1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: and Book podcast Network. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I am so excited 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: today because we have one of our great GOP candidates 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: for President of the United States here with me. I 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: actually met this man while I was campaigning, and I 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: have to say he is kind, genuine, and he absolutely 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: loves this country. I'm thrilled to welcome North Dakota Governor 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: Doug Bergham on the podcast today. 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But I think that you're 40 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: new to a lot of people around the country. So 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: if you can just kind of give your background so 42 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: people know why did this man from North Dakota decide 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: that he was going to do this? Because I think people, 44 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: even when you were running for governor, said that, and 45 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 2: you showed them all that you were going to actually win. 46 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: You came from behind. 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: So tell us why you decided to do this, and 48 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: a little bit about who you are. 49 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, tutor. Yes, No, I grew up in 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: a small town in North Dakoka, the little farming community, 51 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: three hundred people, gravel streets, not a computer. Incredible, great 52 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: life growing up there with two amazing parents, all the values, 53 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: the American values you'd want to have about hard work 54 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: and perseverance and self reliance and responsibility. And of course 55 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: I got introduced to what politics early. My mom was 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: actually the Republican National Committee woman from part to go 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: to when I was a kid, and so I was 58 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: familiar with that public service. My dad was always giving back. 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: My dad was a World War Two but just before 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: they were going to get married out Pearl Harbor happened. 61 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: He went down the road to Castleton, to the town 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: fifteen miles away, signed up for the Navy, and because 63 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: he had a college degree from North Akota State, they 64 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: made him an officer. And as fast as they were 65 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: building destroyers, they were creating officers. And so he married mom, 66 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: and then I got put on a boat built in Remington, Washington, 67 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: and was off to the war in the Pacific and 68 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: didn't see her until the end of the war. And 69 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: amazingly he lived through that because of course the destroyers 70 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: were protecting the aircraft carriers. We took massive casualties as 71 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: a nation. Half of the the MIAs and the history 72 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: of the United States or World War two Aavy sailors 73 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: who ships went down never recovered. There's one hundred and 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: fifty one one hundred and fifty one destroyers at Okinawa 75 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: and one hundred and twenty nine were hit by Kamakazi. 76 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: So it's only by the grace of God that I'm 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: even here. But he made it through all that, got 78 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: back to Arthur after, you know, part of the Greatest generation, 79 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: and started raising a family. And then when I was 80 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: a freshman in high school, my dad passed away and 81 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: my mom, you know, widow with three kids, went back 82 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: to work. I got see firsthand what economic insecurity looks 83 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: like and a mom, you know, working to make sure 84 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: that she can put food on the table and pay 85 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: the mortgage. And so I got to see that. And 86 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: then in my mid twenties, jumped ahead to that. I 87 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: was at one hundred and sixty acres of farm Growl 88 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: and I got from my dad. I'd seen an Apple 89 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: to computer as part of the work I was doing 90 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: and working in Chicago actually at the time, and because 91 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: all the jobs kids are leaving North Dakota, there was 92 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: no economic future. Saw an apple to a computer and 93 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that's going to change the world. So 94 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: I literally took sixty acres I got from my dad 95 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: bet the farm and that became the seat Capital Prottal 96 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: company called Great Playing Software, and with that, you know 97 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: that thing that was eighteen years later. We were an 98 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: overnight success or a week from you know, ten kids 99 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: was starting out. We grew to two thousand. We had 100 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: a great public offering. We had people working for us 101 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: around the world. Twelve hundred team members in Fargo, four 102 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: hundred rest in North America for under the rest of 103 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: the world. I got a chance to travel the world, 104 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: see the world and understand, you know, who we're competing with, 105 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: countries like China. I saw the nineteen eighty nine I 106 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: was a kid, I you know, with a software company. 107 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: My first trip to China as a business person, and 108 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 1: there was our software for sale and the street market 109 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: for a bucket discs totally pirating our stuffs. So, I mean, 110 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: so I've known they've been a little to everyone. 111 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: It's like to compete with. 112 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: China, absolutely, I mean that was thirty four years ago. 113 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: They've been stealing every piece of software I've been involved 114 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: with since then. But as you said, anyway, then you 115 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: fast forward. So I had this amazing opportunity to work 116 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: with creating all kinds of value for shareholders, you know, 117 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: creating all kinds of jobs, and you know, created more 118 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: jobs than anybody else on the debate stage, making payroll 119 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: since my twenties, longer than anybody else on the stage. 120 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: And when I was growing up, working on the farm, 121 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: the ranch, working at the local grain elevator, even worked 122 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: as a chimney sweep to pay my way through undergrad 123 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: all of those were jobs we took a shower at 124 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: the end of the day. I mean, I understand working 125 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: Americans are going through right now with this crushing Biden inflation. 