1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:22,915 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio two years, 2 00:00:23,035 --> 00:00:26,315 Speaker 1: eight months and two days after the fact, and more 3 00:00:26,355 --> 00:00:31,675 Speaker 1: circumstantial evidence now that Chuck Grassley really was being positioned 4 00:00:31,675 --> 00:00:35,595 Speaker 1: to preside over the electoral College count on January sixth, 5 00:00:36,115 --> 00:00:38,355 Speaker 1: and presumably he would have helped to steal the election 6 00:00:38,475 --> 00:00:41,275 Speaker 1: from Biden for Trump, and we would have been looking 7 00:00:41,275 --> 00:00:45,075 Speaker 1: for Pence next to Jimmy Hoffa bear with me on 8 00:00:45,115 --> 00:00:51,795 Speaker 1: the voice Yay steroids. Every single time, every single time, 9 00:00:52,275 --> 00:00:55,195 Speaker 1: this idea is thoroughly dismissed that there was some kind 10 00:00:55,195 --> 00:00:58,155 Speaker 1: of scheme afoot to make sure Mike Pence did not 11 00:00:58,275 --> 00:01:00,195 Speaker 1: make it to the joint session of the House and 12 00:01:00,235 --> 00:01:03,435 Speaker 1: the Senate for the electoral College certification on Jay six 13 00:01:03,795 --> 00:01:08,395 Speaker 1: Every single time it is dismissed, and god knows, I've 14 00:01:08,435 --> 00:01:11,275 Speaker 1: been one of the ones who dismissed it. Something new 15 00:01:11,395 --> 00:01:16,275 Speaker 1: pops up and it's weird and it's conspiratorial, and it 16 00:01:16,355 --> 00:01:19,595 Speaker 1: doesn't add up. And now it comes out of the 17 00:01:19,635 --> 00:01:23,955 Speaker 1: mouth of the weirdest, most conspiratorial figure who doesn't add 18 00:01:24,035 --> 00:01:30,155 Speaker 1: up in the entire Trump coup plot, John Efing Eastman. 19 00:01:32,635 --> 00:01:37,275 Speaker 1: This fake elector's mastermind is being disbarred in California. Hasn't 20 00:01:37,315 --> 00:01:40,315 Speaker 1: happened yet, but it will. And in cross examination by 21 00:01:40,315 --> 00:01:43,115 Speaker 1: the lawyer for the state board, Eastman was asked about 22 00:01:43,115 --> 00:01:47,475 Speaker 1: his December twenty three, twenty twenty, email to Boris Epstein, 23 00:01:47,875 --> 00:01:50,515 Speaker 1: in which he hoped nobody in Congress would do anything 24 00:01:50,555 --> 00:01:55,675 Speaker 1: to quote constrain Pence or Grassly from asserting the power 25 00:01:55,715 --> 00:02:00,155 Speaker 1: to block Biden's election. And Eastman replied to the question 26 00:02:00,635 --> 00:02:04,395 Speaker 1: on the stand attorney client privilege, and he said he 27 00:02:04,395 --> 00:02:07,475 Speaker 1: couldn't talk about it. And when the lawyer asked which client, 28 00:02:07,795 --> 00:02:14,115 Speaker 1: Eastman answered, quote President Trump. Oh, so here we go again. 29 00:02:15,395 --> 00:02:20,435 Speaker 1: The vampire of coup elements simply will not stay dead. 30 00:02:22,115 --> 00:02:24,995 Speaker 1: The Huffington Post caught up with Grassley yesterday. It's not 31 00:02:25,115 --> 00:02:27,875 Speaker 1: exactly a challenge. He'll be ninety in nine days and 32 00:02:28,035 --> 00:02:33,075 Speaker 1: asked Grassley again, what the f we were talking about 33 00:02:33,155 --> 00:02:36,995 Speaker 1: presiding over the Senate. He responded, well, I had the 34 00:02:36,995 --> 00:02:39,075 Speaker 1: look of a man who was thinking about hitting deer 35 00:02:39,195 --> 00:02:41,875 Speaker 1: with his car. But a lot of people get that 36 00:02:42,075 --> 00:02:44,755 Speaker 1: mixed up with some idea that I was going to 37 00:02:44,795 --> 00:02:47,835 Speaker 1: preside over the joint session, And you know that's not 38 00:02:47,995 --> 00:02:54,355 Speaker 1: what I ever intended to do. Unquote cool. This is 39 00:02:54,435 --> 00:02:58,035 Speaker 1: completely different than what Chuck Grassley and then his staff 40 00:02:58,435 --> 00:03:02,115 Speaker 1: said in real time. On January fifth, twenty twenty one. 41 00:03:02,195 --> 00:03:04,955 Speaker 1: Grassley said, quote, well, first of all, I will be 42 00:03:05,355 --> 00:03:08,515 Speaker 1: if the Vice President isn't there and we don't expect 43 00:03:08,595 --> 00:03:11,675 Speaker 1: him to be there, I will be presiding over. The 44 00:03:11,715 --> 00:03:17,155 Speaker 1: Senate staff rushed to correct him, saying that was a misinterpretation. 45 00:03:17,515 --> 00:03:21,595 Speaker 1: He was only talking about filling in for Pence when 46 00:03:21,675 --> 00:03:25,875 Speaker 1: Pence took a bathroom break. Of course the bathroom would 47 00:03:25,915 --> 00:03:30,395 Speaker 1: have been over the Mexican border somewhere. Anyway. This is 48 00:03:30,475 --> 00:03:34,555 Speaker 1: also not what Grassley said to the investigative reporter Lauren 49 00:03:34,595 --> 00:03:36,515 Speaker 1: Windsor a year ago this month. 50 00:03:36,675 --> 00:03:39,755 Speaker 2: All I can point you to is the Constitution, and 51 00:03:39,835 --> 00:03:45,475 Speaker 2: the Constitution says that you open up the votes and count. 52 00:03:46,035 --> 00:03:49,635 Speaker 2: The only time that you that you would intervene in 53 00:03:49,835 --> 00:03:54,195 Speaker 2: that is if there's two slates coming from the same state. 54 00:03:55,195 --> 00:03:58,075 Speaker 2: So there was none of the fifty states not sent 55 00:03:58,155 --> 00:04:00,395 Speaker 2: in two slates. There was only one. 56 00:04:01,315 --> 00:04:03,115 Speaker 3: So if you had those two slates, you would have 57 00:04:03,155 --> 00:04:04,475 Speaker 3: been able to stop the election. 58 00:04:05,435 --> 00:04:08,715 Speaker 2: We wouldn't have been able to stop the election. We 59 00:04:08,715 --> 00:04:11,835 Speaker 2: would have been able to choose between this one or 60 00:04:11,915 --> 00:04:12,315 Speaker 2: that one. 61 00:04:13,395 --> 00:04:15,995 Speaker 3: So we just were one slate away from having President Trumps, 62 00:04:16,075 --> 00:04:22,075 Speaker 3: is what you're saying. One slate away, said we needed 63 00:04:22,075 --> 00:04:27,115 Speaker 3: to slates slates from two. 64 00:04:26,915 --> 00:04:31,715 Speaker 2: States, you would have to have two slates from one state. 65 00:04:33,355 --> 00:04:35,755 Speaker 2: You'd have to have a dispute in that state. 66 00:04:36,035 --> 00:04:40,115 Speaker 1: So no, Grassley wasn't going to preside over the Senate 67 00:04:40,435 --> 00:04:43,635 Speaker 1: and thus preside over the joint session of the Senate 68 00:04:43,675 --> 00:04:47,555 Speaker 1: in the House during the electoral vote count because Pence 69 00:04:47,755 --> 00:04:54,275 Speaker 1: was indisposed in a rocket ship to the sun or something, 70 00:04:55,195 --> 00:04:57,875 Speaker 1: and they couldn't have been able to make Trump president 71 00:04:57,995 --> 00:05:00,995 Speaker 1: instead of Biden on January six because there weren't two 72 00:05:00,995 --> 00:05:04,115 Speaker 1: slates of electors from each state on January sixth, even 73 00:05:04,155 --> 00:05:08,155 Speaker 1: though the entire point of the insurrection outside the Capitol 74 00:05:08,235 --> 00:05:11,115 Speaker 1: and inside the Capitol on the afternoon of January sixth, 75 00:05:11,155 --> 00:05:12,795 Speaker 1: and the whole point of the one hundred and forty 76 00:05:12,795 --> 00:05:16,155 Speaker 1: seven Republicans who voted to not certify the electoral College 77 00:05:16,195 --> 00:05:19,675 Speaker 1: vote for Biden that night was to delay the certification 78 00:05:20,075 --> 00:05:23,555 Speaker 1: so that alternate sites of electors could show up from 79 00:05:23,635 --> 00:05:29,115 Speaker 1: Georgia and Michigan and Arizona and Pennsylvania, where Jack Smith's 80 00:05:29,155 --> 00:05:35,475 Speaker 1: grand jury is investigating invoices invoices that have turned up 81 00:05:35,915 --> 00:05:40,875 Speaker 1: that showed that Sidney Powell hired forensic computer firms to 82 00:05:41,235 --> 00:05:47,555 Speaker 1: infiltrate voting machines in Georgia and Michigan and Arizona and Pennsylvania. 