1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups. History is 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Greetings, 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: gentlemen and ladies, Welcome to stuff they don't want you 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: to know. My name is Matt and I am Ben, 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: and we hope you're feeling all right. Yeah, we hope 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: everything is going okay. I know you're probably overworked, as 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: we all are right now in our jobs, trying to 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: maintain our mortgages and or rent and or all the 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: other things in life that we have to do. Sure, 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: and despite the stress they can accumulate in every single 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: person's life, whether it's money or a personal problem. Uh, 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: we do want you to know that. Uh, no fooling 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: people do care about you. That's right, your family and 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: your friends, even us here, Ben and I, we we 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: genuinely care. We hope you guys are doing all right. 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: And uh, don't do anything crazy is our caveat for 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: the beginning of this episode. Don't do anything crazy or 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: don't be impulsive and make a decision that you may 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: not live to regret very well. Put then, all right, 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: so we're gonna get started this this episode is about 22 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: some recent things that are going on. UM. And the 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: first part that we're kind of gonna go over here 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: is just a timeline of events and people, UM, specifically 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: people who have died recently. Right now. You probably heard 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: the headlines recently, beginning probably around January, right, Matt, about 27 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: what became called a spate of banker suicides. We're going 28 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: to look into that today in a little bit more detail, 29 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: and we're gonna answer some of the following questions, what 30 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: happened to whom, when did it happen, and how much 31 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: of this is sort of speculation and exaggeration, and how 32 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: much of it is proven and factual exactly. Okay, well, 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and get started. Ben Uh. The first 34 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: person that we're going to talk about is David Bird. 35 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: And he is not currently dead, or at least it's 36 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: not known whether or not he's deceased. He's a reporter 37 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: for the Wall Street Journal and he's currently missing is 38 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: but he's been missing since January eleven of this year. 39 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: And UM, he he essentially was helping his wife and 40 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: then he decided to take a walk and now he's gone. UM. 41 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: And the reason why this is or the reason why 42 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: we've begun with this is because as a reporter, he 43 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: was covering the oil and commodity markets that we're that 44 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: just happened to be under investigation by the U. S. 45 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations for Price Manipulation. Uh, and 46 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: we feel that this perhaps is a pertinent and UH 47 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: what I'd also like to note that I got this, 48 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: I got this at least partial list from news watch 49 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: dot us, which is an interesting website. But all of 50 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: these things that I'm gonna be telling you and Ben 51 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: will be telling you or have been corroberded by multiple sources. Right, 52 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: and Matt, I've got a timeline here that might be 53 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: a little bit different, So stop me. I'm if I'm 54 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: jumping chronologically. So the next step I have is Sunday, 55 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: January twenty six, London police find a fellow named William 56 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: broke Schmidt dead in his home after an apparent suicide. 57 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: Is at the very beginning of the year. One thing 58 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: that's interesting about Mr broke Schmidt here is that he 59 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: is a at the time his death. Rather, he's a 60 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: fifty eight year old former senior executive at Deutsche Bank 61 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: a G. So that is our first in this timeline 62 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: of bankers suicides. Again, his his death was ruled a suicide. 63 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: That's true, and one of the teresting things about that 64 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: is that Deutsche Bank was under investigation for hiding billions 65 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: of dollars during the financial crisis and um and potentially 66 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: even rigging the foreign exchange markets. So again, the reasons 67 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: that we might be giving you here afterwards are the 68 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: reasons that people are trying to make connections here and 69 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: make a full story rather than this man committed suicide. 