Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Thursday, September twelfth, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Show where we're just
Speaker 1: happy not to be on IR s Mey your man,
Speaker 1: m G.
Speaker 2: Marcus Grant, joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones.
Speaker 2: Happy Week two it is officially here.
Speaker 1: Get started later tonight with the Bills and the Dolphins
Speaker 1: from South Florida and fellas we talked on Wednesday show
Speaker 1: with Cam Wolf about the Dolphins running back situation. We
Speaker 1: know that Raheem Mostert has already been ruled out. Von
Speaker 1: A Chan is a game time situation, game time decision
Speaker 1: as he deals with an ankle injury Florida. I will
Speaker 1: start with you simple question. If a Chan plays, is
Speaker 1: he a must start on Thursday night?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean who are you going to play over him?
Speaker 3: That brings the kind of upside that he can bring.
Speaker 3: I mean, I last season, in the first game he
Speaker 3: played the Bills, he killed them. And I know speed
Speaker 3: hurts all defenses, but this Bill's defense in particular really
Speaker 3: has struggled against speed.
Speaker 2: In the past.
Speaker 3: The only way is if like we get a report
Speaker 3: like he's on a heavy snap count because even if
Speaker 3: he's not getting his normal workload, his upside is so
Speaker 3: high because he is so explosive.
Speaker 4: One house call and he makes your weak.
Speaker 1: So we know raheemos Whi's not playing Lakwan. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll see what a chance status is for the game.
Speaker 1: Would you play Jeff Wilson? I mean it's a Thursday night.
Speaker 1: I ideally you have other options and if you picked
Speaker 1: up Wilson off of waiver wire, is Wilson a guy
Speaker 1: that you feel like you have to slide in your
Speaker 1: lineup tonight?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a person that had a lot of raheem moster,
Speaker 5: so therefore I had to quick jump to go get
Speaker 5: a Jeff Wilson. So I'm at the point now where
Speaker 5: I'm looking at my other running backs like I feel
Speaker 5: okay secure, but I would like to get Jeff Wilson
Speaker 5: in a flex not a flex.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's a Thursday night football, but.
Speaker 2: You know the rules.
Speaker 5: But I definitely feel though if you're in a position
Speaker 5: there is some upside here. He looked really really good
Speaker 5: on those five rushing attempts that he had last week,
Speaker 5: Like he looks fresh, he knows the system, and I
Speaker 5: think they're a little bit more comfortable with him, Like
Speaker 5: Campbell said yesterday on the show, where I feel like
Speaker 5: they're just more so secured in this spot with Jeff
Speaker 5: Wilson that he would likely get a larger lump sude
Speaker 5: of touches with a chan possibly on a snap count.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look again for those who are uninitiated, and
Speaker 1: El Kuan's talking about it, Eli Quan's talking about it.
Speaker 1: If you have a guy on Thursday night, don't put
Speaker 1: him in the flex, right having to be a running
Speaker 1: back or a wide receiver. That way, when you get
Speaker 1: to Sunday you have a little bit more flexibility. You
Speaker 1: can come with another receiver, running back maybe tied in.
Speaker 1: Put that person in the flex. Do not lock out
Speaker 1: that spot on Thursday night. I would tend to maybe
Speaker 1: not go necessarily with Jeff Wilson just because it's a
Speaker 1: Thursday and who knows what you're gonna get. Hopefully, hopefully
Speaker 1: you have better options, you have other options that you
Speaker 1: can kind of go with later on in the week. Also,
Speaker 1: the dolphin run defense or run blocking, I should say,
Speaker 1: did not look great in Week one. That's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a concern for me. So if you got
Speaker 1: Wilson and you got to play him.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: If you have other options, maybe I think about your
Speaker 1: other options in week two. Speaking of Week two, let's
Speaker 1: get to some of our highs and lows for the week.
Speaker 1: We will start off with club dub what's pet a time?
Speaker 1: It was the guy who's guaranteed to score twenty five points.
Speaker 2: Now we're just going big.
Speaker 1: We're gonna say who's going to be your top scorer.
Speaker 1: Let's call it the top non quarterback score. So, La Kwan,
Speaker 1: who do you like to get into the club this week?
Speaker 5: I think Josh Jacobs is getting to the club man.
