1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: What's up everybody walking to move the sticks? DJ, Bucky 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: back with you. We got a fun show today. How 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: you doing, buck Man? I'm good, DJ. Um. You know 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: this would be Combine week, Uh normal. I know it's 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: weird circumstances. But we're not there, sir. We're not face 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: the base, we're not in Indianapolis. We're not getting ready 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: to watch workouts. We're not pounding around with a bunch 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: of our buddies and kind of having these conversations that 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: take place at what I call the official NFL Scouts 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: and Coaches Convention. Um, so it's different. It is a 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: different it's a different times. This would definitely be a 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: different process as we go for Yeah, we we uh 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: creatures of habit right on the scouting side of things. 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: You're kind of your body is telling you you should 16 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: you should be in Indianapolis, shouldn't be home right now. 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: So it's weird. But um, there's still a lot of 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: a lot of work that needs to be done here 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: on these guys. So we're just doing it from home. 20 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna have fun show today. We're gonna have one 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: of our favorite guests, UH Scott Sadderfield, head coach at 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: louis Bill is gonna join us to talk about some 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: of their players at Louisville as well as, uh, you know, 24 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: kind of what's going on in college football landscape. And 25 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go over my new Top fifty which 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: just came out, So we'll get to that in just 27 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: a second. But I wanted to ask if you saw 28 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: the uh the video clip of Troy Aikman go on 29 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: to Dion's uh deon's first game as head coach at 30 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: Jackson State. Did you see that? Yeah, I did see it. 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: I thought it was really cool, man, I think I 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: thought it was really cool for Troy Agman to go 33 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: down to Jackson, Mississippi and support his teammate and his 34 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: coaching debut. And like I had a chance to watch 35 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: the game. I watched the game like they smoked The 36 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: team that they were playing was an ai A team, right, 37 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: it was. It was an n ai team. They smoked 38 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: him or whatever. And then I had a chance to 39 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: talk to Dennis Thurman as his defensive coordinated So I 40 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: talked to DT yesterday and he just talked about, hey, man, 41 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: it's a different kind of ball like obviously coming from 42 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: coming from the NFL to then playing in a swag 43 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: like it's it's a little different. But they're having a 44 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: good time and they're trying to raise the not only 45 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: the profile of the program, but they're trying to win games, 46 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: and they look pretty good in the debut. We'll see 47 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: how how it plays out the rest of the season, 48 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: but I think it was exciting for Dion kind of 49 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: put his feet in the grass and be the Hay 50 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: coach because he's coached a long time in the high 51 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: school ranks. College is different, but it was a very 52 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: successful debut form There was a lot of take a 53 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: lot to take away from that, right, So you had 54 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: the game which was dominated, You had Trayman showing up. 55 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: You had like the stuff happened with with Primes jewelry 56 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: which was stolen but then I guess recovered. I don't, 57 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened there, But to me, the 58 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway buck did you see the jug of water 59 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: that Troyan was carrying with him? Ordered it? I ordered? 60 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: I looked on aline of like, holy crap, am I 61 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be drinking that much water to day? And 62 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think, I think that's right. So I 63 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: ordered this thing, and this thing I got buck It 64 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: even has like the time of day like you're supposed 65 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: to have, like it's nine am, you should be I'm 66 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: already behind. I'm already about behind. Okay, So then my 67 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: thing would be dj like does it stay cold by 68 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: the end of the day? Are you can be drinking 69 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: lukewarm water? Like I'm going at yes? Like like for me, 70 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm a big a lot of ice in my water. 71 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: I like a very great cald. I know some people 72 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: like room temperature water of your old school because you 73 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: you always have like the mason jar like you are 74 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: not my daughter. My daughter is just like conservationist, Like 75 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: she's always like, oh no, we have to make sure 76 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: that we take things and let's recycle this, and let's 77 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: take this and we're gonna make this a glass. And 78 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm just like, okay, what what whatever? Like just just 79 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: you might have like a hydro flask like everybody else 80 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: you know he's got. Yeah, I mean that's the cracker barrel. Yeah, 81 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: that's what I'm I'm tasked with. Yeah, like kind of 82 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: old schools in that regard, for sure. I love it. Um, 83 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: all right, hey, before we get to coach Satterfield, let's 84 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: jump in a little bit on top fifty update. I 85 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: tweeted this out by the way, um Man Bucket, I 86 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: don't know how you are this year, but I've found 87 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: this this is challenging. Man, Like, uh, in terms of 88 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: these guys, You're watching some twenty tape on some guys, 89 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: You're watching some nineteen tape upon other guys. Um, you know, 90 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: I I might be watching nineteen tape. And then then 91 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: you get you hear rumors and reports like this guy's 92 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: twenty pounds heavier, this guy has gotten faster, He's gonna 93 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: be a different human being, you know than the guy 94 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: that that I'm watching. So you've got that. Then you've 95 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: got you know, normally when you're out at All Star Games, UM, 96 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: you're kind of getting more background on the kids, like rolls. Yeah, 97 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm flying blind on so many of 98 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: these kids with background stuff. So then I start some 99 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: of that starts trickling in and you're like, oh jeez, 100 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: And you talk to one guy this this players is 101 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: a character reject. You talk to another team like now 102 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: where we're fine with him? I mean, it just seems 103 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: like it's all over the place. And then the other thing, 104 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: which which I tweeted out, is I feel like I'm 105 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: going through I was going through pass rushers and kind 106 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: of trying to comb through those, and it's like everybody 107 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: six three to forty. And I know that once we 108 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: officially get some measurements on these guys, some of these 109 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be right at six two, some are 110 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: gonna be six three and a half, some are gonna 111 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: be to thirty five, some are gonna be too fifty. Like, 112 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: it's just it's hard, man, DJ. What's hard about it? Um, 113 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: We're being asked to continue to comb through this list, 114 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: but there aren't anything to necessarily justify some of the movement. Right, 115 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: normally we would have Okay, now I got to the combine, 116 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: I've been around them. I saw him the workouts, I 117 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: got his full measurables. Now I can kind of tweak 118 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: the list or whatever. Oh, now we're going to the 119 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: pro day circuit. I saw him do some things that 120 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to see to kind of clear up some 121 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: of the questions that I had off of the tape. 122 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: We don't necessarily have that same level of access to 123 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: these guys. Because we don't see it, and so we 124 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: can talk about judging off the tape, But the tape 125 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: is even subjective because you have some guys you're judging 126 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: off twenty nineteen others you're judging off. Is it fair 127 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: to the guys that the twenty nineteen guys haven't participated, 128 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: so they haven't been exposed to more opportunities to either 129 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: be victimized or those things. And then in nineteen guys 130 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: