WEBVTT - Best Picture Countdown to the Oscars: “Sinners” 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks. Oh no, it's Oscar's weekend. But you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't watched all the movies where you're in the right place.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get you caught up now, movie number one, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with Sinners.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>This film has sixteen nominations. It is a juggernaut going

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<v Speaker 3>into Oscar Sunday. Yes, it is nominated for Best Picture,

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<v Speaker 3>Best Director, Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor, Best Supporting Actress,

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<v Speaker 3>Best Casting, Best Makeup and Hairstyling, Best Achievement in Cinematography,

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<v Speaker 3>Best Original Score, Wow, I'm gonna keep going, Best Original Song,

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<v Speaker 3>Best Sound, Best Achievement in Visual Effects, Best Screenplay, Best

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<v Speaker 3>Achievement in Production Design, Best Achievement in Costume Design, and

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<v Speaker 3>Best Achievement in Film Editing.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is a record. History is on the line

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday. Centers has more nominations than any movie in history.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, folks, black folks are behind this movie with

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Coogler, the cast and everything. Rome is not just

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of the number of nominations. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal that this is a history making film in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways. And so I think this film,

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<v Speaker 1>which did do well at the box office and the

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<v Speaker 1>people liked this is gonna I think this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>help the ratings on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely, this is I think it's fair to say

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<v Speaker 3>the hands on favorite fan favorite for winning the box

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<v Speaker 3>office gross will tell you what you need to know.

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<v Speaker 3>This film made two one hundred and eighty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's so significant beyond yes, it being a black

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<v Speaker 3>led film, This is an original screenplay. You don't get

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<v Speaker 3>that very often, especially when it comes to horror movies.

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<v Speaker 3>When something works, they just keep doing it and they

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<v Speaker 3>keep repeating it, and they adapt it from a book

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<v Speaker 3>or they adapted from something else that they can say

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<v Speaker 3>was successful.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an original.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't get that all. That's why every time

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<v Speaker 1>you hear about a new movie coming out. We just

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<v Speaker 1>saw the Heat Too is coming out. We just went

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<v Speaker 1>the Anaconda coming out. They're bringing all they keep doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>and what's the latest Star Wars thing that's.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know the count on that album. When

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<v Speaker 2>there's prequels and sequels and all sorts of stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the Conjuring they said the last one was the

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<v Speaker 1>last one and now they're development for a prequel.

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<v Speaker 2>We knew it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not new stuff. That alone almost robes make this

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<v Speaker 1>one a front runner to a certain degree. The cast here,

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<v Speaker 1>you know them well. Michael B. Jordan nominated, of course

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<v Speaker 1>for Best Actor, Womney Masaka she's nominated as well. Delroy

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<v Speaker 1>Lindo is nominated. Then you have Hailey Steinfeld in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And Miles Kenton, he is the young man who plays

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<v Speaker 1>a central role in the film. But a hell of

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<v Speaker 1>a cast. And of course the director, Ryan Coogler behind

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<v Speaker 1>Black Panther, behind Fruitvale Station. We have watched his career

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<v Speaker 1>and him get bigger and bigger and bigger, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can't get more bigger or any bigger than he is

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. And like you said, this is one

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<v Speaker 1>that people actually did like and go to the theater

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<v Speaker 1>to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and this is we have said it before, but

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<v Speaker 3>we'll put it on a record in this episode. This

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<v Speaker 3>is the only movie OSCAR nominated Best Picture movie that

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<v Speaker 3>we actually were excited about before we even.

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<v Speaker 2>Were thinking about Oscars, and that we actually went.

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<v Speaker 3>To the movie theater to go see and look, this

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<v Speaker 3>was one to see in the theaters.

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<v Speaker 2>It's we actually want to rewatch it at home. It's

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<v Speaker 2>that good.

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<v Speaker 3>There are very few movies that we actually want to rewatch.

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<v Speaker 3>This is among them. But what, there are so many

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<v Speaker 3>cool things about this movie because you don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>be a horror fan to like this movie, because yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it is technically a horror movie, but this is about

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<v Speaker 3>human relationships. This is about just the music, the cinematography,

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<v Speaker 3>the epic arc of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Story, race history, it has.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many elements to it that I feel like,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter what genre you like most, it's got some

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<v Speaker 3>of that in there, including like musical theater esque.

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<v Speaker 2>Stylization, Like I actually felt.

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<v Speaker 3>At some point I was watching a music video on

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<v Speaker 3>top of a horror movie, on top of a history

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<v Speaker 3>lesson on top of just watching phenomenal actors do their

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<v Speaker 3>things with a great script.

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<v Speaker 1>And this one did make a lot of money the

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<v Speaker 1>box office two hundred and eighty million worldwide. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a big, big deal. That's a big deal for a

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<v Speaker 1>horror movie. It's certainly a big deal for an original movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a big deal for an original horror movie.

