1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: It is a full out assault on the Supreme Court 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: and the justices by someone who was probably clerking at 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court for a liberal justice who decided to 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: hand deliver were assumed documents to Politico so that there 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a paper trail that the FBI could find. 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: This is an assault on the institution because when Democrats 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: don't get their way, they want anarchy, they want chaos, 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: they want people's lives to be threatened. Now, to be clear, 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: the intent of this idiot was, probably or idiots involved, 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: was to try to put extreme pressure on the Supreme 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Court justices to change their mind before the ruling came out. 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Except that's not going to happen. What this person has done, 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: whoever decided to leak this draft opinion is now revealing 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: the Democrats will stop at nothing to destroy people or 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: places or institutions, including the Supreme Court. This is a 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: massive elation of the separation of powers and this person 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: deserves to go to jail for doing this. This is 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: an assault on an institution and how it works. This 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: has never happened before, so you understand the gravity of 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: the situation. Politico, by the way, who leak, you know, 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: got the leaked opinion piece Politico just so you know, 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: should have never run this. There's lots of stories that 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: Politico gets that they do not run. Now. Of course 24 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: they ran this one because they knew it would cement 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Politico maybe forever or certainly for at least the next 26 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: decade is a place to go and grab news. They 27 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: never should have run this story, this exclusive now. Their 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: headline says, the Supreme Court is voted to overturn abortion rights. 29 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: Draft opinion shows, quote, we hold that Roe and Casey 30 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: must be overruled. As to what Justicelito writes in an 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: initial majority draft circulated inside the Court that has now 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: been released months before this was supposed to come down, 33 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark 34 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: rov Way decision, according to an initial draft majority of 35 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: written by Justice Alito circulated inside the Court obtained by Politico. 36 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: Their headline says the draft opinion is a full throated, unflinching, 37 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: They say, unflinching attack of the nineteen seventy three decision, 38 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights, and a 39 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: subsequent nineteen ninety two decision, planned Parenthood v. Casey that 40 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: largely maintained the right quote Roe was egregiously wrong from 41 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: the start Alito rights quote, we hold that Rowe and 42 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: Casey must be overruled. That is what was the document 43 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: labeled as the opinion of the Court said, it's time 44 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: to heed the constitution return the issue of a to 45 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: the people's elected representatives, which means to the state. Now. 46 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: To be clear, this isn't saying that we are saying 47 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: that abortion is going to be banned. It's saying it's 48 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: going to go back to the state's rights issue. Of course, 49 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: the left doesn't want you to know that, or understand that, 50 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: or understand separation of powers or understand how this works. 51 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: Deliberations political rights on controvertial cases, having the past been fluid, 52 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: Justices can sometimes do change and sometimes and do change 53 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: their votes as draft opinions circulate at major decisions can 54 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: be subject to multiple drafts and vote trading, sometimes until 55 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: just days before a decision is unveiled. The Court's holding 56 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: will not be final until it is published, likely in 57 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: the next two months, and that's exactly why this was leaked. 58 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: This was leaked to put extreme pressure on Supreme Court 59 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: justices to change their vote and The reason why they 60 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: want to change their vote is because that they are 61 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: afraid for their lives. That's what they're saying. That's how 62 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: this is going to go down. That's why it was leaked. 63 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: They want this to become a major issue. They want 64 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: this to become so much pressure. They want this to 65 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: become an election issue as well. Look what happens when 66 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: you vote for Republicans. They take away your right to vote. 67 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: That's what they're going to say. They're going to take 68 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: away your right to have an abortion. Now, whoever did 69 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: this deserves to be in jail. The fact that they 70 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: did this tells you everything you need to know, right, 71 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: The fact that they did this tells you all that 72 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: you need to know about how radical the leftist. Remember 73 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: what they did during the confirmation hearings of the different 74 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: Conservatives that were put on the court by Donald Trump. 