1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Guys broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm strong and he Armstrong 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: and Getty. 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: Department of Transportation hitting Jet Blue this week with a 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: two million dollar fine. 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: DOT investigation found. 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: Jet Blue operated four chronically delayed flights on the East Coast, 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 3: arriving more than thirty minutes late more than half the 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: time for at least five straight months. 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: Wow. The fine, in. 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 3: Part, will go towards compensating Jeff Blue passengers already impacted 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: and those who see flight cancelations and lengthy delays in 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: the year to come. But Jet Blue says half of 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: the blame lies with the US government urging the incoming 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: administration to prioritize modernizing outdated ATC technology and a dressing 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: chronic air traffic controllers staffing shortages. 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: So the weather has been crazy the last couple of days. 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: I was in the midst of it in the Midwest, 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: and you can't blame the airlines when the weather is 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: that bad. I mean, there's no structure of travel that 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't get disrupted heavily when you have historic snow, wind, cold, 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: that sort of thing, but in general, the airlines punish 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: us a lot with the I was amazed. I flew 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: a couple of different airlines and just the paying for 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: every single little thing. Now, so you book your ticket, 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's just for a seat where like Cary, if 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: you have to, you're gonna have to sit with your 29 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: head bent like this. If you want your head to 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: be straight up and have room to have your head 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: straight up, you gotta pay an extra thirty nine dollars. 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: If you want your feet, you have to remove your 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: feet if you're in this seat, if you want to 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: actually have your feet, and then it's another fifty nine. Oh, 35 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: you want to have a bag. You're gonna travel with luggage. 36 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: Of course I'm traveling with luggage. I'm gonna travel across 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: the country with nothing. Well, if you're gonna have luggage, 38 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: then it's another this much money. 39 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: It's just wow. Yes, it's like the going to a steakhouse. 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: Everything's all a car. Wait a minute's sixty three bucks. 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 4: It's just for the slab of meat. 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: Right right. 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: And then I got I got screwed by a rental 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: car company. Also when I showed up to get my 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: vehicle and they said we don't. We don't have one 46 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: of those right now. What do you mean I was 47 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: about to set off on a cross country trip. What 48 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: do you mean you don't have it. I'm showed to 49 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: my email confirmation number. I'm supposed to show up at 50 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: this time. What does the word confirmation mean to you? 51 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: Well, we don't. That means that we should have the vehicle. 52 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: We understand you reserve the vehicle, but we don't have 53 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: the vehicle when it's busy like this, we don't always 54 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: have the vehicle. 55 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: I said, what do you mean when it's busy like this? 56 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: Nothing in this email says that if you're busy, you 57 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: won't have my car. 58 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't say that anywhere. I was really unhappy with that. 59 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: So it's a system that says, you know, we usually 60 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 4: have those cars. So yeah, let's promise this guy one. 61 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 4: It's like a specific car that they're going to have 62 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: for you. 63 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: No, can we put you in something else? 64 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: No? 65 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't want something else. Traveling across the country, I 66 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: have a lot of space. Well, we don't have that. 67 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: But again, what does confirmation mean? Tell me what confirmation 68 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: is here? I'll look it up in the dictionary for you. 69 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: But anyway, So I got into this discussion with my 70 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: family members about where I run into problems with my 71 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: whole libertarianism free market stuff. And I'm always will be 72 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: a free market guy as opposed to you know, state 73 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: run whatever. But it just seems like some industries. I 74 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: don't know if the barrier of entry is too difficult 75 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: airlines and rental car companies or what, but it seems 76 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: like a race to the bottom. Oh and a couple 77 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: of different was calling around see if I could get 78 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: a vehicle. The website, the attempting to talk to a 79 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: human being is just so horrible, and it's getting worse, 80 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: and there doesn't seem to be the normal market pressures 81 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: of trying to be better so that the other companies 82 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: would have to keep. 83 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 4: Up with you. This reminds me somewhat of your rants 84 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: about cheap Chinese crap flooding the country. I think a 85 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: lot more people want cheap crap than want to pay 86 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: more for quality. A lot of people are just price 87 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: driven when it comes to airline seats and rental cars, 88 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: and they just figure ouh, they all suck and they 89 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: chase the lowest price. 