1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast Podcast. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: If you are even remotely a savage, you'll run these 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: people over for a second. Hello and welcome the Action 4 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Network Podcast presented by Bet MGM. I'm Sean Zerula, joined 5 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: today by Billy Ward to help you preview Saturday's UFC 6 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: event at the UFC Apex. But first we've got a 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: very special guest with us this week, joining us number 8 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: fifteen lately in the world, six and zero in the UFC, 9 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: Patty the Batty Pimblet. 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining the show. 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me fellas. What's going on? 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: Well, Patty, let's let's talk about your favorite football club first. 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: You know, Liverpool season underway. Urregen Clop no longer the manager. 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on your team outside of your sport, 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: outside of your day job. I am I'm aware that 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: Liverpool takes up a big part of your life. Your 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: fandom takes up you know, a big part of your consumption. 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Liverpool this year? What are 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: your thoughts of a new manager and how do you 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: feel about the direction of the club this season? 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 4: Well, Llillia Iman just come across gres and interviews and 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 4: stuff like that. I like the style on any stake 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 4: to the point. So I'm liking it so far and 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 4: didn't perform first half that well means the twitch both 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 4: Seve and half we come out in blue in my way, 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 4: So I'm looking forwards this season. I think game I 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 4: think we're gonna shot a lot of people, think Tom. 28 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 4: He's kind of shows a lot of people, all right. 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 3: How many games are you able to get to a year? 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 3: Is it? Is it? 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I know tickets are difficult to come by, 32 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: but you know the stadium expanded capacity is bigger now, 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: is it. Obviously with your your schedule being in camp, 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: you know, being in the gym, it's difficult to get 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: out and do other things. But are you able to 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: attend still a few matches per season? 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course You're still trying to get some most 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 4: home games, be honest, because the locals sign. It's the 39 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: most own games. I'm going on Sunday away games that 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: I have to get to it at all, but still 41 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: end up getting to a few of them. This season 42 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: are back from the Champions League, so hopefully get to 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 4: a few Motor But he's said I went to park 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 4: last season in the Open League, so hopefully we've got 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: a few seasons away days this season and the Champions Leape. 46 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: It's different than we have in America because it's all 47 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: of your fandom is focused on one team. You know, 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 2: I have my baseball team, my football team, my basketball team. 49 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 4: Yeah. 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: I think most people don't realize all that fandom just 51 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: gets combined into one passionate fan base plays is. 52 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 4: The same Blazers from Philly. Lad it's always gone the Sixers, 53 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 4: the Flyers. What else they've got so on the Eagles, 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, He's got all sorts of 55 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: different teams that he needs to support for. In Liverpool 56 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 4: that's just Liverpool Football Club or whatever all the other 57 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 4: and then other than that, it's like fighting sports and 58 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: individual sports, not really team sports. 59 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: We're ever going to see you fight at anfield. 60 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: I know that that would be a career aspiration for you. 61 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: A UC card hosted at anfield, for you to headline 62 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: that card, potentially to be defending a UFC belt at 63 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: that card. So in your mind, you know you're walking 64 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: out at anfield, this does happen, which Liverpool legends are 65 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: walking out with you? 66 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 4: The Susan obviously. 67 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I figured it would be Carriger. 68 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, with them by then, love, by then some of 69 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: our players you're playing now will be beside of that, 70 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: So like Virgina just the month. 71 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: So okay, so six and ow in the UFC number 72 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: fifteen in the lightweight rankings. The two fighters directly ahead 73 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: of you number fourteen, number fifteen, Jalen Dierner Pavel des Aos, 74 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: both currently unbooked. We can get to some of the 75 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: other fighters above them. The UFC's reached out about a 76 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: potential fight. But looking at Dosanos, looking at Turner, either 77 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: of those guys interest you, And has the UFC reached 78 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: out about your potential next fight? 79 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: No, the de cent the next fight. But I's got 80 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 4: a fight book. He's fighting Jeff fighting Jeff Neil at wellsoy, 81 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 4: that's what to me. I think I'm gonna get moved 82 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 4: to rank and anyway, because I just said he won't 83 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: fight the lightweights again and he's gonna fight wellway from 84 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 4: now on, So probably going to get moved as a 85 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: full team and then but no, I want to fight 86 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: and that wakan A lot of you wants to fight me. 87 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: I want to fight him. I think it'd be a 88 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: full fight for everyone involved. 89 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, Micano fighting Ben Wile Saint Denis in September, Dan 90 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: Hooker Matatos Gamrock is coming off of a pretty exciting 91 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: fight on the last card. As I mentioned, other guys 92 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: in the division and the Hope Elfasief knee injury. Bnio 93 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: Berry is dealing with miniscus hair from last month. It's 94 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: a bit of an odd case, you know, Michael Chandler 95 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: waiting for the conomor Gregor fight. It's a bit of 96 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: an on case in your division because it's not like 97 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: everybody's book. There's a few fights that are booked and 98 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: a lot of fighters are sitting on the sidelines. I 99 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: think there's a chance you could get jumped up into 100 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: the top five and potentially given, you know, a title 101 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: eliminated shot. But do you think you're you're two three, 102 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: two fights away, two wins away from a title shot, 103 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: or do you think there's a potentially your one fight 104 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: away from potentially fighting for a title. 105 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: I'll let everyone else about that lot. I'll just keep fighting. 106 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 4: I'm winning as I got off with Donald, hoping next 107 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 4: fight I'll take to know what I mean, jump right up 108 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 4: in round five and then probably will be a tite 109 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 4: eliminated next, So I'm game for anything. As I say, 110 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 4: any any name gets sent to me that i'll I'm 111 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 4: not shying away from fighting anyone now. 112 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 5: I would personally love to see the grappling between you 113 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 5: and Morkano in that fight. That would that would be awesome. 114 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 5: On a lighter note, what's the funniest bit of trash 115 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 5: talk you've heard from an opponent or even a fan 116 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 5: in a UFC fight or Cage Warriors anywhere else. I 117 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 5: guess I all. 118 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: Ad some bad ones. They had some very bad ones. 119 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 4: I wish I had other people here would have been 120 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 4: with me in shows. So they did think of someone, 121 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 4: they had some terrible ones, But off the I can't 122 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: even think of one. 123 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: Anything you've said to an opponent to get in their 124 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: head during a fight that he thought was like particularly clever. 125 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 4: No, I'll be honest. Normally I don't. I don't speak 126 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 4: him fights. I suppose back to Bobby, like I said 127 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: a few things back to Bobby, woulda kind of remember 128 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: what I said, But yeah, I don't. I don't normally 129 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: talk them fights. Maybe even months off with someone and 130 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: they've done me eding, but that's all I did. I 131 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 4: probably I wouldn't want to to all them shits on 132 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 4: the feet left and then get and slapped them play. 133 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: It's a it's not a good loaf, is it. 134 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 135 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: I think that fighting with Bobby had played out a 136 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: little bit longer, we might have gotten some good trash 137 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: talk between you two eventually, but you ended it a 138 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: little bit too quickly. And I think as you were 139 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: choking about he didn't really have the opportunity to say 140 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: anything to you. 141 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 4: So even off the opportunity is he's a top club 142 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: about to say. 143 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 3: It's very true, put him to sleep. 144 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: I want to talk about your walkout and your mentality, 145 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: and you know you have a ton of energy during 146 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: your walkout. 147 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: I put it up there with any walk out in 148 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: MMA right now. 149 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: Poton obviously phenomenal voke when he's fighting in Australia coming 150 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: out to land on on your tremendous but your walk 151 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: out tons of energy. But then you have to flip 152 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: the switch and you get in the cage and you 153 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: go back to in your mind, going to the things 154 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: you worked on in training camp, going to your game plan. 155 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: How do you go from all of that energy in 156 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: the walkout to then flipping the switch, calming yourself down 157 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: and going back to I need to stand here and 158 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: kick Bobby Green at range and wait for the fight 159 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: to play out, not immediately go and try. 160 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: To take him down. 161 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: How do you how do you flip that mental switch 162 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: in your mind from your walk out to the actual fight. 