1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Live from Media Row in Santa Clara. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 2: This is are we only filter? 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 3: We know we got we all, we all, we got to. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 4: We all, we got we. 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: All, we got we we all. 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 4: We got we all. We need the bad He's in 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 4: the bottom into tomin the. 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 5: League, presented by bya Toyota dot Com. 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 6: All right, welcome to day three here at Radio Row 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 6: in the Moscone Convention Center in San Francisco, California. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 7: Super Bowl sixty. It is Patriots unfilter. 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 6: Guys, it's Deuced, it's me, it's Paul, it's Anthony, it's 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 6: Matt behind the scenes, batist trying to get us guests, 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 6: which we're gonna have some right Natist, he's not. He's 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 6: giving me a thumbs up. It's gonna be another big 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 6: day here at Radio Row. Starting to really heat up 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 6: here at ten o'clock in the morning Pacific time. I 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 6: know it's one o'clock back home, and we're gonna get 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 6: at it today. Okay, we got a lot to talk about. Yeah, 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 6: let's get after it. 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 4: I feel like I've hit my stride this morning. Fred. 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 8: Maybe it was because I had a good night sleep 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 8: last night, but I've adjusted the time and it's just 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 8: it continues to increase in population here inside the Scony Center, 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 8: and it's crazy. Everywhere you turn your head there's just 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 8: an NFL Hall of Famer. It's Oh, there's Emmat Smith 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 8: and Jerry Rice hugging it out. Oh wow, not right now. 28 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 8: Sorry that was earlier, but I was just recalling. 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: You got me there, well, Jerry Rice did just watch 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 4: Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice. 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 8: I'm kind of over Jerry Rice, to be honest. I've 32 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 8: seen him so much this morning. But you know, Aiden Hutchinson, 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 8: I walked by him. He's a giant dude. I didn't 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 8: realize he's as big as he is. So just a 35 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 8: lot of people watching. I think that's what makes these 36 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 8: shows go so fast. 37 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 4: That while we were doing it. 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 6: But so far, the biggest crowd was around Kirk Kirk 39 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 6: Street's dog. 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: Yes, a well groomed dog. 41 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 6: I would say, very handsome, great tail, yeah great, very 42 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 6: handsome dog. 43 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 44 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 6: So it's it's pretty crazy. Lots going on. We'll have 45 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 6: some guests. I know what, ted Carris is gonna stop. 46 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 8: By Teddy one of the greats, one of the all 47 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 8: time locker room greats. 48 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 4: I'd say, am I limited time here? Yep? 49 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 6: We'll have a special kid reporter from Panini. Uh stop by. 50 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 6: She's covering the Patriots or he's covered. I don't know 51 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 6: if it's is it. 52 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 4: A boy or a girl? 53 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 9: So I don't know. We'll find out it's a boy. 54 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 4: Okay, do we know scraps boy, oh boy, gonna have. 55 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 6: A gender gender reveal right here. 56 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: It's a boy off the rails quickly today. That's great. 57 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: That's how we like it. That's how we like it. 58 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 6: It's uh well eight five five PATS five hundred is 59 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 6: the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address, 60 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 6: and uh so, uh the big thing that everyone's talking 61 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 6: about now right now is Tom Brady. Yeah, continues Tom 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 6: Brady just say he doesn't have a dog in the fight, 63 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 6: and people are upset. I mean Robert Splaine, who I 64 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 6: don't know why he cares, you know, but he says 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 6: what does he say? It makes him sick to hear that. 66 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: I didn't see that. I didn't see that one really 67 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: in fact, came out this morning. 68 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 8: I know Bruski came out hard and supportive of his 69 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 8: old teammate Mike Rabel as well. So a lot of 70 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 8: places around here are using that as a you know, 71 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 8: a springboard to ask about that, and. 72 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, and then I think, uh, you know Portnoy who 73 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 6: he did our our schedule release, remember that he was 74 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 6: spot on. As it turns out, everything he said happened. 75 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 6: But he's he's like, all right, he wants us to 76 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 6: move on. We're gonna move on. This is BS. So 77 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 6: I don't know what's going on. I I you know, 78 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 6: I would love it if if you want, we're on 79 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 6: the air. Okay, he's gonna walk right in front of him. Yeah, 80 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 6: I would love it if he wanted to call into 81 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 6: the show and we could talk Tom. Yeah, like, you know, 82 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 6: I'm sure he hasn't. 83 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 9: What's that you lead him on? A put him on 84 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 9: the couch. 85 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 6: I you know, we could talk to him and say, Tom, 86 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 6: what's going on here? 87 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 4: Like why? What is happening? What you know? Who hurt you? 88 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: Who hurt you? 89 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 6: And we think we know? 90 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 8: But yeah, yeah, Well do you think it's Saturday? Do 91 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 8: you think it's just been playing politics and trying to 92 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 8: like stay down the middle and not you know, do 93 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 8: anything to rock the boat of an. 94 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 9: I think you nailed it, Mike. 95 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, he has to. He's a he's an. He works 96 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 6: for Fox, Uh doing the games. He's part owner of 97 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 6: another team. Uh, that's just for starters. So I think 98 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 6: he wants to be above above it all. 99 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 4: But I don't know. 100 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, I saw Bill Simmons do a little walk and 101 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 8: talk to I thought he laid it out pretty well 102 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 8: and you know, just to say you need to maybe 103 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 8: send a message to Patriot fans how much you appreciate them, 104 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 8: and maybe that you do want the Patriots to win. 105 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 8: But I get why he's playing politics that well. 106 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll leave that one to the side. 107 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. 108 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 6: So but I don't know what what people think about that, 109 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 6: but it's it to me. It's sad because I had 110 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 6: this picture of of you know, Craft and Brady and 111 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 6: Belichick and everybody just riding off into the sunset and 112 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 6: enjoying what they did together and each being at the 113 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 6: other's all of Hall of Fame induction. I tried to 114 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 6: you know, kumbayah and you know get togethers and all 115 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 6: that is. 116 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 10: Just it's kind of simple, like I just don't think 117 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 10: he ever cared as much as you did. Yeah, it's 118 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 10: one of those, you know, And and it doesn't mean 119 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 10: that he's a bad guy. 120 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. 121 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 10: I don't need to make any personal attacks, you know. 122 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 10: I think Mike, we were talking about this a little 123 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 10: yesterday and you were like, you weren't really all that 124 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 10: bothered by it. Fred's a little bit more bothered. I said, 125 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 10: I was kind of in the middle, and I just 126 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 10: feel like he was tremendous. He's a tremendous player, But 127 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 10: I don't think that he had that connection and affection 128 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 10: for the area ever. 129 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: Ever. 130 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 9: I don't think he ever. 131 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 10: Fully embraced being a Bostonian being in New England. He 132 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 10: played football here, right, and that's what it was for him. 133 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 10: That was kind of the extent of his relationship. Did 134 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 10: he love playing here? I'm sure he did. I'm sure 135 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 10: he loved you know, the wins and the adulation that 136 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 10: the fans gave him. He's never been one that's been 137 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 10: overly comfortable, sort of you know in the spotlight away. 138 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 10: You know, like he used to complain often about you know, 139 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 10: not being able to have dinner. 140 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: And such, you know, stuff like that. 141 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 10: But then as you move on to his post football life, right, 142 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 10: it's what you guys. 143 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: Are just talking about. 144 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 9: He's got to kind of play it down the middle. 145 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 10: He can't alienate the section of the fan base when 146 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 10: you're a broadcaster first and then even a part owner, 147 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 10: like Fred said, I mean, you know, he he has 148 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 10: that affection for San Francisco. 149 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 9: He's narrating the Niners new documentary. 150 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 7: Is that right? 151 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 152 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 10: All right, san Francisco. That might be a bridge too far. 153 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 10: Like the love, like the love that you're looking for. 154 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 10: He had for San Francisco. That's what made him. 155 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 9: Fall in love with football. 156 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 8: I think the thing too, that that's I don't know 157 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 8: what word is exactly, but it's funny that probably the 158 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 8: fan base that might have hated Tom Brady the most 159 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 8: at first, he now is a part owner of their 160 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 8: team because of the tuck rule, right and the Raiders. 161 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 8: I'm still I'm sure that still stings. So it's I 162 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 8: guess a little painful that he has to play down 163 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 8: the middle to appease a fan base that did nothing 164 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 8: but hate on him, but for good reason. 165 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I understand they. 166 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 8: Felt like they got screwed out of sealing that game, 167 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 8: but protecting that kind of fan base and alienating your 168 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 8: Patriot fan base a little bit, I understand. 169 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 4: I just to reiterate what I said yesterday, though, I 170 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: still that six. 171 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 8: Twelve June twelfth ceremony with Tom Brady and Randy Moss 172 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 8: and everybody. 173 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: Oh that was that was just an. 174 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 8: Absolute amazing night, unbelievable and it for me put a 175 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 8: period on that whole period And to be honest, I 176 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 8: want to focus on this, this new team and the 177 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 8: new energy that's here and not digging up all the past. 178 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 6: But you know, he stood in front of us and 179 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 6: said I am a patriot for life. So I wonder, 180 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 6: like in his head, what does that mean? 181 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 7: And you bought it. I did hook line and sinker. 182 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: He hasn't been back since. 183 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 8: He's like the director they had a content tried to 184 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 8: kiss me once. I can't go back to that place. 185 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, Well you mentioned, you know, I want 186 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 6: to focus on this team, and uh you know this 187 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 6: this uh, this team is in the super Bowl. And 188 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 6: Robert Splaine, in the same availability today said he is 189 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 6: one hundred percent certain he will play and. 190 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: Then he didn't and then he was out yesterday. So 191 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: what does that mean? 192 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 6: That doesn't you know, maybe it's by design, it's you know, 193 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 6: not something that oh he had a setback, but maybe 194 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 6: they're just they're resting him. 195 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 4: He knows what he needs to do. 196 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, But I'd go back to what doctor Childs said yesterday, 197 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 8: and that's, you know, what what level is he going 198 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 8: to be able to perform? And if you're still having 199 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 8: to protect him four days before the super Bowl, there's 200 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 8: a clear sign to me that even if he does play, 201 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 8: he's going to be limited. And you know, and so 202 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 8: it's it's how long can he go? Is he gonna 203 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 8: get reinjured? I mean, I really like doctor Childs points 204 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 8: yesterday just about the firmness of the surface in Denver 205 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 8: and how that was actually you know, a factor with 206 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 8: an ankle that you can't really dig in and cut 207 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 8: as well as he ken, it's going to put more 208 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 8: stress on that injury. 209 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 4: So we'll see today. 210 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 8: You know, I think today is what third down day, 211 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 8: but you know usually Wednesdays are first and second down day, 212 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 8: and that's to me is Robert spolene time to shine. 213 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 8: Games are one on third down though, So if he's 214 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 8: out there today, I'll have some optimism. But right now 215 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 8: I'd say I'm concerned that even if he plays, he's. 216 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 4: Going to be he's gonna be limited. 217 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 10: And I thought it was interesting we talked a little 218 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 10: bit more with doctor Chow off the air when our 219 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 10: show inded yesterday and him just talking about, you know, 220 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 10: because we had brought the Harold Landry issue to his attention. 221 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 10: He went back and saw it, and you know, he 222 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 10: was sort of saying it might be an either or 223 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 10: like they might not be able to afford to have 224 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 10: two guys active in this game in Landry and Spolene, who, 225 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 10: let's face it, in the middle of the first quarter, 226 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 10: could both be down. You know, they tried to go, 227 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 10: they couldn't go, and all of a sudden, you know, 228 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 10: you're down. 229 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 9: Two roster spots. That could happen. 230 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 10: I don't know exactly how Mike Brabel's gonna, you know, 231 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 10: play play this. I think the way that Spolaine is talking, 232 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 10: I think he's gonna play. I mean, I don't think 233 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 10: you come out this strongly and say that if he's 234 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 10: not going to be in a lineup. But I don't 235 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 10: know at what level and what uh, you know, what amount. 236 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 9: Of plays he's going to be able to play. 237 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 10: And with Landry, I would say I'm a little bit 238 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,359 Speaker 10: more skeptical because you know, he has had such inactivity 239 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 10: the last few weeks. 240 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 8: Yeah, along those lines, Sorry, Federal quick just Doctor Chow 241 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 8: also came back over after Evan provided the play that 242 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 8: we believe Harold and Landry was initially injured, and Doctor 243 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 8: Chow's perspective on it was he all he could say 244 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 8: is he is a beast to be kind of able 245 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 8: to come back and play, and I mean to him, 246 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 8: you know this again, this is doctor Chow's assessment of 247 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 8: what he saw in the video in that New Orleans game, 248 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 8: but that he thought it was I believe he said LCL, 249 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 8: which is the outside ligament, and maybe a bone bruise. 250 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 8: But then he also asked, why do they list it 251 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 8: as ankle? And you know, so there's just been a 252 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 8: lot of confusion and uncertainty of exactly what Harold Landry's 253 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 8: been dealing with. 254 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: And the same with Spaleine. 255 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 8: I mean, I think we could probably speculate some kind 256 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 8: of and I don't know if it's a high ankle 257 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 8: injury or what, you know, a low ankle injury. But 258 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 8: with Landry tough to tell. Seattle's not exactly healthy. They 259 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 8: just had an injury in practice. 260 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 10: That's an enormous blow for them. And I don't know 261 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 10: it's early, you know, it just happened at practice. We 262 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 10: saw some video of him getting out of an ISSUV 263 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 10: in front of the hotel and limping noticeably. You know, 264 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 10: back in now, my first thought was, if it was 265 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 10: really bad, would he be walking, you know, would he 266 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 10: have some soot or crutches or something. Now you know, 267 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 10: he he didn't really have any assistance with him, but it, yeah, 268 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 10: he was. He was limping noticeably, and I think him 269 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 10: and worry that, Like, that's a big big I think 270 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 10: Evan compared it to almost the way Baltimore uses Kyle Hamilton, 271 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 10: and that's what he does. He's like a jack of 272 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 10: ball as he lines up everywhere. He's probably a linebacker yep, 273 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 10: first and foremost, but he can play you know, strong safety. 274 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 10: He's even played a little free they haven't used him 275 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 10: much in free Uh, he's even been on. 276 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 9: The defensive line at times. 277 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 6: Uh. 278 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 10: You know. Bill Barnwell had a really detailed breakdown of 279 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 10: just all the different things that he's done for that defense. 280 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: Which is impressive for a rookie. Yep, for sure. It 281 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: has a big loss, big piece. I saw another doctor 282 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: analyze again. 283 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 8: He said, I guess he did have a high ankle 284 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 8: injury earlier in the season, but he said it did 285 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 8: not look like it was a re injury of that. 286 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 8: If he was, to your point, Paul, he probably would 287 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 8: have had a walking boot on, uh so something a monitor. 288 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 8: But just from that video that somebody took of him 289 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 8: walking back into the team blocker or a team hotel, 290 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 8: looks like he's gonna be limited. 291 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 4: Well, we'll say, uh. 292 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 10: And the week isn't over yet, so I would just 293 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 10: stay always works out for the Patriot. 294 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 4: Away from ladders. Dam darnold. 295 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 6: Don't let anyboss your path. 296 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 9: He's already heard that's true. 297 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 6: He's got the. 298 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 299 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 7: So that's that's kind of the injury update. 300 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 6: You've seen some clips from practice on Patriots dot com 301 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 6: and the Patriot's social accounts. 302 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 8: Well, one more part of it. Drake was a full participant, 303 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 8: so you know, shoulders still listed, but full participant. According 304 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 8: to the media pool report, he did all the throws, 305 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 8: took one hundred percent of the reps. 306 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 4: So hopefully it looks like all signs. 307 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 6: We talked to people who were there and they say, 308 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 6: and look like he's got a bad shoulder to me. 309 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 6: So that's good news Patriots Nation. Our quarterback is he's 310 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 6: going to be a okay for the game, so and. 311 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 8: He needs to be that's to me and just say, 312 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 8: I feel like I have a developing sense of confidence 313 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 8: in this team. And I don't know if it's just 314 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 8: the fact that we're here and there's excitement and I 315 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 8: came here with just no expectations and thinking in my 316 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 8: mind they're the underdogs and you know, more likely than not, 317 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 8: Seattle's going to win based on that, you know, and 318 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 8: not trying to get invested. But the more that we're 319 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 8: around this team, the more that you know they get 320 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 8: grilled in all these media sessions over and over every day, 321 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 8: you know, with all kinds of ranging questions. It just 322 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 8: continues to hammer to me how much this team brilliant 323 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 8: joys playing together. And you know, we talk about the 324 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 8: power friendship, but this team definitely has that. They clearly 325 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 8: love Mike Rabel and I just think they're gonna go 326 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 8: cut it loose against this team and lay it all 327 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 8: out there on the line. I developing confidence here from Deuce, 328 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 8: who usually, as we know, can be a little. 