90 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: So if a company treated you better, which probably would 91 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: cost a little more. You think the majority of people 92 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: would not choose that. 93 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they would go for the low ticket. 94 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 4: Well that's disappointing then yeah, I just yeah, I'm not 95 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 4: saying I'm in favor of it. 96 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: I just think it is. 97 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 4: And getting back to the Jet Blue story, number one, 98 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 4: our air traffic control system is in dire need of 99 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: an upgrade, but it has no lobbyists to bribe politicians, 100 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: so it's not gonna happen. But the idea of finding 101 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 4: Jet Blue heavily for not being able to be on time. 102 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: They're already hemorrhging cares. They're constantly trying to merge with 103 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: somebody because they're going out of business. Finding them, they're like, okay, great, 104 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 4: we'll fire three or four more pilots, pay your fine. 105 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: Great, that'll make us on time on it. 106 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 4: It has a very The beatings will continue till the 107 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 4: morale improves field to it. 108 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: Of course, I've never. 109 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 4: Flown Jet Blue because I'm not low ticket guy. Right, 110 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: I want a shoulder massage. I want a valure seatide 111 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: prefers ilk, but the lure will do. 112 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: My brother, who's a fairly large guy, flew Spirit and 113 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: he said he couldn't feel his feet by the time 114 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: he lefted because he had his legs all twisted up 115 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: and pushed together. 116 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: And if you can't. 117 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 4: What he doesn't realize is the full name of Spirit 118 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 4: Airlines is in parentheses, is we'll crush your Spirit Airlines. 119 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: It looks like the Prime Minister of Canada is resigning 120 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: and a weasel if he says anything interesting, good looking 121 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: weasel though. 122 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: If he says anything interesting, we'll bring that to you. 123 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: What's the short version of why he's resigning? People hate him? 124 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, yeah, people hate him. He's a woke idiot 125 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: who's ruined Canada. 126 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: You ruined Canada? Are you happy? 127 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 5: Now? 128 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: Get LGDP gt lbch LGBTQ two plush There he is there, Yeah, 129 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: the real Northern George Washington there. 130 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: Huh. How about that leadership about weasel? Oh geez, all right, 131 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 4: speaking of weasels in bad leadership, Joe Biden is soon 132 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 4: to be the former president. I appreciated this clip forty 133 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 4: two Michael Todd Piro Joe Biden. 134 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 5: He has spent five hundred and seventy days on vacation 135 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 5: the last four years. Get out your calculator, America. That 136 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 5: is forty percent of his presidency. That means four out 137 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 5: of every ten days. For those of you who aren't 138 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 5: good at math, Joe Biden has spent on a beach 139 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 5: or otherwise at some form of not working. 140 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Well, we all know why. I mean, he was incapable 141 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: of doing the job and his brain didn't work. Somebody 142 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: just sent this text. I was watching Joe Scarborough this morning. 143 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: He stated that this is the best Carter I've ever seen. Yes, 144 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: and if you don't like it, f you, right, we 145 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: all know the story. It is this going to be 146 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: lost to history, I guess. 147 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: So it's already lost. 148 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: I mean we're not even done with the Biden presidency, 149 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: and it's already not enough of the conversation that hey, 150 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: y'all covered up for this guy for years and you 151 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: got caught and that's how why you lost. You idiots 152 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: loved the Babylon b headline, paraphrasing White House claims President 153 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: Carter is as sharp as ever behind the scenes, right, yeah, right, beautiful. 154 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: So normally we defend presidents and say, well, they're plugged 155 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: in all the time, quote unquote, being on vacation, they're 156 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: doing the job from elsewhere. 157 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: Although a senile old Joe Biden. 158 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 4: I mean I think he was actually on like semi 159 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: permanent vacation. 160 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: This happened and got a lot of attention. 161 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 6: Forty Michael, the President will hedge New Orleans. He gave 162 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 6: a preview yesterday on the message he'll share with the 163 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 6: victims families. It's one we've heard before in times of tragedy, 164 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 6: about the need to hold on to each other in grief. 165 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 6: He also gave an update on the investigation and was 166 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 6: asked by reporters if he still believes that white supremacy 167 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 6: is the greatest threat to the homeland, after he faced 168 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 6: criticism for potentially downplaying the ISIS threat throughout his administration. 169 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 6: He wound up giving this answer. 170 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 7: Listen, I didn't look as Look, we are the most 171 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 7: extensive hold the culsummation in the world. 172 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: Funny thing, might being the oldest president. I know more 173 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: world leaders than any one of you ever met. In 174 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: your home. 175 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: Wife, Okay, you're gonna have to tell me what he 176 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: said there at the beginning, because I couldn't quite hear it. 177 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 4: Oh, it was rambling nonsense. I had foreign countries and 178 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 4: give me give me forty one Michael. 