

733
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 5: And I like that that he's not totally pandering to liberals,

734
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 5: but he also clearly doesn't want to alienate, you know,

735
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Speaker 5: the base of religious people who buy a sneakers.

736
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

737
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Speaker 2: I think it's sort of an interesting thing. And we've

738
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: talked about this on the show about Michael Jordan. I

739
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: think when the last dances coming out that it's like,

740
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: in some way the way that these athletes are being

741
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: so cautious about the different like you said, like they're

742
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: sort of different demos, right, the people who buy the sneakers,

743
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: it sort of does turn them into a national level politician,

744
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: whether that's what they're trying to be or not. You said,

745
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: it's like, how do I appeal to my LGBTQ base

746
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: while not alienating my religious followers. It's like, well, that's

747
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: exactly the problem that only presidents or large corporations.

748
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 7: But it's working right, Like we actually I had this

749
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 7: research for a Morning consul conduct like a legit poll,

750
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 7: and it turns out Americans like Steph more than both

751
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 7: Trump and Biden. They love him as much as lebron

752
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 7: and the remaining eight percent who either like or dislike

753
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 7: or hate him are basically old white dudes who like

754
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 7: football and Trump. And you know, so he's alienated like

755
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 7: a little corner of the.

756
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 5: Bar, right, but he's got the big portion of the

757
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 5: pie that he doesn't want to offend, And I think

758
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 5: that's good hearted, like he wants to do right with

759
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 5: the extreme cloud he has.

760
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm definitely not trying to cast dispersions. I

761
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 2: think like your story did a great job of grappling

762
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: with genuinely what it is like to be the singular

763
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: person that he is in the singular position that he

764
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: is in twenty twenty two, Like it's you know, and

765
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: his answers about his church. I thought spoke to that,

766
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: like no, like honestly who I am is conflicted and

767
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: ambivalent about a lot of this stuff, you know, Like

768
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: I did not.

769
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Speaker 7: But I was giving him this platform to like go

770
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 7: there right and instead he wanted to talk about what

771
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 7: it means to go there right.

772
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 5: Like he would not say the word trump back.

773
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 7: At me, And I told him, I'm not trying to

774
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 7: bait you into a quote here, but like what do you.

775
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 5: Think about him?

776
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 7: And and I think there's another interview that was cut

777
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 7: for a space was with Jordan Spieth, the superstar golfer.

778
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 5: I know we have some golfers hosting this podcast, who

779
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 5: you know.

780
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 9: Tons of I didnt knock us off the zoom right now,

781
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 9: and and and Speeded was saying, you're seeing that athletes

782
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 9: doesn't get in the last decade decade of their career.

783
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 7: You start to see him wanting to continue to push.

784
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 7: I think he speaking of Steph. I think he doesn't

785
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 7: give a fuck. It's just that him not giving a

786
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 7: fuck isn't the same as Trump not giving a fuck.

787
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 5: It's going to come out differently.

788
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 7: He understands, appreciates, and embraces the idea of influence. You know,

789
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 7: you can have socially without it being what's sexy, which

790
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 7: is brash headlines. Steph knows that every word he's going

791
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 7: to say is a headline. But is he willing to.

792
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 5: Actually not give a fuck rather than just say he

793
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 5: doesn't anymore? So? I think that remains to be seen.

794
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 5: There's definitely sequels to this story to be had well.

795
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 2: And I think that's what's like fascinating to me again

796
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: about this modern moment. And and there really are only

797
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: a handful of people that inhabit the level of influence

798
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: is a good word for it that you're you're talking about.

799
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: But if you look at that conversation between Obama and

800
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: Steph when Steph made the crack about the moon landing.

801
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: It shows you, like, again, there's only you know, a

802
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: couple dozen people who have this many people listening to them.