75 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: Remember that they accused court justices of being junior high 76 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: rape partiers that plan rate parties to rate people. Right, 77 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: this is what they did to people. They made things up, 78 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: just like they made up Russian collusion, just like they 79 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: made up that Donald Trump had a connection to a 80 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: bank in Russia, just like they made up the Dalcia 81 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: and they knew it was a lie, and they still 82 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: went with it to impeach Donald Trump. This is no 83 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: different way what they did with Supreme Court justices. Never 84 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: forget that this is no different than what they're doing 85 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: right now. Never forget that this is pure evil. This 86 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: is basically I would describe as a kill list, a 87 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: hit list. If there's any crazy psychotic leftists out there, 88 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: and there are plenty, here's your list of conservatives that 89 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: maybe you could go after and change the vote. That's 90 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: also part of this, and I'm not saying that it's 91 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: already online people are talking about maybe somebody will do 92 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: the right thing as they describe it. I can't even 93 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: imagine what the security is going to have to be 94 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: like for the next three months or two months until 95 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: the opinion comes out. Can't imagine what this is going 96 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: to be like, what it's going to look like for 97 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: their lives as they go around. They're not going to 98 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: be able to go out to dinner. They're not going 99 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: to be able to live and function this summer the 100 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: way they normally do. The amount of security they are 101 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: going to need to walk around and they and whoever 102 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: leaked this or the people that leak this. That is 103 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: exactly why they did it, and that's why they did 104 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: it on purpose. This this is a conscientious, deliberate decision 105 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: that was done by those on the left to not 106 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: only attack Alito and others, but it was to endanger 107 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: their lives. Because when you do this, that's exactly what 108 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: you get out of it. This has never happened before. 109 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: By the way, this is an unprecedented event that has 110 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: taken place. I want you to also understand that this 111 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: is unprecedented in scope, This is unprecedent in the way 112 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: that it was released. And Politico, by the way, should 113 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: have never done this because Politico has now put Supreme 114 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: Court justices lives at risk. But I'm not sure they 115 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: care because man, it's a bait. It's a great headline. 116 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: They even put it out there. Deliberations on controversial cases 117 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: have in the past been fluid. In other words, they're 118 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: implying put extreme pressure on these justices. Justice can and 119 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: sometimes do change their vote since draft opinions circulate and 120 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: major decisions can be subject to multiple drafts and vote trading. Again, 121 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: put extreme pressure on the Supreme Court. The Republican, the 122 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: conservative justices that are on there, right, because we know 123 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: who's on that side of the vote. Now, go after them, 124 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: stock them using the words of democrats, get in their face, 125 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: don't let them go shopping, don't let them pump gas, 126 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: don't let them do anything, don't let them function in society, 127 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: hound them, get in their face. Is remember when Democrats 128 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: said that about people that supported Donald Trump. You don't 129 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: think they're trying to do the exact same thing right now, 130 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: because that's exactly what they're trying to do. As exactly 131 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: what they are trying to do right now. Let's talk 132 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: about the media for a second and how they're reacting 133 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: to this. Oh, they've got some hot takes on this. 134 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: You think they're worried about the historical context of what 135 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: just happened. No, you think they're worried or upset about 136 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: this being leaked and what this does and how this 137 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: changes things with our Supreme Court, how it undermines this institution. 138 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. They are not worried about that at all, 139 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: because this is great for them, This is great TV. 140 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: They don't care about anybody's lives being ruined, destroyed, stalked, 141 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: having to go into lockdown. They don't care. This is 142 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: a direct attack on the institution. They don't care because, man, 143 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: this is a great story. It's a great story for Politico, 144 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: it's a great story for everybody else involved. This is 145 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: just an amazing moment for them. This morning, Pete Williams 146 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: on the Scotus League, he has some sort of I 147 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: think journalism, journalistic integrity and understanding of the Supreme Court. 148 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: This is what he had to say on NBC MSNBC 149 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: this morning when he was asked about this. Listen straight 150 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court where we find NBC News Justice 151 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: correspondent Pete Williams. Pete, good morning. You've had a wild 152 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: to digest this, to read through some of this draft opinion. 153 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: What more are you hearing about it this morning? Well, 154 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty obvious that this is as far 155 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: as you would expect an opponent of Road to go here. 156 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: This is Aldo basically demolishing all the arguments in favor 157 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: of Roe, saying it was wrongly decided from the very beginning, 158 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: marshaling all the examples. He can think of a people 159 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: who presumably supported Roe, who have always been a it's 160 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: a very far reaching a draft opinion. Now, how it's 161 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: going to come out in the end, we don't know. 162 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean, typically majority opinions start out this way. You 163 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: make all of your big points, and then you take 164 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: into account that dissent and some of the fight, some 165 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: of the sharper ridges get sanded off in the process. 