179 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: World might being the oldest president. 180 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 7: I know more world leaders than any one of you 181 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 7: ever met in your whole goddamn. 182 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: Wife's The piano tinkles in the back room. The background 183 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: is cussing out reporters. I know more world I'm you 184 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: got a problem with me being the orders mand it? 185 00:08:54,480 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: You did, brom, get off my log? God? How does so? 186 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: We're talking? Last hour? 187 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: And if you didn't get it, you should get the 188 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand, the Opening to Meet 189 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: the Press, and pretty much all the shows. Yesterday was 190 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: a nation on edge after a terrorist attack, and I. 191 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: Thought that's funny. 192 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: I was traveling around the country as an airports, as 193 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: an high you know, priority targets. If the terrorists were 194 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: I didn't run into anybody was on edge. I didn't 195 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: feel on edge while I was traveling. I didn't run 196 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: into anybody was on edge. So much of media coverage, 197 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: maybe this is why I should take in less of it. 198 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: It's just not real. I mean, it just doesn't match 199 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: up with everybody's life on a day to day basis. 200 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: And that would fit in with the President coming out 201 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: and giving a speech about the Terek in New Orleans. 202 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: And I just want to say I am with you. 203 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: I feel your tragedy. I thought, who's that freaking for? 204 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: The people in New Orleans don't They're not watching this, 205 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: They don't care the actual family members. 206 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: My family member's dead. 207 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: The last thing I'm doing is watching the news to 208 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: see what the President said, and then for. 209 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: The rest of us listening to him at some speech. 210 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: Right, Do they actually think that we as a country 211 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: like Christian Walker, meet the press and the president and 212 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: his speechwriter. Do they think one were on edge and 213 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: they need to call us, and two were grief stricken 214 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: and can be comforted by the old man saying a 215 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: couple of words. 216 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: Do they think that? 217 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 4: I think they do. Yeah, I do, because they are 218 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: so insulated, so bubbled, as the expression goes, they're so 219 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 4: fascinated by and completely captured by what happens within their 220 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: circle that they get a distorted view of America that 221 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 4: they pass on to us, which you've been railing against 222 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: for a career. But some of it, some of it's 223 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 4: premeditated trying to accomplish something. But I think a lot 224 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 4: of it is they believe their own bull crap. They 225 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 4: think they're the center of our lives, and you know, 226 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 4: not to get all not John Adams, Samuel Adams Anya. 227 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 4: But what the government is far too much at the 228 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 4: center of our lives, the federal government in particular, in 229 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 4: a way that's utterly perverse and adverse to the ideas 230 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: of the founding of the country. 231 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: It's wrong. So you know, don't let it be and 232 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: fight it however you can. 233 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: Have you ever known anybody that you think that after 234 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: there's a I don't know what tragedy, school shooting or anything. 235 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: Really practically, have you ever known anybody that you think 236 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: needs the comfort of the words of the president? 237 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: I don't think I have no I thought you were 238 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: going to ask me. Is on edge and kind of hyper? 239 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 2: I know people like that. Yeah, they almost in my. 240 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 4: Experience, are almost one hundred percent overlap with the farthest 241 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 4: left people I know in my life who like being 242 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 4: afraid and they like being in a state of crisis. 243 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: It gives them maybe a sense of purpose. I don't know. 244 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you on the East Coast, at least 245 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: practically everybody I dealt with, airports, rental cars, hotels will 246 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: wearing a mask. I don't know if they got more 247 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: COVID or if that's just their attitude or what. Lots 248 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: and lots of masks. Yeah. 249 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: I don't blame people trying to avoid respiratory illness, and 250 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 4: that's fine. 251 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. But you need to 252 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: enunciate and speak louder. You can't have a mask on 253 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: and go. I'm sorry, I can't hear you with your 254 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: freaking mask on, you lunatic. 255 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: Sorry. 