1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into a second date update. This 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: is a situation where somebody's gone out with somebody of 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: time or two and then they've been blown off and 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: they want to know why. You have to ask yourself 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: if you're blown off in an initial chapter of getting 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: to know somebody in dating, would you really want to 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: know why? Or would you just let it be? I 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: depend on how harsh it was. I I'm of the 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: thinking school of let it be. I don't know that 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: I would need the peace of mind. Certainly. I would 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: never call here to get the peace of mind on 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: the air. Yeah, for sure, not publicly. There's no chance. 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Let me see. Jacob is an eagle Rock. So is 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: Jacob on a pleasant day. He's in Eagle Rock. That's 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: his coffee. What do you drink? What is your drink 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: in the morning, Jacob? 17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: I just get ice coffee, cold brew black. 18 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Wow, that is Jeff. Yeah, that gave me fire. So 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: Jacob doing that. He's on bumble. He's having a good 20 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: old time. And then he connects, swipes, swirls whatever he does. 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: What do you do on bumble? You swirl? 22 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: Uh, swiggle a little bit? No, no, I'll swipe left right? 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: You swipe, all right, So he swipes and he sees 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: what's her name? 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: Allison? 26 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: Great meets Allison? Alison, You and alson go out. I'm 27 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: just gonna read what you sent me. You said you 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: had a lot in common, you liked the same music, 29 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: you kissed, you made plans to see each other again, 30 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: and now she's not responding to your text. Is that 31 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: all true? 32 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, that's that's it. We've been on bumble like 33 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm in a band, and she seems really excited about that, 34 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: and we had a lot of music in common, like 35 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: we like a lot of the same stuff. So yeah, 36 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: I asked her out and we went to the Goldfish 37 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: in Highland Park, and I thought we hit it off. 38 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: You know. We talked and we laughed, and we talked 39 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: about going to shows together, like making plans, you know. 40 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: And at the end of the night, I walked into 41 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: her car and kissed her good night. And you know, 42 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: I knew she was out of town the week after 43 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: we went, so you know, I didn't We didn't talk much, 44 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: but then I texted to see her again and no response. 45 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: So I've no idea what could have happened? 46 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a couple of questions. Here do 47 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: you leverage the fact that you're in a band for romance? 48 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't hurt to mention, but you know. 49 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: God, just go with me on this. After the kiss, 50 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: give me the minutes. How many minutes between after the 51 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: kiss and when everything ended? And what happened in between there? 52 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: It was about I want to say, minute and a half, 53 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: two minutes like kiss happened. We chatted a little bit 54 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: kind of close face to face and just like you know, 55 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: confirming I'll text you. She got in her car and yeah, 56 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: and left. 57 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: So kiss to the departure is like no time at all. 58 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: Nothing went wrong in between there. I don't think important, 59 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: very important to understand, very important. So the kiss bye, okay, 60 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: because if you're going to kiss somebody, then things are good. 61 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: You're you're gonna kiss somebody that we are you good? 62 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Kiss her? 63 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: Bro I got no complaints? 64 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: Have you ever gotten compliments? 65 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes I have? 66 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: And what were the compliments? 67 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: A compliments? Pillowy lips? 68 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: Not uh not lips? Good one. That's what that's what 69 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: you want. Yeah, you want pillowly lips. That's what you want? 70 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: All right? 71 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: Listen, Jacob, hold on one second. We're gonna get her number, 72 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna call her, We're gonna ask her why she's 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: blowing you up. I don't get it. I really this 74 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: one I do not get Let's come back. You are 75 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: in the middle of a second date update. What more 76 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: kid you ask for? It's kiss FM pillowy lips and stuck. 77 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that, honestly, I'm unwell. 78 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: Now it's a second date update. I honestly, I really 79 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: can't understand what went wrong. So Jacob meets Alison. They swipe, 80 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: they bumble, they go out. He's in a band. He 81 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: leverages that a little bit. She likes that. He thinks 82 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: they hang out. They kiss, between kiss and she her leaving. 83 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: Nothing happened, like nothing went wrong, Like there's no time, 84 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: no time in between the kiss and when she left 85 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: the date for anything to go wrong. But yet now 86 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: she's not responding to his text. So why that's what 87 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna find out? I don't understand it. He says 88 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: he's a good kisser, because then Sidney toan you thought, well, 89 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 1: maybe if he's a bad kisser, she doesn't want to respond, 90 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: which I doubt that's superficial on a high level. No, 91 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: it's not totally is it's a chemistry thing, bad kissing, 92 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: like everything's going on. You're a bad kiss You're gonna 93 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: blow him off? Yeah, if you don't have chemistry. If 94 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: you don't have chemistry, it's not a thing. But it's rude. 95 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: It's not rude. 96 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: If it's a bad kiss, goodbye, it's rude not to 97 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 1: respond after you're sending all the other signals. Guys who's 98 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: been on more dates here? Tanya for sure? For sure? Okay, 99 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: so let's get into it. He says he's a good kisser. 100 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: He says he got a compliment from a girl once. 101 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: They told him he has pillowy lips. You like that, 102 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: I do. I'm trying to picture the pillowy lips and 103 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: whether or not that's the kind of a lip you 104 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: wan lips? You got no non pillowy You have bristly lips, 105 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: don't you like? Those are sharp? Like his are sharp? 