126 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: But then in twenty sixteen, with the we had an 127 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: open seat for governor in North Dakota, and like you, 128 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: when you were jumping in, you said, hey, this matters 129 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: public service matters, leadership matters, and jumped into a race 130 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: and everybody said, well, you can't win. Nobody's heard of you. 131 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: You've never run for office before. And actually we were 132 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: down fifty nine points in the first poll and we 133 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: only had less than six months to the primary. We 134 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: jumped in the race anyway, and we ended up winning 135 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: that primary by twenty points. We ended up winning the 136 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: general election in twenty sixteen as an outsider coming in, 137 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: and we won in twenty twenty a reelect by over 138 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: forty points each time, so we won by the largest 139 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: bargs of any gubernatorial candidates in the country both those years. 140 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: Wow, that's amazing. So you said something key there. 141 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: You said, you've created more jobs than anyone else on 142 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: that debate stage that is running for president right now. 143 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: Those folks are folks that have many of them have 144 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: served the country, whether they've served in public service, whether 145 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: they've served militarily and then in public service. But there 146 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: is a difference between someone who's served in public service 147 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: and someone who has created a business. And so when 148 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: you talk about that, I think that's something that maybe 149 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: the American public doesn't think about. If you've spent your 150 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: life as a politician. You don't necessarily know what businesses 151 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: need to grow. But you have created a business from scratch, 152 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: grown it, like you said, created many jobs. 153 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: So how do you take that to Washington, d C. 154 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: What does that mean to the American people because they 155 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: see the jobs report. We just had one that was 156 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: a little better than expected, but certainly folks are concerned 157 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: about the economy and businesses coming to the United States. 158 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: See it as a small business owner, I've seen it 159 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: as someone who is growing rapidly growing business. I've had 160 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: an opportunity to lead you know, global global software companies. 161 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: And then when I jumped in his governor and get 162 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: a front row seat on how the Biden administration and 163 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: the red tape is choking every American and how the 164 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: federal government overreaches the states. Creded the federal government, not 165 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: the other way around. And there's so many things that 166 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: the government does that is actually redundant with what the 167 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: states do. We've got to focus on the tenth of menal, 168 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: We've got to return the power to the states, as 169 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: it says common over to the people. Those are the 170 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: ones that have these powers and the federal government. And 171 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: right now, as a business person who's had the job 172 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: creation and the make it payroll experience and the work experience, 173 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: but then translating that as a governor to what we've 174 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: gone in North Dakota. There's over twenty initiatives that the 175 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: Biden administration right now is trying to jam down on Americans. 176 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 1: And whether it's US Fish and Wildlife, the Bureau of 177 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: Land Management, the EPA, US go on and on and on, 178 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: and these are like little changes. These are like eight 179 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: hundred page documents they send out through review and you 180 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: read them and it's like a complete takeover of the 181 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: federal state trying to jam down or if they will say, 182 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: take something like environmental worth. The code is, ninety percent 183 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: of our land is owned by farmers and ranchers, most 184 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: of them are fourth and now fifth generation families. Nobody 185 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: cares more about the soil health, the air of a 186 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: water quality, what's going on than the people that live 187 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: on that land that want to do it for generations. 188 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: And then you've got some bureaucrat in Washington who's probably 189 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: never been to our state or any of the other states, 190 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: creating a bunch of rules which are completely nonsensical because 191 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: they might not they don't make sense maybe for any 192 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: of it, but certainly in a nation that's got as 193 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: much geographic diversity and as we do as this country, 194 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: in as much sort of environmental diversiti as we have, 195 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: you cannot create one size fits all. You cross this 196 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: stuff and most of the stuff there, we're already handling 197 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: it at the states, and we're doing a great job. 198 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: So one of the ways to reduce the just spending 199 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: at the federal government is stop the redundancy and let 200 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: the states do their job. 201 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: And that's something that Donald Trump was ding don when 202 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 2: he became president. He reduced regulations. The environmentalists came out 203 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: and said, this is catastrophic. What you're saying is that 204 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: these are redundant, but also they don't make sense. For 205 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: the environmentalists out there, they are going, oh gosh, if 206 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: this guy gets elected, he's going to get rid of 207 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: all regulation and the country is going to be a 208 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: disaster and we're going to have all kinds of climate problems. 209 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 3: Explain a little bit. 210 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: Give us an example of something that you've seen that 211 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, we see this all the 212 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: time in Michigan, and we have high energy costs and 213 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: now we're going to all of these climate plans and 214 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 2: electric vehicles and all of that, But this is happening 215 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: to small businesses, This is happening to farmers. Give an 216 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: example of what you're talking about from the federal level 217 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: that you can change at and let the states handle. 