83 00:05:47,995 --> 00:05:50,475 Speaker 1: And now what Jack Smith's grand jury is looking at 84 00:05:50,635 --> 00:05:55,755 Speaker 1: is whether or not she used Trump political donations to 85 00:05:56,035 --> 00:06:03,635 Speaker 1: pay for those forensic computer firms. No big deal, go 86 00:06:03,755 --> 00:06:08,115 Speaker 1: back to sleep. Just a potential ground zero for the 87 00:06:08,155 --> 00:06:11,635 Speaker 1: coup involving the President pro temporary of the Senate and 88 00:06:11,675 --> 00:06:13,795 Speaker 1: the Vice President who wouldn't get in the car with 89 00:06:13,835 --> 00:06:16,995 Speaker 1: the Secret Service, and a Trump lawyer writing an email 90 00:06:17,035 --> 00:06:22,635 Speaker 1: two weeks earlier talking about Grassly maybe instead of Pence 91 00:06:22,715 --> 00:06:25,715 Speaker 1: presiding over the vote count. But no, no, Now the 92 00:06:25,795 --> 00:06:28,315 Speaker 1: lawyer can't talk about that email because it's protected by 93 00:06:28,355 --> 00:06:32,595 Speaker 1: attorney client, pretty much as the client is Trump. I 94 00:06:32,635 --> 00:06:35,195 Speaker 1: don't know what the truth is here. I only know 95 00:06:35,315 --> 00:06:38,515 Speaker 1: we don't know what it is, and I am only 96 00:06:38,555 --> 00:06:41,675 Speaker 1: guessing this part, but I think it's a damn good guess. 97 00:06:42,115 --> 00:06:45,675 Speaker 1: If we can break John Eastman, we will get the truth. 98 00:06:46,355 --> 00:06:50,755 Speaker 1: So mister Special Counsel, Madam District Attorney of Fulton County, 99 00:06:51,115 --> 00:07:02,155 Speaker 1: please go ahead, Please do break, John Eastman, and do 100 00:07:02,195 --> 00:07:05,155 Speaker 1: you get the feeling that Madame District Attorney Fundy Willis 101 00:07:05,235 --> 00:07:08,835 Speaker 1: is this close to indicting Jim Jordan for obstruction of justice, 102 00:07:09,155 --> 00:07:10,715 Speaker 1: or at least that she would like to be that 103 00:07:10,915 --> 00:07:15,875 Speaker 1: close your letter, she writes, in replying to his demand 104 00:07:15,915 --> 00:07:18,315 Speaker 1: last month that she turn over all the records of 105 00:07:18,315 --> 00:07:22,195 Speaker 1: her investigation and indictment of the Trump nineteen to Jordan 106 00:07:22,315 --> 00:07:25,955 Speaker 1: and his committee to what's it called, Oh yeah, the 107 00:07:25,995 --> 00:07:29,675 Speaker 1: Committee to Obstruct Justice. Your letter makes clear that you 108 00:07:29,795 --> 00:07:33,755 Speaker 1: lack a basic understanding of the law, its practice, and 109 00:07:33,835 --> 00:07:40,035 Speaker 1: the ethical obligations of attorneys generally and prosecutors specifically. Unquote, 110 00:07:40,235 --> 00:07:45,475 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I thought that was our starting point. Quote 111 00:07:45,475 --> 00:07:49,395 Speaker 1: face this reality, Chairman Jordan. The select group of defendants 112 00:07:49,435 --> 00:07:52,355 Speaker 1: who you fret over in my jurisdiction are like every 113 00:07:52,395 --> 00:07:55,875 Speaker 1: other defendant, entitled to no worse or better treatment than 114 00:07:55,915 --> 00:08:00,875 Speaker 1: any other American citizen unquote. Fonnie Willis also writes that 115 00:08:00,955 --> 00:08:05,595 Speaker 1: Jordan's letter included quote, inaccurate information and misleading statements. Its 116 00:08:05,635 --> 00:08:08,835 Speaker 1: obvious purpose is to obstruct a Georgia criminal proceeding and 117 00:08:08,915 --> 00:08:13,595 Speaker 1: to advance outrageous misrepresentations. There is no justification in the 118 00:08:13,675 --> 00:08:17,435 Speaker 1: Constitution for Congress to interfere with a state criminal matter, 119 00:08:17,515 --> 00:08:24,435 Speaker 1: as you attempt to do unquote. Oh, and then as 120 00:08:24,515 --> 00:08:28,115 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan was staggering out of the metaphorical room, willis 121 00:08:28,355 --> 00:08:31,835 Speaker 1: need him in the groin quote. If you and your 122 00:08:31,875 --> 00:08:34,995 Speaker 1: colleagues follow through on your threats to deny this office 123 00:08:35,035 --> 00:08:37,995 Speaker 1: federal funds, please be aware that you will be deciding 124 00:08:37,995 --> 00:08:44,355 Speaker 1: to allow serial rapists to go unprosecuted. Well, that's old 125 00:08:44,355 --> 00:08:49,595 Speaker 1: hat for Jim Jordan, serial rapists to go unprosecuted, hate 126 00:08:49,635 --> 00:08:52,875 Speaker 1: crimes to be unaddressed, and to cancel programs for at 127 00:08:52,955 --> 00:08:58,475 Speaker 1: risk children. Such vengeful uncalled for legislative action would impose 128 00:08:58,555 --> 00:09:02,195 Speaker 1: serious harm on the citizens we serve, including the fact 129 00:09:02,235 --> 00:09:07,235 Speaker 1: that it will make them less safe un quote again, 130 00:09:07,995 --> 00:09:15,915 Speaker 1: Madame District Attorney. They're Republicans. That's their job, that's what 131 00:09:15,995 --> 00:09:25,555 Speaker 1: they do. Republicans like Peter Navarro pint sized, former advisor 132 00:09:25,635 --> 00:09:28,515 Speaker 1: to Trump, who has now been convicted of criminal contempt 133 00:09:28,515 --> 00:09:31,235 Speaker 1: of Congress. He defied a subpoena to testify to the 134 00:09:31,315 --> 00:09:35,595 Speaker 1: January sixth Committee, and that is well, criminal contempt of Congress. 135 00:09:36,635 --> 00:09:41,795 Speaker 1: This isn't a capital crime by any chance. Isn't it. No, sadly, 136 00:09:42,395 --> 00:09:46,315 Speaker 1: but Navarro has apparently been sentenced to be humiliated to 137 00:09:46,395 --> 00:09:52,035 Speaker 1: death by that same lady with that same Trump lost sign, 138 00:09:53,195 --> 00:09:56,515 Speaker 1: and people will not let me speak. This is my 139 00:09:56,555 --> 00:10:01,035 Speaker 1: first amendment, right. What I'm going to do now is allow. 140 00:10:02,995 --> 00:10:05,875 Speaker 2: Marsha just saw you, Marcia, I saw you. You're in trouble. 141 00:10:06,395 --> 00:10:07,035 Speaker 1: You're in trouble. 142 00:10:07,115 --> 00:10:08,035 Speaker 2: You just assaulted me. 143 00:10:08,275 --> 00:10:10,515 Speaker 4: That man just assaulted me. He stuck a plack pole 144 00:10:10,635 --> 00:10:18,875 Speaker 4: in between my Yeah, there you go. 145 00:10:19,235 --> 00:10:23,755 Speaker 1: Right now, they're calling you, I did it? 146 00:10:24,155 --> 00:10:25,715 Speaker 2: Fred? 147 00:10:26,315 --> 00:10:29,275 Speaker 1: What this public property? I want to press charges. 148 00:10:29,475 --> 00:10:32,075 Speaker 2: Let the man talk. Charges. Are interested in hearing the 149 00:10:32,155 --> 00:10:36,675 Speaker 2: man go ahead. Some of the go ahead and talk, 150 00:10:36,755 --> 00:10:42,635 Speaker 2: man go ahead. 