Speaker 5: The matchup is just who juicy not to see him
Speaker 5: up the top of the leader boards. I think there's
Speaker 5: gonna be some heavy lifting, you know, going up against
Speaker 5: this Colts defense who allowed over two hundred yards to
Speaker 5: Detexans and Joe Mixon. So I feel like there is
Speaker 5: some also PPR upside here because I don't see the
Speaker 5: Packers really asking Malik Willis to do much. It might
Speaker 5: just be a couple handoffs and a couple of dump alls.
Speaker 5: So there's some PPR upside for Josh Jacobs as a
Speaker 5: pass catcher. I'm looking north of twenty five touches, so
Speaker 5: big week for Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think the Malik Willis factor has to
Speaker 1: be included there. I know they're not ruling out Jordan
Speaker 1: Love just yet, but I mean, look, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: from Hey. It could be six weeks too. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: he might start in week two. Like, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Really that thing look nasty man, Like, No, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not really.
Speaker 4: It's gamesman ship, right, it's gotta.
Speaker 1: Be it's gotta be one hundred, it's got to be games.
Speaker 1: I'm ready coach those of you. Malik Willias, You're like
Speaker 1: really man, Like you can't just commit to me at
Speaker 1: least for one week?
Speaker 2: Like what are we traded for me? Like? What are
Speaker 2: we doing here? What are we doing?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Florida? Who do you like to go big in week two?
Speaker 4: Look?
Speaker 2: This guy?
Speaker 3: He's he's tall, he's bearded, he talks about football. His
Speaker 3: name is Cooper so to Lakwani's Matt Harmon, But Cooper
Speaker 3: Cup that's who who.
Speaker 4: Look.
Speaker 3: I he was my answer last week, and I was like,
Speaker 3: why you change it? Like twenty one targets last weekend?
Speaker 3: Lakwan could speak on this better than anyone. But in
Speaker 3: the first month of the season last this year, when
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup was out, it felt like half of the
Speaker 3: passes each game went to Pooka Nakua. It feels like
Speaker 3: that's going to be Cooper Cup's role until Pooka comes
Speaker 3: back and he plays out wide in the slot, both
Speaker 3: left and right.
Speaker 2: He could do it all.
Speaker 4: We know that he looked like vintage Cup again last week.
Speaker 2: I truly believe.
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's fantasy value shot up more in
Speaker 3: Week one then Cooper Cups.
Speaker 4: I'm seeing people on Twitter be.
Speaker 3: Like, would you rather have Amanra Saint Brown or Cooper Cup,
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase or Cooper Cup? Like he is back into
Speaker 3: that elite, elite first round water Sea.
Speaker 4: It took one week.
Speaker 3: He is gonna go off this week and what I
Speaker 3: think could be a high scoring game against the weak
Speaker 3: Cardinals defense.
Speaker 4: So, Matt Harmon, Cooper Cup, you are up.
Speaker 2: Oh, if you're beardy, if you're beady, You're Matt Harmon.
Speaker 2: That's all there is to I'm never gonna live this down.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I I'm glad people are big on
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup again, and I'm glad we're all back on that.
Speaker 1: But let's pump the brakes on this whole, like I'm
Speaker 1: on Rod Jemmark, Like they can all eat, we can
Speaker 1: all be happy with all these guys.
Speaker 2: It's been one week. Let's let's settle down a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm big on the Buccaneers this week against the Lions,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if they win the game. I
Speaker 1: think Detroit wins the game. But I am big on
Speaker 1: the Bucks offense having a good week. And I'm really
Speaker 1: big on Chris Godwin. We saw what he's doing back
Speaker 1: in the slot again. We saw Baker Mayfield distributing the
Speaker 1: ball Godwin last week eighty three yards after the catch,
Speaker 1: a big part of his game early in his career.
Speaker 1: It looks like it's gonna be a big part of
Speaker 1: his game this year as well. And last week, I
Speaker 1: mean Cooper Cup did a lot of his work from
Speaker 1: the slot.
Speaker 2: He cooked Carlton Davis.
Speaker 1: So David's gonna have another tough matchup this week with Godwin.
Speaker 2: I think he goes big.
Speaker 1: I think he finds the end zone at least once
Speaker 1: in what's gonna be a really high scoring game.
