WEBVTT - Maximizing Your Income in 2023 #623

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel Matt and today

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<v Speaker 1>we're telling you how to maximize your income. I like

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<v Speaker 1>how you added three under the end of the title

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<v Speaker 1>there want to be this year? Man. Well, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>what's crazy is I feel like this could be an

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<v Speaker 1>episode that we would have or should have or could

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<v Speaker 1>have done like five years ago. This is it's a

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<v Speaker 1>more general type of episode, but honestly, it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrates our tendencies, like our personal tendencies, like you and

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<v Speaker 1>I were pretty frugal dudes, and because of that, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we do tend to talk about topics that lean

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<v Speaker 1>more and the cutting back side of the equation when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to your personal finances. Right, But this is

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<v Speaker 1>a topic that we need to talk about more, and

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<v Speaker 1>we are remedying that. Today. We're gonna talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>you can maximize your income this year, how you can

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<v Speaker 1>make more money. I'm excited to discuss this today. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think, by the way, some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about on today's episode, You're right, like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a topic we can talk about at any time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think three is a year where there are

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<v Speaker 1>there's extremely low hanging fruit more so than than most times.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, we'll get into that too. That is true, man.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So I've got a little story for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was story time was my favorite. Pull up a chair,

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<v Speaker 1>have a seat on the floor, criss cross apple sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was biking home yesterday, bikro home from work,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am lucky then and that there's a path

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<v Speaker 1>like a walker jogger bike path that goes all the

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<v Speaker 1>way basically from our office from our little clubhouse here

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<v Speaker 1>all the way home. And I was approaching an intersection

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<v Speaker 1>like a you know, where a road crosses over the

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<v Speaker 1>path when ahead started to bike across it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>look up and and there's a car coming at me

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quick, and I'm thinking, surely this guy's gonna stops

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<v Speaker 1>right for you. Well, there's a stop sign there for

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<v Speaker 1>him as well, so like, I mean, by law, he

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<v Speaker 1>has to stop. But no, he did not, dude, And

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<v Speaker 1>he got within maybe like two and a half feet.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was freaking close. I was pretty mad,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty passed right in the moment um. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, whatever, kind of got all grumpy,

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<v Speaker 1>kept biking, and he had turned the direction that I

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<v Speaker 1>happened to be going as well, and so I caught

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<v Speaker 1>up to him at the stoplight and I decided, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm gonna have a few words with this Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just I pulled up next to him

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<v Speaker 1>on the passenger side of the car and knocked on

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<v Speaker 1>the window, and I was just like, hey, I told

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<v Speaker 1>him what's up. I mean in a in a kind way,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just wanted to let him know that man,

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<v Speaker 1>he he almost took me out, but I I guess

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to ask you. This made me think

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<v Speaker 1>of how we often do frugal or cheaps on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you feel that I was being um like

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<v Speaker 1>a jerk bike commuter or was I just being a

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<v Speaker 1>concerned biking advocate who was politely informing this guy that

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<v Speaker 1>of of his actions, Like, I mean, what would you

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<v Speaker 1>have done? Do you think in that really close to

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<v Speaker 1>me in a car when I was on a bike

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<v Speaker 1>like that, like and I felt endangered? Then yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>would hopefully I would take a moment to calm down

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<v Speaker 1>like you did, and then knock on the I mean

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<v Speaker 1>window and didn't have a conversation, But I think luckily

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<v Speaker 1>I had a stretch of biking to where I think

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to burn off a little bit because, like,

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<v Speaker 1>had he stopped right in the moment, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>would have been like, hey, man, did he how did

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<v Speaker 1>he respond? When he talked so okay? It seemed he

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<v Speaker 1>was genuinely shocked, And so what I asked him, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, did you know that you got really

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<v Speaker 1>close to me? Like I wasn't I was being kind,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't looking for a fight. Again, I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of I was in my in my

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<v Speaker 1>right mind at that point, Like when I knocked on

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<v Speaker 1>his window and I knocked on it gently, you know, kindly,

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<v Speaker 1>But I was just like, hey, do you realize that

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<v Speaker 1>you got really close to me back there at the

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<v Speaker 1>at the stop sign? And he looked at me just

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<v Speaker 1>with shock, like horror on his face. He's like, no way,

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<v Speaker 1>did I really? He's a teenage driver. Does not seem

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<v Speaker 1>that he has been been driving me very long? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And so the lesson for him, and honestly, exactly, there

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<v Speaker 1>are much worse ways to learn that lessons. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. I just wanted to like educate him and

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<v Speaker 1>to inform him that, like, man, there are other bikers

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<v Speaker 1>out here, I'm not the only one, and he's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to learn and maybe pay a

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<v Speaker 1>little more attention. I don't know how he didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>me though, I mean literally, I we never locked eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was right there. Teenage drivers you never know

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<v Speaker 1>and completely distract even non teenage sharpers. Just everyone looking

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<v Speaker 1>at their phones more and more driving, even though it's

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<v Speaker 1>illegal in many states. And but yeah, yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to share that, I guess too, just to like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to scare folks. Um, this doesn't happen

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<v Speaker 1>very often, but I do think it is important to

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<v Speaker 1>watch out. Um. I think it's a reminder to me

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<v Speaker 1>as well to consider even like turning all my blinky's

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<v Speaker 1>like during the day, because I do think, okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if I had those flashing you know, on the front,

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<v Speaker 1>they're switching it because during the daytime you can switch

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<v Speaker 1>it to flashing at night and always keep it on

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<v Speaker 1>solid to actually light up the road light up the path.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, you know what, I want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>those blinky's on even during the day, just to make

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<v Speaker 1>yourself a little more visible. It's even I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was during the day when I was riding home but

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<v Speaker 1>it's still kind of in the winner where it's still

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little darker by the time we get out

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<v Speaker 1>of bike safety matters you keeping yourself safe, but then

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<v Speaker 1>also hopefully kindly educating other people in the road. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>bikers exist, even up here to the Burbs where we live,

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<v Speaker 1>there's bikers, and I like seeing bikers on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to see more people feeling free to

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<v Speaker 1>bike those roads because, like we actually talked about last week.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of last week, we talked about just

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<v Speaker 1>how jammed jammed these roads are with congestion, and we

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<v Speaker 1>need more bikes on the road to relieve some of

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<v Speaker 1>that congestion. But drivers have to be courteous to make

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<v Speaker 1>that our possibilities right, Well, all right, but I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>you're okay, uh, and thank you. Thanks for Matt storytime.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on. Let's mention the beer we're having on

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. This one is called Painting Dreams by Fighting's Brewing.

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<v Speaker 1>Will give our thoughts on this one at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the episode is a West Coast IPM. So you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I meant to do was since uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>last episode to this episode, I was planning to look

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<v Speaker 1>up how to actually pronounce the name of this burner,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would feel so bad if we're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>the name right, because, as we will share later on,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a fantastic beer and I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure they get all the props. I can't imagine there

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<v Speaker 1>are too many possibilities for the pronunciation. Yeah, something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's I would think it'd be fittings if it

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<v Speaker 1>was two days, but it's one, So you never know.

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<v Speaker 1>God with a hearty, it's a proper name. They could say,

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<v Speaker 1>you say it in a way that sounds good. They could,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, but let's help every right, Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>maxing income, Matt. That's the topic for today's episode, and

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<v Speaker 1>and and in particular, there are specific ways that we

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<v Speaker 1>think that people are going to have extra abilities to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, and I'm sure there are at least a

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<v Speaker 1>few how the Money listeners who have set out goals

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<v Speaker 1>already this year, and maybe one of those for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people is to lose weight. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a common one. I mean, there are just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of folks out there who want to shed some pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope that endeavors going well so far. If

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<v Speaker 1>that's something you've you've you've chosen to do, you're working on.