163 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. People always ask me that, but I'll 164 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: be honestly, I have no clue. That's I just that's 165 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 4: why I always say I'm just built to do this. 166 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: I was made to do this, because obviously I've all 167 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 4: sort of that was going through your leather as you 168 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: walk and I was even I mean, before you're walking out, 169 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: when that music, it's like, I couldn't have another care 170 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: in the world that not on, not one can get 171 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: in the head. And then obviously and the music goes 172 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: off and he's standing there facing your opponents. It's just 173 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 4: telling myself, it's only me and him in this world. 174 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: There's no one else on this planet now that matter, 175 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: just me and him and the ref Oh, I mean, 176 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: that's it. No one else matters. So I've just got 177 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 4: to hate him more than you can hate me, and 178 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 4: I'll win. 179 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: Do you feel an adrenaline rush though when you're walking 180 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: out or are you calm and your music is playing. 181 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: I don't even know because I don't. I don't feel 182 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: like I have a crazy at ambling rush because when 183 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: I get in the cage, I feel sound, I feel fresh, 184 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 4: feel like I don't feel like I've done like a 185 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: big warehouse. And in the last fight, I've watched the 186 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: back and I am about two minutes for one of me. Coaches. 187 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 4: Ellis shouts halfway, I can remember taking of yourself a 188 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 4: half away. Yeah, I feel shut hear me, and everyone 189 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: was talking about me gas and I feel shar hear me, 190 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: and I remember like going at him a little bit more. 191 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: Then that's when I threw the like k from the 192 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: end of that time to grab all of me. 193 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 5: We're one of the few fights as custom walkout shorts 194 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 5: or custom fight shorts in the UFC. Was that something 195 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 5: you pushed for? Was that something they proposed to you? 196 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 5: How did that come up? Because that's a big yeah. 197 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 4: I pushed for that on I mean I put a 198 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 4: little post up on Instagram. I mean I had to 199 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: message Venom and stuff like that. I message someone else 200 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 4: because obviously I've all read all the UFC fights. But 201 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: then I've always wanted to wear orange anyway, but you 202 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 4: have to pick wet red, black and white, and where 203 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 4: Bobby was the rank fighter, Bobby pis red, So I 204 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 4: had to pick between black and white, and I was like, no, 205 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: I won't be Autumn johnes. The's with red Ica made 206 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 4: Autumn staff. They're not on life it's all. And then 207 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: obviously if you end up pushing forward and we end 208 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: up getting it, so yeah, I'll be with them for 209 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 4: even I will we lest you make another customized PA 210 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 4: Autumn John's, I'll be with the same path whatever. 211 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 5: Do you physically have the same pair? Do they give 212 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 5: you new ones every time or something like that. 213 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: No, No, they give you new ones every time, but 214 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 4: you had a new pat of fight, so it's ever 215 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: each time. 216 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: So Patty, we talked about the engagement side of fighting, right, 217 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: getting yourself locked in. What about leading up to the fights, 218 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: your camp, the days where it's a little bit more 219 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: difficult to get yourself going. You know, high pressure jobs 220 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: like yours, even mind to a degree, you're putting yourself 221 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: out there and there's a lot of criticism. There's a 222 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: lot of pressure and stress that goes with it. You've 223 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: been using your platform to raise awareness for men's mental health, 224 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: which I want to thank you for because in a 225 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: testosterone dominated space like MMA, I think it's really important 226 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 2: that fighters speak openly and destigmatize conversations around mental health. 227 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: I've had days where I can't get out of bed, 228 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: just to be straight up, I'm sure you have as well. 229 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: Based on what you've said, I know you've had friends 230 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 2: you've lost to suicide. 231 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: Which is horrible. 232 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm very sorry for that, and that's why you're in 233 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: the position to raise awareness about men's mental health. So 234 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: I want to ask you, when you're struggling, on days 235 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: that you, in particular are struggling, have you found any 236 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: methods in particular to break yourself out of that fog 237 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: or to get yourself back to your best. 238 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 4: Well, now I have an added I had an added motivation. 239 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 4: I've got kids. I mean, I've got two little girls 240 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: that I need to get out of bed for them, 241 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 4: going to say for them, win fights for on my 242 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 4: wife known to me, and I've got them not I 243 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 4: need to do a football even before then. It's not 244 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 4: with me that it's not the motivations that get in 245 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 4: the gym, it's just getting me, you know what I mean? 246 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: Because I know ones have done me sessioned, I'll feel better. 247 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 4: And that's what I That's what I signed do when 248 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: I'm down on the dumb snow on to me and 249 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 4: just make sure that I'm going to the gym because 250 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 4: of it. Don't go to the gym and just sit 251 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: in my house all day. I'll just get even more 252 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 4: depressed and start overthinking ivying even more. 253 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 5: So. 254 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: I always say when you're feeling like that, to connect 255 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: with other people people, that those people that care about you, 256 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 4: ship around and get something to eat with them, or 257 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: watch them and just shit and speak to them, and 258 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 4: you'll feel ten times better after that. But that that 259 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 4: for me is the gym, you know what I mean, 260 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 4: because well most of my makes it in the gym. 261 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 4: Obviously I've got makes that go up with that don't 262 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 4: from the gym, But most of my makes it in 263 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: the gym who we see all day every day life. 264 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 4: Going there for me is after because I get to 265 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 4: shit around and talk to all like mind the people. 266 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: Are there any changes in how you'd like to see 267 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: how other MMA fighters address mental health, how it's addressed 268 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 2: in gyms, you know, how it's just addressed in the 269 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: community overall, Like what what direction do you want to 270 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: push this conversation in. 271 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 4: I just hope everyone starts talking that. But I've I've 272 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 4: experienced it myself, you know what I mean. I've told 273 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 4: people to start open, and then people happened the other 274 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 4: week when I was fighting Bobby. I mean, I said 275 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 4: about me membleels a couple of weeks out from the fight, 276 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 4: like five or six weeks out from the fighting, coaches 277 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: looking pull me out, and then I just had people 278 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 4: attack me say, you know, he's only doing this to 279 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 4: get some funds. He's only doing this or this and that. 280 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: I know what it's like. People online give me ship, 281 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 4: especially in positions I waited, where you put yourself out 282 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: there and people just want to attakia just to make 283 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 4: themselves feel better. I just let everyone know that. Yeah, 284 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: no mass of it. How many people are sacka. How 285 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: many people say safety is about you. I can do 286 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 4: whatever the fuck he wants if you put your mand 287 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 4: to it. You know what I mean. I'm just a 288 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: brag ass from Liverpool. I'm saving over the fucking world. 289 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: Not just some guy. 290 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: You're a pretty good athlete, but I get the sentiment. Yeah, 291 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: I enjoyed Volkanovski after one of his title fights, saying, 292 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: you know, I'm just the guy like uh from Australia. 293 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: I just work harder than everybody else. I'm like, yeah, 294 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: but you also used to be two hundred fifty pounds. 295 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: You can now get down to one forty five, which 296 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: is a little bit special. I don't think the average 297 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: human could do that. So Patty, you know, and again 298 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: thank you for you know, being an advocate for men's 299 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: mental health. 300 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: I think it's. 301 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: Extremely important and I hope you do continue to drive 302 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 2: those conversations. There are obviously a ton of fights every week, right, 303 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: we're here to break these down. I don't know how 304 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: much of a fight fan you are as opposed to 305 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: like a you know, a soccer fan. Obviously it's your job, 306 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: but not every athlete who fights in their sport is 307 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: particularly a fan of that sport. There's plenty of baseball 308 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: players who play baseball because they're good at it, but 309 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: they hate baseball. Makes a lot of sense, right, No, 310 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: are you watching the fights on a week to week basis? 