166 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: But one thing about this Willie that really puzzles me 167 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: is I don't understand the point of this leak. I 168 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: have been on both ends listen to this. I don't 169 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: understand the point of this leak. And this is when 170 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: it's sad that it's guys like Pete Williams here's from 171 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: the last. I think men that understand how the Court's 172 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: supposed to work, this separation of powers, that understands how 173 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: bad of a deal. This is the precedent that this 174 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: is moving forward. There are a lot of things that 175 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: you can say right now about Roe v. Wade, but 176 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: this isn't really about Roe v. Wade at this point. 177 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: This is about somebody that decided they were bigger than 178 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: the United States Constitution. On the last, this is a 179 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: liberal who decided that they wanted to put Supreme Court 180 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: justice lives at risk by leaking this, trying to put 181 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: pressure to change a vote before it comes out. I 182 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: don't think that's going to happen. But this, this is 183 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: how they don't play within the rules. Again, if you 184 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: want to understand the sickness of liberalism in America today, 185 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: the derangement, the mental disorder of liberalism when they don't 186 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: get their ways, it is exactly what you're witnessing right 187 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: now at the Supreme Court with this ruling. It's also 188 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: and and by the way, these are the top brilliant minds. 189 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: Right when you get somebody that quirts the Supreme Court, 190 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about brilliant people, and it's infected them at 191 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: the highest levels of the Democratic Party. The most brilliant 192 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: people in the Democratic Party came up with the Russian 193 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: collusion hoax. The most brilliant people in society in the 194 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: Democratic Party came up with the Russian information campaign, Russian 195 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: collusion and everything that comes along with it. Never forget 196 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: that they're the ones that came up. The most brilliant 197 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: minds in the Democratic Party are also the ones that 198 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: came up with a you know, he had junior high 199 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: rape parties he planned right when they came after Republican 200 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: nominees under Trump, they will stop at nothing to destroy 201 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: your life. And they don't care if you die in 202 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: the process. They don't care if you are called a 203 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: rapist in the process. They don't care that Spring Court 204 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: Justice right now probably have more security they've ever had 205 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: their entire lives because of this, because that's how vile 206 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: and disgusting they are. They refuse to accept defeat when 207 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: they lose. They are like kamikaze pilots. We don't get 208 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: our way. We kill you and me. We kill everything, 209 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: we destroy everything, We ruin everything. Right, That's really what 210 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: this is. This is a seek and destroy goes scorts earth, 211 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: but not just here and there. It's on everything now. 212 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: And that's exactly why Pete Williams like, I really don't 213 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to back it up at just a moment here. 214 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: That's why he says, I really don't understand this league. 215 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: I don't understand what they thought was going to happen. 216 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: Because he also understands how the Supreme Court works. But 217 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: one thing about this Willie that really puzzles me is 218 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: I don't understand the point of this leak. I have 219 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,359 Speaker 1: been on both ends of the leaking exchange in Washington. 220 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm a former government spokesman. I admit I used to 221 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: leak stuff in the past. I'm a reporter. I get 222 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: leaks now, and you know people leak to affect policy. 223 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: But for the life of me, cannot understand the point 224 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: of this leak. I think all nine justices came in 225 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: to hear this argument knowing how they were going to vote. 226 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: They voted that way right afterwards. I don't think the 227 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: argument affected It just made it clear to all of 228 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: us that they were going to vote to overturn Row. 229 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: But now, what's the point of the league? I mean, 230 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: is it possible that one of these five members is 231 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: teetering and the leaker decided they needed to do this 232 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: to cement that person in place? Or is this somebody 233 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: that opposed the decision that was just so furious they 234 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: wanted it out there. But you know, what, what good 235 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: would the leak do in terms of affecting anything. I 236 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: just don't get it. Yeah, and Pete here I've been 237 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he gets it. Why would you do this? 238 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: What is the point of this? Well, the point is 239 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: maybe there's somebody that could possibly change their opinion, or 240 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: maybe there's a Supreme Court justice and some radical out 241 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: there will take them out. The person that leaked this 242 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: knew what the reaction was going to be from the left. 243 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: They know that the left is insane, they know that 244 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: they're radical. This isn't this isn't just about trying to 245 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: attempt to influence the outcome of the Supreme Court, which 246 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: is a massive separation of powers issue. This is about 247 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: threatening their lives. That's what this is represented. Michael Walt's 248 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: Republican Ford to have this to say about the Supreme 249 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: Court talking about this is a Cavanaugh life approached the 250 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: Supreme Court on this one. This is scorched earth ruin 251 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: their lives or try to threaten their lives. Well, I 252 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: think that's unclear at this point because it's never happened 253 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: before to my knowledge. This is this is just so 254 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: outrageous that this draft opinion was leaked. It's clearly an 255 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: attempt to influence the outcome. But guys, be prepared for 256 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: the scorched earth tactics of the left on this issue. 