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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Morning everybody, it's the j n V. Charlamagne the guy.

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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guests

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Speaker 2: in the building. Hold on the legendary.

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Speaker 3: I see he got his Morgan State.

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Speaker 4: Really bro, really bro.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just you know, want to put my

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Speaker 1: helmet man. Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 1: How y'all doing? Explain this to me?

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Speaker 5: I know the Hampton Howard rivalry, but state, so every

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Speaker 5: every every HBCU thinks it's the greatest HBCU that has

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Speaker 5: ever been HBCU guys.

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Speaker 4: Correct, the only real one.

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Speaker 1: Is Morgan State.

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Speaker 6: But then the other ones still feel like they are

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Speaker 6: a Morgan State. So you have that Howard Hampton thing

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Speaker 6: on more House thinks it's Morgan State.

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Speaker 1: You know, fam you thinks it's Morgan State.

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Speaker 6: And know this, I love those institutions, great institutions who

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Speaker 6: turn out incredible people.

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Speaker 3: But then nines, watch your mouth.

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Speaker 1: Morgan State.

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Speaker 3: I was good to go to Morgan State because that's

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Speaker 3: the first school that's on the tour.

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Speaker 1: You know your argument.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I was gonna go to Morgan

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Speaker 2: I was gonna go to you know, we go to

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Speaker 2: Morgan Howard vs U Virginia and then Hampton Hampton. Right

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Speaker 2: when I went to Morgan State, I remember it like

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Speaker 2: it was yesterday. The first thing we go on that

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Speaker 2: on the campus, well what you want to call it

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Speaker 2: a campus?

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Speaker 6: Oh no, you didn't, just because y'all got that little

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Speaker 6: river running behind y'all little school.

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Speaker 3: Little campus.

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Speaker 2: And then you know what I seen on my dad scene,

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Speaker 2: y'all playing craps on the steps.

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Speaker 3: Now, my dad was like, this is the same.

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Speaker 1: Thing as Queens.

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Speaker 3: Why are you gonna leave Queens to come to Baltimore.

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Speaker 6: That's the school you want to play craps on the steps,

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Speaker 6: that's what to So mine was the complete.

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Speaker 4: Object as soon as I seen the crowd, like this

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Speaker 4: is the place for pace.

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Speaker 6: This is definitely the place for me to get a degree.

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Speaker 6: It was perfect made five years. Then five years served

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Speaker 6: me well, the five years and Baltimo can do it

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Speaker 6: for No, I ain't do it in full me if

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Speaker 6: I didn't five.

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Speaker 1: No, I did.

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Speaker 6: I did my five and I was an r a man.

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Speaker 6: I did everything you could do at school. I was

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Speaker 6: the mascot one semester. I needed a gym credit. I

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Speaker 6: needed a gym credit. They was like, you wanna go

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Speaker 6: lift weights or you want to be the mascot. I said, man,

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Speaker 6: give me the bear outfits I was.

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Speaker 4: I was the most DC bed he ate I had

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Speaker 4: on my new ballance.

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Speaker 6: Because it was a raggedy suit. Listen, Charlomade, it was

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Speaker 6: a raggedy suit.

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Speaker 1: At the time.

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Speaker 6: We didn't have the funding to get a new mascot outfit.

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Speaker 6: At that time, Mortgas State was going through something, so

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Speaker 6: they gave me the old one that they used to

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Speaker 6: have and thet the head was perfect, the suit, the

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Speaker 6: feet garbage. So I used to rock whatever the bed

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Speaker 6: would come out rocking fresh, new bus, new butter tims,

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Speaker 6: beefing broccole is what you want.

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Speaker 1: And everybody who was the bed he fresh. Whoever the

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Speaker 1: bed the freshest man we ever had.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, if you walk on the HBCU campus and rolling

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Speaker 5: dice schedule, you might not need to go to an HBC.

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Speaker 2: Was like, this is the same thing I seen in

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Speaker 2: rolling craps.

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Speaker 4: But that was so what it is.

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Speaker 1: We wasn't rolling crafts. That was a probability study.

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Speaker 4: You wasn't your father.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't your pops wasn't here.

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Speaker 6: That was just a probability study I got from some

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Speaker 6: kids in the engineering department.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about what's going on in in Morgan right now,

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Speaker 2: Morgan State. You know there was a shooting there recently. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you guys have canceled the homecoming and there was a

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Speaker 2: lot going on. So have you reached back out to

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Speaker 2: know you're big when it comes to giving back to

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Speaker 6: So I was supposed to actually host our homecoming gala,

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Speaker 6: which is the biggest fundraiser of the year. I host

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Speaker 6: the gaily Year's shirt you know, tuxedo out, and that

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Speaker 6: got postponed to December the eighth. The game, you know,

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Speaker 6: all of the let's say this, the official homecoming got canceled.

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Speaker 1: But Black people homecoming went on as plans.

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Speaker 6: Oh, they were still part and they called it because

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Speaker 6: the homecoming got canceled. Brunch because the homegum we got canceled.

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Speaker 6: Day party because of the So we you know, you

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Speaker 6: have thousands of people who were looking forward to this weekend.

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Speaker 6: So they came down and had a great time and

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Speaker 6: showed solidarity. You even after the shooting, you had mothers.

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Speaker 6: There was a group of mothers who got together who

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Speaker 6: were not didn't have students, didn't have kids in school,

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Speaker 6: who came up just to show support for kids who

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Speaker 6: were far away from home, who.

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Speaker 1: Needed a mom. If you need a hug, if you

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Speaker 1: need to ask a mom question real quick, we're standing

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Speaker 1: right here. Wow.

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Speaker 6: And so while you know the tragedy happened, and you

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Speaker 6: know our prayers are with those students and their families

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Speaker 6: and everybody affected, there's also this gigantic push of.

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Speaker 1: Solidarity, this gigantic push of unity.

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Speaker 6: This is a new Morgan State, and we're gonna stand

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Speaker 6: together to shake off some of the old reputation, that

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Speaker 6: rolling craps reputation that we had and move in a

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Speaker 6: new positive way. When things like this pop up, it

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Speaker 6: throws a monkey rich into the we're a new Morgan thing.

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Speaker 1: So we came out even stronger. That's why I've been

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Speaker 1: I've been orange and blue since that day.

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Speaker 6: You know, my kids are walking around with the hats

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Speaker 6: and everything else, and I'm screaming it out as much

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Speaker 6: as I possibly can. These institutions. You know, I don't

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Speaker 6: have to come on here and preach to you what

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Speaker 6: an HBO means for our community. So you know, at

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Speaker 6: this time in my life, I'm happy to be able

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Speaker 6: to be there for my school.

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Speaker 1: Whatever they need.

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Speaker 6: They call me for anything, if the students need anything,

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Speaker 6: my frat brothers need anything.

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Speaker 1: They hit me up and like, let's go do X,

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Speaker 1: Y and Z. Do you think they should have canceled

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Speaker 1: on coming.

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Speaker 6: I think it was a good call by doctor Wilson

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Speaker 6: is an incredible leader for that school and with uh,

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Speaker 6: let's imagine if he didn't cancer this black Mama ain't canceling.

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Speaker 1: It's a tragedy.

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Speaker 6: So he did the smart thing. He did the thing

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Speaker 6: that someone in academia should do. Let's cancel this. Everybody

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Speaker 6: else though, we went and partied and everybody had a

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Speaker 6: great time yecause it's.

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Speaker 1: All the events around homecomer. Yeah none, no, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: you ain't. You ain't canceling rare essence.

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Speaker 6: You ain't canceling the go go because you know, you're

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Speaker 6: not even supposed to have a go go in Baltimore

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Speaker 6: in the first place.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that you got a go go in

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Speaker 1: Baltimore or we coming, and you're not canceling that you

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Speaker 1: can't go Baltimore. It's too old.

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Speaker 6: It's two different cities. So Baltimore, most of the country

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Speaker 6: doesn't rip, doesn't know that. There is a unspoken rivalry

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Speaker 6: between the African American community and Baltimore. In the African

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Speaker 6: American community in DC with thirty miles of forty fifty

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Speaker 6: miles a half hour a part, forty minutes apart, and

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Speaker 6: for us growing up, Baltimore is a whole nother country.

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Speaker 1: We don't even know that Baltimore is there. And for Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: growing up, DC is a whole nother stay south and

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Speaker 1: they country. They think that we country. We think that

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Speaker 6: And you very it's a field trip when you're growing up.

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Speaker 6: Baltimore is a field trip unless you have family there.

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Speaker 6: Baltimore is a field trip. You get their TV stations

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Speaker 6: maybe you know, if you live outside the city, you

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Speaker 6: get some of the TV stations.

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Speaker 1: They got their own language, they own and so we

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Speaker 1: have two. We grew up with two different.