we give them a bump and say that they will 131 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: automatically improve over the next year with more playing time 132 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: and experience and development. This is the craziest draft that 133 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: we will have participated in because last year is different 134 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: because the work was done. This year it's not. And 135 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: I think when we look back at this draft class, 136 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some wild swings and misses go back, like, man, 137 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: I can't believe that guy was the first round or whatever, 138 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: and uh, it's different. I will say this because I 139 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: was studying. I think I saw your tweet. I think 140 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: you did a tweet about a mom ros Yeah, okay, 141 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: so DJ, I'm just thinking, right, there's so many pass 142 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: catchers good. I mean, there's so like Elijah more from 143 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Old Miss like, I feel like there's not enough time 144 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: to talk about all the guys who could be good 145 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: in this draft class. I think up until the last 146 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: day of the we'll be talking about Oh yo, let 147 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: me mention this. This receiver here is also it is 148 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: a man. It's a very unique and challenging set of 149 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: circumstances when it comes to evaluating, because you're just trying 150 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: to put it all together. I was texting with our 151 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: buddy David Shaw, but Stanford did the day because I 152 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: was kind of going through some of those white outs 153 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: that were talking about, and I said, Coach, one of 154 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: these high school receivers gonna realize, go get in the 155 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: dB line. Man. We talked about it every year. They're 156 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: there are a million of these receivers, a million of them. 157 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: Go play corner, d J. I don't I don't understand it. 158 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: It's one of the sources of frustration when you go 159 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: to camps and you look at what has taken place 160 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: and you see all these wide receivers and I see 161 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: these guys, you know, like we've seen it. Like typically 162 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: your top ten receivers are the Megatron type right body, 163 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: beautiful six two six three or taller. They can do 164 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: all these things, and then I see the six ft 165 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: five eleven wide receivers. I'm like, dude, you know if 166 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: you played corner, if you just backfed a little bit 167 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: and flashed a little as six ft, the value that 168 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: you have at defensive back. I just wonder, I wonder 169 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: what I wonder how long it would take for these 170 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: guys to realize, like, man, there's so many more opportunities 171 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: on the defense of the ball. If you are a 172 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: guy that is right around six ft or taller attempting 173 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: to play cornerback, like you have a shot if you 174 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: can just move, if you can walk into gum, it 175 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: gives you an opportunity to get on the field because 176 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: everyone is looking forward six ft or taller corner. Yeah, 177 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: it's true. So again, one of these days, some of 178 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: these high school kids are gonna figure that thing out. Um. 179 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: I do want to touch on something you just said 180 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: though a minute ago before we get into some of 181 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: the list in here and some of the changes. But 182 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, people people will ask a question kind of 183 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: you brought up how do you have movement during this 184 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: time of the year. These guys haven't played any more games, 185 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: Like how do they move up and down the list, 186 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: and this is the I've used a different analogy in 187 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: the past. I talked about get him in the neighborhood, 188 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: get him in the right house. But this is kind 189 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: of where I am now this year. This is my 190 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: mind is remember when you were a kid, you have 191 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: like a piggy bank, and you you dumped the piggy bank. 192 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: You put the pennies over here, the dimes, the nickels, 193 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: the quarters. Like that to me, like, that's I'm still 194 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm still in that process. I'm just picking him. I'm 195 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: picking him out of the out of the jar and saying, Okay, 196 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: he's a penny, he's a nickel, he's a dime. And 197 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: then eventually I'm gonna go get to the to the dimes, 198 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go sort him by the date, you 199 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like then I can get him. 200 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: But I still feel like I just I'm putting clusters. 201 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm still putting clusters together, and then I have you know, 202 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: I get a little bit bored of just kind of 203 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: going through a position. So I'll go back and say, 204 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: you know what, let me go look at these top 205 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: three or four receivers again and just look at just 206 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: those guys, not in a sea of thirty white outs, 207 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: but just these three, and then you can kind of 208 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: say okay, which gets me to my first point on 209 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: my top fifty. I ended up moving Jail and Waddle 210 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: up to the number two receiver spot, which I think 211 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: is where you have them have him as well. So 212 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: he moves up to number six on my overall board. 213 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: But I went back and watched all of his twenty 214 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: nineteen targets together with what we saw this year, and 215 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: I was like, this dude is he's got some freaky 216 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: stuff to him. Man, Like he is really really talented kid, 217 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: a special kid. And I kind of was comparing him 218 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: to the guys we had last year from Alabama. I 219 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: don't know where you are, Buck, but to me, if 220 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: you put Judy and Ruggs, Davante Smith Waddle, I thought 221 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: Waddles was the most impressive tape of any of the four. Yeah, 222 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: I think so, because I think he's a combination of 223 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: Judy and Rugues. He gives you the explosives that Ruggs 224 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: Ruggs displayed, but he also has some of the route 225 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: runnability that Jerry Judy, and so when I look at him, 226 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: I wrote down in my nose, man, he is the 227 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: best run after catch playmaker in the draft. Like when 228 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: you put the ball in his hands in open field, 229 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: like when he catches it on the move, it is 230 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: six um DJ when you go when you look at 231 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: his yards per catch, so yeah, so it's over. I 232 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: mean it's twenty one one this year, but for his 233 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: careers it's it's over eighteen. And when you think about 234 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: big play specialists, those guys always are in that range. 235 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: Like for their career they always average seventeen eighteen yards 236 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: per catch. I mean you talk about big, explosive chunk plays, 237 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: not all just a I run past people on the vertical, 238 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: but I catch it and I can wiggle and maneuvering 239 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: and whatever. He puts up big yardage, and I like 240 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: his toughness. There's a lot to like about it. And 241 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: when those two guys were playing together at Alabama, DeVante 242 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: Smith and Jalen Wadder at the beginning of the year, 243 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle was the number one And I know Stark 244 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: has come on Reckon and say like, oh, you know, 245 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: it was one A and one B. But if you 246 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: just just follow the ball, the ball was going to 247 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: waddle and then when Waddle exit stage right, DeVante Smith 248 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: takes it and goes um to the next level. And 249 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: that's not the disparage whatever, but that's just looking at it. 250 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: That's just how it played out. And I just think 251 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: he's a fantastic prospect worthy of being up there where 252 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: you have them. Yeah, and and let's put numbers to it, 253 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: and I tweeted this out. Um, when you look at 254 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: the numbers when they played together this year, in those 255 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: four games, targets Smith had forty seven, Waddle only twenty nine, 256 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: So more targets for Smith, receptions thirty eight for Smith 257 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: for Waddle, but yards Smith had four eight three, Waddle 258 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: had five fifty seven, So Smith was averaging twelve point 259 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: seven Waddle twenty two point three. They each had four touchdowns. 