218 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: Well, Tudor what you're talking about emissions affecting everybody. I mean, Art, 219 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: you can't separate the economy from energy policy from national 220 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: security in the bide and the economy with the high 221 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: interest rates, the inflation absolutely on hundred degrees in the 222 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: wrong direction. One of the things that's driving that someone 223 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: that's driving is their energy policies, which I think must 224 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: have been written by China, because you can't take a 225 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: America where we are a energy powerhouse and say we're 226 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: going to try to kill the US energy industry and 227 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: then we're going to replace it by going to all 228 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: evs and we're going to buy all of our batteries 229 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: from China, who controls eighty five percent of the rare 230 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: earth minerals. I mean, this makes no sense at any level, 231 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: not from a strategic sense, from a global stability sense, 232 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: not from an economic sense, and it certainly doesn't make 233 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: any sense from an environmental sense, because examples like you 234 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: can't get a pipeline built in this country from the Permian, 235 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: which is you know, Texas, New Mexico to the west coast, 236 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: and we're offloading oil and gas in Long Beach every 237 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: day to power you know, a state that's got more 238 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: internal combustion cars than anyone else. If we could be 239 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: using us energy, it would be cleaner. In New Hampshire, 240 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: forty one percent of the volmes are still being heated 241 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: by heating well. At the time of the Russian invasion 242 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: of Ukraine, we were offloading four hundred thousand barrels of 243 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: oil and dale equivalent into the northeastern part of our 244 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: United States. Because between the Biden administration and the state 245 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: of New York, you can't get pipeline clean natural gas 246 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania up into New England. So we talk about 247 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: our energy straight. But because if you're blocking every pipeline 248 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: that's attempted in this country, you're actually making the global 249 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: the global environment less healthy and less clean. 250 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: We certainly have that in the state of Michigan. Right now, 251 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: we have the Attorney General trying to shut down the 252 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: pipeline that goes from Canada through Michigan. That's all of 253 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 2: the propane that heats the homes in the Upper Peninsula 254 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: of Michigan. And so this is definitely a a constant 255 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 2: debate with the Democrats. They're trying to shut down our pipelines, 256 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: and to shut down our pipelines, Let's be honest, it 257 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 2: means putting trucks on the road. You're not eliminating this product. 258 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: You're moving it in a different way, and in a 259 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: less safe way, and in a more environmentally damaging way. 260 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter because the talking points on the 261 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: left seem to win out. Let's take a quick commercial break. 262 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon podcast. Let's look at, 263 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: for example, Virginia. Right now, we still hear a lot 264 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: on parents' rights. We're hearing a lot across the country 265 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: on parents' rights. That was a winning message obviously for 266 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: Glenn Youngkin in twenty twenty. That is something that people 267 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: are concerned about. But now we're just we're getting back 268 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: into the school year. It's the fall. We're seeing suddenly 269 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: in colleges this collegiate swimming women are once again competing 270 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 2: with men. I mean, we had women just last week 271 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: out there saying we are Now it's bad enough that 272 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: we go to meets and we're we're competing amongst women, 273 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: but now we're competing against our own teammate because we 274 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: have a man on the team. What do you say 275 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: to universities, especially universities that are getting federal funding, that 276 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: are putting men on the women's swimming team. 277 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: We just have to protect women's sports, that's the bottom line. 278 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: And we need women competing. It's women, men competing, it's men. 279 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's all you have to say. And we've 280 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: done that in North Kota. We've protected women's sports in 281 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: North Dakota. And this is something that it's again it's 282 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: patently unfair and we should It just needs to be 283 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: needs to be stopped. 284 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: So there's been some complaints from folks in North Dakota 285 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: about school choice because you did have the opportunity to 286 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: sign a school choice build. That's something that we see 287 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: those of us who are on that side fighting for it. 288 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: We see that as critical for folks in this nation, 289 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: especially when we see these reports that are just coming 290 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: out of Baltimore that are saying they have no reading 291 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: or math proficiency for these we want these kids to 292 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: have options if you become president of the United States. 293 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: What is your viewpoint on this since you did veto 294 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: this bill in North Dakota. 295 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: Well, I'm a huge supporter of school choice, tutor. I 296 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: asked for this bill, I pushed for the bill, tried 297 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: to drive it to the legislature, but at the end 298 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: of the day, by the time it got down, by 299 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: the time I got to my desk, it had been 300 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: sold watered down. We spent two billion dollars on K 301 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: twelve in North Dakota, and this was a ten billion 302 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: dollar bill. I mean ten billion dollars. That would have 303 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: just been a small tuition subsidy for existing people going 304 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: to parochial schools. It was not a school choice bill. 305 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: School choice means that every student in every part of 306 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: the state, every geography, should have a choice, and this 307 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: didn't come close to that. And so I just basically said, look, 308 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: you can't, can't. Don't give it the bill a name 309 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: and then call it school choice, and it's actually just 310 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: subsidizing a portion of the populace fall you're like five 311 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: percent of the students. I mean, that didn't make any sense. 312 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: But school choice, it's absolutely necessary. What we have done 313 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: in North Dakota, and what we need to do nationally, 314 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: you've got to break the back of the teachers unions. 