70 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: This person committed suicide. Sure, and the emphasis there. What 71 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: I guess what we're doing at this point in the 72 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: show is showing individual pieces of what some people are 73 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: saying is a bigger puzzle. Yeah, we're we're putting pins 74 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: into the map, right right, yeah, yeah, yeah, and we'll 75 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: get to the strings. But again, uh, we've got some 76 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: pros and cons about these theories. But let's go through 77 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: the timeline. As you said next, well, I also have 78 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: another person who who died on the twenty six, Tim Dickinson, 79 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: who was a UK based communications director and he worked 80 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: at Swiss r E A G. And Um, it's a 81 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: little weird. There's not a lot of information that's come 82 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: out about him. Yet he died under undisclosed circumstances, at 83 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: least from what I've read thus far. So we'll we'll 84 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: have to get back to him, Okay. Uh. While we're 85 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: waiting to get back to him, I have something from 86 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: the next day, Monday, January, Tata Motors managing director Carl 87 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: Slim dies after falling from a hotel room in Bangkok, Thailand. 88 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: UH Police currently have ruled this as a possible suicide. UH. 89 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: Slim was fifty one. He had gone to Thailand the 90 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: Bangkok Tata Motors unit to attend a board meeting, and 91 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: he was staying with his wife the Shangri Law Hotel. 92 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: His body was found on the next Sunday, or his 93 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: body was found on a Sunday. Yeah, and his his 94 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: story may not be completely related to this, um, however, 95 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: it's still I think worth noting here. I also have 96 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: him on my listen because I haven't been able to 97 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: really put his story together at all yet with any 98 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: of this. But let's let's just remember that he's there, 99 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: all right, and then let's move on to Tuesday. Right. Yeah, Well, 100 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: the day after that, we have a man named Gabriel 101 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: Maggie who's a thirty nine year old JP Morgan employee 102 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: who died after falling again. Um, he fell off the 103 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: roof of the European headquarters in London. And uh at 104 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: the time, he was vice president of JP Morgan Chasing 105 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: Company's London headquarters. Well, vice president of the technology departments. Yes, exactly, 106 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: which owen to ask, does that mean he's an I 107 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: T guy? That's what it would seem like, or at 108 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: least maybe should talk to some people here now stuff works. 109 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: Just to know exactly what that meant, I'm not exactly sure. Um. 110 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: And again JP Morgan was under investigation for a foreign 111 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: exchange rates rigging Um. They were also reportedly under investigation 112 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: by the same U. S. Senate Permanent subcommittee that was 113 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: looking into Deutsche Bank. And we had a tragedy filled 114 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: week here because the very next day, Wednesday, January twenty nine, 115 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: Mike Duker I hope I'm pronounced that name right, Russell 116 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: Investments chief economist was found dead in what police say 117 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: is an apparent suicide. Uh. He died in Tacoma, Washington, 118 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: at a place called Tacoma Narrows Bridge. According to the police, 119 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: he took his life by jumping from a ramp near 120 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: the bridge in Tacoma. Uh. That's according to Associated Press. Uh. 121 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: But Bloomberg had an interesting note here when they said 122 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: that Mike Duker have been missing since January twenty nine, 123 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: and his friends and law enforcement have been searching for him. 124 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy. Uh. It's also here just to note. Um. 125 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: In in November two thousand thirteen, the New York Times 126 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:03,119 Speaker 1: had reported that that Russell Investments, for whom this guy worked, 127 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: was under investigation as well. Um, it's one of the 128 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: investment companies that was subpoenaed by the New York state 129 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: regulators investigating potential pay to play schemes that had to 130 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: do with New York pension funds. So a lot of 131 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: investigations going on that are connected up to these people 132 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: who are who are dying. Okay, so now let's move 133 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: on to my next one is February three. Yeah, yeah, 134 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: the next uh the next week that Monday, right. Yep, 135 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: man named Ryan Henry Crane. He was the executive director 136 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: in JP Morgan's Global Equities group. Oh. It says the 137 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: cause of his death has not yet been determined. However, 138 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: there is a pending toxicology test and that should be 139 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: coming out in the next three or four weeks. Yeah, 140 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: and uh he died in his Stamford, Connecticut home, and uh, 141 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: then we have let's see we fast forward. The next 142 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: thing I've got is Tuesday, February eight. Well, there is one. 143 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: There is one more on the sixth man named Richard Tally. Uh. 144 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: This one again, this is one of those that may 145 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: or may not be connected, but it's just worth putting 146 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: in here, I think. Okay, what did Tally do? Richard 147 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: Tally was found in his garage and he reportedly died 148 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: of seven or eight self inflicted nail gun wounds