151 00:10:44,955 --> 00:10:48,715 Speaker 1: Saday for America, and that not because not because they 152 00:10:48,715 --> 00:10:51,635 Speaker 1: were guilty verdicts, because I can't come out and have him. 153 00:10:51,675 --> 00:10:54,475 Speaker 1: Steve Bannon was sentenced to four months in jail for 154 00:10:54,555 --> 00:10:57,195 Speaker 1: the same crime he is appealing. Navara will likely get 155 00:10:57,195 --> 00:10:59,635 Speaker 1: a similar sentence. It was a Navara and Bannon, of course, 156 00:10:59,835 --> 00:11:02,195 Speaker 1: who called their plan to steal the twenty twenty election 157 00:11:02,235 --> 00:11:05,595 Speaker 1: from Joe Biden the quote green Bay Suite after a 158 00:11:05,595 --> 00:11:08,075 Speaker 1: play made famous by the Green Bay Packers football team 159 00:11:08,115 --> 00:11:11,155 Speaker 1: of the nineteen sixties. Neither of them apparently ever noticed 160 00:11:11,155 --> 00:11:13,995 Speaker 1: that after the Green Bay sweep stopped working, the Packers 161 00:11:13,995 --> 00:11:18,315 Speaker 1: only made the playoffs once in the ensuing fourteen seasons. Meanwhile, 162 00:11:18,795 --> 00:11:23,875 Speaker 1: Navarro's gnomish twin, Roger Stone, turns out he isn't dead 163 00:11:23,955 --> 00:11:27,755 Speaker 1: yet either. Stone the guy with the head shaped like 164 00:11:27,795 --> 00:11:30,315 Speaker 1: an onion, and the two pays so obvious you can 165 00:11:30,315 --> 00:11:32,835 Speaker 1: see where it gets stitched into his scalp, the way 166 00:11:32,875 --> 00:11:35,795 Speaker 1: the hair was on one of the dolls my sister 167 00:11:35,875 --> 00:11:40,275 Speaker 1: had in nineteen seventy and I continue to not really 168 00:11:40,395 --> 00:11:44,115 Speaker 1: know for sure if Roger Stone is really this dumb 169 00:11:44,195 --> 00:11:48,675 Speaker 1: and crazy, or he just realizes that the Trump cult 170 00:11:48,995 --> 00:11:52,235 Speaker 1: is really this dumb and crazy, or if it's both. 171 00:11:53,035 --> 00:11:56,155 Speaker 1: Occasionally evidence will bubble up to the top of the 172 00:11:56,195 --> 00:11:59,195 Speaker 1: cesspool that is Roger Stone's life that makes me lean 173 00:11:59,235 --> 00:12:03,355 Speaker 1: one way or the other. This piece of evidence suggests 174 00:12:03,595 --> 00:12:09,755 Speaker 1: he's crazy. Simply put, Roger Stone does not understand nuclear war. 175 00:12:09,835 --> 00:12:13,595 Speaker 1: The Biden administration is considering using the War Powers Act 176 00:12:13,795 --> 00:12:16,595 Speaker 1: and starting a nuclear war with the Russians in order 177 00:12:16,635 --> 00:12:19,915 Speaker 1: to avoid losing the next election. Biden's going to start 178 00:12:19,915 --> 00:12:23,955 Speaker 1: a nuclear war to cancel the twenty twenty four election. 179 00:12:24,395 --> 00:12:29,555 Speaker 1: See Roger a nuclear war it would cancel a lot 180 00:12:29,595 --> 00:12:33,275 Speaker 1: more than just the election. Because I'm sorry, I forgot 181 00:12:33,275 --> 00:12:36,155 Speaker 1: who I was talking to here. Roger Stone does not 182 00:12:36,275 --> 00:12:43,795 Speaker 1: understand nuclear war, and Roger Stone does not understand you know, death. 183 00:12:48,195 --> 00:12:50,155 Speaker 1: It's been a long time since we've gotten to watch 184 00:12:50,155 --> 00:12:53,835 Speaker 1: a politician self destructing real time in slow motion. So 185 00:12:54,075 --> 00:12:57,075 Speaker 1: enjoy Ron DeSantis while we can, because he seems to 186 00:12:57,115 --> 00:13:02,195 Speaker 1: be real close to spontaneously bursting into flame. After the 187 00:13:02,235 --> 00:13:05,075 Speaker 1: shooting at the Jacksonville dollar store where the South professed 188 00:13:05,155 --> 00:13:09,315 Speaker 1: Nazi mass murderer went to specifically kill black people, DeSantis 189 00:13:09,475 --> 00:13:13,755 Speaker 1: was appropriately heckled at a memorial vigil, and now he 190 00:13:13,835 --> 00:13:17,195 Speaker 1: has been confronted about his role ginning up racial hatred 191 00:13:17,195 --> 00:13:21,595 Speaker 1: in Florida by defending slavery. It's his platform. He's been 192 00:13:21,955 --> 00:13:24,755 Speaker 1: confronted about that role at an event at a bar 193 00:13:25,075 --> 00:13:29,235 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville by a self identified Air Force veteran, and 194 00:13:29,315 --> 00:13:31,555 Speaker 1: Ron lost his spit. 195 00:13:35,475 --> 00:13:40,235 Speaker 2: Murder Rayvon Mark was not the first, the first of all. 196 00:13:41,195 --> 00:13:43,115 Speaker 1: I did not allow anything with that. 197 00:13:43,555 --> 00:13:45,435 Speaker 2: Well, listen, excuse me. 198 00:13:46,035 --> 00:13:48,315 Speaker 4: I'm not going to let you accuse me of committing 199 00:13:48,395 --> 00:13:49,475 Speaker 4: criminal activity. 200 00:13:49,595 --> 00:13:51,555 Speaker 2: I am not going to take that. I am not 201 00:13:51,635 --> 00:13:52,315 Speaker 2: going to take that. 202 00:13:52,915 --> 00:13:56,235 Speaker 4: So you should you want to have a civil conversation, 203 00:13:56,395 --> 00:13:57,075 Speaker 4: that's one thing. 204 00:13:57,315 --> 00:13:59,515 Speaker 2: Try to say that I'm letting that guy. 205 00:13:59,395 --> 00:14:02,675 Speaker 4: Was baker after he should have been He should have 206 00:14:02,715 --> 00:14:06,635 Speaker 4: been ruled ineligible, but they didn't voluntarily commit him, and 207 00:14:06,675 --> 00:14:07,115 Speaker 4: so they were. 208 00:14:08,715 --> 00:14:09,555 Speaker 2: No, No, I don't know. 209 00:14:09,715 --> 00:14:12,395 Speaker 4: No, there is the truth. There is something about the truth. 210 00:14:12,635 --> 00:14:18,275 Speaker 4: If not, everyone doesn't have their own truth. No, you 211 00:14:18,355 --> 00:14:22,275 Speaker 4: don't get to come here and blame me for some madman. 212 00:14:22,435 --> 00:14:25,115 Speaker 4: That is not appropriate and I'm not going to accept. 213 00:14:25,155 --> 00:14:28,515 Speaker 1: The unidentified citizen was then pushed out of the room 214 00:14:28,595 --> 00:14:32,515 Speaker 1: by what appeared to be DeSantis henchwoman Christina Pushaw. And 215 00:14:32,555 --> 00:14:35,075 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody else on this planet looks like 216 00:14:35,155 --> 00:14:39,475 Speaker 1: Christina Peshaw. And after he left Desanta's hacked, State Surgeon 217 00:14:39,555 --> 00:14:44,075 Speaker 1: General Joseph Ladoppo, who has told Floridians to trust DeSantis 218 00:14:44,075 --> 00:14:46,835 Speaker 1: on COVID quote instead of all these PhDs and mds 219 00:14:47,315 --> 00:14:51,315 Speaker 1: forgetting that he himself is an MD. Duppo then told 220 00:14:51,355 --> 00:14:53,995 Speaker 1: the crowd that the man quote was obviously crazy, right, 221 00:14:54,315 --> 00:14:58,195 Speaker 1: He's completely completely disconnected. He was insane, He was insane, 222 00:14:58,235 --> 00:15:01,355 Speaker 1: just totally crazy, and it's not true. It's a total lie. 223 00:15:02,715 --> 00:15:05,795 Speaker 1: Quote doctor unquote, Ladappo, so may still be up there 224 00:15:05,915 --> 00:15:09,875 Speaker 1: kissing DeSantis's ass for all I know. And a reminder 225 00:15:09,915 --> 00:15:13,755 Speaker 1: about DeSantis. Our gun crisis may not be one hundred 226 00:15:13,755 --> 00:15:16,755 Speaker 1: percent Republican, but it is like ninety five percent, just 227 00:15:16,795 --> 00:15:19,875 Speaker 1: as our democracy crisis may not be one hundred percent Republican, 228 00:15:20,315 --> 00:15:28,475 Speaker 1: but it's like ninety five percent. And the other five 229 00:15:28,515 --> 00:15:31,915 Speaker 1: percent is Elon Musk. You've already heard this story, no doubt. 230 00:15:31,955 --> 00:15:35,635 Speaker 1: It's in My old Boss, Walter Isaacson's new book about Musk. 231 00:15:36,235 --> 00:15:39,395 Speaker 1: Walter writes that last year, Musk ordered his engineers in 232 00:15:39,435 --> 00:15:42,795 Speaker 1: secret to switch off the Starlink satellite network. He had 233 00:15:42,835 --> 00:15:47,195 Speaker 1: made such a big deal about supplying to Ukraine. Now, 234 00:15:47,235 --> 00:15:50,795 Speaker 1: why did he do that? To prevent a Ukrainian sneak 235 00:15:50,915 --> 00:15:55,875 Speaker 1: submarine drone attack on Russia's naval fleet. Elon hit the 236 00:15:55,915 --> 00:16:00,155 Speaker 1: off button and the explosive leaden drones lost guidance and 237 00:16:00,275 --> 00:16:04,635 Speaker 1: just harmlessly floated back to shore. Musk was a friend. 