256 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, especially if it's somebody like working an airline counter 257 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: or something like that. Manya moron, talk louder or pull 258 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 4: your mask. Count damn it ah ah maybe nuts. You know, 259 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 4: I'd just gotten loose for kicking the old man. I 260 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: want to talk at some point about the ridiculous metals 261 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 4: of freedom of presentations. And also, and this happened just 262 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 4: after I think we went on vacation, his commuting the 263 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 4: sentences of like all but three people on federal death Row, 264 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 4: and the utter hypocrisy and ridiculousness of that gesture just 265 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: in a this is kind of funny live as we're 266 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 4: on the air, So lots of people in Washington, DC 267 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 4: got this big giant snowstorm going on certification of the election, 268 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 4: tourists everything like that. 269 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: A giant, massive snowball fight has broken out on the 270 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: mall and it was hilariously fun, looks really really fat. 271 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: You are going to have to explain to me at 272 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: some point in the show. We got to get into 273 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: this because I kept coming across it. What the term 274 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: woke right means? Seemed like it was the hottest thing 275 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: in all of social media over the last two weeks. 276 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: Huh, what if I don't want? 277 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 4: Well, I need to know what it. 278 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: Is, all right? Am I am? I afraid of it? 279 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: Am I one of them? Am I am? I for it? 280 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't even know what it is, among other things 281 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: we need to discuss. I hope you can stay here. 282 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter died while we were gone. I was about 283 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: enough of him already anyway. 284 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 2: So wow, insensitive? 285 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 4: Uh oh, well, it was a terrible president and a 286 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 4: terrible ex president said. 287 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: It, and it seemed like a really really nice guy. 288 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: You can be all those things, right, right, Yeah, you'd 289 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: be a great neighbor to have. You'd let him babysit 290 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: your kids, et cetera, et cetera. But foreign policy horrible absolutely, yah. 291 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, self righteous and just wrong about a lot of things, 292 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 4: But faithful and good husband and father. 293 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: That's okay. You don't have to hate people you disagree with. 294 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: Speaking of things to hate, I really do want to 295 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: get into the story out of Great Britain about the 296 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 4: incredible story of all the rape of young English girls 297 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 4: by Muslim immigrants and the systematic cover up of it 298 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: by the Government of Great Britain, from local police on 299 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: up to Westminster Abbey, and why it's a horrific tale. 300 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: You can hardly even believe it's true. Yeah, I'm glad 301 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: you've looked into it. 302 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: I haven't. 303 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of the headlines floating around social 304 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: media and I just didn't dig into it. 305 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, I want to hear that myself. 306 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 4: The Free Press is going big on it, and they're 307 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: just absolutely terrific, and you know, they're founded by a 308 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 4: couple of moderate lefty lesbian women. They are no you know, 309 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 4: bombchuckers the right, Speaking of which, you know Jack your 310 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 4: question about what is the woke right? I haven't dug 311 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: into it much, just because one of the great things 312 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: about unplugging over the holiday break was that, you know, 313 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 4: I unplugged from social media and in particular Twitter to 314 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 4: a large extent, and then I jumped back on and 315 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 4: was reminded how everything is hair on fire all the time, right, 316 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 4: everybody's angry, as you know, and everything's a never ending battle. 317 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: Adding back to the question of how you take in 318 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: your inputs and where you get your mood from in 319 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: modern the modern world. 320 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: And apparently I don't think I do this in my 321 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: own life, but apparently observing some people, you can kind 322 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: of get addicted to that. What am I mad about today? 323 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: Who are we mad at today? As a group fight, 324 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: and you just engage in it all the time. 325 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 4: Right, Well, there's something really enervating, really exciting about being 326 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 4: in a battle. You know, I feel to some extent 327 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: like we are battling for the soul of the United States. 328 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I would agree that we are in a battle, 329 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: and I am Yeah, I don't know what enervating means, 330 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: but I think I'm mad. But but the daily little 331 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: things I don't get is into every day jumping on Right, 332 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: Which little example of this am I outraged about today? 333 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? I would agree. 334 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 4: The very basic definition of the wolf right is like 335 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: the wolk left, they have become convinced that this country 336 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: is irredeemable and evil and should be torn down. And 337 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: you know, for different reasons, going in a different direction 338 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: the horseshoe theory. When you get to the far ends 339 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: of the horseshoe, you're actually pretty close to each other. 340 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: It's like the crowd that thinks the West is irredeemable 341 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: and Putin's right, we need to save Christianity blah blah blah. 342 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: That's kind of a woke rightish thing. I guess, gotcha. Well, 343 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be in our lives for 344 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: the foreseeable future all kinds. 345 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: I think, no one for some but some kinds it 346 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: doesn't The kind of story that seems to be driving 347 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: the wolk right, and I don't blame them. Is this 348 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: British rape culture thing that we're going to tell you 349 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: about coming up, So stay tuned. 