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Speaker 1: Good morningsrel then, welcome to the No Dunks podcast on

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Speaker 1: yard back with another weekend shift. I had to jump

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Speaker 1: on to talk about last night's Game two as the

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals. Very excited that Luna is joining me

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Speaker 1: us out in terms of ranking. So wow, what game

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler score in twenty seven as the Heat beat

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Speaker 1: the Celtics one eleven, one to five to take the

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Speaker 1: two oz lead in the Eastern Conference Finals. Where do

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Speaker 1: we begin? Plenty of blame to go around for the

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Speaker 1: Celtics defeat. You know, Joe Missoula made some right calls

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Speaker 1: when it came to Grant Williams playing over Peyton Pritcher

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Speaker 1: maybe made some bad calls when he went away from

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Speaker 1: time Lord and stuck with his guy Al Horford, who

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Speaker 1: was looking old out there compared to Bam. Blame to

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Speaker 1: your stars, for sure, especially Tatum and Jalen Brown. The

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Speaker 1: Celtics had a ninety eight ninety four advantage with like

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Speaker 1: five minutes to go, and you had Jalen Brown traveling.

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Speaker 1: Tatum did that twice in Game one, if you remember then,

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Speaker 1: when it was tied at one hundred, you had Marcus

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Speaker 1: Smart just straight up dropping the ball, just here you go,

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Speaker 1: give it to Miami. And then a few plays later

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Speaker 1: you had Tatum, you know, charging a little out of

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Speaker 1: control into Butler. There was the offensive foul. It's a

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Speaker 1: bang bang play, but he didn't seem to like argue

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Speaker 1: it all that much because again he was sort of

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Speaker 1: barreling in there. And then even thirty seconds left, Tatum

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Speaker 1: dribbled the ball off Jimmy's foot and then also dribbled

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Speaker 1: it off his foot like it was. It was ugly.

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Speaker 1: And then you gotta give a little blame to Grant Williams.

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Speaker 1: I know some people don't want to he played well,

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Speaker 1: like I said, but he challenged Jimmy Butler of all people,

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Speaker 1: after he hit that three pointer with like six and

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Speaker 1: eight eighty seven. The gardens going nuts, and Butler response

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Speaker 1: demands the ball because he's like, this guy's talking shit

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Speaker 1: to me. As we go back, you see the smile.

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Speaker 1: Incredible slow mow instant replay from the broadcast. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: Butler responds by taking Williams into the paint boom, just

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Speaker 1: drop the shoulder into that big guy, scores over him,

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Speaker 1: draws the foul. That's when we get the my buddy grish,

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Speaker 1: your buddy grish, our buddy grish forehead to forehead incident

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Speaker 1: between Jimmy and Grant Williams. We call it the my

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Speaker 1: buddy grish because he's done it a million times before,

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Speaker 1: usually not on a basketball court, usually when he's a

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Speaker 1: little too intoxicated. One time in Vegas comes to mind

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Speaker 1: with him going forehead to forehead. Anyway, we get double techs.

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Speaker 1: more severe than that. And then on Miami's next possession,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy scores over Grant Williams again inside, and then Butler

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Speaker 1: walking off the floor screaming. You know, they thought he

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Speaker 1: was the answer. Come on, that's your answer to the

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler problem. That's their answer. Come on, I'm watching

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Speaker 1: this game with friends. A little outdoor viewing experience here

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, gorgeous night last night. Had the projector up

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Speaker 1: Vincent misses an open three, a wide open three, Bam

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Speaker 1: Jimmy then misses a baseline jumper. He did miss bam

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Speaker 1: So Bam great. He also had that beautiful pass. It's

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Speaker 1: This is a game in which Kyle Lowry gives you nothing,

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Speaker 1: you know, the highs and lows. But Eric Spolstra pushing

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Speaker 1: Ben roorback of Yeahoo sports quote. The Celtics act like

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Speaker 1: if they never stop tugging, Boston will let go of

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Speaker 1: to win playoff games. Late Shoe had the stat that

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Speaker 1: the Heat are three and two when trailing by double

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Speaker 1: And Jimmy's done at time and time again, and Tatum

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Speaker 1: keeping the confidence high. You know, they can they think

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Speaker 1: to say all this, It's not like you're like now

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Speaker 1: the way Spoilster is coaching circles around Missoula, they Miami's

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Speaker 1: I don't think Boston's getting swept. I don't think so

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Speaker 1: unless they lose Game three and just completely wave the

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Speaker 1: five weeks ago Miami Heat, they're twelve minutes away from

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Speaker 1: being eliminated. You know, they lost to the Hawks. They

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Speaker 1: a few thoughts on this. Yes, of course it wasn't

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Speaker 1: The Celtics do this, as I just went over, the

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Speaker 1: the travel from jailing around all that. This is all true,

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Speaker 1: the contributions from the Heat players, you know, it all

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Speaker 1: But it won't come up. I mean it will come

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Speaker 1: I think things change. I do, I really do, because

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Speaker 1: Touching it gives him more powers. Okay, who is that?

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Speaker 1: I own you, good one. Rick. Yeah, someone did respond

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Speaker 1: Oh shit, watch parties for the EuroLeague action. We obviously

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Speaker 1: I am going to see Fast X today. It's happening.

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Speaker 1: right where everybody was there. Anyway, I'm babbling now, rambling now,

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