329 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 4: Bit of a worry ward yep. 330 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 6: So last night O Lineman had their dinner and Drake 331 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 6: may I guess was a participant, and he said today 332 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 6: that so far this week, that's been the favorite thing 333 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 6: he did just have that dinner. 334 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 4: Uh so that was pretty cool. 335 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 6: So you talk about the bond of the team, Yeah, 336 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 6: and you know that old line's gonna have to play well. 337 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 6: They're gonna have to play well this game for the 338 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 6: Patriots to pull out a win. 339 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 340 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 8: What's interesting to me too, Fred, is that it's not 341 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 8: even like the individual matchups nobody's really talking about, like 342 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 8: you know, Lawrence on Campbell or you know those. 343 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: It's really just as a team, right. 344 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 8: This team rushes so well, and I think this is 345 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 8: a mental game for the Patriots offensive line of picking 346 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 8: up stunts, understanding Mike McDonald's complicated blitzes, and hopefully they're 347 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 8: all locked in and playing the game as we hear 348 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 8: so many times through one set of eyes. 349 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 4: Yep. 350 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 7: You know, the game itself. We talked about it yesterday. 351 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 6: Super Bowls kind of have their own vibe to it, 352 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 6: their own feeling. It's not like your typical game. You know, 353 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 6: the breaks are longer, the halftime is longer. There tends 354 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 6: to be a lot more momentum swings, you know, within 355 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 6: the game, games within the game. And I've heard players 356 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 6: say that you know, watch out about expending too much 357 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 6: energy up front. You know, the teams that come out 358 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 6: and you know, even before the first kickoff, they're like, ah, 359 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 6: you know, going crazy and slapping each other, and you know, 360 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 6: we love to see that. Go ahead and do that 361 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 6: because in the fourth quarter you're going to be exact. Yeah, 362 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 6: you know, it's that type of game. So we talked 363 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 6: about it yesterday. The advantage I think the Patriots have 364 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 6: is a guy like Vrabel who's been through it. He's 365 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 6: been through it as a player with success, and so 366 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 6: hopefully he can transfer that knowledge to these guys, most 367 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 6: of them who have never been here before. 368 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that experience is valuable. And you know, 369 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: I think Sam Donald's been around a while. 370 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 8: Though I'm not really anticipating him, I think that it's 371 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 8: gonna be on the Patriots to take him off his game. 372 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 8: I don't expect him to come out I agree as 373 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 8: a veteran who's been around, I think he's gonna come 374 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 8: out here and try to take advantage of this opportunity. 375 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 4: It's it's it's. 376 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 8: Gonna be up to the Patriots pass rush and especially 377 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 8: Milton Williams and Christian Barmore to get his head spinning 378 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 8: and to confuse him. I've seen plenty, you know, I 379 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 8: said to what I love this week is you get 380 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 8: every national media pundit, all their attention is focused on 381 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 8: this matchup. You get a lot of really interesting insight, 382 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 8: you know, a lot of minutia, that stuff that we 383 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 8: don't even talk about during the season. 384 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: But I just think that's that's such. 385 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 6: A huge key to it. You know, from what I 386 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 6: watched of the Seattle later in the season, the type 387 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 6: of throws that they're asking Darnold to make. It's not 388 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 6: like you know, uh, you know, low percentage throws. It's 389 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 6: very timing base. It's you know, quick, accurate, mid range 390 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 6: type of stuff inside. 391 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: And he's an accurate quarterback. 392 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, so they're not asking him to you know, be 393 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers. 394 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 11: No. 395 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 4: And I think A. J. 396 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 8: Barner is really an underrated player. You know, he's not 397 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 8: super dynamic, but he's just a really big body. And 398 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 8: I think he's the kind of guy that the Patriots 399 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 8: might just they don't quite have the size maybe to 400 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 8: match up with him, you know, maybe it ends up 401 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 8: being somebody like a Marty Mapu who is a little 402 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 8: bit you know, has a little bit of extra length. 403 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 8: But you know, you talk about Splain with a bum 404 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 8: ankle trying to tackle a J. 405 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 4: Barner. He gets, he gets a volume of passes. 406 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 8: I said yesterday, it's like they want to pound you 407 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 8: with Barner and Kenneth Walker. And then while when you 408 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 8: get so focused on those guys and stopping the short 409 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 8: stuff and being tough along the line, boom, all of 410 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 8: a sudden, it's going to JAS Center. 411 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 4: It's going all right. 412 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 6: Well, we're getting a lot of emails coming in at 413 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 6: podcasts at Patriots dot com, the phone number is eighty 414 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 6: five to five past five hundred Eleanor writ sind as 415 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 6: someone who has been following Drake May's injury since he 416 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 6: didn't practice, I cannot tell you how relieved I am 417 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 6: to see him finally practicing. What do you think of 418 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 6: his chances for MVP Offensive Player of the Year. Yeah, 419 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 6: that's tonight. Yeah, Yeah, I don't know. 420 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think he's I liked his chance 421 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 10: for MVP better, but I just it's hard. 422 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 9: It's hard to handicap these things. 423 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 6: Yeah. 424 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 10: You know, you listen to Mena Kaimes yesterday and she 425 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 10: didn't think it was close, you know, she she voted 426 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 10: for Drake May. I've heard other people say, you know, 427 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 10: it was Stafford in a runaway. 428 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I. 429 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 7: Don't think MVP it's going to be either mayor Stafford. 430 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 6: And then usually when that happens a quarterback, they give 431 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 6: the offensive to another position, and well deservedly. I mean, 432 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 6: this guy that they're playing today could be up for 433 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 6: offensive players. 434 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 10: I would say him, Pooka and those two guys to me, 435 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 10: should be the finalist for Offensive Player of the Year. 436 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 10: I was wondering when Drake was included among the finalists, 437 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 10: if maybe they had worked something, you know, maybe the 438 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 10: voters said, well, we're going to give the MVP to Stafford, 439 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 10: but we'll give the offensive player to May. 440 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 4: It just doesn't make sense, and I don't I don't 441 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 4: love that. 442 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 10: I mean, I could sort of understand the whole AP that, 443 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 10: you know, the AP sorry, the All Pro thing, when 444 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 10: they did that last year. Yeah, the All Pro wasn't 445 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 10: overly close, right, the All Pro quarterback wasn't overly close. 446 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. 447 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 10: I mean, I guess we'll wait a few more hours, 448 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 10: we'll find out for sure. I think Rabel, out of 449 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 10: all the Patriots people, has the best chance to win. 450 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it just makes more sense to me. Maybe 451 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 4: McDaniels too, right, the Games an assistant Coach of. 452 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 10: The Year, except Henderson's up for Rookie. I don't think 453 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 10: he has much of a shot at that. He's a 454 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 10: well deserved finalist. But I think it's going to be 455 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 10: Ted McMillan here today. So yeah, but I think Rabel, 456 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 10: Rabel and mc daniels, I think the two coaches have 457 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 10: the probably the best chances. 458 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 4: For the Patriots. Yeah, you know, you know this me too. 459 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 10: Then we get into the whole semantic argument that Fred 460 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 10: and I always have, like what is a comeback? 461 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 4: I don't know what the comeback player, I. 462 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 10: Mean, Digs is up for that, right yeah, yeahah, A 463 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 10: lot of Patriots up for the final as finalists. 464 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 8: It just makes more sense to me to say Drake 465 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 8: May was more valuable to his team, but Matthew Stafford 466 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 8: was an offensive juggernaut this year and he had helped 467 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 8: but he could do that, he helped push I mean 468 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 8: that to me is the most simple way to put it. 469 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 4: But I still feel like it's probably gonna be Matthew. Still. 470 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 6: That's my hope is that, you know, because matth Stafford had, 471 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 6: you know, such a great offensive year that you know 472 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 6: he'll get he got the All Pro and that he'll 473 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 6: get Offensive Player of the Year. Yeah, and then they'll 474 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 6: give the m v P because they'll do it the 475 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 6: correct way, and they'll give it to Drake May. 476 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 7: Yeah. 477 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I just I just hope this team gets some acknowledgment. 478 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not I don't really care to know. 479 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 10: I voted for May too, right, what because you were 480 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 10: looking at me as if to say, like, okay, Paul, 481 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 10: it's time to start arguing. We haven't argued yet. I 482 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 10: voted for May also, even though I don't have a vote. 483 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 7: Okay, you don't have a dog in the fight. 484 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 4: I do have a dog in the fight. It's Drake May. Yeah. 485 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 8: I don't usually care about the awards, but I just 486 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 8: I want to see this team get acknowledged. They had 487 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 8: a really special season, ten game win streak, turned it 488 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 8: around from a four win season. They need, they deserve 489 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 8: some love, especially now that they're in the Super Bowl. 490 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 6: Dan and Wales right say, I know Fred has been 491 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 6: banging the drum for a sneaky Milton Williams MVP bet 492 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 6: all week, but I think there's a good chance that 493 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 6: if the Patriots get to win, Hunter Henry May be 494 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 6: well the guy uh Seattle rank twenty ninth in the 495 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 6: league for yards allowed to tight ends during the regular season. 496 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 6: If May and Henry start linking up, I can see 497 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 6: a big day for eighty five. 498 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 9: Do you do you have odds on those? I wonder 499 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 9: I don't. 500 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 10: I would not look at Hunter Henry as being anywhere 501 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 10: near as big a chance as Milton Williams. Yeah, Like, 502 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 10: if Hunter Henry has a big game, Drake May is 503 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 10: gonna win the MVP. 504 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the thing. 505 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 4: It's you know, I mean, what is Hunter Henry gonna do? Like, 506 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: what's the like he got what Edelman did? 507 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, I was gonna say for Hunter Henry to win MVP, 508 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 10: he'd have to catch like twelve balls for one hundred 509 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 10: and sixty yards in like two touchdowns. 510 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 6: Yep. 511 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 9: Well that's just not going to happen. 512 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 10: The un Branch one MVP with double digit catches, Right, 513 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 10: That's what I'm saying. 514 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 6: But but but it's still it's rare that a receiver 515 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 6: gets it in the quarterback doesn't because he. 516 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 10: Branch did it two years in a row and then 517 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 10: he got the MVP the second year he had double 518 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 10: digit catches against Carolina and against Philadelphia. 519 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 8: Right, well, and Welker might have even been the running 520 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 8: in O seven. Then you have same similar kind of performance. 521 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 9: Ten You mean he wasn't a playoff choker? 522 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 4: Next, Mike, just your friendly reminder, just. 523 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 10: Your friendly reminder that you know he had you know, 524 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 10: ten catches for one hundred and something yards in the 525 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 10: Super Bowl. 526 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 6: Let's see. Tony says, uh, last Thursday, I sent the 527 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 6: email below and you all dismissed it. We don't all 528 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 6: just Fred And it has to do with a c 529 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 6: joint injuries. 530 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's why we did after you, after your 531 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 7: interview with the doctor. 532 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 6: Yes, and keeping in mind, when May was asked by 533 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 6: Scott Hansen if he was one hundred percent, he didn't 534 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 6: reply yes, he said, feeling great. My concern has only deepened. 535 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 6: Isn't this the biggest issue in the game? No matter 536 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 6: how well Williams and Barb are in our secondary plays, 537 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 6: If May can't throw the deep ball accurately and throwing 538 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 6: tight windows in the short and intermediate areas against a 539 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 6: good secondary that will sit in the short accurately, blah blah, 540 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: I don't know what he means, but otherwise what he's 541 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 6: saying is it we can't win. If May is in 542 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 6: one hundred percent. 543 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 4: Well he's not gonna be one hundred percent. 544 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 8: I don't know how many of the guys on the 545 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 8: team are going to be one hundred percent. You know, 546 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 8: it's he didn't have those things against these last three 547 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 8: games in the playoffs, they somehow were able to squeak 548 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 8: out wins. 549 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 4: I agree with this general sentiment. 550 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 8: May's gonna have to be really good, but I'm not 551 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 8: concerned that this injury is enough to be the thing 552 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 8: that completely derails him. You know, he's either gonna play 553 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 8: good or reason. I'm not gonna blame it on the 554 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 8: shoulder if he doesn't have a good game. 555 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 10: Wow, Mike, real balanced, thoughtful analysis, Paul. 556 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 4: Now, because you know what's gonna happen. Those shoulder was hurt. 557 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 4: What do you want him to do? You know what's 558 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 4: gonna happen. 559 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 10: And if he plays well, it's gonna be like he 560 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 10: only had one warrior. 561 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 9: It'll be one of two things. 562 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 10: Either it'll be it'll be you know, sort of blown 563 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 10: up it's bigger, or like it was the media's fault. 564 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 10: They overblew the shoulder injury all along, right, except for 565 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 10: Greg Barnard, who says it's a big nothing burger. 566 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 6: James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan of the world, 567 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 6: has a question for Mike James. 568 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 7: As a Super Bowl rookie, I'm. 569 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 6: Wondering how you're received as a member of the Patriots 570 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 6: media by everyone. Does he get scowls, thumbs up, confused looks. 571 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 6: Does being a Patriots reporter give some cachet given the 572 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 6: dynasty reputation? Do they think you're a better hockey ref 573 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 6: as we know all about as you know, all about 574 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 6: cheating and how to hide it. 575 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 8: I would just say everyone's been incredibly excited for all 576 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 8: of us who are here on our first try, first time, 577 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 8: and that's been really nice to see. I know, Paul especially, 578 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 8: just wants to make sure that those of us that 579 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 8: are the newbies having fun. And I'm, like I've been 580 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 8: saying this a couple of times, like I'm trying not 581 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 8: to get too reflective. 582 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 4: I'm just in it right. 583 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 8: Now and on the flight back and in the next 584 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 8: couple of weeks, then I'll look through my pictures and 585 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 8: realize everything that we just went through. But uh no, 586 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 8: it's it's so far. It's been an amazing experience. And 587 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 8: in the days just continue to get more and more exciting. 588 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 8: And we've got more people here today and. 589 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 4: We're about to have another Oh yes, right here go. 590 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 6: All right, it's a familiar face. There's a familiar face. 591 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 6: It's Ted Carris. Everybody, all right, Ted Carris on the show. 592 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 6: What's up? It's been a while. 593 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 4: We mess you. I miss you guys too. Jays in 594 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 4: the Big show again. Huh right, we thought not us. 595 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 4: I said that when they hired Josh back, are gonna 596 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 4: know what to do and now know how to do it. Yeah. 597 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 6: So house life the Cincy. 598 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 4: It's been great. Many it's going on fifth year, fifth 599 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: season in Cincinnati, so we love it. Really. 600 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 7: You put yourself together a nice solid career there. 601 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 4: It's been great. 602 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 9: The whole court in that locker room like you did for. 603 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 4: Us, I do. Yeah, it's not, you know, quite the same. 604 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 4: I would say Ted talks. There's some Ted talks. Yeah. 605 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 4: We had that whole thing with the PA, with the 606 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 4: trying to get people out of the locker room. It's 607 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 4: kind of but I got back. I got back with 608 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 4: my guys. I love my since he beat guys? What 609 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: the hats too? Ted? How are the hats? Hats are 610 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: doing great? We're actually we're we're about to break ground 611 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 4: on an apartment building for adults with down SYNDERM and autism. 612 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 4: The people buying hats and generous donations around Cincinnati. 613 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 6: So that's your your thing, it's my thing. Yeah, since 614 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 6: he hat dot com? Okay, yeah, that's great. How'd you 615 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 6: get involved in that? 616 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 4: Gosh, I just made this hat and then everyone freaked 617 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 4: out about it. Yeah, and instead of I, you know, 618 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 4: I could never see myself just peddling hats for money, 619 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 4: so I figured let's funnel it into But my mission 620 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 4: has been for most of my career, which is, uh, 621 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: you know, helping adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Ye uh, 622 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 4: find housing, independent living for that. That's great, that's really cool. 623 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: Are you going to branch out from Cincinnati? You think 624 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: or you know? It's yeah, I think, you know, one 625 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 4: of my main things I want to do is bring 626 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 4: infrastructure too. Since he but yeah, I think I could 627 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 4: take this anywhere. I think it is pretty niche and accelerated. 