260 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: And you add on top of that, um, Look, they 261 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: can both return, but Waddle is a dynamic you know, 262 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: kickoff and and punt returner, which I think around the 263 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: league that carries less value because you just see left 264 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: fewer returns. With the way the games played right now, 265 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't have as much weight as it would maybe 266 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: ten ten years ago. But it is a nice bonus 267 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: that he can do that. And I love the fact 268 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: you've always talked about it, from going back to the 269 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: Green Bay days, Ron wolf Tree, you guys always valued 270 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: those guys that had kick return ability as receivers just 271 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: because it shows you what they do after the catch. Yeah, 272 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: it shows you what to do after the catch. Also 273 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: speaks to the toughness, like you know that they're not 274 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: going to be afraid in traffic because, particularly if you're 275 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: a punt returner man, you're dealing with bullets flying and 276 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: all of the other stuff. So I like that both 277 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: guys are able to do that. But Jen and Waddle 278 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: is amoy gifted pump returner. Um. I think it just 279 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: adds to it. That's it. Um. I don't know if 280 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: you can go wrong with any of those guys. I 281 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: think this is wide receiver class, top middle bottom, a 282 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: ton of playmakers. Yeah, you know again, And look he's 283 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: Waddles my sixth player, Davante Smiths my eighth player. And 284 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: we do see receivers tend to drift a little bit 285 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: because of the sheer volume of guys. But just based 286 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: off grades and how I stacked them up, those are 287 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: two guys I think are two of the ten best 288 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: players in the draft. Um. Get to the quarterbacks. Nothing 289 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: changed for me. I went back and again for a 290 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: little project, just watch all the third and seven plus throws, 291 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: and I thought in that exercise, to me, clearly, I 292 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: still I would stick with Trevor Lawrence. Is that is 293 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: the number one guy after him, it gets interesting, you know, 294 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: And I'll get down to uh, Mac Jones is my 295 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: thirty four player. Um so, and I readily I've talked 296 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: to a bunch of people around the league that he 297 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: does have some a lot of support around the league, 298 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: and I like him. Um, I think he is going 299 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: to go in the first round. Um, I think it's 300 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a little at above where I have him graded. 301 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: But when you go watch the third and seven plus 302 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: cut ups, he was pretty good, you know, in that scenario. 303 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: But man, you're just watching it. The difference between his 304 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: third and sevens versus everybody else, in terms of the 305 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: pocket and in terms of the separation down the field 306 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: was pretty was pretty significant when you just looked at 307 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: the environment in which he was playing. Um, But then 308 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: you go to the other guys h fields. He will 309 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: make some wow, some wow throws, but there's man, there's 310 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: just a lot of those sements is buck where And 311 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it like this. I know 312 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people have said he gets stuck on 313 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: number one in his progression. To me, it's not really 314 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: that as much as you see him just holding the ball, 315 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, like whether he's his eyes might be getting 316 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: to number two and number three, or he might see 317 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: there's a lane. But I just want him to trigger, 318 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: just freaking get rid of it, get it out or 319 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: go like just more speed up your clock. Uh So 320 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: that makes sense. There have been some Ohio State people 321 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: that have come back and say that their offense is 322 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: more of an option based offense when it comes to 323 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: wide receivers running option rouse and that is why he 324 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: has been forced to hold onto it. I think that 325 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: is worthy of investigation. But it is something to him 326 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: holding onto the rock because you know in the NFL 327 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: the ball has to come out faster. You gotta get 328 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: it out quick, um, and you want to play with touch, 329 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: timing and anticipation. Yeah. And so so then we get 330 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: to Trey Lance going back to twenty nineteen, watching all 331 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: his third and seven plus throws, and the thing I 332 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: do like about him because he does have a clock. 333 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: The thing is, though he's he and man, he was 334 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: going to use his legs if if he doesn't like 335 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: what he sees in that early picture, he's gonna take 336 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: off and go sometimes prematurely, but he he converted a 337 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: lot of third and sevens with his legs. UM to 338 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: his credit. But on the negative side, there's some bad misses. 339 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: And I've been a I'm a big tree Lance guy, 340 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: but man, you'll see some bad accuracy misses on there 341 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: that that needs to to take up. Now, the good 342 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: news is he didn't put the ball in jeopardy where 343 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: fields you saw some hero interceptions falling down, you know, 344 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: too aggressive if I mean tree lances put it out 345 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: of bounce. I mean there was nothing good or bad 346 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: is gonna happen on those instances. But I did write 347 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: down to too many missus um, and then to me, 348 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: to me, um, Zack Wilson was really impressive on third 349 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: and seven plus just just pace clock um, big time throws, 350 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: extending plays. Um didn't put many balls in jeopardy UM. 351 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: So I kind of came out of that saying, Okay, 352 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: I still feel like Lawrence one. I still have Wilson too. 353 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: And then I think, well, I think that that lands 354 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: and Fields. I can hear an argument either way on 355 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: how people sort of sort them out. I'm okay with 356 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: you this. I'm not gonna, you know, die on that 357 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: hills what I'm getting at. But I think both guys 358 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: have the ceiling and both guys have a little bit 359 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: lower floor. It's funny because I think these three guys, 360 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: when we talk about them, we have to kind of 361 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: all talk about them together, right, because it is such 362 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: a unique conversation. Right, So I'm going back through and 363 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: in looking at these guys. Right, Um, we talked about 364 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Justin Fields may have well, Trey Lance one has the 365 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: shortest resume in turns, the amount of games, sixteen starts 366 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: or whatever. But then when you go and you dig 367 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: deep into Justin Fields and Zach Wilson, their stars are 368 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: close and comfortable. Zach Wilson obviously had the injury before 369 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: last season, where like the numbers weren't necessarily what you want, 370 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: but then it pops last year third three touchdowns, only 371 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: three interceptions. You look at fields numbers, he has sixty 372 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: three and nine. As I guess, like, I mean a 373 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: two year starter, one and a half year started. Whatever 374 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: you however you quantify this shortened season that they had. 375 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is super talented, super skilled. Love the pocket, presence, 376 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: the poise, the way that he is able to play 377 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: on the script or off the script. Um the thing 378 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: that you would love and we never can get this 379 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: in scouting. Man, I would love to see them play 380 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: more big time games. But then when you go back 381 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: and you look at the previous season, he has some 382 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: big time games and he showed up in some of 383 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: those things. But as that's like justin fields, you see 384 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: those wild moments and you're like, man, I need a greade. 