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<v Speaker 1>But Matt, let's say, you know, just imagine if some

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<v Speaker 1>of those folks they were only focusing on eating less,

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<v Speaker 1>if they were just intent on cutting their calorie intake,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's the only way they were trying to achieve

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<v Speaker 1>that goal. Is that going to help him out? Sure? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna make some some of the difference in helping

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<v Speaker 1>you lose some weight. But focusing solely on that one

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<v Speaker 1>route to weight loss is also going to have some

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<v Speaker 1>massive shortcomings. Right, there's this whole other realm that you're

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<v Speaker 1>leaving untouched, namely exercise. Cutting calories is great. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife, she says weight Watchers is super helpful when

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<v Speaker 1>she's trying to lose a few pounds. She she likes

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<v Speaker 1>to go there and kind of type in what she's

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<v Speaker 1>eating on the app. It helps her kind of hit

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<v Speaker 1>her diet on all cylinders so that she's to attract

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<v Speaker 1>that data. Yeah, for sure, I get it. But she's

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<v Speaker 1>also hitting up the gym four times a week, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So she's taken the both and approach, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna help you get there a whole lot faster.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think similarly, frugality, like you've talked about, like

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<v Speaker 1>we that's something that we talked about a lot on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, but it can only get you so far.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, you can't cut expenses anymore, or you're

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<v Speaker 1>eating just rice and beans. You're you've you've boiled it down,

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<v Speaker 1>You've reduced your budget to such an extent that you're

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<v Speaker 1>completely unhappy, right, and so you've got to grow your

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<v Speaker 1>income in order to make more progress on your financial goals.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we're gonna give a slew of thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>how you can maximize your earning potential in the year

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<v Speaker 1>ahead on today's episode. That's right, And you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said earlier, I think you and I both leaned

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<v Speaker 1>towards frugality. But whether or not that's your tendency, it

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<v Speaker 1>just comes down to your own finality. But like you said, frugality,

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<v Speaker 1>it won't pay the bills. Uh. And if you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get a handle on your spending, it's also going to

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<v Speaker 1>be impossible to out earn that crappy habit. So both

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<v Speaker 1>of those are important. And another problem for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of folks is that they want to make more money,

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<v Speaker 1>but they just don't know how to make more money? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so many of the ideas that come up when

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<v Speaker 1>you you know, when you google this, like how do

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<v Speaker 1>I make more money? The results are oftentimes going to

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<v Speaker 1>be crap drop shipping on Amazon. It's like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>earn uh more per year by staying home. And they

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<v Speaker 1>almost all involved like trading your time for money, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is something that we all have to do to

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<v Speaker 1>a certain extent. But time is a limited resource. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the few limited resources that we have

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives, and we can't do that in perpetuity.

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<v Speaker 1>And so today we're gonna offer some of the most

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<v Speaker 1>practical advice that we have for increasing your income. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>again cutting back it feels like something that is accessible

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody. I think oftentimes folks, including us, tend to

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<v Speaker 1>lean towards that because it just seems very redoable. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think everyone feels that way when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to increasing their income. To them, it feels like one

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<v Speaker 1>hole too far or I don't know, one more hurdle

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<v Speaker 1>that they have to jump. It doesn't seem like it's

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<v Speaker 1>nearly as accessible. But we are here to say that

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<v Speaker 1>we think it is. And that's why we're dedicating an

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<v Speaker 1>entire episode towards increasing your income, and well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the advice that we give about frugality

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<v Speaker 1>is applicable to nearly of the people listening, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to earning more, well, so much depends

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<v Speaker 1>on the industry you're in and how long you've been

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and uh, there's just so many other factors.

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<v Speaker 1>But so we're gonna try to give them most broad

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<v Speaker 1>based advice so we can on on today's episode when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to how to earn more. You probably won't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to take every single one of these tips

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<v Speaker 1>and implemented into your life. But if you can just take,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a few of these and try them out

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<v Speaker 1>at your place of employments or as you're shopping the

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<v Speaker 1>open job market, you can find that it will lead

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<v Speaker 1>to meaningful increases in income. And this might be intuitive map,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like it's worth saying out loud. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about investing a lot too in regards in addition

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<v Speaker 1>to frugality, but it's a lot harder to invest when

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a major income when you're not making enough,

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<v Speaker 1>and some folks are just way overthinking, like their asset allocation.

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<v Speaker 1>When they're only investing let's say a few hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe a thousand dollars a year, they're hoping to

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<v Speaker 1>to coax outside returns out of the dollars that they're

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<v Speaker 1>putting into their investments. And and these folks and a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of others would truly be much better served

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<v Speaker 1>by working towards increasing their investable cash flow by making

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<v Speaker 1>more money than by optimizing their investments or finding yet

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<v Speaker 1>another way to cut back on their expenses so that

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<v Speaker 1>they could invest a touch more. Exactly. Yeah, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd say, tendcects on Netflix, when what you're leaving on

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<v Speaker 1>the table oftentimes is the potential to earn thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars more a re single year, way more than that

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix spell. And so instead of spending hours investing obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>over which which streaming service to cut, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obsessing over which funds to stick your dollars into an

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to choice those returns, the payback is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be higher if you instead look to increase your income

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<v Speaker 1>and you just stick to the boring investments that we

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<v Speaker 1>always talk about. You're not going to get rich via

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<v Speaker 1>the investment decisions you make. You're gonna get rich via

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<v Speaker 1>your work and your income by increasing that income and

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<v Speaker 1>the ability then to invest more of it. That's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an instance where you want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you're asking the right questions. You want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you're asking the thirty thousand dollar question, not

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty dollar question. Sometimes we can get so preoccupied

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<v Speaker 1>with the details that we we missed the bigger thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's lying there in front of us um. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the good news is that the job market right now

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty hot. If you're someone looking for new work,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a strong position. The job market is like

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<v Speaker 1>Hansel and zooland so high right now. Last year was

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<v Speaker 1>the second best year for job growth in U S history.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite many predictions of a souring job market, they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really materialized. There have been some layoffs happening that we

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<v Speaker 1>hear about that that get all the headline attention um,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically from a few specific tech companies, but they've been

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<v Speaker 1>fairly minimal um. And there are still one point seven

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<v Speaker 1>jobs available per job seeker. So that means that if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you're out there looking, you have your pick

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<v Speaker 1>of the litter. To a certain degree. Um, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we joel like, we took a trip recently and we

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<v Speaker 1>were still passing bonuses being written on you know, pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of paper in fast food windows that are still windows

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's are still saying, hey, look extra five hundred bucks

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<v Speaker 1>or a thousand bucks just for coming to work here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's in addition to higher normal hourly wages too, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of employers who are still looking

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<v Speaker 1>to fill empty positions. And you know what, while many

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that will discuss Intudy's episode will be

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<v Speaker 1>applicable uh next year and the year after that as well,

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<v Speaker 1>you do have more ability in the current market to

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<v Speaker 1>increase your your income because of how hot the job

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<v Speaker 1>market is. Um, it's not quite as nice as it

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<v Speaker 1>was seven to eight months ago, but workers still have

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<v Speaker 1>massive leverage to get paid more today for sure. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that does make me think, like, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>know if you're being underpaid? Because that's probably a really

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<v Speaker 1>important thing to ask question. You might be at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of your profession right now. You might be the

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<v Speaker 1>equivalent of the air and judge for the New York Yankees,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just you're you're hitting like he's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to make more money than when he got

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<v Speaker 1>this past offseason in that labor market, and like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's gonna be able to say, well, actually double your pay,

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<v Speaker 1>come on over here. He's at the top of his profession.

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<v Speaker 1>But how would you even find out if you're not well.