803
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: But on the one side, you have this guy who said, no, no, no,

804
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: there's an inherent responsibility that comes with this influence to

805
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: not say vaccines are fake or the Earth is flat

806
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: or whatever. And then you have, you know, on the

807
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: other side, athletes who are sort of not taking that responsibility.

808
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 2: But you also have politicians, right like Obama and Trump

809
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: are sort of diametrically opposed as well, and Trump similarly

810
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: has this outsize influence and obviously takes the exact opposite

811
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: approach to Obama of like whatever I say, I'll just

812
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: say whatever, you.

813
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 7: Know, not the flex too hard. But I talked to

814
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Speaker 7: Fauci about this very thing.

815
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Speaker 5: It's cool.

816
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 7: I talk to him about a lot of vaccine reporting

817
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 7: I did from the biggest steph ever, right like they

818
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 7: they did some kind of you know, believe COVID is

819
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 7: real ig lives back when the celebrities were doing that

820
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 7: and we were all cooped up at home, and and

821
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 7: Fauci was very much like, you know, it's good that

822
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 7: he has the special effect of his magic on the

823
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 7: court and his you know, his likability off the court

824
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 7: because people, you know, don't like Fauci and and and

825
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 7: he was like, are there some people who trust stuff

826
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 7: more than me?

827
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Speaker 5: You know? Thank goodness?

828
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 7: But he also, you know, we got to talking a

829
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 7: bit of well, let's just say I brought up Andrew

830
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 7: Wiggins and Kyrie and without mentioning them specifically, he said,

831
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 7: you know, you always got to be careful that you

832
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 7: don't inappropriately, inappropriately use influence.

833
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 5: So so I think you're right on there. I did,

834
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Speaker 5: for the record, ask Fauci if he would vote for

835
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 5: a hypothetical ticket of Kerr and Curry over Kyrie and

836
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 5: Joe Sie.

837
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: What was the answer there.

838
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 7: Doctor Fauci said, to that matchup, I have to admit

839
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Speaker 7: I am a really strong fan of Steph Curry. He's

840
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 7: sort of like an amazing guys, just a good human being,

841
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 7: really fine man. I'd have to go with Steph on

842
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 7: any ticket. And and he acknowledged that that was despite

843
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 7: his bias as a as a Brooklyn Navy.

844
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Speaker 5: That's that's great.

845
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 2: Uh do you uh? I know? John wants to hear

846
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: more about the golf component of the story, which I

847
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: thought was which I thought was interesting that you know

848
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 2: that seems to be. And I think this also is

849
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: very much what you hear from Barack Obama. He's not

850
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: trying to come out and make a statement that golf

851
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: needs more black people in minority like, he's not trying

852
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: to be the face of a message. What he's trying

853
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: to do is start something with the academy and with

854
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: the team that he's got right that will actually give

855
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: people more opportunities. And I thought that was an interesting

856
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: representation of kind of that like larger philosophical approach.

857
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's a dope flex that he is

858
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 7: going into a completely other sport where he knows that

859
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 7: there's gazillion Hoopers before and after him who are trying

860
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 7: to help the next generation of Hooper's right.

861
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 5: And I was talking to this kid, this isn't a story.

862
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 7: That was a junior at Howard named Otis Ferguson, and

863
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 7: he had gone up to Steph after a screening of

864
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 7: this movie that Steph produced about the Charleston church shooting,

865
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 7: and he's like, hey, Steph, let's get around the golf

866
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 7: before you leave. And he told Steph how he'd given

867
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 7: up a scholarship to play golf elsewhere to go to Howard.

868
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 7: He tried to start a club team that couldn't afford

869
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 7: a D one squad, and Steph was like, great, here's

870
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 7: my email.

871
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 5: This is cool. They emailed a bit, then.

872
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 7: Steph ghosts him for like the summer, and then this

873
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 7: kid gets a DM from some guy on Steph's team

874
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 7: one day saying like, dude, Steph, sorry for ghosting you.