385 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: The flashes because the College Football Playoff against Clemson was 386 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: I would say that's his signature game because I think 387 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: that's the best, and he's played on a big stage. 388 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: It unless you see the talent and what the talent 389 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: could be at the next level. But then when you 390 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: watch Indiana and Northwestern, man he was repeatedly tricked and 391 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: fooled and bad decisions. Um couldn't really I felt like 392 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: he saw some ghosts in terms of coverage because the 393 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: late changes or whatever, and you wonder how many times 394 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: is he going to get food at the next level, 395 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: And then you wonder what kind of system and then 396 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: with trade lance, I saw those things that you talked about, 397 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: like the misses, because he does have misses. But then 398 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: the thing where I kind of balance it, he is 399 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: by far the most accomplished runner of them. He ran 400 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: for eleven hundred yards. He threw like design quarterback. Run 401 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: game has to be a part of the offense when 402 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: you when you draft him. He's built for that, right 403 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: And so with all of these guys, I would say, 404 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: how our rank I still have Fields over Wilson because 405 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: I think Feels is more talented in terms of like 406 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: the raw physical tools and presence or whatever. But I 407 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: think Wilson can play in any system that you want 408 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: to play. I think for Fields, I think not necessarily 409 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: that he's it's predicated on the scheme. But there's certain 410 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: things that I think that you have to do for him. 411 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: I think play action has to be a big part 412 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: of it. Because you talk about him getting stuck on 413 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: the primary read will play action clears all of that up. 414 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: It is very easy when you stick the ball in 415 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: the building and pull it back out. It is my primary, 416 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: my secondary. That's pretty much how play actions are done. 417 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: It's either one half of the field or right over 418 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: the middle of the field, you know, um, and so 419 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: those things, and I think Trey Lance, Trey Lance needs 420 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: to be in an offense. I'm not saying that it's 421 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: like Baltimore, but it has to be. We're going to 422 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: run the quarterback eight or so times a game because 423 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: that is a huge part of his thing, the running 424 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: running the ball is his superpower. So it has to 425 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: be incorporated. If you make him be a drop back passer, 426 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: it's not gonna work for him. Yeah, And I would 427 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: just clarify to on, you know, with me buck on fields, 428 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: I don't think it is him getting stuck like. I 429 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: don't think it is him on his first read. Like 430 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: to me when I one of the things I think 431 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: it is is I think it's determining, um, NFL open 432 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: versus college open. Right, So he's holding waiting, he's not 433 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: wide you know what open, He's no, that's NFL open. 434 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: Trigger it let it go, man, you see it. I 435 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: see you going from here to here. He's there anticipated 436 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: and let it rip. Um. So that that to me 437 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: was kind of the thing. It's just just getting him 438 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: to trigger. It's not there's other guys like look, you 439 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: watch some guys and They're just like hanging on one, 440 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: hanging on one, hanging on one, hanging on one. I 441 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: didn't even I didn't think that was it. I think 442 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 1: he just just just go perfect analogy. This this, this 443 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: is what it is. Um. It's top Gun is Maverick 444 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: and Ice Zack Wilson is Maverick. He see I'm letting 445 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: it go. Fields is trying to be Uh. I don't know, can't. 446 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: It's looking for the perfect shot and it's different, and 447 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: I think he has to trigger it. He has to 448 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: let it go and then lances that. I think the 449 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: mac Jones conversation is really interesting, right because the thoughts 450 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: on him. I don't know if he's going in on him. Um. Look, 451 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: I understand why there's a lot to like about him 452 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: because when you watch him play great decision maker, very 453 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: efficient and effective, the ball comes out. Um. You see 454 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: him sometimes get to the all the way on the 455 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 1: back side of his progression, like he goes one to three, four, oh, 456 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: back is in the check down on the swing opposite 457 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: the way I got him. He understands that the thing 458 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: is DJ quarterbacks are superheroes. What's Mac jones superpower? He 459 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: doesn't have overwhelming arm talent. He's not a super athlete. 460 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: We can talk about the mind, but what is this superpower? 461 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: And he's done it for like one year one and 462 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: a half years top, So how do we grade that 463 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: with with all that? Because the thing about Zach Wilson, 464 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: I can talk about his arm talent, his athleticism justin fields. 465 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: I can talk about the arm talent, the athleticism tred Lance. 466 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: I can talk about the athleticism. To a higher problem, 467 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: what is the superpower that when we're in the Justice 468 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: League and Mac Jones shows up in his suit, what 469 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: is this special power? I don't know? You know? And 470 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: and because of that, I don't know how to take that. 471 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: How good do the weapons need to be around him 472 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: for us to play winning football with Mac Jones at 473 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: the NFL level? That is the thing. And when people 474 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: push back, well, hey, tom Brady has done it for 475 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: a long time. But yeah, we're looking at the twenty 476 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: year version of Tom Brady, the veteran version of Tom 477 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: Brady that's seen every defense known to man, and who 478 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: has improved Mac Jones. We're talking about a six three 479 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: player who's not ginormous, who doesn't have the big arm. 480 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: I just wonder I wonder with that we can value 481 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: what he's done and all those other things. I just 482 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: don't know when we show up the first day of camp, 483 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: what is the wow factor that he's gonna bring to 484 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: the table. Yeah, and look, I think people are gonna 485 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: use Tom Brady as an example of somebody who didn't 486 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: have the biggest arm coming out of Michigan, who developed 487 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: more arm strength as he went along. But I mean, 488 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: there are the fact the facts of the facts though, 489 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: like there hasn't been a quarterback in the last five years. 490 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: I believe that was not an athletic like can move around, 491 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: create an off off scheduled playmaker that's been successful in 492 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: the NFL, like the the guys who haven't worked, And 493 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: there might be a whole host of reasons. But when 494 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: you look at the Rosines and you look at the Haskins, 495 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: the guys teams have moved on from they they aren't 496 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: played creators. That's just not what they do. No, they're not. 497 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: They're not playmakers. And the mac Jones thing is also 498 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: interesting because of this. When you talk about Tom Brady 499 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: and people will point out but understand he played with 500 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: some really good teams earlier on when they won the 501 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: first three out of four for the pay matrious. The 502 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: defense was solid, he managed the game and did those things. 