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<v Speaker 1>It helps to know what's going on in the market

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<v Speaker 1>in order to be able to maximize the utility of

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<v Speaker 1>our time and our skills. Like, for instance, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of truck drivers and folks in the service industry, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about math, they've seen rate pay rates rise

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<v Speaker 1>significantly over the past year. Part of it is though

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<v Speaker 1>sign up bonuses. Part of it is just more robust

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<v Speaker 1>starting salaries. But it's massively helpful to pay attention to

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<v Speaker 1>the current trends when shifts are happening in your industry.

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<v Speaker 1>That way you can know whether or not you are

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid appropriately. And so if you're looking for resources

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<v Speaker 1>that can be continually helpful, we'd say sites like glass

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<v Speaker 1>door or even just producing job postings on the web

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<v Speaker 1>that include salary ranges, they can help you see what

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<v Speaker 1>the pay ranges for some more positions to yours. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are good ways to kind of figure out what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the market and where am I at in

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<v Speaker 1>relation to it. That can help you just assess where

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<v Speaker 1>you fall on the scale and how much potential there

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<v Speaker 1>is for you to increase your income, even if in

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<v Speaker 1>the end you opted not to make any changes based

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<v Speaker 1>on some of the recommendations were about to give. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and also I think just talking about money, hopefully that

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<v Speaker 1>is something that you've done with your friends, that's something

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that you've done with your coworkers. And if that's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if those are discussions that you're having, then I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be easier for you to determine whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not you're getting paid well compared to your your coworkers. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, if there's a you're at a company and

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<v Speaker 1>that you know there are some new hires and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you realize that they're getting paid more than

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<v Speaker 1>what what you're getting paid, and you've been there for

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<v Speaker 1>six months, maybe a year, year and a half, well

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's maybe it's time for you for there

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<v Speaker 1>to be a discussion. You know, like if if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't talked to your boss, if you haven't gotten um

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<v Speaker 1>like a performance review, that's a bad sign. That's Okay, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it seems like your your pay has been

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<v Speaker 1>been stagnant, and this is beyond maybe just even just

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<v Speaker 1>the standard cost of living basic percentage increases that most

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<v Speaker 1>folks oftentimes yet and that's just what we'll talk specifically

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<v Speaker 1>about negotiating at your current job or and how to

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<v Speaker 1>go about effectively increasing your pay if you find yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in a position like that. But what you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>kind of still is is just the market research portion

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Yeah, market research, and just I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think a part of that market research is just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it with other folks that's not only relying

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<v Speaker 1>on glass door indeed linked in different job sites, which

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<v Speaker 1>are all very important. You want a bunch of data

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<v Speaker 1>points really exactly like you want the Internet, but you

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<v Speaker 1>also want real life, real life data as well. Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that's worth considering is how to use the

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<v Speaker 1>new pay transparency laws to your advantage as well when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to making more money. A few of those

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<v Speaker 1>went on the books in early three including in California,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's in addition to two others I think New

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<v Speaker 1>York as well, that have been passed by other states

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<v Speaker 1>prior years. But when California gets into something because just

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<v Speaker 1>of this the sheer size of the state. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>a tenth of all Americans like live in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of California. I think it's like the fifth or sixth

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<v Speaker 1>largest economy in the world if it was its own country.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's massive influence. Yeah, it's got all these

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<v Speaker 1>ripple effects on everywhere else, on all the other states.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So this year, you're going to see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more pay ranges listed on Internet job boards and listings. Granted,

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<v Speaker 1>some of those pay ranges they're not always gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>helpful because the spread it's so ridiculously between Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what that means, but I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>they'll function sort of as a backstop, maybe some back

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<v Speaker 1>of the napkin math to help you to to see

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<v Speaker 1>where you're pay stacks up against others within your industry. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>those pay transparency laws, they're not necessarily some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>bulletproof thing that's going to aid you in this negotiation,

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<v Speaker 1>but you are. The more you produce those boards, the

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<v Speaker 1>more you see those pay ranges listed. It is again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those other data points, and you want

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<v Speaker 1>as many as you can to help you understand what

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<v Speaker 1>the market is paying for people in position similar to

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<v Speaker 1>yours or the position that you want to have. That

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<v Speaker 1>can be just another arrow in your quiver so that

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<v Speaker 1>you are able to negotiate for higher pay for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And and because of some of these new laws, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>unlisted jobs are actually starting to become more common. I

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<v Speaker 1>think some people are trying to avoid having to post

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<v Speaker 1>the pay. Some employers are trying to avoid having to

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<v Speaker 1>spell it out, Hey, this is what we pay for

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<v Speaker 1>these these jobs. But a lot of the unlisted jobs

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<v Speaker 1>are actually six figure jobs. There are actually jobs that

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<v Speaker 1>pay really well. How do you get one of these

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<v Speaker 1>jobs if they're unlisted? Then a little more word of mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it? Yeah? Exactly. A lot of how you actually

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<v Speaker 1>go about getting one of those is having a good

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<v Speaker 1>network in place so that you're notified when an awesome

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<v Speaker 1>job comes along that you're a good fit for. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk more about how to do that, along

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of other tips for how to maximize

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<v Speaker 1>your income this year. We'll get to all that right

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<v Speaker 1>after this. A right, man, we are back from the break,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's talk about how you can ensure that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make more money this year at your place of

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<v Speaker 1>employer a mint and if you don't, you could sue Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no guarantee this episode. We can give your email

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of this episode. But we just talked

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<v Speaker 1>about how it's really important to know the market. It's

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<v Speaker 1>important to know the pay ranges that are out there,

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<v Speaker 1>to to know the salaries of similar jobs as yours

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<v Speaker 1>given the degree of experience that you have. That's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like an external factor to keep in mind. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's also important to pay attention to the internal factors

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<v Speaker 1>as well. It's important to make yourself more valuable in

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<v Speaker 1>the market. And by that I mean is it's not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily about getting an expensive advanced degree or learning new skills, right,

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<v Speaker 1>although those can be smart approaches depending on what industry

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<v Speaker 1>you're in, what job it is that you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm kind of talking about first of all, like

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<v Speaker 1>your mindset, your work ethic, and what you add to

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<v Speaker 1>the company is what is going to make you promotable. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you may not be gunning for like a

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<v Speaker 1>like the position of CEO, but many of the top

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<v Speaker 1>companies have leaders that moved that slowly moved up the

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<v Speaker 1>ranks in the company over the course of years and decades.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's important to keep in mind that it

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to the value that you're able to provide

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<v Speaker 1>the company. But also it's important to develop an owner's mentality,

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<v Speaker 1>like JACKO. Willing calls extreme ownership right, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is just a good way to live in general, but

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<v Speaker 1>very very helpful if you're trying to make more money. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what is going to get you recognized

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<v Speaker 1>by your your manager, by your boss, because it often

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna make them look better as well, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna want to keep They're gonna want more people

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<v Speaker 1>like you working under them, working on their team, and

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<v Speaker 1>just finding ways to make yourself indispensable by by going

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<v Speaker 1>above and beyond, is going to make your current job

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<v Speaker 1>not only more secure, but it's gonna put you in

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<v Speaker 1>line for better positions as they become available. Um you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, shoot, they may even create a new job,

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<v Speaker 1>a new position for you, if you're good enough. I

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<v Speaker 1>say all that the small caveat there's a fine balance

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<v Speaker 1>there because going above and beyond that also sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>working more. And so it's not necessarily that we want

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<v Speaker 1>you to only work more hours, but work additional time

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<v Speaker 1>or put extra effort in in a way that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to reap you the greatest room. Don't want to like

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<v Speaker 1>give sweat, blood and tears in perpetuity for no return

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<v Speaker 1>on your effort to an employer, because that's like the

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<v Speaker 1>old model, right, and I think like the new model

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<v Speaker 1>is quite quitting. But there's a balance of like, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're working, you're working hard, right, and you're doing good,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're doing your best what cal Newport he says,

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<v Speaker 1>be so good they can't ignore you. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the better you are at your job, the more results

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to provide that has tangible rewards. And I

0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.080
<v Speaker 1>think maybe, uh that that's gotten a little lost in

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<v Speaker 1>a shuffle as we talk about how to increase pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Oftentimes it is just the external find out how much

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<v Speaker 1>your worth and go get it somewhere else. But sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it is just being better and improving yourself and what

0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you're able to provide to your card employer in the

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<v Speaker 1>here and now. That makes a difference to Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a degree of discipline that you can bring

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<v Speaker 1>to your job. I think, I mean, we know some

0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.200
<v Speaker 1>folks and they will readily admit there, and they say

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, I don't really work hard, Like my my

0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:53.040
<v Speaker 1>job is kind of a joke. It's it's a non

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<v Speaker 1>factor in the joy and the satisfaction that it brings me.

