Speaker 1: I really don't know that much about Peter Murgatroyd. Um,
Speaker 1: I certainly don't know how to pronounce her husband's name.
Speaker 1: Was she can help me with. But I've seen her
Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars, and I know that she
Speaker 1: has been a vocal spokesperson for infertility and what you
Speaker 1: go through and mostly just her career as a dancer
Speaker 1: and pour a into beauty. So I'm really looking forward
Speaker 1: to talking to her. And here's my conversation with Peter Murgatroyd.
Speaker 1: It's so nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very honored right now to be speaking with you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Oh no, I'm very excited to talk to
Speaker 1: you too. And I see I see at the bottom
Speaker 1: of your screen it says your husband's name. Could you
Speaker 1: just pronounce it for me, Chamikovsky Chamiakovsky. Yes, so that
Speaker 1: is that your name to now? Chamiakovsky legally yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but I'm on his computer today because mine was okay, well, um,
Speaker 1: I am also my grand My grandparents are from Ukraine.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I watched you know, your husband when
Speaker 1: he was over there. Yes, it was a time that
Speaker 1: I would love to forget about it. Was pretty bad
Speaker 1: and amongst other things like you know, struggling with infertility
Speaker 1: and stuff like that along the way as well. It
Speaker 1: was just like a culmination of terrible things happening, you know,
Speaker 1: in the last two years. But yeah, you know, we've
Speaker 1: got to be grateful that he's out of there and
Speaker 1: he's he's fine. Yeah, and and how are you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm I think that I'm doing really good right now.
Speaker 1: I think I'm in a great place. I'm positive and
Speaker 1: hopeful and just um, it was just a little bit
Speaker 1: of a dark time to get out of, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: It was. We were really in it together, and you know,
Speaker 1: thank god, we do everything together. You know, it sounds
Speaker 1: corny and stupid, but we've got each other and that's
Speaker 1: kind of the main thing. So it does not sound
Speaker 1: corny and stupid. I am married for thirty four years
Speaker 1: and there's nothing I don't do with my husband and
Speaker 1: vice versa. So no, it's not corny and stupid. It's
Speaker 1: the way it should be. Yeah, I mean, congrats on
Speaker 1: thirty four years. And yeah, yeah, thirty four years, three
Speaker 1: kids and a new grandchild of a week. So it's
Speaker 1: quite a quite a journey. But you know, nothing. Nothing's
Speaker 1: easy in life, as you know, you know, it's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And how old is your You have a son, Yes,
Speaker 1: he's five and a half now. He just studied kindergarten
Speaker 1: and he's happy and thriving. And this is one of
Speaker 1: the things that I've kind of come to terms with
Speaker 1: that I just have to be I have to look
Speaker 1: around and be grateful for what I have. And again,
Speaker 1: that sounds so simple Lehman's terms, be grateful, but it's
Speaker 1: just something that I'm learning to do every morning, to
Speaker 1: wake up and look around and be be grateful, you know,
Speaker 1: because instead of more, instead of hoping for more babies,
Speaker 1: instead of hoping for a soccer team to come by,
Speaker 1: you know, it just is what it is and take
Speaker 1: life as it comes, you know. Now, well, you've been
Speaker 1: very open about your fertility struggles and you know, your
Speaker 1: first child, did you have issues getting pregnant with him
Speaker 1: or no? He was surprised. I guess it was just,
Speaker 1: you know, we're happy and working and just living a
Speaker 1: great life. And yeah, and then the second time, which
Speaker 1: was my first miscarriage, it was the first time we
Speaker 1: tried as well, so we thought we were on top
Speaker 1: of the world. Just you know, Oh my gosh, it's
Speaker 1: always the first time we try, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were just thinking it was easy, and from then
Speaker 1: on it just when you know, but there's still hope.
Speaker 1: Are you still hopeful in trying or yeah? Absolutely? I
Speaker 1: mean we're always you know. I thought about completely not
Speaker 1: trying for like a good six months now, just to
Speaker 1: get my body a break. But you know, I've definitely
Speaker 1: given it a break from IVF. I've had a good
Speaker 1: two months two months off now. Um, so I think
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue with that for like the rest
Speaker 1: of the year and then just kind of see what happens.
Speaker 1: But just sitting in a nice space of just positivity
Speaker 1: is just nice. Yeah, no, it is. It is really nice.