to 149 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: his chest in his head. He was the CEO of 150 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: American Title and he was also he started it and 151 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: was working with several investment companies. He started them and 152 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: then he was also working for them. Um. This one 153 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: is just really weird. And his company again was under 154 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: investigation by state insurance regulators at the time of his death. Okay, 155 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: I've got I've got a couple more here. Um so 156 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: February eight, Um a thirty three year old JP Morgan 157 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: four X trader. I don't have his name yet. Think 158 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: it's Lesion g in Hong Kong. Yeah, he Uh apparently 159 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: committed suicide in the eighteen thirty three, which is a 160 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: very young age, which happens to be February or the 161 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: isn't it yesterday? As as as we're recording this, Yeah, 162 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: let's go straight to the gist of the conspiratorial ideas 163 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: surrounding this. Let's just cut right to the bone here, 164 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: rip the duct taped off. The idea here that a 165 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: lot of people are saying on the internet is that 166 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: something big has gone down in the world of banking 167 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: and that uh corporations are excuse me, investment bankers are 168 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: silencing their own before the government gets to them. Matt, 169 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: what do you think about this? It's a really tough one. 170 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: And this is a tough situation because you and I, Ben, 171 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: we both know that all of these families right now 172 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: we're grieving, and I hope we're not. I hope we're 173 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: not tackling this subject in too into harsh of a 174 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: way or callous of a way where I really hope 175 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: we're not doing that. That's not the intent here, however, Um, 176 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: it would seem as though there is something going on. 177 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: This is a lot of deaths in a really short 178 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: amount of time, and there are a lot of investigations 179 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: going on in this exact same amount of time, and 180 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: it seems to me that perhaps there is something bigger here, 181 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to the foreign exchange rates. Um, 182 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of money involved with these things, and 183 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: there are a lot of players, and as we've we 184 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: found out over the years, been a lot of these 185 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff is connected a lot of 186 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: these corporations you know, together, and it seems like it's 187 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: something bigger. There's no way for me to prove this 188 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: right now, at least at our current standing, but the 189 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: feeling is there. I would say, yeah, I see what 190 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: you're saying. That I've had of time with this as well, 191 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: because we know, we know a couple of things, and 192 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: it's important to remember some critical thinking rules here. First. First, 193 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: we know that these people, while they may be working 194 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: in the same general industry, are working in enormous companies 195 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: in an enormous industry, and of course, like any other 196 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: pyramid or hierarchy, it gets smaller the further up you go. 197 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: But additionally, these people have these people have died, you know, 198 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: whether it's unidentified causes or whether it's uh suicide. These 199 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: people have died in different countries, um, under often different circumstances. 200 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: That's absolutely right. And we also have to remember that 201 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: they were working. They're working very high stress jobs. Um. 202 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: The financial industry is not an easy thing to tackle. 203 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: The words that you have to put in if you 204 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: want to be successful are insane. Um. Yeah, I've I've 205 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: got a few friends who work in that industry, and 206 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: it's just it seems to be a grueling thing. Yes, 207 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: especially when you get into you get in and your beginning, 208 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: maybe in your mid twenties, you're working an exhausting schedule 209 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: for very long time with very little time off. However, 210 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: these people were not spring chickens in this game. You're 211 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: looking at several guys in their fifties, a couple in 212 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: their thirties, and executives too. Right. Here's one thing though, 213 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: that I think it is important to say from the offset, 214 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: going back to the original point is making about critical thinking, 215 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: is that we as a society are still learning or 216 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: coming to grips with the idea that it's much easier 217 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: to transmit information. I wasn't able to find a good 218 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: reliable statistic about the number of average bankers suicide for 219 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: a year either, and I don't know if it would 220 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: necessarily apply, because some might be filed under you know, 221 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: economist suicides