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Speaker 6: Like you said, cultures, different accents, music, food, we did,

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Speaker 6: way we dress and the like. So when I got

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Speaker 6: to Baltimore, there was no go go whatsoever. You did

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Speaker 6: not don't even don't even bring that up in Baltimore

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Speaker 6: now because of I think because of the twenty thirty

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Speaker 6: years that DC has been heavy going to Morgan State

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Speaker 6: making alliances in the city. My wife is from the

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Speaker 6: West Side. First, let me say that my wife is

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Speaker 4: Like, hold on out, now, that's not what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, that's what we do.

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Speaker 6: You you don't sleep for her, you haven't had some

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Speaker 6: of that that old bait that she served. She's got

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Speaker 6: a crab boy for your ass that you you don't

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Speaker 6: know nothing about. And so I think that there's there's

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Speaker 6: there's slowly, but surely there's there's an alliance that has

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Speaker 6: been coming between Baltimore and DC, at least the the

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Speaker 6: the hard line has been softened. I won't say it

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Speaker 6: is an alliance, but the hard line has been softened

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Speaker 6: so that you can have a go go in d C.

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Speaker 6: DC still is hardcore. We won't accept like Baltimore night

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Speaker 6: but I love Baltimore club music, house music, I love

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Speaker 6: I look. It's such an incredible and rich city that

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Speaker 6: I have. So I gained so much respect for by

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Speaker 6: going to Morgan State and then by having friends who

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Speaker 6: then that just deepened, you know.

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Speaker 1: My appreciation for Baltimore.

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Speaker 6: I actually just opened a business in Baltimore's substance abuse

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Speaker 6: treatment facility in the city of Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: My wife and I, you know, I have a degree

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Speaker 1: in college in case.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and.

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Speaker 1: So we did that. So I had that's me and Baltimore.

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Speaker 6: And and for most people, you there's a documentary uh

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Speaker 6: oh god, I wish I could remember the name about

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Speaker 6: Baltimore house music that goes into their culture. And then

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Speaker 6: there's a there's tons of documentaries about go Go, you

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Speaker 6: see our culture, but you never hear about this rivalry

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Speaker 6: that we had that goes on.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the stupidest thing ever.

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Speaker 6: I think that the two communities, African American communities in

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Speaker 6: those major cities. DC's a major city, Baltimore is a

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Speaker 6: major city.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to come. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Is there anything that brings you all together? I would

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Speaker 5: think like comedy, right, because I think your comedy underrated.

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Speaker 5: Comedy is an underrated comedy scene in Baltimore, DC. Because

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Speaker 5: you got Dave, you got Donall, so here quick just hilarious.

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Speaker 1: So here's how we feel about that. The same applies.

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Speaker 1: So so it's like this growing up.

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Speaker 6: Anything coming out of Baltimore you just automatically and if

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Speaker 6: just automatically acts, not eight you don't know them. I

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Speaker 6: learned that from my bottom, my Baltimore goons.

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Speaker 1: What's up with yid? I ain't saying no names.

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Speaker 6: Let's up a child, but I know some straight goods

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Speaker 6: I always look for the best in people and always,

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Speaker 6: Helping brothers and sisters, right, That's what my parents instilled

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Speaker 6: Don't nobody come off from me? You know he ain't

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Speaker 1: Wow bad? Can I let me lay this out for you.

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Speaker 6: My oldest brother came out the closet when I was

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Speaker 2: That was a different time coming out of the closset

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Speaker 3: It's more difficult the way I say it on stage.

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Speaker 1: You know, ain't I history month? Fact?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 6: He comes out and he stands on his truth, that

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Speaker 6: The hood already knew.

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Speaker 4: I was like, y'all heard my brother gay. And they

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Speaker 6: By nineteen eighty eight, he was HIV positive. He came

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Speaker 6: bad days, he has his trials and tribulations. He's my

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Speaker 1: Warn if he came through all of that, all.

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Speaker 6: Of it and right, and he's six foot so he's

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Speaker 6: six foot four. We have different dads. We have different dads.

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Speaker 6: My dad raised him though. When my dad met my mom,

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Speaker 1: And he's six foot full. Uh, he's sixty one, six.

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Speaker 4: Foot full, gorgeous, just gorgeous black man cut walking.

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Speaker 1: Around now sixty one. He ain't never do an athletic

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Speaker 6: Right now, he's sixty one and cut, and it's like

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Speaker 1: And thank y'all for letting me talk about him on

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Speaker 2: You know, the funny thing is that what you said

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Speaker 6: We had differ day I saw myself in the the

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Speaker 1: He's like an HIV advocate to.

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Speaker 6: He's a he's an advocate for being aware what he

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Speaker 6: the world. As the younger brother, he never tried to

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Speaker 4: He never tried to make my opinion his opinion.

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Speaker 6: He never tried to impose any of that ship on

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Speaker 6: and for all the people who think, oh, you gave

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Speaker 1: Nah, man, it's not at all. You know how much do.

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Speaker 6: You know how often my wife anyway? Is he never

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Speaker 6: He never did any any of those things. And his

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Speaker 6: thing was like, Hey, that's not y'all, that's me. That's

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Speaker 6: Those brothers who didn't have a supportive family, I would

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Speaker 4: I was like, why are you over here every day?

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Speaker 1: Every Christmas? He don't go see his mother and stuff.

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Speaker 6: And then my brother's like his mother and father don't

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Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean. I didn't know

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Speaker 6: That's what I found exactly over time, I found out

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Speaker 5: How did that change your perspective on how you even

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Speaker 1: I guess in the world, it just.

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Speaker 6: Made me more of an ally when I need to be,

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Speaker 6: I don't. I don't go out waving the rainbow flag

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Speaker 6: for my brother. He was like, that's corny. If you're

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Speaker 1: Do what you do? B are you?

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Speaker 6: First of all? Are you a halfway decent person in

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Speaker 6: the world. That's what his biggest thing was, like, before

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Speaker 6: you can even support anybody. What kind of person are

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Speaker 6: We don't even want you around us, you know. Or

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Speaker 6: if it's a performative thing, please don't come around. So

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Speaker 6: that was always what he pushed for me, And you

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Speaker 1: This is my big brother, this is my older brinces.

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Speaker 6: What I learned everything from he taught me to fight,

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Speaker 4: Tell your ass, you're a stupid.

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Speaker 3: You're a stupid, You're a stupid.

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Speaker 1: I'm a comedian.

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Speaker 5: Envy you got in the comedy? Yes, okay, and the

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Speaker 1: Comedy comedy led to uh radio No, comedy led to

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Speaker 5: I was watching rap I was watching the doc last

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Speaker 5: They're texting me saying, Yo, we got your clip for them.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh shit, so I'm watching this, so.

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Speaker 1: You ain't do this. I mean, I put it in motions. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I told you. I saw you to be by you

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Speaker 1: got to have you on. But I'm watching the doc

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Speaker 1: and I saw that you called rap City every day.

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Speaker 6: Listen, bro, I called rap City. I called BT once

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Speaker 6: a week. I was watching the show every day like

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Speaker 6: Dejo and Chris and Lez had just come on, Liz

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Speaker 1: I had Ricky Lake. I got on The Ricky Lake

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Speaker 1: Show a year before.

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Speaker 6: This was her second season, when she was still doing

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Speaker 6: some Newsy Ship on the Ricky Lake Show.

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Speaker 4: Can we cut?

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Speaker 1: I can cut?

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Speaker 6: Well, see, I'm sorry. I have another life now. I

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Speaker 3: You in Okay, Well you can say whatever the fuck

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. So I'm fucking doing comedy anyway.

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Speaker 1: So I'm doing comedy. I'm going up to the to

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Speaker 6: I do the Ricky Lake Show, and I was like,

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Speaker 6: if I can get on Ricky Lay, So here's this

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Speaker 6: club on Thursday. Ricky Lay came on Wednesday. I go

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Speaker 6: to the club Thursday. Nigga, I'm blown up.

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Speaker 1: Everybody saw you on Ricky Lake.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, hold up. You was on Ricky Lake yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Why yes, I tell you, yeah, got it? And it

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Speaker 1: was like you.

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Speaker 6: I was just standing in here last week, in the

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Speaker 6: there and you look me in my face, lady, you ain't.

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Speaker 1: I was nobody.

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Speaker 4: I get on Ricky Lake. Oh lake Y like like drinks, You're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna hang out with us after and I was like

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Speaker 1: I gotta get on there every day.

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Speaker 6: I'm calling, right, So I was like, let me call

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Speaker 6: BT bt is is I was living in. I was

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Speaker 1: So I started calling, like four war one and then

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Speaker 1: can I have the director?

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Speaker 6: And they finally give me Keith Patchell and I get

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00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 6: his voicemail and when he didn't, I leave the message

446
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 6: and he didn't call back.