Speaker 1: And so so tell me, you know how it is
Speaker 1: to be back on the show. I know you took
Speaker 1: a year off, Yeah I did, and again, amongst all
Speaker 1: the other stuff that happened, I I didn't go back
Speaker 1: to the show, which I thought was the right decision
Speaker 1: at the time, and then I realized how much I
Speaker 1: missed it. You know, dancing is you know, the passion
Speaker 1: that fuels me, It makes me happy, it makes me, um,
Speaker 1: you know, emoting all of those emotions through the dance.
Speaker 1: It just it makes me feel good. And I realized
Speaker 1: how much I missed moving my body, especially during the
Speaker 1: ib F months, where you know, you're either bed ridden
Speaker 1: or you're on the couch, or you can't even you know,
Speaker 1: the most exercise that I could do was walking around
Speaker 1: the block. They said, so it's hard for when you're
Speaker 1: so active and when you're so physical with your body
Speaker 1: your entire life, and then you just have to sit
Speaker 1: and wait. Um, so yeah, I was. I was really
Speaker 1: really happy to go back to the season this time.
Speaker 1: You know, it's on Disney. Plus, it's kind of refreshed,
Speaker 1: it's renewed um. And I think I made the right
Speaker 1: decision because mentally it put me in a good space too,
Speaker 1: after hearing that the IVF didn't work right, because I mean,
Speaker 1: from most people that don't have a regular walking or
Speaker 1: exercise program, I don't think they realized it's just not
Speaker 1: the physical that your body doesn't feel as good, but
Speaker 1: it's really the mental. I mean, you know, the cobwebs.
Speaker 1: I clean the cobwebs of my brain when I moved
Speaker 1: my body, so I'm I'm sure it must have been
Speaker 1: It must have been difficult for sure. Yeah, but well,
Speaker 1: I mean I knew it was for you know, a
Speaker 1: great outcome. This is what I want to be pregnant again.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just like, oh my gosh, how much
Speaker 1: more sitting around? Can I can one possibly? Do? You know?
Speaker 1: It's like difficult. Well, you you've been an athlete your
Speaker 1: whole life. I mean you were a ballerina right until
Speaker 1: you're sixteen, is that true? And and you had an injury, yes,
Speaker 1: ankle injury. I had uh, full blown ankle reconstruction at sixteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was tough because that was what that
Speaker 1: was like my career trajectory. I was going to a
Speaker 1: prima ballerina either in Russia and Germany or London and
Speaker 1: that kind of just fell apart. So transitioned into boring dancing,
Speaker 1: found the local town hall down the road and signed
Speaker 1: myself up and kind of never looked back. And here
Speaker 1: I'm in Los Angeles. It's it's quite strange that you
Speaker 1: were this was this was in Australia that you did this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is all in Australia, right you were you were
Speaker 1: born in New Zealand, but you moved to Australia and
Speaker 1: you consider yourself from Australia, and yeah, I came to
Speaker 1: Australia when I was like eighteen months old, so I
Speaker 1: considered myself Australian. Yeah. Yeah, And you wouldn't have met
Speaker 1: your husband if you had followed that original path, right,
Speaker 1: So that's true. I mean, we met each other on
Speaker 1: Broadway in New York in one of the shows that
Speaker 1: I was doing there, and yeah, it's it's quite surreal
Speaker 1: because we were both with other people at the time,
Speaker 1: so he came in with the fiance I had a
Speaker 1: long term boyfriend, and there was just nothing like we
Speaker 1: never that about each other at all. Um. And then
Speaker 1: it was only when we came back to l A
Speaker 1: together for the season of Dancing with Stars and I
Speaker 1: had quit that ballt um that Broadway show, that we
Speaker 1: kind of just looked at each other in a different
Speaker 1: light and thought, oh, you were both single. Then when
Speaker 1: you went to l Yeah, yeah, And was it love
Speaker 1: at first sight? I mean, come on, your husband is
Speaker 1: so gorgeous and hot and sexy and all those things,
Speaker 1: so you know, and no, it wasn't it truly wasn't
Speaker 1: we I Mean I thought he was a good looking guy,
Speaker 1: but I feel I'm so I'm so far removed when
Speaker 1: somebody comes with somebody else, I don't even like put
Speaker 1: him in my peripheral like or anything. He's he's out,
Speaker 1: like he's not even a you know, you're not even
Speaker 1: a thought in my mind. So not well, your other
Speaker 1: your other boyfriend us have been also good looking, so
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, he's all right. Yeah? Uh and how
Speaker 1: many years you guys married? We have been marying five
Speaker 1: years now, but we've been together for about nine years.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's I feel like it's a long time