257 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: They truly believe the ends justify the means, no matter 258 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: what laws or what norms they have to break and 259 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: be prepared for a Cavanaugh like approach to the Supreme 260 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: Court on this one, and they are going to burn 261 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: it down as you're hearing the activists say in order 262 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: to try to stop this. And what's such a shame 263 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: is that many pro life activists, many people who believe 264 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: in the sanctity of life, abided by the law for 265 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: nearly fifty years, even though they believe that child who's 266 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: life was being unjustly taken. But I would not expect 267 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: that same courtesy from the other side for our nation's 268 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: system and for its rule of law. He's right, this 269 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: is about the rule of law. He understands it, and 270 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: so do the left when they leak this, and so 271 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: did Politico when they broke the story. And I'm sure 272 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: Politico said in behind closed doors, screw it, we're going 273 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: to run this. Who cares what happens these justices? Right? 274 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: Who cares what happens with the radicals trying to change us? 275 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: And if you don't think there's psychos out there they're 276 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: thinking about, well, maybe we just need to get rid 277 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: of one of these Spreme Court justices in the five 278 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: before this ruling comes out. And then what happens, Right, 279 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: they're vote official if they die. There's crazies out there 280 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: that think that way. And I'm sure Politico justified this 281 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: by saying, well, if we don't run it, they're just 282 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: going to go down the street to this paper, to 283 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: this online and it's gonna get out anyway. So we 284 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: might as well make some money off of it, make 285 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: a name for ourselves with it, and we're going to 286 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: be the ones that run it. Who cares, Let's go 287 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: for it. Screw everybody whose live is negatively affected by this. 288 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: We don't care how how dangerous this leak is. Are 289 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: coming out and saying that. Now the commentators and the 290 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: hosts are not. But those that understand what the Supreme 291 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: Court is in the institution, they get it. Jeffrey Tubin, 292 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: he's the senior legal analyst at CNN, the same guy 293 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: who got fired from a job for pleasuring himself on 294 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: a zoom call with other employees, who got suspended from CNN. 295 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: But they rehabbed him at seeing him because he was 296 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: a good liberal and we'll bring him back no matter what. 297 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Tuban, that same guy this morning on their morning 298 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: show called New Day, said this the fact of this 299 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: league here, We've never seen anything like this. I mean, 300 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, I've covered the Court for pushing thirty years now. 301 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: This is so outside the history of the Supreme Court. 302 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: There have been very occasional leaks of votes in cases 303 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: you know the Court is going to vote a certain 304 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: certain way, but a draft opinion has never been released, 305 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: and a draft opinion in a case of monumental significance. 306 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: This is going to damage the institution of the Supreme Court. 307 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: Regardless of what you think about abortion. This was already 308 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: an institution that was much less popular than it used 309 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: to be. But the manner in which this is coming 310 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: to public view is an real indictment of how this 311 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: court operates. Jeffrey Jennifer, thank you both for helping us 312 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: understand this. Now what does this bring me to? And 313 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm trying to connect doubts as fast as i can. 314 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: This is now going to be justification for Joe Biden 315 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: packing the Supreme Court. You can't let the Supreme Court 316 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: stay at nine. You need to pack that court so 317 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: we can get our way. There are two there are 318 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: three takeaways. And again I'm still seeing and looking at 319 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: this fallout. This is in my initial reaction. But my 320 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: initial reactions number one, this is a kill list against 321 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: the five people that we're going to vote in favor 322 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: of this opinion, right, that are on the side that Rov. 323 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: Wade is bad law, which it is. Right, that's number one. 324 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: Number two, This is going to justify the Democrats ahead 325 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: of the midterms, packing the court and that maybe this 326 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: may be their campaign issue now, actually not, maybe this 327 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: is their campaign issue. Vote for us and we'll pack 328 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: the court. Vote for us, and we'll stop things like 329 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: this from happening. Right, you must keep us in the 330 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: majority because we must keep sending liberal Supreme Court justice 331 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: to rule the overrule of these radical Republicans on the right. 332 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: It's a kill list, it's to undermine, it's to justify 333 00:19:55,359 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: court packing, all of these things. Liberalism is a mental 334 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: disease when you do this to an institution like this 335 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: is a mental disease when you think that the rules 336 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: don't apply to you because you have grown up to 337 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: believe that whatever it is that you believe is far 338 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: superior to anyone else. Because that's what whoever leaked this, 339 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: or the people that leak this, that's what they thought. 