315 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: And we've also one way to do that is to 316 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: just get the red tape off of the schools. We've 317 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: passed fifty one red tape reduction bills this last year. 318 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: And relative to schools, we've said, look if team based, 319 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: hands on, real world learning is one of the ways 320 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: that the students actually learn. Instead of having schools exclude 321 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: organizations like four AH, like FFA, you know, like boy 322 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: Scouts and say, hey, they can't even meet on our property, 323 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: we said, no, actually, they should be able to meet 324 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: and they should get high school credit for it, because 325 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: the certificate programs, whether it's four H Achievement or a 326 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: Merit badge, those are things where kids are learning real skills. 327 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: And then we've driven a ton of money into career 328 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: technical education because in North Dakota we have a thing 329 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: called Choice Ready, one of the only states in the 330 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: nation doing this, which is when a student is a 331 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: senior in high school, they've got to be ready to be, 332 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, choose the military effacts of their career. We 333 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: had a lot of kids in their seniors in high 334 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: schoo that can't qualify for military physically or emotionally or academically. 335 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: And then we've also want to have people have a 336 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: choice about career and technical education, building career academies around 337 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: our state. And this whole idea that was went on 338 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: for decades, which is the only purpose for high schools 339 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: to get kids ready for college. Then we said in 340 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 1: the college they get indoctrinated, and then we you know, 341 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: and then Biden wants to forgive all their student loans. 342 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not creating the workforce we need for 343 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: the twenty first century. And so our education system has 344 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: to match so that when students come out of that system, 345 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: they've actually got economic economic opportunity, not just something they 346 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: can hang on the wall and then another slip of 347 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: paper that's a pile of student debt. 348 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: Can you talk about the unions? The unions are certainly 349 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 2: an issue when it comes to education. They have a 350 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: lot of power. We saw them have a lot of 351 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: power through COVID. But you're also talking about you're one 352 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: of the candidates that has said that you would get 353 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: rid of the US Department of ED. Now, obviously this 354 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 2: is generally a state's issue for most of us. We 355 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: get funding for our schools through the state. This is 356 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: a taxpayer. State by state. Education is handled on the 357 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: state level for the most part. But what does it 358 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 2: look like to get rid of that department? How do 359 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: you go about doing that? 360 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: Well, there's this would be a this is a step 361 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: and I think Ronald Reigho was actually the first one 362 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: to call for this, I think eighty so maybe after 363 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: forty some years Republicans could actually get get it done 364 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: of getting rid of the federal Department of Education. It's 365 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: not part of the constitution, it's not part of the 366 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: federal charter, and you've got to Bizarrely, it's a small agency, 367 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: call it. Four thousand people that work there, so this 368 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: isn't a big federal workforce. But those folks, you know, 369 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: go to work for a state, you know, go to 370 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: work back in the private sector and take the sixty 371 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: seventy billion dollars that has passed through grants. When the 372 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: federal government starts shoving money, they attach all kinds of 373 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: all kinds of ideological attached to it. If you just 374 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: do block grants in the state and let them do it, 375 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: and or to say hey, look, it's got to be 376 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: tied to you know, career and chechnical education has got 377 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: to be right towards you know, doing something at K 378 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: twelve that helps get the college college debt down, I 379 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: mean not relieving debt, but actually getting getting people in 380 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: the careers where they don't have to go into college debt. 381 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: I mean, have education at K twelve well, will actually 382 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: set people up for success. So there's a bunch of 383 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: ways that you could manage that and driving it through, 384 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: but you've got to get rid of all the red 385 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: tape that goes with those dollars. Is what's you know, 386 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: driving our education system in the wrong direction. So that's 387 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: relatively easy, but if you want to reduce the size 388 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: of the federal government. What I've learned as a business 389 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: guy who came from the tech side of things was 390 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 1: in software for thirty years when we were in the 391 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: most competitive segment of any business in America. Our products 392 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: had to be better, paster, and cheaper tomorrow than today. 393 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: There is no tariffs, there is no protectionism, there is 394 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: no subsidies, there is no government regulations. You just had. 395 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: It was raw market competition. You had to be better 396 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: or you went out of business, and that pressure never 397 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: falls on the federal government or a state government. So 398 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: one thing I've learned is inside of every job in 399 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: every agency, there's ten to twenty percent of the work 400 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: that that that government employee is required to do. And 401 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that went to work 402 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: in government because they did have a harder service. These 403 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: are not bad people, they've got bad job design and 404 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: ten to twenty percent of what they're doing is some 405 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: mind numbing, soul sucking work that they themselves know does 406 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: not help a single citizen. In North Dakota, we say 407 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: we got to treat the tax payers like the customers 408 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: they are. They're the ones that are paying for these services. 