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<v Speaker 1>We just don't get those. If you haven't seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>you've certainly heard plenty about it. It's been everywhere. But

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<v Speaker 1>the synopsis they explain it like this, trying to leave

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<v Speaker 1>their troubled lives behind, twin brothers return to their hometown

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<v Speaker 1>to start again, only to discover that an even greater

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<v Speaker 1>evil is waiting to welcome them back. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>horror movie. It is graphic at times, it is rated ARE,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has a run time that Robes is not

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<v Speaker 1>exactly a short movie. It fly. I feel like it's dragging,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess this is just standard stuff maybe for

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<v Speaker 1>movies now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, most horror movies, we'll be honest, are under

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<v Speaker 3>an hour and forty minutes. I mean that is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the sweet spot for horror movies. Usually an hour thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes even less.

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<v Speaker 3>This one for two hours and seventeen minutes did give

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<v Speaker 3>us a little pause going to the theaters.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is so well done.

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly don't even remember looking at my watch ef

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<v Speaker 3>or wondering when it was going to be over, which

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<v Speaker 3>I have done on many of these movies.

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<v Speaker 2>This was not among them.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even realize it was as long as it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, the critics scores came in along with the

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<v Speaker 3>audience scores.

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<v Speaker 2>Just making this movie. You understand why it's nominated and

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<v Speaker 2>why it did so well. At the box office.

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<v Speaker 3>The critics gave it ninety seven percent on Rotten Tomatoes,

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<v Speaker 3>and the audience was just behind it ninety six percent,

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<v Speaker 3>and we would be right there with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't see this scores certainly that high in

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<v Speaker 1>both the audience and the It's rare, but these were

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<v Speaker 1>right on, like almost exactly, the audience and the viewers.

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<v Speaker 1>The audience and the critics had the exact same view

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<v Speaker 1>of this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a consensus.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, this is about vampires. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think we've made that clear. This is a vampire movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I would think you'd kind of have to

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<v Speaker 3>be living under a rock if you didn't know this.

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<v Speaker 3>But while it's very gory for sure, and there is

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of violence in this there are some jump scares,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't know, like for traditional horror fans how scary.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't scared necessarily, but I was riveted. I was invested.

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<v Speaker 3>I was here for it, but it wasn't like I

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<v Speaker 3>was frightened necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>There were graphic scenes. Yeah, I get what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>but I to your point about folks that would have

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<v Speaker 1>to be under a rock. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>felt that so much of the messaging and promotion with

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<v Speaker 1>this movie build it as a vampire flick. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what they builded it, and maybe that was

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the success. I didn't think I was

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<v Speaker 1>going into a traditional family this is just a vampire movie.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was going into a Michael B.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan and a Ryan Cooglan movie, like, Ah, what you

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<v Speaker 1>guys got for me? I'm here for it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, Michael B. Jordan it was.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I thought it was so cool to see

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<v Speaker 3>him playing twin brothers like he did, such an incredible

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<v Speaker 3>job playing two characters. I can't even imagine what that's

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<v Speaker 3>like as an actor, to have two different roles in

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<v Speaker 3>the same movie. What that is like, and just even

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<v Speaker 3>how they shoot it and how it feels so real, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You're seeing two Michael B. Jordan's play off of each other.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not easy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And that might be the reason. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>would tip the balance. I guess the guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>being nominated for an Oscar you all play one role,

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<v Speaker 1>he played two. I mean I would almost give him

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<v Speaker 1>a nod to that to a certain degree. But he

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<v Speaker 1>is as his stunning self as always, But this is

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<v Speaker 1>all a story. The music stands out. It is nominated

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<v Speaker 1>for some of the music, and we have been listening,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I have that music on in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of that is just great stuff. So we'd there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much in the young characters in it. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was just a grit or a griminess almost to this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>That is it. It's almost weird to have it as

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<v Speaker 1>an Oscar nominated Best Picture because quite frankly, horror movies

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<v Speaker 1>just don't get this kind of love.

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<v Speaker 3>Silence of the Lambs, that's probably the last one I

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<v Speaker 3>remember getting that much love and sweeping the Oscars with

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<v Speaker 3>actor wins and Best Picture wins.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of folks are.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying this could be the one film in that same

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<v Speaker 3>genre that does the same thing this year, like this

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<v Speaker 3>is the first chance a horror movie has had in

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<v Speaker 3>quite some time to sweep the Oscars.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So should you watch The Sucker or should

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<v Speaker 1>you not? You probably have already come to the conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>about what we think about it, But stay here we

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<v Speaker 1>answer the question watch it or skip it? And why?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Continuing with Sinners here on this Oscars weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>Watch it skip it. Obviously it sounds anybody who's listened

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<v Speaker 1>to the first ten minutes, they'd say, yeah, well, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>these two are gonna recommend that you watch this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a little more to it than that ropes.

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<v Speaker 1>Not everybody's into this type of movie, not everybody's into

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<v Speaker 1>the gore, But I would recommend watching. This is a story.