Speaker 2: So he's my guy that has a.
Speaker 1: Huge, huge week for fantasy managers over to we're calling
Speaker 1: the snore lax.
Speaker 2: It is our favorite sleeper of the week.
Speaker 1: And Claria bro lakwan, you went deep in your bag
Speaker 1: on this one man, who is your sleeper?
Speaker 2: And week deeper and dreamers, let's go de von Vley. Man.
Speaker 5: I watched some tape last week going man just under
Speaker 5: twelve fantasy points last week. And I know, Marcus, you
Speaker 5: don't like the guys that are close to the line
Speaker 5: of scrimmage. Man, but eight targets, eight catches, man, if
Speaker 5: it's free in this for me, those are fantasy points
Speaker 5: at the end of the day. And I think this
Speaker 5: is what's gonna be on the agenda going against this
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Steelers defense where a lot of their production was
Speaker 5: allowed in the middle of the field, close to the
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, because we had a guy named ray
Speaker 5: Ray McLeod for the Falcons last week. Find some production
Speaker 5: in the middle field with this linebacker coverage in the
Speaker 5: back of dvs. And I think that's what's on par
Speaker 5: for Devon Valley to be a guy that could just
Speaker 5: be the security blanket and just get all those targets
Speaker 5: and all those short catches. Because both Nick Saint stretching
Speaker 5: the field man three point three yards per attempt last week, Like,
Speaker 5: come on, man, this is the deep sleeper right here.
Speaker 2: How was he not?
Speaker 1: How is he not getting those same Villas Jones allegations?
Speaker 1: He's a twenty six year old rookie, Like, how is
Speaker 1: this not happening? Five ye six five? And we know
Speaker 1: Sean Payton loves him some tall wide receivers. I'm sure
Speaker 1: that has a lot to do with it.
Speaker 2: Now, this is a sleeper.
Speaker 1: Florio sleeper is more along the lines of like what
Speaker 1: we're hearing a lot of this week. The Tyler Johnson
Speaker 1: have his back. It's been dormant since I twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: It's back this week.
Speaker 2: I love Floria for this.
Speaker 3: We're going from one seventh round wide receiver to another. Uh,
Speaker 3: but let's do it like Tyler Johnson. I will say
Speaker 3: I like him. I picked him. I think I picked
Speaker 3: him up in like six or seven leagues. This week,
Speaker 3: I am putting my chips in on him. But it
Speaker 3: depends on your options if you want to start him
Speaker 3: or now. The reason I like him is because I
Speaker 3: think he is better suited to replace Poka Nakua. I
Speaker 3: think DeMarcus Robinson's role stays the same. He is the
Speaker 3: wide receiver three who's gonna play the perimeters. I think
Speaker 3: we're gonna see Johnson like we did last week when
Speaker 3: Puka went out bounce around. He played in the slot
Speaker 3: a bit, he lined up as a tight end. At
Speaker 3: times he played out wide, which is how they use Pooka.
Speaker 3: They put him in positions where he could win after
Speaker 3: the catch. And let's remember, this is a role in
Speaker 3: the Rams offense that was valuable before Pooka even got here,
Speaker 3: Like this was Robert Woods in the past. So if
Speaker 3: you're running these routes for Sean McVay, you're or someone
Speaker 3: that I am interested in for fantasy. I just want
Speaker 3: to see it one week to make sure that it
Speaker 3: wasn't just a pure in game thing. But like I
Speaker 3: have leagues where I have to start this guy. So
Speaker 3: if you're in like a ten team league, this isn't.
Speaker 4: A sleeper for you.
Speaker 3: But if you're in like a twelve team league with
Speaker 3: three wide receivers and a flex, you're probably going a
Speaker 3: little bit deeper if you have injuries or something like
Speaker 3: I am on some teams, and that is where you
Speaker 3: plug in Tyler Johnson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. I just said there was a Tyler
Speaker 1: Johnson high when he was in Tampa. It sort of
Speaker 1: went dormant. It is back, at least for one week.
Speaker 2: We are so back. You know.
Speaker 1: It's funny because, like you talk about comic books, right,
Speaker 1: everybody's like you are you DC, are you Marvel?