409 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: We've got to deliver services to them in a way 410 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: that work, in the cheapest and most effective way we can. 411 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: And I think you could take two hundred and four 412 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: hundred thousand jobs out of the federal government and keep 413 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: running the trains on time, because in the first four 414 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: months in North Dakota we cut twenty seven percent out 415 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: of our budget and didn't miss a beat on delivering services. 416 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: There's that much. There's that much that goes on every 417 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: single day. And when we've got ten million jobs open 418 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: in America, having some you know, federal employees back in 419 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: the private sector would also help the con well. 420 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: One of the other things that parents are worried about 421 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: today in the school systems is drugs. I mean, in 422 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: Michigan right now, there is a bill floating out there 423 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 2: that the Democrats are trying to pass to say it's 424 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: okay for kids to bring marijuana in the form of 425 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: gummies if they've been prescribed that to the high school. 426 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: We just had a mom on a few days ago 427 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 2: who said her son marijuana was the gateway drug for 428 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: her son, that that ended up being a fentanyl poisoning 429 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: and she lost him at the age of twenty five. 430 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: So we're seeing more and more that kids are being 431 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: exposed to these drugs. What is your answer federally on marijuana. 432 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: A lot of parents say that this is the gateway. 433 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 2: They want it to be stopped. Federally, it's still illegal, 434 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: but you have state it's like mine Michigan pushing to say, Hey, 435 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 2: these guys, these these dealers can't use a bank, they 436 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: can't legally operate. 437 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 3: You've got to help us get this pass. 438 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: What are you going to do if people come to 439 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: you and say they want federally marijuana legalized. 440 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: Well, I think again, this is a state by state 441 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: issue and it's being being worked out. But I mean 442 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: the drug issue that we have right now is just 443 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: look at the statistics. I mean, you know, Nixon declared 444 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: a war on drugs. If you look at the last 445 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: couple of years under Biden, Fetanahl won that war. Fetnah's 446 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: winning it right now. We've taken we've got more casualties 447 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: since Biden's been in office, mass casualties in America from 448 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: overdoses than five Vietnams worth the casualties. I mean, one 449 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: hundred and seven thousand is first year, one hundred and 450 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: ten thousand a second year. We're on track to be 451 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: at least that high again this year. And so when 452 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about it, it's incomprehensible to think about what 453 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: that means when you're talking about numbers like, you know, 454 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: higher than two hundred and sixty thousand overdose tests. But 455 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: if you think about it on just a day rate, 456 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: it's it's like we're losing three three we are losing 457 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: three hundred people a day. And like this mom that 458 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: you talk to her son's daughters aces afews that are 459 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, taking something maybe for the first time, but 460 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: it's spent in all waste. And this is you know, 461 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: if Tudor, if we had a plane go down tomorrow 462 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: in America with three hundred people, and then we had 463 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: another one that would go down the next day, and 464 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: another one go down the next day. By the third 465 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: day in a row of having three hundred people die 466 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: in plane crashes, every American would know about it. Every 467 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: American would be up in arms, every American would be 468 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: calling for action. Everybody American would be saying, this has 469 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 1: got to stop because you've got innocent people that are 470 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: dying and that's happening every day with fentanyl. And the 471 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: Biden administration allows us to have an open border or 472 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: the sventanyl and this is you know, coming from China 473 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: through Mexicle's. 474 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: Recently changed that though now they're suddenly going to build 475 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: the wall. They're going to and you have to remember 476 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: right now, you're a year out from an election. So 477 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: if he suddenly starts saying, look, I'm the guy that 478 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 2: is putting up the wall, I'm protecting people, I'm going 479 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: to take care of this country. I'm going to stop 480 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 2: this influx of migrants into New York City, can can you, 481 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: as president create a massive national security issue and then 482 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: at the last minute fix it or try to fix 483 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 2: it and make the American people believe that you are 484 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: the guy that's actually going to take care of them. 485 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: It's a you're completely right to it. I mean, it's 486 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: like basically saying, we've got an arsenal who's been throwing 487 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: gas on a fire for two and a half years, 488 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: and suddenly he's going to be the fire chief and 489 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: come and put it out. I mean, that makes no sense. 490 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: It's actually it's actually comical to me. And the only 491 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: reason I mean because when we had Governor Doucy in Arizona, 492 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: Governor Abbott in Texas, you know, streaming about this, and 493 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: other Republican governors like myself, we've been sending troops down order. 494 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: We've had we've had North Cota National Guard flying night 495 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: missions in Lakota, helicopter from Sandy, of course, trying to 496 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: stop these grand transnational criminal organizations. I've been to the 497 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: border more than Joe Biden asked, and it's a down there. 