238 00:16:04,995 --> 00:16:08,195 Speaker 1: If the attack had gone through, it would be viewed 239 00:16:08,395 --> 00:16:12,955 Speaker 1: as a quote mini pearl harbor. And let's just discuss 240 00:16:12,995 --> 00:16:17,515 Speaker 1: for a second what a mini pearl harbor. Might look 241 00:16:17,675 --> 00:16:24,995 Speaker 1: like country and music fans with many Pearl harbor. He 242 00:16:25,115 --> 00:16:27,555 Speaker 1: thought it would be viewed as a mini Pearl harbor 243 00:16:27,635 --> 00:16:30,795 Speaker 1: according to Walter Isaacson's book, and then the Russians would 244 00:16:30,795 --> 00:16:35,155 Speaker 1: respond with nuclear weapons or possibly buck Owens and the 245 00:16:35,155 --> 00:16:46,195 Speaker 1: Bukereoos mini pearl harbor. There's a punchline besides many pearl 246 00:16:46,595 --> 00:16:50,515 Speaker 1: The noted twitter a liberal NYC Southpaw uncovered a Twitter 247 00:16:50,555 --> 00:16:53,555 Speaker 1: exchange from October ninth, twenty twenty two, in which somebody 248 00:16:53,715 --> 00:16:57,675 Speaker 1: asks Musk what his plans were for that Sunday, and 249 00:16:57,795 --> 00:17:00,195 Speaker 1: Musk answers, I've been up all night trying to think 250 00:17:00,195 --> 00:17:03,355 Speaker 1: of any possible way to de escalate this war, which 251 00:17:03,395 --> 00:17:09,035 Speaker 1: is when the fascist blogger from Malaysia, Ian miles Chong replies, quote, 252 00:17:09,275 --> 00:17:11,795 Speaker 1: might be a good idea to take starlink offline for 253 00:17:11,835 --> 00:17:14,915 Speaker 1: the terminals used on the front lines. Could encourage them 254 00:17:14,915 --> 00:17:18,555 Speaker 1: to reconsider their position on advancing towards CRIMEA and leading 255 00:17:18,595 --> 00:17:21,355 Speaker 1: the world further into the brink of total war. Unquote 256 00:17:21,635 --> 00:17:26,555 Speaker 1: guess who? Ian miles Chong works for RT, the Russian 257 00:17:26,595 --> 00:17:31,755 Speaker 1: propaganda network. Five days later, sure enough, Ukraine reported widespread 258 00:17:31,755 --> 00:17:36,635 Speaker 1: outages in the starlink service this country needs to revoke 259 00:17:36,955 --> 00:17:41,515 Speaker 1: any security clearances Musk might have, cancel all government contracts 260 00:17:41,515 --> 00:17:44,795 Speaker 1: with him and any Musk firm, particularly military ones, and 261 00:17:44,835 --> 00:17:49,155 Speaker 1: if possible, deport him. He is, and this is the 262 00:17:49,355 --> 00:18:00,075 Speaker 1: kindest interpretation, he is under the influence of Russia. Lastly, 263 00:18:00,475 --> 00:18:02,955 Speaker 1: nothing new out of DC nothing. I got nothing on 264 00:18:03,035 --> 00:18:06,875 Speaker 1: these sealed motions between Jack Smith and Trump's lawyers over 265 00:18:06,915 --> 00:18:09,635 Speaker 1: what Smith in the only part of this they made 266 00:18:09,635 --> 00:18:14,035 Speaker 1: public termed quote the defendant's daily extra judicial statements that 267 00:18:14,115 --> 00:18:17,595 Speaker 1: threatened to prejudice the jury pool in this case, what 268 00:18:17,715 --> 00:18:20,955 Speaker 1: a sentence. Smith has got to be asking the judge 269 00:18:20,995 --> 00:18:25,035 Speaker 1: to do something to Trump for that daily extra judicial 270 00:18:25,115 --> 00:18:28,875 Speaker 1: statements that threaten to prejudice the jury pool. What are 271 00:18:28,915 --> 00:18:31,795 Speaker 1: we supposed to do? Send him a card of congratulations, 272 00:18:32,675 --> 00:18:37,195 Speaker 1: a mini pearl CD. He's got to do something to him, 273 00:18:39,235 --> 00:18:41,155 Speaker 1: or he wants something to be done to him, and 274 00:18:41,275 --> 00:18:45,075 Speaker 1: maybe Judge Chutkin starts the trial sooner as she threatened 275 00:18:45,155 --> 00:18:49,715 Speaker 1: or sanctions Trump or gags Trump. Hopefully literally nothing new 276 00:18:49,755 --> 00:18:54,155 Speaker 1: on this, but something new about this. Those blood curdling 277 00:18:54,195 --> 00:18:57,475 Speaker 1: headlines yesterday from the CNN Biden poll, three quarters of 278 00:18:57,515 --> 00:19:01,275 Speaker 1: Americans concerned about his age including Democrats. There's no clear 279 00:19:01,355 --> 00:19:04,635 Speaker 1: leader in Biden versus Trump, or Biden versus dessiatists, or 280 00:19:04,715 --> 00:19:07,755 Speaker 1: Biden versus Dim Scott, or Biden versus Pence, or Biden 281 00:19:07,835 --> 00:19:11,115 Speaker 1: versus the cyborg Gramaswami, it's a nightmare. It's the end. 282 00:19:11,155 --> 00:19:12,515 Speaker 1: It's it's, it's, it's it's. 283 00:19:12,795 --> 00:19:13,395 Speaker 2: I told you. 284 00:19:13,395 --> 00:19:18,115 Speaker 1: Once that MSNBC's original plan in two thousand and three 285 00:19:18,195 --> 00:19:20,315 Speaker 1: was for a show at eight pm every night called 286 00:19:20,915 --> 00:19:25,635 Speaker 1: Countdown with Sam Donaldson. And then they found out that 287 00:19:25,795 --> 00:19:28,955 Speaker 1: instead of getting one of America's top journalists in Sam 288 00:19:28,955 --> 00:19:31,995 Speaker 1: Donaldson and crying him away from ABC, then they found 289 00:19:31,995 --> 00:19:34,355 Speaker 1: out that ABC was desperately trying to get rid of 290 00:19:34,395 --> 00:19:38,635 Speaker 1: Sam Donaldson. And they found this out after NBC had 291 00:19:38,675 --> 00:19:41,155 Speaker 1: drawn up a contract with Sam Donaldson, and they needed 292 00:19:41,155 --> 00:19:43,875 Speaker 1: a way out and fast. And I was sitting there 293 00:19:43,915 --> 00:19:47,475 Speaker 1: as Phil Griffin of MSNBC called up the pollster Frank 294 00:19:47,555 --> 00:19:50,435 Speaker 1: Lunz and said, Frank, I need a focus group done 295 00:19:50,475 --> 00:19:54,355 Speaker 1: tomorrow that shows that nobody would watch Countdown with Sam Donaldson. 296 00:19:54,555 --> 00:19:56,955 Speaker 1: And I need another one that says everybody would watch 297 00:19:56,995 --> 00:20:01,635 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Alderman and Hot Damn. The two focus 298 00:20:01,675 --> 00:20:05,035 Speaker 1: groups were on Griffin's desk forty eight hours later, and 299 00:20:05,115 --> 00:20:09,915 Speaker 1: six weeks later we launched Countdown with Keith Alderman and 300 00:20:10,035 --> 00:20:13,035 Speaker 1: without Sam Donaldson. Ever since that moment, I have known 301 00:20:13,355 --> 00:20:18,715 Speaker 1: that polls and focus groups and research and pollsters, they 302 00:20:18,715 --> 00:20:24,835 Speaker 1: are the balloon animals of politics twist the many way 303 00:20:24,915 --> 00:20:27,475 Speaker 1: you want because they're just made out of hot air. 304 00:20:28,995 --> 00:20:31,395 Speaker 1: That Biden shouldn't run. In fact, you should retire, In 305 00:20:31,395 --> 00:20:33,275 Speaker 1: fact you should resign, In fact you should change his name. 306 00:20:33,315 --> 00:20:37,435 Speaker 1: CNN poll quoting the overview in the back, which is 307 00:20:37,475 --> 00:20:43,155 Speaker 1: on page like three hundred ninety seven quote. Surveys were 308 00:20:43,155 --> 00:20:46,115 Speaker 1: obtained August twenty five to thirty one, twenty twenty three, 309 00:20:46,235 --> 00:20:50,195 Speaker 1: with a representative sample of n equals one thousand, five 310 00:20:50,275 --> 00:20:57,235 Speaker 1: hundred and three respondents, including an oversample