WEBVTT - What the Bears could do with the No. 9 pick | Bears, etc. Podcast 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:06.120 Cut over that DJ more zode touchdown touchdown pairs. I 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:09.280 am Jeff, Joni whitz is on dot go. 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:13.280 What was like playing for coach? 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:16.439 I don't want to answer any questions like that pressure 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:17.680 coming is a big trouble. 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:30.360 Dot Go Motest Sweat. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:26.760 Bears, et cetera. 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.160 Brought to you by Miller Lte with the voices of 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:31.440 the Bears, Jeff, Joni and Tom Sayer. 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.320 Welcome back to Chicago, Bears to have us all in 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.760 Lake Forrest. The off season program officially underway as of Monday, 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:42.599 the fifteenth, Tax Day time. I know we loved that day. 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.080 We just love a great time to reflect on how 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:46.680 you spent your money over the last year. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:51.879 I try to save as much as i ken Jeff. 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.720 Yes, you do. You know you're about as creative of 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:59.560 a fine like financial planners would love you. No, they oh, 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:04.000 you are spinthrift. 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.120 Right I am? I am spend thrift for sure, But 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.280 you know that's a story for. 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.200 Yes, it is. Anyway, It's good to be back and 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.559 ready to row in under ten days before draft days, 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.000 so it's exciting. Indeed, the Bears right now picking one 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.959 in nine and trying a new course for the future. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:24.560 And the doors did open up at hat US off 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.360 of the offseason program. I think twenty plus teams underway. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.680 So that involves you know, getting in the gym, Tom 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.040 getting in the weight room. That's a big part of it. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.680 Well, better not just start right now. That's a process 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.480 that has to start maybe two weeks after the season 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.800 is over, and then it's you kind of ramp it 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.600 up and then you get into that strength gaining period 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.319 that the Bears should be in now. But it's something 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.080 that they should have been a part of their own 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:53.800 trainers at home. But they have the one of the 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:57.400 top facilities in all the NFL and some really creative 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:01.480 minds up there to get themselves ready for the upcoming season. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.160 And you know, the draft is always an interesting time 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.240 for guys. This is a young football team. There are 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:10.000 some veterans on it, obviously, but roster positions are open 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.040 for business. And you know, I know you always, at 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.000 least you always told me you sweat it out the 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.040 draft weekend a little bit, right, because if they draft 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.680 your position, it's a full flop sweat right it is. 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.320 You know, you got to figure out, Okay, what type 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.560 of season did I have and how did my season 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.760 end and my exit interview with my position coach and 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:34.320 the head coach. What type of feeling do they give 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.920 you as you left the building. And then if you 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.440 sit there and they said, okay with the third picking, uh, 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.960 the you know, in the third round offensive guard, so 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.200 and so, all of a sudden you are unnoticed that 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.800 you did have an exit interview. But they're understanding that 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.680 this player was too talented to pass up. So the 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:59.160 competition increases at an alarming rate the night of the draft. 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.040 You played your whole care with the Bears except for 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.000 one year with the Dolphins, but there was no exit 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.120 interview with the Dolphins. Correct you or you were going 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.200 to retire? But if you did have one, give me 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.840 a Mike get Ditka exit interview and a Don Shula 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:12.800 exit interview. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:17.000 Well, Mike Dickett interview is more of an ex player 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.880 and where do you think you are going forward? And 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.880 the coaches always used to say, look, if your arrow 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.799 is pointed up, we're going to continue to coach you 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.640 like you're a member of this team. If your arrows 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.400 ever pointed down, we're going to look to replace you. 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.480 So you know, what type of how do how did 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.480 you what type of season do you feel you have, 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.680 were you healthy throughout the season, do you feel that 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.880 you complimented the offensive line throughout the whole year? And 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:45.960 how does your body feel at the end of the year. 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.600 And then Don Shula when he told me after the 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:52.680 last game I played for him, and I told him, 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.840 I said, Coach Shula, I'm thinking about retiring. He's Tom, 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:57.560 he said, Tom. One thing I want to tell you 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:02.080 is I never listened to that trend. The first couple 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:06.160 of days after the season's over, as we approach mini camp, 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.800 give us a call and let us know how you're feeling, 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.600 and we'll have you know, we'll determine, you know, we'll 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:17.279 make a determination at that point. So you know, Mike 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:22.560 Dicka never the seriousness never left his face or what 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.520 he expected out of you. I think Don Shula had 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:30.200 a different type of feeling about you in terms of 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.680 what you how you could help the football team, and 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:33.880 where you were at in your career. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.000 So did he give you like, Hey, Tom, we need 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.120 you to do X, Y and Z. Why don't you 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:42.279 coming in at this particular weight. We're disappointed in your 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:46.040 physicality in this particular situation. I mean, did he get 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:50.280 that detailed, because I do believe it gets that detail nowadays. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.760 You know, Mike never, Mike Dickon never knew that I 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.240 ever had to be encouraged to be in the weight room. 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:58.800 He never. He always knew that I was always going 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.560 to show up in shape. He knew that we are 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.120 kind of a committed group of offensive linemen, that we 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.000 are there for the everyday work process and with the 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.440 help of Dick Stanfeld. But you know, as you did 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:14.359 get older, and if he felt that your performance was sliding, 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.479 he would let you know and he would tell it, Look, 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.599 we expect better out of you next year. So you know, 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.440 come ready, but come to compete. You know, we're not 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.599 gonna sit here and guarantee you a job as you 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:26.479 walk out the exit room. 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.960 This episode of Bears, Etc. Is brought to you by 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:33.680 Miller Lite tastes like Miller Time, Celebrate Responsibly, Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.760 Ninety six calories and three point two carbs per twelve ounces. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.599 So the Bears are going to get better in a 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.960 couple of weeks. The draft is exciting. Picks one in 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:47.080 nine barring any trades, two impact plug and play starters. 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.839 What will that mean for this roster that's been reshaped 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.400 and built by general manager Ryan Poles and his staff 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.760 and coached by Mattie Refluse in your opinion. 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:59.160 Okay, let's feel that's gonna take Caleb Williams number one. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.960 Let's just assume that they bring in Shane Waldron, a 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:06.360 new offensive coordinator. These two have to attach a relationship immediately. 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.960 And then how much does the quarterback position affect the 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.560 rest of the offensive positions and then the overall performance 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.560 of the football team. And I think it's super exciting 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.440 from what we've seen over the pass of what a 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.919 new quarterback can bring to an organization for that first 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:28.520 year ie C. J. Stroud or many years down the road, 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.960 i e. Patrick Mahomes. So I think as an exciting 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.599 position anytime a new quarterback comes aboard this high in 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.400 the draft. And then, you know, I don't know what 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.800 to think about number nine, because Ryan Poles is a 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:46.159 super interesting GM that's been able to, you know, add 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.920 more picks throughout the draft, and that's what we've become 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:53.200 accustomed to. So I would target that player at nine 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:55.800 that if he was there, I would take him and 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.039 I would never look back. If I had a targeted 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.560 player at number nine in a couple different positions and 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.080 they weren't there, then I would think about moving back 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:09.280 and adding more picks. So I think it's super exciting. 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.680 It's something that we've been talking about since the day 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.440 the season ended, because you knew the Bears were going 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.760 to have the number one pick in the draft because 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.480 of what the Carolina Panthers and how they finished. But 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.960 I think whenever you talk about number one and number nine, wow, 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:25.840 I mean, you can add so much to a team. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.520 But you know, Jeff, it seems to me that over 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.760 the last ten years in the draft, no matter what 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.120 round you pick in, you can add a contributor to 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:39.720 the roster, sometimes immediately, like a guy like Braxton Jones 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.240 or a player that can develop into a special player 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:43.960 within a season. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.200 Two. Look at the La Rams did last year with 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:52.240 their defensive tackle Kobe Turner, and obviously Pokinako was and 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.600 they became a playoff team with a veteran quarterback. You know, 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.000 in Matthew Stafford, I'm the schedule for the Bears. As 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.040 a matter of fact, this year in twenty twenty four, 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.640 you know, there's clouds of players when you draft as 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.480 a general manager, you know there's gonna be a window 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.680 of players. So if it is tackle, or if it 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.840 is edge or if it is wide receiver, there there's 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:12.720 going to be a cloud of players, and you'll you'll 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:17.280 be comfortable with any of those players at various spots. So, yes, 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:21.480 I envision a potential for trading down. If that player 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.840 that you can live with and you still think is 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.640 greated