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<v Speaker 1>This is somebody sat down and wrote out and just

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<v Speaker 1>made up this story. It didn't come from somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't come from other material. I think that of

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<v Speaker 1>itself is impressive and worth watching. I think Michael B.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan is always worth watching when he is on screen,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a dynamic performance by him. Obviously he's

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<v Speaker 1>being rewarded because of the Oscar nomination. He also what

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<v Speaker 1>was the one he picked up. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the upset that it was a big nut the Actors Awards. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>actually beat out all these same guys at the Actors

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<v Speaker 1>Awards for Best Actor.

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<v Speaker 3>They were shocked he beat out Timothy Shalome, But there

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<v Speaker 3>were so many other incredible actors in that category. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not shocking to me at all that he won. But

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<v Speaker 3>for some reason, people thought Timothy Shalome had it in

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<v Speaker 3>the bag. People have talked about Leonardo DiCaprio. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>there was the Spanish actor in a Secret Agent who

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<v Speaker 3>won at Going Yes, So look, this is anyone's guests

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<v Speaker 3>as to who actually takes home that Best Actor award,

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<v Speaker 3>but certainly Michael B.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan is on it.

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<v Speaker 3>And in terms of should you watch it or skip it,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to add another element to that. I not

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<v Speaker 3>only say you should watch it, I say you should

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<v Speaker 3>rewatch it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a film that is so.

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<v Speaker 3>Just incredible in its storytelling and in its acting, and

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<v Speaker 3>in the music, the visuals, the like what you hear,

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<v Speaker 3>what you see, what you feel, It's all just so compelling.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like the only reason why people might

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<v Speaker 3>not want to watch this is because they don't like

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<v Speaker 3>scary movies, because they don't like Gore. I would just say,

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<v Speaker 3>if you think it's gonna get gory when you close

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<v Speaker 3>your eyes, but keep listening, keep watching, because there's so

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<v Speaker 3>much more to this story than just look, we love

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<v Speaker 3>just a scary film. That is what it is. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just tequila and tacos. You know exactly where you're gonna get.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna be scared, you're gonna do. This is so

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<v Speaker 3>much more depth to this. There's so much more about this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a love story, this is history, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this family between the music, this is family.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many other through lines in the story. That

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<v Speaker 2>this is not just a horror movie lover's movie.

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<v Speaker 3>This is for so many more people, And I just

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<v Speaker 3>think it would be a shame if you missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it is also there is a backdrop of

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<v Speaker 1>racial striketh absolutely in this movie that doesn't necessarily come

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<v Speaker 1>to the forefront, but the fact that it's there, It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the central theme or the central conflict, but the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it's just there plays a part in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this is this is Hella done? That is now

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<v Speaker 1>elevating things for horror movies, and Rose we might have

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<v Speaker 1>greater expectations of the horror movies we see. Between this

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<v Speaker 1>and Weapons last year, we were like, whoa we have

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<v Speaker 1>bringing it.

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<v Speaker 3>We have seen this genre elevated by just brilliant minds,

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<v Speaker 3>folks who obviously love horror the way we do, but

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<v Speaker 3>taking it to a whole other level. And we are

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<v Speaker 3>slow clapping all the way because it is so fun

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<v Speaker 3>to see other people recognize how amazing these types of

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<v Speaker 3>movies can be. You give it a little, you give

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<v Speaker 3>it a lot of talent, a lot of forethought. This

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<v Speaker 3>isn't just some formulaic thing that you know, we know

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<v Speaker 3>the formula of horror movies. This takes it to a

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<v Speaker 3>whole other level and I hope it just raises the

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<v Speaker 3>game for everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is my pick for Best Picture.

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<v Speaker 3>I am going to be rooting for Sinners the whole

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<v Speaker 3>way through, but I hope I am cheering on Sinners

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<v Speaker 3>for Best.

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<v Speaker 1>Picture, and I am nervous. I'm rooting for it. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the favorite movie we saw on the list

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<v Speaker 1>for us. But I am nervous. So many nominations, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an expectation that you gotta deliver, you gotta win a

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<v Speaker 1>certain number. And I think back to the Color Purple.

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<v Speaker 1>They had eleven nominations, which was huge at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and they walked away with not a single win that night.

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<v Speaker 1>So there have been some of those over time. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just not only hold my breath on that one, but

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<v Speaker 1>this could absolutely be a night that the Oscars has

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<v Speaker 1>never ever seen before. So, folks, that is how we

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<v Speaker 1>feel about Sinners, movie number one on our list, that

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting caught up on movie number two on our list.

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<v Speaker 1>Next episode will be one battle after another, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot to say about the movie that is

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<v Speaker 1>considered right Robes the strongest competition with Sinners for Best Oscar.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that fair to say? Yes, I think that Best

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar Best Picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, that's got the next biggest buzz associated with

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<v Speaker 3>it for Best Picture. And we'll have to see what

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<v Speaker 3>the Academy decides, but our vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Is for Sinners.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, look for that one. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>next in the feed. Folks. We will talk to you soon.