311 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 2: And if so, we're just in particular because it's a 312 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: big fight coming up the sphere. Morab Debosh, Philly, Sean O'Malley, 313 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: any thoughts on that Band and White title matchup, which 314 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 2: I think the UFC fan base has been anticipating for 315 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: about a year and a half or two years at 316 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: this point. 317 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 4: David's isn't it Who's going to plant the game? Pup? 318 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 4: I see him Dana not fairly happy with football on 319 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: the other coat, Yeah see him few with over that 320 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: which maybe laugh but yeah, as I say, it's all 321 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 4: about it's all about his show and can use his 322 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 4: length and not against the wrestler, because we all know 323 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 4: what that game plan is, to come in shooting, take 324 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 4: him down, Mollo on the ground and just suffocate them. 325 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: But Sean needs to keep it rains. He users to shoes, 326 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: his punches and just as I say, it's through everything, 327 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 4: implement the game plan. 328 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 5: You can watching. You've got a teammate making his UFC 329 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 5: debut tomorrow, Nathan Fletcher. What can you tell us we 330 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 5: should look out for with him? What should we expect 331 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 5: when he gets in there. 332 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: Nathan's got very very very slick grappling and he's only 333 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: lost once professional and then he lost on the other 334 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 4: with a fighter, but he had a fractured leg in 335 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 4: that or a broken legs something like that. So I 336 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 4: think that's why the UFC have given one of the chances. 337 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 4: And he's fighting someone who never lost on the show. 338 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 4: But Nathan's got a lovely renated choke, He's got a 339 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 4: lovely he's a brilliant grappler, he's got lovely hot pressure, 340 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 4: and he's a battat as I say, just like me. 341 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 4: So I think he's going to get a real naked 342 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: choking final. 343 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: Is that your favorite technique in general? The RNA? 344 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: Is there something? Yeah? Flying siel, flying triangle. 345 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna look out for one of those 346 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: in the future from you in a fight. 347 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 4: And although they got some in the past level the 348 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 4: competition's got the best enough, so it might be. 349 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: Honest, Yeah, and putting yourself on your back, you know, 350 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: if you don't complete it isn't necessary for the best move. 351 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: I guess round winning purposes. I want to get your 352 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: reaction to to Israeltisania's fight against Vegas du Plessi from 353 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: last week. Did you did you think is he looked 354 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: a little bit slower declined relative to his previous form 355 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: And what do you think in general fighters should do 356 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: you know former champions legends of the sport? 357 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: Where does he go from here, like, what who does 358 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: he fight to get back to the top. Is there 359 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: even incentive, you know for him to do it at 360 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: this point? 361 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: Don't always could do what Max Aliva? Don't film because 362 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 4: everyone said thought about Max Aliva? Time everyone this, Marx's these, 363 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 4: everyone else who's being put in pause. He's lost to 364 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: his fault. So I'd say fight another fewtre Consent doesn't. 365 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: He could end up getting another title shot because not 366 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: Bell could change outs out of Sicklin beat to plus 367 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: see the song. Just just shoot him for the title 368 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: shot because he won the bells off him when he's 369 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 4: an absolute chewing for the title. 370 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably only needs one win to get back 371 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: into it, especially exactly. 372 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 4: He probably only only needs one win against Arthur Comms. 373 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: That's all with or, you know what I mean, someone 374 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: like that. 375 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: What about Connor McGregor. Are you gonna see him again? 376 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: I know, Michael Chandler, you know, sitting in the top 377 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: five of this division inactive. Maybe that's a guy you 378 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: call out if he doesn't end up getting the Connor 379 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: McGregor fight eventually, but waiting, I. 380 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 4: Really like Chandler fight Chanda. I'd glow to beat someone 381 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: else so I like Chieldla So Dan Hookert's that. Yeah, 382 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: I was thinking of the week perfectly to the title 383 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 4: it being well, you can't know, and then Charles olivate 384 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 4: this one, he's like one two, you know what I mean. 385 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 4: That's what O'Malley don. O'Malley went from like rank elevens 386 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: around one or something. 387 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he he went from eleven and he fought Yon 388 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: and then got the title shot off of that. Oh yeah, 389 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: that's that's kind of why I was thinking, you know, 390 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 2: I'll Dan Hooker making a uh making a number one 391 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: title contender fighters. 392 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 4: I was about to say, you have the one everyone 393 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 4: else with both of both in the Ronkins and full 394 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 4: for the title anyway, so to its number one, send 395 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 4: the fight if he really wants it. 396 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 5: So it seems a lot of times like the UFC 397 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 5: makes title fights. They've got the date on the calendar 398 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 5: right and they've got to fill it. Now that you're 399 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 5: up in the rankings, does that affect you? Are you 400 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 5: trying to stay ready in case you get that call 401 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 5: when something happens. That seems to be an important part 402 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 5: of the UFC process now is being ready on time? 403 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: What do you think I'm enjoying me so well. I'm 404 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 4: a ninety ky like. 405 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 5: No, we had to do some math in American over here, 406 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 5: try to figure out what that meant how far? But 407 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 5: I got there. No, you're good. 408 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 4: It's about what is it about? One six or so? 409 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: That's pretty standard for you, though between camps it's not. 410 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: You know, it's used to making if if a super 411 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: lightweight was ever created, it's super you know one sixty 412 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: five division was ever created. And I know you used 413 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: to fight at one forty five. You've moved up over 414 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: the years. 415 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 4: Right, noet, you love to be honest over and the next. 416 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: I keep fighting. So I'm like Teddy Fuld Teddy Fove. 417 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 4: But we're gonna have to move with all the ways. 418 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 4: People don't actually be allized how bigger like ways am 419 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 4: until they stand next to me. You know what I mean. 420 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 4: I'm not as big as like, not as tall as Jalen's, 421 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: but I'm wide on him. You know what I man. 422 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: Against Bobby was by how big he looked. Against Bobby 423 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: when you were standing at the cage, you looked he. 424 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 4: Looked like the father Ways. Next to me, you look 425 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 4: like Fatherways. Even when we're don't the stay down on 426 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 4: the on the tasty, I think he looked at me 427 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 4: it was like this much bigger and then on the 428 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 4: gonna be able to stay down. We have no seats, 429 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: so it's not like we had saying he's on and 430 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 4: I was still much bigger than him. I think he 431 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 4: got in his head a little bit, to be honest. 432 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: And I've seen a lot of you guys try to 433 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: grapple Bobby Green and the only person who's kept him 434 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: down like you did was this on the contrac So 435 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: I think that speaks to your squeeze and it speaks 436 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 2: to your top pressure pretty significantly. 437 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 4: Man. 438 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: You you were very impressive in that performance. 439 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 5: Look back a little bit. Is there anyone else from 440 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 5: your camp? We should be looking for anyone else? A 441 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 5: fight or two away from the UFC put us on 442 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 5: game now, so when we're getting out these betting picks later, 443 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 5: we can at least have the inside scoop on these guys. 444 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 4: There's multiple people, multiple and I've mentioned in me, mentioned 445 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 4: them in lift. I think I mentioned them after the 446 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 4: last fight. Addin' like the post fight media spilm thing 447 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 4: where you sit there with the mic luth Riley. I 448 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 4: think he's on everyone's really Dad. Anyway, he was meant 449 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 4: to fight on the contender sadies, but he had a 450 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 4: big cup full with his visa, so it's probably gonna 451 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 4: end up having another fighting cage. But he isn't then 452 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 4: doing someone else with the UFC because he has the 453 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 4: most entertaining fights ever. He's one of my sparing partners. 454 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 4: He's absolutely quality, so it's inevitable that you end up 455 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 4: in the UFC Adam Cullen with the lightweight and one 456 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: of Mice. 457 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: Bar the partners. 458 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 4: I think he's either eight and two or nine and 459 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 4: two now. One of us losses is for the decision 460 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: that I thought he won, and all his wins have finishes, 461 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: all but one of them in the first round. Sam, 462 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 4: I think it's probably no shem Rock. He's fighting on 463 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 4: a show called After Gone, another lightweight. I think he's 464 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: ten to one on one most of his winsor finishes 465 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: as well. Liam Getting's cage Udios bands and weight champion. 