875
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 7: Steph is now funding the entire Howard golf team for

876
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 7: like a million dollars, which is just dope. And the

877
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 7: coach at Howard was telling me, you know that that

878
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 7: impact is greater than Tiger Woods impact on the minority

879
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 7: golf community over all these years. And so this tour

880
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 7: he's doing, the Underrated Golf Tour, is legitimately like a

881
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 7: big feeder program into into big college programs. So it's

882
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 7: not like it's just some PR stunt. It's these are

883
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 7: legit golfers. And I think he's really making a difference

884
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 7: in that, which is cool because he is not a golfer,

885
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 7: although he's pretty good.

886
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Matt, thank you so much for hopping

887
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: on with us. Man. Everyone go check the story out

888
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 2: Rolling Stone. You can find it obviously at Matt's Twitter

889
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: at soul Duggery. I always love having you on, Always

890
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: love getting some gossip in along with the news. Oh yeah, yes,

891
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: all right, our thanks to uh Matt for hopping on

892
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: is always always love talking to that dude. Always love

893
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: when we get a new Matt Sullivan profile coming out.

894
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: We can sink our team.

895
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're fucking salivating. You love the fucking juice, Mike,

896
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: I love it well.

897
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: He You know what, Matt is one of the there's

898
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: not a lot of people that I consider to be

899
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 2: real writers who still have access to top level dudes

900
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: or you know, he was talking to us about there's

901
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: so many negotiations that go into any kind of access

902
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: at this point with people at that level of the world.

903
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: And so when he says he's doing a Steph Curry piece,

904
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, if if I had just

905
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: heard there's a Steph Curry profile out, I'm not really

906
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: that interested in that. I know Matt writes that I

907
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: am interested in it for sure. You guys want to

908
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: talk about this chess master who is cheating with with

909
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: the What am I reading this correctly? He was cheating

910
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: with vibrating anal beads.

911
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 4: I haven't heard about this. What are we talking about?

912
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 3: That is?

913
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: Someone added Beaker just dropped right the fuck off.

914
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 4: Smart smart, smart, smart smart.

915
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: I am a mother.

916
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 4: Sweet, I am all ears bubble.

917
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: I have not read the story, but a bunch of

918
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: people added us under it. Tyler, did you see this headline?

919
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's a rumor, it's unfounded speculation. But

920
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm just shot that that ship is so real in

921
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: fucking in the chess world that motherfuckers are making up

922
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: unfounded anal bead cheating rumors, Like goddamn, is that real

923
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: chessboard bro cheating?

924
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: Like how is he?

925
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: They said he had he had vibrating anal beads that

926
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: would vibrate on certain frequencies to kind of tell him

927
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: the move to make, you know what I mean, like.

928
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: Running stuff through a computer and was signaling him.

929
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 4: Well, so telling you what move to make.

930
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: He wasn't making his own moves, right, That's what That's

931
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: what they're saying. But that's sadn't know that is who Like,

932
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: there is.

933
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: A lot of cheating, and there is a lot of

934
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: cheating in chess. They had like a big adderall scandal

935
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: like not long ago, there was like people were like

936
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: passing out because they were so fucked up on like

937
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: speed like whatever else.

938
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 4: It necessarily you know what I mean, that's not necessarily cheating.

939
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: That's it's not like steroids where it makes you your

940
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 4: brain strong.

941
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: Exactly like steroids.

942
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and just more focused, like yeah, you need to.

943
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: Be more focused there chess it is.

944
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like I don't.

945
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like it doesn't make me better at chess.

946
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: Like yeah, no, bro, if you can stay focused for

947
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: longer while you're playing chess, that I actually think that's.

948
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 4: More right, right?

949
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: Hell? Yeah are you?

950
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 10: Yeah?

951
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: Because because yes, yes, addall will give you more focus

952
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: to where you can you know, map out some some ship,

953
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: how ship will play out three, four or five moves

954
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: ahead and you can be more locked in.

955
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah they're in there all No eight hours or what.