of Republicans and 311 00:20:57,275 --> 00:21:00,275 Speaker 1: Republican leaning independents, to reach a total of eight hundred 312 00:21:00,315 --> 00:21:05,955 Speaker 1: and ninety eight Republicans and Republican leading independence unquote. So 313 00:21:09,315 --> 00:21:16,675 Speaker 1: you're telling me what here, CNN asked like nine hundred 314 00:21:16,715 --> 00:21:24,395 Speaker 1: Republicans but only six hundred non Republicans these questions for 315 00:21:24,595 --> 00:21:28,675 Speaker 1: their poll that shows Biden is doing poorly with Democrats 316 00:21:29,315 --> 00:21:35,875 Speaker 1: and independents. Did John Eastman take this poll. Where's that 317 00:21:35,995 --> 00:21:45,915 Speaker 1: under attorney client privilege? Also, you got over sample here 318 00:21:45,955 --> 00:21:48,835 Speaker 1: like junior samples from here, Haull along with many Pearl Harbor, 319 00:21:49,795 --> 00:21:54,315 Speaker 1: many Pearl Harbor. Okay, the Predni zone is kicking in, 320 00:21:54,395 --> 00:21:57,395 Speaker 1: so I can still do Worse Persons starring Republican podcaster 321 00:21:57,555 --> 00:22:02,555 Speaker 1: and Weenie Wagger Stephen Crowder. That's next. This is countdown? 322 00:22:04,835 --> 00:22:08,515 Speaker 2: Is this countdown with Keith Olberman. 323 00:22:21,355 --> 00:22:23,955 Speaker 1: Still a head on countdown? Ever heard the story of 324 00:22:23,955 --> 00:22:26,155 Speaker 1: the guy who gives the owner of the new, big 325 00:22:26,355 --> 00:22:30,515 Speaker 1: merged automobile company early in the twentieth century a suggestion 326 00:22:30,675 --> 00:22:33,555 Speaker 1: for the new name of the company, and he turns 327 00:22:33,595 --> 00:22:35,755 Speaker 1: down stock in the new company, And the next thing 328 00:22:35,755 --> 00:22:38,955 Speaker 1: you know in the new company is General Motors. That 329 00:22:39,155 --> 00:22:44,555 Speaker 1: was my great grandfather. No, I'm not kidding. Plus, Okay, 330 00:22:44,595 --> 00:22:46,155 Speaker 1: I think I can get through the daily roundup of 331 00:22:46,155 --> 00:22:49,355 Speaker 1: the Misscreens, morons and Dunn Krug effect specimens who constitute 332 00:22:49,355 --> 00:22:52,155 Speaker 1: today's worst persons in the world. Let's find out, shall we. 333 00:22:52,835 --> 00:22:57,835 Speaker 1: The Bronze Mike Buckner. Mike is an explorer. Maybe what 334 00:22:57,955 --> 00:23:00,955 Speaker 1: he surely is is a flat earther. Mike is in 335 00:23:01,075 --> 00:23:04,275 Speaker 1: root now for his big trip by Saturday, he will 336 00:23:04,275 --> 00:23:10,355 Speaker 1: have reached the ice wall. The ice wall, the ice wall, 337 00:23:10,475 --> 00:23:14,555 Speaker 1: come on, the thing that circles Australia and South America 338 00:23:14,595 --> 00:23:17,915 Speaker 1: and Hawaii, and it keeps us from reaching Atlantis and 339 00:23:18,035 --> 00:23:22,035 Speaker 1: Magellan's Aisles and the walls of Asgard, and gives us 340 00:23:22,035 --> 00:23:23,995 Speaker 1: this mistake and believes that the Earth is a globe 341 00:23:24,115 --> 00:23:26,795 Speaker 1: rather than the flat terrain that's just north of the 342 00:23:26,835 --> 00:23:30,915 Speaker 1: frozen wastes and just each of the scorched wastes. You know, 343 00:23:32,315 --> 00:23:36,435 Speaker 1: I will expose the globe myth, Buckner writes, I will 344 00:23:36,435 --> 00:23:39,155 Speaker 1: live stream this journey. This will be the biggest event 345 00:23:39,195 --> 00:23:43,555 Speaker 1: of all time. Mike's a looney, but he's a happy loony. 346 00:23:44,835 --> 00:23:46,835 Speaker 1: He's happy now. I don't know what happens when he 347 00:23:46,835 --> 00:23:49,635 Speaker 1: finds out that Atlantis is just a resort in Wisconsin. 348 00:23:49,715 --> 00:23:53,915 Speaker 1: Dell's Wisconsin, the runner up CNN Politics. Boy, they had 349 00:23:53,915 --> 00:23:56,995 Speaker 1: a bad day yesterday, you know the Tubberville story. Of course, 350 00:23:57,315 --> 00:23:59,435 Speaker 1: this idiot with the giant ears is holding up three 351 00:23:59,515 --> 00:24:03,315 Speaker 1: hundred military promotions, aiding and abetting the Communists, according to 352 00:24:03,395 --> 00:24:06,955 Speaker 1: the Secretary of the Navy, in a political stunt. And 353 00:24:06,955 --> 00:24:08,675 Speaker 1: then he has the gall to complain that a board 354 00:24:08,795 --> 00:24:12,275 Speaker 1: naval vessels. They're doing poetry, like, what would that matter 355 00:24:12,275 --> 00:24:14,915 Speaker 1: to Tommy Tuberville. He can't read and the people who 356 00:24:14,995 --> 00:24:19,275 Speaker 1: voted for him can't read you now, CNN Politics headlined 357 00:24:19,275 --> 00:24:24,595 Speaker 1: this story how this disloyal, anti American backwards failed football 358 00:24:24,635 --> 00:24:27,835 Speaker 1: coach OAF is undercutting the American military. This was their 359 00:24:27,875 --> 00:24:32,515 Speaker 1: headline on CNN's website. The escalating feud between Democrats and 360 00:24:32,595 --> 00:24:36,235 Speaker 1: Senator Tommy Tuberville over the Alabama Republicans hold on roughly 361 00:24:36,355 --> 00:24:38,835 Speaker 1: three hundred military nominees could soon lead to an even 362 00:24:38,915 --> 00:24:43,395 Speaker 1: riskier stitution. Really, CNN, the escalating feud is between Tommy 363 00:24:43,435 --> 00:24:48,715 Speaker 1: Tuberville and people who like America. An escalating feud between 364 00:24:48,795 --> 00:24:51,555 Speaker 1: Democrats and Tubberville ought to be in prison. It's not 365 00:24:51,635 --> 00:24:54,875 Speaker 1: a feud. There aren't two sides here. You aren't playing 366 00:24:54,875 --> 00:24:58,115 Speaker 1: it straight down the middle. That headline is lending authenticity 367 00:24:58,155 --> 00:25:02,515 Speaker 1: to a dickhead, racist, cracker scumbag doing the work of 368 00:25:02,595 --> 00:25:08,595 Speaker 1: China from Alabama. Shame you, but our winner someone who 369 00:25:08,675 --> 00:25:12,635 Speaker 1: knows no shame disgraced conservative influencer Stephen Crowder, who has 370 00:25:12,675 --> 00:25:16,115 Speaker 1: been gradually disappearing from the conservative scene since he was 371 00:25:16,155 --> 00:25:19,595 Speaker 1: accused by one group of male employees of exposing himself 372 00:25:19,635 --> 00:25:22,275 Speaker 1: to them. Then he was accused by another group of 373 00:25:22,315 --> 00:25:25,155 Speaker 1: exposing himself to them. Then he was accused by another 374 00:25:25,155 --> 00:25:28,395 Speaker 1: group of sending them pictures of it. Crowder has now 375 00:25:28,435 --> 00:25:32,235 Speaker 1: bought an Elon musk ad and this is telling. It 376 00:25:32,315 --> 00:25:35,275 Speaker 1: only appeared in like two thousand users feeds in the 377 00:25:35,315 --> 00:25:38,675 Speaker 1: first four hours, and it was retweeted a total. 378 00:25:38,395 --> 00:25:41,595 Speaker 2: Of three times. Three times. 379 00:25:42,435 --> 00:25:45,835 Speaker 1: The ad reads quote can't stand liberals need a laugh? 