447
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 1: Let me call him again.

448
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 6: You know, when you nineteen, you got that you don't

449
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 6: have any clue how the industry works.

450
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 1: Now you know that's the.

451
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 4: Cornball and this this nigga keep calling my phone.

452
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 1: He's never gonna get a job. But when you're young,

453
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 1: you don't know that.

454
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 6: So I just kept kept kept kept kept kept calling. Well,

455
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 6: he never called me back. But a friend of mine,

456
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 6: J Nice, who was in the episode last night. DJJ

457
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 6: Nice was DJ and he's.

458
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 1: Like, gonna be on Rap City tomorrow, said you gonna

459
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 1: be on Rap City?

460
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 6: Mo?

461
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 4: Uh got rolle with you, like, yeah, sure, I said,

462
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 4: where y'all shooting at?

463
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: He said, I don't know.

464
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 6: I said, tell him, they an shoot in my house.

465
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 6: He's like, all right, cool, I'll tell him. He now,

466
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 6: I hadn't told anybody. I was calling Rap City every week,

467
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 6: look like goddamn food. So he called me back and said, Yo,

468
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 6: we'll be at your house tomorrow.

469
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 1: E Leven. I said, you're gonna be in my house

470
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: tomorrow and he living to shoot Rap City.

471
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 2: He said, yes, before you do that, I wasn't break

472
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 2: it down because I thought, you know, when our dja

473
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: Rap City.

474
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 6: Of course, it was a lot of years later. There

475
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 6: was a set, right, so before that there was it

476
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 6: was no set. This is and in the dock there

477
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 6: was a bunch. It's a dock, so they had to

478
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 6: cut out a bunch of stuff, just like he got

479
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 6: to edit this. Oh okay, cool, just push play. So

480
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 6: so they come to my house and our Fonts, who

481
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 6: was the producer at the time, our Fauns from the

482
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 6: Color shows up. He got Chino x al with him. Wow,

483
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 6: Chino x all. And at the time, this is before

484
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 6: Eminem had dropped.

485
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 7: And remember Gino x L was the King of the

486
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 7: you know Marty shott Heimer, right, you know he was

487
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 7: the king of of that type of shock uh.

488
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 1: Metaphoric lyrics, battle rapperst lyricism. She don't was the king

489
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: of that ship at the time. So he showed me.

490
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, you ain't have a set, just

491
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 3: set they shot.

492
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: In my living room. You had sign nothing. I ain't

493
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: none of that ship. This is the early days of

494
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: the BETS.

495
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 6: I had my own men and my me and my

496
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 6: roommate was living on Capitol Head in my line brother

497
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 6: and the the the the thing was when he said

498
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 6: would be there tomorrow. I got to back up a

499
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 6: little bit. When he said we'll be at your house tomorrow,

500
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 6: I said, cool, I.

501
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: Hung up the phone. I go in my room. I

502
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: was like a god. They said, you do stuff like this,

503
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: like but for real? Th god like BT coming.

504
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 6: To my house, Like hold up, you don't for real man?

505
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 6: You do this for me, man, I'll do whatever you

506
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 6: asked me to do.

507
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 2: No for real And for people listening in that don't know.

508
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 2: B e T used to be out of DC, right,

509
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: They weren't in New York.

510
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: They used to be DC. It was out, it was

511
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: out of it was out of DC.

512
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 6: So sure enough, they show up the next day and

513
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,959
Speaker 6: Chino XL Bompa wounded. So I'm like, oh man, I'm

514
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 6: you know, I'm my mind blowing. I'm a hip hop

515
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 6: head on my mind whatever y'all need. I got beer

516
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 6: in the refrigera. But we had no We had no furniture.

517
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 6: I had a bomb. It was exposed bricks, wall, spiral, staircase,

518
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 6: fire plays, none, no furniture.

519
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: It was perfect for a rap city shoot. Refrigerator full

520
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: of beer. Perfect.

521
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 6: Then it was like a Drake video. This is back

522
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 6: when you remember Drad the video. I was fresh out

523
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 6: of Connage. I want my ship to look like yeah. So,

524
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 6: but I was drinking forty is a genuine draft.

525
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing oe y New York Shire anyway.

526
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 4: The producer says, hey, man, you a comedian.

527
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: I said yeah.

528
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 6: He said, I saw you. You open for Paul Mooney.

529
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 6: Now I had snuck in Paul Mooney showing beg for

530
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 6: five minutes. Like I used to go to everybody. I

531
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 6: don't give a fuck who was coming to town. I'm

532
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 6: gonna go stage door. Can I get five minutes?

533
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: This time? They always told me no.

534
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 6: But this time when of the security knew me from

535
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 6: the club, like, nah that nigga funny put him on,

536
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 6: So I got on.

537
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: They let me do that. Fast forward eight months later, Yo,

538
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: you open for Paul Mooney And I was like, yay.

539
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 6: He's like, man, you funny shit, but I didn't know

540
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 6: your name. Blah blah blah blah blah. Hey we might

541
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 6: be looking for ye. All he had to say is

542
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 6: we might be looking I'm your guy.

543
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: Whatever the fuck you looking for, I can do it.

544
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: And he had me shoot a.

545
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 6: Few things while I was standing there with Chino exling them,

546
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 6: and then they gave me a couple of auditions and

547
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 6: next thing you know, I was the I was co

548
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 6: hosted with Big Legs.

549
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 5: You know what I realized last night watching that doc

550
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 5: man not realized it reminded me you and last had

551
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 5: some of the greatest chemistry I've.

552
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: Ever seen any duo have. Period. Did y'all know each

553
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: other before that?

554
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 6: Up?

555
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: It goes back to my brother, how I was raised

556
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: when you.

557
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 6: First of all, I got a strong mother and I

558
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 6: come from strong women. I got strong I had strong

559
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 6: ass pops too, but I had strong, strong, strong women.

560
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 6: Respecting women was just what you do at our house.

561
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 6: There's no two ways about it. And it's a modern woman.

562
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 6: You're not delegating them to any other thing, but as

563
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 6: equal as they want to show up that day, that's

564
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 6: who she is. I took that with me out in

565
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 6: the world, so if you look, I always work with women,

566
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 6: Me and lez Me and Takara. When I hosted Me

567
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 6: and Men to car I had the game show, We

568
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 6: had't take the Cake, Me and to Carra. Melissa fud

569
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 6: came on Mad Sports. When I hosted a couple of times,

570
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 6: it was great. I did more than radio Me and Sonny,

571
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 6: me and poet me. Now I'm on the news every

572
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 6: day and with Marina, I'm with Maureen. So I worked

573
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 6: really well with women, specifically because of what I was

574
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 6: taught about women, and then my brother taught me about

575
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 6: respecting people period.

576
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: The one of the narratives that's missed is it's a

577
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 1: person in here.

578
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 6: We like to think about the titties and the ass

579
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 6: and how she's looking today, or the ladies like the

580
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 6: lord he got, the chain, he got the or whatever's

581
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 6: going to the physical attributes of a person, But it's

582
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 6: a person in there. She got up this morning, had

583
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 6: to do everything. She had to do to get out

584
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 6: the door, to get to work, to be on time

585
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 6: to shoot this show. She nervous too, She don't know everything, NIGGI.

586
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 6: The last thing she need is me trying to throw

587
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 6: her some dick.

588
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: So what would you do if it was her brother?

589
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: How you doing today? Good to see you, man. Let's

590
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: get this in. And that's how I treat. That's how.

591
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 6: That's what me and Liz were off the break and she,

592
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 6: since she was already there, she knew more than I did,

593
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 6: So I kind of gave her this big sister things

594
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 6: sho show me this and show me that, and how

595
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 6: does this work?

596
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: And I don't know these hip hop guys? And oh

597
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: who is that? Because you can you introduce me that

598
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: type of ship? So it was never That's how that

599
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 1: chemistry worked out. Now some of her friends, what's up

600
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: with Joe? It was a different. Let me show you

601
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: a little bro, dude. But it's crazy because y'all used

602
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: to do radio, No, my brothers, not me. I like,

603
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: for ch.

604
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 5: Y'all did Rahap City radio. But I'm like, damn, nobody

605
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 5: ever tapped Joe and Les to do a morning show.

606
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: They that never happened. And I was doing on the radio.

607
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: You know, I was doing radio. I worked with, I

608
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: worked with.

609
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 6: Shout out to Russ Paul, Shout out to Russ Paul,

610
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 6: shout out to Frank Ski.

611
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed.

612
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 6: And then of course I had my own morning show

613
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 6: for a good while. No nobody ever tapped us for

614
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 6: a radio show.

615
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: That's insane. Hold on, I feel like, you know you

616
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: got all of these. You know, you got what you

617
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: call it, the adult contemporary hip hop tea regular. This

618
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: is we.