956
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 4: It's making you more focused, but it's not making you

957
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: better at chess. You still have to be really good

958
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 4: at chess.

959
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 7: You have.

960
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 2: That's the same thing about steroids. Cannot improvement your reaction time.

961
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: It's it's not teaching you how to swing a bat

962
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: and not hitting just playing one hundred and sixty games.

963
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: You know the tag.

964
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 4: It doesn't change you into an arcade level chess player

965
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 4: like steroids to does to you as a baseball player.

966
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 4: Come on, gee, it's not the same.

967
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: If for sure can provide an advantage and and and

968
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: a Like I said, in a game where you got

969
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: to you know, remember how all the possibilities of of

970
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: you know how she can play out and you can

971
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: can have that ship freshen your mind with I think.

972
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: Also Adderall, you're easy. You can easily go the other direction.

973
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 4: If your brain goes somewhere else, you get snatched over

974
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: there and lose focused. Like I just don't. I know

975
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 4: somebody that wrote an entire paper about our relationship while

976
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 4: on Adderall, where they were supposed to be writing a

977
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 4: paper about some other ship, you know what I mean.

978
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 4: Like this was in like twenty fourteen, but Dog.

979
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: With Jaselle Bunching.

980
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 4: No, No, it was a sweet letter. It was kind,

981
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 4: but it wasn't.

982
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't.

983
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 4: It wasn't the whole I think you need to be Nah,

984
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, But it was like but

985
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 4: so like Dog, it's not Adderall can go the other way.

986
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 4: I just don't. I don't believe that's the same, John.

987
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 5: I think the part.

988
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 11: I think the part you're underestimating is the people who

989
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 11: played chess taking adderall right, Like if I took steroids,

990
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 11: it wouldn't make me a professional baseball player. But if so,

991
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 11: but a professional baseball player who's already inclined to be

992
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 11: good at athletics takes one, it makes them better at that.

993
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 11: Where these chess people who are already geniuses to take out.

994
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 4: The focus is a is it a banned substance, Like

995
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 4: there's adderall is, yes, you're not allowed to take You're no,

996
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 4: you cannot buy adderall over the I know I'm saying

997
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 4: it's really available. I just say you could just buy

998
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 4: as readily available my nigga. No, no, no, I know I

999
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 4: know that, but I couldn't.

1000
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, caine, right, I.

1001
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 4: Could get out of all before get cocaine. You feel

1002
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 4: me Like you know what I'm saying, Like I can

1003
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: get at ofall just sease, I can get weed probably

1004
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 4: right now? Ge so so okay, so much so.

1005
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: If if a chess player without adderall, if he maxes

1006
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: out at okay, I can figure out eight possibilities if

1007
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: I make this move that he'll react to.

1008
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: But adderall give him advantage to where he can max

1009
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: it out. And I don't realize.

1010
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if it makes you have more possible

1011
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 4: it maybe it makes you be able to focus long.

1012
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 4: I can understand that. I don't think it's gonna have

1013
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 4: you figure out more possibilities or make you you know,

1014
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 4: you're not gonna become like the fucking math meme where

1015
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 4: you you know what I'm saying, when you take adderall,

1016
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 4: I don't see it. I don't see it working in

1017
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 4: that way. But I see it not you gonna be

1018
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 4: more focused during a long period of longer period of time.

1019
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 4: That makes sense, but I.

1020
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: Know, But it's the other thing you have to factor

1021
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: in is that when they go to a chess tournament,

1022
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 2: not playing one guy, they are playing over it's over

1023
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: duces matches days. So that's what it is. And like

1024
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 2: I said, dudes were literally like burning their bodies out

1025
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: on you know. And so I read this feature about

1026
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 2: chess players and it was like the nutrition analytics have

1027
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 2: come to chess that it's just like lean white meat,

1028
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: only like only fish in the morning and then only

1029
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: you know, carbons and greens in the evening.