628 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 4: Being a you know, captain of the Bengals. Yep, yeah, 629 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 4: I'm just blown away by Cincinnai's generosity. And you know 630 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 4: they're fanaticism for the Bengals, and I want to do 631 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 4: a good job for them, and we win one for them. 632 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 4: They've been waited. 633 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 6: I have a I have a serious grudge against the Bengals. Nothing, 634 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 6: nothing personal, but me and the Bengals don't get along. 635 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 4: What happened. 636 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 6: I'll tell you off fair, I'll tell you off fair. 637 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 10: Spy Gate well adjacent, yah, spygate adjacent. But I do 638 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 10: have a question for you, Yeah, specifically on the game. 639 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 10: So Fred has a real outside the box MVP pick 640 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 10: for the Patriots if they win, and that's Milton Williams. 641 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 9: Okay, you got a chance to play it? Did he played? 642 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 4: He was? 643 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 7: He was? 644 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 10: He was out of the Bengals game. They goes my question. 645 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 10: I just love to saw right as I was asking. 646 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 4: Us that we got bar more too, though. 647 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 9: I mean, I talk about those inside guys and what. 648 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: You're seeing really good always. You know, whenever the Pats 649 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 4: are good, it's because their defense is really good. And 650 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: and then Josh finds a way to manufacture enough points 651 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: to really, you know, win win comfortably, I think. And 652 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 4: that's been there. Uh, Bread and butter yet again, I can't. 653 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: You know, I'm really impressed with what UH coach Rabel 654 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 4: did to rebuild this culture in a single year. And 655 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 4: there's a couple of guys, I think five or six 656 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 4: guys that have survived since when I was last there 657 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one. So I'll be rooting for the Pats. 658 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 4: It was the defensive scheme a lot different now. 659 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 8: I mean, we watched Bill's scheme forever, and you know, 660 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 8: now it seems they're a little bit more upfield trying 661 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 8: to attack with those two guys. Did you notice from 662 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 8: your perspective going against guys in practice and then facing 663 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 8: the Patriots now. 664 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 4: A little less base I think that. But I think 665 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 4: that's just league wide is a little less base defense. 666 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: But I mean they have their their three four no's 667 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 4: in Tonga, so I mean it's kind of the similar 668 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 4: program really. I mean, obviously Vrabel was raised in it, 669 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 4: but not in Belichick's tree, which I think is interesting. 670 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 4: Never coached with him, obviously played under him. I you know, 671 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 4: and if we're staying on that vein, shout out to 672 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 4: mister Craft. Unbelievable also should be in the Hall of 673 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 4: Fame starting right now. 674 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 6: So, yeah, that's crazy. 675 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 4: What's going on with the crazy? Don't make these guys? 676 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 6: Wait, So who's better than Bill Belichick that you would 677 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 6: vote for? Right, Like, I can't know, I don't get it, no, 678 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 6: or mister Craft. Yes, I mean absolutely. The whole threat 679 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 6: to a lot of guys. 680 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 4: I thought when I was there was there's not gonna 681 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 4: be enough room for how many Patriots need to get in, 682 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 4: right and if those two are locked, so there's there's 683 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 4: some guys waiting in the wings that are sweating because 684 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 4: if those two can't get in from the Pats, there's 685 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: gonna be. 686 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 6: Absolutely So one of the coolest guys in the league 687 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 6: is Joe Burrow. What's what's he like as a teammate. 688 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: Oh, he's the best man. He's a great friend. I've 689 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 4: been very blessed and spoiled with quarterback play over my career, 690 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 4: and I say it all the time, like one of 691 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 4: the biggest differences. You know, when I showed up to 692 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 4: New England, Tom was already in his forties, a living legend. 693 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 4: You know, I couldn't consider him a peer. Joe was 694 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 4: like my true blue, great friend peer, obviously superstar. The 695 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 4: whole quarterback thing too, I love it, and I think 696 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 4: he's had kind of a couple of tough, tough breaks, 697 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 4: but man, he bounces back quick. 698 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 6: And he wants, he wants to play, to do anything 699 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 6: with number nine, you know at the Helm. 700 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 4: So I'm excited for twenty twenty six. 701 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, how fun is it watching him with Jamar and 702 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 8: t Higgins those two guys. 703 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 4: Man, I will I sometimes you get spoiled too when 704 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 4: whenever Jamar catches the molly, like oh he's gone, Like 705 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 4: it's such a good feeling as no lineman just shot 706 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: down forty yards getting a field goal stands like done, 707 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 4: done for at least five minutes. 708 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 6: You mentioned Josh McDaniels manufacturing something like what is it 709 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 6: about him as a coordinator that impressed you. 710 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 4: As attention to detail? I mean I can still speak 711 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 4: the whole offense if if he put a quiz that, 712 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 4: if he quiz me on the offense right now, I 713 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 4: could nail it. That was ingrained into my soul. How 714 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 4: did he do that? Like, well, Scar was a big 715 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 4: part of that too. Okay, okay, yeah, but I think 716 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 4: one of the you know, the big things that he 717 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 4: really teaches offense well of what we are trying to 718 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 4: do here on this plague? What is the actual goal? 719 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 4: We're not just running a play. Why are we running it? 720 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 4: What makes it successful? What's the point of attack. I 721 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 4: just think the detail of how he teaches his offensive 722 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 4: schematics is better than you know, anyone i've. 723 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 6: And I think I think he got that from Bill, 724 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 6: because I think Bill one of Bill's superpowers was taking 725 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 6: complex things and simplifying it and being able to teach it. 726 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: It was like a football master's degree. You know that 727 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 4: that first four years of the five years I played 728 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 4: in New England. I mean I remember one year, I 729 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 4: think it was twenty twenty eighteen. I think I can 730 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 4: look back at my notes. I mean Bill called three 731 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 4: different times, like on a Tuesday Wednesday meeting that we 732 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 4: were gonna block a punt this week and we did. 733 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 6: Yeah. 734 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 4: I mean it was just like stuff like that, I think. 735 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 4: But back to Josh, I just think he runs a 736 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 4: very efficient, tailored to the opponent offense where everyone knows 737 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 4: what to do and how to do it. 738 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 10: I know you don't get a lot of chance to 739 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 10: watch the Patriots offense because obviously you're more concerned about 740 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 10: the defense. But what have you seen from Josh and 741 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 10: what he's done for Drake may what imprint have you seen, 742 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 10: you know, with the season that he's had at such 743 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 10: a young age. 744 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 4: I think he's very comfortable in what they're doing. I 745 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 4: don't think Josh asks him to be a superhero, even 746 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 4: though he can be. I think he runs the ball 747 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 4: at a volume that's appropriate for a second year quarterback 748 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: and also lets Drake use his legs when he needs to. 749 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 4: I think they like that in the AFC Championship game 750 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 4: to steal it like that's just another manufacturing your offense 751 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 4: to tailored to the opponent in the context of the 752 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 4: game you're in. That I think sets Josh apart from 753 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 4: a lot of play callers in the NFL. 754 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 6: What's the secret to your success in terms of longevity? 755 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 6: How do you How do you put together a career 756 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 6: like you've done? 757 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 7: Well? 758 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 4: A lot of luck and blessings. Yeah, but about seven 759 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 4: years ago, my wife became certified in yoga and pilates. 760 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 4: She teaches both and really put. 761 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 6: Me through flexibility. 762 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, really good chair posts. That's a tough one. Yeah, 763 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 4: it is a tone like that one that one if 764 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 4: they make you hold of her too long. But no, 765 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 4: my wife has really increased my athleticism and uh helped 766 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 4: me achieve longevity going into year eleven feeling great under contract. 767 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 4: Here we go. So it's the TV twelve kind of 768 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: method like flex. I remember one of the things Tom 769 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 4: told me as a young player was a lot of 770 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: people get hurt in the pilots because they try to 771 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 4: fight it. Like when you feel yourself going down, you 772 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 4: feel so in your legs go limp. And I've used 773 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 4: that for ten years now and it's saved me a 774 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 4: few ligaments. I feel. Knock on wood, yeah, know how 775 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 4: to fall? Know how to fall? Yeah. 776 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 8: Any thoughts on this Seattle defense. I mean everybody's been 777 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 8: praising them. I know you guys didn't play him, but 778 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 8: just have you caught anything of them? And what are 779 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 8: your impressions of them? 780 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 4: You know? I think that obviously they have a good front, 781 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 4: defensive front that's gonna probably if I was them, I 782 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 4: would try to attack the left side of New England, 783 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 4: even just because there's two rookies there, and I think 784 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 4: Josh knows that. I think there's gonna they're gonna be. 785 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 4: They've been scheming for two weeks, you know, probably to 786 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 4: account for that and there's gonna be some some help 787 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 4: since that way, But gosh, I think it's I think 788 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a classic kind of sobber knock or 789 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. I think it's gonna be two evenly matched 790 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 4: teams with good cues and good programs and good head coaches. 791 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 4: I'm excited to watch high score, a low score. I 792 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 4: probably a mid twenties game. 793 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 7: Probably. 794 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 795 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 6: Normal. 796 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a normal scoring game. 797 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 798 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 7: I like the pass. 799 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 4: I'm ready past for the Patriots. 800 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 7: I'm not all Tom Well. 801 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 4: I mean I'm playing man. 802 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 6: I can't. 803 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 4: I can't. I think I think the first five minutes 804 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 4: of the third quarter will give us who's gonna win. Yeah, Okay, 805 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 4: I think when we come out and you know, I 806 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 4: think it'll be even going into halftime that first five minutes. 807 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 4: You know what, what is Josh coming back with? I'm 808 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 4: calling a deep play action shot touchdown? Okay the third quarter? Okay, Right, 809 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 4: that's one thing. And just going back and thinking about 810 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 4: all my times playing. 811 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 6: In their drug so teddy, if people want to get 812 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 6: involved in in you know, your cause, how do they 813 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 6: do that? 814 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 4: Yeah? You can visit a v since he hat dot 815 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 4: com Okay, see a n C y de Since he 816 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 4: dot com dot com, you can find all our information. 817 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 4: It's really cool cause Cincinnati has been so unbelievably generous 818 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 4: with their time and money. And yeah, we're breaking ground 819 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 4: here and the end of this month on a seven 820 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 4: bedroom apartment building for Dulco down. 821 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 6: That's great. That's great. Well, Teddy, appreciate you coming on. 822 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 4: Thank you. Guys. 823 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 6: We're gonna talk a little. 824 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. Really, you guys, we don't have us many. 825 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 9: Well we have something. 826 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 4: You're a locker room legend. 827 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 8: Though people will talk about you that you were one 828 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 8: of the best guys in the locker room. 829 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: You know what. 830 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 4: I'm glad too. I'm glad Karen's finally getting her due. Yeah, 831 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 4: every day, it's been great. 832 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 10: And I have worked together for about Yeah, I was 833 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 10: at the Herald with Karen. I know, one hundred years ago. 834 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 4: I was. I've been looking for all morning. I don't 835 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 4: know if she's just a pros pro, she's been around 836 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 4: a little bit. 837 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, we'll take a break, Matt. When we 838 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 6: come back, more stuff from Radio Row. 839 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 2: Come on, come. 840 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 12: On, switch. 841 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 13: Switch. 842 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 14: Let there be ideas too big to stay ideas and 843 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 14: the software to make them sore. 844 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 15: Let there be anything Autodesk. 845 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 16: The future with AI will twist unturned. 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This green bar releases trapped hairs for 854 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 19: my face. 855 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 20: Game change it well. 856 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 19: A flex This contours to it so the five blades 857 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 19: can get virtually every hair in one stroke for the 858 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 19: ultimate ge Leet shaving experience. 859 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 20: The best to make you get is je Lett Laps. 860 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 21: We had a crime stop or tip come in. 861 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 13: We walked into a real one tonight. 862 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 22: How much you sit for twenty min Any ideas we 863 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 22: might want this money? 864 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 13: The cartel, dirty cops. 865 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 23: Where do you want to start? 866 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 24: It gonna be so much easier. We just stole this money. 867 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 13: I swear to God. 868 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 25: Come on, switch, come on, switch. 869 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 12: Switch. 870 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 14: Let there be ideas too big to stay ideas and 871 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 14: the software to make them sore. 872 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 15: Let there be anything. Autodesk. 873 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 16: The future with AI will twist unturned. Cisco is the 874 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 16: critical infrastructure for the AI. You're clearing your path to 875 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 16: wide open possibility. 876 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 17: Cisco. 877 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 18: Duncan's five dollar meal deal. 878 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 11: A yummy wake up wrap, a mediumized you hot coffee, 879 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 11: and six crispy Golden hash Browns. Duncan's five dollar meal 880 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 11: deal a deal for everyone. 881 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 19: It ain't my dad's razor dot hey watch it. It's 882 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 19: from Jellett Labs. This green bar releases trapped hairs from 883 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 19: my face. Game change it well to flex. This contours 884 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 19: to it so the five blades can get virtually every 885 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 19: hair in one stroke. For the ultimate to let shaving experience. 886 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 19: The best to make you get is to Let Labs. 887 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 21: We had a crime stop or tip come in. 888 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 13: We walked into a reel all tonight. 889 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 22: How much you sit man over twenty milt? Any ideas 890 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 22: we might want this money? 891 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 13: It's the cartel, dirty cops. 892 00:40:49,440 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 23: Where do you want to start gonna. 893 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 24: So many easier? We just stole this money. 894 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 26: I swear to god. 895 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 25: Come on, switch, come on, come on. 896 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 13: Switch switch. 897 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 14: Let there be ideas too big to stay ideas and 898 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 14: the software to make them sore. 899 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 15: Let there be anything. 900 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 16: Autodesk The future with AI will twist unturned. Cisco is 901 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 16: the critical infrastructure for the AI era, clearing your path 902 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 16: to wide open possibility. 903 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 17: Cisco. 904 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 18: Duncan's five dollar meal Deal. 905 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 11: A yummy wake up wrap, a medium Likester hot coffee, 906 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 11: and six crispy Golden hash Browns. Duncan's five dollar meal 907 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 11: Deal a deal for everyone. 908 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 19: It ain't my dad's razor DT hey watch it. It's 909 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 19: from to Let Lapse. This green bar releases trapped hairs 910 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 19: from my face. Game change will afflex this contours to it, 911 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 19: so the five blades can get virtually every hair in 912 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 19: one stroke for the ultimate to let shaving experience. 913 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 20: The best to make you get Just to Let Lapse. 914 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 21: We had a crime stop or tip come in. 915 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 13: We walked into a reel tonight. 916 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 27: How much you sit on over twenty mins? 917 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 13: Ideas? 918 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 24: Who might want this money? 919 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 13: It's the cartel, dirty cops. 920 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 23: Where do you want to start? 921 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 24: It gonna be so much easier. We just stole this money. 922 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 2: I swear to god. 923 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 20: This is Patriots Unfiltered. 924 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 23: Presented by Toyota's official website. 925 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 4: For deals, buy a Toyota dot com. 926 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 6: All right back here on Patriots Filtered unfiltered once again. Uh, 927 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 6: thanks for Teddy Carras for stopping by. That was good 928 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 6: to see him. And uh, right now Evan Lazares back 929 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 6: from Access. 930 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 4: Hello. 931 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 28: Ted Carris is the man, by the way, that's why 932 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 28: my favorite guys that has ever come through with the 933 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 28: Patriots locker room. 934 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 7: So when he was here, you was with Clinics, right. 935 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 28: I was with Clinis and he did not care that 936 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 28: I was, you know, twenty something up and coming, first 937 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 28: time ever doing this type of kid and always gave 938 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 28: me the time of day, always was generous with his time. 939 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, he was great. He was great. 940 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 4: Funny guy too, he really is. 941 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, just a good personality, a smart guy. 942 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, not surprised at all the type of 943 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 6: career he's had, No. 944 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 9: And honestly it kind of didn't start. 945 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 5: You know. 946 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 9: He was a backup to start, and then he was 947 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 9: kind of like. 948 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 28: Swiss army knife top backup on the interior, backing up 949 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 28: all three spots and to see him blossom into like 950 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 28: a really good starting center for a long time is 951 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 28: pretty cool. 952 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 7: All right, So tell us about Access. 953 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 4: What have you learned? 954 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,919 Speaker 9: Yeah, we heard from Mike Rabel. I heard from Drake May. 955 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 28: Obviously we heard from everybody, but those two spoke at 956 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 28: the podium this morning, and you know, Drake May really 957 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 28: doesn't seem like he's even thinking about the shoulder anymore. 