0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I do the work and I get paid. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>very clear that there's either not a path for those

0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:05.840
<v Speaker 1>folks to advance or you're just not interested. You're you're

0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:07.760
<v Speaker 1>happy with the status quo. Maybe you make enough to

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<v Speaker 1>live a comfortable life. Um, but it's just it's so

0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:12.040
<v Speaker 1>important to keep in mind that may not always be

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<v Speaker 1>the case. Uh. Things might change. Maybe your partner is

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<v Speaker 1>no longer able to work after uh for for various reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>But basically, I do think that there is a level

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<v Speaker 1>of intensity and discipline that you can bring to your job.

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<v Speaker 1>But depending on what you want your career to look like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think developing more hard skills might be necessary. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like the ninja skills I just acquired. Absolutely I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pay raise for those, right. Yeah, Okay, you took a

0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:38.520
<v Speaker 1>class in order to learn those skills, but that that

0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:40.240
<v Speaker 1>is what we're talking about. We're talking about taking like

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<v Speaker 1>courses or getting certifications. I think those can go a

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<v Speaker 1>long way depending on your industry. But before you go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and apply to get an m b A,

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<v Speaker 1>which by the way, it can cost a ton of

0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:52.320
<v Speaker 1>stinking money, it's important to weigh the pros and the

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.359
<v Speaker 1>cons and to determine to see if there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a way that you can get that training, uh for free,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least maybe you can get it on the cheap.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, maybe your employer will help pay for the

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:08.720
<v Speaker 1>skills that you're looking to acquire. If so, obviously take

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.160
<v Speaker 1>them up on that. That's a fantastic benefit that your

0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:15.040
<v Speaker 1>employer can offer. But just be careful before taking on debts,

0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:18.280
<v Speaker 1>specifically not to mention the time that you're spending as well,

0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 1>but just the cost associated with getting that degree. Um

0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.560
<v Speaker 1>thinking that you know, the hope of these skills might

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<v Speaker 1>someday come in handy, I think that can be a

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<v Speaker 1>massive gamble. We were were always for self improvement in

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<v Speaker 1>finding ways to make ourselves better folks, but we're also

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<v Speaker 1>looking to make sure that we can do that on

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<v Speaker 1>the cheap. We want you to to have more certainty

0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:42.320
<v Speaker 1>about how these hard skills that you're requiring, how they

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<v Speaker 1>will impact your future before you go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>show out some big bucks. Yeah. Like so Emily, I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this before. She my wife. She is in

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<v Speaker 1>school grad school to become a licensed therapist, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>like additional training that she can take that is given

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<v Speaker 1>to her a massive discount to become certified in this

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<v Speaker 1>extra special niche right, and she has chosen to pursue

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 1>it one because it's inexpensive, and too because she can

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<v Speaker 1>see that people that get this certification get paid more

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:11.639
<v Speaker 1>in the future, and so it's the perfect time to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. If she were to wait until after she graduated,

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.199
<v Speaker 1>she pays full freight for that, And so, yeah, there

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:17.720
<v Speaker 1>are all sorts of little ways. Makes me think I

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.479
<v Speaker 1>had friends who worked at Starbucks, Matt. They were they

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:22.959
<v Speaker 1>were baristas, or they were even working their way up

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<v Speaker 1>in Starbucks, and they had access to free education. They

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:28.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't take it up at the time. Now they're paying

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<v Speaker 1>for it themselves out of pocket. And so when you

0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>have something like this that's offered from an employer, don't

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:36.440
<v Speaker 1>look at gift horse in the mouth, and you you

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 1>might want to reconsider whether or not the education you

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<v Speaker 1>can procure for for free or for cheap is is

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 1>in your best interest. In that case, I think they're

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:47.920
<v Speaker 1>just not looking at the gift horse at all. Inside

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>playing Nintendo. That's right for getting the gift horse exists altogether. Well.

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>And another thing too. You're talking about hard skills, but

0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 1>soft skills are important too, And it's not something that

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 1>we talked about enough, but emotional intelligence goes a long

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<v Speaker 1>way when it comes to getting paid more or moving

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 1>up the ladder in your career. Just that I Q

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 1>is that EQ as well? Yeah, And and something as

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>simple as knowing how to effectively participate in a team meeting.

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.439
<v Speaker 1>Like meetings are overrated, I get it, but they exist

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of workplaces, and so if you know

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>how to do it right like that can help. But

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 1>getting along well with your team members, having the ability

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.399
<v Speaker 1>to manage those relationships to inspire creativity and others to

0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 1>be I call it me. And the John Stockton who

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 1>was like a point guard for the Utah Jazz wasn't

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:28.400
<v Speaker 1>necessarily so much a scorer himself, but man, he disched

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 1>a ball well to everybody like he was the best passer,

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and so like the people that do that, he's still

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:34.919
<v Speaker 1>memorable because he was so good at that. And if

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you can be kind of the John Stockton of your

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 1>team at work. I think that goes a long way.

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>In addition, like taking and managing feedback from your superior

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>as well, that's a crucial skill to making faster career

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<v Speaker 1>progress too. We actually did a deep dive about some

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 1>of these like unspoken rules to to work place success

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>with Gorik ng back in episode four fifteen. So if

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:56.439
<v Speaker 1>you want to kind of hear more about that and

0:24:56.440 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 1>how to increase your to level up your abilities there,

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.399
<v Speaker 1>that's episode four fifteen. Yeah, I believe those software skills

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:04.880
<v Speaker 1>are one of the things that suffered the most during

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic. Obviously, a lot of folks, well a lot

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of the laptop class was able to

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>work from home. That was necessary in order to continue

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 1>our economy and businesses to continue functioning back when we

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>especially back when we didn't know the severity of the

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 1>virus and what that meant for us, if whether or

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>not we should be disinfecting our mail, you know, like

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:24.360
<v Speaker 1>these are these are all things that freaked us out

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>early on. But what that meant was that we weren't

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>hanging out in person, in real life with our coworkers,

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 1>And I think there's a degree, there's an element of

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>like humanity that was lost, and now as more employers

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 1>are calling folks back into the office, I think a

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>bet a result of that is going. I think we're

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna see productivity skyrocket because I think folks are going

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 1>to realize, Oh, I like you, like you know what.

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 1>We've been working together for years now, but I forgot

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 1>how great it was to work together in person, to

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<v Speaker 1>collaborate in a way that not only makes the business

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 1>more profitable, but but that's also fun. And so I

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>think there's sort of like a self gratifying, like a

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>self off aspect of honing those softer skills as well aside,

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<v Speaker 1>like completely aside from just like the business and the

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>profitability side of things. But let's let's talk about networking

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of like uh like real estate, right location, location, location, Um,

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 1>so you've you've heard the saying is it's not what

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, but it's who you know. And of course

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>this you know it's not gonna be accurate, but we

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:24.440
<v Speaker 1>do think this is as close to the truth is

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.400
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get in a pithy little phrase like this.