503 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: So if you go by the way, oh by yeah, 504 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: and if you're gonna drop Mac Jones in a situation 505 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: like that, that is different. But most of the time 506 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: those situations aren't that. So you need your quarterback to 507 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: also be a playmaker. I don't know what kind of 508 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: playmaking ability he brings to the table and I go back. 509 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: So let's compare Mac Jones too, Januel Jones. Daniel Jones 510 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: was more athletic, bigger. Daniel Jones had bigger, bigger, like 511 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: those things, and there was a lot of um consternation 512 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones going off the board early when he went. 513 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: I think for Mac Jones, I just think we have 514 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: to be careful in terms of overvaluing the production and 515 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: what he was able to do. I don't know, the 516 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: coffee is too rich for me in the first round, 517 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: I would I feel I feel like it pits us 518 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: like that we're were that were hating on him or whatever. Like, No, 519 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: I think he's I think with going to a very talented, 520 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: gifted team, he's got a chance to be a functional starter. 521 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: But when I like Trey Lance is a great example. Um, 522 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: if you watch those third and sevens Mac, Mac doesn't 523 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: have any of the wild misses that Trey has. Like 524 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: Trey has some bad misses, you don't see those really 525 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: bad misses with Mac. But I also I saw several 526 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: instances where he made throws to beat to beat coverage, 527 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: like it was there is nowhere to put that ball, 528 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: and Trey Lance found a freaking window this big to 529 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: jam a ball in, or linebackers trying to scrape and 530 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: he can beat that linebacker with his arm. And then 531 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: I saw times him shrugoff tackles. I saw him run 532 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: over guys and create first downs with his legs. Like 533 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: to me, with the play called, like you're a great 534 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, has got a great play design, and you 535 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: give it to him and everything's blocked up and people 536 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: where they're supposed to be. He's gonna execute it and 537 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna feel great, great about it. But that's not 538 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: the way the game is. Man. It's a muddy, dirty game. 539 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: And I just don't know how he's gonna be able 540 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: to function there because there's not a lot of evidence 541 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: of us being to see him do it well. That 542 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean with that, that is true, and I think 543 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: the best thing you can do is you can look 544 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: at the National Football League and point who's a young 545 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: quarterback that has a game like his that has been 546 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: successful over the last five years? There was just like 547 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: there really hasn't been one, like though Tom Brady out 548 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: through Drew Brees, and Drew Brees was a very accomplished 549 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: athlete coming up, so you can't really count him in 550 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: that same category. But who is that guy? And so 551 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: then you talk about Josh Rosen and Dwayne Askins, who 552 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: are more statuesque in their play. Those are your examples 553 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: because who else did you have? Everybody else that has 554 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: been taken and taken in the first round has mobility 555 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: and athleticism and movement skills and they are um, they 556 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: even have the ability to create plays like even I 557 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: would say, like Baker Mayfield wasn't the greatest athlete, but 558 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: even him, he was a play Yeah, Like so, um, 559 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: it's tough. So it's not about like, oh, I just 560 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: like Mac Jones, I think there's certainly a place for him. 561 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: But the draft is a beauty pageant, and so in 562 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: the beauty page and you to be able to check 563 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: off all the things. They they went to town, they 564 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: went the begame, they like. I don't know, and so 565 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. But 566 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: I do understand because of the mind and the way 567 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: he plays, there are a lot of people that are 568 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: like him because he can understand what is being put 569 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: on the board and he can process it whatever. Now, 570 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: when you get in the game, can you make those 571 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: plays come to light? Yeah? Um, a couple more things 572 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: here and we'll get to coach sadderfield. I'll just kind 573 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: of point out some other interesting things and then maybe 574 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: you grab one of them. Um that interests you. Running 575 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: back wise, and I think most teams you talked to 576 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: will have Naja Harris is a top running back. I'm 577 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: sticking with Travis E. T n because of how dynamic 578 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: and explosive he is. I have there's certain certain players 579 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: you have a vision for, Like I have a vision 580 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: for this dude if he gets to the right team 581 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: with how they use him, I think you're talking about it. 582 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: Jamal Charles type. That's who he kind of is to me. 583 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: So you've got that with the running backs. Greg Newsome 584 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: moved up for me the corner from Northwestern he's my 585 00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: thirty first player, UM, which puts him as the fourth cornerback. UM. 586 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: I added new guys have added to the to the list. 587 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: Ronnie Perkins is thirty seven out of Oklahoma. UM, he's 588 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: a I really like Ronnie Perkins. I've talked to people 589 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: around the league. I definitely there's guys you know that 590 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: you're higher on than the league. That's one of them. 591 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: You know. The stuff the feedback I get from the 592 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: league is not where I have him. But I'm that's okay. 593 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: I like his game. I'm in on him. UM. I 594 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: added Kelvin Joseph, the corner from Kentucky. We've been talking 595 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: about for a while. He's forty one for me on 596 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: the list. UM, he's got some really good tape and 597 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: then he gets torched by Kyle Pitts. But that's why 598 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is the third best player in the draft 599 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: in my opinion. Jabril Cox entered into the list linebacker 600 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: from l s U can really run. Man. You know, 601 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: I think the Super Bowl that's probably subconsciously Bucks seeing 602 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: these linebackers that can run. UM that that they they 603 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: caught my eye. And then at forty five, UM, I 604 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: went back and did more work on Rashad Bateman. So 605 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: I ended up putting Bateman in at number forty five, 606 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: the receiver from Minnesota. One of those deals where just 607 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: when I when I watched him the first time, maybe 608 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: had some bad cereal that morning. I don't know, I 609 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: just wasn't I wasn't a big fan. And then you 610 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: go back with fresh eyes and I watched him with 611 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: a clump up guys, and I'm like, Okay, he's got 612 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: a lot in his body, Like there's a lot to 613 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: work with. You have a lot to work with any 614 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: talented player. That was a big coup for p J. 615 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: Fleck to go and get him, bring him up to Minnesota, 616 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: and he's been a I mean, he's been a star 617 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: for them. He's played at a high level. He catched 618 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: the ball. Uh, he has a physicality and that stuff. 619 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: And DJ we just talked about there's so many there's 620 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: so many past catch he said, some guys are just 621 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: gonna get lost in the mix. And I think if 622 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: you are um savvy as an evaluated man second or 623 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: third round, you can be able to get some guys 624 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: that can be some front of life players that can 625 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: do some damage. No, that's absolutely the truth. Um, all right, 626 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: let's let's get to our interview here with coach Sadderfield, 627 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: one of our one of our favorites to catch up 628 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: with one of the bright young coaches in college football. 