958 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 9: At this point, so that that was good news. 959 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 4: You know. 960 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,720 Speaker 28: Mike Rabel talked a little bit about football, but mostly 961 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 28: about nonsense and you know, asking questions about you know, 962 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 28: all sorts of different stuff. 963 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 9: But uh, you know, not yeah, not so much fun. 964 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 9: You weren't having it. 965 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 4: I mean, like you know, and discuss I. 966 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 28: Just I gotta I'm going to San Francisco, not to 967 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 28: like be on my soapbucks about it, but you know, 968 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 28: like we got to do a better job of who 969 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 28: we let into these press conferences. Like these people and 970 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 28: I'm not asking them to ask like hard hitting football 971 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 28: questions necessarily, but be professional with the questions that you're asking. 972 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 28: You know, like if somebody wants to ask something for 973 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 28: a human interest story, then like go for it. It's 974 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 28: not part of the gig. But sometimes I just feel like, 975 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 28: who let this person in here? Like you know, it's 976 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 28: it's it's kind of crazy. 977 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 7: But what else? 978 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 4: What else have you uh working on? 979 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 28: You know a couple of different things you know, Josh 980 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 28: McDaniels to talk to him a little bit. I think 981 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 28: one of the cool things about what's going on with 982 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 28: you know, the offense is that it's a lot of 983 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 28: the Brady offense, but then you just have this whole 984 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 28: nother dimension of Drake's mobility that just didn't exist before 985 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 28: with Brady. 986 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 9: So yeah, it was it was it was cool to uh. 987 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 28: To get McDaniels' perspective on you know, how they've added 988 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 28: that in and he actually prompted brought up the Cam 989 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 28: season and said that that was like his biggest exposure 990 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 28: to having a mobile quarterback. And obviously we talked about 991 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 28: the differences between Cam and and Drake May in terms 992 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 28: of their running style, but uh he uh, he was 993 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 28: pretty uh open about the fact that, you know, he 994 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 28: didn't really have a ton of experience with a dread 995 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 28: May style quarterback before and how that's kind of opened 996 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 28: up some avenues for them this year. 997 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 6: Yep, all right, anything else you know that you want 998 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 6: to talk about before we get into more calls and email. 999 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 28: I would say the only other thing, uh, obviously, you 1000 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 28: know a couple of questions about Robert Splaine and his 1001 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 28: availability and Rabel basically made it sound like that's gonna 1002 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 28: be kind of a Saturday night, Sunday morning type of 1003 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 28: decision of the roster spot. And you know, is he 1004 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 28: going to be able to give it a go? And 1005 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 28: if he can, you know, how what percentage? 1006 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 4: You know? 1007 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,919 Speaker 7: So, why do you think is so certain? Well, he said, 1008 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 7: I I wonder. 1009 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 4: If he's trying to bargain his way in. 1010 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 28: Yeah, I wonder if that's just the player in him. 1011 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 28: You know, he's a competitor and he wants it's a 1012 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 28: super Bowl. He wants to be out there. I'm sure, 1013 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 28: But you know, I think Rabel's answer was maybe a 1014 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 28: little bit more, not saying that he is ruling him 1015 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 28: out or anything, but just a little bit more. Let's 1016 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 28: see what happened over the next couple of days. Blaine 1017 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 28: did say he's going to try to practice today and 1018 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 28: and sort of test it out and see how it goes. 1019 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 4: Okay, what time is practice? I'd go around two o'clock. 1020 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 4: Two o'clock? 1021 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 28: Yeah, yeah, so I have an injury report around like 1022 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 28: four thirty five o'clock. 1023 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 6: Okay, yep, sounds good. All right, It's eight five to 1024 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 6: five pats five hundred for the hotline. Podcast at Patriots 1025 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,720 Speaker 6: dot com for the email address. Let's hit the phones 1026 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 6: and see what people have to say. Uh, Joe and 1027 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 6: Chicago's been holding on for a while. What's up, Joe? Hey? 1028 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 29: Good, Hey, I just had a little quick question about 1029 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 29: the ceremony tonight. 1030 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 7: The honors NFL honors you're talking about. 1031 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 29: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yes, I'm just wondering if you guys 1032 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 29: had a perspective on if that really weighs on the 1033 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 29: players indoor coach, like in the. 1034 00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 30: Upcoming people, like if they win or not on like 1035 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 30: their mindset, you know, if they win the award, if 1036 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,479 Speaker 30: they're going in alto year, if they lose the award, 1037 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 30: they got a chip on their shoulders anything else. 1038 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know how much weight the 1039 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 6: players now put on these these awards. 1040 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,399 Speaker 4: You know, did the Pictris even go to this award 1041 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 4: ceremony or they. 1042 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 7: Have No, I don't even think they'll be there. 1043 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,760 Speaker 4: I don't know. So I didn't Gilmour win Defensive Player 1044 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 4: of the Year. I think he did. Yeah, the year 1045 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 4: that we beat the Rams in the Super Bowl. 1046 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 9: No, that was twenty nineteen, different year. Yeah, he wanted it. 1047 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 28: In nineteen with the Boogeyman defense and the year after that. 1048 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 28: But my I don't think. 1049 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 9: That the players or the coaches will be there. 1050 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,240 Speaker 28: I think if they win, they submit like a video message, 1051 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 28: you know, right, thanking everybody and whatnot. 1052 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,280 Speaker 9: But yeah, and I kind of agree with Fred. 1053 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 10: I mean, I think the motivation at the Super Bowl 1054 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 10: is to win and win a championship. 1055 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 4: You know. 1056 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 10: And you know, I'm sure that they have a chip 1057 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 10: on their shoulder from what they've used, you know often 1058 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 10: in the last few. 1059 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 4: Weeks about the perceived black of respect. 1060 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 10: You know, there's more people on Seattle in this game, right, 1061 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 10: there's more people on Seattle than that. That's their motivation. Like, 1062 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 10: it's not, well, I didn't win the MVP. I'm going 1063 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,359 Speaker 10: to show you know. I just don't see how that's 1064 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 10: a big part of the motivation. 1065 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 28: Yeah, maybe there would be, like a little bit if 1066 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 28: they were playing the Rams and Stafford won the MVP 1067 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 28: over May and. 1068 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 4: And the defense really wants to show out. 1069 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 9: And Drake manca show you play better than Stafford, or if. 1070 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 8: Drake loses it and his offensive line says, you know, 1071 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 8: they have some motivation. 1072 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 6: I don't know. 1073 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 4: I mean, these things, they're all I just think the 1074 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 4: motivation is to win a title. That yeah, I agree, 1075 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 4: that's great. I agree. 1076 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. Let's go to Peter in Tampa. What's up, Peter. 1077 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 6: Where's it going, Peter? 1078 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 31: Yes, sir, how you doing? 1079 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 4: Time to talk on all right? 1080 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 31: I want first I want to say thank you for 1081 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 31: your show. I watched you often. You guys are great 1082 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 31: and happy Super Bowl. I just wanted to make a 1083 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 31: point about our k K. When the Patriots were back 1084 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 31: at the Old Stadium and they were being blacked out, 1085 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 31: I didn't want to not get to see my Patriots place, 1086 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,800 Speaker 31: so I went and bought tickets. In nineteen eighty seven, 1087 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 31: then mister Kraft came along and stopped the Patriots from 1088 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 31: moving to Saint Louis. He turned them into one of 1089 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 31: the juggernauts of the NFL and the most vilified franchise 1090 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 31: in the NFL. And I want to thank you for that. 1091 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 31: And I think it's a travesty that he is not 1092 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 31: in the Hall of Fame because in twenty eleven, when 1093 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 31: there was a new collective boggaining agreement coming, that man 1094 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 31: sat down with the NFL Players Association and talk to 1095 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 31: those people, got the job done, and his wife was 1096 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 31: sick and dying of cancer in the hospital, be in 1097 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 31: the Hall of Fame. 1098 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 6: I'm not smiling clear now, you're absolutely right, Peter. We're 1099 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 6: all on board with that. Thanks for calling in, and 1100 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 6: Peter should work for us, absolutely, but right now we're joined. 1101 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 23: Uh. 1102 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 6: Greg Rosenthal from the NFL nftwork NFL network. I was 1103 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 6: gonna say, NFL dot com. It's kind I think the 1104 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 6: same thing. 1105 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 32: Whatever, It's all at least for right now altogether. Yeah, 1106 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 32: let's do. 1107 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 4: It's one of our Patriots guys on. 1108 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 33: The former coworker, you know when back when he was 1109 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,280 Speaker 33: great research. 1110 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 4: Right, did a stint over there. 1111 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 28: Yeah, no, I worked well, not really with Greg directly, 1112 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 28: but I knew he was a Patriots fan, so I 1113 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 28: I might have, you know, hovered around his desk. 1114 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 4: So what are your New England roots. 1115 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 32: I grew up in Western mass Wilbraham, you know, through 1116 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 32: through high school and everything. 1117 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 33: First Patriots game was the Doug Flutey. 1118 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 32: End around against the Colts my dad, so I was like, 1119 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 32: it's one of the only games they won that year. 1120 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 32: But it was like that that was an early sign 1121 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 32: my my Patriots fandom was gonna be very lucky. 1122 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,879 Speaker 7: And was that the break break his legs game. 1123 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 4: No, no, this was his first go round this Patriots around. 1124 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 32: He is either his first or second win, but it 1125 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 32: was it was an end around where he gets a 1126 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 32: touchdown to beat the Colts with like an under two 1127 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 32: minutes to go. 1128 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 33: Is it was a rare bright spot in a rough. 1129 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 9: Sea I remember. 1130 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,879 Speaker 6: All right, So, Greg, what's your thoughts on this game? 1131 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 6: I know the Patriots are slight underdogs, but they are underdogs. 1132 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 32: Yeah, And I'm glad you said slight because that's where 1133 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 32: I am. And the feeling you get nationally and I 1134 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 32: think among fans is that it's some crazy mismatch. 1135 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 4: And why do you think that is? 1136 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 32: Well, look, I'm I guess I'm part of the reason 1137 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,879 Speaker 32: why that is because I've said all year I thought 1138 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 32: the Rams and. 1139 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 34: Seahawks are the best two teams in the league that 1140 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,800 Speaker 34: special teams offense, defense. 1141 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 32: Coaching thought they were about a tier above. But the 1142 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 32: Patriots are right there in that next tier. And there's 1143 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 32: a reason why they're playing their best defensive ball right now. 1144 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 32: They're the reason why they're in this game, and it's 1145 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 32: in its football and Seattle obviously has weaknesses you can 1146 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 32: take advantage of I don't think they're like one of 1147 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 32: the all time great teams, So I think they're a 1148 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 32: slight favorite. But we've seen in these Super Bowls more 1149 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 32: than a few times that like that doesn't really mean 1150 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 32: anything to me. I think it's just a one game 1151 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,359 Speaker 32: who can figure out the right game plan, who comes 1152 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 32: out fast, and I can easily see that being the Patriots. 1153 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 10: So what specifically about Seattle would worry you most from 1154 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 10: the Patriots' perspective. 1155 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 32: Oh, the physicality and the secondary and the ability to 1156 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 32: get pressure with four. They just all year really other 1157 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:39,240 Speaker 32: than the NFC Championship game, Like they mix their coverages 1158 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 32: in such a crazy and inventive way on long yarded 1159 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 32: situations in the back end, and they got six defensive 1160 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,319 Speaker 32: backs on the field. But they're so physical and they 1161 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 32: match up so well, and then meanwhile you're having to 1162 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 32: deal with Murphy and Leonard Williams in the middle. They're 1163 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,399 Speaker 32: kind of I think where it all comes from, those 1164 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 32: two guys and just good players everywhere that you don't 1165 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 32: know how to play to play basis who's gonna beat you? 1166 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 32: And so they're fast, They've been really able to get 1167 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 32: pressure with four with good scheme in the back end defensively, 1168 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 32: Like that's a great formula that the Rams kind of 1169 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 32: figured out in a way that almost no other teams did, 1170 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 32: but that that was pretty rare and they got to 1171 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 32: play him three times. 1172 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 6: So I know the Patriots offense hasn't fared that well 1173 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 6: during the playoffs for various reasons. But if you take 1174 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 6: what they did during the season at their best, do 1175 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 6: you think they have an answer to that? 1176 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 7: You know, and let's include Drake May's. 1177 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 32: Legs, Yes, because I think Seattle this year they have 1178 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 32: given up some runs to just scrambling quarterbacks. Certainly, I 1179 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 32: think if you're gonna beat them, you're gonna beat them 1180 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 32: with big plays, like like the Rams did there. There's 1181 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 32: been a couple of games this year like Drake May 1182 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 32: is gonna throw it, like if they go down, he's 1183 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 32: gonna go down swinging. So I think they've been an 1184 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 32: explosive They're going for home runs all season, right, and 1185 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 32: I think that's the way you kind of need to 1186 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 32: beat Seattle. You'll probably have some short drives, but I 1187 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 32: also think you could have some explosive plays where you 1188 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 32: catch Witherspoon or Woolen one on one on the outside 1189 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 32: and you see some big plays. 1190 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 28: Okay, Craig, is there any player in this game that's 1191 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 28: not Drake may or JSN or something that is kind 1192 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 28: of like under the radar that you could see having 1193 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 28: a big game in this one? 1194 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 32: Okay, Well, I'm gonna go more on the negative side 1195 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 32: for the Seahawks. Yeah, and that's Jake Sundell and Anthony 1196 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,800 Speaker 32: Bradford specifically, Like Bradford had one of the worst like 1197 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 32: tapes you've ever seen in the NFC Championship game. 1198 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,720 Speaker 4: I mean it was it was crazy. 1199 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 32: He He'll look like one of the best offensive linemen 1200 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 32: you ever seen for about four plays a game, and 1201 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 32: then the rest of it it's trouble. So Sundell is 1202 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,439 Speaker 32: also a guy who like a late round pick who's 1203 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 32: playing well for them, won a camp battle, but since 1204 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 32: he's come back from injury, hasn't looked great. So those 1205 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 32: two guys, to me, are like the weakness of their 1206 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 32: whole team and who they're going up against the strength 1207 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:55,280 Speaker 32: of the coatriots. 1208 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 4: Seen it. 1209 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 32: So I've really kind of been zero it in on 1210 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 32: those two guys because I think they they could get 1211 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 32: taken to the woodshed and it could mess up the 1212 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 32: whole formula for. 1213 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 6: My prediction is if the Patriots win, put your money 1214 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,240 Speaker 6: on Milton Williams's MVP. 1215 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 9: He's got a real outside the box MVP. 1216 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 4: Milton. For five bucks, you can win over a thousand dollars. 1217 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 33: I don't think that's that crazy, I told him, And 1218 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 33: I love to. 1219 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 10: Make fun of Fred, That's kind of what I do 1220 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 10: as a cottage industry. But as soon as you said that, 1221 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 10: I've got that's a good bed, I mean smith. 1222 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 32: One at the one time the Seahawks want and say 1223 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 32: you never know that that that does not seem crazy 1224 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 32: to me at all. I would love I was talking 1225 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 32: last night with a couple of guys like we want 1226 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 32: to see like a Jack west Over touch or a Tonga. 1227 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 34: Touchdown to go you know, McDaniels and have something funky 1228 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 34: and well, you know, you get Rabel who has caught 1229 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 34: touchdown right in Super Bowls, you know, and I think 1230 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 34: you know you talk about what edges, little edges does 1231 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 34: each team have. 1232 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 6: I think Rabel is an edge in that he's been 1233 00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 6: in big games as a player, had success, and hopefully 1234 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 6: he can transfer that knowledge, you know, to the team. 1235 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 32: I think that's absolutely right, especially when you're comparing the 1236 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 32: offensive coordinators Clint Kobiak and McDaniels, Like, I just have 1237 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 32: a much more of a confidence that mcdane is going 1238 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 32: to just during the game. And I don't even think 1239 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 32: it's a question how many trick plays that they have, 1240 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 32: like they're coming into the game with some. 1241 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 33: It's just how many they're actually going to use, how 1242 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 33: many actually work. 1243 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 28: We've been waiting for them to throw a past to 1244 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 28: Tonga all year, you know, every time, I'm like, you're 1245 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 28: going to catch one of these days. You know, you know, 1246 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 28: Rabel is dying to throw a touchdown pass to defensive player. 1247 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 33: You guys would know better than me. 1248 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 32: I'm hoping it's Kyle Williams as the surprise guy, because, yeah, 1249 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,959 Speaker 32: I really think he's going to have a good career. 1250 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 32: I really believe in his college state and and some 1251 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 32: of the things he's shown, and so it would be 1252 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 32: great for him to have that game. 1253 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 4: I remember. 1254 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 32: I'm sure you guys do too. Chris Wallace, who didn't 1255 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 32: have a single Yeah, I don't think he caught a 1256 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 32: regular season passing. His NFL three went over one hundred 1257 00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 32: in the Super Bowl wins to the Patriots. Matthews, Chris 1258 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 32: Wallace ball. 1259 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1260 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 6: Well, so they've used the flea flicker, they used the 1261 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 6: direct snap, what they've used the uh fully special pass 1262 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 6: to uh to May that didn't work. Well, what's left? 1263 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 6: What do you think? 