350 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 4: Armstrong and Geeddy. 351 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: So we talked a little bit earlier about what Joe's 352 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: doing Dry January, which is I feel like that's the 353 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: new I'm gonna quit smoking when I was young. Is 354 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna quit smoking with me? It's dry for now, 355 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: you arey for now, a you arey. The calendar doesn't 356 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: order me around. 357 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: There you go, huh, that's right. So somebody brought this up. 358 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: But what we call cousin Christmas where the Who family 359 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 1: gets together in Kansas and they said, are you going 360 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: to do seventy five hard? Somebody said I'm doing sixty medium? 361 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: And I didn't know what any of this was. Katie, 362 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: are you familiar with sony five hard? 363 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 4: I am perfect Well that eye roll who'd indicate yes. 364 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: Perfect Well, we'll talk about that next segment. Then maybe 365 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: you should might be you could start today do seventy 366 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: I can't, but maybe you'll do seventy five hard When 367 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: you hear about it now, I'm good. 368 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: Oh boy. 369 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 4: So I hesitate to bring this story up because it 370 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 4: is so awful, but it is important to know for 371 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 4: a couple of different reasons. We have touched on this 372 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: over the years several times and waited for the story 373 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 4: to blow up, and it hasn't. It is the story 374 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 4: of the systematic grooming and raping of thousands of young 375 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 4: English girls for years and years in Great Britain. A 376 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 4: couple of things before we get into it. This seems unbelievable. 377 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 4: I think you need to understand if you don't already, 378 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: and if we have any Brits listening certainly, or Europeans 379 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 4: in general, and you'd like to weigh in via email, 380 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 4: maybe mail bag at Armstrong and getty dot com. Email 381 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 4: us mailbag at Armstrong and getty dot com. Make the 382 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: subject line obvious so I can find it quickly. But 383 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 4: Great Britain much of your But Great Britain in particular 384 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: is like one giant college campus in terms of wokeism, 385 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 4: and like Europe, they conducted this experiment for the last 386 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 4: twenty years of importing millions and millions of people from 387 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 4: the Middle East and Africa, the rub being most of 388 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: them are Muslim and some fundamentalist, and that's its own problem, 389 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 4: but also just a different culture, and culture matters. We've 390 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: been talking about this for years and years and years. 391 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 4: Culture is more than like art and music in the 392 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: style of foods you serve. It is how we do things. 393 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 4: It is relationships. What is a man's relationship to his 394 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 4: wife that's informed by culture. My relationship to Judy is 395 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: very different than the average man and wife in Afghanistan, 396 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 4: for instance. Well, yeah, what is our relationship with sex, 397 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 4: with the police, with our government, with our neighbor, what 398 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 4: if we get into dispute. 399 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: Culture is all of those things. 400 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 4: So you have all these people from a completely different 401 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 4: culture who view women and girls, very very differently than 402 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 4: we do in the West. Flooding a country, and Europe 403 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 4: has been so terrified of clashes between or open like 404 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: you know, conflict between Muslim immigrants and Westerners. It has 405 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: gone like full on Columbia University woke. You can't criticize anybody, 406 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 4: you can't say anything, you can't do anything. We're just 407 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 4: gonna We're gonna just everybody's gonna be so nice. This 408 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 4: isn't going to be a problem, and it's become an 409 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: enormous problem. So you got to picture Britain as one 410 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 4: big Columbia University. Trust me when I say that's truer, 411 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: closer to truth than false. I'm gonna quote Dominic Green 412 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 4: here from The Free Press, which again is a wonderful 413 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: new independent news whose website and commentary website. It's Barry 414 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 4: Weiss's project with Nelly Bowles, her partner, I think wife, 415 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: who is like her, a moderate lefty, fiercely independent journalist 416 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: who believes in calling it as they see it and 417 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: not cow telling in any particular line. The headline is 418 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: the biggest peacetime crime and cover up in British history. 419 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 4: Dominic Green wrote it, the serial rape of thousands of 420 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 4: English girls went on for many years. Few in power 421 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: cared than Elon Musk started tweeting, And you know, like 422 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 4: it or not. If dude gets becomes aware of a 423 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 4: story and starts talking about it and tweeting about it, 424 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, the world pays attention. 425 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: This is one. 426 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 4: I can't think of a better way to proceed than 427 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 4: to quote mister Green's article here. The grooming and serial 428 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 4: rape of thousands of English girls by men of mostly 429 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 4: Pakistani Muslim background over several decades is the biggest peacetime 430 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 4: crime in the history of modern Europe. It went on 431 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: for many years, it is still going on, and there's 432 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 4: been no justice for the vast majority of the victims. 