466 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 4: I think he's like some of his losses of that 467 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 4: flyweight where he was putting too much weight. I think 468 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: he's like twelve and four or something like that. But yeah, 469 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: he's got the bands on my title. He's probably gonna 470 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: end up in the UFC in the next few fights, 471 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 4: probably know the title defense. We've got a brilliant flyweights 472 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: in the gym Connor Wilson, but he still probably needs 473 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 4: to win a few more fights and maybe get the 474 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 4: cage Audios flyweight bell before they get to the UFC. 475 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: Off the top of me head, I think that's most 476 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 4: of the lads who have had a good few fights 477 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 4: on what I mean, and closer to the UFC than 478 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 4: some of the other lads. 479 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 5: Have you guys seen a big uptick in people one 480 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 5: joining your gym or just wanting to be MMA fighters 481 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 5: in general from Liverpool after you and Marley got on 482 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 5: the scene and kind of made it big. 483 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely maybe have a few lads coming down now. 484 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 4: We've had people coming down the years, to be honest, 485 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 4: but obviously we've made a bit more of an impact 486 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 4: and based on the same more and more people have 487 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 4: started coming down realize how good that saying is. We 488 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 4: have loads a lot to have come down from different gyms, 489 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 4: and even if they just come and to our mole 490 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: on and sessions and still go back there gyms. We 491 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 4: have so many people saying on the mast we'll probably 492 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: don't have to get a bigger gym in the next 493 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: year or two. 494 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: Patty, I want to take you back to your USA 495 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: tob real quick because I have a question about the 496 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: size of the cage, because your last five fights have 497 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 2: been in normal size octagons, but your debut is in 498 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: the APEX and the APEX cage is about thirty three 499 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: percent smaller than the normal cage. 500 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 3: Do you remember just feeling like a little bit tighter 501 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: in there? 502 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: Did feel things, you know, feel like a little bit 503 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: claustrophobic when you stepped into that octagon compared to the 504 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: other ones you fought in. 505 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 4: To be honest, I don't think so focused that as 506 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: you say. That was my daugu and I think all 507 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 4: other cages outside of the UFC are that Apex size anyway. 508 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 4: To be honest, I think that they're not only that 509 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 4: size anyway. I think only once to Swice in the 510 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 4: past of fours and like the big actual full size age. 511 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 4: So it was glad. It's no difference to me. As 512 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 4: I said before a fight to fight, the amount of 513 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 4: people were kept asking me leading on to that fighter, 514 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 4: they would you fighting it? Like four in the morning, 515 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 4: They're gonna start signing at a different time. So no, 516 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 4: do you think I'm getting up with two faties to 517 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 4: go and sign in the gym at four am? You 518 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 4: fucking mad? Have you been smoking crash for that? I 519 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 4: just singing that the normal time, I said to everyone, Lad, 520 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 4: when they when Mike fucking song comes on in that 521 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 4: fucking arena and everyone's scheam of my name, do you 522 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 4: think that I'm gonna feel tired at all? No, I'm 523 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 4: not gonna feel tired. So why would they change to 524 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: sign THELF? And it waveded what I mean, other people 525 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 4: did change the silent time. They didn't wait for them. 526 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: Even the wik of the fight. You didn't change your 527 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: body clock at all. You kept it consisting all the 528 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: way up to the fight. 529 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, with something that we'd stay up a little bit 530 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: later some night, like on the Wednesday, we went to 531 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 4: the twelve o'clock sureen on the Deadpool there's Wolverine, you 532 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 4: know what I mean, And then end up going to 533 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 4: sleep that night at like half three in the morning 534 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 4: on a Wednesday. And then they started me course a 535 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: little bit, so then we went to sleep a little 536 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 4: bit of our three at two three in the morning 537 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 4: there just because of the cut and then the Friday 538 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 4: and then go asleep till about half two to three 539 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: in the morning. Still I was meant to be fighting 540 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 4: at four. I would end up fighting at R four 541 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 4: And I hope people say, no, I'm going to stay 542 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 4: up all night. I'm no, definitely no. 543 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 2: What time did you finally shut down? Now after the fight, 544 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: when did you finally go to sleep? 545 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 4: I didn't get I didn't leave the venue till about 546 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 4: seven days seven, got back to the hotel about seven days. 547 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 4: He's something mad like that at the core to eight 548 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 4: because obviously after after a fight going to all your interviews, 549 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 4: I was doing all interviews and then got up back 550 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 4: into me changing room and it was like, oh, you're 551 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 4: gonna have to wait for the fight to finish. And 552 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 4: it was only on there was half way through the 553 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 4: second old table, the bal and Leon. We were just 554 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 4: sat there and that's when the fella come in and 555 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: like I said, oh, Dana said, he's given you to 556 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 4: under grand because we had a way for Diana's full 557 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 4: press conference. Then then I went to my press conference 558 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 4: and then we went buff the old self. So then 559 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 4: never go Buffield seals about twenty sees and then it 560 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 4: was a little about seven twenty tweason, and then I 561 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 4: was gonna stay in the hotels at eleven, but you 562 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: have to check helds at eleven. So me and me 563 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: and Blaize just went all, we'll get it, but if 564 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 4: you feel get home. One of the mates coming pift 565 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: us up. I was out of Oz for the boats 566 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: twenty puss and then I came in and so I 567 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 4: was a getting me at the almost a lot about 568 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 4: twenty minutes phenolog just rolling wrong, didn't get asleep, and 569 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 4: then I never ended up sleeping until Sunday night, late eleven. 570 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 4: Pay you know what I mean. That's zenly and swifted 571 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 4: me through the whole day. 572 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, see you stayed up all the way 573 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: through it and then it's not got is that? Is 574 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: that what people last question here? Is that just what 575 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: people don't realize. That's that's kind of what I've gathered. 576 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: People don't realize how much time you guys spend waiting 577 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: around for things, just like waiting for the next thing 578 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: in the locker room, waiting for interviews, waiting for the 579 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: next interview, waiting for your fight, waiting for waynes Day. 580 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: Are you just spending a lot of your time, just 581 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 3: waiting for things to happened. 582 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sitting there White and Whiting. It was funny 583 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 4: because obviously the Manchester God there was a decision, then 584 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 4: there was a knockout, then there was two submissions and 585 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 4: we were still in the hotel at this point to 586 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 4: its hands and Blaze and automanc system was like a 587 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 4: lot of these bonuses. I hope there's loads of decisions 588 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: and lot. There was seven decisions in a row, was 589 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 4: a lot of like heights. I'm like, what was it 590 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 4: at the start of the main card gieg and Donald 591 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 4: Dollon and CLD and RoboCop itceans then was like one 592 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 4: of that ones, one of these is getting facted with 593 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 4: the CLD fight, You're like, one of these is getting 594 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 4: finished out big fellas, And I was like, I said, 595 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 4: the seven decisions in a row, we left the wait 596 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: watch and then. 597 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: We did Yeah the worst so we're better. 598 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: Is the worst bet you can make, or the most 599 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 2: uncomfortable bet you can make, is betting on fights to 600 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: go to a decision, sitting there rooting for nothing to happen, 601 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: especially your fighters going for finishes. That's literally what you're 602 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: doing is a fighter looking for your performance bonus. You're 603 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: watching these fights going, please nobody finish because I want 604 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: fifty g's tonight when I finish my fight in your case, 605 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: about two hundred grand in England. 606 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that plays a little part life going a man 607 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: does if you've already got a nice finish on that cord, 608 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 4: like Nathan's going to be fighting only and he's probably 609 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 4: going to be fast fighting nice if he gets a 610 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: nice take down and it'll be an active choke or 611 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 4: a nice on a columlet or something like that. And 612 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 4: I'm m I'm praying that every fights off that it 613 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 4: goes the decision. 614 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, Patty, thank you so much for joining 615 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: us today. This is an absolute pleasure. 