1264 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 7: What do you think he's still doing? 1265 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 10: I think it's exactly what Greg said, you know, like 1266 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 10: a past to Tonga, a past to Montford, some kind 1267 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 10: of tackle eligible. 1268 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 9: We haven't really seen that. 1269 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, they have. 1270 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 10: They've done a lot of trick plays and I agree 1271 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 10: with you guys, they're gonna do another one in the 1272 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 10: Super Bowl. 1273 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 4: Maybe over simplifying it. 1274 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 8: But this is what we've heard all week is how 1275 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 8: do the Patriots make Sam Donald's he ghosts? I know 1276 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 8: it's probably connected to what you said about the offensive line, 1277 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 8: but is that the key getting him to hold the 1278 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 8: ball and not get in that rhythm that he's capable of. 1279 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 32: Yeah, I think it's mixing up the coverages like after 1280 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 32: the snap and if you want it to be a 1281 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 32: Patriots homer, which you guys like are paid and I 1282 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 32: am not paid, exactly, I think the case you could 1283 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 32: make is like Donald had seen that Rams defense three times, 1284 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 32: he had seen that four nine Ers defense three times, 1285 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 32: and he was very comfortable in what he was seeing 1286 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 32: and he is a guy. I think we'll know in 1287 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 32: the first quarter where like he was awesome in the 1288 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 32: NFC Champion when I rewatched that game on on film 1289 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 32: and everything, like, they actually got a lot of pressure 1290 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 32: on him and he was great. He was playing confidently, 1291 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 32: going through his reads fast. He can get gummed up 1292 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 32: where he gets stuck on one or two and then 1293 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 32: he just holding it. He has a bad player too early. 1294 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 32: To me, the first two drives for the Patriots defense 1295 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 32: are gonna be so telling because I think if he 1296 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,919 Speaker 32: starts off bad, he's not a guy that like gets 1297 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 32: himself out. 1298 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 4: Of it sometimes. 1299 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, good point. 1300 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 4: Absolutely. How's the new office in Inglewood? 1301 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 33: Treat and it's nice. 1302 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 7: It's nice. 1303 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 33: You were there in Culver City. 1304 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 32: Yeah it was a little Yeah, that was a little different, 1305 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 32: but we were all in the same newsroom together. 1306 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 33: Yeah, that was fun Inglewood. You know, it's it's weird. 1307 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 32: Right next to a Rams game and a Chargers game 1308 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 32: is basically you're you're right there at the stadium. 1309 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 9: I miss around the NFL. I'm not gonna lie to you. 1310 01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 4: I miss it. 1311 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 28: It was is like when we go on road trips 1312 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 28: and stuff like we don't get to really cover the 1313 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 28: entire league very well. You guys just did such a 1314 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 28: great job of every single game, you know, all sixteen 1315 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 28: when there's no buys and things like that. Helpful for 1316 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 28: people like us that are only focused really on one team. 1317 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 28: But you can do a great job with your new 1318 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 28: podcast too. 1319 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 32: But yeah, NFL Daily, I mean I around the NFL 1320 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 32: was great, you know, a great run. We're still we're 1321 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 32: still recapping all the games here. We'll be on the 1322 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 32: field after the game, so we only we talked to 1323 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 32: the winning team. So hopefully yea, yeah, hope, hopefully I can. 1324 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 32: It's not going to be grabbing like the top top players. 1325 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 4: Hope. 1326 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 32: Hopefully we can have a nice interview with Matt Collins 1327 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 32: or something after the interview would be. 1328 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 8: All right, Greg, appreciate. 1329 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 7: Talking with you. 1330 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 6: All right, Greg Rosenthal from NFL Network, it's been does 1331 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,439 Speaker 6: great work cover in the league. 1332 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 7: Oh look at this another familiar face. 1333 01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 4: What's up? 1334 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 7: Brian Brian Hoyer joins Patriots unfiltered. 1335 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 4: Right, what's up, guys, you tell me what's up? 1336 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm great? This is incredible. 1337 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 4: Huh yeah, oh yeah, given n. 1338 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's my legal name. 1339 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,479 Speaker 4: Have you been to radio role before. 1340 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,880 Speaker 5: The only time I ever did it is in twenty 1341 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 5: It would have been the twenty thirteen season. I was 1342 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 5: playing for Cleveland and they took me to do a 1343 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 5: few things and basically walk around and and just hit 1344 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 5: a bunch of different stuff. So, you know, the other 1345 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 5: times I've been in the Super Bowl, it's been on 1346 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 5: the team, so never really get to experience it. 1347 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 4: So it's pretty cool, No, it's it's pretty wild. 1348 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 9: Nice humble brack there. 1349 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Fred and I usually do that, but this is 1350 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,080 Speaker 4: more impressive. Yeah. 1351 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 6: So I know you've been, you know, doing stuff with 1352 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 6: the team h for a couple of years now. But 1353 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 6: for those people who don't watch TV anymore, uh, you know, 1354 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 6: tell us what you think about this twenty twenty five Patriots. 1355 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 6: I mean, just an amazing turnaround from four wins. 1356 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been truly incredible. 1357 01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 5: Look, I was one, you know, I do a lot 1358 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 5: of differ media things, and I kind of said I 1359 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 5: think they could win eight to twelve games that's where 1360 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 5: and people thought I was crazy. But I looked at 1361 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 5: Mike Rabil, I looked at Josh McDaniels. I thought they 1362 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 5: very selectively brought in really good pieces and free agency, 1363 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 5: especially on the defense side of the ball. Morgan Moses 1364 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 5: on the offense side of the ball. I thought they 1365 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 5: drafted really well, so I had a little bit more 1366 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 5: of a better outlook. And I think what happened was, 1367 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,400 Speaker 5: and Brave said this last week, like we kind of 1368 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 5: established a culture and a vision and they believed it 1369 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 5: before they could see the results, and then all of 1370 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 5: a sudden you start seeing the results and it just 1371 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 5: catches wildfire. And I mean, how many games in the 1372 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 5: row did they win? Nine on the road, And they've 1373 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 5: just been resilient. And the one thing I would say, 1374 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 5: and sometimes I gotta have to question myself, like is 1375 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 5: this bias because obviously still associated with the organization, just 1376 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 5: not that far removed, But I would say they've been 1377 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 5: the most consistent team out of any NFL team this season. 1378 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 5: They've just consistently gotten better. They've never lost a game 1379 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 5: where they just didn't look in complete disarray. There was 1380 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 5: a point against Vegas in Week one where you were like, 1381 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 5: all right, I don't know, but there was some really 1382 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 5: good football that week too. So they've been consistent, they've 1383 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 5: gotten better, and they've been, to me, a complete team 1384 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 5: and That's why I think the Super Bowl is so 1385 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,880 Speaker 5: interesting because I would say Seattle is the same way. 1386 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 5: These are two of the best teams, not just units. 1387 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 5: Like you could say the Rams were the best offense, 1388 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 5: but their defense was just so so. But the Patriots 1389 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 5: and the Seahawks, when you look at especially I'm not 1390 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 5: a big stats and rankings guy, both sides of the ball, 1391 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 5: they're at the they're in the top. 1392 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 4: And and and everything. 1393 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 6: And the other thing that I think they did well is, 1394 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 6: you know, you've been around the league enough. When a 1395 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 6: team brings in as many free agents as the Patriots did, 1396 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 6: it's rare that they all kind of pan out. It 1397 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 6: maybe half if you're lucky, pan out. But they everything 1398 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 6: they've done this offseason seemed to hit, including the draft picks, 1399 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,439 Speaker 6: you know, for the most part. And that's rare, I think. 1400 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 6: And part of it, I think is coaching. They got 1401 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 6: these players in the right positions to succeed, but personnel evaluation, 1402 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 6: it all goes into it. I think that's contributed so 1403 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 6: much to their success as well. 1404 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 1: I would agree. 1405 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's you have to give a 1406 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 5: credit to obviously Elliott wolf Rabel, those guys who are 1407 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 5: making those decisions, and sometimes it's not always. 1408 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 1: About the biggest name. It's the best fit, right. 1409 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 5: So like when they sign Splaine, I played with with 1410 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 5: with ull spill out in Vegas. I was like, this 1411 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 5: guy is a beast, Like the fans are gonna love him. 1412 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 5: He's a perfect fit for what they do. You go 1413 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 5: and get Harold Landry, who I've always had a ton 1414 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,320 Speaker 5: of respect for. Like, you go into a game plan 1415 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 5: and Tennessee's got Landry, Like I got to know about 1416 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 5: this guy. 1417 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 1: He knows Rabel, he knows the system. 1418 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 5: You get Morgan Moses, who you know was in New 1419 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 5: York with Todd Downing, so there's some familiarity there. Uh, 1420 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 5: you draft obviously Will Campbell, Jerry Wilson. Uh, you get 1421 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 5: Trayvon get him going. It took a while, but he 1422 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 5: and and I know it's kind of hasn't been as 1423 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 5: good in the past few weeks, but there's been signs there. 1424 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 5: Kyle Williams, he hasn't he hasn't played a lot, but 1425 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 5: when he's he's made an impact. 1426 01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,479 Speaker 4: It's been here even guy down the Woodson, Yeah, oh. 1427 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 1: What has been phenomenal? 1428 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 5: Like when when Devin mccordy is is tweeting about him 1429 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 5: and saying he's a he's a legit player, like this 1430 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 5: is the greatest safety in Patriot's history, Like he respects 1431 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,320 Speaker 5: and knows what this guy's doing. So you're right, Like 1432 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 5: I can't remember in recent years of a team just 1433 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 5: kind of and they're not all superstars, but they're role players. 1434 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 4: Who play their role really well. 1435 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,920 Speaker 6: And it contributes to what you said consistency. Yeah, yeah, 1436 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:24,920 Speaker 6: weekend and week. 1437 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 4: Out, Brian. 1438 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 28: I know you watched Drake, you know, kind of grow 1439 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 28: here aslong with all of us. What have you seen 1440 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 28: his biggest area of improvement from yere one tier or 1441 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 28: two has just been a meteoric improvement. 1442 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 5: It feels like, well, first and foremost, I was impressed 1443 01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:42,040 Speaker 5: with Drake last year, being in a not so great situation, 1444 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 5: how he handled himself and I think that earned a 1445 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 5: lot of respect from the guys in the locker room. 1446 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,320 Speaker 5: When you hear like Hunter Henry and he the way 1447 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,960 Speaker 5: he talks about him, And there's not many guys that 1448 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 5: I respect more than Hunter. Haven't played with him and 1449 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 5: his understanding of offensive football the game, and you would 1450 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,040 Speaker 5: see how he would talk about him and how Drake 1451 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 5: carried himself and look biased or not when they sign. 1452 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 5: When Josh McDaniels came back, I was like, this kid 1453 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,960 Speaker 5: is gonna have a tremendous year now MVP level. I 1454 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 5: don't think anyone could have really foresaw that. But he 1455 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 5: is so mature beyond his years, and the way he 1456 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 5: handles the pressure of it all. Has this been truly incredible. 1457 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 5: Sometimes I have to like pinch myself and be like, 1458 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 5: Drake's closer in age to my thirteen year old son 1459 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 5: than he is to me. 1460 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he just doesn't carry himself that way. 1461 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 5: And you know, even when things get rough, he just 1462 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 5: kind of hangs on and it doesn't affect him and 1463 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 5: he just keeps battling through it. And so that I 1464 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 5: think you've got to give credit to like Ashton Grant, 1465 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 5: Riley Lark and the guys who have worked with him 1466 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 5: on his fundamentals. 1467 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 1: You know, I think he's so much better in the pocket. 1468 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 1: His feet aren't all over the place. 1469 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 5: And the thing that has really amazed me is the 1470 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 5: understanding of not trying to force to run the ball, 1471 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:50,080 Speaker 5: let it come naturally. 1472 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 1: Step up in the pocket when I see a lane 1473 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 1: take it. 1474 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 5: We all saw Rabel micd Up saying, hey, you might 1475 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 5: have to make a few plays with your feet here, 1476 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,840 Speaker 5: like he understands how to play the game the right way, 1477 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,600 Speaker 5: and you pair Jo and that system with his skill set, 1478 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 5: it's been incredible. 1479 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 8: You mentioned Josh's system, Brian, I've been sitting on this 1480 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 8: question for a while and I'm sorry to take it back, 1481 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 8: but you said something on TV that really picked my 1482 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 8: interest in. Evan and I have talked a lot about 1483 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,240 Speaker 8: the Josh's offense, and you said I've seen what Josh's 1484 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 8: offense looks like with DeVante Adams with a true number one, 1485 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:17,760 Speaker 8: And I really I was WSA like could jump through 1486 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 8: the TV because I wanted to ask you, like, what 1487 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 8: does that kind of player do to Josh's offense? 1488 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 5: It's just to me, when you have a guy with 1489 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 5: that skill set, it's he and and DeVante's unique because 1490 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 5: he's not just an X, He's not just a zee. 1491 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,240 Speaker 4: We had plays where he's in the slot like that. 1492 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 5: To a defense is scary because where's he gonna be 1493 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,559 Speaker 5: first and foremost if we want to try to take 1494 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:38,000 Speaker 5: them away? 1495 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,240 Speaker 1: Are we doubling him? Are we trying to cloud him? 1496 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 13: Now? 1497 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:41,640 Speaker 5: All of a sudden, he's on the other side of 1498 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 5: the field, you know, similar going back to what Moss 1499 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,600 Speaker 5: did in that first year with Josh, I think no 1500 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 5: one had ever seen that before. Like Randy had always 1501 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,800 Speaker 5: been an outside player. Now he's in the slot, he's 1502 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,600 Speaker 5: running up on the safety and has a two way go. 1503 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 5: So having a guy like that, it really what it 1504 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 5: does is it makes everybody else's job a little bit easier. 1505 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,680 Speaker 5: Right if the atten drawn to someone like that, you 1506 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 5: get a few easier completions to some other guys, and ultimately, 1507 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,519 Speaker 5: when the look is there to throw it to him, 1508 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 5: you just let it rip and throw it to him. 1509 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 5: So it was interesting. Obviously it didn't work out. It 1510 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 5: was it for a short time. But man, when I 1511 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,519 Speaker 5: was in those practices with Davante, I was like, this 1512 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 5: is incredible. 1513 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 4: I know, we went to joint practices, but on the sidelines, 1514 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh my god. Even mac hollins impressed me. 1515 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that year I was still on the Patriots 1516 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 5: when we went out for that joint practice and I 1517 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,519 Speaker 5: remember watching like, aren't like, do we realize that's Davante? 1518 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,800 Speaker 5: Are we going to try to cover this guy with 1519 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 5: more than one guy? And they couldn't and we knew 1520 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 5: you knew where the ball was going. 1521 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 4: Poor Jalen Mills, he was a couple. J Mills get so. 1522 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 10: When you when you look at this game and you 1523 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 10: look at Seattle offensively, do you see the kind of impact. 1524 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,880 Speaker 10: I know they're different players, but with JSN, is he 1525 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 10: opening things up like that? 1526 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 13: Yeah? 1527 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 1: Jasn, I think he's so unique. 1528 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,120 Speaker 5: And I don't know if you guys watched the game 1529 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,519 Speaker 5: the broadcast, but Tom really broke it down really well. 1530 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:53,880 Speaker 4: Brady. 1531 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 1: This guy his his shoulder level, his plane never moves. 1532 01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 5: And so when you're a dB and the guy's running 1533 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 5: all over the place and he can break left, right, 1534 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,759 Speaker 5: go vertical, stop and nothing. 1535 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,720 Speaker 1: Ever changes, it's so hard for dbs to guard him. 1536 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 5: Now, I will say, you know a lot of his 1537 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 5: production comes off of play action pass and so what 1538 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 5: does that mean? That means the offense is over committing 1539 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,800 Speaker 5: to the run, which we all know it's a West 1540 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,640 Speaker 5: Coast system. Klink Kubiak has done a phenomenal job. The 1541 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,760 Speaker 5: Patriots key this week has to be how do we 1542 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 5: prevent them from just running the ball where we have 1543 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 5: to over commit? And I did find it pretty interesting. 1544 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker's actually better against stacked boxes than he is 1545 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,600 Speaker 5: against light boxes. So I think if you're the Patriots, 1546 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,560 Speaker 5: that kind of can work to your advantage. If you 1547 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 5: can hold a shell defend him with a light box 1548 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,840 Speaker 5: where he's actually been less productive. Maybe that gives you 1549 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 5: a little bit extra coverage. You roll the coverage a 1550 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,160 Speaker 5: cover two to JSN or now all of a sudden 1551 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 5: you go to man. Is it like the old school 1552 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 5: Patriots that I was on, where maybe you take Davis 1553 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,640 Speaker 5: and you put him on JSN and Man and you 1554 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,760 Speaker 5: lean a safety that way and then now all of 1555 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,680 Speaker 5: a sudden, Gonzalez is covering Cooper Cup like where do 1556 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 5: you throw the football? So it's going to I'm intrigued 1557 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 5: to see how they're going to defend the Seattle Offen. 1558 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,559 Speaker 6: Why do you think Walker's uh better? Not as good 1559 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,040 Speaker 6: against lighter boxes. 