the same way as two other players is still there, 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.840 you can get more draft picks. So you know, I 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:34.600 was almost singularly focused leading up into the really deep 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:36.760 dive of what's going on right now and just getting 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.000 ready for our show, our draft show on ESPN one 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.800 thousand on Draft Night and just the whole draft weekend, 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.840 and that leads us into the rest of the season. Actually, 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:48.240 with all this information is that you know, if somebody 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.199 wants to come up and get ninety, you can get 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.320 down into an area where you know you're gonna get 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.800 a really good day, one starter, even if it's in 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.760 the mid teens or early twenties, and you're gonna be 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.640 able to add maybe three more draft picks and maybe 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:06.080 one next year. I'd be interested in that. I don't 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.199 want to like everybody's saying, we're going to be talking 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:11.440 to Bucky Brooks here in just a moment from NFL Network, 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.880 their fine analyst and draft expert, former scout in the NFL, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.920 and a former kick returner as well. We're gonna talk 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:22.760 about some of that. But there's so many ways you 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.600 can go in building this roster even better than with 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.560 just a one and the nine that you know, I'd 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:31.559 be open to that, and I think you have to 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.199 be as a general manager, I would too, But I. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:39.040 Would have an edge, a tackle, and a receiver that 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.559 I would have. If they're there, I'll take them, and 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:45.280 I'm not looking back. If I had one of those 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.160 three designated to one of those three players and they 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.160 weren't there, then I would do everything in my power 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.080 to move back and get more picks. Also, Jeff, So, 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.120 when Roger Goodell opens to the draft and says, okay, 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:58.880 with the first pick in the draft, the Bears are 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.640 on the clock, I'm not gonna run to the podium immediately. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.280 I'm gonna let that time tick away to see if 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.280 someone is still gonna give me that interest call at 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.880 number nine. You know what I'm saying. So I'm gonna 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:17.239 add I'm gonna add more time to that ninth pick conversation. 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:22.280 And so if in everybody's going, oh my god, are 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:26.200 the Bears? Are they thinking outside the Caleb Williams pick. No, 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:29.400 But I'm offering more time for the number nine pick. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.000 Game day snacking costs for good foods, chunky guacamodi made 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.760 with has avocados, tomatoes, onions, sodachrowing a squeeze of lime juice. 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.680 Score some today at your local grocery store because game 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.280 day is guac day. All right, Let's just look at 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.440 the receiver position for a moment, because there's a chance 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:50.040 that that could be along with offensive lineman. Okay, Peter 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.240 Schrager from NFL Network did a mock draft, his first one, 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:57.520 but he added this nugget that he's just not throwing 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.880 stuff up against the wall. It is lying season in 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:02.760 the NFL. Of course, nobody's gonna show all their cards, 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.760 but he insists. And I have a lot of respect 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.680 for Peter Schrager, former writer and has done a great 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.160 job with Good Morning Football on NFL Network. But he 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.920 worked the phones. He's trying to make this an intelligent 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:20.240 mock draft. So he had nine offensive linemen in the 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:24.720 first round, eight wide receivers and a tight end, five 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:30.280 quarterbacks with Nicks the fifth Penix not in the first round, 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:35.040 and nine defensive players. So the most ever has been 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.520 nineteen offensive players in the first round. If this were 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.960 the case, would be the first time in history that'd 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.240 be that number of offensive players. So with the heavy emphasis 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.120 on the offensive line, receiver, I want to talk about 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:50.720 receiver for this podcast. You have what you have on 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.440 the team right now in DJ Moore. You have Keenan 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:58.480 Allen to all pro caliber players. They do different things, 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.360 they will compliment each other. You've got Tyler Scott and 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.600 as of right now, that would be your big three. 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.080 Baylis Jones is still there. He figures to be the 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:12.200 kick returner with competition. So are you looking for what 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:17.040 to compliment what you believe Caleb Williams will bring to 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.880 the table, what Shane Waldron will call as an offensive 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:22.920 coordinator and the scheme the Bears are going to run. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.400 So you want a guy who separates. Do you want 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.000 a guy who's going to be a fifty to fifty 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.720 contested guy. Do you want to run after the catch guy? 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:32.720 I mean, I know you want all that in one 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:36.959 but what don't they have what they currently do have 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.120 that interests you in the type of receiver, not the name, 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.120 but the type of receiver you're looking for. 