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<v Speaker 1>And the great thing about growing your network, about meeting

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 1>other folks in the industry. Is that anybody can do

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>this right, Like, it is not off limits to to anyone.

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 1>It just takes a bit of intentionality, It takes some

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>focused effort, and by doing those things, it's gonna put

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>you on the path to growing your network. Um and

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.400
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not just building up and growing your network too,

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>but also maintaining that network and then committing to you know,

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 1>something like regular checkens with folks in your space within

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>your industry. That is going to be crucial as well.

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Look up some different conferences, uh, like where you can

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>get to know folks in your space, like send them

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 1>an email, see how some when you hit it off

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:05.920
<v Speaker 1>with at the conference, see how they're doing. Maybe you

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>knew about a project that they're going to be on

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 1>or a new position that they're taking on. And as

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you do that, make sure to seek to provide value

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>however it is that you can. Because I think that

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>the more that the folks within your network feel that

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>you're seeking to be helpful, that you're trying to find

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>different ways to put them in better positions, the more

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:25.959
<v Speaker 1>keen that they're actually gonna be to help you out

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>in a pinch, The more likely they're gonna be to

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 1>keep you in mind when that new six figure position

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>is coming on, is about to be available, and they're

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 1>not going to post it officially, but they're just you know,

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 1>they start putting the tentacles, they start putting the feelers

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>out for folks like you, who is a nice guy

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>or a nice lady and you're caring and you're empathetic,

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and you you check in on folks. Yea, yeah, No,

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's huge, and I think we underestimate

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the importance and the value of building a good network.

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I just had a friend text me the other day, Matt,

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, he sent me a position that

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know was available. And he was like, I

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, I know you hate Matt now,

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>so you might be interested in this. I was like, no,

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 1>no, no no, I still love man. We love what we do,

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>so I'm not. But it was kind of where you

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:07.880
<v Speaker 1>get your info. But it was just it was kind

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>of a goofy thing because it was like the Braves

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>p a announcer and I've always liked baseball, and he

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, you're you were in radio, this would be perfect.

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, wait, Like at the during the games. Yeah,

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>during the games. The cool job. But you said that

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:22.239
<v Speaker 1>was like your dream job. I mean, well, it used

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>to be the actual announcer for like the radio broadcast,

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a announcer like in the stadium. Not as much and

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>still got it. Not gonna happen. Not not interested anymore.

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 1>That was a dream from long ago. That's kind of

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that was single, Jol before I had kids, Jole exactly, Yeah, exactly.

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>But it's funny how people just think of you for

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>certain things. I had a former boss reach out again

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>recently and he's like, hey, we've got I've got there's

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe some work I'd like you to do if you're interested. Again,

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not terribly interested right now, but the fact that

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>people think of you because you have, like you've maintained

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>those relationships matters. And so here's what we would say

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to growing your network is also important, not just maintaining

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>the one that You've got a couple of tips for that.

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>You can literally proactively introduce yourself to others in your

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 1>field who are doing work that interests you. There's no

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>harm and there's no harm in that sending a brief

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>linked in message or an email to offer a kind

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>word or introduce yourself to even say hey, do you

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>have time for a quick coffee if you guys live

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>in the same town. But we would also say don't

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>exclusively network with peers in your field, because a bunch

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of folks could stand to benefit from actually responding to

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe the kind of annoying messages they get from recruiters

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 1>or headhunters in their field. You might say, listen, I'm

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 1>not interested. To leave me alone, but you know, the

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the current job even that they're reaching out to you

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>about to tell you about or to see if you're

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>interested in it might not be right for you. But

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>having a brief cordial combo with that person, letting them

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>know what you're looking for job wise, will make you

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>top of mind for them in the future. So they

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>might already know about another position that you're perfect for

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>even at that moment. But a robust network is really

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>what's likely to get you unlisted opportunities that we were

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>talking about before. It's likely to get you thought of

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>for other things, other positions you might not have noticed

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>or you might not even have known existed. But that network,

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>like you said, Matt, it's just like real estate, location, location, location, network, network, network.

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>If that's if you boil it down to one thing

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>that's most likely to move the needle over a number

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>of years to help repel your career, I think it's

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>that that's right, man. Yeah, And as your network grows,

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have more opportunities to to take your talents elsewhere, uh,

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>changing jobs that gives you the highest probability for making

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>more money. I will say, the increased leverage that workers

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>have right now, it's kind of shown up in the

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>form of some like more goofy stunding movements over the

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>past twelve months. Uh. For like, there was quiet quitting

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.719
<v Speaker 1>right which was like workers refusing to go above and

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 1>beyond whatever their job title or description asked of them.

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>But then there's something called rage applying, uh. And that's

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>where you get so fed up with your boss. You

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>get so fed up with your job that you start

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>applying like crazy, two dozens, multiple dozens of positions, which

0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I will say the last have to do it with

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>a scale in your face. I believe otherwise you're not

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>actually you're just applying, applying um. And I do think

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>that's a better option, uh in my opinion. But if

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't like what you're doing. Don't just check out,

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>don't just quiet quit, look for something better, like be

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>more proactive about it, take your your future into your

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>own hands, and let's make sure that you know this

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>something better like that additional position that it pays more

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>to that it's going to be something that is going

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to financially reward you as well. Yeah, it's it's kind

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 1>of a goofy name to something people are doing. Of course,

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>this started as a TikTok trend, like everything does now.

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Does any any trend not start on TikTok these days?

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Not that I know of, But yeah, this rage applying

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>is we kind of kind of become the hit thing.

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>But the truth is, even though you're doing it maybe

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>out of kind of the wrong emotional space, you're doing

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the right thing by applying, by seeing what options are open.

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Your motives are wrong, you're doing it with the wrong heart. Yeah,

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>but the end result might actually be good exactly. Well. Yeah,

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and I think too, it's important to mention that don't

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>just look for jobs in the current industry you work

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>in because as yet, like, there were some actual news

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>stats recently to Matt that said that pay rates for

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>people who stay put at, their current jobs have gone

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>up more than at any other time in the past

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty five years since we've started keeping records on this data.

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>But even still, moving jobs is almost always gonna let

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>you more on the income front. But uh, it's it's

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>worth mentioning that looking into a different industry completely could

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>produce even higher results on the income front for you

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>as well. There's just nothing forcing you to stay in

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>the current industry that you're in. If your skills translate well,

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>not just the different employers, but the different lines of work,

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>starts scouring those opportunities as well. I mean, there were

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>headlines in newspapers across the country about how in demand

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>teachers are, about how they can quit their job and

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>go get paid more because of the innate talents that

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>they have that translate well to other industries. So it's

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>not just that that teacher has other potential jobs lined

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>up in the education sector. There are a bunch of

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>other sectors that would welcome teachers with open arms because

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>of the various talents they possess. So just to plug

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to widen your search parameters a little more than they

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>currently are. Yeah, and plus it's just fun to consider

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>doing something completely different than maybe what you've done for

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>the past ten years. Like it makes me think, like

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I came to podcasting from being a photographer. That is

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>not something that I thought in a thousand years that

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I would ever do, but dang it, it' sure is

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>fun to have like gone from something that was. I

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I I feel like I'm at two opposite ends

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of the spectrum. We're still creative, but they're very different. Yes,

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I love the creativity that was that I've been able

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 1>to find and uh, you know, and what we do

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 1>obviously was able to find that in photography as well.

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>But I think folks should be more open minded too,

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and like it almost sounds counterintuitive, but to almost hit

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>resets a little bit on their career and kind of

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>start over from scratch if you're looking for a way

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>to kind of shake things up, maybe if you feel

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>like you've either hit the ceiling or if you see

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>better potential elsewhere. Um, but as you're weighing those different options,

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>as you're thinking about about moving, obviously folks are gonna

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>look at what it is that they might be able

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>to get paid. But something to keep in mind, Uh,

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>don't just look at the salary alone, how your job

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>impacts your life, the hours that you're supposed to work,

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>and the job flexibility uh that you're going to be

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>able to realize. These are all important to think through

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>as well as you're considering a new position. Um Basically,

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>we want you to think through like the total package

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>of what a job entails, right, including the total compensation package,

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.919
<v Speaker 1>but also the lifestyle aspects of a job as well.