1560 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,439 Speaker 5: But he's not as big of a runner, right like 1561 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,600 Speaker 5: they had sharbon Ay and Sharbona was there. It was 1562 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 5: their heavy back and and Kenneth who is more of 1563 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 5: like a slash and cut runner. I think sometimes you 1564 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,960 Speaker 5: get those you get those light boxes, all of a sudden, 1565 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 5: you feel like you can go a certain way, and 1566 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,720 Speaker 5: all of a sudden there's a corner there to you know, 1567 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 5: when you have to run into a stacked box, if 1568 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 5: you can take care of the safety, you've actually now 1569 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 5: taken a guy out of the middle of the field, 1570 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:32,360 Speaker 5: and that's. 1571 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:33,759 Speaker 1: Where he gets those explosive runs. 1572 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 1573 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 5: I think that's that's the thing is when you're when 1574 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,639 Speaker 5: you bring a safety down in the box, it actually 1575 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,040 Speaker 5: makes it easier for the receiver to go dig them 1576 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 5: out and block them. Now you're kind of leaving him 1577 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:44,439 Speaker 5: one on one with the corner. 1578 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 8: Okay, the other side of the ball. What do you 1579 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 8: see from Seattle's defense? How are they going to challenge Drake? 1580 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 8: What do they got to do to beat me? 1581 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 1: They're phenomenal. 1582 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 5: I think it's it's it's every level of defense you got, obviously, 1583 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,800 Speaker 5: Leonard Williams Murphy like, those guys are generating a rush 1584 01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 5: and they're not having to blitz a lot. 1585 01:11:58,960 --> 01:11:59,080 Speaker 13: Right. 1586 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,880 Speaker 4: So now the kind of goes back to Legion of Boom. 1587 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 6: Right. 1588 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:03,960 Speaker 5: You go back to that game with the Super Bowl 1589 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,280 Speaker 5: and Brady and I've heard the stories. I wasn't there 1590 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,519 Speaker 5: for it, like Tom was, like on my back foot, 1591 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,960 Speaker 5: I'm looking to one and two and the ball's coming out, 1592 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,360 Speaker 5: like I know what covers they're running, I know the 1593 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:14,960 Speaker 5: rush is gonna get here. I have to be on 1594 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 5: time and I so I have to imagine that. For 1595 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 5: the past two weeks, Josh has been sitting there with 1596 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,479 Speaker 5: a clicker in his hand with Drake and saying, Drake, 1597 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,240 Speaker 5: when I call these quick dropback passes one two three, 1598 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 5: one two or run or throw it away? Like we 1599 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,040 Speaker 5: can't take the sacks like he's taken and I get it. 1600 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,280 Speaker 5: It's been a gauntlet of defenses and it's not gonna 1601 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,679 Speaker 5: be any easier on Sunday, So it will be interesting. 1602 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 1: Obviously, we've all. 1603 01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,800 Speaker 5: Seen this news about m and Worry, like what is 1604 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,160 Speaker 5: he kind of makes that whole thing go because he's 1605 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,120 Speaker 5: this hybrid player, right, they don't want to play bas defense, 1606 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:46,640 Speaker 5: So what are they gonna do. 1607 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,559 Speaker 4: When the Patriots put Hamilton? 1608 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 5: Right, when the Patriots put jumbo personnel or thirteen personnel 1609 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:54,600 Speaker 5: and now m and Worry. 1610 01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 1: Who knows what his status is? Like do you have 1611 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,160 Speaker 1: to play base defense? 1612 01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,160 Speaker 5: Because that, to me, Josh has to be thinking of 1613 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,040 Speaker 5: how many different ways can I get them to play 1614 01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 5: base defense? They don't want to do it. What personnel grouping. 1615 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 5: Can I unlock to get them in that where maybe 1616 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 5: they're not as comfortable? 1617 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,640 Speaker 28: Yeah, they we were talking about that yesterday because they 1618 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,679 Speaker 28: don't blink like you put six offensive linemen on the field. 1619 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:15,799 Speaker 9: They're matching it in nickel. 1620 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,640 Speaker 28: But if Amin Warrior doesn't play or is limited or 1621 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 28: anything like that, it completely brings it down. I want 1622 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,720 Speaker 28: to bring you back to JSN for a second, because 1623 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,080 Speaker 28: the one thing I've seen on film with with teams 1624 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 28: that have had success with him is clouding his side 1625 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 28: of the field and pressing him and then putting the 1626 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 28: safety over the top. From a quarterback's perspective, if your 1627 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,640 Speaker 28: number one guy is getting that kind of attention, do 1628 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,479 Speaker 28: you just start someplace else? 1629 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:38,840 Speaker 9: Do you try to feed them the ball? 1630 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,400 Speaker 4: Anyways? What do you do there? 1631 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 5: Well, to me, like you know this and this goes 1632 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,720 Speaker 5: back to the whole progression read versus oone coverage read 1633 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,560 Speaker 5: like all of those things. When when it's when a 1634 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 5: defense is playing zone, you're not really looking for players 1635 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 5: as opposed to where am I going to start with 1636 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,479 Speaker 5: the progression? And so sometimes if if they cloud his side, 1637 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,760 Speaker 5: you know, and if he's on the front side and 1638 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 5: he's running a certain round that's not great against cover too. 1639 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:02,719 Speaker 1: You get off of it very quickly. 1640 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 5: Sometimes he could be the backside of the progression. And 1641 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 5: you know, I think a cloud covers. It's it's kind 1642 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,160 Speaker 5: of limited in what you can try to. You can 1643 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,080 Speaker 5: try to get him inside and run in cuts, and 1644 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 5: now you've got to high low linebackers. How are you 1645 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,960 Speaker 5: affecting him that way? You know, the old cliche is, 1646 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 5: there's our boy, cam ask if I love I love him. 1647 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 5: I'm not sure he's our boy right now. Don't don't 1648 01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,920 Speaker 5: put it past that. It's not for the entertainment. But 1649 01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 5: you can try to high low the corner. But that 1650 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 5: at this level, high lowing really good corners in the 1651 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,639 Speaker 5: NFL becomes tough, and so you can kind of make 1652 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 5: quarterbacks shy away from throwing there unless they have the 1653 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 5: right play call. 1654 01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean, there's certain calls that you want against Cover two. 1655 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 5: So if they if that aligns with the timing of 1656 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:48,680 Speaker 5: the play call and the defense, you may go there. 1657 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 5: If it doesn't, now all of a sudden, you're you're 1658 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,559 Speaker 5: maybe you're going to Cooper Cup or Barner or whatever 1659 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:52,920 Speaker 5: it might be. 1660 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,880 Speaker 28: Yeah, the last question I wanted to ask I remember 1661 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,439 Speaker 28: Super Bowl fifty three, all the guys were giving you 1662 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 28: a lot of credit for running the scout team that 1663 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,040 Speaker 28: week in mimicking the Rams and stuff like that. He 1664 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,720 Speaker 28: just explained like the process of that and how you 1665 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,559 Speaker 28: go about preparing to run a Scott team. 1666 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I loved it for me early on in 1667 01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:10,920 Speaker 1: my career. 1668 01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,320 Speaker 5: Obviously, backing up Tom, I wasn't really going to get 1669 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 5: a chance to play unless something happened to him, and 1670 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,800 Speaker 5: he was like the toughest guy ever, so you know 1671 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,960 Speaker 5: you're never gonna play. So those were your reps and 1672 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,640 Speaker 5: you got to, for me as a young player, experiment 1673 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:22,920 Speaker 5: what you can get away with at the. 1674 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,719 Speaker 4: NFL level against NFL players. 1675 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,240 Speaker 5: Going back to that Super Bowl week, you know, you 1676 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,599 Speaker 5: have a lot of time because your family's not around, 1677 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,800 Speaker 5: you still have to have an off dawn Tuesday, and 1678 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,120 Speaker 5: I remember sitting in my room and just scrolling through 1679 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,759 Speaker 5: the internet and there was an article about the Rams 1680 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 5: kind of did like an inside the training camp thing, 1681 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:41,560 Speaker 5: and I'm like, let me click on this, and I 1682 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 5: watch it and mcveigh's miked up with Goff and he's 1683 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,840 Speaker 5: calling the plays and obviously they cut pieces out, but 1684 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 5: I'm like this is the offense I ran with Kyle. Yeah, 1685 01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,880 Speaker 5: like I know with full confidence when we go out 1686 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 5: there and I can talk to the mccordy's, I can 1687 01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 5: talk to High Tower, I can talk to Chung, I 1688 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 5: can talk to b Flow or Bill or Ernie and say, like, 1689 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 5: you know, if you do this, they don't really have 1690 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,160 Speaker 5: an answer for it. Or if you you know, showed 1691 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,000 Speaker 5: this coverage and all of a sudden late you know, 1692 01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 5: mcveisen in Golf's helmet telling them like, okay, they're in 1693 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,799 Speaker 5: cover four. I think this, and all of a sudden 1694 01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,320 Speaker 5: it switches on the snap. It could really throw them off. 1695 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,840 Speaker 5: And when you're the back quarterback and you don't play 1696 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,840 Speaker 5: in the game, it's great that you're part of a 1697 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,080 Speaker 5: super Bow winning team, but you feel like, man, did 1698 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,679 Speaker 5: I really contribute and so to be able that week, 1699 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 5: and and Devin and Jason you know, did an article 1700 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:25,519 Speaker 5: after that. 1701 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,240 Speaker 1: Really gave gave me credit for it. 1702 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,679 Speaker 5: It actually validated, you know, me being on the team 1703 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 5: and made me feel part of the wins. 1704 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:31,479 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1705 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 28: No, I not to gats you up at all, but 1706 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,880 Speaker 28: I remember being in the locker room after the game 1707 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,800 Speaker 28: and everybody was saying it like Hoyer like helped. 1708 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 4: That's tremendous. 1709 01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 5: Hey, look that was and to me and bring it 1710 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,760 Speaker 5: back to this year's Patriots, it's all about the team. 1711 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,160 Speaker 1: What can you do to help the team win? 1712 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,519 Speaker 5: And I think from from early on you saw that 1713 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 5: these guys are unique in the fact that they care 1714 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:50,759 Speaker 5: for one another. 1715 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 1: They're playing for one another. Rabel has inspired them in 1716 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:53,800 Speaker 1: a way. 1717 01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,160 Speaker 5: He's there greeting them after the game where he can 1718 01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,120 Speaker 5: be hard on them and they understand it's for their 1719 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 5: best interest and they embrace that. 1720 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,280 Speaker 4: And I think it's you can't there's. 1721 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,880 Speaker 5: No statistic for it, there's no measurable for it, but 1722 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,880 Speaker 5: you can see it when they play football. They're playing, 1723 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 5: uh at a different level because. 1724 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:09,679 Speaker 4: Of the culture. 1725 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 10: Thank god it was it was Brian Hoyer was the 1726 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 10: backup and not Scott Zas what happened. 1727 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:18,360 Speaker 9: He wouldn't have been watching. 1728 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, this media stuff, I love it. 1729 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,040 Speaker 5: I mean it becomes so natural because I think when 1730 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,519 Speaker 5: you're a quarterback in the NFL for as long as 1731 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,080 Speaker 5: I was, and as a starter, obviously, you have to 1732 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 5: get up and talk to the media each and every week, 1733 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,560 Speaker 5: not only you know, during the week press conference, but 1734 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,120 Speaker 5: after the game. Win, lose, whatever it might be. And 1735 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,200 Speaker 5: ultimately my goal in this is to be very analytical 1736 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 5: and not be critical. That's that's been my goals as 1737 01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 5: a media analyst is watch the film, try to understand 1738 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,200 Speaker 5: what's happening, and and then try to enlighten people from 1739 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,320 Speaker 5: my perspective. And I think, having played in a lot 1740 01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,920 Speaker 5: of different systems organizations, not everything's the same, you know. 1741 01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,600 Speaker 5: I think the one thing that I always saw was 1742 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,080 Speaker 5: how a play is run in San Francisco and how 1743 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:04,680 Speaker 5: a play is run in New England. It could be 1744 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,720 Speaker 5: the same play on paper, but how it's taught could 1745 01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 5: be two different things. And I think people for me, 1746 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 5: i'd like to, you know, express that and let people know, 1747 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 5: and I like to talk. 1748 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,479 Speaker 7: So now you're you're you're, you're good at it. 1749 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 4: So thank you. 1750 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 9: We've had a lot of fun with you. 1751 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:22,640 Speaker 6: Absolutely, all right, appreciate the time, go past, all right, 1752 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:27,320 Speaker 6: ran everybody, all right, We're gonna take another break when 1753 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 6: we come back. More guests, more fun, more emails, calls 1754 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:37,920 Speaker 6: here on patriots on filtered, Come on switching, Come. 1755 01:18:37,840 --> 01:19:02,320 Speaker 13: On switch switch. 1756 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:09,600 Speaker 14: Let there be ideas too big to stay ideas and 1757 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,160 Speaker 14: the software to make them sore. 1758 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,679 Speaker 15: Let there be anything auto dust. 1759 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:23,720 Speaker 16: The future with AI will twist and turned. Cisco is 1760 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 16: the critical infrastructure for. 1761 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:32,040 Speaker 17: The AI era, clearing your path to wide open possibility. Cisco. 1762 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,080 Speaker 18: Duncan's five dollar meal deal. 1763 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,639 Speaker 11: A yummy wake up wrap, a medium lizcar Hot coffee, 1764 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,759 Speaker 11: and six crispy Golden hash Browns. 1765 01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 18: Duncan's five dollar meal deal a deal for everyone. 1766 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,000 Speaker 19: It ain't my dad's razor duve hey watch, it's from 1767 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 19: you let lapse. This green bar releases trapped hairs from 1768 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 19: my face. 1769 01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,479 Speaker 20: Game change well to flex. 1770 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,640 Speaker 19: This contours to it so the five blades can get 1771 01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,200 Speaker 19: virtually every hair and one stroke for the ultimate lut 1772 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:01,040 Speaker 19: shaving experience. 1773 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 20: The best to make you get just to let laps. 1774 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,680 Speaker 21: We had a crime stopper tip come in. 1775 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 13: We walked into a real one tonight. 1776 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,080 Speaker 27: How much you sit over twenty milt? 1777 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 13: Any ideas we might want this money? It's the cartel, 1778 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:15,040 Speaker 13: dirty cops. 1779 01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:16,439 Speaker 23: Where do you want to start? 1780 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 10: Who? 1781 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,280 Speaker 24: It can't be so much easier. We just stole this money. 1782 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 35: I saidear to God, come on, switch, come on, come on, 1783 01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 35: come on, switch. 1784 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 13: Switch. 1785 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:24,720 Speaker 14: Let there be ideas too big to stay ideas and 1786 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,280 Speaker 14: the software to make them sore. 1787 01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:35,600 Speaker 15: Let there be anything. Autodesk The future with AI. 1788 01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:40,280 Speaker 16: Will twist unturned. Cisco is the critical infrastructure for. 1789 01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:45,400 Speaker 17: The AI era, clearing your path to wide open possibility. 1790 01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:47,160 Speaker 16: Cisco. 1791 01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:52,760 Speaker 11: Duncan's five dollar meal deal a yummy wake up wrap, 1792 01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 11: a media lizeed the hot coffee and six crispy Golden 1793 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:03,040 Speaker 11: hash Browns. Duncan's five dollar meal deal a deal for everyone. 1794 01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 19: It ain't my dad's razor dot hey watch it. It's 1795 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,880 Speaker 19: from Jellett lapse. This green bar releases trapped hairs from 1796 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,479 Speaker 19: my face. Game change well to flex. This contours to 1797 01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,599 Speaker 19: it so the five blades can get virtually every hair 1798 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 19: in one stroke for the ultimate geet shaving experience. 1799 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,160 Speaker 20: The best to make you get is Jellette Lapse. 1800 01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:19,800 Speaker 21: We had a crime stop or tip come in. 1801 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:22,519 Speaker 13: We walked into a reel one tonight. 1802 01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,160 Speaker 27: How much you sit on for twenty milt? 1803 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,240 Speaker 13: Any ideas we might want? This money got the cartel, 1804 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:30,120 Speaker 13: dirty cops. 1805 01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:31,519 Speaker 23: Where do you want to start? 1806 01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,400 Speaker 24: It gonna be so much easier. We just stole this money. 1807 01:22:42,439 --> 01:23:22,000 Speaker 35: I swear to God. Come on, switch, come on, switch. 1808 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:32,519 Speaker 12: Switch. 1809 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:39,800 Speaker 14: Let there be ideas too big to stay ideas and 1810 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,360 Speaker 14: the software to make them sore. 1811 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:50,760 Speaker 15: Let there be anything. Autodesk The future with AI. 1812 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:55,400 Speaker 16: Will twist unturned. Cisco is the critical infrastructure for. 1813 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:59,920 Speaker 17: The AI era, clearing your path to wide open pass 1814 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,240 Speaker 17: affinity Cisco. 1815 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,280 Speaker 18: Duncan's five dollar meal deal. 1816 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,840 Speaker 11: A yummy wake up wrap, a medium lifet hot coffee, 1817 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 11: and six crispy Golden hash Browns. 1818 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,120 Speaker 18: Duncan's five dollar meal deal a deal for everyone. 1819 01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,960 Speaker 19: It ain't my dad's razor dot hey watch it. It's 1820 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,840 Speaker 19: from je Lett Labs. This green bar releases trapped hairs 1821 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,800 Speaker 19: from my face. Game change it well to flex. This 1822 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 19: contours to it so the five blades can get virtually 1823 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 19: every hair in one stroke for the ultimate to let 1824 01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:31,240 Speaker 19: shaving experience. 1825 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,280 Speaker 20: The best to make can get is to Let Labs. 1826 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:34,880 Speaker 21: We had a crime stop or tip come in. 1827 01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:37,599 Speaker 13: We walked into a reel one tonight. 1828 01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:41,519 Speaker 22: How much you sit on over twenty min Any ideas 1829 01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:42,599 Speaker 22: we might want this money? 1830 01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 13: Cartel, dirty cops? 1831 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:46,639 Speaker 23: Where do you want to start? 1832 01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,519 Speaker 24: It gonna be so much easier. We just stole this money. 1833 01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:26,840 Speaker 2: I swear to God, don't bucket. 1834 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,040 Speaker 4: Now. I'm here. 1835 01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:40,960 Speaker 36: What Predy said, fans, well, Mada, what Predit said? 1836 01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:43,800 Speaker 4: All right? 1837 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:48,320 Speaker 6: Back here on Patriots Unfiltered. It is Evan Deuces around 1838 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:52,080 Speaker 6: somewhere there. He's talking to Brian Holloway over there. He's 1839 01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:55,599 Speaker 6: fans here, Anthony and Matt behind the scenes fatists getting 1840 01:25:55,680 --> 01:26:00,720 Speaker 6: us waters. All right, that was Brian Hoyer. We had 1841 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:01,599 Speaker 6: Teddy Carris. 1842 01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:02,360 Speaker 4: What else did we have? 1843 01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:07,519 Speaker 28: We had Greg Rosenthal Rohal little guy. Yes, yes, he 1844 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:11,559 Speaker 28: is kindred spirits. Yeah, you guys go back a long 1845 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,160 Speaker 28: way we do. My first job out of college was 1846 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,639 Speaker 28: putting together research notes for for Greg. 1847 01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:22,479 Speaker 6: And all right, our phone thing went down, Matt, I loved, 1848 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:23,559 Speaker 6: I love talking football. 1849 01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,400 Speaker 9: Brian Hoyr though that he's he's really very good. 1850 01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:30,280 Speaker 6: And you know, like he's he's well spoken, yep, so 1851 01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:34,000 Speaker 6: that like you don't have to pass through uh, you know, 1852 01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,160 Speaker 6: words that are misused and everything like that. He's he 1853 01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,439 Speaker 6: knows what he's talking about and he talks it well. 1854 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,360 Speaker 28: Yeah, when he comes in for for what all access 1855 01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,240 Speaker 28: and whatever. I try to have like one question to 1856 01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:49,599 Speaker 28: ask him every time, and uh, and he one time 1857 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,439 Speaker 28: we were in the downstairs and KSP and I was 1858 01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,960 Speaker 28: asking him about Drake May's some of the drops that 1859 01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 28: he was taking and he was literally doing the footwork 1860 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,960 Speaker 28: right in the middle of the hallway. It was pretty cool. 1861 01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:03,840 Speaker 28: He's very generous with his time. 1862 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:04,400 Speaker 9: Nice guy. 1863 01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, and the knowledge, the background that he has with 1864 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,600 Speaker 10: the West Coast from his time in San Francisco and 1865 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,240 Speaker 10: whatnot has been invaluable. 