616 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: Thank you for time. Thank you for giving us some 617 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 3: extra time. 618 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: You've been in absolute pleasure to talk with and again, 619 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: I hope we have you back one day with the 620 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: UFC belt on the mantle behind you, talking about your 621 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: title fight and recapping your glory is in the UFC. 622 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: Patty to BATTYE best of the buck in the future. 623 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 4: Thank you very much for helping me. 624 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast Everybody is brought to you by 625 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: bet MGM used the bonus code action when signing up 626 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: to get up to fifteen hundred dollars back and bonus 627 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: bets if your first bet does not win. 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As I mentioned, going down if the UFC 636 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: APEX on Saturday Night main event in the Middlewake Division, Kyo, 637 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 2: Ohio minus two to fifty against Jared kennoneer Sie plus 638 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: two thirty, the over under four and a half rounds 639 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 2: a battle pickham price at minus one ten that goes 640 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: to decision prop juiced to plus one twenty. 641 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna go with the overs that goest the 642 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: decision here. 643 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: In fact, I kind of like either fighter either Kyle 644 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 2: at plus two ten by decision or Jared at plus 645 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: six hundred by decision. This seems like it should be 646 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: a fairly binary fight on paper, Kyle the grappler, Jared 647 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: the striker. But as we've talked about with other main events, 648 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 2: most of these fighters who make a demand of v 649 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 2: are well rounded enough in their lesser discipline to survive. 650 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: I think the likeliest finish here is probably Kyle Vias submission, 651 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 2: and I think that leads into Billy's bet to a degree, 652 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: which I also agree with. But Kyle hasn't shot a 653 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: takedown in his past two fights because he has an 654 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: ad spot guys who has had the striking advantage against. 655 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: I think here he has a clear grappling edge. Jared, 656 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: also forty years old, removed from a knee surgery, knocked 657 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: out kind of in his last fight. It was a 658 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: bad stoppage, but also he was hurt, you know, more 659 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: than he's been hurt in any UFC fight recently. It's 660 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: clearly a declining durability. Clearly athleticism starting to go a 661 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: little bit, especially off that knee surgery at age forty volume. 662 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: I think Jared is a champce to be competitive here. 663 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: You know, he landed a middleweight record two hundred and 664 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: forty fifty strikes in his last fight two fights ago 665 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: against Marvin Vatoria. But Marvin's also a punching back and 666 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: Kyle has much better movement. Kyle is going to neutralize better, 667 00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 2: get this fight to grappling positions on the ground. As 668 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: I said, I think the likeliest way it finishes is 669 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: Kyle via submission. I know Jared's power. I don't think 670 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: his power is as significant as people may think, considering 671 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: he used to fight at heavyweight, but Jared I went 672 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: back and watched his fight against Glover to Shara, that 673 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: was the last fight he had against a serious grappler. 674 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: Glover put him in a guillotine. 675 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: Prince had guillotine in the first round, also had him 676 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: in an arm triangle in the first round. 677 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: Jared defended both. 678 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: Glover got the ground in the second again, and Jared 679 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: was able to get up and land some shots we've seen. Jared, though, 680 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: taken down by Derek Brunson, held down until Derek tired out, 681 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: and then Derek got him again in the second round. 682 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: Seen Jared knocked down in that fight. I think Kyle 683 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: kind of has them covered here. I think he may 684 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 2: even be like a fifty to fifty striking fight if 685 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: he decides to strike it out. He has really good footwork, 686 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: really good movement, really good kicks to the legs and 687 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: to the body, and I think he will keep his 688 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: range enough that Jared is not going to be able 689 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: to land two hundred and fifty significant strikes. I think 690 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: the striking count will be close, and I think Kyle 691 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: has all the rappling upside, So the line to me 692 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: is about right. I think either fighter to win by 693 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: decision or the fight to go to decision at plus 694 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: one twenty would be the place for me, though, Billy, 695 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: you have Kyo minus five and a half on the 696 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: point spread. Rarely see you lay the points. Weird to 697 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: say lay the points in MMA, but rarely see you 698 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: lay the point spread with. 699 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: An MMA fighter. 700 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: Typically you're looking for a fighter to win around and 701 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: taking the plus three and a half. So minus five 702 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: and a half to me indicates that you think Kyo 703 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: by submission or Kyle finishing the fight is also much 704 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 2: likelier than Jared finishing. 705 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, And then so there's a couple of points 706 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 5: to it. One, you mentioned that it's probably close to 707 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 5: a fifty to fifty striking fight at this point. I 708 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 5: think that's fair or if anything, a little bit under 709 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 5: selling it on Kyo who it's hard to say because 710 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 5: he just thought Paul Craig and everyone looks like, you know, 711 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 5: a Muay Thai world champion against Paul Craig. But his 712 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 5: striking has improved. When we first got to the UFC, 713 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 5: we kind of thought of him as a pretty one 714 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 5: dimensional Brazilian grappler. Right, we've seen that a million times. 715 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 5: Each fight has looked a little bit better. He's been 716 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 5: in there with some guys who mostly strikers and very 717 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 5: least held his own Jared cannoneers forty with the torn 718 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 5: acl that you pointed out, so Cannon air known as 719 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 5: a striker, but certainly on the decline Kyle on the 720 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 5: way up. You know I've said it. We would talk 721 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 5: about these points spreads that you know, we like the 722 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 5: plus three and a half because a fighter only has 723 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 5: to win one round, where it's a lot harder to 724 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 5: cover the plus five and a half because winning one 725 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 5: round isn't enough. You're still down three points on each 726 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 5: judge's scorecard. You can even get away with one judge 727 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 5: three to two if you've got four to one on 728 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 5: the other ones. And I finally thought about well, if 729 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 5: I don't like the plus five and a half, ever, 730 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 5: that must mean I think the minus five and a 731 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 5: half is a solid way to play that, and it's 732 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 5: minus one twenty five, which is half of his money line. 733 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 5: I think Kyle looks like the better fighter in pretty 734 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 5: much all phases here. Cannoneer is just durable enough, and 735 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 5: the stoppage and the last one was just questionable enough 736 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 5: that I didn't want about on him. Inside the distance 737 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 5: that's only plus one fifty. It's really not that big 738 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 5: of a gap all things considered, it's about fifteen percent implied. 739 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 5: So because of that, I like the minus five and 740 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 5: a half. You obviously get that if he gets a 741 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 5: stoppage that's rolled in there, but a four to one 742 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 5: or you know, sweep on the scorecards covers that as well. 743 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 5: Just gives you a little bit more wiggle room on 744 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 5: losing a round, where if you're laying minus three and 745 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 5: a half in a three round fight, the fighter has 746 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 5: to be perfect this one. You know, Cannon here has 747 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 5: a big moment in there. We can still win the bet. Yeah. 748 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: I think Jared's going to be a value trapped this weekend. 749 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: I think he might make the fight competitive for stretches, 750 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: but I think ultimately Hyo ends up taking it. I 751 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: don't know if I want to lay that five and 752 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: a half personally, but I do think Kile is the side, 753 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: and I think it's Kyle or Pass. I'm just having 754 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: a difficult time between his ITD line and his decision prop. 755 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: But to me, he does seem like more of a 756 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 2: conservative fighter. Prioritize the control, don't let Jared get up, 757 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: you know, keep him on the ground. I think he 758 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: is the best control of anybody that Cannoniers fought. I 759 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: think he's the best cardio and control of anybody that cares. 760 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 5: You've said it in the past about other fighters, But 761 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 5: rounds that Cannoneer wins I think will be fairly competitive 762 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 5: because they're striking matches in rounds that Kyle wins will 763 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 5: be very obvious. So if we get one or two 764 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 5: judges swaye on those competitive rounds that could have gone 765 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 5: to cannon near that helps on the five and a 766 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 5: half points about a lot, There's just so many ways 767 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 5: for that one to hit. You've got way more out 768 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 5: versus you know, minus three and a half in a 769 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 5: three round fight where you pretty much have to be perfect. 