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>But the Beer of Labor Statistics found that of the

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>average employees, compensation comes via the form of benefits. It

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>comes via things that aren't listed out on those job listings,

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 1>you know with the job title, twoline description, and a salary.

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Reminds me of how like when we drive cars and

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>we think about how expensive they are. Oftentimes one of

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the first things people think about our gas prices, but

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 1>those are actually such a small percentage of where you're

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 1>But like these these benefits that you can all these

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 1>other things that you need to take a depreciation maintenance

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to the headline salary number. But some of those other

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>things buried a little bit deeper down about when it

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>comes to the four one K match or when it

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 1>comes to healthcare benefits, those things can be massive. It

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>could be it could make a big difference, right like

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>like a new job it might pay more, right, which

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>sounds pretty awesome. But if they don't offer a four

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Speaker 1>one K match, right like, if you have to work

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>longer days, so your lifestyle now sucks. The flexibility is

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>now gone. If the healthcare premiums, if they're gonna cost you,

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, substantially more, well, it might be more of

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 1>a wash, right from from an overall compensation perspective, and

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 1>it might not be worth the salary increase in may

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>not be worth a squeeze um. And so a bigger

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>headline salary number is of course massively helpful, kind of

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:44.760
<v Speaker 1>helps you get pointed in the right direction. But before

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you switch jobs based on that alone, make sure that

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you you do your dilaons, make sure that you've done

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 1>some research, that you figured out how this shift, how

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>this change is going to impact you on all those

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>different fronts in life, not just the amount that's going

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to be in your paycheck every two weeks. Yeah, for sure.

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Well let's let's keep talking about this man, like we

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about negotiation. I think negotiation is a

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 1>really really important part of how you get paid more

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>especially if you want to stay put where you are.

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>You're not looking necessarily to pull Lebron James and take

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 1>your talents to South Beach or something like that. You

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you just want to get paid what you're worth where

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you are. We'll talk about that, but we'll also talk

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.320
<v Speaker 1>about striking it on your own. Or if you're a freelancer,

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>how do you get paid more for doing the work

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you're already doing. Well, we'll get to that right after this.

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, we are still talking about different ways that

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 1>you can make sure that you're gonna earn more money

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.720
<v Speaker 1>this year, And regardless if you are going to stay

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>with your current employer or if you're looking to take

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>your talents elsewhere. Regardless, a tactic that you're gonna want

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to employ is negotiating. So having a you know, like

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>a competing offer, that's one of the best negotiating tactics

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:56.919
<v Speaker 1>that you have at your disposal if you're looking to move,

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 1>and honestly, even if you're wanting to stay put, if

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you have some interest from another employer where you're gonna

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>be far more likely to coax a raise out of

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>your current employer. It makes you kind of the hot

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 1>commodity right where they're like, wait, huh, other people you

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>get an offers from down the street. No, no, no no, no,

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:14.479
<v Speaker 1>we definitely want to keep you. We're going to figure

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 1>out away. Yeah, kind of instill some like some of

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>that sense of scarcity. Yeah, you may no longer be there.

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 1>But I think some listeners might hear the word negotiate

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and they might shudder. They may have heard my story

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 1>earlier and they're like, I would never knock on the

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 1>window of a car that almost just hit me, But

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.879
<v Speaker 1>I that that doesn't make me shudder. I'm definitely less

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>fearful of doing that. But they see confrontation on the horizon.

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>But negotiation, it doesn't have to be that way. I

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>think it's important to keep in mind that this is

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>a normal feature for for many of the cultures out there,

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think we should all just maybe become a

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 1>little bit more comfortable on this frontum negotiating more. In general,

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a good habit to get into, and

0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:59.959
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to getting paid more, I think it'll

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>often make the biggest difference on the salary front. The

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>ability to push back a little bit, to ask questions.

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Those are some of the characteristics that we want you

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to embody as you're looking to either stay put or

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.359
<v Speaker 1>with a new potential employer if you're looking to move. Yeah,

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>there's always I feel like every time I talked to

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>somebody about this and I can see look in their

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 1>eyes like, yeah, that's one step too far. I'm not

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>going to do that, and there's like they start sweating

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. There's like an emotional hesitancy right to

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>even think about the concept of negotiation. And and I

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>mean I remember I've had multiple people that I worked

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>with kind of trying to talk them through the ropes

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>of how to do this, and there's just a lot

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of fear, a lot of pushback. Well I can't ask

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 1>that question. Well I can't go in there and and

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and approach this conversation with my boss like that's that's

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna like put me, made me look bad, or they're

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:50.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna want to get rid of me after that, right

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 1>after asking for more money. But no, no, no, no.

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 1>I think we often overstate the negative effects that having

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 1>this kind of conversation opening up the negotiation process with

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 1>our boss can have, And we also underestimate our ability

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>to get what we want or deserve. And of course

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna want to detail some of your accomplishments that

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 1>are particularly flattering alongside some of the awesome stuff you

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>plan to achieve in the coming year. I think that's

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.320
<v Speaker 1>really important, not just saying here's what I've done in

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>the past, but saying here's what I'm gonna bring to

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:17.439
<v Speaker 1>the table moving forward. I'm gonna keep being awesome for you.

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 1>And it's easier to ask for and then get a

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>significant pay bump if you have some of those killer

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>contributions to highlight, right, And and like we talked about earlier,

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 1>knowing what you're worth by shopping those similar positions in

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the market is going to give you the data to

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>ask for a raise as well. So you want to

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of combine all those things into a pot along

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 1>with a really kind presentation, essentially asking your boss to

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>pay what pay you what's fair given your contributions and

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>what you can command elsewhere. And I think that term

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>fair is really important because your boss likely wants to

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 1>be seen as a fair person. And if you, based

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 1>on your accomplishments and based on what you could earn

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>somewhere else, are saying, hey, my what I'm getting paid

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 1>isn't quite fair. Right now, you're not accusing them, but

0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, hey, i'd like to get paid with fair.

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that actually is one of the best ways

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>to present your argument. And I think there's an assumption

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>that if you don't see anything, then the your boss

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 1>is going to assume that what they are paying you

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>is fair sure because they haven't heard from you. Another step,

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 1>or another route you could take too is just skip

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the boss altogether. Go work for yourself. We're talking about

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurship here, and it's not often going to be you know,

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 1>done overnight, but building something on the side. If you're

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.919
<v Speaker 1>so inclined, I think that's the best way to get

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:29.320
<v Speaker 1>to the point where you can fully work for yourself. Unfortunately, freelancing,

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 1>it's becoming more normalized of American workers did at least

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>some freelance work last year back in and you know,

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 1>when we see freelance, we're not talking about gig work.

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 1>That's different. It's important to make this distinction because you know,

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you might make more money initially if you're looking to

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 1>take on some additional gigs via some different apps. But

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>this is a losing proposition because what you're doing here

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 1>is your only trading time for money on an ongoing basis. Uh,

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>it's okay to do that if you're in a pinch

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and if you need cash fast, but we don't want

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 1>this to be something that you pursue long term. Um.

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:07.400
<v Speaker 1>And also, we just don't want you to be dependent

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>on a platform or a specific marketplace. And so that's

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of how we view gigs as maybe more

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 1>of a negative, it's more of a choice of words,

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>but we feel that a side hustle is something that

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 1>is scalable. It has the ability to turn into a

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:24.720
<v Speaker 1>legit business over time. It might not make you money

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>in the here and now, like maybe media as much money,

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's got more that long term potential for sure. Yeah, exactly.