619
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 5: We all twenty you know, we were all into twenty

620
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: five to fifty four demo for sure. Like that's a

621
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 5: no brainer to me. Yeah, hey, everybody's listening now.

622
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: So why did you leave?

623
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 3: What ended with Rahap City? Why did you leave rap City?

624
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: So Stephen Hill came in, and you know this is

625
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: Stephen Hill. All right, I'll tell you.

626
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 6: I'll tell you both versions, the version from where I

627
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 6: sit now in my fifties. Stephen Hill was a guy

628
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 6: coming into bet who needed to make his thing work.

629
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: He had been hired to make this thing work.

630
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 6: That means people gonna get let go, sets are gonna

631
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 6: get changed, systems are won't get tossed up. I was

632
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 6: new to that though, I didn't know that that's how

633
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 6: that worked. And we were a Beet family up until

634
00:28:53,080 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 6: that point. Now from when it happened. Stephen Hill, me

635
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 6: and Liz in his office and he says, so, uh,

636
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 6: you know, we're gonna go in another direction.

637
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 4: I was like, cool, what's the direction? Which which that way?

638
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: That way? I'm go either way.

639
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: You know I was raised, you know I got a

640
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 4: gay brother.

641
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: I'n go anywhere.

642
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 6: You know.

643
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: Way, I'm open, I'm open, I'm I'm in.

644
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: You know, I'm an ally Which way you need us

645
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: to go?

646
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: I had.

647
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: I had never heard that before.

648
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 6: I had never heard were going in another direction for

649
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 6: a time, I had never heard of that was right exactly.

650
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 6: That was the first time I heard that, and that

651
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 6: meant that you would be you, you would get in

652
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 6: let go. From how I understood the industry at that time,

653
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 6: I thought that was just the most fucked up move,

654
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 6: Like he ain't shake my hand and like take us

655
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 6: to lunch and be like, bro, we love you, but

656
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 6: you know this is what it is.

657
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: And then it was just a cold hat we're going

658
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: in another direction. They don't show that in the doc either.

659
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 5: They show we're moving to New York and then it's

660
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 5: just like yeah, and you know, I decided Steven Hill

661
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 5: was like I decided he needed to be one home

662
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 5: host and I'm like, wait a minute, that can't be it.

663
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 5: You just don't move big less and Joe like that

664
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 5: to be more to the story.

665
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

666
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 6: It was, you know, and and to his credit, man,

667
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 6: each of us sitting here could imagine if we had

668
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 6: to be in exec moving into a network a story,

669
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 6: a very storied, successful network.

670
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna make it.

671
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to come in and do some things

672
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 6: a certain way to make some ship pop off. You

673
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 6: can imagine some people got to get fired, some people

674
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 6: got to get let go. The way that y'all were

675
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 6: doing things is cool, but you're not. That's gonna keep

676
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 6: you playing at this level. If you want me to

677
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 6: get you to this level, it's gonna be like that.

678
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 6: So the Stevens credit man, he came in and did

679
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 6: what he had to do, and look at where I

680
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 6: where BT went from there. It became such an iconic

681
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 6: brand for everybody.

682
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 5: But I was wondering, and I was I was thinking

683
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 5: about the dog watching this last night. Did you and

684
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 5: Les even get a chance to audition? For one O

685
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 5: six because that was the other thing that happened. They

686
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 5: launched one O six and kind of didn't even that

687
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: would make that was.

688
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: The brain of the So so what happened is rap

689
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: City kept going, but the shiny jewel no network rap City.

690
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 6: Uh and and what you'll you'll see more on that

691
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 6: tonight on the part three of the Rap City Dot

692
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 6: last night. We saw it last night in the Rap

693
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 6: City Dot. What I didn't even know about one O

694
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 6: six in Park until I was I got tapped to

695
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 6: do Mad Sports.

696
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: I was living here in the Tri State. I was

697
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: living in Jersey and in Hackensack. Shoutouf the Hackensack.

698
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 6: I lived there, lived lived there, I was shout off

699
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 6: the hacken Sack. And I was coming into the city

700
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 6: all the time. And so uh they changed the New

701
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 6: York New York's and New Hub and all this other stuff,

702
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 6: and I started doing Mad Sports. I started hosting that show.

703
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 6: So I had to come up to the b t

704
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 6: off Is one day and I see AJ. But I

705
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 6: had known AJ from Howard when he he was a

706
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 6: party promoter and a kid, you know, a dude around

707
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 6: town in d C from you know, college scene.

708
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: We would bump heads a lot. So I was like, Oh,

709
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: the fuck you doing here? He's like yo on the

710
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: new show. I was like, what's the show? He's like

711
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: one O six in Park.

712
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 4: I was like boom back, like, let me know if

713
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: you need anything.

714
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: You know, my nigg is good going, good to see you.

715
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: I'll catch you. I'm doing mass sports.

716
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 6: And that was that's how I found out about one

717
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 6: on sixth in Park. We there was no audition for us,

718
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 6: but at the time Les was living in LA. She

719
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 6: had left and gone back to the West Coast. She

720
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 6: was she left New York, was living on the West

721
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 6: Coast and I was living up here, and so that

722
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 6: the DC thing had kind of it was a different story,

723
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 6: but the corporate headquarters were still in DC. All of

724
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 6: the paperwork and everything was getting done, all the money

725
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 6: in D.

726
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 5: It just baffles my mind because when you got too

727
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 5: talented people like yourselves, you would think that y'all would

728
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 5: always be top of the mind.

729
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: For BT, it's the game, the game.

730
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 6: Come on, you've seen that. You've seen both of us,

731
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 6: all of us seen the game is. And let me

732
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 6: say this for the people who are listening. When you

733
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 6: get into this industry, any media, music, entertainment and all

734
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 6: those other things. Remember that you chose this game because

735
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 6: the games got rules that you did not set in place.

736
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 6: You got to learn how to roll with them rules

737
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 6: and keep getting getting ahead or become a bitter old

738
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 6: used to be I could have been type of motherfuckers.

739
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I them is the rules, keep it moving.

740
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 6: I still go out every weekend and go get a

741
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 6: bag telling jokes, you know, so when they making all

742
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 6: these changes and things are going up and down, Okay,

743
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 6: I'll see y'all on Monday, cause I'm in Talliassey this weekend,

744
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 6: or you catch me, you know, I'll be in La

745
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 6: this week and telling joke.

746
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: So for me, a lot of that, a lot of

747
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: that got to roll off my back. And I'm remembering

748
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: it's the game, man, And clearly they cut all this

749
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: out the dot because I know you sat down and

750
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: told loaders, I'm.

751
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 6: Told whatever they asked. I'm sure, I'm sure I did.

752
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 6: I did whatever they asked. It's the documentary to to

753
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 6: take twenty years of a of a show to trunk

754
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 6: cat it into three hours.

755
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: They had a huge tak.

756
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 3: And then they and then then they after you guys,

757
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: was Tiger and.

758
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 6: Then Tiger, So Ticker was on with us, Ticker started

759
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 6: doing news and then he became like it's three hosts,

760
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 6: so it was me, Lez and Tiger, and then Steven

761
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 6: came and was like, Okay, why don't we just keep

762
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 6: Ticker And that's how that worked. Now, Tigger and I

763
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 6: go back to Sunday night hip hop show on WPGC,

764
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 6: and and that's what we Me and Tigger used to.

765
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: Flow every Sunday night.

766
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 6: So so like we would rap, we would we would

767
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 6: each writer written and then do a freestyle live on

768
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 6: the radio every Sunday night in DC. Shout out to

769
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 6: DJ Flex, he was our DJ at the time, and

770
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 6: so that's how I knew Tiger from.

771
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: That's where we you know, became friends. So when he

772
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: became when he came on the show, it was a

773
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: no brainer. It was it was, you know, go ahead,

774
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: do your thing, kill him, knock him dead. And so

775
00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: that's how he got in.

776
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 5: You was always nicer than Ticket too, by the way,

777
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 5: that's gonna throw that out there as a rapper, the ticket,

778
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 5: you know, Swooter Ticket, like cause I was reminded of

779
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 5: that last night too. But even when I was I'm

780
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 5: on the dock, right, thank you sir. Yes, there's raps.

781
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 5: I remember, like I'm sitting there. I'm like, I remember

782
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 5: Joe Klain sitting there with Ray Corn. And that was

783
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 5: the free start I made and maybe be like, God, damn,

784
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 5: Joe Click can really rap?

785
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: So that that rhyme? So that rhyme? Can I talk

786
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: about that for so I put that rhyme out there.

787
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: Now I gotta back up. Uh.