433 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 4: British governments, both conservative and labor, hoped that they had 434 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 4: buried the story after a few symbolic prosecutions in the 435 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 4: twenty tens, and it looked like they had succeeded until 436 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: Elon Musk read some of the court papers and tweeted 437 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 4: his disgusted and bafflement on x over the new year. 438 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: Britain now stands shamed before the world. 439 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 4: The public's suppressed wrath is bubbling to the surface in petitions, 440 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 4: calls for public inquiry and demands for accountability. The scandal 441 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 4: is already reshaping British politics. It's not just about the 442 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 4: heinous nature of the crimes, it's that every level of 443 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 4: the British system is implicated in the cover up. I'm 444 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 4: reading minds at this point, Jack, I'm guessing a lot 445 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 4: of our listeners are saying, I still haven't seen this 446 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 4: in the American press, right, and then you could probably 447 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: guess why we're not quite as freaked out as Europe. 448 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: But we are way down the road of. 449 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 4: Any criticism of an immigrant or an immigrant culture or 450 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 4: a different culture as racism and xenophobia, nationalism. 451 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: Any wrong, anything that's not white, male, Christian. 452 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, exactly, it's xenophilia. I suggest really strongly and everybody, 453 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: I think people who are honest with themselves try to 454 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 4: do this. Come to your conclusions based on the facts. 455 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 4: Don't come to your facts based on your conclusions. If 456 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 4: something is true, it's true, deal with it. If men 457 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 4: of Pakistani Muslim origin or raping young girls in Britain, 458 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: deal with it. 459 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: Anyway. 460 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: Social workers were intimidated into silence, Local police ignored, excused, 461 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 4: and even embedded pedophile rapists across dozens of cities. Senior 462 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: police and Home Office officials deliberately avoided action in the 463 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 4: name of maintaining what they called community relations. Local councilors 464 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 4: and members of Parliament rejected pleas for help from the 465 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 4: parents of raped children, charities, non governmental organizations and labor MPs. 466 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 4: That's your minister's of Parliament accuse those who discussed the 467 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: scandal of racism and islamophobia. The media mostly ignored or 468 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: downplayed the biggest story of their lifetimes. Zealous in their incuriosity, 469 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: much of Britain's media elite balanced or remained barnacled to 470 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 4: the bubble of Westminster politics and its self serving priorities. 471 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: They did this to defend a failed model of multiculturalism 472 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: and to avoid asking hard questions about failures of immigration 473 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 4: policy and assimilation. They did this because they were afraid 474 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 4: of being called racist or islamophobic. They did this because 475 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 4: Britain's traditional class snobbery has had fused with the new 476 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 4: snobbery of political correctness. 477 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: Does that sound familiar? 478 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: So let me jump in and try to understand this, 479 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: and maybe everybody else already understands it, But so if 480 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: I you got a Pakistani forty year old dude who 481 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: lives in a neighborhood, an apartment or a house or whatever. 482 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 2: Who is he raping? 483 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: Is he raping the children of other Muslim families? 484 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: Who are they grooming? Who are they raping? Excellent question. 485 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 4: I was just about to get to that, but I'll 486 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 4: just go ahead and characterize it. What you have is 487 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 4: groups of these men who hang out together do whatever 488 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: they do together. And this is in large part, almost 489 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 4: not almost entirely, but in large large part in the 490 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 4: really rough post industrial call it rust belt northern English 491 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 4: towns where you've got a lot of poverty, orphans, drug abuse, 492 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 4: alcoholism among teens and that sort of thing. They target 493 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 4: the downtrodden girls, identify them, groom them, drug them, feed 494 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: them alcohol, and rape them over and over and over again, 495 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 4: then traffic them. Some of them end up dead. And 496 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 4: then the authorities are so terrified of being called this 497 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 4: that or the other, or of stirring up something that 498 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 4: would harm community relations, they soft pedaled it. 499 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: And there are stories. 500 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 4: And again this is not in some sort of wild eyed, 501 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 4: right wing crazy report. This is documented stuff being written 502 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 4: about right now in the free press. And this has 503 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 4: been going on since the nineteen sixties and really got 504 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 4: bad in the seventies. These men targeted the most vulnerable girls, 505 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 4: the poor and the fatherless children in care homes that's orphanages, 506 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 4: with candy, food, taxi rides, drugs. 507 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: They raped the girls, passed. 