or i T. Communications director suicides, which would 222 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: be frightening if that was its own field. But as 223 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: far as I can find, there's not a there's not 224 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: something with which we can compare to figure out if 225 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: this is a case of legitimate um legitimate spate of 226 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: suicide or purported suicides, or if it's just uh, the 227 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: echo chamber of the Internet attempting to connect dots that 228 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: are not connected. And I I know that's such a 229 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: I know in a lot of ways some people would 230 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: find that offensive, but it is a necessary thing to 231 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: say when we talk about things like this. No, of course, 232 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm really glad you put that disclaimer in. We are 233 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: not in any way trying to um or not in 234 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: any way trying to trample on the memory of these people. 235 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: What we are trying to do is figure out whether 236 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: or not there could be something to this. I mean, 237 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: it's obvious now it is no longer conspiracy theory to 238 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: say that many international banks are breaking numerous laws. That's 239 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: pretty much clear. Yeah, they're they're doing it. They will 240 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: get caught and then they will pay a nominal fee 241 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: in order to continue doing business. It's like it's like 242 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: taxation at this point. We we did our episode on 243 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: HSBC Are Digging Deeper. That was one of my favorite 244 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: things we ever covered because it was just such an 245 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: obvious and it is a conspiracy because there are men 246 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: conspiring to break the law willingly. Sure, again, that's such 247 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: a weird concept to me, but but it hasn't stopped, 248 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: especially with the lieb Or scandals that have been going on. 249 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: It takes me to a really dark place. Man, I 250 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: don't I don't really like it very much, so even 251 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: contemplating this stuff. So at this point, what it sounds 252 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: like getting at here is that I'm a little bit 253 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: more hesitant to call this a conspiracy, and you're a 254 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: little bit closer to the side that says there might 255 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: be something going on. Yeah, And I think it could 256 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: be my own fault for you know, I'm being I'm 257 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: being I'm being pushed in that direction. I think because 258 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: of some of the media that I'm consuming right now. 259 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm knee deep in House of Cards 260 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: season two, right, you know what I mean, Like I'm 261 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: watching True Detective religiously and I'm all of these things. 262 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm just it's I don't know if it's doing it 263 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: or just maybe this is the lens that I'm seeing 264 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: things here right now, or maybe it's true. I don't know. 265 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it's true. It's certainly not unprecedented. So what could 266 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: it be then, because several of these bankers are JP 267 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: Morgan affiliates or former affiliates. But from what we know, 268 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: at least from what we could find, uh, these individuals 269 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: did not work together. They were not in related. They 270 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: were in like again, a related ocean, if you'll picture it, 271 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: but not the same strata or death. It makes me 272 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: think of Ozzi Mandius uh and the Watchman. Okay, I 273 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: didn't know if you're quoting Yates at me people who 274 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: haven't read the Ozamandius poem. Uh. Just as a side note, 275 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: you might enjoy it, especially if you enjoy our show. 276 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: It is about the downfall of empires. Uh. Spoiler alert, 277 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: I guess. But I feel like if you, if you, uh, 278 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: I feel that that poem was spoiled, you're a little 279 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: bit behind the game already. H So Ozamandius in the 280 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: Watchman is a different character. Maybe that one is something 281 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: that we should do a spoiler alert for uh. The 282 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: best way to say it is that I think what 283 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about here is the idea of plausible deniability 284 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: and compartmentalization. Right, That's what it's often called in uh 285 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: intelligence and tradecraft, you know, or spycraft rather, Uh, the 286 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: idea that one person can know part of a plan, 287 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: and if that person is caught, then we only lose 288 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: that segment of the larger plants. And and that segment 289 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: isn't necessarily ominous to any for any wide reaching reason. 