498 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: Just in August, the border is completely wide open. It's 499 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: the equivalent of all the people in May, New Hampshire, 500 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: Vermont Rhode Island, Joe Biden's home state of Delaware, throw 501 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: in Montana. That's the number of people that have been processed, 502 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, into our country using paper not computers. Because 503 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: we pulled the border patrol off, they don't get to 504 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: do law enforcement. They're literally doing paperwork intents, you know, 505 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: sometimes at the cost. In one segment I was in, 506 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: we were burning twenty million a month, not on law enforcement, 507 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: on processing. And then they have another thing that on 508 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: their metric they track called known getaways. Known getaways is 509 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: now a million and a half. So there's a million 510 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: and a half more on top of the number that 511 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: I just gave you, And then now would because you've 512 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: got a liberal mayor in New York that's being overwhelmed 513 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: that now the Democrats go, oh gee, we've got an 514 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: order problem. I mean, talk about this isn't too little, 515 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: too late. And these aren't just people coming from from 516 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: Latin America coming in our country. The segment that I 517 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: was getting briefed on down in the Texas border, we 518 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: had people from every country that's on the terrorist wash 519 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: list and come across. Some of them are abusing, you know, 520 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: even things like the family separation. They come across with 521 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: a minor with them. They're on the terrorists watch list, 522 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: and they go, oh, I can't be separated because I'm 523 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: with a family. So it's an actual joke, but it's 524 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: a bad joke on the American people because the hard 525 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: that's happening now and may happen in the future from 526 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: having this open border policy. It's going to be I'm 527 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: sure there'll be tragedies down the road because of this. 528 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 3: Well on there have been. 529 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: I mean, we already have several Angel families that can 530 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: tell you that their lives have been permanently changed for 531 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: the worst because of this open border. 532 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: But it also is allowing these folks to. 533 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: Come in and monitor whether they are a terrorist organization 534 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: or they are folks coming over. 535 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: From China, who has made it clear. 536 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 2: The Chinese government has made it clear that they want 537 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: to be the leader of the world. Right now, Joe 538 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: Biden is the leader of the free world. The question 539 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 2: is how much longer is it free. China has the 540 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 2: largest navy in the entire world. They are now watching 541 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: us from Cuba, but they're also buying up farmland in 542 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: the United States. 543 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 3: They just bought up land in. 544 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 2: The middle of Michigan, not too far down the road 545 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: from one of our military bases that is actually out 546 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: there training Taiwanese soldiers to fight against the Chinese. And 547 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: yet we moved the Chinese right down the street from 548 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 2: this base. How is this happening? What is your answer 549 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: to dealing with China? As you see them talking to Russia, 550 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: as you see them talking to Iran in North Korea, 551 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: you have the axis of evil forming together right there 552 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: in outside of the United States. If those four countries 553 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: are allies suddenly and they come together against the United States, 554 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 2: how do you handle that as president of the United States. 555 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: Well, the number one tool that we have to use 556 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: that we're not using is energy. And you're absolutely right, 557 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Tutor, I mean, you've got North Korea just 558 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: met with pot They're sending arms. We're in a cold 559 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: war with China, We're in a proxy war with Russia. 560 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: We're edging our way towards World War three. We've got 561 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 1: an administration that doesn't need big knowledge that we're in 562 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: a cold war. And then we've got Iran, which is 563 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: also supplying drones to Russia, so they're already actively in 564 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: and has been described in access of evil they're already 565 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: doing that. And then with the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, 566 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: but not sending the Yarbs to Eastern Europe ahead of 567 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: the invasion, ahead of the Russian invasion, not actually providing 568 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: the deterrence work. I mean, when someone in Bays, that's 569 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: an example of when deterrence were in place. So Joe 570 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: Biden failed on the deterrence, he failed on Afghanistan, and 571 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: then now they failed on sanctions because when they you 572 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: don't get the whole world to buy into the sanctions. 573 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: Guess what Russian oil is being sold to China at 574 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: a discount. China imports ten million barrels of oil a day. 575 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: They're the most dependent nation in the world on external 576 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: energy sources. And you can't build a pipeline here, but 577 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: Russia's building a pipeline between Russia and China. And that's 578 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: why you mentioned the world's largest navy. They've got the 579 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: world's largest navy because they're trying to protect their seat 580 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: lanthes for all the oil and energy that they import. 581 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: And then this whole you know, crazy thing about that 582 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: somehow we're going to go to ed and save the world. 583 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: China is building a coal plant every week, and when 584 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, The Washington Post last week wrote an article 585 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: about how amazing China was because they were adopting edes 586 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: faster than us. Well, they're adopting eb's because they're going 587 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: to power them by coal. They're going to create coal 588 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: fired electricity with nineteen seventies technology. We could be we 589 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: could be exporting the kind of technology we have in 590 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: North Dakota where we've got clean coal, where we take 591 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: the CO two even out of coal in North Dakota. 