508 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 4: Them around family and friendship networks, pimped them into similar 509 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 4: networks in other cities, then discarded them as they reached 510 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: the age of consent. This pattern was repeating in as 511 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 4: many as fifty cities across the country, including in Leafy 512 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 4: Oxford and Liberal Bristol. A twenty fourteen inquiry estimated that 513 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 4: fourteen hundred girls had been serially raped in Rotherham alone, 514 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 4: which is the industrial city that all of this first 515 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 4: became really known and talked about. Here's a story about Sophie, 516 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 4: a twelve year old girl in Oldham entered a police station. 517 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 4: This is going to be tough to take. By the way, 518 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 4: if the kids are less listening, have them stop. You 519 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: can explain the horrors of the world later in their lives. 520 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 4: Twelve year old girl named Sophie entered a police station, 521 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: reported that she had just been molested in a graveyard 522 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 4: by a man named Ali. Desk officer told her to 523 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 4: come back with an adult. When she was sober. Two 524 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 4: men accosted her in the police station, joined by a third. 525 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 4: They raped her in their car. When they dumped her 526 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 4: on the street, she asked for a name name a 527 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 4: man named Sarwan Ali for directions. He took her to 528 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 4: his home, raped her, gave her money for bus fair home. 529 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 4: A man named Shaquil Chowdery pulled up in his car 530 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 4: offered to take her home. He abducted her and took 531 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 4: her to a house where he and four other men 532 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 4: repeatedly raped her. This is a twelve year old girl 533 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 4: in Britain, all covered up from the local politicians to 534 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 4: the cops, to Westminster Abbey in the name of not 535 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 4: admitting their immigration policies had failed. 536 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: The working people of England miserably. So I saw this. 537 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: Popping up on Twitter. Elon Musk's platform, as he is 538 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: the guy that is like alerted the United States and 539 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: some of the world to this story. So he got 540 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: he came across the court documents from a case about this. Yeah, 541 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: so this stuff was I mean, you can't get more 542 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: credible than that. This is from the actual court documents. 543 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: It's not from some like you said, right wing anti 544 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: Muslim Twitter feed. 545 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 4: When was the court case? How many years ago that 546 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 4: he came across I couldn't tell you. I don't know 547 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: this specific. 548 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: I don't remember. 549 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 1: I'm trying to wrap my head around how when that 550 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: court case was going on it didn't blow up into 551 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: the biggest story in England or the world. 552 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: For the reasons we've been talking about, the elite, including 553 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 4: the elite media, are intensely uncomfortable with this storyline because 554 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 4: it did hints toward, you know, the stuff of bigotry 555 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 4: and prejudice, an anti immigrant sentiment, and they refuse to 556 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 4: give it fuel, even if it's one hundred percent true. 557 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 4: A couple more facts on that very question. The majority 558 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: of the victims were white, plus some Seekhs. The majority 559 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 4: of their abusers were a Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslim extraction. 560 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 4: The majority of their crimes were committed in cities with 561 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 4: a Labor Party controlled council and a Labor Party MP 562 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 4: who needed Muslim votes. This led to institutional racism of 563 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 4: the inverted kind that enabled the perpetrators to do as 564 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: they like. The system itself became corrupted. Welfare workers admit 565 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 4: that they failed to report crimes because the police told 566 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 4: them that they would be accused as racist. A leader 567 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: of one freaking week I know, you know if you've 568 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 4: looked into the eyes of a girl who's been raped 569 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 4: repeatedly by a group of guys and you can keep 570 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 4: your mouth shut because it might look bad. 571 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: Boy, you're a different sort of person than me. 572 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 4: Good lord, you know that relates to another story I 573 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 4: want to do probably tomorrow about why the US is 574 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 4: whooping butt on Europe economically speaking, and believe it or not, 575 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: it kind of relates to this case. But the leader 576 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 4: of one rape gang in Oldhams, Shabir Ahmed, worked for 577 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 4: a local council as a welfare rights officer and ran 578 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 4: his gang from the government offices. Another member was on 579 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 4: the Oldham Youth Council. In multiple cases, local libor politicians 580 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 4: of Pakistani background interfered with police inquiry. I think you've 581 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 4: gotten the flavor of this. There's much much more and 582 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: the stories again. Twenty sixteen inquiry said that at least 583 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 4: fourteen hundred young British girls had been raped in this 584 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: manner and that was years ago and it's. 585 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: Still going on. So I got a couple of questions 586 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: about this. 587 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: We should take a break, and I'll bet some of 588 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: you might have some questions or comments on the text 589 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: line because I and then yeah, a little more on 590 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 1: this coming up. 591 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: Not the funniest thing we've ever done. 592 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: Here's the text line for two nine five KFTC. 593 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: Stay here. 594 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: So for a lot of you, and this is a 595 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: very serious adult topic we're into right now in case 596 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: you just joined us. 597 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: For a lot of. 598 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: You, you knew this story, uh, the serial raping of 599 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: young girls in Great Britain and perhaps in the United States. 