290 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: And Uh, here's another thing that reminds me of which 291 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: might be a little safer. Remember that old children's story 292 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: about the blind mice and the elephant. Uh, the three 293 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: blind mice. Well, it's like a I don't know, it 294 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: changes sometimes depending on which culture the story comes from, 295 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: but the idea is this. They're these they're these mice. 296 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: They might be sometimes they're blind, sometimes they're not. But 297 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: the point is they're really small and they run into 298 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: this thing and they're trying to figure out what it is. 299 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: And one one mouse is feeling around the legs and says, oh, 300 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: this is a tree. This is a gigantic tree. And 301 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: the other one somehow I guess is involved with the trunk, 302 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: and it's like, no, it's a snake. It's after me 303 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: and someone else. No, it's a tail. Someone feels the ears, 304 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: the tusk, etcetera. And because of their limited viewpoints none 305 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: of the it takes them a while to realize that 306 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: it's all one big thing that's really good. It's an elephant, 307 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: rather than you know, palm frauds or whatever that's really 308 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: really good. Uh And maybe maybe that is what we're 309 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: looking at here. Maybe not, but perhaps it is part 310 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: of this massive worldwide kind of pyramid scheme that is 311 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: the financial world. Well, man, we live in the future, 312 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: so everything is worldwide nowadays. But I have to eat 313 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: even us. Isn't that weird? Uh? So we have to um, 314 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: we have to make sure we don't think about that 315 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: too much, because then we'll be like the cartoons of 316 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: Elmer Fud or Wildly Coyote where they walk off the cliff. 317 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: They're fine until they look down. Don't look down. Uh. So, 318 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: what I'd like to do, if you're okay with it, is, uh, 319 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: ask you if there are some ways that you can 320 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: connect some dots here. Now you've mentioned a couple of things. 321 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: You've mentioned the live war scandal, which is ongoing. You've 322 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: mentioned some of the shenanigans going on with foreign currency trades, 323 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: which is another huge avenue or huge vector you know what, 324 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use some terminology used in diseases. It's a 325 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: huge vector for corruption. And make no mistake, corruption is 326 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: a disease. Right. Uh So yeah, so I I'm I'm 327 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: on board. I want to hear this. Uh I want 328 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: to hear more about this stuff. Well, I wish, I 329 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: wish I had a ton more. I can give you 330 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: a couple of snippets. Alright, One interesting thing that happened recently, 331 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: which was reported on the seventeen UM. Everybody knows who 332 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: George Soros is. Oh yeah, one of the richest politically 333 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: active people in the world. Well, he's recently and well 334 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: he's had a bet for a while, a put option 335 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: against the SNP five hundred um, but he recently increase 336 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: that bet by a hundred and fifty and it's up 337 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: to one point three billion with a B building billion. 338 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: And it's a put option that basically says if the stock, 339 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: if the stock price decreases rapidly, he can still exchange 340 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: at a certain rate for a certain amount of time. 341 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: You know, that makes me think that does make me 342 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: think that sounds scrupt. I don't know if you can 343 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: be that wealthy or that involved and make that large 344 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: of a bet without some sort of insider information. I mean, 345 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: that's that's a lot of money, even for George Soros. 346 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: And to be fair, it's his uh, it's his fund 347 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: management or whatever it's called. I don't even know what 348 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: it's called. Does he now does he personally make the 349 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: calls for that or is it more like he is 350 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: just the controlling money? Plausible deniability dude, Yeah, it's like 351 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: a super pass, like there are three or four people 352 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: that have to go through. Now. I have no idea 353 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: if he actually does that or not. Um, this is 354 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: just from I got that from market Watch, by the way. Um, 355 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: And again that in itself isn't something to nefarious. It's 356 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: a guy with a crapload of money that's making him bet. Right. 357 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: But okay, but it's a bet that that basically everything's 358 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: gonna come tumbling down or at least pretty hard, and 359 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: he will still be profitable by being able to sell 360 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: it at that high price. Yeah, people in elevative positions 361 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: can usually smell what's on the wind before people down 362 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: on the ground, right to make a weird comparison. Um. 363 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: One thing that I think could give some context to this, 364 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: that I would say in defense of this, as in 365 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: defense of the current conspiracy theory surrounding this. One thing 366 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: that we can definitely say is that we know there 367 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: have been and active conspiracies to kill people in various 368 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: industries before there was an ongoing effort UM or at 369 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: least there was until very recently, to murder scientists in 370 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: Iran who are working on nuclear energy. And this sort 371 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: of stuff was denied with a wink and a nod 372 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: by UH politicians both in the United States and in Israel. 