1030
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 4: Like to so their archists can serve their energy or

1031
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 4: their their focus and stuff.

1032
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: That's yeah, because they have to sit. I mean, if

1033
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: you really think about what's physically happening, if you're sitting

1034
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: from like eight am to eight pm in a chair

1035
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: leaned over, intently focused, it's gonna fuck your body up

1036
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: if you're older than like nineteen, right.

1037
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 4: I wonder how much how many calories they burn from

1038
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: using their brain in the way that they're using it.

1039
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 4: I wonder if that I'm interested in that, you know, yeah, or.

1040
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: Maybe it's all the speed they're doing. I don't know.

1041
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about how Tyler has proclaimed this

1042
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 2: the horniest Game of Thrones episode ever easily.

1043
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: Everybody was fucking goddamn. Listen, bro Roanera and Damon almost

1044
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: got they fuck on. Ronara went back to the crib,

1045
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: got hur fuck on goddamn, but Sarah's was getting this

1046
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: fuck on. They went to the house where everybody was

1047
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: fucking motherfucker was fucking in the alley. It's the horniest

1048
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: episode of Game of Thrones ever. Like I said, they

1049
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: should have named that shit. That's how of that episode

1050
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: should have been.

1051
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: I know it.

1052
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: Smelled crazier then because Mohuckers was getting it in. They

1053
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: was fucking bro I've never seen no shit like that.

1054
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: And Game of Thrones is rapidly horny, but that was

1055
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: the horniest episode ever.

1056
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 2: I know.

1057
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 4: It smelled crazy there as wild, you know what I'm saying.

1058
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 4: You know it did, particularly because of the time period.

1059
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 4: God damn, I think even now, as many bodies that

1060
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 4: were naked in that the set had to be white, you.

1061
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?

1062
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 4: There were few in there that were just they were

1063
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 4: any candles, shit, you know what I mean?

1064
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: Come on, gee, you know what I mean.

1065
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: Who I didn't like the nearest putting my guy Chris

1066
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: Malta Santi in the in the in the tough position

1067
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: that she put him in like that. Dude's gonna for

1068
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: sure get his head chopped. Oh yes, you know what

1069
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: Tom is.

1070
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: He's sullied the princess. Y'all nasty too. I saw Tyler

1071
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 4: saying that he was rooting for the ship to go down.

1072
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was.

1073
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: I was no, I was not rooting for my ship.

1074
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: Was I absolutely was rooting for John and Danny to fuck.

1075
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie Tea.

1076
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: I was nephew. I didn't give a fuck.

1077
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: Look, it's a show with dragons and zombies and motherfuckers

1078
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: who could time travel. We can suspend reality here. I

1079
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: would absolutely not root for incense in real life or

1080
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: a lot. But yeah, yeah, I wanted that family to

1081
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: fuck goddamn.

1082
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 2: Run me that I didn't know each other. They also

1083
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: didn't know each other. That's what's different about But she

1084
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: was not a girl.

1085
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but the whole, the whole thing with Danny

1086
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't have given a fuck.

1087
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 3: Danny would not have given a fuck. John might have,

1088
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: but Danny's a Targaran.

1089
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: She hadn't been like okay, because Danny was supposed to

1090
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: fucking mayor her brother before.

1091
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: That motherfucker got killed. Danny wouldn't given a fun about

1092
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 3: her nephew.

1093
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 4: But yeah I would.

1094
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: But like I said, I absolutely do not like the

1095
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: fucking romantic tension between Ranera and Damon.

1096
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: That ship is uncomfortable as fuck. Yeah, it's cross.

1097
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: I cannot get into that prior. I didn't feel that

1098
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 4: prior to that moment, like I.

1099
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 2: Was, you did he put the next bro was the

1100
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 2: first episode. Sean was like this fucking show.

1101
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: Bro, Like the motherfucking dragon ag exchange.

1102
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: Bro.