788
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 6: I always was I could always rap, but I didn't

789
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 6: know I could be a rapper, right. I could always

790
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 6: rap though, like since since the first day I heard

791
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 6: rappers are like we get on the bus. I could

792
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 6: always come up with a couple of lines, and then

793
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 6: as I got older, I could rap.

794
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 4: But in d C.

795
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: Being a rapper is not a thing.

796
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 6: In the years I'm growing up and being a deep No,

797
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 6: you got a few rappers shout off the stinky things

798
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 6: out out to you know, a scorpio black Indian rest

799
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 6: in peace. You know there's a there's a bunch of

800
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 6: a couple more than I could could name. But it's

801
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 6: not a popular thing. It's not like it is today,

802
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 6: And so I kind of kept it to myself. Comedy

803
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 6: started paying the bills.

804
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: So I had that.

805
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 6: But now I'm on Rap City and I'm I and

806
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 6: I can't not write like like this phone is full

807
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 6: of rhymes.

808
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: Now, I still producing. I still spit because I have to.

809
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 6: We know when it came up to Hey, Joe such

810
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 6: and such as gonna freestyle, you wanna get in cipher?

811
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: You motherfucking right, I'm about to get in cipher.

812
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: You got that right? And then the producers are like,

813
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: nigg you really, like, yeah, what is the next?

814
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 6: Uh? So I was always waiting this. I was always

815
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 6: writing for that reaction. And I remember that I was

816
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 6: writing for that reaction. While I am a comedian and

817
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 6: I take hip hop very very seriously. I never tried

818
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 6: to be on the show saying.

819
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm a rapper. Let me stay in my place, because

820
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: this is.

821
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 6: To highlight cats who have record deals, cats who are

822
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 6: moving and shaking in this industry that we love so much.

823
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: So let them shine.

824
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 6: But if you're gonna put on a beat, nigga, you

825
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 6: better at least be better than me.

826
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: You better deal.

827
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 6: Yes, Reggie O, say shout out peace, rest in peace

828
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 6: to combat. Jack took me around a couple of times.

829
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 6: Big shout out to DJ Ski Ski was Ski was

830
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 6: ski beats. Ski was giving me, Ski was giving me beats.

831
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 6: Kid taught me how to make beats. There's I guess

832
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 6: y'all haven't heard the story.

833
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: Man. Y'all ain't heard this story. Man, I had the

834
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: hard knock Life beat.

835
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 6: Man. When I was out shopping that deal, trying to

836
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 6: get a deal, Mark the forty five king in his

837
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 6: high house, gave me the hard knock Life beat. I

838
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 6: went home made a record, and I was trying to

839
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 6: get my bread together so I could buy the beat

840
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 6: cause you know that track.

841
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: I was like, he gonna at least need twenty thirty

842
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: racks for this thing. But I wasn't as serious as.

843
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 6: Most people who If I would have known what that

844
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 6: track was, I would have did everything.

845
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: To get that paper together to go in there and

846
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: make that record.

847
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 3: So the story was Kick Capri, I thought, was it

848
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: your song or he was playing the instrumental?

849
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: So Kid was I was on tour, So I'm on

850
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: tour on the deaf comedy jam tool. Okay.

851
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 6: So that's how me and Kid became close, and that's

852
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 6: how he started showing me and his manager was my

853
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 6: manager at the time. Shout out to Christy Clifford and

854
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 6: so Kid was playing it in first, I was like.

855
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: Yo, what the fuck is that?

856
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, that's my man Mark beat blah blah blah.

857
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: And when he said my man Mark, I don't know

858
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: he talking about.

859
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 6: Forty five King, I'm like, oh, I know the fuck

860
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 6: Mark the forty five King is.

861
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: So he said, you know, let's go over Mark house

862
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: and listen to some tracks. He said he got some

863
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: tracks for you.

864
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm going on.

865
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 6: I'm still like a fan, so I'm like, I'm going

866
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 6: over market he gave I was like, can I have

867
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 6: that track too? He gave me a bunch of tracks,

868
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 6: and he gave me that Hard Knocked Life.

869
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: At his house.

870
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 6: Me and Kid Kid took me over Mark's house and

871
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 6: that's how I got my hands on it, went home.

872
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: And wrote a hall knock Life song. My hard Knock Life.

873
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 6: Song was about a kid growing up in a hood

874
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 6: but he's he has disabilities and he's got he really

875
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 6: got a hard knock life, and you know, from that perspective,

876
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 6: coming from the social workshit and everything.

877
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: And then I heard jay Z record.

878
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 6: And I just deleted, Hey, Ski, can you can you

879
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 6: lose those a that's make sure you lose those acts. Please, yes,

880
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 6: lose all of those tapes that that's on, because we don't.

881
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 6: Nobody never needs to hear that shit.

882
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: But you're working on an album now, I heard.

883
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 4: So we'll call it an album.

884
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 6: I just continuously make music. I continue to make records

885
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 6: and his his why. First of all, the movement is

886
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 6: called new music for old niggas. Okay, period, this is

887
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 6: our culture. And one of the things I hear people

888
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 6: cry about is they always taking our culture.

889
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: Oh, they always taking our culture? Well, why we keep

890
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: giving it to them?

891
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 6: If we are whatever the fuck age we are. If

892
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 6: you are hip hop with then nigga, where's your record?

893
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 6: I need to hear what you have to say at fifty?

894
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 6: Can you tell us about credit?

895
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: Nigga?

896
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: Can you tell us about marriage?

897
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 4: What about foreclosures?

898
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: Can you put it in a round high cholesterol.

899
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: High cholester route.

900
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 6: But that's that's sort of the ideal, but not I'm

901
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 6: not rhyming about no, right, I ain't rhyme about Colonna

902
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 6: and shit like that. But there is a stance that

903
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 6: we can take that is a bit more mature. The

904
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 6: first record that I put out is a record called

905
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 6: Gone g O n E. I saw this quote from that.

906
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 6: There was a blog called a blog post, and it

907
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 6: said that that black men are the white men of

908
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 6: straight black men are the white men of the black community.

909
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: Right. I was like, what.

910
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 6: I know, proserable, let me go write this rhyme, let

911
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 6: me go write this rhynd. So I wrote it from

912
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 6: that perspective, and I'm coming from that perspective. I think

913
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 6: that brothers should keep rapping, and brothers, it's cool to

914
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 6: not have to rhyme about the block and your guns.

915
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 6: You fifty, bro, and yeah, y'all, look, let me thank you.

916
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: Let me say this. This is Joe Clais do I

917
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: look at the This is Joe Claire saying it. Bro.

918
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 6: You can spit your asshole, but you rhyming about them

919
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 6: a k's and you got these grades in your bed.

920
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 6: It's just doesn't it doesn't match up. It don't match up.

921
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 6: If you're doing that much crime, my nigga, we you

922
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 6: can't be a rapper fifty if you're doing that much crime.

923
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 6: If you fifty and you got that ay all right here,

924
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 6: you ain't got time to rap about shit you.

925
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: Out, that's right. If you fifty or et forty for

926
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: that thirty. For that matter, young guys who come out

927
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: with all the gun talk makes sense stupid.

928
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask too.

929
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: You know, back then, you know when we seen people

930
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: on TV for some reason, we automatically thought they was rich, right,

931
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: be thought they were getting bread they talk.

932
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: You see them on television. Do you remember how much

933
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 3: you were making back then?

934
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 6: Did anybody see the documentary when deborly said we were

935
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 6: on a shoe string budget.

936
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: You know that little thing at the end of the

937
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: shoe string.

938
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 6: Yes, that's the budget we was not the little plastic

939
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 6: that's the budget we had at Rap City. So that's

940
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 6: why I kept a radio job and comedy on the weekend.

941
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell jokes, the the comedy bag is more

942
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 6: money than the radio on the TV put together on

943
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 6: the weekend. So on the weekend, I'm gonna make this

944
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 6: money up like it's no problem. So uh that Rap City.

945
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 6: When I do Rap Citio, or do television, do radio,

946
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 6: those things are just adding to I'm already getting.

947
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: But I wasn't making. I wasn't becoming wealthy, but I did.

948
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 6: But hold up, let me say this part for any

949
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 6: young person who seeson I fucked off a lot of money.

950
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 6: I was young, getting checks, boy or I was having

951
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 6: a ball with it, and I didn't have the wherewithal

952
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 6: that we all have now. We all gain it over time.

953
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 6: And you know, if I would have been smarter, I

954
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 6: started buying houses earlier, I would have you know, started

955
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 6: doing you know, savings early and all those other things.

956
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 6: But I was making I was making more money than

957
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 6: uh regular job nig I was making more money than

958
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 6: some regular job bosses, than some execs, you know, because

959
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 6: I'm adding up to three and then I'm picking up

960
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 6: speaking engagements here on, maybe a quick endorsement over here.

961
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: Or some some things of that nature.