600 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: We'll get into that maybe later. 601 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: But Elon started tweeting about it a lot over the 602 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: weekend for whatever reason. 603 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: Did he just come across this information? Is that what happened? 604 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 4: I think so, yeah, he became aware of it. And 605 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 4: I can't find this specific case because again there were many, many, hundreds, 606 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 4: couple thousand young English girls systematically raped and still are today. 607 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: And somebody came forward and it was enough to make 608 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: it to a court case, and you know, actually I 609 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: have a trial. Anyway, Elon was reading the actual documents 610 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: that came out of this trial and like, how have 611 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: I never heard of this? 612 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: How is this a bigger deal. 613 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: And it's been going on and for a long time, 614 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: still going on today. So here's my question, one of 615 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: my many questions about this. 616 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: So these. 617 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: Muslim men who came to Great Britain, was this the 618 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: sort of thing they did back in their own countries 619 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: and it was accepted there? Or did they They couldn't 620 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: have gotten away with it, They couldn't have gotten away 621 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: with it in their own country. But they come to 622 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: a country like the United States or Great Britain, where 623 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: our laws and culture are so open. 624 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: You can get away with it. 625 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: Well, they were in a culture in Britain's way worse 626 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 4: than the US, although the US is heading in that direction. 627 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 4: They went to a culture that was terrified of calling 628 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 4: them out for what they were doing, for reasons of 629 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 4: not wanting to be bigoted or anti Islamic, or cause 630 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 4: conflict or to lose the votes in some of these 631 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 4: heavily Muslim parts of England. So it was the most 632 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 4: cold hearted and selfish sorts of politics that motivated turning 633 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 4: blind eye. 634 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a couple of texts. A big thing. 635 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: The big thing is you have Muslims in key political 636 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: positions that prey on these girls too. As you just said. 637 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: But so I'm just trying to figure out because most 638 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: of us would even if it was legalized today, most 639 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: of us would not do this. 640 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 4: All right, including most Muslims. They would find it absolutely abhorrent. 641 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 4: It's worth saying. But the problem is when you, for 642 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 4: reasons of cultural prerogatives that you don't want to come 643 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 4: off as a nationalist or a xenophile or a racist, 644 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 4: regularly ignore the most horrific crimes against innocent girls to 645 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 4: preserve that narrative, you have become an evil monster. 646 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: To the question of why it isn't being talked about 647 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: more now, because you'd think once Elon blew the lid 648 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: off of it, it would be like leading the CBS 649 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: Evening News or something. But there is something that goes on, 650 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: apparently in the human mind or society or something. If 651 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: something is too big or awful, we just move on. 652 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: It's kind of like the way we have with the pandemic. 653 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: It's just so big and awful, eh, and just move on, 654 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: never mind. And we did it with the pandemic of 655 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen two, and this might be one of those 656 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: it's just too big and awful to deal with. 657 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 2: I think there is some of that. 658 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 4: I think the other aspect of it, particularly in terms 659 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 4: of the media, is that it would be fairly easy 660 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 4: to portray a legitimate description of what is going on 661 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 4: and what has gone on as anti Islamic, as Islamophobic, 662 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 4: as anti immigrant, as bigoted, as racist, just an you 663 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 4: could portray an accurate discussion of it. 664 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 2: In that way. 665 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 4: And trust me, as a guy who does this for 666 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 4: a living, I'm aware of that as we're doing it. 667 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 4: And so if you have an entire media complex that's 668 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 4: already predisposed to not saying anything nasty about immigrants in general, 669 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 4: or Muslims or whatever, you combine that with that paranoia. 670 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 2: They're gonna call me a racist in my career is 671 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: going to be over. 672 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: You get silence, boy, that's a heck of any interesting thing. 673 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: Elon has got the benefit of, you know, he's too 674 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: rich to care what anybody thinks about what he says. 675 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 676 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 4: Well, and if we ever disappear, folks, just google and 677 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 4: bing all day long till you find our new podcast. 678 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 2: There'll be one. 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