1103
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: They wanted to make out right there, dog, like the

1104
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: tension has been building for episode.

1105
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like to me, it was like her

1106
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 4: flexing like I didn't see it like as a you know, yeah,

1107
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: I want to I want to de pant you in

1108
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 4: front of everybody right now, in front of these two

1109
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 4: fucking dragons, in front of the red word. But whatever

1110
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 4: the dragon's name is, long neck, bitch, I want to

1111
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 4: fucking depanch you right now.

1112
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 12: I don't want to fuck you right here in front

1113
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 12: of Gary Fred Gary on, let Gary the dragon watch.

1114
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 12: I don't care.

1115
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 4: Let everybody see your love.

1116
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 3: Bro.

1117
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 4: I did not feel that at all, Gee, that this

1118
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 4: was I was like, damn lets, it was a wild

1119
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 4: left for me. But maybe I'm just not as perceptive

1120
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 4: as you guys when it comes to incestual relationships.

1121
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: If you were on that damn phone while you were

1122
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: watching the show, exactly will you be on that damn

1123
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: phone come home?

1124
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 3: Man?

1125
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 4: I might have been. Maybe we're that part, you know

1126
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I got the gist of everything.

1127
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: The other thing I really liked about this episode, and

1128
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: this is like perfectly what they do on Game of

1129
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: Thrones is everyone who like from the time that Otto

1130
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: like got the report about Rnerius haven't been in the

1131
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: in the brothel. Everyone's lying about what happened, but the

1132
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: truth is also bad, you know what I mean. It's

1133
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: like everyone's telling the truth, but they're not telling the

1134
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: whole truth. So like when Raneras is telling her homegirl

1135
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 2: the queen whose name I don't remember, but she was like, no,

1136
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 2: I didn't do anything with it, Alison. She's like, I

1137
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: didn't do anything with it. And then that's true, but

1138
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: it's also he did take all of your pants down

1139
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: and you try.

1140
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: She was nibbling at him. I'm trying to get him.

1141
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 4: He was like, bro back up. The moment is passed.

1142
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 4: I cannot do this. Wow.

1143
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah damon. A while boy though, like the King was

1144
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: ready to kill that motherfucker. He was like, I would

1145
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: love to marry your daughter. Please night to his motherfucking neck,

1146
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: he was like, let me marry your daughter.

1147
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 4: She's already been sullied by me.

1148
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: Anyway.

1149
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, damn, this motherfucker's crazy.

1150
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 4: I don't know what is his I don't know what

1151
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 4: his goal is it.

1152
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: I thought he was solid, you.

1153
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying, I don't necessari, I don't feel

1154
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 4: that now after that little joint and what is his goal?

1155
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 4: I guess we will know that more. But it just

1156
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 4: seems like he's just reckless as fuck this chaos period, bro,

1157
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 4: Like and he's and he lies in ways that don't

1158
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 4: benefit him, you know what I'm saying, Like, this is

1159
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 4: the second time he's lied, you know, about something in

1160
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 4: a way that didn't benefit him, you know, or done

1161
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 4: something that I even think when he when he when

1162
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 4: he said this shit about the sun, I think he

1163
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 4: said that. It felt like he said that because you know,

1164
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 4: he was trying to, you know, help out his knees,

1165
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 4: you feel me? But uh yeah, I just I don't

1166
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 4: know what the fuck I don't know, man, this dude,

1167
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 4: that dude crazy as hell. I'm already selling her. It's like, Bro,

1168
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 4: he's daring his brother to fucking slid his throat.

1169
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 3: I would have did it.

1170
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, man. I would have had to have him.

1171
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 5: Bro.

1172
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 4: I needed that head, that one to mine.

1173
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 3: You mean, run me?

1174
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 2: All right, That's all the time we we got for

1175
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 2: this week. We'll be back on Monday. I hope everyone

1176
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: has a good rest of your week. Enjoy your weekend

1177
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: and we'll see a couple of days