962
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 5: So I was, you know, it's interesting if you looked

963
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 5: at it from that ReSpectacle And I used to watch Draft.

964
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 4: But not millions.

965
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: Let's go and put that out, not millions, not millions.

966
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 5: But when I used to look at it, I never

967
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 5: thought about the money. I was just like, I just

968
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 5: wanted to be good. I'm like everybody on that show

969
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 5: is good. Joe Claire is good, good, Digg is good.

970
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 5: I want to be good.

971
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: But but now you know, you got to worry about

972
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, yeah, the money comes when you're good.

973
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 6: Money does come with you when you good, but the

974
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 6: deal can be fucked up when you're good.

975
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: So at a lot of times, you know, when you

976
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: are good, that's usually when you get the issue deals right.

977
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: And then sometimes before you can get with your worth,

978
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: they let you go in and they find a new

979
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: yet next young thing. And the reason I asked that

980
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 2: is because you know, growing up the Queen's I would

981
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: see at level all the time, and you would see

982
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: ed Love.

983
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 3: Driving the nice car and the nice chance.

984
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 2: So you always like, wow, that's at level on television,

985
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: even with Tigket like when I when I dj' in

986
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: the basement, probably six seven times.

987
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 3: But you know, back then a change.

988
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: Was on MTV.

989
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: Though was on MTV though I just a tiger, that

990
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: one level, very level is on MTV. But even with Tigger,

991
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: when I go to you would see his change changematically.

992
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: You see the new fresh plans. He's getting it. He

993
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: getting it.

994
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: You know, always wanted to back then, but then it's

995
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: getting it.

996
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: But then I hurt.

997
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 6: But then but then so then for me, I hit

998
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 6: my I hit my twenties and then I realized them

999
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 6: change don't mean ship nothing.

1000
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: This nigga could be at.

1001
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 6: Home broke as that might be all he got is

1002
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 6: the change. So I never if you see, this is

1003
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 6: the only jewelry I rot my wedding ring. My wife

1004
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 6: has taught me in to go replacing my Apple Watch

1005
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 6: with a watch watch like because as a realtor, I'm

1006
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 6: out as a realtor as well, I do real estate.

1007
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 6: When you show up sometimes it's how you show up

1008
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 6: parents appearances, you know, like the chain that change.

1009
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: So for grown people, you walking with that watch, like, oh.

1010
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: This guy's not fucking playing established. I prefer my Apple Watch.

1011
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 6: But because I'm in this meat, let me go in

1012
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 6: and put the to put this other brightling on or

1013
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 6: whatever the fuck she wants me to get and going in.

1014
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: And act like it's it's something else.

1015
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 6: I have a firm handshaking a nice watch, firm handshaking

1016
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 6: a nice watch, and then have your if you got

1017
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 6: your numbers together, you get you own the world.

1018
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 4: You own its real talking black people, black children need

1019
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 4: to know that.

1020
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 5: Another thing too, I was watching the doc Man, I've

1021
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 5: always loved the interview you did with Big.

1022
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: That's that's the iconic. And I knew that was Big.

1023
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I knew that was Big last interview. It

1024
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: was his last television interview. I think I think I

1025
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: think swave might have been his last radio. Yeah, he

1026
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: was going, he went and did the radio. Now, did

1027
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: y'all shoot that in La? Shot in in La?

1028
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: That's what we was laying like in the park, right,

1029
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 3: So we really were on a sound stage.

1030
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 6: And what you can't see is the cameras are facing

1031
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 6: me and him is uh fences and everything behind us.

1032
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 6: We're on a lot of studio lot. Studio lots have

1033
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 6: is a lot is just a bunch of sound stage.

1034
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 6: When you hear people say I'm on a lot today,

1035
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 6: I'm on the paramount a lot of such and such

1036
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 6: slot we want in La has a bunch of lots

1037
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 6: and then the lots have sound stages. Sound stages have

1038
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 6: gates around them. And so we were on one stage

1039
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 6: on one lot and they were shooting the hypnotized video.

1040
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 6: The dance scenes were going on in there. So they

1041
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 6: took a break from that, sat us outside and uh,

1042
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 6: that's how that interview popped off the day before, but

1043
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 6: they didn't get to show in this documentary. The day

1044
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 6: before we were supposed to get that interview, we sat

1045
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 6: in the Santa Mona and Santa Monica in the bay.

1046
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 6: Uh not in the Marinadale ray in the in the

1047
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 6: in the bay, waiting to go out in a little

1048
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 6: dingy right, waiting to guard is chilly.

1049
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: Out there, you know, la get cold.

1050
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 6: It looks sunny, but niggas come we out there the

1051
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 6: boat where Biggie and Puffy all with the helicopters.

1052
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: This is you know.

1053
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 6: I could see it from the hypnotize video. From the

1054
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 6: hypnotized video, I could see it. We're supposed to go

1055
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 6: to the boat. But they got all these explosions and everything.

1056
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 6: So the director is like, too much power techniques.

1057
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: We can't do it. I don't feel safe doing an

1058
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: interview here. Can we do it another time? They say, okay,

1059
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: you'll do the interview tomorrow. So you do an interview

1060
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: on the boat. Was supposed to do the interview. I

1061
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: was supposed to sit on that yacht and do that interview.

1062
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: They say, no, we'll do the interview tomorrow.

1063
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 6: Say boom, no problem. I go to the comedy club.

1064
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 6: It's like cool, no problem. Take me to my hotel.

1065
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 6: Then I go to comedy club, Go tell jokes. Come

1066
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 6: back the next day.

1067
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 5: I always wondered were you concerned for your safety shooting

1068
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 5: out in LA at the time, because it was all

1069
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 5: the East coast, West coast beef and all of that

1070
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 5: just sit.

1071
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 6: Out the broad daylight with big I'm concerned for my

1072
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 6: safety every day.

1073
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 1: So my head is always from us on a swivel.

1074
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: You know, I'm from We made.

1075
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 6: It through the crack earth, So I'm always when I

1076
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 6: came in here, I was in y'all green room, opened

1077
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 6: the door.

1078
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 4: Who is that?

1079
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, they work here. So my head is always

1080
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: on a swivel.

1081
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 6: So I didn't feel any more, uh, concern, concern then

1082
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 6: I normally feel. When I go to l A, I

1083
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 6: just know, like doing rap City. The thing that I

1084
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 6: knew was when you go to somebody hood, when you

1085
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 6: go to a city, you abide by they rules. You

1086
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 6: shut your mouth, don't start, no ship, won't be no ship.

1087
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 6: You come to d C, you have just like you

1088
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 6: come to my city. Shut your mouth, come have a

1089
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 6: good goddamn time.

1090
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: We will have a ball.

1091
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 6: But if you come talking about my city this and

1092
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 6: my city that you oh, these niggas gonna let you

1093
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 6: know what, They're gonna leave you right where you was.

1094
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 6: So nah, I didn't have any extra concerns for my

1095
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 6: safety that day. We had plenty of security, an.

1096
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: I'm a Civilian's funny because I thought when you see

1097
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: the picture as a kid or you know, growing.

1098
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: Up, I always thought it was outside. I always wondered,

1099
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 3: like how it's outside. It's just it looked like a

1100
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: real park like they was in the hood.

1101
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 6: That's it's a it's a it's just a park some

1102
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 6: trees and stuff. But it's a sound stage like right there.

1103
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 6: And so then we do the interview.

1104
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: We we we bust. They stop down production for a

1105
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: second to do this rap city interview. What's my man's name?

1106
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: Was right there with me. Try to joe me out

1107
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: that day? Uh uh Latimer Chris, Yeah, Chris, Chris, Chris,

1108
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: what's up? Chris?

1109
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: Chris had some clothes a bit Chris.

1110
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris. I need club Chris. African American College.

1111
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I need that steak.

1112
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 5: Chris.

1113
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 4: Y'all be y'all be cruyning on my school. Chris.

1114
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 3: Send him some Chris.

1115
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: So, Chris, he was on set.

1116
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 6: He was on set that day advising and doing some

1117
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 6: other things. He was advising and doing some other stuff.

1118
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: And so I meet Chris. We dip up and Chris start.

1119
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 6: You know, some people when they find out you a comedian,

1120
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 6: they want to point out that they a better comedian

1121
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 6: than you.

1122
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: And so Chris starts that ship.

1123
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 6: I'm like, Chris, I gotta do the BIGGI end if

1124
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 6: you I'm trying to get my quest. He's like, I'll

1125
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 6: be with Joe Toy and them nigga and look at

1126
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 6: your shoes. And I was like, Chris, I don't have

1127
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 6: time for this. And then he kept going, and then

1128
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 6: Joe Claire.

1129
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: Came out and Chris was like, okay, go ahead. Joe stopped.