Speaker 1: as in, like for Hollywood, that's quite a feat, you
Speaker 1: know it is. And you work together also, right, yes,
Speaker 1: so yeah, what is what are what are the pros
Speaker 1: and what are the cons um pros? Is that we
Speaker 1: get to share our love for dance and we get
Speaker 1: to perform. You know, if we're on a tour together,
Speaker 1: we get to live that life every night and perform
Speaker 1: in front of a live audience. There is nothing more
Speaker 1: thrilling than hearing them clap for you and letting them
Speaker 1: feel your emotion. Um cons that if you're having an
Speaker 1: argument and you have to go out and dance, you know,
Speaker 1: you've got to put that face on. You've got to
Speaker 1: get through it, or you know, you don't agree on choreography,
Speaker 1: or you don't like this step, but he wants to
Speaker 1: do this step. You know, those sorts of things come
Speaker 1: up all the time. How soon after you guys that,
Speaker 1: did you guys get engaged? Um, well, we dated for
Speaker 1: a year and then we broke up for a year,
Speaker 1: got back together, and then it was about a year
Speaker 1: and a half of us being back together that he proposed.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it was a good I think
Speaker 1: it was a good timeline. Really, we kind of figured
Speaker 1: out that no, we really want to be together, and
Speaker 1: then um kind of made it happen and solidified it.
Speaker 1: And what was your first dance and your first dance
Speaker 1: song at the wedding? That must have been like unbreaking believable.
Speaker 1: To be honest, it was quite simple and we did nothing.
Speaker 1: My dress was so big that, um, we kind of
Speaker 1: left the performance to everybody else. We didn't do that
Speaker 1: whole look at me, look at me, I'm going to
Speaker 1: rip away my dress and a short dress underneath. Now.
Speaker 1: We didn't do anything. We just stood there and swayed
Speaker 1: and our song was from Brianna. Um, I literally can't
Speaker 1: remember what our song is right now. I will not
Speaker 1: tell him. I will not tell him. I'm sure he's not.
Speaker 1: It was an acoustic version of one of Brianna's songs
Speaker 1: like my mine. I do remember mine was Don't Worry
Speaker 1: Be Happy by Bobby McFerrin. I don't know why I
Speaker 1: walked down the aisle to that. It was our first song.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh my gosh, I love that. So
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about your self care routines.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people listening, you know, I talk
Speaker 1: a lot about you know different you know, issues about
Speaker 1: how to eat and how to take care of yourself.
Speaker 1: What is your philosophy and is there anything you can
Speaker 1: struggle with? Mm hmmm, Um, well, I was taught from
Speaker 1: a very young age. My mother was always were big
Speaker 1: on skincare as in when I was very little, always
Speaker 1: moisturized in my face when I went to school. I
Speaker 1: went to school with a shiny face every day with
Speaker 1: moisturizer on it. And people would always comment and say,
Speaker 1: you know, why do you have a shiny face? And
Speaker 1: I said, Well, because my mom put moisturize around me.
Speaker 1: She's making sure my skin is not dry. And um,
Speaker 1: I really thank her for that, because I feel like
Speaker 1: my skin has held up over all the years of
Speaker 1: makeup and crazy things would have to do with you
Speaker 1: being on Broadway and stuff like that. Um, But I
Speaker 1: always think less it's more. I think having good skin
Speaker 1: is when you look the most beautiful. Um. Seeing the
Speaker 1: skin through a light foundation is what I love the best.
Speaker 1: I hate that caked on powdered um. What do you
Speaker 1: call it? The baked looks like? Yeah, I mean each
Speaker 1: of their own. Everybody can do their own thing. But
Speaker 1: I just don't think it brings out the beauty. I
Speaker 1: think it just dulls your face down and you can't
Speaker 1: see who you are. Um. But yeah, less is more
Speaker 1: in terms of makeup and skincare, I think is just
Speaker 1: so important. A great I cream, a great hyrolymic acid serum,
Speaker 1: love that stuff. Vitamin c um and taking care of
Speaker 1: yourself on the inside. To M. Max and I are
Speaker 1: huge on vitamins, huge on collagen, huge on peptides. We're
Speaker 1: on a big pep type program for the last eight
Speaker 1: nine years where talk about peptides because I know a
Speaker 1: lot about college and I don't know a lot about peptides. Well,
Speaker 1: we we have been injecting ourselves with pep pipes for years, um,
Speaker 1: you know, for anti aging benefits, for other health benefits
Speaker 1: like performance benefits with dancing and stuff like that, to
Speaker 1: keep our um muscles going, to keep us from fatiguing
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Um it triggers the pecuitary gland
Speaker 1: to release um more of the hormone that keeps you young.