340 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of people, by the way, that 341 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: would even see this, So you understand how Supreme Court works. 342 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: I just sent a message to somebody that worked to 343 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, and I asked them. I was like, 344 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: how many people are going to be able to even 345 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: see this? And they said, look, this is maybe forty people, 346 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: maybe forty five at the most. As it was said 347 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: earlier today, it's an unprecedented betrayal by one of the 348 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: forty five or so people with access to a draft 349 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: Supreme Court opinion to prevent this decision from becoming law 350 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: by scaring off moderate justices and attempting to whip the 351 00:20:54,280 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: political left into a psychotic frenzy. There are five key points, 352 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: by the way to realize about this opinion and how 353 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: it's shockingly could have happened, and why the Supreme Court 354 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: will suffer damage, damage that you'll never be able to 355 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: undo if one of the majority justices switched asides, because 356 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: then it's like, well, every time you don't like something, 357 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: elak it. First, what the sixty seven page opinion says. 358 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: We hold that Roe v. Wade must be overruled. The 359 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right 360 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: as implicitly protected by any constitutional provision, including the one 361 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: on which the defenders of Row and Casey now chiefly 362 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: rely the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. That 363 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: provision has been held to guarantee some rights that are 364 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: not mentioned in the Constitution, but in such right must 365 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: be deeply rooted in this nation's history and tradition, and 366 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: implicit in the concept of ordered liberty. The opinion reads, 367 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: the right to abortion does not fall into this category 368 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: until the later part of the twentieth century, such as 369 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: such a right was entire highly unknown to American law. Indeed, 370 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: when the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, three quarters of the 371 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: states made abortion a crime at all stages of pregnancy. 372 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: The abortion right is also critically different from any other 373 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: right that the Court is held to fall within the 374 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: Fourteenth Amendments Protection of liberty road defenders characterize the abortion 375 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: right is similar to the right recognizing past decisions involving 376 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: matters such as intimate sexual relations, contraception, and marriage, but 377 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: abortion is fundamentally different, as both row in case he acknowledged, 378 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: because it destroys what those decisions called feet of life 379 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: and what the law now before us describes as an 380 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: unborn human being. The opinion discusses at length whether Constitution 381 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: is originally, as originally understood, include a right to abortion, 382 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: concluding it does not. It then goes on for many 383 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: pages of the features of the legal policy of when 384 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: to adhere to Court precedent and explains why it does 385 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: not require upholding rose right to abortion. Then, finally, on 386 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: page sixty two, it addresses the point that whoever betrayed 387 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: the Court was likely trying to make with this unprecedented 388 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: violation of trust. Quote. The American people's belief in the 389 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: rule of law would be shaken if they lost respect 390 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: for this Court as an institution that decides important cases 391 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: based on principal, not social and political pressures. Quote. But 392 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: we cannot exceed the scope of our authority under the Constitution, 393 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: and we cannot allow our decisions to be affected by 394 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: the extraneous influences, such as concern about the public's reaction 395 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: to our work. Alito responds to the Court, that is both. 396 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: That is true both when we initially decided excuse me, 397 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: when we initially decide a constitutional issue, and when we 398 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: consider whether to over rule a prior decision. Secondly, why 399 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: the opinion is probably genuine and an air of word 400 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: processors fraudsters can make documents that physically look like the 401 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: real thing, but this is different. Experts are now saying, First, 402 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: Supreme Court opinions are dense and complex. They're extremely carefully 403 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: written and are full of citations and quotations. Experience appellet 404 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: attorneys know what to look for and all this carries 405 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: all the hallmarks of that. That's why it clearly is 406 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: real and by the way, Supreme Court probably would have 407 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: come out and said if it wasn't. Also, each justice 408 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: has his or her own voice. This reads like an 409 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: opinion by sam Alito, experts are now saying, so there's 410 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: every reason to believe he authored the first draft. And 411 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: given that the DABS case was argued on December first, 412 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: the time stamp of February ten on this draft would 413 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: fit a normal opinion writing time frame for something of 414 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: this scope. Third, how this could have happened and why 415 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: the only people who definitively have access to this are 416 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: the nine justices and their thirty six law clerks. Four 417 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: law clerks are assigned to each justice, for a total 418 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: of only forty five people. It is almost certain that 419 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: it had to have been one of the law clerks. 