1866 01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, and just the way he explains it. 1867 01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,719 Speaker 10: Yeah, because there's a lot it's they're very cumbersome play calls. 1868 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,600 Speaker 10: There's a lot of a lot of verbiage, and he 1869 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:21,479 Speaker 10: makes it nice. You guys said, he makes it a lot, 1870 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:22,839 Speaker 10: a lot easier to understand. 1871 01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:26,280 Speaker 28: It's interesting what he said Fred about watching their uh 1872 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,800 Speaker 28: like miked up stuff for the rams and picking up 1873 01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:30,600 Speaker 28: things from the. 1874 01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,120 Speaker 4: That miked up. Immediately thought to myself, don't tell Rabel that. 1875 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,000 Speaker 28: Yeah, Yeah, that was uh that that that was a 1876 01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,840 Speaker 28: little bit illuminating of like, don't give away too much, 1877 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:40,400 Speaker 28: you know. 1878 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,880 Speaker 6: Podcasts at Patriots dot com is the way to email us, 1879 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,800 Speaker 6: Ben and Bridgewater writes in a long time listener, listen 1880 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,679 Speaker 6: to the podcast religiously every week. All I wanted to say, 1881 01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:57,960 Speaker 6: the next episode of Fortune Foxbro is going to be ridiculous. Ben, 1882 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,160 Speaker 6: You're absolutely right, win or lose. I'll tell you that 1883 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,240 Speaker 6: the next episode is gonna be ridiculous. Obviously, if we win, 1884 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,679 Speaker 6: it's over the top. But we've got some great stuff 1885 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:12,240 Speaker 6: that we've already shot. So we're gonna have that episode 1886 01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,719 Speaker 6: four coming out after the season and people are gonna 1887 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,120 Speaker 6: love it. I can't wait for that, and we're already 1888 01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,559 Speaker 6: working on it next season. You know, the college All 1889 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,840 Speaker 6: Star games have already happened and we had coverage down there. 1890 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,439 Speaker 6: We'll be getting ready for the Combine. So as soon 1891 01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,160 Speaker 6: as this season is over, we're rolling into twenty twenty six. 1892 01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,240 Speaker 9: Don't remind me. I know I'm very behind. 1893 01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:34,000 Speaker 4: I know. 1894 01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,360 Speaker 6: I love the various This is Eric and Albuquerque. I 1895 01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 6: love the various metaphors used today for describing game types. 1896 01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,080 Speaker 6: I'd like your thoughts on the most likely Super Bowl 1897 01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,599 Speaker 6: game type. Will it be a boat race, a rock fight, 1898 01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 6: a shootout, or a barn burner. 1899 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,639 Speaker 28: I'm go I think I'm kinda trending towards rock fight, honestly, Okay, 1900 01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,320 Speaker 28: and I don't necessarily mean that it's gonna be six 1901 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,479 Speaker 28: to three, But like, I think these two defenses are 1902 01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 28: really really good. 1903 01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,960 Speaker 7: So is barn burner shootout kind of the same. 1904 01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:11,240 Speaker 10: I would say a shootout is very high scoring. A 1905 01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,320 Speaker 10: barn burner means is going down to the wire. Oh, 1906 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,360 Speaker 10: it isn't necessarily so I might be a slight differentiation. 1907 01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,120 Speaker 10: But I kind of agree with Evan now that he 1908 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,120 Speaker 10: said it, because my original thought with rock fight was 1909 01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 10: it's going to be too many points. Yeah, but I 1910 01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:23,880 Speaker 10: would say, and see if you guys agree with me. 1911 01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,439 Speaker 10: The first Patriots Seattle super Bowl twenty eight, twenty four, 1912 01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,760 Speaker 10: I would have I would consider that a rock fight. Yeah, 1913 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,639 Speaker 10: even though there were pl you know, there were points. 1914 01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,479 Speaker 10: I mean they both got to the mid twenties. 1915 01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, I could. It wasn't low scoring per se. I 1916 01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:37,400 Speaker 4: could see it like that. 1917 01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,800 Speaker 28: But uh, I don't know what he's trying to tell me. 1918 01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,320 Speaker 28: But Barth is trying to tell me something. OPTI really 1919 01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:45,720 Speaker 28: it really is unbelievable. They just they can't even be 1920 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:47,960 Speaker 28: They can't bear to be a part. Even when Evan's 1921 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,360 Speaker 28: on the air, he has to be connected. 1922 01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,439 Speaker 7: Well, did you see the Ithaca guys walking around? 1923 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? Told an interview. 1924 01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:58,120 Speaker 28: Oh god, yeah I did see them. And Alex is 1925 01:29:58,200 --> 01:29:59,599 Speaker 28: much better about that than I am. 1926 01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:00,519 Speaker 4: I Yeah, they were. 1927 01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,200 Speaker 10: They were well versed on Alix so much because I 1928 01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:05,760 Speaker 10: just think they feel they can't they can't attain you. 1929 01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,800 Speaker 28: No, No, it's not that he's He's much better at 1930 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,560 Speaker 28: like staying connected to the school and stuff like that 1931 01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,920 Speaker 28: than I am. But yeah, I just kind of I 1932 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:17,280 Speaker 28: don't know if i'd necessarily, Like I said, I don't 1933 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:18,680 Speaker 28: think it's going to be ten to seven like the 1934 01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:22,000 Speaker 28: AFC Championship game, But like, is it a twenty to 1935 01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:25,920 Speaker 28: seventeen game where the defenses kind of win the game, right, 1936 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,559 Speaker 28: you know, but it's offensively maybe there's a couple drives 1937 01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,160 Speaker 28: in there, maybe there's a defensive or special teams touchdown, 1938 01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:36,320 Speaker 28: Like both these teams have defenses and special teams units 1939 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,400 Speaker 28: that can score points, you know, especially in the return 1940 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,519 Speaker 28: game with Jones and Shaheeds, So like it could it 1941 01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,800 Speaker 28: be one of those types of games where, yeah, it's 1942 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,320 Speaker 28: technically twenty seventeen, which isn't terribly low scoring, but you 1943 01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,640 Speaker 28: kind of get there because of the defenses more than 1944 01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:51,680 Speaker 28: you do the offenses. 1945 01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,160 Speaker 6: Eric says, I'm hoping for Patriots dominated boat race, but 1946 01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,759 Speaker 6: I think that's highly unlikely. I'll settle for a shootout. 1947 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,360 Speaker 6: I feel like Sam has a higher chance of buckling 1948 01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,800 Speaker 6: under the pressure. So that's Eric and Albuquerque. 1949 01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:08,000 Speaker 4: Thanks Matisse. 1950 01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:13,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, let's see Eddie and La fred. I love you 1951 01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,040 Speaker 6: to give a taste of my parlay hits. Let me 1952 01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:20,960 Speaker 6: know what the gang thinks. I put down Mare over 1953 01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:24,360 Speaker 6: sixty nine and a half rushing plus receiving yards. 1954 01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:25,800 Speaker 7: I like it. 1955 01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:27,920 Speaker 4: That's a good one. I like that if it's only 1956 01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:28,840 Speaker 4: sixty nine and a half. 1957 01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's But this is a parlay, so 1958 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,559 Speaker 6: not individually. So now you have to hit the rest. 1959 01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,200 Speaker 9: Okay, sorry, so that's one. 1960 01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:38,559 Speaker 6: I guess this is a full leg. That's what they 1961 01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:39,960 Speaker 6: call a four legg parlay. 1962 01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,519 Speaker 4: Yeah good, I mean, yeah, that's that's what the shops 1963 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:42,800 Speaker 4: call it. 1964 01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:47,439 Speaker 6: Okay, Mac Hollins over twenty six and a hay receiving yards, 1965 01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,479 Speaker 6: Kenneth Walker over two and a half receptions, and Rashid 1966 01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,400 Speaker 6: Shaheed over zero point five carries. 1967 01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:56,360 Speaker 7: So you got to hit on all four. 1968 01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:57,559 Speaker 4: I think that's pretty good. 1969 01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,599 Speaker 9: I mean hermandre over sixty nine and a half. 1970 01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,360 Speaker 28: I think it's kind of a lock because I think 1971 01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,080 Speaker 28: he's gonna catch a lot of checkdowns out of the backfield, 1972 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:06,559 Speaker 28: because that's really what Seattle gives up. You know, they 1973 01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:08,280 Speaker 28: don't give up the big plays. But you might be 1974 01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,720 Speaker 28: able to, you know, chip away at them with little 1975 01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:14,320 Speaker 28: dump bops to remandre underneath their zone. So I think 1976 01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:16,360 Speaker 28: that he's gonna probably go way over that, but more 1977 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,719 Speaker 28: so because of the pass catching than the running. 1978 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,400 Speaker 4: And I think the one that could screw you up 1979 01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,840 Speaker 4: here is three catches to Kenneth Walker. 1980 01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,679 Speaker 6: No, MATC Collins over twenty six and a half yards, 1981 01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:27,439 Speaker 6: Like you might have a couple catches. 1982 01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,559 Speaker 28: I like that, Like, oh you do, okay, Well, if 1983 01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,160 Speaker 28: if he hits one of those, you know, twenty yard incuts, 1984 01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:34,840 Speaker 28: you know that's most of it right there. 1985 01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:37,800 Speaker 7: So maybe yep, Jordan wants to know. 1986 01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,240 Speaker 6: Just wondered if you know if the Patriots will continue 1987 01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:43,080 Speaker 6: the streak of Super Bowls entering the field to crazy 1988 01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,720 Speaker 6: train or because we're now in a new era, we'd 1989 01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:46,920 Speaker 6: enter into a new song. 1990 01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,680 Speaker 4: No, they've gone back to yasuly what they use. I 1991 01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:50,600 Speaker 4: think they'll stick with that. 1992 01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:51,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1993 01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:52,840 Speaker 4: I think they'll do what they've been doing all year. 1994 01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,439 Speaker 10: So I would just say an opening night Monday night, 1995 01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,680 Speaker 10: when the Patriots came out, it was crazy. 1996 01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:58,599 Speaker 9: It was correct. 1997 01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:02,519 Speaker 8: Yeah, the play guys. I just saw Martha Stewart over there. 1998 01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,000 Speaker 8: Oh really, she's a snoop here. I was like, who's 1999 01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,080 Speaker 8: getting these pictures and I'm like, who's that lady. I'd 2000 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,559 Speaker 8: love to talk to her about slot. Soap with the slot, and. 2001 01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:15,960 Speaker 4: I have a business opportunity for you. Yeah, I'm soap 2002 01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:17,040 Speaker 4: with a slot. 2003 01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,840 Speaker 9: Just big Martha fan. Big Martha fan has a bunch 2004 01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:22,639 Speaker 9: of Martha Stewart items. 2005 01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:26,000 Speaker 6: I mean, she's hard, she's done time, she's done time, 2006 01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:27,719 Speaker 6: right yeah, right, well, yeah. 2007 01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:29,840 Speaker 33: The mountain from Game of Thrones is walking around. 2008 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:34,200 Speaker 4: Oh no, really it is huge. I mean yeah, oh, 2009 01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,720 Speaker 4: I'd like to see that. I'd like to see that. 2010 01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:38,720 Speaker 13: What is that? 2011 01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:41,800 Speaker 4: Well, you know, well, guys, I appreciate you humoring me 2012 01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:42,360 Speaker 4: there for a second. 2013 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:45,120 Speaker 8: I got in a conversation with Brian Holloway nineteen eighty 2014 01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:47,760 Speaker 8: five Patriots, and let's just say he gave me some 2015 01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:51,200 Speaker 8: really interesting information that even after doing a ten part 2016 01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:53,840 Speaker 8: podcast about the season, that I was not aware of. 2017 01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,400 Speaker 4: So oh yeah, Brian, yeah, bonus episode. 2018 01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,559 Speaker 8: Anything you can talk about on air, one I definitely can't. 2019 01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,000 Speaker 8: But one that I can talk about was just, you know, 2020 01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:04,479 Speaker 8: the in the game against the Bears, it was a 2021 01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:08,360 Speaker 8: pass game plan and Brian said, we did not want 2022 01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,519 Speaker 8: to go in and try to throw the ball. He's 2023 01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,880 Speaker 8: like Richard dent was like two hundred and forty pounds. 2024 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,680 Speaker 8: He's like, let me plow over him. You know, I 2025 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,479 Speaker 8: know that that probably wouldn't have solved everything, but but 2026 01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,040 Speaker 8: it was just funny to all of a sudden turn 2027 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,439 Speaker 8: around after doing the whole project, right, Maddie, and then 2028 01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:25,439 Speaker 8: there's the left tackle of the team sitting right there. 2029 01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,280 Speaker 4: So that was pretty cool conversation with yeh. 2030 01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:29,519 Speaker 7: Let's go back to the phones. 2031 01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,880 Speaker 6: We have some people that have been as no socks 2032 01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:36,360 Speaker 6: says patiently waiting, Patty is an agawam. What's up, Patty? 2033 01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:39,040 Speaker 10: You can use the mouse pad there, all right, that's 2034 01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,720 Speaker 10: just I mean, well, you're struggling like I was trying 2035 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:41,960 Speaker 10: to help. 2036 01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:47,759 Speaker 6: What's up, Patty? Patty? Patty? 2037 01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:48,120 Speaker 7: Are you there? 2038 01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,080 Speaker 4: Petay? Patty? 2039 01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:50,600 Speaker 29: Come on? 2040 01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:51,320 Speaker 4: I guess not. 2041 01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:57,440 Speaker 7: Okay, how about we go to oh Oliver in Australia? 2042 01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:01,519 Speaker 6: What's up Oliver? Hello? Hello? 2043 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,360 Speaker 7: He you hear yes, you can't hear you? 2044 01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:04,439 Speaker 33: What's up? 2045 01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:04,760 Speaker 29: Guys? 2046 01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:05,439 Speaker 4: Yeah? 2047 01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:07,080 Speaker 2: How are you going? 2048 01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:08,479 Speaker 4: Awesome? 2049 01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:11,240 Speaker 37: Okay, yeah, fantastic. 2050 01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:11,559 Speaker 15: Yeah. 2051 01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,320 Speaker 37: I have a couple of things. The first things was 2052 01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:17,599 Speaker 37: that I'm not just any fans out there in Brisbane, 2053 01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,360 Speaker 37: but there's a few of us here and we're gonna 2054 01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:24,519 Speaker 37: go mate playing hotel ah. But yeah, I'm not sure 2055 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,639 Speaker 37: how any there are. Second thing, second, I was just wondering, 2056 01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,800 Speaker 37: what did you guys thoughts on how Julian Ashby's gone 2057 01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:33,920 Speaker 37: as a snapper this year, Like, obviously snappers don't get 2058 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,000 Speaker 37: drafted all that often, and as you're placing those spiders 2059 01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:38,599 Speaker 37: show Cardana, what have you thought. 2060 01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:42,600 Speaker 4: Well, I haven't heard his name a lot. Yeah, I 2061 01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,320 Speaker 4: don't think he's had any No, not any, not one. 2062 01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:47,120 Speaker 8: We talked to Donnie Paxton a little bit about that 2063 01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,479 Speaker 8: yesterday and he was talking about the challenges of it, 2064 01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,559 Speaker 8: but a little different now that you can't line up 2065 01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:54,160 Speaker 8: right over the long snapper in the past, Lonnie said, 2066 01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:56,000 Speaker 8: they just try to come in there and kill you, Yeah, 2067 01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,120 Speaker 8: and make you not think about making the snap. 2068 01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,200 Speaker 4: But hard to do that, but that's good. Yeah, they 2069 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:01,639 Speaker 4: so Oliver. 2070 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:05,479 Speaker 28: There's a lot of injuries obviously because the guy's down 2071 01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,120 Speaker 28: snapping and looking back to the punter the holder, and 2072 01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,280 Speaker 28: then the guy would line up right over him and 2073 01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:13,240 Speaker 28: just bowl him over before he could get his head 2074 01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,760 Speaker 28: up and make the block. So they they did away 2075 01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,439 Speaker 28: with that rule and no offense to any long snappers 2076 01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:19,400 Speaker 28: that are currently in the league. 2077 01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,640 Speaker 9: It's a lot easier to long snap now than it 2078 01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,560 Speaker 9: was when they, you know, before they put that rule in. 2079 01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:27,799 Speaker 7: So Teaks and San Matteo, what's up, Teak. 2080 01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:31,439 Speaker 38: Hey, thanks for taking the call. It's awesome to have 2081 01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,200 Speaker 38: you guys here. I hope there has been treating you well. 2082 01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:38,439 Speaker 38: I have two quick questions. I've heard there's an open 2083 01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:40,960 Speaker 38: practice tomorrow at Stanford. Is that truly open to public 2084 01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,400 Speaker 38: fans to go? And if so, what's kind of the 2085 01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:44,960 Speaker 38: timing on that to the practice. 2086 01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:47,519 Speaker 6: I'm not sure if I'm not sure if it's open 2087 01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,479 Speaker 6: to fans. I know that the Patriots are bringing some 2088 01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,559 Speaker 6: corporate sponsors there. They're gonna have like a little reception 2089 01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:58,640 Speaker 6: at the practice, but I'm not sure it's no, I 2090 01:36:58,680 --> 01:36:59,320 Speaker 6: don't think it is. 2091 01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,880 Speaker 38: Okay, God, okay, that's kind of what I feared out 2092 01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:05,920 Speaker 38: instead open, but I feared it maybe not be truly 2093 01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:06,920 Speaker 38: truly open in that sense. 2094 01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:08,559 Speaker 4: I think might be more media there. 2095 01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:12,360 Speaker 39: Baby, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. 2096 01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:12,880 Speaker 4: That makes sense. 2097 01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,559 Speaker 38: Question is if you had to replace a position group 2098 01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,080 Speaker 38: for this Super Bowl from a position group from one 2099 01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:21,760 Speaker 38: of the other winning Super Bowls, which kind of group 2100 01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:25,040 Speaker 38: would you replace that with running back to wide receiver, 2101 01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:28,439 Speaker 38: and you would also have to win that original Super 2102 01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:32,519 Speaker 38: Bowl too with the players. Okay, so kind of cruft 2103 01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,320 Speaker 38: of what position group are kind of really worried about, but. 2104 01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:38,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, just curious. I doubt and Okay, that's a good question, Tike. 2105 01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:38,920 Speaker 6: Thanks for the call. 2106 01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:42,080 Speaker 4: I really have a whole position group safety that I'm 2107 01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,760 Speaker 4: worried about. Maybe the safeties. And I don't mean disrespect 2108 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,240 Speaker 4: the current safeties. They've done good. 2109 01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:50,760 Speaker 8: But you know, Devin mccordy do and jump and they 2110 01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,000 Speaker 8: were they were a pretty good trioch. 2111 01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:54,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if they fit the ski. 2112 01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:59,920 Speaker 6: What about linebackers, Bruce, They don't run fast enough, Ted Johnson, 2113 01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:04,759 Speaker 6: you know, like the uh one to oh three linebackers. 2114 01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,000 Speaker 4: But you wouldn't want them play in it today's game. 2115 01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:08,120 Speaker 7: That's true. They're a little bit different style. 2116 01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:10,240 Speaker 4: Evan could give you a half hour on this. 2117 01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:14,200 Speaker 28: Yeah, yeah, I mean I kind of took the question 2118 01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:16,360 Speaker 28: maybe slightly different. I would just say tight end so 2119 01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:20,640 Speaker 28: we can have Gronk. My first my first thought was 2120 01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:24,240 Speaker 28: like a wide receiver group with you know, like Massa. Well, yeah, 2121 01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,479 Speaker 28: that's no disrespect to Hunter Henry. But if I can 2122 01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:29,320 Speaker 28: pick the greatest tight end of all time and put 2123 01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,679 Speaker 28: them on the current team. Then I'm probably gonna gonna 2124 01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:31,920 Speaker 28: do that. 2125 01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:38,360 Speaker 6: That's fair enough, good enough, fair enough. How about Kevin 2126 01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,200 Speaker 6: in San Francisco right down the street. 2127 01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:46,080 Speaker 39: Hey Kevin, Hey, how's it going guys? 2128 01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:47,439 Speaker 4: Hey Kevin? How you doing. 2129 01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:49,360 Speaker 6: Good? Good? 2130 01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:49,639 Speaker 32: Good? 2131 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:49,960 Speaker 6: Hey? 2132 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,200 Speaker 39: I wanted just a quick question. 