373 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: And we know that, I mean that clearly is not 374 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: apples apples comparison, because these Iranian scientists were obviously being murdered. 375 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: They were not being you know, they weren't found hanging somewhere. 376 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: But we've also seen other cases where scientists, um or 377 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: even former intelligence agents are found in what I would 378 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: say are questionable suicide circumstances, Like remember that guy from 379 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: the UK who was UH found zipped up in a 380 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: bag and they said it was a suicide. Yeah, I 381 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: never understand how that how that can even happen? How 382 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: do you how do you report that as a suicide? 383 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: And you and I have run into, um, a surprising 384 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: and tragic number of things that are clearly not suicides. 385 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: They're ruled a suicides. The old the old self inflicted 386 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: two shots to the back of the head. Yeah, and um, 387 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, interestingly enough, just to be completely double's advocate here, 388 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: I was reading about how it is possible to have 389 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: a two shots to the head, about how if the 390 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: first one isn't fatal and you're still functioning, and yeah, 391 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: you can just twitch your finger again. It depends on 392 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: the firearm too. Yeah, and I know that's a horrible 393 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: thing to think about, but just just to put that 394 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: out there. Well, at this point, speaking of putting it 395 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: out there, maybe it's time that we put this question 396 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: to our listeners. Right, that's a great idea, um, But 397 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: before we do, we've got some questions for you guys. 398 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: But before we do, um that, can you let people 399 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: know again where they can learn more about this? Absolutely, 400 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: there are a ton of places you can learn about 401 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: this stuff. Okay, So, first thing, if you're interested in 402 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: the foreign currency trading fraud or four x and some 403 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: of the stuff we were talking about. Of all places, 404 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: you can go to the US Commodity Futures and Trading 405 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: Commission website and they've got a ton of information in 406 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: there about basically signs of a possible fraudulent sales pitch. 407 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: So you can protect yourself, maybe your mom or your 408 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: dad if they're getting a little older, or your grandparents, 409 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: which is a real thing that happens. Um, that's a 410 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: really that's actually not a bad idea. Um, you can 411 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: go well, Um, this is a weird thing to plug. 412 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: But of all places, Reddit has been the best source 413 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: for this topic for me. There's been a lot of 414 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: people posting, and especially on our conspiracy a ton of 415 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: people just updating constantly with this stuff. And there's been 416 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: some great stuff on our old news. Uh yeah. Reddit 417 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: I think is a pretty valuable resource in a lot 418 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: of ways. Although there is a real hive mind and 419 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: it can be a bit of an echo chamber. As 420 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: we said earlier, Uh, there's this beautiful tendency, right, let's say, 421 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: beautiful potential for Reddit to fact check itself and give 422 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: itself the latest updates. Of course, there's also a tendency 423 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: to be cartoonishly pedantic to miss every point and to 424 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: have um a just the tragic confirmation bias of sorts. 425 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: And I do mean that for both those who conspire 426 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: themselves conspiracies, conspiracy theorists and those who consider themselves skeptics. Sure, 427 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: the great thing is that it it just gathers together 428 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: all of those different sources and you really have you 429 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: have to use that old critical thinking skill set that 430 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: you've got again and and use it to the best 431 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: of your ability. And while you're on the internet, why 432 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: not check out our site stuff they don't want you 433 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: to know dot com. Why not check out our Facebook 434 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: and our Twitter. We've got some amazing stuff coming out there, uh, 435 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: already out in some cases and coming up in the 436 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: near future and others. And by near future, I mean 437 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: when I get out of this uh studio, UM and 438 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: we want to throw these questions to you. We've got 439 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: some ideas that we'd like to hear from you about 440 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: with email. 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