1130
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: I was like, no, don't funk that stop ship.

1131
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 6: No not hein, don't stop now here, come Ben, ain't

1132
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 6: gonna stop now. Nigga unloosing that belt. I could see,

1133
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 6: you know, I'm just going going. Then I sit and

1134
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 6: I do the interview. It's a great day because Chris

1135
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 6: is sitting there laughing with us. Our producers are having

1136
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 6: a great time. Seasoned Junior Mafia right behind us. The

1137
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 6: dancing girls are over there.

1138
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: Of course.

1139
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 6: You know when you see dancing like I'm a holler

1140
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 6: as Shawn. After this is over, you know you're having

1141
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 6: a great day.

1142
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: Then Biggie said, you want to smoke something? That day

1143
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: just got better.

1144
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 6: Yes, I want to smoke something. You Biggie smalls if

1145
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 6: you wanna smoke, And I said, if you gonna. I'm

1146
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 6: not a smoker, but if you're gonna smoke with somebody,

1147
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 6: you're gonna smoke with Biggie. Smoke a couple of smoke,

1148
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 6: a couple of Al's Boom boom boom. They showed that

1149
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 6: in the doc a little bit so because I had

1150
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 6: to and that since it since it got postponed, I

1151
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 6: had to catch a red eye that night because I

1152
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 6: was going out on the Deaf Comedy Jam tour.

1153
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: This was the first night.

1154
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 6: The first night was on that Friday, so I had

1155
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 6: to fly home Wednesday after getting an interview, pack my bags.

1156
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 6: I five red eye, go home, wash clothes, pack my bag,

1157
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 6: blah blah blah blah blah. Get on the tour buses

1158
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 6: coming from Kid and pre Little Jersey coming down to DC,

1159
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 6: pick me up and then we drive to Dallas. We

1160
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 6: do the show in Dallas. The next night we go

1161
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 6: to Houston. Do the show in Houston. Had a ball

1162
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 6: and three thirty four o'clock in the morning, Kid called

1163
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 6: my phone was like, Yo, they say biggie guy shot.

1164
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 6: You know, it's four o'clock in the morning, you've been

1165
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 6: out drinking and shit like whatever, niggas tripping, you know,

1166
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 6: it's just some more hip hop here say bullshit.

1167
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: Then my girl called me. My girlfriend at the time

1168
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: called me. She was like, they say bigger guys shot.

1169
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: I was like, oh the fuck, that's two people long on.

1170
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: Let me turn on headline News. Y'all.

1171
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 6: Remember headline News to every half hour first story, rapper

1172
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 6: Christopher Wallace has been gunned down.

1173
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no fucking what.

1174
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 3: At this point, the interview wasn't out.

1175
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 6: The interviews now, I just it was this is Sunday morning.

1176
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 6: I just was dead Wednesday. This is Sunday morning at

1177
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 6: six in the morning. So nah, no interview out. They

1178
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 6: ain't get time to try. They still in La party.

1179
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: They ain't even get that, none of that.

1180
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 6: And just just those next couple of weeks with that

1181
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 6: days and weeks with Dad, it was just like a blur,

1182
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 6: just like a big blur.

1183
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: And I when I got to reflect on it, I realized.

1184
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 6: I was just numb to this ship because Tupac Hat

1185
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 6: just died and now Biggie got killed.

1186
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: I was like, we cannot be that dumb? Are we?

1187
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: Black folks were really not that stupid? Are we? Is

1188
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: this who we are? Tim has shown that Unfortunately, niggas

1189
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: going nigga niggas going, did you? Did you?

1190
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 6: I hate to say it, man, it's sad. It's sad

1191
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 6: and I and let me put this in context on

1192
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 6: y'all show. I'm a kid who had progressive parents. Both

1193
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 6: parents college educated, both parents have this beautiful ideal of

1194
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 6: what we can be as an African American community.

1195
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 1: What can happen. My pops was an attorney who worked

1196
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: for the Department of Education. My mother became a professor.

1197
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: She's a writer. Her books have gone all over the

1198
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: world and everything else. But my pops had another job

1199
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: at five o'clock. He was the weed man. That's a

1200
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: whole nother story. So he was an attorney, but they

1201
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: had this picture for who we could be.

1202
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 6: At that point, I was like, Nah, Pop, I don't

1203
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 6: think we're gonna make it in our lifetime. I don't

1204
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 6: think I'm gonna see it. I don't think you're gonna

1205
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 6: see it. We're gonna have to individually keep running towards

1206
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 6: the goal, but everybody coming together to run.

1207
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: Towards this goal.

1208
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 6: An nah that means the front runners is gonna have

1209
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 6: to stop, slow down and come back and get the

1210
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 6: niggas who who's not thinking about nothing and pull them

1211
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 6: along and how much time. You know how hard it

1212
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 6: is working in social services. I know how hard it

1213
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 6: is to pull somebody along. It's difficult. It is difficult

1214
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 6: to change your mindset, to change your heart, to change

1215
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 6: the way people see things.

1216
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: It's difficult. That shit, it hit me.

1217
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 6: It was one of those times Charlemagne and Envy where

1218
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 6: I really just I'm very us. I was like, man,

1219
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 6: I man A lot of that, so a lot of

1220
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 6: the like hanging out shit, I just did not want

1221
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 6: to do like it.

1222
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: It's watching us. Was a reflection of how bad we

1223
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: can get.

1224
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 6: I don't necessarily think you a bad guy, but I

1225
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 6: know that if this is in the air, this is

1226
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 6: our culture right now, Right now, our culture is two

1227
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 6: of our biggest have gotten killed, and homicides ain't slowing down.

1228
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: Every weekend. Shootings is still going on every weekend.

1229
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, the records are getting even

1230
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 6: more brazen and the gun talking everything else.

1231
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 4: After we these tragedies.

1232
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 6: So when I looked at my brothers, I was like, nah,

1233
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 6: we got to pull I got to hear what's coming

1234
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 6: out your mouth. I gotta watch your actions to actually

1235
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 6: feel like we back to this because I don't know

1236
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 6: what you're on. And then and I watched cats. I knew,

1237
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 6: you know, I watched man, I watched some of the

1238
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 6: most righteous dudes. Next thing I know, he he come

1239
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 6: with the chain and he gotta get his swag together.

1240
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: You you, you, you've been made since you was nineteen

1241
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: years and ten years old. You've been made. You've been

1242
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: a man. I know your family, I know what you

1243
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: staying on.

1244
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 6: You switching up because you think this is what the

1245
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 6: coach of dog fuck my head up and has colored

1246
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 6: how I see us.

1247
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: Since then to that nothing has changed your mind about it.

1248
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 6: I mean, so that those that happened and everybody can

1249
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 6: do their own narrative of how it impacted them, because

1250
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 6: I was sitting in the middle of it. And remember

1251
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 6: leading up to that, I sat in the middle of

1252
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 6: the East Coast West Coast thing. Every week, every day,

1253
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 6: every rapper's got something to say about the other coast.

1254
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 6: So I'm sitting there watching it I'm like, it was

1255
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 6: cool when the rappers were saying it, but then when

1256
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 6: the A and Ill saying it.

1257
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: And then when the other label guy saying it, and

1258
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: then when you know.

1259
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 6: It's popping up on the news, I was like, this

1260
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 6: is the corner is dumbest, this is fucking stupid. We

1261
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 6: first of all, we both fighting for our rights against

1262
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 6: the old presser in the first place, where you from

1263
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 6: ain't got shit to do it. But then to see

1264
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 6: the mindset, and that's that's how I understood how powerful.

1265
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: That's when the other part was how powerful media became for.

1266
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 6: Me at that time, because I was like watching grown

1267
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 6: motherfuckers that I knew changed their whole shit to be

1268
00:57:58,640 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 6: part of the shit.

1269
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 5: I was like, really, is that what made you start

1270
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 5: saying east coast, west coast, worldwide.

1271
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: I took it straight from the Lost Boys. Okay, shout

1272
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: out to mister Cheeks and everybody else, cause it took Yes,

1273
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: we need we we we we really need to we

1274
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: really need to do this.

1275
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 6: Big shout out to Mac Tin and Fat Joe because

1276
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys remember.

1277
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: They did a movie Thinking and water Up something like.

1278
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 6: That, and then and Fat Joe realized and fat Joe

1279
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 6: used to be coming up to this show like man

1280
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 6: funk that I'm keeping the flame going on this East

1281
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 6: Coast West Coast ship. After that, I see Joe and

1282
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 6: he's like, yeah, nah, I found out them some cool

1283
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 6: nigga tho. He he didn't say nigga to me. You

1284
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 6: know everybody about how Joe the word. I'm just I'm

1285
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 6: being a comedian and he was like, nah, they cool.

1286
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 6: And then as you used to see mac ten and mactin.