380 00:25:46,195 --> 00:25:51,515 Speaker 1: Follow me to heal myself unquote a laugh, Crowder, You 381 00:25:51,555 --> 00:25:56,075 Speaker 1: mean you're gonna expose you're junk again, Stephen and hand 382 00:25:56,115 --> 00:26:03,675 Speaker 1: out magnifying glasses. Crowder two days worst person, I can't 383 00:26:03,715 --> 00:26:06,235 Speaker 1: do the high end of this worst person in the world, 384 00:26:21,835 --> 00:26:23,675 Speaker 1: to the top of the countdown and the number one 385 00:26:23,755 --> 00:26:27,195 Speaker 1: story in my favorite topic, me and what is some 386 00:26:27,475 --> 00:26:31,075 Speaker 1: much needed comic relief today. I think though my late 387 00:26:31,115 --> 00:26:35,235 Speaker 1: father would never have agreed with that statement, not at all. 388 00:26:36,355 --> 00:26:40,195 Speaker 1: My great grandfather told this story something like every day 389 00:26:40,315 --> 00:26:43,075 Speaker 1: until he died. It was legendary in the family. There 390 00:26:43,115 --> 00:26:46,475 Speaker 1: is considerable circumstantial evidence that it is all true, and 391 00:26:46,555 --> 00:26:49,035 Speaker 1: the last possible date that it could have happened was 392 00:26:49,075 --> 00:26:53,795 Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen years ago last Friday, September sixteenth, 393 00:26:53,915 --> 00:26:59,315 Speaker 1: nineteen oh eight. Anthony Zelinski was born in Crackoff in 394 00:26:59,435 --> 00:27:02,595 Speaker 1: Poland in eighteen sixty eight. My sister just found some 395 00:27:02,635 --> 00:27:05,475 Speaker 1: evidence that he changed the way his name was spelled, 396 00:27:05,835 --> 00:27:09,315 Speaker 1: that it was originally Zelenski with two ys or two 397 00:27:09,395 --> 00:27:11,675 Speaker 1: eyes at the end, just like the Ukrainian president. We're 398 00:27:11,755 --> 00:27:15,155 Speaker 1: kind of pleased with her discovery. Anthony, or as my 399 00:27:15,275 --> 00:27:18,635 Speaker 1: father nicknamed him, the Great Financier, was a natural musician. 400 00:27:18,955 --> 00:27:22,155 Speaker 1: He could sing, play any instrument, He could compose music 401 00:27:22,195 --> 00:27:24,315 Speaker 1: and lyrics. He could teach you how to play. He 402 00:27:24,355 --> 00:27:27,395 Speaker 1: could build or repair anything from a kazoo to a 403 00:27:27,435 --> 00:27:31,195 Speaker 1: grand piano, and that from his late teens is how 404 00:27:31,235 --> 00:27:34,195 Speaker 1: he made his money. He traveled all around Europe from 405 00:27:34,315 --> 00:27:37,755 Speaker 1: maybe eighteen eighty six onwards, staying at rich people's houses 406 00:27:37,755 --> 00:27:40,835 Speaker 1: for several days, teaching the girls how to sing and 407 00:27:40,875 --> 00:27:43,315 Speaker 1: the boys how to play whatever was lying around the house, 408 00:27:43,715 --> 00:27:49,595 Speaker 1: fixing the family harpsichord, cobbling together the odd flute. One day, 409 00:27:49,995 --> 00:27:53,235 Speaker 1: we're guessing around eighteen eighty nine eighteen ninety he traveled 410 00:27:53,235 --> 00:27:55,595 Speaker 1: to the home of well off merchants in Odessa, then 411 00:27:55,635 --> 00:27:59,075 Speaker 1: part of Russia, the Shevchenkos. He taught the boys how 412 00:27:59,115 --> 00:28:00,875 Speaker 1: to sing and the girls how to play the organ, 413 00:28:00,915 --> 00:28:05,915 Speaker 1: and then he fell in love with the young daughter, Matrona. 414 00:28:06,755 --> 00:28:10,275 Speaker 1: The Chefshenkos were not happy when they discovered them in 415 00:28:11,195 --> 00:28:15,475 Speaker 1: love and chased my great grandfather and their daughter out 416 00:28:15,475 --> 00:28:17,715 Speaker 1: of the house, out of the city, and out of 417 00:28:17,755 --> 00:28:21,875 Speaker 1: the country. Antony went home to Poland, married his child bride, 418 00:28:22,115 --> 00:28:24,835 Speaker 1: returned to Crackoff, where all of his family then chased 419 00:28:24,875 --> 00:28:26,915 Speaker 1: them out of that house, out of that city, and 420 00:28:26,955 --> 00:28:29,115 Speaker 1: out of that country. Get lost with you and your 421 00:28:29,195 --> 00:28:32,595 Speaker 1: Russian horror, he would later tell the nephew for whom 422 00:28:32,635 --> 00:28:36,595 Speaker 1: my father was named, Teddy. Antony and Matrona had to 423 00:28:36,595 --> 00:28:39,235 Speaker 1: think fast. It's eighteen eighty nine, eighteen ninety. Where's a 424 00:28:39,235 --> 00:28:41,475 Speaker 1: hard working guy thrown out of Russia and Poland going 425 00:28:41,515 --> 00:28:44,595 Speaker 1: to go? They arrived in New York City within weeks. 426 00:28:44,915 --> 00:28:47,435 Speaker 1: As I said, he was a natural musician. He picked 427 00:28:47,475 --> 00:28:50,115 Speaker 1: up English quickly, and supposedly within a month or two, 428 00:28:50,115 --> 00:28:53,195 Speaker 1: he was leaving his wife, my great grandmother, in an 429 00:28:53,235 --> 00:28:56,675 Speaker 1: apartment in the Bronx and getting on trains for distant 430 00:28:56,675 --> 00:28:59,635 Speaker 1: cities as far west as Chicago, going to the rich 431 00:28:59,635 --> 00:29:02,555 Speaker 1: people's homes and getting one hundred dollars to teach the music, 432 00:29:02,595 --> 00:29:05,515 Speaker 1: write music, repair musical instruments, and then get right back 433 00:29:05,555 --> 00:29:08,995 Speaker 1: on the train to New York. Though he earned a 434 00:29:09,155 --> 00:29:12,355 Speaker 1: very good income doing this, especially for an immigrant, Antony 435 00:29:12,395 --> 00:29:15,955 Speaker 1: and Matrona lived frugally, often without hot water in their 436 00:29:15,995 --> 00:29:21,035 Speaker 1: home because my great grandfather was now driven, driven to 437 00:29:21,195 --> 00:29:25,515 Speaker 1: avenge himself deady He would tell his nephew, who sold 438 00:29:25,555 --> 00:29:28,355 Speaker 1: my dad, I save every dollar I can save I 439 00:29:28,395 --> 00:29:31,195 Speaker 1: in west in the safest investment in the world, the 440 00:29:31,315 --> 00:29:34,875 Speaker 1: Polish National Bonds. For one day, I shall return to Krackoff. 441 00:29:35,195 --> 00:29:37,035 Speaker 1: I shall buy the biggest house on top of the 442 00:29:37,035 --> 00:29:40,675 Speaker 1: biggest hill and stand outside all day waiving my money 443 00:29:40,675 --> 00:29:42,875 Speaker 1: at my relatives who made me and your aunt leave, 444 00:29:43,115 --> 00:29:46,395 Speaker 1: and saying to them, f you, this is my goal. 445 00:29:47,755 --> 00:29:50,635 Speaker 1: And on and on. This went for a decade and 446 00:29:50,755 --> 00:29:53,755 Speaker 1: more until he went to Flint, Michigan, to do his 447 00:29:53,835 --> 00:29:57,075 Speaker 1: usual routine to stay at the house of a prosperous American, 448 00:29:57,395 --> 00:30:00,635 Speaker 1: write a family song, repair the broken tuba, teach the 449 00:30:00,715 --> 00:30:03,355 Speaker 1: kids to play the guitar, and generally delight the family. 450 00:30:03,795 --> 00:30:05,875 Speaker 1: In this case, the fan only of a businessman who 451 00:30:05,875 --> 00:30:10,355 Speaker 1: he remembered as mister Billy. Came the end of my 452 00:30:10,435 --> 00:30:14,275 Speaker 1: great grandfather's stay with mister Billy in Michigan and his 453 00:30:14,355 --> 00:30:17,795 Speaker 1: family in Michigan, and mister Billy was so taken with 454 00:30:17,875 --> 00:30:20,635 Speaker 1: Antony's Zlynsky that he took him personally to the train 455 00:30:20,715 --> 00:30:24,235 Speaker 1: station in Flint and went with him onto the platform 456 00:30:24,315 --> 00:30:26,875 Speaker 1: to wait for the train. Mister Zelinsky, he said, we 457 00:30:26,915 --> 00:30:29,635 Speaker 1: have been delighted to have you here that I would 458 00:30:29,635 --> 00:30:31,995 Speaker 1: be honored if you would accept instead of the five 459 00:30:32,075 --> 00:30:35,515 Speaker 1: hundred dollars I owe you, please take one thousand dollars 460 00:30:35,595 --> 00:30:38,635 Speaker 1: in stock certificates from my business, my way of saying 461 00:30:38,675 --> 00:30:42,035 Speaker 1: thanks and hoping you can return and visit us again. 