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: For a long time, I was the weird kid who
Speaker 1: was reading Image comics off to the side, kind of
Speaker 1: doing my own thing. So this week, while everybody's arguing
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson versus Tyler Johnson, I'm over here in the corner,
Speaker 1: like reading the Kolbe Parkinson comic book. That's my thing
Speaker 1: for the week, because we saw him get a lot
Speaker 1: of run last week, a lot of work in the
Speaker 1: Rams offense, and look in the past. This reason we
Speaker 1: love Tyler Higbee because he was getting a lot of
Speaker 1: opportunity when he was healthy and making plays. Last week
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals, Josh Allen did a lot of his
Speaker 1: work throwing the football up the seams, sort of in
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. That is where Kobe Parkinson
Speaker 1: does a lot of his work. That's the soft part
Speaker 1: of this Arizona defense. So look, Robinson's gonna get his
Speaker 1: Johnson's gonna get his. Do not overlook Kobe Parkinson, especially
Speaker 1: if you need help at the tight end position in
Speaker 1: Week two.
Speaker 2: I think he's got real sleeper vibes.
Speaker 1: I picked him up in a couple of spots where
Speaker 1: maybe I didn't like my tight end or I had
Speaker 1: some injuries. I think he's gonna get some real opportunities.
Speaker 1: Let's look now at the bounce back players, the guys
Speaker 1: who maybe let us down in Week one but are
Speaker 1: gonna revive themselves in Week two. And I love that
Speaker 1: Lakwan is going with the Aria Stark of the NFL
Speaker 1: for his Week two bounce back.
Speaker 5: Bounce back season for a mom Ross Saint Brown, and
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people need to understand Sean
Speaker 5: McVay locked hisself in a basement for months, limitted water
Speaker 5: and food watching that playoff game. A mon Rod put
Speaker 5: up one hundred and ten yards in that playoff game.
Speaker 5: He ended up with three catches in thirteen yards.
Speaker 2: In Week one.
Speaker 5: Huge blow to fantasy managers. But you just got to understand,
Speaker 5: you got to take that eld to the chin. I'm
Speaker 5: going with the Bucks going up against the Bucks this
Speaker 5: week where they allowed the second most receiving yards to
Speaker 5: slot wide receivers last season, in the second most yards
Speaker 5: after to catch per reception, where there's some wiggle room
Speaker 5: because we know Mon gets busy after to catch. So
Speaker 5: I think this is a matchup that a lot of
Speaker 5: fantasy managers will be happy about.
Speaker 1: A wide receiver has no name and he's just gonna
Speaker 1: go out and slay against the Buccaneers defense coming up
Speaker 1: this weekend. From your lips to the Fantasy God's ears,
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of people are hoping for
Speaker 1: big works from Aman raw Real from not a youngish
Speaker 1: wide receiver to a rookie wide receiver that we had
Speaker 1: high hopes for in Week one Florida. It didn't happen,
Speaker 1: but the hope springs anew in week two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's Milik Neighbors is going to explode
Speaker 3: in week two. Week one, I know there wasn't the
Speaker 3: volume that we wanted out of him, but he looked
Speaker 3: the part he put up positive EPA. He's the only
Speaker 3: Giants pass catcher that could say that he made some
Speaker 3: pretty catches. And we're already hearing the New York media
Speaker 3: be like, why are they not throwing to Neighbors more.
Speaker 3: Why are they not getting him more involved. I don't
Speaker 3: between that between the fact that they're gonna watch the
Speaker 3: tape and see what Neighbors did last week. I expect
Speaker 3: the coaches to adjust. And it could not come any
Speaker 3: better time because the Commanders allowed the most yards and
Speaker 3: touchdowns to wide receivers last year. They just got torched
Speaker 3: for four touchdowns by receivers.
Speaker 4: In Week one.
Speaker 3: And then this is the craziest surprising part of all.
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones has a history of success against his team.
Speaker 4: Sign me up from Elite Neighbors and we two.
Speaker 2: No, I'm in. I'm on board.