1287
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: Like nah they cool, They're super cool.

1288
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 6: And then you found out it was it really wasn't

1289
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 6: the East Coast versus It was the media making it

1290
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 6: and it was Park against Biggie and they used to

1291
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 6: be best friends and now we're looking at really this

1292
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 6: came down to two best friends.

1293
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: Fell out. Now they have other influences, and that just

1294
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: got bigger and bigger and bigger out of control.

1295
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 6: Because if you look at it now, you don't do

1296
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 6: you think twice when you go to l A right,

1297
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 6: you go, you you mind hold up?

1298
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: You mind the streets? You mean you mind the.

1299
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 4: Streets the street?

1300
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, but you don't feel like because you're

1301
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 6: an East Coast dude, it's on and popping on site.

1302
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 3: Now, right, I just see what happens in LA. That's

1303
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: the same way I feel want to go to Chicago.

1304
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: I lived.

1305
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 6: I lived in LA for a decade and you know,

1306
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 6: I never had I never had a problem in Los Angeles.

1307
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 6: I have great friends who are still there. And you know,

1308
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 6: and there's a difference. Let me put this out there.

1309
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: There's a difference between Hollywood and LA. And and my

1310
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: all my dudes was from LA.

1311
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 6: It was from and they started breaking down what hood

1312
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 6: they're from and where. Don't go over there, homie, Hey

1313
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Speaker 6: Joe Claire, look here, homie, you don't want to be.

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Speaker 4: Over there after you get dark.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, I ain't gonna be over there

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Speaker 1: after get dark. And then and and I mind my business,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I had I love LA.

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Speaker 1: I had such a ball. I miss it so much.

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Speaker 1: I miss it so much. But my wife was not

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Speaker 1: having it. Trust me, you ain't even got to say

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Speaker 1: no more. I understand. I overstand what you said.

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Speaker 6: My wife was like, she couldn't do it west side

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Speaker 6: of Baltimore to go to l A. She was like,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna kill everybody out this monment. I was like, Okay, baby,

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Speaker 6: let's go home.

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Speaker 5: You know, we have conversations on the Breakfast Club that

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Speaker 5: have ended up confrontational.

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Speaker 1: Did y'all have any of those on Rap City that

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Speaker 1: y'all y'all? I never, not one time, had any problems

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Speaker 1: with any rappers.

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Speaker 6: The only person who ever, the only person who ever

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01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 6: like like tried to sum me, he sum me one time.

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01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 6: It was my first This is my first live taping.

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01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 6: We were at the Ritz Nightclub. This was Mark Bonds's club.

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01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 6: You know, y'all know my boss s Mark Bonds Club

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01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 6: back in the day. I'm in there and I'm interviewing

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01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 6: Pete Rock and cl Smooth, my heroes. My I know

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01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 6: they album back to backward and forward.

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01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: I know everything.

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Speaker 6: I know every syllable of that motherfucker album. So it's

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01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 6: like five four three two go. I'm like a Sprap

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Speaker 6: City Joe Clay here.

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01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah blah blah BLAHH do.

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Speaker 1: My thing, So what's up with you? Look with you

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01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: in it?

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Speaker 6: And then and then I don't get nothing from cl

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Speaker 6: He's pretty So then the cameras cut off.

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Speaker 1: He's like, yo, son, you mad extra I Sai said,

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01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: what he's like, Yo? You mad extra? What you mean

1350
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: he's like yo over the top, he like mad extra, Yo.

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01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: Bring it down a little bit five four three two.

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01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 4: All ain't Charlee Joe Claire here on't rap city.

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01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: I got bigger. I don't know you. I love c

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01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: L stupid.

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01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 4: I don't know you.

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01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 1: Now you turned back into Craig on Calvin or whatever

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01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: C stand for. And this is my city. Were back

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Speaker 1: in my hometown. We're great friends. Now we end now.

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Speaker 6: I for me, I took it as a vet somebody

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01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 6: who was in the industry showing me what he thought

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01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 6: I should be. No skin off my you know, that's

1362
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 6: what you think I should be already know Joe clar

1363
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 6: And if it's nothing, I know joke.

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01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: I know what Joe Clint do. And I stayed extra

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01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: for five years. I stayed extra five years and.

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Speaker 6: Week now I saw him. I saw him maybe a

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01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 6: year later. All of how's everything good to see? How's

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01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 6: the show going? Everything's groovy?

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01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: I saw him.

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Speaker 6: I want to say about three years ago. He came

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01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 6: through the station when I was at WPGC. It's number love,

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01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 6: number love. But he was the one person out of

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01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 6: all of them that just had that thing. After that,

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01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 6: it was all super cool. And then I can't say who.

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01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 6: The rappers and there's this, I can name about six

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01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 6: or seven of them. I guess they knew I was

1377
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 6: a social worker before whatever. Man they would do, they

1378
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 6: come in here, tell y'all'all that they problem.

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01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: It blew my mind when that shit started happening.

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01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 6: I can't say who, but he's like, you know, when

1382
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 6: you get an image of him, he's hard core, straight

1383
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 6: hard core all day, every day, staying on it like

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01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 6: a man.

1385
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 4: There's no nothing, there's no no fragility, no nothing over here,

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01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 4: cameras cut off.

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01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 6: Man, this nigga talk to me about problems with his wife.

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01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 6: The you know, I all rest, I'm having some I.

1389
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 4: Need a mental day, Joe, And I was like, what

1390
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 4: the is going.

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01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 6: For him?

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01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: He's fine, he's fine. I see him all the time.

1393
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: He's fine, he's fine.

1394
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 4: But it was just like, wow that, you know.

1395
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 6: These these people that have these personas are real ass

1396
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 6: people who are going through a lot of ship in

1397
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 6: their life.

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01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that's that, you know.

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01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: So thanks, so let me put that out there. I

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01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: appreciate y'all.

1401
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 3: This conversation.

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01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 6: Oh man, and we just ship. Let me get there's

1403
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 6: a few things I like to get on my chest.

1404
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 6: Make sure you follow. Make sure you follow me at

1405
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 6: Joe Claire on all social media platforms.

1406
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: If you are in the d m V, watch.

1407
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 6: Me every day at three o'clock on Fox five. It's

1408
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 6: called the d m V Zone. I am on news

1409
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 6: every day and it's you'll see it when you tune in.

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01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 6: And other than that, just follow your boy, man, oh it,

1411
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 6: catch me if I all right. A lot of people

1412
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 6: did not know I was a comedian first, So please

1413
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 6: if I come to your town, make sure you come

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01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 6: see my show.

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01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: Cause, nigga, I'm boy, I'm Alaric. When your next shows, shit, uh,

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01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: let me see. We just so, we just finished the

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01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: big comedy festival in the d n V.

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01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 6: Myself, Donelle, your boy, me Doneille Rollins, Pierre, Tony Woods,

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01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 6: Tommy Davison and Red Grant killed it with ivon Orgy

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Speaker 6: as our host.

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01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: She's from around the way as well.

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Speaker 6: I do my own shows monthly at a place at

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Speaker 6: a spot called Bowie in Bowie, Maryland. So I don't

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01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 6: know if you guys know about Bowie, Maryland. Bowie Maryland

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Speaker 6: is the so Prince George's County storied history as the

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Speaker 6: best Black blessed place for black folks meeting and household income,

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01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 6: and Bowie is the highest median household.

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01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: Income in Prince George's county.

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Speaker 6: So we do a comedy show in Bowie, very uh

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01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 6: intelligent well to do black crap. So I love going

1431
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 6: in there. We got heavy hitters coming through in every month.

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01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 6: So just you can just check the schedule there and

1433
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 6: then let me see. I'll be at the I'll be

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Speaker 6: at Atlanta dot com.

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Speaker 4: That just go thank you.

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01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 6: I'm thank you there and then and then back in

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01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 6: d C and Baltimore. I got shows coming up and

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01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 6: two all the time. I just am not with the

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Speaker 6: big Guys tour.

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01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm in this.

1441
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 6: I'm still on Chitlin circuit. I'm still on Hennessy and Chicken.

1442
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 6: Certainly you come see me. It's gonna be a smaller

1443
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 6: venue blah blah blah. And then every now and again

1444
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 6: you get to see me with the big guy on

1445
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 6: a bigger stage. Shout out to some more for put

1446
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 6: me on tour. This past he had some more put

1447
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 6: me on tour, and I got to go back on

1448
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 6: the big stages because I don't live in New York,

1449
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 6: I don't live in l A. I'm in DC operating

1450
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 6: by myself, so I go get it. But I'm out

1451
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 6: telling jokes every weekend.

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01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: There you have it.

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 3: Well, it's Joe Claar, ladies, and make sure you watch

1454
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 3: the Rap City Dot Ye. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,

1455
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club