629 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: Here's our chat with Louisville's Scott Sadderfield. All Right, Buck, 630 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: excited to bring back our friend, my former coach, Scott 631 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: sa Orfield, University of lougal head football coach, coach. How 632 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: you doing, man? Doing great? How you guys doing great? Man? 633 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: I guess first question would be, uh, you know, just 634 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: how how how difficult was it uh to try to 635 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: navigate through what you've had to navigate through over the 636 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: last year. Well, it's the most difficult thing we've ever 637 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: had to go through as coaches. Um, not even clothes. Uh, 638 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, with with everything that went on last year. 639 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: You talk about the pandemic, so I'll talk about the 640 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: social unrest. Um, you talk about the unknown. I think, 641 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: uh that that was huge. And then you know you 642 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: have to be flexible with everything that you did every 643 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: single day and and really almost every hour, you know, 644 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: and I think just I was proud of our guys 645 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: in her stuff. We're being able to get through it 646 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: and really just accomplish playing the whole season because we 647 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: were able to do that, you know, and thinking about 648 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: having to be nimble like that, What are some of 649 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: the things that you learned throughout this process and having 650 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: to adjust and doing things virtually that maybe you can 651 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: implement going forward to maybe making a better experience for 652 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: you and your student athletes. Well, there's no question the 653 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: the our zoom game. Uh step up, you know, I 654 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: think I never I never never heard of zoom obviously, 655 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, until last January then you started getting into 656 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,959 Speaker 1: these the pandemic and um, and now we're zooming all 657 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: the time. I mean we we zoom last night. I 658 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: mean we got a recruit. So so I think that 659 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: that part will will, I think forever be a part 660 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: of what we do and how we do things in 661 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: recruiting now and UM and meetings for that matter. You know, 662 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: if you've got guys that are out or whatever, they 663 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: can always you can always zoom in for any kind 664 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: of position meeting or team meeting. Uh. You know. So 665 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: I think that part is probably the one thing that 666 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: that we're all going to take away from this pandemic. 667 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: You know, I think now even you know, we've had 668 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: some weather here the last week here in Louisville, and 669 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: we've a lot of these people are working from home. 670 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not not talking to football because we're 671 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: always gonna be here, but but but everybody else, administrators 672 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: and those type people, um, they're working from home. So 673 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: I think and I think that will change business as well. 674 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: So I think that's probably the singular thing that I 675 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: think is the most impactful change that we'll have throughout 676 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: this pandemic. Coach, I'm curious if you had the knowledge 677 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: of this technology like when you first got to Louisville 678 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: year one. I'm thinking of and I'm bringing this up 679 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: because we have a lot of new NFL coaches this year. Um, 680 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: how advantageous is it to be able to teach when 681 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: these guys can't you know, be in the building, but 682 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: to actually have those video conferences with them, to be 683 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: able to share screens and show video. I mean, I 684 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: would think that would really really accelerate the learning process. Well, 685 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: it was gonna be huge, you know. And when you 686 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: think about guys at that level of the NFL, they 687 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: can't get enough knowledge, like like they want more. They're 688 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: always wanted more. And and now with this I mean, 689 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: we can pull up anything we have in our whole 690 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: video library, pull it up, start coaching through it at 691 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: any point any time. And I think, um, you know, 692 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: so if you want to get some knowledge, you always 693 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: are gonna be able to get it. You don't have 694 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: to be in the facility, you know. And I think 695 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: I think at that level, those guys are just really 696 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: hungry for that, particularly the young guys that are just 697 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: getting into it. They can't get enough of it, you know. 698 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: And I think, um, you know, and I know out 699 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: in NFL, a lot of these fasts and no hour 700 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: are they're they're doing their staff meetings through zoom, you know, 701 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: and week on in there all this week off whatever. Um. So, yeah, 702 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be huge as we move forward in this 703 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: technology piece. Um, you know, we'll continue to grow it 704 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: and men elevate I think through the through the technology coach. 705 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by the job that you're doing at at 706 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: Louisville because you go from app State and up at 707 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: Louisville you made two laps around the a CEC in 708 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: terms of coaching. What are some of the things that 709 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: you learned in terms of moving up to the a 710 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: SEC things that will help you get better at Louisville. Well, 711 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, I do think there's a lot of great coaches, 712 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: UM at this level. You know, as you as you 713 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: look at it, I mean, obviously these guys have worked 714 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: their way up to get to this point. Um, You're 715 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: gonna have good players on every team, like everybody. You know. 716 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: The thing that's different I think, you know once we 717 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: moved up was um particularly the last two years on 718 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: the defensive lines. I think we've played a lot of 719 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: good defensive ends, get good de tackles. Every week. You 720 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: feel like there's as a team every week you kind 721 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: of has somebody you know, so you always have to 722 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: know where those guys are trying to figure out how 723 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: to how to kind of move the football. And then 724 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: in all and at this in this league in a 725 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: sec we have some outstanding quarterbacks, make some great quarterbacks, 726 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: so you know they'll they'll beat you with their arms, 727 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: a lot of them can beat you with their legs. Um. 728 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: But I think just the playmaking ability that that we're 729 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: we're seeing weekend and week out, you know, you have 730 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: to be cognizant of that. And you know, very rarely 731 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: do you do you you know, you have to outscore 732 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: teams too. I mean, you know, I think we played 733 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: last year, we played a Notre Dame, but we we 734 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: lost twelve and seven. I mean, that's that's not the norm. 735 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: I think if you're not scoring thirty points or more, 736 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a hard time winning. I think, um, 737 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, at this level, and there's so many good 738 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: offenses out there, the rules are are dictated towards the 739 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: offensive side of the football, So you gotta be able 740 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: to score points. I mean, you look and see what 741 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: Alabama is doing now, Clemson. I mean, these teams that 742 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: are in every year, they're able to outscore teams. And 743 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: you know which is you know, we didn't say that 744 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: five eight years ago. I think in college football, I 745 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: don't think you saw him this year, right, I don't 746 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: think you played Clemson this year, but I know you 747 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: saw him in nineteen um just just playing playing against 748 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: uh and coaching against Trevor Lawrence and then also seeing him. 749 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw a ton of crossover tape this year. 750 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: Just your take on him as a former quarterback yourself, Well, 751 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's really unbelievable. You know, I try 752 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: to find a weakness on him, and I don't know 753 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: what it is. I'd be interesting to hear you're taking 754 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: that what weakness you may think he has, because you know, 755 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: he's six six, he runs like he's six foot. Um, 756 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: he's got a tremendous arm. He's um, he's very accurate, 757 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: you know. But but I think the one thing that 758 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: I love more about him than anything else is just 759 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: his demeanor in his approach to the game. I think 760 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: that sets him apart from from everybody else. You know, 761 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: when you have that, I mean he's he's more in 762 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: the line of the Peyton Manning to Tom Brady that 763 