462 00:30:43,355 --> 00:30:45,995 Speaker 1: My great grandfather said he was almost moved to tears 463 00:30:46,035 --> 00:30:49,235 Speaker 1: by the gesture. But mister Billy, he explained, I live 464 00:30:49,395 --> 00:30:52,115 Speaker 1: very inexpensively and I invest all my money in the 465 00:30:52,155 --> 00:30:58,115 Speaker 1: world's safest in westmon the Polish National Bonds. Mister Billy 466 00:30:58,155 --> 00:31:00,755 Speaker 1: congratulated Antony on his prudence, but said, I believe I 467 00:31:00,795 --> 00:31:02,595 Speaker 1: am at the cusp of the next great business in 468 00:31:02,635 --> 00:31:05,315 Speaker 1: this country. I would again offer you this stock. I 469 00:31:05,355 --> 00:31:07,595 Speaker 1: think you will make so much money that you could 470 00:31:07,595 --> 00:31:13,235 Speaker 1: buy all the Polish National Bonds. My great grandfather, standing 471 00:31:13,315 --> 00:31:16,435 Speaker 1: there on the train station in Flint, Michigan, fought for 472 00:31:16,475 --> 00:31:20,075 Speaker 1: a moment. I know, mister Billy, you mentioned you own 473 00:31:20,075 --> 00:31:23,875 Speaker 1: a manufactory in town. What is this you manufactor? Mister 474 00:31:23,915 --> 00:31:26,995 Speaker 1: Billy said, we are in the automobile business. Mister Zelinsky, 475 00:31:27,115 --> 00:31:30,195 Speaker 1: my great grandfather lit up, Iss, the streets of New 476 00:31:30,275 --> 00:31:33,795 Speaker 1: York are filled with automobiles. This is the coming thing. 477 00:31:34,435 --> 00:31:37,115 Speaker 1: But I will still take the cash and in West, 478 00:31:37,115 --> 00:31:39,875 Speaker 1: in the world's safest in westment the Polish National Bonds. 479 00:31:41,035 --> 00:31:43,955 Speaker 1: The train was late. There was an awkward silence now 480 00:31:44,035 --> 00:31:47,275 Speaker 1: between them, which my great grandfather finally broke. Do I 481 00:31:47,355 --> 00:31:50,755 Speaker 1: know the name of your company, mister Billy? And mister 482 00:31:50,755 --> 00:31:53,715 Speaker 1: Billy replied, well, that's the topic of the moment, mister Zelensky, 483 00:31:53,755 --> 00:31:55,315 Speaker 1: and I must say, having gotten to know you a 484 00:31:55,315 --> 00:31:57,875 Speaker 1: little bit, I'm not at all surprised you brought this 485 00:31:57,955 --> 00:32:02,715 Speaker 1: subject up. Currently, my company is called Buick Motor Cars. 486 00:32:03,635 --> 00:32:06,715 Speaker 1: My great grandfather said, I, yes, Buck, I've heard of Buck. 487 00:32:06,995 --> 00:32:11,035 Speaker 1: You're changing the name, not exactly, said mister Billy. I 488 00:32:11,115 --> 00:32:13,955 Speaker 1: believe the automotive business is going to grow exponentially, but 489 00:32:13,995 --> 00:32:16,955 Speaker 1: we have one large company in the field, Ford, and 490 00:32:16,995 --> 00:32:19,955 Speaker 1: we have dozens of smaller ones like Buick. And I'm 491 00:32:19,995 --> 00:32:22,315 Speaker 1: about to buy up several of my competitors and form 492 00:32:22,435 --> 00:32:25,955 Speaker 1: one big company, bigger than Ford, and we will dominate 493 00:32:26,075 --> 00:32:30,955 Speaker 1: automobiles for decades to come. Ah, yes, said my great grandfather. 494 00:32:31,155 --> 00:32:35,475 Speaker 1: And what will you call this behemoth? Mister Billy laughed again. 495 00:32:35,595 --> 00:32:37,715 Speaker 1: You cut to the heart of the matter, mister Zelenski. 496 00:32:37,755 --> 00:32:40,475 Speaker 1: We're debating that right now. We need a name that 497 00:32:40,595 --> 00:32:45,515 Speaker 1: expresses our national stature. My great grandfather shook his head 498 00:32:45,515 --> 00:32:48,555 Speaker 1: at the obviousness of this. The problem is an easy one. No, 499 00:32:48,915 --> 00:32:53,075 Speaker 1: you use National National Motor Cars. Mister Billy laughed again. 500 00:32:53,835 --> 00:32:58,035 Speaker 1: Your insight is extraordinary. That was our first thought as well. 501 00:32:58,035 --> 00:33:00,755 Speaker 1: But which you believe. There is a company in Indiana, 502 00:33:00,835 --> 00:33:04,555 Speaker 1: of all places. They make electric automobiles which will never work, 503 00:33:04,995 --> 00:33:08,435 Speaker 1: and they're called National Motor Vehicles. We need another name. 504 00:33:08,635 --> 00:33:12,115 Speaker 1: American has also taken, Continental has taken. Damn it, mister Zelinsky. 505 00:33:12,195 --> 00:33:14,115 Speaker 1: We can't think of a good name that isn't already taken. 506 00:33:16,075 --> 00:33:18,515 Speaker 1: My great grandfather, who had just turned down the stock 507 00:33:18,995 --> 00:33:21,555 Speaker 1: and a thousand dollars worth of the stock in this company, 508 00:33:21,675 --> 00:33:24,355 Speaker 1: thought for a second, you wish to express the national, 509 00:33:24,475 --> 00:33:31,035 Speaker 1: the American, the broadly available or available national continental national. 510 00:33:31,915 --> 00:33:37,875 Speaker 1: What is the word in English? The general, the general 511 00:33:38,315 --> 00:33:42,235 Speaker 1: availability of your vehiculars? Well, mister Billy, why not that? 512 00:33:43,035 --> 00:33:50,715 Speaker 1: Why not general? General automobiles, general automotive, general motor car. Maybe, uh, 513 00:33:51,715 --> 00:33:55,955 Speaker 1: general motors. Now it was time for mister Billy to 514 00:33:55,995 --> 00:34:04,955 Speaker 1: become pensive. Finally he spoke General motors. Hmmm, do us 515 00:34:04,955 --> 00:34:07,795 Speaker 1: have a certain ring to it, mister Zelinsky, Oh, look, 516 00:34:08,115 --> 00:34:15,115 Speaker 1: here's your train. Mister Billy was, of course Billy Durant, 517 00:34:15,435 --> 00:34:18,555 Speaker 1: and he owned Durant Dorte, and then he owned Buick. 518 00:34:18,835 --> 00:34:22,075 Speaker 1: And then he consolidated thirteen auto manufacturers and ten parts 519 00:34:22,115 --> 00:34:25,555 Speaker 1: and accessory companies together into as it was called, on 520 00:34:25,595 --> 00:34:28,795 Speaker 1: the day Billy and his partners opened the escrow account Wednesday, 521 00:34:28,835 --> 00:34:33,515 Speaker 1: September sixteenth, nineteen oh eight, General Motors Holding Company, My 522 00:34:33,595 --> 00:34:37,115 Speaker 1: great grandfather, having gotten another five hundred dollars to invest 523 00:34:37,155 --> 00:34:40,435 Speaker 1: in the world's safest investment instead of one thousand dollars 524 00:34:40,475 --> 00:34:44,075 Speaker 1: in stock in not General Motors in nineteen oh eight, 525 00:34:44,195 --> 00:34:47,995 Speaker 1: but the company that would become General Motors, and having 526 00:34:48,035 --> 00:34:53,515 Speaker 1: given its chairman the name General Motors for free waved goodbye, 527 00:34:53,595 --> 00:34:57,475 Speaker 1: got on the train returned to New York. He died 528 00:34:57,555 --> 00:35:00,915 Speaker 1: fifteen years later, and to his credit, we know of 529 00:35:01,035 --> 00:35:04,315 Speaker 1: the detail of this story because the person who told 530 00:35:04,355 --> 00:35:06,555 Speaker 1: it to everyone with a laugh, with a warning to 531 00:35:06,595 --> 00:35:08,675 Speaker 1: his relatives that none of them had the genes of 532 00:35:08,715 --> 00:35:14,635 Speaker 1: a businessman either, was my great grandfather himself. Needless to say, 533 00:35:15,715 --> 00:35:19,755 Speaker 1: this good self deprecating humor makes him my favorite of 534 00:35:19,795 --> 00:35:23,115 Speaker 1: all my ancestors, and I hope wherever he went when 535 00:35:23,155 --> 00:35:25,875 Speaker 1: he died in nineteen twenty three, his humor went with him, 536 00:35:26,395 --> 00:35:29,075 Speaker 1: because there were several postscripts to this story that lend 537 00:35:29,115 --> 00:35:36,275 Speaker 1: it authenticity and induce further rage in his descendants. My 538 00:35:36,395 --> 00:35:39,155 Speaker 