Speaker 1: And it's natural. Um It's it's nothing that can hurt
Speaker 1: you in the long run, but um it definitely has
Speaker 1: made a huge impact on my dance career. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm thirty six right now, and I feel like I've
Speaker 1: come back to the show after it was four days
Speaker 1: between my phone call of you're not pregnant to being
Speaker 1: back on the show. Hey, you've got a partner. You've
Speaker 1: got to be here to rehearse for eight hours a day,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I'm like, oh my gosh, can
Speaker 1: I do it? You know, getting back into the routine.
Speaker 1: I feel like my body is so um like I've
Speaker 1: really done well with my upkeep, with the years of
Speaker 1: training and stuff like that, with the peptides that has
Speaker 1: helped me. I danced with twin year old you know
Speaker 1: last night. I'm dancing right next to twenty year old girls. Women.
Speaker 1: I feel like I keep up, I hold my own still,
Speaker 1: and I don't look like the old woman off the bunch.
Speaker 1: Thirty six is a very young woman. So let me
Speaker 1: just tell you thirty six is still very are young.
Speaker 1: But so you don't just go into the health food
Speaker 1: store or Sephora and say, can I have some peptides?
Speaker 1: So what do you get? Where do you get them?
Speaker 1: What kind of a doctor? Um? Special doctors one that
Speaker 1: specializes in um, you know, microbiome that you know, our
Speaker 1: our doctor who has done you know, our surgeries. I
Speaker 1: had another ankle surgery, Max that's had knee surgery, tote surgeries. UM,
Speaker 1: he's also a molecular biologist, so he specializes in peptides.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, we've we've been on that road and
Speaker 1: that train with him for many years now. And you know,
Speaker 1: I've got to say it is the fountain of youth
Speaker 1: because my husband, he literally he looks the same as
Speaker 1: when he did when he was there and he's now
Speaker 1: forty two. So, UM, I really do credit everything to peptides. No,
Speaker 1: I must, I must get this doctor's name one day.
Speaker 1: It's very I'm someone that is very interested in you know,
Speaker 1: things that make you feel better, look better without you know,
Speaker 1: doing any harm. So yes, it's without all of the
Speaker 1: nasty stuff. It's you know, it's not engecting botox and
Speaker 1: fillers in to make you look more plump. It's just peptides. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't do botox or fillers or anything. I do botox,
Speaker 1: I do. I started when I was thirty four. Um,
Speaker 1: I hesitated telling people that because you know of the
Speaker 1: stigma of you know, oh you do botox because you're
Speaker 1: in Hollywood and stuff like that. But I found that
Speaker 1: with HDTV UM being on camera. I felt that by
Speaker 1: the age of thirty four, I was like, come on, Peter,
Speaker 1: bite the bullet, do it type of thing. So I
Speaker 1: do do botox. Yeah, no fillers though, so do you.
Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't by looking at you, I can't
Speaker 1: imagine that you struggle seeing yourself on TV and you know,
Speaker 1: not liking what you see. Is that something you've experienced.
Speaker 1: I mean in terms of face and embody. Absolutely, um more,
Speaker 1: I would say more so with my the way I
Speaker 1: have looked at my body over the years. I have
Speaker 1: just tried not to criticize myself as much. Coming from
Speaker 1: a ballet background. It was ingrained in me with how
Speaker 1: thin that I needed to be. At the age of ten,
Speaker 1: they would tell me that I put on weight. Um.