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: Drew Brees. He's got that about him. So and those 764 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: guys obviously are Hall of Fame type players. So he 765 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: has the talent, he's got the skill set more so 766 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: than you know. Tom Brady is tall, but he can't run, 767 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: you know. Drew Brees is short. You know, he's got 768 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: a great arm. You know. So he's got kind of 769 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: all those intangibles plus the things that you want, the leadership, 770 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: the humbleness that he has, the you know, the team 771 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: first mentality, people who want to play for him and 772 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: get everything to have for him. He's gonna make everybody 773 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: around him better. Um, you know, so he's just he's 774 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: a man. He's a unicorn in my opinion, you know, 775 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: I just don't know what, um, what his weakness might be. 776 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: I really don't you know. I mean, Buck, what what 777 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: would you say? By the what keep the conversation going here? 778 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: Because the only thing when I go back through my 779 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: notes was maybe there's some pocket awareness things at times, 780 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: or maybe he'll hold the ball. But I mean, he's 781 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: really your nitpicking Buck, I don't know what you've had on. Yeah, 782 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: I think the only thing you do is is kind 783 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: of nitpick. Like when he played those games L s 784 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: U in a higher state maybe win depression and the 785 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: late changing coverage, they tricked him a little bit, but 786 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: he is so good. I think coach for you, I 787 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,959 Speaker 1: think it's always fascinating to get a coach's perspective when 788 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: you're on the other sideline and your team is playing 789 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: against a dude, I meaning a franchise quarterback. What is 790 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: that feeling like when you're facing him? Does it change 791 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: how you approach it from offense? Defense? Like? What is 792 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: it like facing a top of not quarterback on the 793 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: other side? Well, yeah, yeah, it's very challenging. Obviously. Now 794 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: we played him two years ago. I think we had 795 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: two picks, so he had thrown interception in a while 796 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 1: and we ended up picking them all. Um, he threw 797 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: in the coverage a little bit, you know, trying to 798 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: force the ball. But um, you know, as sometimes quarterbacks 799 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: do that. But but I think you know, you really 800 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: just try to contain him. I mean really, you know, 801 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna be able to make those plays. 802 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: The thing about Clemson too, is that you had some 803 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: other players that are really good. You know, some of 804 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: those wide receivers, they're running back. So I mean you 805 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: really you really just can't try to focus on stopping him. 806 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 1: So um, that's where it makes it really challenging, I think. 807 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: But but I think you just want to try to 808 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: keep everything in front. You don't want to give up 809 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: those big plays um that he's obviously capable of doing. 810 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: Try try to make him get impatient, I think, so, 811 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, just give him the underneath throws and see 812 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: if he'll take them all day. You know some quarterbacks won't, 813 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: you know, they want to get Hey, I want to 814 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: throw that ball down the field. I want to get 815 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: a little bit hungry and and and eager to throw 816 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: the ball down the field. That's where you get in trouble. 817 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: But if he has that patience, then it's gonna be 818 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: hard to beat him, you know, because they have so 819 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: many great weapons around him. But um, but yeah, it's 820 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: it's very difficult. I think when you're facing somebody of 821 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: that caliber talent. Well, as you know, coach, I prefer 822 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: it for the team to just give me the underneath 823 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 1: stuff I didn't really want to have. I'll take those 824 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: layups all day long. Can't go taking a profit. And 825 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: somebody once told me back in the day, that's true. Uh. 826 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: I want to talk about a guy on your team, 827 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: one of my favorite players of study. I think I 828 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: sent you a text after I watched him for the 829 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 1: first time a too too at Well, I say, it 830 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: looks like he plays with the jet pack strap to 831 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: his back. Uh, just just tell me about a little 832 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,479 Speaker 1: bit about him as a person as well as a player. Yeah, 833 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, we we got here too too. I remember 834 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: my high school was a quarterback and it was unbelievable 835 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: down there, not not very big to say the least. Um, 836 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: you know, so we were able to come up here 837 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: and we first got around him, and I you know, 838 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: I first thought when I saw him, and this guy 839 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: can be really special. You know when we got here 840 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: the year before, I think he had two hundred and 841 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: thirty yards rece even a year before. But we got 842 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: here and we put him in our slot um position, 843 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: and I thought, made this guy be could be very 844 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: specially we end up breaking the school record for receiving 845 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: yards and here in Louisville. That's saying something. Um. And 846 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: you know, I think that one thing I love about 847 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: him though, is that every single day he comes here, 848 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: he's got smile on his face, like he's that guy. 849 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: You know, he's not. He's not a Debbie Downer or 850 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: a negative Nancy. I mean, he's gonna show up ready 851 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: to work every single day, smile on his face. Coach, 852 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: what you got for me today? You know, he's just 853 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: that kind of kid. Um. And and then when you 854 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: put him on the field, you know, you know you've 855 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: got a chance to complete the football. It's like like 856 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: if you're playing quarterback in the last two years, man 857 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: two two is gonna have a chance to be open 858 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: no matter what. Um. If you get one on one, 859 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: you're definitely throwing him to football and now if you're 860 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 1: gonna get his own all right, let's fine, let's fine 861 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: where you can go. He's but he's got good space 862 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 1: and awareness. I think because of his day's playing quarterback. 863 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: You know, he kind of understands where he needs to 864 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: get to in that. But um, you know, and he's 865 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: a tough kid. You know, he's not very big, you know. 866 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: I think that's a knock on him, is that. You know, 867 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: he he's not gonna be that big player. You know, 868 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: it's a hundred and sixty pounds. Um. But I do 869 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: think I compared him with t Y Hilton. I was 870 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: obviously two years Uh t wise junior and senior year. 871 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: UM two two had a better college career. Uh there's 872 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: no question better college created than than t Y. And 873 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: I thought when t Y got to the next level 874 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: that he would probably do better because they're not gonna 875 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: be able to put up the hands on him. You know, 876 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,479 Speaker 1: they're gonna call that NFL. We don't get that called 877 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: in college football a lot. You know, they can grab 878 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: him and hold him and it's not gonna call it. 879 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 1: But but too too, I think it's gonna be some 880 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: of the same same characteristics once he gets in the NFL, 881 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna get some one on that one on one coverage. 882 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: He's gonna be able to run away from those guys. Um, 883 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: he's gonna have a lot of big plays. I mean, 884 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: I just think, Uh, I can't wait to watch him 885 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: because I think he's gonna be exciting to watch at 886 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 1: that next level. But the guys are gonna like playing 887 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: with him because of his attitude and what he brings 888 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: every single day. You know, he's a guy. You know, 889 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: we're we're in an age now where everybody's opting out. 890 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: In this past year, you know, he didn't want to 891 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: opt out, like he wanted to play every week even 892 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: though he was dealing with some injury. Um, but he 893 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: still came back and play. It just says a lot 894 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: about him. Coach. We we obviously love guys that love 895 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: the game. There's a gather showed up at the Senior 896 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 1: about death Fitch Patrick, who also had a lot of success. 