1: father was very much alive in nineteen forty. He was 539 00:35:39,195 --> 00:35:42,555 Speaker 1: an eleven year old boy with his uncle Teddy Antony's nephew, 540 00:35:42,635 --> 00:35:45,435 Speaker 1: living with my dad and grandparents and my uncles in 541 00:35:45,475 --> 00:35:48,875 Speaker 1: the Bronx. My dad, who did not meet his grandfather, 542 00:35:48,955 --> 00:35:51,835 Speaker 1: Antony Zelinski, said there was a knock on the apartment 543 00:35:51,875 --> 00:35:53,595 Speaker 1: door one day and he opened it to the site, 544 00:35:53,635 --> 00:35:55,875 Speaker 1: as he put it, of the two best suits of 545 00:35:55,955 --> 00:36:00,155 Speaker 1: clothing I had ever seen. The men wearing them asked 546 00:36:00,195 --> 00:36:03,955 Speaker 1: for my dad's uncle. He got him and the men 547 00:36:04,035 --> 00:36:08,075 Speaker 1: began to speak Polish to uncle Teddy, gentlemen, we are 548 00:36:08,155 --> 00:36:10,275 Speaker 1: here in America. You will please speak English in front 549 00:36:10,315 --> 00:36:14,035 Speaker 1: of my family, Mister Zelensky. One of them said, we 550 00:36:14,075 --> 00:36:16,555 Speaker 1: know that your uncle left you his investments in Polish 551 00:36:16,595 --> 00:36:20,355 Speaker 1: national bonds. He was obviously a great patriot. We represent 552 00:36:20,395 --> 00:36:23,355 Speaker 1: the Polish government in exile when we run the Nazis 553 00:36:23,355 --> 00:36:25,435 Speaker 1: out of our homeland and freedom is again ours. I 554 00:36:25,515 --> 00:36:28,915 Speaker 1: know your uncle would have and you would want the 555 00:36:28,915 --> 00:36:33,755 Speaker 1: free Polish National state to not be burdened financially, to 556 00:36:33,875 --> 00:36:38,275 Speaker 1: be unburdened. In fact, to the greatest possible degree, mister Zelensky, 557 00:36:38,315 --> 00:36:41,755 Speaker 1: your uncle was the fourth largest private investor in Polish 558 00:36:41,875 --> 00:36:44,155 Speaker 1: national bonds in North America. In fact, he was just 559 00:36:44,195 --> 00:36:48,115 Speaker 1: behind the National Bank of Mexico. Will you retire his 560 00:36:48,275 --> 00:36:52,435 Speaker 1: bonds for a nominal fee as a great Polish patriot. 561 00:36:54,835 --> 00:36:57,595 Speaker 1: My dad was never sure how nominal the fee was, 562 00:36:57,635 --> 00:36:59,595 Speaker 1: but he was convinced his uncle got less than five 563 00:36:59,675 --> 00:37:02,035 Speaker 1: hundred dollars for what was at least one hundred thousand 564 00:37:02,035 --> 00:37:05,235 Speaker 1: dollars in bonds dueing the year nineteen fifty or later. 565 00:37:06,435 --> 00:37:08,995 Speaker 1: My dad did not spend his life wondering about his 566 00:37:09,075 --> 00:37:13,075 Speaker 1: grandfather's magnificent moment of investment stupidity, but it would occasionally 567 00:37:13,115 --> 00:37:15,795 Speaker 1: wake him in the middle of the night, and on 568 00:37:15,915 --> 00:37:18,635 Speaker 1: his nightly commutes from Manhattan to our little home in 569 00:37:18,675 --> 00:37:21,435 Speaker 1: the suburbs, he came to know the other regulars on 570 00:37:21,475 --> 00:37:24,595 Speaker 1: the train, just like Don Draper did on Mad Men. 571 00:37:25,035 --> 00:37:27,875 Speaker 1: Same train, in fact, and one of the regulars on 572 00:37:27,915 --> 00:37:32,395 Speaker 1: the train turned out to be a stock historian. Eventually 573 00:37:32,475 --> 00:37:35,115 Speaker 1: Dad told him the story of Antony Zelensky and Billy 574 00:37:35,195 --> 00:37:38,835 Speaker 1: Durant and General Motors, and the stock historian invited him 575 00:37:38,875 --> 00:37:41,915 Speaker 1: to stop by the office at lunch one day. Sit down, Ted, 576 00:37:42,795 --> 00:37:47,755 Speaker 1: and I mean sit down, Ted. The historian showed his math. 577 00:37:48,435 --> 00:37:51,115 Speaker 1: This was what one thousand dollars in Buick in nineteen 578 00:37:51,115 --> 00:37:54,435 Speaker 1: oh eight turned into when Billy Durant created General Motors 579 00:37:54,435 --> 00:37:57,355 Speaker 1: in nineteen oh eight, And here's where it split, and 580 00:37:57,395 --> 00:38:00,115 Speaker 1: see and here's where it split again, and here's where 581 00:38:00,155 --> 00:38:02,755 Speaker 1: it quartered after they forced Durant out and then he 582 00:38:02,795 --> 00:38:05,715 Speaker 1: bought Chevrolet, and he came back and took over General 583 00:38:05,755 --> 00:38:08,715 Speaker 1: Motors again, and it split. And my father said, he 584 00:38:08,755 --> 00:38:13,635 Speaker 1: started to sweat. Just tell me already, Ted, the thousand dollars, 585 00:38:13,675 --> 00:38:17,115 Speaker 1: your great grandfather turned down in general motors in nineteen 586 00:38:17,115 --> 00:38:21,475 Speaker 1: oh eight would now be worth approximately sixty million dollars. 587 00:38:23,195 --> 00:38:25,715 Speaker 1: My father said he struggled to not pass out his 588 00:38:25,755 --> 00:38:28,195 Speaker 1: friend from the train, then said, plus the value of 589 00:38:28,235 --> 00:38:33,435 Speaker 1: the name. I can't get that exactly, the stock historian said, 590 00:38:33,475 --> 00:38:36,635 Speaker 1: but it's got to be another couple million, five ten maybe, 591 00:38:36,715 --> 00:38:39,355 Speaker 1: especially if he'd taken stock in exchange for the name. 592 00:38:41,955 --> 00:38:45,555 Speaker 1: There's one more twist to the knife. Well, so far, 593 00:38:45,675 --> 00:38:49,235 Speaker 1: there's still plenty of time for more. When the Unions 594 00:38:49,315 --> 00:38:52,515 Speaker 1: ran the Soviets out of Poland and Lech Valsa became 595 00:38:52,595 --> 00:38:55,195 Speaker 1: President of the Free Poland in nineteen ninety, he gave 596 00:38:55,235 --> 00:38:58,795 Speaker 1: a speech establishing the new government. He spoke naturally in Polish, 597 00:38:59,555 --> 00:39:02,555 Speaker 1: until that is, it was time to address one topic. 598 00:39:03,195 --> 00:39:06,115 Speaker 1: The president read that part of the speech in English. 599 00:39:06,595 --> 00:39:09,435 Speaker 1: My government will recognize and honor the following years of 600 00:39:09,475 --> 00:39:13,995 Speaker 1: the Polish national bonds. My father called me in Los 601 00:39:14,035 --> 00:39:16,955 Speaker 1: Angeles that night. He had spoken to his stock history 602 00:39:16,995 --> 00:39:20,835 Speaker 1: and friend again and gotten a new rough estimate. My 603 00:39:20,955 --> 00:39:25,115 Speaker 1: great grandfather had turned down sixty maybe seventy million dollars 604 00:39:25,155 --> 00:39:28,675 Speaker 1: in general motors stock to keep say one hundred thousand 605 00:39:28,675 --> 00:39:31,675 Speaker 1: dollars in Polish bonds due in the year nineteen fifty, 606 00:39:31,915 --> 00:39:34,635 Speaker 1: and lec Valessa had just said, we'll pay on those 607 00:39:34,675 --> 00:39:37,075 Speaker 1: bonds that were due in nineteen fifty. And so if 608 00:39:37,075 --> 00:39:42,075 Speaker 1: great grandfather's nephew Teddy had just sat on them, those 609 00:39:42,195 --> 00:39:47,995 Speaker 1: bonds would have been worth five or six million dollars. Keith, 610 00:39:49,035 --> 00:39:52,915 Speaker 1: my father said, quietly, let me remind you again what 611 00:39:53,035 --> 00:40:00,115 Speaker 1: the great financier my grandfather told everyone told all of us, 612 00:40:01,355 --> 00:40:05,235 Speaker 1: none of us, none of us have the genie s 613 00:40:05,555 --> 00:41:21,075 Speaker 1: sup A business Man Countdown with Keith Oldreman is a 614 00:41:21,075 --> 00:41:25,915 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the 615 00:41:25,955 --> 00:41:30,475 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.