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 1>And and so one of the things Matt too, if

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>somebody if out there listing says, yeah, I want to

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>get to that point, but boy, I'm scared to do

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 1>that too. I'm scared to negotiate with my boss. We're

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 1>HOPEFU hopefully we give you some some helpful tips on

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 1>how to do that and how important it is. But

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 1>let's say you do want to strike it out on

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>your own, but you're like, I don't know that I

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:51.839
<v Speaker 1>can do that. I don't hope that I'm ready for that. Well,

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>first you might not be yet. You might need to

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>get that side hustle up and running a little bit further.

0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 1>You might need to have proof of concept right that

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:00.919
<v Speaker 1>you can make the income that you need but going

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 1>it alone. But the other thing that you need to

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>have is I think the more money you have saved up,

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the easier it becomes to take more risk. And so

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 1>if you have some financial margin here exactly, if you

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.760
<v Speaker 1>have three weeks worth the savings on hand versus six

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 1>months worth of savings on hand, yeah, no, wonder you're

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>scared if you've only got three weeks to cash it

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>in the bank, to quit your job, to h and

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to move on and go do your own thing. But

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>if you have six months, you're like, man, I I

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of wiggle room here. I have a

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of runway to kind of get this business rolling.

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily need it to be spitting out as

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 1>much as I was making before. At least right now,

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I've got the financial margin, the financial backstop in case

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not making as much money as I've projected

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:48.439
<v Speaker 1>to make or as I think I'm going to make

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think that that matters a lot. That gives

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.879
<v Speaker 1>you the ability that money in the bank, it's we've

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>called a piece out money before, Matt. If you have

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that amount of money, enough of a stash sitting there,

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna help vide the comfort level for you to

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:03.720
<v Speaker 1>be able to go strike it on your own, which

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're not guaranteed to make more money, but

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of entrepreneurs find that they are able to

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>because in the in the course of running their own business,

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>they're able to make more than they ever were under

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the roof of someone else. Totally. Yeah, I mean, and

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:18.919
<v Speaker 1>this is why we have the show, right Not only

0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:20.719
<v Speaker 1>is it important to and why we talk about having

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>financial margin and an emergency fund. Not only do we

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 1>want you to avoid the stress of living paycheck to paycheck.

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>That's like escaping the negative aspects of uh handling your

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>finances poorly, um, but we also want you to experience

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the positive things, right like, not only we want to

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:39.720
<v Speaker 1>remove the negative and and we want you to inherit

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the positive outcomes. And often times that's having more options,

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>especially when it comes to the type of work you're doing.

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to say yes to everything that gets

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 1>thrust in front of you. You can say maybe I

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>want to do that, or actually I don't want to

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>do that. I'm gonna start my own thing when I'm

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:55.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna do this instead. You have more choice, the more

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 1>financial backs, the more choice you have over what you

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:01.399
<v Speaker 1>do or choice when your options. Yeah, and the more

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you can hold out for more money too. You can

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>be like, actually, no, this job sounds great, but you

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>know I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep looking because the

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 1>salary is not quite a standards And you can say

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:13.879
<v Speaker 1>that with confidence when you have more more cash than

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 1>exactly yeah. And it's it's not about making all these

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>smart financial moves in order to get filthy rich, right,

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Like we don't want all the how the money listeners

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:22.840
<v Speaker 1>out there to be millionaires and to retire and for

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>your your life to look a certain way now like

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 1>we want you. It's what those funds, what that retirement,

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>what that nesting can allow you to then do all

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the cool things that it's gonna afford you, right, like

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the ability to give tons of money away, or the

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>ability to say yes to a different job that you

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 1>never thought that you would consider doing. But also like

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>if you have money on hand and you want to

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.399
<v Speaker 1>buy something cool that costs that costs a little bit extra,

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:48.919
<v Speaker 1>or go on a vacation or something like that. It's

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 1>it comes it comes down to you and what it

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 1>is that you want to spend your money on business.

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:55.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not again, it's not the accumulation of just massive

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:57.879
<v Speaker 1>amounts of money and seeing your net worth grow. It's

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 1>all of the different options that that is then going

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>to afford you. That's that's the goal. That's why we

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 1>have how the money and that's what that's Those are

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the big lessons that we want to make sure that

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you're able to live with. And I think fear is

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>what holds people back, one from negotiating like you talked about,

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>but also from pursuing entrepreneurship, from pursuing a career in freelancing,

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe in something like that. And that money. It's not

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 1>that the money makes you not fearful, but it can

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 1>help you overcome some of those fears. I think it

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 1>can allow you to push past them because at least

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that's one less thing holding you back, right, and then

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.839
<v Speaker 1>it's just you holding yourself better. But I think that's

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:32.839
<v Speaker 1>one excuse we make sometimes and so if you do

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 1>have more money saved up, it can allow you to

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like you can take the risk to go out

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 1>there and pursue something that's your own, to build your

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 1>own thing. Well, what if you are already a freelance

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 1>freelancer though, Matt, We've got a lot of people on

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>the how the Money community who who do have their

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 1>own business already, who work for themselves. Can you just

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 1>raise your rates on a dot like? Just is it

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 1>that simple? You could like kind of, but not necessarily right,

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>That's not the best way to go about it. So

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 1>we would say this, if you're if you're trying to

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 1>increase your rates this year, would you should probably be

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to do especially right now given inflation and stuff

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 1>like that. I think it's understandable people almost expect price

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:09.240
<v Speaker 1>increases right now, but make sure you give your clients

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>time to adjust. Don't just send them an invoice for

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 1>more money one day and be like, surprise, I'm charging.

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:17.239
<v Speaker 1>That's not the way to do it. It makes me

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>think of kind of how Sam's Club just recently did

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.359
<v Speaker 1>their rate increase at at the Warehouse club there, Matt.

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:25.359
<v Speaker 1>They basically said, hey, it's going up this next year,

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna give you a gift card. Right, the

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 1>covers the price difference of the membership from last year

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 1>to this year. It kind of ease the pain, right

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 1>as am used to paying the new dollar amount. But

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 1>in reality, look at the math. See we got you covered,

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>making that transition just a little little slight of hand,

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>a little less painful for people. And so I would say, like,

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>if you're a freelancer out there, your rate increases, is

0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna go over better if you send a note

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>telling your clients why that rating is going up, you know,

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 1>and even as you raise your rates, be cognizant of

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:57.799
<v Speaker 1>how you go about it in order to make more

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 1>from current clients and to lose future none in the process.

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:04.799
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, make sure you're being you're communicating about why,

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about economic conditions and maybe even highlighting improvements in

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 1>service and what you offer. That's kind of a good

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>way to raise rates. But just saying hey, sorry, buck

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>stops here more, that's not a good way to do it.

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna lose people in the process. How you talk

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 1>about it matters honestly for me, and maybe I'm different

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 1>than other people, but like to me, like In my mind,

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 1>it matters less about why it is that prices are changing,

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and it has more to do with the fact that

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.800
<v Speaker 1>it's just even being talked about altogether, because that tells

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 1>me that they're being upfront about it. There's some there's

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:39.320
<v Speaker 1>like a level of transparency there, and to that extent,

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like it would even engender like more

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:43.440
<v Speaker 1>loyalty on my part because it's just like, okay, cool,

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 1>it's something that they're being straightforward and honest with as

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 1>almost like the product or the service or whatever. I

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:51.400
<v Speaker 1>don't even care why I'm down with that, Like I'm

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.359
<v Speaker 1>happy to support that individual in particular as we're talking

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:56.680
<v Speaker 1>about freelancers, but some people and depending on how long

0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:58.839
<v Speaker 1>you've had that relationship with your client or whatever, like

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 1>it could demand a different kind of fitness. Are they

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 1>your main client who who takes up half, you know,

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 1>half your time and three quarters of you know your

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:08.839
<v Speaker 1>revenue comes from them. You're gonna want to make sure

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 1>you handle that in a specific way. You're right, Like

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:13.359
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna vary across the board exactly. Yeah, It's it's

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:15.279
<v Speaker 1>worth bringing up non competes as well. We talked about

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 1>this a few weeks ago. Uh. But noncompetes might currently

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 1>be preventing you from going down the street to make

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:23.360
<v Speaker 1>more money, but those might not be around much longer.