592 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: But that's not what they're building. So they're they're they're powering, 593 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: and they're doing that because they don't even China doesn't 594 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: want to dependent on Russia, but Russia is their discout 595 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: gas station for now. But they're trying to free themselves 596 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: from Russia by building the world's largest coal fleet and 597 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: going all ev it's it's the whole thing is absolutely 598 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: insane right now because our energy policies are destabilizing the world, 599 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: loving us towards World War three, empowering dictators, and they're 600 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: making the environment less clean globe elite than we were. 601 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: If you cared about the environment, you would want every 602 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: ounce of energy created in the United States, and instead 603 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: We've had four members the Biden administration go meet with 604 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: China this year. They're being with China. None of them 605 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: brought up US energy policy. The one club that we 606 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: have when when we're an energy powerhouse and their energy dependent, 607 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: we're a food powerhouse. We have food security. China has 608 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: to import food to feed their one point four billion people. 609 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: And then and then you know, they're talking to them 610 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: about CO two admissions, which theirs are going up. They're 611 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: the world's largest polluter. We're the one that's actually shown 612 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: how to bring it down. And then we're not talking 613 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: about the things that we could actually be using in 614 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: a negotiation. But if you're in business, and you come 615 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: from business and you know how to negotiate, and Biden 616 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: spent his entire life in Washington, DC, you know this 617 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: is it's a failed strategy on how to actually accomplish this. 618 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 619 00:30:53,400 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: a Tutor Dixon podcast. You're talking about negotiating. Your time 620 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: talking and negotiating in many cases is also saying hey, 621 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: we're going to withhold this unless you do this. I mean, 622 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: you can be a tough negotiator. That last question I 623 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: have for you is that's been President Trump's mantra. Donald 624 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: Trump has come out and said that he will stop 625 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: this war on day one with Ukraine because he's going 626 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: to sit down with Putin and negotiate with him. 627 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: What is your. 628 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: Response to that? Is that something that you see as possible? 629 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: Do you say the same you can just sit down 630 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: on day one and end this war. 631 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think we've got to understand the level that 632 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: we're in because there's the kinetic war, which I'm sure 633 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: is what you're referring to. It's what's going on in Ukraine, 634 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: but Russia's attacking us from a cyber standpoint every day. 635 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: They've been doing that, you know, since before President Trump 636 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: was in office. That never stopped, is continued to go on. 637 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: And so we've got the cyber war, we've got the 638 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: kinetic war, We've got an economic war, we've got a 639 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: diplomatic war. I mean, there's a lot of levers that 640 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: we have an opportunity to pull, not just militarily but economically, information, 641 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: the cyber war, and diplomatically, and we got to use 642 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: every tool that we have against our enemies because right now, 643 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: the I think Russia has met forty times with the 644 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: senior leaders of Russia met forty times with the senior 645 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: leaders of China. Those two are just growing closer and 646 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: closer together. And of course why because because again China, 647 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: who's our real enemy. They need Russian energy, and so 648 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: we've got to make sure it's more than it's not 649 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: just to point the point negotiation over one person, because 650 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: you know who knows. You know, Putin's alive today, but 651 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: the guy's a mom boss. He takes out other mob bosses. 652 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: Who knows if he's going to be around. We've got 653 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: to have a strategy that works for America and works 654 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: for all of our allies. And as I say, the 655 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: number one thing we can do start selling energy to 656 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: our friends and allies, stop buying it from our adversaries. 657 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we're writing checks and this sanctions like that 658 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: the Biden administrati has on China are just like Swiss cheese. 659 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: They're full of holes. I mean this news that just 660 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: came out today from there. You know, we were supposed 661 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: to be blocking them from being able to build high 662 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: performing chips. If they come out seven nanimeter chip and 663 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: everyone's like, how in the world did they do that? Well, 664 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: it's because we had holes and everything. The Biden administration 665 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: is a thing called blacklisting Chinese companies. But if blacklist 666 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: would mean you don't get to sell to them, but 667 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: what do you do is if you want to sell 668 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: to them, you go to the Commerce Department and they 669 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: give you a license you do it. And we've sold 670 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: tens of billions of sensitive stuff that China during the 671 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: Biden administration, even to companies that were quote blacklisted, because 672 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: it's just a facade, it's another set of things that's 673 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: not working well. 674 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: We've seen a lot of things behind the scenes that 675 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: we've talked about on this podcast that the Biden administration 676 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: has done that has been incredibly dangerous to national security. 677 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: But you know what I would say to you. They 678 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: talk on cybersecurity as something we don't hear enough about. 