770 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kennan here. You know, going back through his fights, 771 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: he tends to get up a lot. He's a big, 772 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: strong guy, but they're explosive get ups. They're not technical 773 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: get ups. He's not working his way progressing through positions 774 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: and then working his way up along the fence getting 775 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 2: back to his feet. He's just bigger and stronger, and 776 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: he pops up. I don't think that's going to work 777 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: against Kyle Bayo. So to me, Kyo's control is going 778 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: to be the determining factor in the fight. Move on 779 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: our fight of the night, Tabitha Ricci got minus one 780 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: twenty five currently against Angela Hill even money Angie coming 781 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: off of her first submission win in her career, and 782 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: I think that partially is making people think she has 783 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: improved or grappling and has a more competitive fight up 784 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: coming here with Ricci maybe on the ground, I don't 785 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 2: think so. I think Tabitha Ricci is the better grappler. 786 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: She's also ten years younger, a huge age advantage, lettuceism advantage. 787 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: You look at Ricci's last fight against Tisha Torres. Torres 788 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 2: is such a better athlete than Angelo Hill. She's much quicker, faster, 789 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: I don't think Hill is going to have anywhere near 790 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: the same speed or movement or evasiveness to get away 791 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 2: from Ricci if Ricci wants to grapple, and I think 792 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 2: Ricchie has all the grappling upside in his fight at 793 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 2: a pick up a price, Billy, do you see it 794 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: relatively the same way? And are you at all the 795 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 2: over here is very juiced up? Or you'd all interested 796 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: in betting Ricchi by submission? I think I think that's 797 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 2: the likeliest finished in this fight. So any props for 798 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: you or just reach you on the money line. 799 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can see the angle for Ricchi by submission. 800 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 5: But Angel Hill is very durable, right, She's not someone 801 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 5: who's easy to put away really in any methods. I 802 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 5: looked at the fight to go to a splitter majority 803 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 5: decision because that is very likely here horrible I shouldn't 804 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 5: say horrible lines, very sharp lines. I would say put 805 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 5: out by the books. It's like plus two hundred plus 806 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 5: two fifty. You can't bet on the split decision prop 807 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 5: and that. So with that said, that leaves me at 808 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 5: just Ricci. The biggest thing is the age. If we 809 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 5: just look at their resumes, Ricci is five and two 810 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 5: in the UFC. One of her losses was up at 811 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 5: one twenty five against Manon Firo in her debut, and 812 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 5: the other one was against Lupie goutten As, who Ricci 813 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 5: couldn't take down. Every time Tabitha Ricci has gotten a 814 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 5: take down, she has won the fight. We can argue 815 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 5: about the split decision against Tisha Pettington Ertititia Torres in 816 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 5: the last one. It was close, could have gone either way. 817 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 5: So you're telling me that she just needs to get 818 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 5: one takedown against you know, a thirty nine year old striker. Yes, 819 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 5: Angela Hill's takedown defense has improved in her grappling offense. 820 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 5: To be fair, Tabitha Ricci has been doing this since 821 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 5: she was six years old. Judo black belt, jiu jitsu 822 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 5: black belt. We're in the apex. That makes the clinch 823 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 5: game a little bit easier for the judo fighter, you know. 824 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 5: Kind of everything's point in that direction. Wish I would 825 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 5: have jumped on it sooner, because she actually opened as 826 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 5: a slight underdog, but minus won twenty or so. Whatever 827 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 5: the best you can get, I'm still more than okay with. 828 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned the apex. I think that's a 829 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: big advantage for Ricci having the fence a little bit tighter, 830 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 2: being able to clinch up against the fences that for takedowns. 831 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 3: She is one in one of the Apex. 832 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 2: But that first fight, as you mentioned, they view up 833 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: a weight division against Manon Fiorro, who knocked her out 834 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 2: because Manon Fiorro is one of the best fighters in 835 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: the world in her division, and Tabitha Ricci going up 836 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: a division to face a much more powerful striker in hindsight, 837 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: looks like a horrific matchup for her. I can't even 838 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: believe that fight was booked, honestly, in hindsight as her 839 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 2: debut that that seems borderline. 840 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 3: Criminal to be feeding a debutante to Minona Fioro. Let's 841 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: move on to. 842 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 5: We didn't know at the time, but yeah, in retrospect 843 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 5: it looks terrible. 844 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 2: In retrospects, that's a horrible booking, especially considering the hype 845 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: they've given Ricci since and like the way they've progressed 846 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: her career and matched her up. She's very evidently somebody 847 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 2: that they want to give shine to. So yeah, putting 848 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: two prospects they like against each other and having one 849 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 2: of them die was not ideal even though it was 850 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 2: up a division favorite underdogs of the night. We've got 851 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 2: kind of a consensus underdog and then also a consensus underdog. 852 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 3: Slash prop slash live bet. 853 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 2: So let's start off with the straight up underdog, James 854 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 2: on Top plus one eighty five going against Slava Claus. 855 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 2: Weat to slip Borschev. I love Slava Clause. He's been 856 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,959 Speaker 2: one of my favorite fighters since he entered the UFC. 857 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: I just love his style. I found it difficult to 858 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: beit against him because I think I'm a little bit 859 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: biased towards him. But he's offensively tremendous striker, beautiful footwork, timing, 860 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 2: his hands are great. He's the striking coach for Team 861 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: Alpha Male, so he's spent most of his training time 862 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 2: just getting wrestled by guys and teaching them how to strike. 863 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: But like defending takedowns NonStop. Unfortunately, he can't defend takedowns 864 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 2: in the UFC. 865 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 3: It didn't work. 866 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 2: Though he's a master of sport in boxing, spent tons 867 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 2: of time trying to defend takedowns, just can't do it. 868 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 2: On Top, though, is not going to try to wrestle hm, 869 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 2: so you're getting a striker versus striker fight here, which 870 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 2: you think would favor Slava. 871 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 3: But he's also like minus two to. 872 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 2: Fifty on the money line. I mean, I expected this 873 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: to be minus one fifty even maybe minus one ten, 874 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: and we would be getting recency bias against Slava losing 875 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: the wrestlers. And you're like, Okay, now we finally get 876 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: a good price on him as a striker. No, he's 877 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 2: overly priced as a striker. I think people have over 878 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: analyzed the fact that he's gotten bad matchups and now 879 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 2: he's coming back to his striking fight. He's been knocked 880 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: down in his past two fights, got knocked down by 881 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: Chase Hooper, and Billy is probably going to talk about 882 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 2: knockdown regression, but I think his shin is starting to go. 883 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty evident that y on Top is 884 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 2: the much more durable fighter, probably the more powerful fighter. 885 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 2: I think pretty clearly the more powerful fighter, but also 886 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: one inch taller, a four inch reach advantage, better hardware. 887 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: You're giving me plus one eighty five. I like you 888 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 2: on Top on the money line. I think he could 889 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 2: get a knockdown win a decision that way, and I 890 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: think I'll probably bet his knockout prop in some fashion 891 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: as well, considering the durability advantage and a likely brawl 892 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 2: in the apex in the smaller cage striker versus striker, Billy. 893 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 3: You're with me on you on Top, and I know 894 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 3: you've got another underdog as well. 895 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent with you on you on Top. 896 00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 5: I got him at plus two ten. Gave that one 897 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 5: out my luck ratings. You mentioned the recency bias about 898 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 5: Slava Clause, but I think this line is because of 899 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 5: the recency bias on Yon Top. We were all excited 900 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 5: about him on the Contender series. He came in, didn't 901 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 5: get the finish, but scored two knockdowns in that fight. 902 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 5: Then he gets submitted in the first round as a 903 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 5: massive favorite against Chris Padilla, some guy no one's ever 904 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 5: heard of. The reason I'm giving him somewhat of a 905 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 5: pass on that he had three different opponents book for 906 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 5: that fight. I'm guessing they told him at different points 907 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 5: that fight was off. You might have stopped training or 908 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 5: relaxed or just got out of that mindset. Oh no, wait, 909 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 5: we got a new guy. But this guy's a totally 910 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 5: different style. Now, this guy is a totally different style 911 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 5: that's a lot to throw at him, and then he's 912 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 5: fighting someone who had nothing to lose, kind of coming in. 913 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 5: If you're a padilla, you know you get another shot 914 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 5: anyway when you do the UFC a favor, So like, 915 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 5: screw it, let's go for it. I'm willing to give 916 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 5: him a pass on that. And then it goes back 917 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 5: to everything you said about the striking. The hardware plenty younger. 