Speaker 1: I remember the day that I came back from a
Speaker 1: holiday and my teeth. My Russian ballet teacher said to me, oh, Peter,
Speaker 1: you know kind of pinched my side. And I was
Speaker 1: ten years you know, those things kind of stay with
Speaker 1: you for the rest of your life. And I didn't
Speaker 1: even remember those things until I I had moments with
Speaker 1: my body where I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm verging
Speaker 1: on an eating disorder right now. Like I need to stop,
Speaker 1: you know, I need to stop having these thoughts. I
Speaker 1: either have body dysmorphia or you know, I'm becoming anorexic
Speaker 1: or believe me or whatever you to call it. It
Speaker 1: all stemmed from chime with stuff. And yes, I have
Speaker 1: had many moments because my weight for weights all the time,
Speaker 1: you know, because you're a human. Yeah, because you're a human. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's hard, you know when you're on the show, Like
Speaker 1: right now, I feel really good about myself, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm fit, I'm lean. Um, But as soon as
Speaker 1: the show ends, I within a month, I put on
Speaker 1: five to seven pounds, probably more to the seven pounds
Speaker 1: and it's fine, but it's like keeping keeping yourself looking
Speaker 1: nice in between the seasons of Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 1: you know, is difficult too, because you just don't get
Speaker 1: the cardio that you get whilst you're on the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what is the cardio like, what's your what are
Speaker 1: the trainings like on the show? Well, the show is
Speaker 1: just strictly dancing. But you know, right right now, I
Speaker 1: don't need to go to the gym as much because
Speaker 1: I'm doing so much cardio and dancing and I don't
Speaker 1: want to lose any more weight. Um. But in the offseason,
Speaker 1: and I definitely have to get that gym membership, go boxing,
Speaker 1: go to pilates, you know, keep the strength training. I
Speaker 1: do everything to try to keep my weight att Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when so, when you're doing Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 1: how many months does it take out of the ear
Speaker 1: h It's about three and a half three and a
Speaker 1: half months solidly, no days off. It's full on the
Speaker 1: rest of your besides your son. I know you have
Speaker 1: a little makeup line or a start of a makeup line,
Speaker 1: so yeah, beauty brand, So tell me about that. So
Speaker 1: I wanted to create a tanning line that um was
Speaker 1: good for the stage and also good for everyday life
Speaker 1: because as you know, like you've seen the orange people
Speaker 1: walk outside really bad. UM. And I could never find
Speaker 1: something on the market that looks amazing on the stage
Speaker 1: that didn't look horrible and like an umpa lumper on
Speaker 1: you know. Three. So I created my own, which they're
Speaker 1: there brown, they don't go orange, they drive super um.
Speaker 1: This is the three tanning mooses, the light medium of
Speaker 1: the dark. They go on with my my mit. It's
Speaker 1: like a velveting mit and it has like a plastic
Speaker 1: inside so it doesn't go through your hands, and it
Speaker 1: honestly makes it streak free. It's so easy, it's you
Speaker 1: can't score for it, you can't go. And then we
Speaker 1: have the tanning mist and that is like a professional
Speaker 1: grade tanning nozzle. It's honestly like you're at the spray
Speaker 1: tanning booth, um and you can. I love this for
Speaker 1: the face because I think it's better than using the
Speaker 1: mooses for the face. Yeah, but you don't just spray
Speaker 1: it on your face. Yeah, yeah, spray to close your eyes.
Speaker 1: How do you do that? Yeah? Your roll your lips
Speaker 1: in Yeah, and then just do that all over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then don't you have to blend it in? No? No,
Speaker 1: I mean if you've held it too long in one spot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean you've got to keep it moving around
Speaker 1: and down your neck area. And it looks so natural.
Speaker 1: And then we did an extended met for the back,
Speaker 1: so you know, there were so many people that couldn't
Speaker 1: get their back and they're like Peter making that. So
Speaker 1: where do you sell it? We sell it online in
Speaker 1: selected beauty stores, spas retailers America and in Canada right now,
Speaker 1: so h and how how big is your team? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: we're restructuring right now, so um, it's it's about five
Speaker 1: to seven people west. But yeah, we're just about to
Speaker 1: make like a move with partnerships and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's interesting. It's going to be cool. Oh cool.