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.920 You know, the biggest concerned when the Bears had Willie 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:51.440 gall was it would always make the safeties lineup deeper 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:57.120 than anybody else that didn't have that world class track speed. 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.560 And to me, if you know, like we're the kid 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.680 that ran the fast forty, you know, if you go 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.360 back and you look at his durability and how many 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:10.400 games he played and started, I would have interest in 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:14.400 a player that has that type of blazing ability because 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.600 you're almost guaranteeing yourself you're gonna have one on one 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.959 coverage or else you're gonna have the safeties that are 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.960 lining up so far off the line of scrimmage because 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.400 of that blazing speed concern. You're going to open up 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.840 the underneath for DJ Moore, for Keenan Allen, for Cole Kamet, 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.600 for Gerald Everett, for Swift and you know all the 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:38.400 other guys that have the opportunity to touch the football. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:43.080 And so, do I want a six foot receiver to 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.080 match up with Dj Moore? Not necessarily? Do I want 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.000 a guy that is a six one six ' two 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.640 guy like Keenan Allen, not necessarily, but is there that guy? 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.680 Is there a guy there that has that blazing speed 0:13:55.760 --> 0:14:01.719 that every defensive every defensive coordinator is has their safeties 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.800 already lined up off the line of scrimmage in a 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.520 backpedal position because if he does have that double move 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.400 or else he has that streak route and you don't 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.000 jump them, it's gonna be six. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.880 All right, Well here's how I'm looking U. Okay, so 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.640 most passes in the NFL these days are ten yards 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:23.360 or less. Correct you're slot receiver that is just a 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.320 dynamic route runner coming right into the league, a guy 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.840 not unlike what Puka Nakua did last year or what 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.360 guys like Edelman over the years, Ammondola or those type 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.800 of guys that you know they're gonna they are gonna 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.120 have a symbiotic relationship with their quarterback right out of 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.840 the gate because they're gonna get completions, they're gonna move 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.720 the sticks, and the big plays go for the outside guys. 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.320 Now not saying DJ and Keenan can't do that as 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.200 inside guys either, but a guy that is in that 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.600 kind of where he's gonna get yards after the catch. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.760 He's gonna be a physical player, he's gonna be a 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.240 guy and and and that's somebody that would be different. 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:05.280 What do you think of that? 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:10.040 Yes, but where Jeff looks those three guys that you 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:14.960 just mentioned, where were they drafted these you're talking receiver? 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.880 Is that you know, third, fourth? 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:19.600 Yeah? 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.120 You know ability? So you don't you you don't have 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:27.280 to go out and you know, get a Danny Amadola 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:28.400 in the first round. 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.920 And I'm not I don't care what round. I don't 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:31.560 care what round. 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.200 Yeah, but but if you're told so, I'm I was 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.440 assuming that we're talking about number nine. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.360 No, I'm just talking about what kind of receiver would 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:39.160 add to the mix. 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.840 You know, you know what is his name, Xavier Leggett. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:50.880 There's another receiver who is a profitable receiver. He's really good, 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.600 he's got good size, he's got good speed, He's had 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:58.600 a great career, and so you have to define exactly 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.840 what you're looking for out of that receiver position. And again, 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.800 I was with the assumption that we are talking about 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.240 number nine, and if you were going to add a receiver, 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.160 what was going to compliment this this group the most 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:15.560 and to me, it's always that guy that you know 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.360 a few years ago. The fastest forty in the history 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.320 of the combine is John Ross. Yeah, this is his 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:21.880 last name. 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:22.320 Yeah. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.400 And he he had no catches his rookie year. He 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:29.120 really didn't have a very good NFL career. But if 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.720 you look at worthy and you look at the amount 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.680 of games played, the type of program he was playing in, 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.480 he's the type of guy that if you're looking for 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.000 a blazing speed that has catches attached to it, he's 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:42.040 that type of guy. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.240 There's so many it's a matter of what flavor you 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.520 ice cream you like, right, I mean, there's so many 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.920 guys that are intriguing you here because of the impact 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.840 now of spread offenses in high school to the college game, 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.720 the seven on sevens, I mean, there are so many, 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.479 no question about it. Were brought to you by pee 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.440 Official Bank of the Bears. Let's jump into our conversation 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.240 with NFL Network analysts Bucky Brooks. Please to be joined 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.879 by one of the veteran analysts out there on the 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:14.080 NFL landscape from NFL Network, Bucky Brooks, And a reminder 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.680 that NFL Network providing live coverage of the twenty twenty 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.439 four NFL Draft in Detroit, April twenty fifth through the 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.320 twenty seventh. He is a busy man and kind enough 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.800 to carve out fifteen minutes with us. How you feeling, Bucky, 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:25.720 Thanks for joining. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:26.600 Us, Hey, thanks for having on Gus. 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.679 How you doing doing fantastic? You've been doing this a 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.520 while now, So I'm gonna start out before we get 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.000 a bit into your background. What have you learned about 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.040 the twenty twenty four draft class? Because each years, as 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.000 Tom and I dig in as well and get ready 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:42.720 for our Bears draft, we also look at the bigger 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.560 landscape of the league and everyone seems to be its 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.440 own animal. How are you looking at twenty twenty four? 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.520 Well, twenty twenty four is a bit of the COVID class, 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.760 and so what you have is you still have some 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.840 older guys who were granted the extra year from COVID. 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.960 You have some younger guys who are coming out, so 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.480 you kind of have a mix of players. When you 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.320 talk to people around the league, they will tell you 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.919 that it's a good draft at the top, but it 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:09.959 kind of falls off a little bit once you get 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.800 into the fourth round, just because the depth and the talent, 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:14.960 and so what you may see a lot of people 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:16.800 get out of those picks at the end of the 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.560 draft because they feel like there'll be better picks coming 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.199 down the road in twenty twenty five and beyond. 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.879 You know, Bucky. From the time you start evaluating the 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.280 draft getting closer to this year, and then you see 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.359 a couple of players that jump up with board. You know, 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.680 one guy like Mitchell, the defensive back after Jeft did 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.160 the senior ball, this guy is one of the more 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.840 talked about risers on the board. Is there anybody else 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:44.240 that stands out in your mind that has become that attractive, 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.160 you know, pre draft. 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.840 Guy, I would say like j Mitchell definitely has kind 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.800 of got the buzz. I think people are coming around 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.520 on Cooper de Gene from Iowa a little bit more. 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.720 I think there's a great appreciation for his game, particularly 0:18:57.760 --> 0:18:59.600 after he had a great Pro day the other day 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:00.560 we were four. 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.960 You throw in his time, his athleticism, with what he 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:06.880 was able to show at Iowa, which is a really 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:08.600 good program when it comes to producing. 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.400 Like everybody on defense, but particularly defensive backs, I. 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.760 Think the buzz is kind of he's kind of caught 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:18.480 fire of late where he probably could be a top fifteen, 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.320 top twenty pick. And I would say the other guy. 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:23.400 Medical is always an issue with Peyton Wilson from NCI 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:28.320 State inside linebacker, who prior to the Combine wasn't really 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:30.840 in discussion as a first round pick. But after he 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.119 runs four four five and does all the things that 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.320 he's been able to do, people are now considering him 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.679 as a first round and I think that's something that 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.720 many of us didn't expect given his medical situations. 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:46.760 Yeah's Tom's been on him. You've been on Peyton Wilson, right. 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.040 I'm just a little worried about that because he's so 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.639 fast and I think about the impacts and the collisions 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:53.639 he has with the injuries had How about this for 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.119 a question, Bucky. So you look at what brock perty 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.040 has been able to do and I don't like the 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:01.480 term mister irrelevant to me, another draft choice. And then 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.879 you look at the ascension of JJ McCarthy. You know, 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.440 there's more similarities between those two guys in body style 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:12.480 and four years in a college program, good coaching. And 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.520 then you see what brock Purty has been able to do. 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:18.720 Do you think that helps JJ McCarthy be more highly 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.879 thought of or is he his own is he as 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:22.719 his own person? 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:28.680 I would say the brock Purty example is a good one, 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.320 but I would say the guys that benefit most from 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:35.560 the brock pretty discussion will be Jade Daniels, who finished 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:39.639 his career with fifty five starts, Bownicks, who has sixty 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:42.960 one starts, and Michael Pennix, who is well over forty. 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:44.400 And the thing that. 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.600 We're seeing the guys who start a ton of games 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:50.760 at a collegiate level are better prepared to have success 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:52.240 at the NFL level. 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.600 When it comes to playing quarterback. That's just look. 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:56.720