897 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 1: What do you think about him? How do you develop 898 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: in your program? Yeah, you know, I think des is 899 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: a guy who number he brings a lot of great 900 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: size UM and and the one thing about him, once 901 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: he catches the football, he's got a lot of ability 902 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: after the catch. You know, he's a powerful runner with 903 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: that size. Um, he's made some contested catches in our 904 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: two years that we had him here. Um. You know, 905 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: the one thing that I would say needs to work 906 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 1: on being a little bit more consistent catching the football. 907 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: That's the one thing that you know, we had to 908 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: drop I think in the Senior Bowl. Um. But he 909 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: is a talented player, a very very talented player. I 910 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: also love he grew up a lot in our two 911 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 1: years that we were here. But he practiced really, really hard. 912 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: And I think what I've seen my career, if if 913 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: you come every day and you practice hard like that, 914 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna continue to get better. So he's got that 915 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: work ethic about him. I think he will continue to 916 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: get better and better and better, and he'll be a 917 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: guy that I think he'll he'll obviously, I think he'll 918 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: help a football team, you know, wherever he's gonna be 919 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: at NFL coach, I've saved this question. I had to 920 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: look it up to make sure I was gonna look 921 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: up the age here. So this guy fifty three years old, 922 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 1: now I say a little bit older than you. Um, 923 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: but have you had a chance to meet never nervous 924 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: Purvis Ellison. Since you took the hill, I have not 925 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: had a chance to meet him. Remember back in the day. Uh, 926 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: he was very good. Yeah, No, I mean he's he's 927 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: got to be the greatest Louisville He's the greatest Louisville 928 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: basketball player of all time? Right? Whose Darrell Griffith? Yeah, 929 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: Dr Dunkings and Denny Crumb like that, but noting the 930 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: national championship with Purvis, right, they did when it was 931 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: never nervous, but but Dr duck Instein kind of kind 932 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: of put them on the mat with Denny Crump. And 933 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: don't see I know, Sat, Sat You I guarantee you 934 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 1: growing up where you grew up because you and Bucky 935 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: I think I grew up very close to one another. 936 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: Right Where were you from? Where you from? Coach? I 937 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: grew up in durhamth Carolina? Your dermite? Okay, So what 938 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: high school did you go to? But I ended up 939 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: going with so we moved to Orange County. So I 940 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: went to Orange High School right right there in Orange County? Okay, 941 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: j R. Bolden of ar Bold Yeah, I'm yeah, Okay, 942 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: he was the SI when I was a freshman. Okay, 943 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: right there there, So Bucky's BUCkies has this you know, 944 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: he has this, uh this view of a CC basketball 945 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: during the best So that's what he grew up on. 946 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: So I figured you had to have grown up on 947 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: the same thing. And then I grew up. You know, 948 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: do State Carolina Wake Force. Ronnie Rodgers was my guy. 949 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: Love watching Rodny Rodgers, Tito, Yeah he was. He's from 950 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: Durham As I went to Hills played quarterback, playable athlete. 951 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, we grew up in that era. Man, that 952 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: that shoot, they were winning national championships North Carolina, NC State. 953 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean it was eighty two, eighty three, so he 954 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: has a lot of goods. Buck. We gave somebody a 955 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: hard time. Who did we give a hard time because 956 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: they didn't know who? Uh uh Fire and Ice was? 957 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: Uh man, I can't remember. Yes, yes, it was Ryan Finley. 958 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: It was Ryan Finley. We had Ryan. He met the 959 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Heayed State, telling me about fire and Ice? 960 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: What do you know about are nice? And he was like, 961 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking, Like, I don't State, 962 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: you don't know about Monroe and Cortiani? Like are you 963 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: kidding me right now? That's bad, it's not good. No, 964 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: you educate these kids. Coach. Hey, man, it's been it's 965 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: been great catching up. I know you guys in the 966 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: middle spring ball. You're busy, so uh, we appreciate you 967 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: rooting for you. Can't wait to see you guys get 968 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: out there and compete getting next fall. Yeah, man, appreciate 969 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: Always great to see you guys. Love the helmet back 970 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: there to DJ. I got two of them, Man, I 971 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: don't know if I always we love that's just the 972 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: pretty one, but then we've got uh, that's that's the 973 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: that's actually the used one. Do you realize how heavy 974 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: our helmets were, by the way, and pick up these 975 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: new ones. They're like a feather. We were playing with 976 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: a brick block on our head. Correct, man, No doubt, 977 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: no doubt. Great seeing you guys, man season all right, bucks. 978 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: Always great to catch up a coach sat one of 979 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: my favorite coaches I've ever played for. And you can 980 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: see why when you get a chance to to visit 981 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: with him. Just a great personality. And and Louisville's got 982 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah, they certainly have a good one. Man. 983 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,760 Speaker 1: He understands. He understands it from a big picture perspective. 984 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: He understands the quarterback game and just the overall development 985 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: of players, particularly out wide. I love the job that 986 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: he's doing. I think he's do great things that he 987 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: continues to kind of put his his OWD stamp on 988 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: what they do at Louiga. Yeah, definitely stealing the tow 989 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: two at well uh t Y Hilton comp. So still 990 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: don't you love it when these guys have coaches other players, 991 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 1: because then it gives you some context for Yeah, I 992 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: mean but that and that's the whole thing with with 993 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: cops um to be able to give you a visual 994 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: of what the guy could be or who he reminds 995 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 1: you of, or those things and how those guys were 996 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: able to have success. You can kind of build out 997 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: a blueprint for how to to at Will can also 998 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: have success in the league. Well, I've got a big 999 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: grade on him. He might need to put some quarters 1000 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: in his pockets before he before he weighs in at 1001 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,720 Speaker 1: the pro day so he doesn't get me in trouble 1002 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 1: if he comes in just that second number. Can we 1003 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: get that second number to be a seventh? That's all? 1004 00:45:53,840 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: That's all I come on, man seven on that second number. Uh. Anyways, Hey, 1005 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: let's let's remind everybody. You can find Bucky's mock draft 1006 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: video on YouTube. You can also find uh my second 1007 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: mock draft video is on YouTube. UM, so those are 1008 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: those are out there. Be on the lookout for those. 1009 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: Um that will be on the NFL's official YouTube channel, 1010 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 1: so YouTube dot com slash NFL, you'll be able to 1011 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: find those on there, um, so be on the lookout 1012 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: for that. And we've got a bunch of great guests 1013 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: coming your way here on some of these future episodes, 1014 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: so be on the lookout for those as well. Do 1015 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys hanging with us, and we'll catch you 1016 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: next time right here on. Move the sticks.