918 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 5: I want to say six or seven years, maybe even 919 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 5: more than that if we check real quick, Yeah, a 920 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 5: little over seven years younger. Speed and quickness should be 921 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 5: their height reach and you're getting them at a big 922 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 5: plus money, so not as good of a technical striker 923 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 5: as Slava Clause, but I think we can overcome that. 924 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 5: And then the under other underdog, you're betting them straight up. 925 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 5: So I'll let you lead the way on GM three 926 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 5: because I've got some different different angles there. 927 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll save yours for the end. 928 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, dude, do you want to mention like the 929 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: Apex likelier to be a brawl two strikers taking the 930 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 2: younger guy, better hardware. All of that seems to line up. 931 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: I literally expected this line to be minus one ten 932 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: and expected to be betting Slava at minus one ten, 933 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 2: projecting him to be like minus one forty. You know, 934 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 2: but getting plus one eighty five on you on top, 935 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 2: I think is certainly decided. It's purely a pricing play 936 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 2: for me. Before we go any further, quick announcement about 937 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 2: Action Pro subscriptions. If you don't have Action Pro yet, 938 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: now is the perfect time. Subscribers can get Action Expert 939 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 2: picks in real time. 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Gerald Mihershard the 950 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 2: third UFC's all time leader in middleweight submissions. He also 951 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 2: is the highest finish rate in UFC history. Nobody has 952 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: ever finished all eleven of their UFC victories. GM three 953 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 2: has done that, so I think you probably just take 954 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 2: GM three he's finished props or his his ITD lines 955 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 2: or his submission prop at five to one instead of 956 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: his money line. But I think there's probably value on 957 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 2: his money line. It's just he finishes all of his opponents, 958 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: but he does tend to do it a lot in 959 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 2: round three coming back, and that is the type of 960 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 2: matchup he is here against Edmond Shabazian because Shabazian is 961 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 2: a front runner. He's typically finishing opponents in round one. 962 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 2: Even his last fight against aj Dobson, he was losing 963 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: minutes in that fight until he ko Dobson. Dobson had 964 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 2: I think Dobson might have been the underdog pre fight, 965 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 2: but the live line was ticking towards Dobson. I was 966 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 2: going to bet Dobson live after round one because I 967 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 2: always bet every fighter, every opponent against Shabazian. Both Shabazian 968 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 2: brothers actually live after round one. Neither of them have 969 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 2: good cardio. 970 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 3: And Shabazian tends to quit. You know, he's a much 971 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 3: better hammer than he has a nail, and the moment 972 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 3: he starts facing adversity, he quits. 973 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: He has bad cardio. His submission defense like goes away. 974 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 2: Once he starts getting hit with hammer fists on the ground, 975 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 2: he turns into a white belt. So I think GM 976 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 2: three absolutely live here to get a submission at any 977 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 2: time five to one, because Evan could shoot takedowns, get 978 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 2: stuck into a team whatever in the first round. But 979 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 2: I think Edmond's likely winning the first round. He's the 980 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 2: better athlete, he's younger, he's bigger, He hits hard, and 981 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 2: if he finishes GM three in the same way that 982 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 2: Hamzad finished GM three, I won't be shocked. 983 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 4: You know. 984 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 3: He hits really hard. 985 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 2: And even though GM three has survived a lot of fights, 986 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 2: a lot of damage, it's easier. It seems easier, seems easier. 987 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 2: I want somebody to do a study on this, but 988 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: it seems easier to clip somebody in like the first 989 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 2: two and a half minutes of the fight, and once 990 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,280 Speaker 2: they start getting hit and like use to the power 991 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,439 Speaker 2: and they get into the fight, like they settle down 992 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 2: and the chin seem to like solidify, but almost like 993 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 2: that first strike is like there could be like a 994 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 2: shock factor, and Edmund hits really hard. So if Edmund 995 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 2: just ices him on the first exchange, I won't be shocked, 996 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 2: and I think that's why the live angle is probably 997 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,439 Speaker 2: best because Edmund's round is likely round one, but GM 998 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: three takes over here pretty consistently in rounds two. In 999 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 2: rounds three, his round two odds twelve to one, is 1000 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 2: round three odds eighteen to one. I like both of 1001 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 2: those a lot. Also, as they said, like the submission 1002 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 2: prop and his live line after round one. But if 1003 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: you want to fire a little bit plus two fifty 1004 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 2: money line pre fight, I'm not going to argue against it. Billy, 1005 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 2: you're taking Neil Magni on the point spread plus three 1006 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 2: and a half at a big, juicy number against Michael Morales. 1007 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: I kind of like this fight to go to a 1008 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 2: decision at minus one forty two, So I'm with you. 1009 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 2: I think the line is crazy. Michael Morales, to me, though, 1010 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 2: is not a potent finisher. I don't even know what 1011 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 2: he's particularly good at. He's very athletic. I think he's 1012 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 2: a mega prospect, but also I haven't seen the skill 1013 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 2: set come together, and I don't aside from like just 1014 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 2: landing one big power punch, I don't know where he finishes. 1015 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 3: Neil Magne consistently. 1016 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, Neil Magni. Really, when he gets finished, it's by 1017 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 5: elite grapplers and pretty much no one else. I'm not 1018 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 5: digging through all ninety six of his UFC fights to 1019 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 5: confirm or deny that, but at least in recent memory, 1020 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 5: and it's one of them. How many times do we 1021 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 5: have to learn this lesson with Neil Magni? 1022 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 4: Right? 1023 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 5: Like I made this exact same bat when he fought 1024 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 5: proper Mike Malott in Canada. Magne ended up winning that 1025 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 5: one outright, I still thought the plus three and a 1026 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 5: half was the right side. He's not just going to 1027 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 5: lie down to these prospects, right, He's he's not going 1028 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 5: to win about himself. I think it's probably fairly safe 1029 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 5: to say at this point Neil Magni's career, but he's 1030 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 5: a tough out for anyone Michael Morale's last two fights 1031 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 5: Max Griffin and Jake Matthews. He lost one round in 1032 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 5: both of those two fights. I think Magni would be 1033 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 5: a pretty heavy favorite against either of those guys at 1034 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 5: this point. Magni, with his height and length, is going 1035 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 5: to be a difficult matchup for Morales. Morales has a 1036 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 5: seventy nine injured, which is probably longer than everyone else 1037 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 5: he's ever fought. Now he's in there with a guy 1038 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 5: who can match that, if not exceeded a little bit. 1039 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 5: That's going to be tricky. And yeah, I forget who 1040 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 5: it was. Last week there was another prospect, Oh, the 1041 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 5: Dan Hooker fight against Camera. Similar situation is that one. 1042 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 5: It's hard for these guys to cover and win all 1043 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 5: three rounds, just like we talked about with the five 1044 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 5: round versus three round thing. You just need one takedown 1045 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 5: or one big moment for Magni to cover this three 1046 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 5: and a half. And then I'm going to put like 1047 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 5: point one point two units on his money line. That 1048 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 5: is mainly like a mental health protection on my end, 1049 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 5: because I should have bet Hooker's money line. I should 1050 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,879 Speaker 5: have bet Magne's money line the last time I took 1051 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 5: this bet. So anytime I'm taking these big underdogs on 1052 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 5: plus three and a half, I'm put in point one 1053 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 5: point two units on the money line. You feel really 1054 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 5: smart when they went outright, but then you think about 1055 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 5: it for a second, go oh, I should have made 1056 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 5: so much more money. So yeah, that's how I'm playing 1057 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 5: this one. I would not at all be surprised if 1058 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 5: Magni wins the split decision or a close decision, but 1059 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 5: feel a lot better. Plus three and a half is 1060 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 5: two to one odds, so you can't really beat that. 1061 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 3: What a performance by Dan Hooker that got me up 1062 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 3: and off the couch. 1063 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 2: It's rare that I'm watching a fight by myself and 1064 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, holy shit, this performance without a finish occurring 1065 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: with that with just like a guy showing great and 1066 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 2: determination and just like getting the crap. What a performance 1067 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 2: by Dan Hooker. I would really like to see him 1068 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,240 Speaker 2: against Patty. I know we discussed him briefly against you know, Patty, 1069 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 2: maybe stepping up taking that number five spot Er, Like 1070 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 2: if they want to accelerate Patty to title contention, I 1071 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 2: think that'd be a really interesting fight. I know Hooker 1072 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 2: is the shriking advantage, but Patty hits really hard. I 1073 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 2: don't trust Hooker's chin at this point in his career, 1074 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 2: and I think Patty is the better grappler than Gamra 1075 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 2: and I think Gamrock is the better wrestler. But if 1076 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 2: Patty gets the fight to the ground, I think he 1077 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 2: is a chance of finishing the fight against Hooker, unlike Gamroth. 