106 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: Therese are like thin and sharp. Huh, Gabby. 107 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: You here's the thing. It's like, I feel like I 108 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: have somewhat pillowy lips. So then if I had another 109 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: guy with pillowy lips, it'd be like double pillows. 110 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: It's like so much pillows, how many polls. Do you 111 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: sleep with two? 112 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: I don't know Knowillow, Let's get to Alison here, Allison, 113 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: thank you for holding on. 114 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: You are on the air. I need you to know 115 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: that on the air here at kiss Up in Los Angeles. 116 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: Good morning. My name is Ryan. I've got Sisney and Tanya. 117 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for thank you for accepting our call. 118 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 4: Good morning. 119 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so hi, and forgive our intrusion, but we're gonna 120 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: talk to you about a guy you met on Bubble 121 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: named Jacob. How to go with Jacob? What's going on 122 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: with him? 123 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 4: Uh? 124 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: What did you say? More than here? 125 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: Jacob? Guy? You met him bumble? I think he's in 126 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: a band. You guys went out? 127 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yes, yes, okay, yeah, I remember him tattoos yeah, 128 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: uh huh okay. 129 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: So how how did it go? And are well? How 130 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: are you feeling about him? Uh? 131 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was not good. 132 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: Actually the date was not good. 133 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: No, not really. So first of all, I so I 134 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 4: don't drink. It's just, you know, not my thing. And 135 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 4: I tell people that right away, like it just don't 136 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: I'm not recovering or anything like that. I just don't drink. 137 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 4: But I mean, good lord, he drank enough for the 138 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 4: both of us. 139 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: So, yeah, that. 140 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: So do you think he thought you guys were vibing 141 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: that there was a connect? 142 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 4: I mean, there's no hell in what he thought, right, Like, 143 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 4: I don't know if he was still in the same 144 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 4: dimension as us after. 145 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: So there's not a future there. Have you let him know? 146 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: No? 147 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: No, I haven't spoken to him since. 148 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: Do you think he should know? Would you like for 149 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: him to know? 150 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I I could go either way. I don't. 151 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: He knows. 152 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: No. 153 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: Well, Allison, before anything else, Sisney wanted me to ask you, 154 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: is he a good kisser? 155 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 156 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 4: He was? 157 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: Well, how would you describe his lips? 158 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 4: I mean his lipstorted and like soft and nice? 159 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: Were they pillowy? We have enough? 160 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 161 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: Enough, Allison. Jacob is on the phone here, and the 162 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: good news is he now knows where you stand. I 163 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: think that's productive. I think in the context of all this, 164 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: it's positive Jacob that you now know where you stand. 165 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: How is it, though, Jacob, that you had such a 166 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: different picture of the day, Alison. He's here and he 167 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: thought things went well with you? 168 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean. 169 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 4: I think he thought that things went well because, like 170 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: he was, he was pretty incoherent towards the ends. 171 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: He's here, Jacob, Jacob speak, why do you think it 172 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: went well? 173 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: Wait? I was in coherence? Wait what happens fast? Oh yeah, 174 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: okay mm hmm. 175 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 4: Yously asked me like the same questions, like, well. 176 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: I am that's not good. 177 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: So that carved your initials into one of the tables. 178 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: Oh wait, one of those tables where you should. 179 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: Like everybody was doing it on that table or. 180 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: No, no, all like it was he did. Yeah. 181 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: So look, Jacob, this is good news. You're hearing some 182 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: honest feedback. Do with it what you want, but it's 183 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: clearly not going to work out. You guys have totally 184 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: different views of how that went. So the good news 185 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: is you won't be waiting for the text back. I 186 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: think it's time to move on for both of you. Agreed. 187 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I remember kissing her though, and that 188 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: was that was awesome? Like she was good? Like it was? 189 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: It wasn't I thought it was going really well. I mean, 190 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: I what what what did you think Alison? Was It 191 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: was that a good kiss at the very least because 192 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: it was good for me? 193 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, like the kiss was great, that was fine, 194 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 4: but everything else was pretty much a disaster. 195 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: So let's leave it at that. Jacob, thank you for 196 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: reaching out. Alison, thank you for staying on with us. 197 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: We wish you guys best of luck. Dating is not easy. 198 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: It's a challenge. This has happened to me before this. 199 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: This is something you are not alone and we love 200 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: you both. Thanks for coming on with us in good luck. 201 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: Good luck in a rock band, the guy in a 202 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: rock band? What a rock star move? Carve your initials 203 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: in a table. Jacob was here. Yeah, I'd be prepared 204 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: for Michael to start too, and that isn't in a 205 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: rock band. 206 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 3: Michael does not drink, barely drink. He has like a 207 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: beer a drink or I'll drink like whiskey. 208 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: Last time I was with him beer, Yeah, you'll have 209 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: like a drink. We never get strunk. It's what I'm 210 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: trying to say. But you know how I knew he 211 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: was at my house. I looked under the table. Michael 212 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: was here. Seven gives a f. That's called a second 213 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: date update. Do that every once in a while. If 214 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: you're in that dating world and you really have no 215 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: idea why someone's ghosting, blow you off, get a little 216 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: peace of mind. That's what it's for. Reach out to us,