420 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: Are multiple clerks working on the same team, who would 421 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: take the ultimate credential a young lawyer can achieve and 422 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: instead put himself for herself on track to never be 423 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: licensed to practice law in the nation. Fourth, why this 424 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: might not actually become the actual decision of the Supreme 425 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: Court takes five votes on the nine member court to 426 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: make it a majority opinion. When cases are argued that 427 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: justices have a weekly closed door conference on Friday at 428 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: which they discuss the case, take a preliminary vote, and 429 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: one justice when the majority, is assigned the task of 430 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: writing the opinion. After the opinion has written into circulate 431 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: to the other justices, that is when the negotiating begins, 432 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: where justice say that they could join if certain changes 433 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: are made, and others decide to dissent and organize that 434 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: writing effort. Still, other justices join the majority judgment, but 435 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: right concurring opinions to emphasize some point important to them. 436 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: At any time during this process, justices can change their vote, 437 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: and it happens often. The cases do not grab headlines, 438 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: but earth shattering decisions like the one upholding Obamacare in 439 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: twenty twelve bears the hallmark of such a case. This 440 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: then appears to be an effort to intimidate a moderate 441 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: conservative justice to switch sides, in which the case this 442 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: opinion would become a dissenting opinion and a liberal justice 443 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: opinion would speak for the majority. Then there's a threat 444 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: here which I mentioned a moment ago of court packing. 445 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: In the nineteen thirty seven Jones and Laughlin steelcase, two 446 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice switch from years of their own presence 447 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: to reinterpret the commerce caused the Constitution fundamentally transforming the 448 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: power of the federal government over the nation. They did 449 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: this in an unnecessary attempt to stop FDR's plan to 450 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: pack the Court with six new justices for a total 451 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: of fifteen. It was unnecessary because the plan was already collapsing, 452 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: but the public intimidation convinced a couple of members of 453 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: the Court to virtually transform the nation. Democrats have explored 454 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: court packing over the past two years for the first 455 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: time in eight decades. Doubtless, many on the left will 456 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: claim that now they have to do it, so this 457 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: will be worth it to justify their means in the 458 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: elections coming up. Finally, the Supreme Court's credibilities at stake 459 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: to see this through. If anyone switches their vote because 460 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: of this, the Court will take more than a generation 461 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: regain the trust the American people. To the contrary, the 462 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: Justice should double down. This is likely a five four 463 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: decision because this betrayal looks like an intimidation tactic. Yet 464 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: one justice to change his or her mind. Since decision 465 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: is in many ways out, those five should stop the 466 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: pressure by all sign the latest version of it and 467 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: publishing it immediately as a binding decision of the Court. 468 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 1: Those would dissents or concurrences can publish them later if 469 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: they are so inclined. But this shameful debate, shameful debacle 470 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: of a debate, and the immediate pressure campaign it is creating, 471 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: should in now with the Court handing down the decision 472 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: and Dabbs immediately. As the page sixty five of the 473 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: League opinion explains, quote, we do not pretend to know 474 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: how our political system or society will respond to today's 475 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: decision overruling Robe and Casey, And even if we could 476 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: foresee what will happen, we would have no authority to 477 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: let the knowledge influence our decisions. We can only do 478 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: our job, which is to interpret the law, applying longstanding principles, 479 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: and decide this case accordingly. We therefore hold the Constitution 480 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: does not confer a right to abortion. Rowan Casey must 481 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: be overruled and the authority to regulate abortion must be 482 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: returned to the people, and they're elected representatives. In other words, 483 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: states rights issue doesn't mean, by the way, that abortion 484 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: is illegal in America. I want to make that clear. 485 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: It means that states are going to get to decide 486 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: what they want to do in each state, and liberal 487 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: states will still have abortion. Conservative states will probably get 488 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: rid of it at the end of the day. What 489 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: the Democrats did here to the court, what this person did, 490 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: which I hope they find them, arrest them and dispar 491 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: them for life, was to influence the court, pack the court. 492 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, whoever leaked this will become a 493 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: hero of the left. They will get six figure book deals, 494 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: speaking engagements, they will probably head the National Organization of Women. 495 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: They're going to be just fine. And they made that 496 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: calculated decision to do this. They're gonna get paid one 497 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: way or another. They're gonna go They're gonna be a 498 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: women's right, it's advocate for life, and they will become 499 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: a hero of the left. And this was a kill 500 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: list to go after these five people. Never forget that, 501 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: all right. Lastly, please make sure you hit that subscribe 502 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: button or auto download button wherever you are listening to 503 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: this podcast right now, and take a moment to write 504 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: us a five star review. 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