679 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff that has happened in the 680 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: past few years with the laws changing, the having to 681 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: have a backup in your businesses. I've actually during my campaign, 682 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 2: I will say that I talked to three businesses. It 683 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: had been ransomed, their information had been taken under control, 684 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: their cybersecurity was attacked. They're all of their business history 685 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 2: was ransomed, and they ended up paying in some cases 686 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: half a million dollars just to get their information back 687 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: because they had no other choice. It's something that's happening 688 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: more often too small businesses, and people just aren't talking 689 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: about that. And I would say, you have experienced this 690 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: is your area, and it's so scary because it's businesses 691 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 2: one day, it's our homes, the next it's them shutting 692 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: down everything. And that's something that we just aren't prepared for. 693 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: And we really haven't had somebody in the political world 694 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: that's been able to talk about that from a cybersecurity standpoint, 695 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: So I. 696 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 3: Would hit on that hard. 697 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 2: But Governor Doug Bergham, which wish you the best on 698 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: the campaign trail, why don't you tell people where they 699 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 2: can find you before we let you go. 700 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: I'll do that too, But I got to tell you 701 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: on the cyber I stepped into office six and a 702 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: half years ago and found out that basically there was 703 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: no cyber team in North Dakota and none of the 704 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: other states out of me there. So we went on 705 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: and built one of the top cyber teams in the country. 706 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: We're now providing support to states around us, the North Koreans, 707 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: the Russians, Iranians Chinese get up every day and pay 708 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: people to attack, and they attack our cities, our schools, 709 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: our tribes are in actually state, and a state has got, 710 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: of course data across all kinds of citizen information, tax information, 711 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, traffic information, whatever it is. We've got all 712 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: this information and it's our moral duty to protect that. 713 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: But I mean it's declassified now. But I mean, next 714 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: time online, I'll tell you about how the North Koreans 715 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: we're in a K twelfth school system in North Dakota 716 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: near the Canadian border, where the parents of those kids 717 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: are the ones protecting the men of man missiles that 718 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: are aimed at North Korea. I mean, because we've got 719 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: a huge swath of the US nuclear arsenal is in 720 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: North Dakota and they're literally attacking parents get into the 721 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: school system to get an email address, to get onto 722 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: the whole computer of someone who works for the North 723 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: Koda National Guard to try to get at nuclear secrets. 724 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: This is happening. No one's talking about it. It's like 725 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: it's like the mainstream media they don't want to talk 726 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: about the southern border. They don't want to talk about 727 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: the cybersecurity threats that are going on every day, and 728 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: with AI it's just going to get more challenging. 729 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 2: And you talk about the energy being so important, that 730 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 2: is a place where we are vulnerable on a cybersecurity 731 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 2: attack as well. I mean, we look at what happened 732 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: with the pipeline of Florida. You look at what could 733 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 2: happen if they shut down our grid in any area 734 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 2: and then start going through that stuff. You know, they 735 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 2: get in there, they can get that information. That's the 736 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: kind of stuff that the average American doesn't think, well, 737 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 2: if I go onto this website, then I'm vulnerable. We 738 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 2: just don't talk about it, and we don't talk about 739 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 2: the fact that you have people putting iPads and chromebooks 740 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: into our schools and those connect back to our homes, 741 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: and not that the schools are doing that, but you're right, 742 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: that can go straight to our national security dot's carry yes. 743 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: And we're the only state we pass the bill that 744 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: does require in our school system on K through college 745 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: that at whatever level you are, if you're a fourth 746 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: grader and the teacher gives you assignment, we are actually 747 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: teaching the appropriate levels of cybersecurity on how to stay 748 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: safe when you're online at every grade level all the 749 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: way through, because you can't just be like, oh, hey, 750 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: there's this amazing, amazing global network. You have to understand 751 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: how to navigate it safely. Tutor, one last thing you 752 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: said the smartest thing I've heard anybody say on a lot. 753 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: I get I'm doing a lot of interviews these days, 754 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: but you talked about that pipeline in Michigan and how 755 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: if the pipeline is shut it to moves to trucks. 756 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 1: And you understand that the Biden administration when they attack 757 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: US energy and they attack it, they're not actually reducing demand. 758 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: They're just restricting supply. And when you restrict supply, it 759 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: moves to another form of transportation, which often can be 760 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: more dangerous and more expensive. That drives inflation up, and 761 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: it also takes more two emissions to deliver it, so 762 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 1: it actually makes the environment worse, it makes the public 763 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: less safe, and it makes the prices higher. You get 764 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: that by what you said. And we can't keep having 765 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: policies that are to restart supply when global demand is 766 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: not going down. Global demand for energy and liquid fuels 767 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: is going up. And so the Biden energy policies, as 768 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: I say ritten my chin, are guaranteed to be inflationary, 769 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: just guarante be inflactiary, and they're also guaranteed to make 770 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: the environment less safe. Thank you for understanding that. Thank 771 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: you for having me on the show. Fun to talk 772 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: to somebody who actually understands us. 773 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, help us, help the rest of the country understand. 774 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: We've got one bridge from the Lower Peninsula to the 775 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: Peninsula and we certainly don't want a propane truck on 776 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 2: there every few hours, so that would be devastating if 777 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: something happened there. You write, it's incredibly dangerous. But Governor 778 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 2: Doug Bergham, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much 779 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 2: for being on today, and thank you all for listening 780 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 2: to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others, 781 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: go to tutordisonpodcast dot com. You can subscribe right there, 782 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: or head over to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or 783 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts and join us the next time. 784 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 3: Have a blessing.