Speaker 1: I would love to check it out to find to
Speaker 1: find self tanners that aren't orange would be a game changer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll send you some. Just let me know
Speaker 1: where to send. I will and I'll send you some
Speaker 1: Jones Road because I don't know if you've tried. I
Speaker 1: have not, yea, So I will send you you know,
Speaker 1: the some of the Jones Road and UM, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to help if there's any any advice since
Speaker 1: this is my second my second beauty yes please, I
Speaker 1: mean you're the mogul like when I you know, I
Speaker 1: obviously know who you are. Um, and I love that
Speaker 1: tape of your products. But I couldn't believe I was
Speaker 1: doing a podcast with you. I'm like, I'm doing it
Speaker 1: with Bobby Brown, the makeup artists I said. I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: I've had I've had a lot of different like you
Speaker 1: know pieces, and right now, I think what I find
Speaker 1: so interesting and why this podcast really resonates with me
Speaker 1: is because like, for example, you're a dancer, you're you're
Speaker 1: on the show, but now you're a beauty entrepreneur and
Speaker 1: you know, you're a spokesperson for you know whatever, And
Speaker 1: so I just find that right now, you're allowed to
Speaker 1: be many different things and you don't have to just
Speaker 1: fit into a hole. So, you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: it's neat man, And I think it's amazing for people
Speaker 1: out there to realize there's nothing you can't do, no
Speaker 1: matter what your age or what your ability is. If
Speaker 1: there's only one way to do it, which is just
Speaker 1: to try it. Absolutely, I fully agree, and I wish
Speaker 1: I had done this sooner and listen to my gut.
Speaker 1: That's like my number one piece of advice is that
Speaker 1: I was I was nervous. I was scared to have
Speaker 1: my own line, and I don't know why. I was
Speaker 1: just you know, doubting myself, you know, in my younger years,
Speaker 1: thinking oh, how am I going to do that? Nobody's
Speaker 1: gonna want to do that with me? You know who
Speaker 1: am I? And then when I kind of bit the
Speaker 1: bullet and I thought, no, I actually know what I'm
Speaker 1: doing with tenny of us have done them for so long.
Speaker 1: I've used everything on the market, so I should know
Speaker 1: a thing too. And when I finally started to believe that,
Speaker 1: then like I made my vision look, which is like amazing.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what you got to do to get
Speaker 1: and you've got to, you know, many times, shift and
Speaker 1: shake the tree and get rid of you know, some
Speaker 1: people and add more people and you know, figure it out.
Speaker 1: I mean it's you're you're never exactly where you should
Speaker 1: where you have to be, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That's a good point. Yeah, Yeah, it's always evolving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you are, you are and you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: really neat. So for everyone listening here today. If I
Speaker 1: always like to ask my guests, if there's one piece
Speaker 1: of advice that you could give people that are listening
Speaker 1: that they say, okay, that could change the course of
Speaker 1: my life, for the course of my day, what would
Speaker 1: you tell them? Well, just a sort of piggy back
Speaker 1: off what I just said, UM, I would say to
Speaker 1: block out the noise, to listen to yourself more than
Speaker 1: other people around you, because other people will absolutely try
Speaker 1: to interject their opinions above yours and try to sway
Speaker 1: you from your track. If you know what you want
Speaker 1: to do, if you have a clear vision for for
Speaker 1: your for your business, UM, I say, just go with it,
Speaker 1: just run with it. Because I had a clear vision
Speaker 1: in the beginning and I didn't run with it, and
Speaker 1: I should have. This would have been out ten years
Speaker 1: ago if I had done that, And I truly believe
Speaker 1: that if I had believed in myself a little bit
Speaker 1: more and thought that no, I can do this, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I would have been way further along than
Speaker 1: I am right now. All right, awesome, And do you
Speaker 1: do you have ideas for other products? Yeah? You know,
Speaker 1: I think the makeup industry right now is super saturated
Speaker 1: with celebrity brands coming out, so I I would love
Speaker 1: to all be into it, just just a little bit,
Speaker 1: just to like finish off the line. I would love
Speaker 1: to have a bronzer that would match the tan, so
Speaker 1: they could bronze up the face a little bit more.
Speaker 1: And then like a line of nude lip glosses and lipsticks.
Speaker 1: That would be my goal, just to like finish that off,
Speaker 1: to have the whole complete body done. Um, and then
Speaker 1: bodycare you know, exfoliators, tan extenders, body wash that would
Speaker 1: accompany the tan. Well, um, those types of things will
Speaker 1: come next hopefully yeah, no, not hopefully. I see it.
Speaker 1: I see it. Well. I just have to say it
Speaker 1: was really a pleasure speaking to you. You're you're awesome,
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, I wish you were a lot of
Speaker 1: lock and everything. And We'll have our people exchange our
Speaker 1: addresses and I'd love to I'll let you know what
Speaker 1: I think and vice versa. I would love that. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for your time now my pleasure. Thank you, Okay, bye, Hi,
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