Speaker 1: I like Milik Neighbors just because the Commander's defense still
Speaker 1: looks like it is a work in progress. I like
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is a sleeper this week, so I think
Speaker 1: Leak Neighbors is gonna get a whole lot of work
Speaker 1: poster this week. Man, he ran a ton of routes,
Speaker 1: they moved them all over the formation. They just didn't
Speaker 1: get him the ball enough. I think they're gonna they're
Speaker 1: gonna fix that in week two. I'm going sort of chalky,
Speaker 1: but I don't care. Dereck Henry is a prime bounced
Speaker 1: back there.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: It's a prime bounce back in Canada in week two.
Speaker 1: I mean, we were all sort of surprised, I think
Speaker 1: a little bit to see Justice Hill get so much
Speaker 1: work in week one. We all chalked it up to
Speaker 1: game script. Game script's not gonna be an issue in
Speaker 1: week two against the Raiders. I think the Raivers are
Speaker 1: gonna go out, They're gonna score early, they're gonna score often.
Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, you're gonna see El Tractorcido pulling
Speaker 1: the weight and then some to close out the ballgame.
Speaker 1: So anybody who was sort of disappointed by the ten
Speaker 1: point six points or whatever it was you got from
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, I think you can relax because this week
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of Henry, not quite as
Speaker 1: much Justice Hill in the offense, and I think we're
Speaker 1: all gonna be fine. There started the show joking about
Speaker 1: us not being on IR but week one always seems.
Speaker 2: To be a ton of injuries. This week was really
Speaker 2: no different.
Speaker 1: If we're giving out advice, Florio to first time fantasy
Speaker 1: managers who suddenly find themselves dealing with a lot of injury,
Speaker 1: what would you say to them, breathe, it's not over.
Speaker 4: It's one week.
Speaker 3: I know it stinks when your players get hurt in
Speaker 3: week one, but everyone is going to have to deal
Speaker 3: with injuries. This is why you know the waiver wire
Speaker 3: exists and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Read Read our Sleepers.
Speaker 3: Marcus puts out like, you can find options to plug
Speaker 3: in and you're not going to replace Puka Nakua with
Speaker 3: one player or something like that. But that shouldn't be
Speaker 3: your goal. You just have to get by this next month.
Speaker 3: Go two and two or something like that. Because every year,
Speaker 3: at least in my I play in a lot of
Speaker 3: leagues and typically that last playoff spot or two is
Speaker 3: coming down to the wire.
Speaker 4: But that there are teams that are sitting around five hundred.
Speaker 4: So if you could just keep afloat while your star players.
Speaker 3: Are hurt, I know it might be rough, you might
Speaker 3: have some down performances and stuff, but it will be okay.
Speaker 4: Things will get better when they get back.
Speaker 3: And hey, this is why you take upside shots off
Speaker 3: the waiver wire, because maybe you get something that hits
Speaker 3: and you can plug them in right in that in
Speaker 3: that lineup spot. Maybe not week one, that wasn't that
Speaker 3: player unless you had like Isaiah likelier Dobbins on your
Speaker 3: waiver wire. But every week is another chance for a
Speaker 3: new breakout to hit on the waiver wire.
Speaker 2: Anything you'd add to that look.
Speaker 5: On, all I would just add is a strap in.
Speaker 5: It's just the beginning, Manna.
Speaker 2: This is nothing. I mean, that is a dooming blue
Speaker 2: way to look at it.
Speaker 1: But it's also true, right like it's week one, like
Speaker 1: more guys are gonna get hurt. I think the upside
Speaker 1: is that we didn't have in week one any major,
Speaker 1: uh you know, season ending injuries. Everything turned out to
Speaker 1: be a lot less severe than we initially anticipated. I mean,
Speaker 1: we were all worried about Jordan Love. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see how long he's out, but it's not as
Speaker 1: bad as it could have been.
Speaker 2: So this is a slap.
Speaker 5: On the back of the neck compared to the punches
Speaker 5: that are coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, be thankful for that for sure. And uh you know,
Speaker 1: we'll all roll with the punches and we will all
Speaker 1: adjust together.
Speaker 2: But stick with us.
Speaker 1: We'll offer you as many solutions as we can find
Speaker 1: to get you through the season. So that'll do it though,
Speaker 1: for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, Stay happy,
Speaker 1: safe and healthy, do good and live well.
Speaker 2: Enjoy Thursday night football
Speaker 1: And we will talk to you tomorrow wo