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Things to the FTC, the Federal Trade Commission, there's actually

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:30.800
<v Speaker 1>a massive number of Americans, especially ones who make less

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 1>than twenty dollars an hour, who are just limited, you know,

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 1>by their ability to seek employment elsewhere. Uh, and therefore

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>more money within the same industry because of these threatening

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:43.440
<v Speaker 1>legal documents. Uh. And so if the FTC moves forward

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 1>with its proposal, I think it's still in like the

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:48.840
<v Speaker 1>comment period until March or something like that, but that

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>could be a massive policy step that would allow millions

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 1>to earn more money without the fear of retribution from

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:58.439
<v Speaker 1>their employers, without there being some sort of lawsuit against you. Yeah. Yeah,

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:00.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that's important to note, And that's a in

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:03.919
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about maximizing your income in three If this

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:08.359
<v Speaker 1>does come into effect, it's going to impact something close

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to thirty million people and their ability to make more

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 1>in the industry they currently work in by going down

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the street and seeking to get paid more elsewhere. So,

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 1>but that's one of those things that we'll continue to

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 1>talk about on Friday flights. As we get more updates,

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:23.239
<v Speaker 1>and I think, Matt, when it when we boil it down,

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 1>like our our listeners, most people out there, they've seen

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>some of the stories or a TikTok video of someone

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 1>saying I doubled my pay overnight by switching jobs. I

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 1>think you're going to be hard pressed to double your

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:36.760
<v Speaker 1>pay like that in one fell swoop. But it's also

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 1>to say that's not impossible, right, some people have done it.

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 1>It's you can do it. But growing your income in

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 1>a meaningful way by the end of this year, I

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 1>think it's a good goal and it's possible for a

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of us. And money isn't everything, of course, Matt,

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you alluded to that just a second ago. If you

0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 1>love your job and it doesn't pay a ton, but

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 1>it lights you up inside, more power to you. But

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're working for a nonprofit getting paid thirty five

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars a year, but you're like the mission you love,

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.600
<v Speaker 1>cause that's awesome, there's a lot to be said for that.

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:04.400
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot to be said for that. And we're

0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:07.279
<v Speaker 1>not cold hearted capitalists who would throw away purpose and

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:09.319
<v Speaker 1>mission just for more dollars. In our bank accounts, Like,

0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that's not our style and that's not what we want

0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:12.799
<v Speaker 1>you to do. And I think if you can live

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:15.319
<v Speaker 1>a frugal life and and do the job that you

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 1>love makes me think of the listener question we had

0:50:18.640 --> 0:50:20.799
<v Speaker 1>from a librarian recently. She loved her job. She's not

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 1>looking to necessarily like double her income and quit a

0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 1>profession that she held, dear, And I think that a

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:29.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of people feel that way, and rightly so. But

0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I think still like most of us can make three

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the year of making more money. That's what we wanted

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>to be for you. Uh, it's but it's not just

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 1>going to happen to us right as we sit here

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 1>doing our normal thing. We've got to go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and make it a reality. So hopefully you've learned enough

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<v Speaker 1>from this episode to do that very thing, and can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to hear the stories of your success this year

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<v Speaker 1>in making more based on Yeah, the moves that you make,

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<v Speaker 1>the questions you ask, the negotiating tactics that you implement.

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<v Speaker 1>So right, man, you can't be passive about earning more money.

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<v Speaker 1>That is something you have to go out there and get.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta like hunt it down like a lion on

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<v Speaker 1>the savannah, stalking its prey, stalking the gazelle. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the beer you and I enjoyed a painting dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a single hop West Coast style I p

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<v Speaker 1>a by Finden's Brewing. What what would you say at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning? I don't know what. Did I call it

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<v Speaker 1>findings or fittings? I can't remember. No, you called it finns.

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I called it findings? Were you saying finings? I was

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<v Speaker 1>just one too shirt. I said, if it was two

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<v Speaker 1>d's it might be it would make sense. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fighting's for sure. We looked it up while you're talking.

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<v Speaker 1>I got distracted to the phone real quick, as you

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<v Speaker 1>are prone to do, which I'm not gonna say it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little offensive. It's a little offensive. But this was

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<v Speaker 1>a fantastic beer. Man Um. The last year we had

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<v Speaker 1>by them, they had like a new fantacy hot that

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<v Speaker 1>we've never had before, and so pizzerin, pizzerin Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, there's a maybe there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>slight chance that this beer is so good because there's

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<v Speaker 1>a hot here that we've never had. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>a single hot beer which means it's only got one type, Mosaic, which,

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<v Speaker 1>other than like Citra, is probably one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>base widely used hop in my opinion, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've had many a beer, probably mosaic and Centennial

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<v Speaker 1>or Centennial that's another one as well. Yeah, but what

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<v Speaker 1>that tells me is that it's not the ingredients, it's

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<v Speaker 1>how it is that they're making this beer. It's the technique.

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<v Speaker 1>Those guys up there in the up in the northeast, man,

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<v Speaker 1>they I like how they do it up there, the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they are brewing their I p a S

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, it's just so stinking good. This is just, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>like we were talking about how this is like the

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<v Speaker 1>best West Coast ipa we've ever had, and it's partly

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<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't really taste like a normal West Coast

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<v Speaker 1>ip a. It tastes like like a New England style

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<v Speaker 1>I p A masked disguised as a West Coast Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it definitely was more bitter than the one that we

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<v Speaker 1>had on Monday, but it still wasn't nearly as bitter

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<v Speaker 1>as a lot of the West Coast styles were used

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<v Speaker 1>to drinking. Didn't have like that great fruit pith or

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<v Speaker 1>pine resin action going on. So to me, this was

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<v Speaker 1>like the West Coast sister of the Monday beer and

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<v Speaker 1>not quite as delicious because I was obsessed with the

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<v Speaker 1>one on Monday, but still really really good, super good.

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<v Speaker 1>It honestly reminds me of um. I think I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember those Bisis Brothers or Trillium, but I remember having

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<v Speaker 1>a session I p a by them, and this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of reminded me of that. It's still it was like

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<v Speaker 1>chock full of flavor, had that hop sharpness, but just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot lighter, didn't have nearly as much of that

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<v Speaker 1>complex mouth feel that the one on Monday had. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that's high praise too. To compare this beer to Bissells

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers or two Trillium, which are two of the best

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<v Speaker 1>breweries in the country. Yeah, oh, absolutely well. The first

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<v Speaker 1>result that when I was doing my phone searching while

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking earlier, the first result that came up was

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<v Speaker 1>that this is and this is some like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>uber beer nerd website, but they were saying that this

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<v Speaker 1>is the best craft brewery that you haven't heard of

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<v Speaker 1>under the radar. It's completely under the radar. I love

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<v Speaker 1>it now. I'm gonna start looking for excuses to take

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<v Speaker 1>a trip to New England, kind of check some of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys out. Big thanks to listener Michael and Emily

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<v Speaker 1>for sending this beer away. I really appreciate it. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. Awesome. All right, that's gonna do it

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode. Matt for want the show notes and

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<v Speaker 1>links to stuff that we mentioned, you can find those

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<v Speaker 1>up on our website at how to money dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Joel. So, until next time, best friends Out,

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<v Speaker 1>Best Friends Out.