1078 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 2: So that's kind of an interesting fight to me, you know, 1079 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 2: the more I've thought about it, I'd really like to 1080 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 2: see that match of any any interesting seeing Hooker versus 1081 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 2: Patty from your perspective, Billy. 1082 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 5: I'd be a good one. You mentioned Chandler versus Patty 1083 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 5: got me really excited, but he shot that one down 1084 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 5: real fast. So you know, as the grappling nerd that 1085 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 5: I am kind over as Patty makes us on of sense, 1086 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 5: I want to see those two guys rolling around. You know, 1087 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 5: Striker verse Grappler's always a little bit scary when you're 1088 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 5: rooting for the grappler. 1089 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, Patty versus Chanda would be elite. It seemed 1090 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 2: like they have a friendly relationship and Patty has some 1091 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 2: respect for him, and I don't think that one's going 1092 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 2: to end up happening. Let's talk some best bets for 1093 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 2: this card, maybe finishing out with a live bet or 1094 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 2: a big prop for you as well. I'm gonna be 1095 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 2: about two because honestly, I think Ricci's my best bet. 1096 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 2: I made Ricci's line like minus one sixty. I better 1097 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 2: at minus one fifteen last night. It is not in 1098 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 2: the app yet. I will track her at best available odds, 1099 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 2: which I believe her minus one twenty two. I think 1100 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 2: Ricchie should be minus one fifty. I think Ricci wins 1101 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 2: that fight sixty percent of the time. I think she's 1102 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 2: the best value on the card, full stop. Two other 1103 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 2: bets I like Franklin or Francis fire Marshall minus one forty. 1104 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 2: This was a short notice booking. Marshall got massacred in 1105 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 2: his last fight against Isaac Dulgarian in round one. That's 1106 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 2: what Dulgarian does the pretty much every fighter he faced Marshall. 1107 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 2: I bet Marshall in that fight. I'm pretty sure obviously 1108 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 2: terrible bet in hindsight, but I do think he's a 1109 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 2: very good prospect, and I just think that performance aged 1110 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 2: horribly and is giving a little bit of value to 1111 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 2: his money line. There's clearly two tiers of fighters who 1112 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 2: come from Sarah Lango or law MMA. On Long Island, 1113 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 2: you have your Mirovs, you have your al Jamaine Sterlings, 1114 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 2: but then you have your Grigoro sharl Lampos's and your 1115 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 2: Nazem Sadikov's. And I do think Sadikov is in a 1116 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 2: lower tier, and I think Marshall is the better prospect 1117 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 2: of the two. I think Marshall probably wins this fight 1118 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 2: two out of three times, so getting him at about 1119 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 2: minus one forty minus one fifty seems like a decent 1120 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 2: bet for me. And then the other fight, I think 1121 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 2: there's value on Cavalcanti against Nunez in the woman's bandon 1122 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 2: weight division. Nunaz is a very popular underdog selection this week. 1123 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 2: That's why I'm on Cavalcanti. This is not a tape thing. 1124 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 2: Just Nunas is being bet very heavily, and she's so 1125 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 2: much smaller. She's six inches shorter, she's at a three 1126 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 2: inch reach discrepancy, and by the way, Cavalcanti landed sixty 1127 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,879 Speaker 2: three leg kicks in her UFC debut at her last fight. 1128 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 2: She's gonna kick the shit at a Nunez here from range. 1129 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 2: Nunaz powerful, but she just kind of spams overhands and 1130 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 2: she doesn't go for takedowns offensively, so I think she 1131 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 2: just gets picked apart for fifteen minutes, I think cabal 1132 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 2: Conti tri triples are up on volume. If she doesn't 1133 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 2: get KOed, I think she wins a decision pretty comfortably 1134 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 2: minus one o five for cabal Conti by decision minus 1135 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 2: one minus won thirty five for round three er decision 1136 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 2: I would consider because Nonez is cutting from one forty 1137 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 2: five to one thirty five, so I don't know what 1138 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 2: the gas tank looks like. Might want some coverage in 1139 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 2: round three, Billy, any thoughts for you on caval Conte Nunez, 1140 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 2: Any thoughts for you on Marshall and Sadikov And if not, 1141 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 2: we're an addition. 1142 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 3: Give me your final bet before he got it out 1143 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 3: of here. 1144 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, love Cavalcanti. The one thing I think Josie Nuna 1145 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 5: has been forced to go down to one thirty five 1146 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 5: is actually probably a good thing for her at five 1147 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 5: foot two, like having her fight father with she like 1148 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 5: physically couldn't reach some of her opponents, which you know 1149 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 5: obviously makes it hard to knock him out. I still 1150 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 5: like kaval Kati. I probably not betting this myself, but 1151 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 5: your angle would be how I would Marshall versus Bazuka 1152 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 5: by the way, not Sadi cough. 1153 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 2: Ah, yes, my bad, Yesuka, Sadikoff and Bazuka in the 1154 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 2: same the same tier of Sarah Lango fighter for me, 1155 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,439 Speaker 2: And yes, that's that's why I mean. I basically picked 1156 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 2: them up in my head at this point, But yeah, 1157 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 2: I don't trust either guy, and I think they're both 1158 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 2: lower level for their division. 1159 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 5: I will continue as long as you know the price 1160 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 5: is reasonable to get bet against Dennis Bozuka because you 1161 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 5: once said his best skill is trying really hard, which 1162 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 5: is great, Like I'd like you to try hard. But 1163 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 5: if that's your best thing, we're in for a long night. 1164 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 2: No. 1165 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, My my actual best bat is probably the richiar 1166 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 5: on top I put in here Meershart in round three 1167 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 5: plus eighteen hundred four of his eleven UFC wins have 1168 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 5: been third round submissions. He he's the Homer s in 1169 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 5: the episode where he was a boxer. That's his game plan. 1170 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 5: He's just gonna let you punch him until he gets 1171 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 5: tired and then probably submit you. Usually it's round three. 1172 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,359 Speaker 5: You know, we talked about Shabazi and struggling his fights 1173 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 5: go deep. I think the better way to play it 1174 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 5: is live. I'm not faulting anyone who's not watching this 1175 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 5: relatively lackluster UFC event live to do that. So GM 1176 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 5: three is a live bet, depending what the price is, 1177 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 5: might actually be my favorite bet. Schabazi and is one 1178 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 5: in three win fights make it to the third rounder later. 1179 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 5: That one win was a split decision that he might 1180 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 5: not have even earned. So it's one of those things. 1181 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 5: If we get that far, we could see GM three 1182 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 5: similar to his round three pre fight line. We could 1183 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 5: see it at plus one thousand or longer if he 1184 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 5: gets hit hard in the first round and he's just 1185 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 5: gonna be so much better down the stretch than Schabasi, 1186 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 5: and so the live angle would be something of a 1187 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 5: best bet depending on the price we get. Round three 1188 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 5: is a nice little sprinkle. Totally with you on your 1189 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,720 Speaker 5: analysis there. If he's gonna win it, he's gonna survive 1190 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 5: a bunch of damage and get some ugly slow submission 1191 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 5: in the third round against the totally gast upon it. 1192 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 2: I have a weird feeling he's gonna win a decision, 1193 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 2: which is why I like the live angle a lot, 1194 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 2: why I like the money line a little bit too. 1195 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 2: I know, I said all eleven of his fights have 1196 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 2: been inside the distance in the UFC, no fighter has 1197 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 2: ever done that, ten of eleven by submission. That submission 1198 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,839 Speaker 2: prop at five to one very tempting. I just get 1199 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 2: a weird feeling he's going to back control Shabazi and 1200 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 2: in the third round ended up taking the second and 1201 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 2: third rounds of winning decisions. So make sure you have 1202 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 2: some money line, whether it's pre fight or live. But 1203 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 2: I definitely think the live angle on mirror Shart is 1204 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 2: elite the right spot. Just have some coverage with round 1205 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 2: two and round three props as well, so you can 1206 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 2: scream at the TV when he doesn't finish Shabazian in 1207 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 2: the third round. But he will try to, believe me, 1208 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 2: GM three will try to. There's probably not been a 1209 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 2: better round three finisher in the sport over the past 1210 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 2: decade or so than Gerald Mihershart. As I said, most 1211 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:54,240 Speaker 2: submission wins the middleweight history, highest submission rate in UFC 1212 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 2: history aside from Hoist Grazy, you know, ten of eleven fights, 1213 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,959 Speaker 2: Hoyst Grazy finished ninety percent of his fights by submit. 1214 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 2: I think he had one decision in GM three has 1215 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 2: the one knockout on top of nine or ten submissions. 1216 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, very impressive. A very underrated fighter. Continuing to 1217 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 2: get older though, and I think the athleticism differential here 1218 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,280 Speaker 2: in the first round is going to be pretty drastic, 1219 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,320 Speaker 2: and if he gets ice like hamzat Icema wouldn't be surprised. 1220 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 3: But that'll do it for us. 1221 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 2: For the UFC betting preview on the Action Network podcast 1222 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 2: presented by BETMGM. 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