2133 01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,559 Speaker 29: The Saturday event. You said you're taping something? 2134 01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:57,240 Speaker 6: Is that? 2135 01:38:58,120 --> 01:38:59,479 Speaker 39: Is that a splash did you mention? 2136 01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:01,360 Speaker 7: I believe so. 2137 01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:07,320 Speaker 4: Let me check my messages because I got Yeah, Saturday 2138 01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,960 Speaker 4: afternoon there will be a yeah, the program. 2139 01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:13,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, so Saturday from three to six sports that splash 2140 01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:13,760 Speaker 6: sports Bar. 2141 01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:18,439 Speaker 4: Yep, Paul, you'll be there, right, I will be there. Yeah, 2142 01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:19,920 Speaker 4: I will be there. 2143 01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, Paul will be there because he's on the show. 2144 01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:23,200 Speaker 7: I'll probably be there. 2145 01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:25,400 Speaker 9: You'll probably see my name on the marquee out front. 2146 01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:27,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I might. I might be Do you want us 2147 01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:29,519 Speaker 4: to go? Would you be excited to see us if 2148 01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:30,120 Speaker 4: we went? Due? 2149 01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:32,760 Speaker 28: Deuce is just very anti going because it's so far 2150 01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:33,920 Speaker 28: away from our hotel. 2151 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,760 Speaker 4: The commute has beating him back. He would last day 2152 01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:39,360 Speaker 4: like you and I. 2153 01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,560 Speaker 28: Getting in LA for eighteen years and now all of 2154 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,320 Speaker 28: a sudden, traffic is bothering. 2155 01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:45,880 Speaker 4: Anything more than a twelve minute commute. I'm like, I 2156 01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:46,320 Speaker 4: can't do it. 2157 01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:50,120 Speaker 9: Okay, okay, Sharon boy, all right, I thought it would 2158 01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:50,680 Speaker 9: be fair to go. 2159 01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:51,960 Speaker 4: No, I think it'd be fun. 2160 01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:53,479 Speaker 10: I was, I was gonna get it would be great 2161 01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:54,439 Speaker 10: if all you guys came. 2162 01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:58,200 Speaker 4: It would be appreciate that, all right? At a minimum? 2163 01:39:58,280 --> 01:39:59,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, I got there. 2164 01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,040 Speaker 10: We we'll be taping uh the uh, the all Access 2165 01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:06,800 Speaker 10: program Saturday. I believe at four pm. 2166 01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:08,720 Speaker 4: Local you'll be occupied with your television du. 2167 01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:12,000 Speaker 6: People and you have the cloud Friday night at Underdog's 2168 01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:14,719 Speaker 6: Cantina from four to seven. There's another rolly. 2169 01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,240 Speaker 4: I might be going there on Saturday before we go 2170 01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:21,200 Speaker 4: to splot you hype in the crowd up. He's got uh, he's. 2171 01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,200 Speaker 28: He's got obligations, he's got he's got autoground one of 2172 01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:26,759 Speaker 28: your shows. 2173 01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:28,800 Speaker 10: We'll see, we'll see. I don't know if I don't 2174 01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,479 Speaker 10: know if the Lovely Elizabeth will be down for for. 2175 01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:32,160 Speaker 7: For all that. 2176 01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:34,519 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a long day for just gotta chime in 2177 01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:37,000 Speaker 8: real quick. We were talking eighty five Pats Marcus Allen 2178 01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:41,800 Speaker 8: right there. They shut him down in the ANC divisional. 2179 01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:44,439 Speaker 4: Game, and so bad and so bad. 2180 01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:49,880 Speaker 7: Let's go to Brian in Alberta. What's up, Brian. 2181 01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:58,080 Speaker 4: It's the there's the Beatle Zolac and the Beatle Radio road. 2182 01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:59,800 Speaker 7: Hey, Brian, you there, Brian? 2183 01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:01,679 Speaker 39: Hey, how's it going good? 2184 01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:02,200 Speaker 4: You got me? 2185 01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:07,560 Speaker 39: Hey, So a longtime listener, first time caller. I just 2186 01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:09,680 Speaker 39: got a quick question here. I was rewatching some of 2187 01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:13,840 Speaker 39: the old Super Bowls and looking at some of those performances, 2188 01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,040 Speaker 39: like unsung heroes, guys that really had an impact on 2189 01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,439 Speaker 39: the game, but it may not necessarily be a household name. 2190 01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,880 Speaker 39: Who's one player you see on this current roster that 2191 01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:28,080 Speaker 39: you could first see having one of those unsung hero performances. 2192 01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,360 Speaker 39: I'm thinking of like Shane Vereen eleven catches in Super 2193 01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:33,720 Speaker 39: Bowl forty nine, a lot of those coming in the 2194 01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:37,400 Speaker 39: fourth quarter. Anyway, we'll take it off here, all right. 2195 01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,840 Speaker 7: Who who could have an unsung hero type game? 2196 01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,240 Speaker 9: Jack Gibbons. Oh, it's a good one, Paul. 2197 01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:46,639 Speaker 10: If Roberts Blaine is compromised and all of a sudden, 2198 01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:48,960 Speaker 10: Gibbons has to play and he plays well. We might 2199 01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:51,839 Speaker 10: be hearing about, you know, him making eight or ten tackles, 2200 01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,559 Speaker 10: maybe a past defense or something, and yeah, puts maybe 2201 01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:56,040 Speaker 10: even involved in a turnover. 2202 01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:57,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a good one. 2203 01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:58,880 Speaker 6: I think there's I mean, I think there's a couple 2204 01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:03,120 Speaker 6: guys like Pop Douglas. You know, if he were to 2205 01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:06,320 Speaker 6: have six catches for like eighty yards and you know, 2206 01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,240 Speaker 6: would qualify that would be something he really hasn't done 2207 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,280 Speaker 6: all year in a in a single game, you know, 2208 01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:13,320 Speaker 6: could qualify him. 2209 01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,720 Speaker 28: You know, yeah, yeah, I know it always feels like 2210 01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:19,640 Speaker 28: that that happens, and it probably is true. But like 2211 01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:22,280 Speaker 28: this team is like filled with those types of guys, 2212 01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:24,640 Speaker 28: so it's kind of hard to like say, you know, 2213 01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:28,519 Speaker 28: like does tong account anymore? You know, Jack Gibbons is 2214 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:32,679 Speaker 28: a good one, but they kind of gotten contributions from 2215 01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:33,800 Speaker 28: everybody all year. 2216 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:37,720 Speaker 10: So we had Greg rosenbum He mentioned Kyle Williams, which 2217 01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,479 Speaker 10: I could absolutely see him catch all, you know, maybe 2218 01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:43,360 Speaker 10: three balls for eighty yards because maybe he catches two 2219 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:44,400 Speaker 10: deep ones, right you. 2220 01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:46,960 Speaker 4: Know, yeah, yep. It's like we talked about yesterday. 2221 01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:50,960 Speaker 8: This whole team feels like mostly the underrated guys that 2222 01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,639 Speaker 8: pop up, and you know, when this team's at their best, 2223 01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:56,600 Speaker 8: it's guys that you look down the stat sheet with 2224 01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:59,960 Speaker 8: receptions and it's like four three two two three you know, 2225 01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:02,280 Speaker 8: like it's yeah, spread the ball around. I mean, sure, 2226 01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,120 Speaker 8: there's gonna be games where maybe Digs goes off or 2227 01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,200 Speaker 8: Hunter Henry has you know, a big game, and or 2228 01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:07,920 Speaker 8: maybe you know, a couple of catches down the field 2229 01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:09,479 Speaker 8: for one of the other guys like Booty. 2230 01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:10,639 Speaker 4: But that's the game. 2231 01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:13,080 Speaker 8: I'd love to see this spreading the ball around, everybody 2232 01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:14,840 Speaker 8: contribute and keeping Seattle on their heels. 2233 01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:15,720 Speaker 4: Uh. 2234 01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:18,519 Speaker 6: Cody says, my favorite random prop of the week is 2235 01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:21,360 Speaker 6: a McDaniel special over two and a half players to 2236 01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:24,960 Speaker 6: throw a pass plus one hundred and sixty odds. 2237 01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,679 Speaker 8: Over two and a half, so both quarterbacks plus they're 2238 01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:31,080 Speaker 8: not even buying the two players, yea, you gotta get 2239 01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:31,599 Speaker 8: to three. 2240 01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:33,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, threes like a lot. 2241 01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:38,640 Speaker 28: Well, it includes the quarterbacks, right, that's two of them, right, 2242 01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:40,000 Speaker 28: so only one other player? 2243 01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:41,639 Speaker 7: One other player has to throw a pass? 2244 01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:43,479 Speaker 4: Is it for oh? For one team? All right? 2245 01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:46,360 Speaker 28: I got I thought you met for one why quarterbacks 2246 01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:49,599 Speaker 28: throwing a pass? Because Sam Darnold and Drake may are 2247 01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:50,599 Speaker 28: both going to throw a pass? 2248 01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:52,840 Speaker 9: I thought he said it was a Josh McDaniel's problem. 2249 01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,760 Speaker 6: It said, it's a Josh McDaniel special. Yeah, right, So 2250 01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:00,760 Speaker 6: it's one team. I don't know, it's both teams. He 2251 01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,519 Speaker 6: didn't specify that, Oh, it's both teams. 2252 01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:07,400 Speaker 4: It's literally I'm not you guys. 2253 01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:09,679 Speaker 9: More on the gambling, Freddy Freddy. 2254 01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:12,160 Speaker 28: But in a quarterback throws a pass in the game, right, 2255 01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:15,000 Speaker 28: either team like a lot honestly, Yeah. 2256 01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:18,519 Speaker 10: Like that's that's I would say, highly likely to happen. Yeah, 2257 01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,240 Speaker 10: somebody other than a quarterback throws a pass. That's why 2258 01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:25,360 Speaker 10: I think that prop is I heard one team crazy. Yeah, 2259 01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:27,000 Speaker 10: you know, yeah, I hear what you're saying. 2260 01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:28,680 Speaker 28: I thought the prop was crazy because I was like, 2261 01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,360 Speaker 28: that's I feel like that's a lock that that one 2262 01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,000 Speaker 28: of these teams is going to try a trick play, 2263 01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:36,080 Speaker 28: if not ball like, I would be surprised if they didn't. 2264 01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:40,639 Speaker 6: Miken Winchester, Virginia would like to talk about the run games, 2265 01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:43,920 Speaker 6: specifically Henderson. While I know he hasn't had many touches 2266 01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:46,000 Speaker 6: this postseason, I'd like to talk about the ones he 2267 01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:48,840 Speaker 6: has had. All of his big plays in the regular season, 2268 01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,519 Speaker 6: at least that I can remember, come from runs to 2269 01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,080 Speaker 6: the outside the tackles. This is where I feel he 2270 01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:56,920 Speaker 6: worked best in the postseason. All of his runs have 2271 01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:00,080 Speaker 6: seemingly been inside rushes, which I believe isn't playing to 2272 01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:03,120 Speaker 6: his strengths. Not sure if I'm imagining this or not, 2273 01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:06,879 Speaker 6: but wanted to get your takes as seeing the ball doers. 2274 01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:11,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say that both sides are a little exaggerated. 2275 01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:15,160 Speaker 10: Not all of his plays were like wide, like outside 2276 01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,360 Speaker 10: around the ends. Some of them were, some of them 2277 01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:20,000 Speaker 10: were off tackle that he bounded up hitting and bouncing 2278 01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:23,200 Speaker 10: them wide for big plays. And I would say that 2279 01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:26,479 Speaker 10: not all of his carries in the playoffs have been inside. 2280 01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,920 Speaker 10: He's had plenty of stretch opportunities. He hasn't run as well, 2281 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:31,400 Speaker 10: and they haven't blocked it as well. I mean, he 2282 01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:34,840 Speaker 10: hasn't had a lot of room to run. Sometimes this 2283 01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:38,799 Speaker 10: happens Stevenson's been a little bit hot, and it seems 2284 01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:40,599 Speaker 10: like there's a little bit more room to run when 2285 01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:42,600 Speaker 10: he's gotten it. Earlier in the season. It was the 2286 01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,760 Speaker 10: opposite when when Henderson started to catch fire. It was 2287 01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:47,599 Speaker 10: like Stevenson would go in and run into a brick 2288 01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:49,400 Speaker 10: wall and then all of a sudden, Henderson will rip 2289 01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:51,760 Speaker 10: off a twelve yard run, and it just was like, 2290 01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:53,240 Speaker 10: why can't Stevenson do that? 2291 01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:53,880 Speaker 4: It was weird. 2292 01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:57,400 Speaker 28: Yeah, I just feel like when we talk about Henderson 2293 01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:00,760 Speaker 28: like this, it's like, if all you're gonna do when 2294 01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:02,200 Speaker 28: you put him on the field is toss him the 2295 01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:04,240 Speaker 28: football outside, you can't work. 2296 01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:05,000 Speaker 4: It doesn't work. 2297 01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:07,880 Speaker 28: So you know, he gets his carries and you know 2298 01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:10,800 Speaker 28: they might be setting up some things, and in order 2299 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:12,840 Speaker 28: to do that, you got to run him inside first 2300 01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:15,120 Speaker 28: before you can run him outside. If the only thing 2301 01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:16,640 Speaker 28: that he does when he gets on the field is 2302 01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,080 Speaker 28: is is getting toss and get out on the edge, 2303 01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:21,240 Speaker 28: and the defense is going to overplay the toss and 2304 01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:23,240 Speaker 28: there's gonna be nothing for him. You know a lot 2305 01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:25,839 Speaker 28: of these plays too, are our stretch runs are outside 2306 01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,160 Speaker 28: zone where he's got reads, you know, and so if 2307 01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,760 Speaker 28: the read is to cut it back inside, the ball 2308 01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:31,479 Speaker 28: funnels back. 2309 01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:32,280 Speaker 4: And said, I think. 2310 01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,479 Speaker 10: People look at that it's like an outside play. Well, yeah, 2311 01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,639 Speaker 10: like the remember the Buffalo one where he reverse field. Yeah, 2312 01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:41,000 Speaker 10: that was kind of a stretch play to the right. Yep, 2313 01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:43,320 Speaker 10: that got completely bottled up and he just cut it 2314 01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,240 Speaker 10: back and there was no contain and he went left. 2315 01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:47,160 Speaker 4: That wasn't necessarily a wide play. 2316 01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:50,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, and that he ends up going sixty whatever, 2317 01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:51,639 Speaker 10: sixty five, you're onto a touchdown. 2318 01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:51,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 2319 01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,040 Speaker 28: I think it technically might have hit in the ber 2320 01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:56,160 Speaker 28: se gap, but the one in Tampa Bay was right 2321 01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,560 Speaker 28: up the gut, like you know, like I mean, it 2322 01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:00,320 Speaker 28: was yeah, like that one. 2323 01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:01,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2324 01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:05,320 Speaker 28: But I think that his right now, you know, on 2325 01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:08,360 Speaker 28: the film in the playoffs, his reads have not been 2326 01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:11,759 Speaker 28: very good. You know, he's not really seeing the space 2327 01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:15,280 Speaker 28: inside the tackles right now, uh to. And I think 2328 01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:18,240 Speaker 28: that when you start to look at mental mistakes like 2329 01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:20,519 Speaker 28: that can lose you playoff games if you have a 2330 01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:23,640 Speaker 28: guy out there that either isn't seeing it well, or 2331 01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,760 Speaker 28: isn't picking up a blitzwell or something like that. I mean, 2332 01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:29,439 Speaker 28: we saw, you know, one of the biggest games and 2333 01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:31,320 Speaker 28: or plays in twenty eight to three was a strip 2334 01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:33,600 Speaker 28: sat because the running back didn't pick up Dante Hi 2335 01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,640 Speaker 28: Tower on the blitz, he came comes unblocked and that 2336 01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:39,640 Speaker 28: that changed the entire course of the game. You know, 2337 01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,439 Speaker 28: it just is hard to when a player is kind 2338 01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:44,439 Speaker 28: of struggling mentally like that, to put him on the 2339 01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,120 Speaker 28: field in an AFC championship game or a Super Bowl 2340 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:48,600 Speaker 28: is asking a. 2341 01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,280 Speaker 4: Lot, uh Seana Toronto. 2342 01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:53,200 Speaker 6: I think Marcus Jones is a sneaky good pick for 2343 01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,479 Speaker 6: super Bowl MVP. Whether it's a pick six, a putt return, 2344 01:47:56,680 --> 01:48:00,160 Speaker 6: or maybe an offensive touchdown. He's a playmaker and I 2345 01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:02,839 Speaker 6: think he could show up in multiple ways on Sunday. 2346 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:06,240 Speaker 4: I like it. You always like Marcus Jones. 2347 01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,800 Speaker 9: I do I worry about Marcus Jones in this game? 2348 01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:10,120 Speaker 9: You worry about him? 2349 01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:10,320 Speaker 6: I do? 2350 01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:13,679 Speaker 28: Do I worry about him because they don't really play 2351 01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:15,840 Speaker 28: a whole lot of three receiver. They play a lot 2352 01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:17,960 Speaker 28: of heavy personnel and they run the ball a ton. 2353 01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:20,559 Speaker 28: So you know, we were talking to Greg a little 2354 01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,200 Speaker 28: bit about the personnel matching for the Patriots offense against 2355 01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:25,920 Speaker 28: the Seahawks defense. I think one of the fascinating things 2356 01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:27,759 Speaker 28: in this game for me is how are the Patriots 2357 01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,080 Speaker 28: going to match heavy personnel defensively? Are they going to 2358 01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:32,880 Speaker 28: play based defense? They play base defense and you're taking 2359 01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:35,439 Speaker 28: Marcus Jones off the field. You know, they run a 2360 01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:38,240 Speaker 28: lot of the outside zone. It's you know, West Coast scheme, 2361 01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:42,240 Speaker 28: Shanahan Tree, you know, so they put the nickel on 2362 01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:45,639 Speaker 28: the field. He's the strong side linebacker to the run 2363 01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,919 Speaker 28: side on where they're trying to run it outside. 2364 01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:50,400 Speaker 9: I just wonder how they they go about doing that 2365 01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:51,320 Speaker 9: because he's such a good. 2366 01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:51,920 Speaker 4: Player for them. 2367 01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:54,959 Speaker 28: You know, you don't want to diminish his role completely, 2368 01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:57,760 Speaker 28: But I don't know if this is like a huge 2369 01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:00,720 Speaker 28: nickel game for the Patriots, a little bit safety role. 2370 01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:03,040 Speaker 28: That's what I was talking to with Barth yesterday on 2371 01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:05,680 Speaker 28: catch twenty two. You know, do you like kind of 2372 01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,479 Speaker 28: invert it where you put like Woods in there, Hawkins 2373 01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,479 Speaker 28: more in that nickel role and you have Marcus Jones 2374 01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:14,160 Speaker 28: playing in the back end instead, just to get. 2375 01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:15,640 Speaker 9: Him on the field and have him, you know, be 2376 01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:16,400 Speaker 9: on the field. 2377 01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,200 Speaker 28: You know, they will play three receivers on third down 2378 01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,160 Speaker 28: obviously when they have to pass, but you know they're 2379 01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:24,439 Speaker 28: gonna play a lot of two tight ends. I'm assuming 2380 01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:27,120 Speaker 28: they're gonna want to try to get the Patriots into baits. 2381 01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:28,600 Speaker 9: That's gonna be what they want to do. 2382 01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,479 Speaker 28: But if you stay in nickel, you know, can you 2383 01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:34,439 Speaker 28: hold up against the run in nickel well enough to 2384 01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:37,160 Speaker 28: keep your five defensive backs on the field. 2385 01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:40,600 Speaker 6: Let's see Dean is in Liverpool and he wants to 2386 01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:43,720 Speaker 6: talk about Tom Brady. He says, no, Tom Brady does 2387 01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,240 Speaker 6: not have to remain impartial in the way people keep 2388 01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:49,680 Speaker 6: pretending he does. He owns some tiny minority stake in 2389 01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:52,640 Speaker 6: the Raiders. He's not the owner, not an executive, not 2390 01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:53,519 Speaker 6: making decisions. 2391 01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:56,160 Speaker 28: Well, I don't know about that absolutely, just man, I'm 2392 01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:58,240 Speaker 28: pretty sure he's now he You know how you have 2393 01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:00,559 Speaker 28: to submit to the league, like who's like your top 2394 01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:01,400 Speaker 28: decision makers? 2395 01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:03,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm pretty sure his name is on there for 2396 01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:04,439 Speaker 9: the Raiders now. 2397 01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2398 01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:05,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2399 01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,320 Speaker 6: As a broadcaster, the rule is simple, remain neutral on 2400 01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:10,000 Speaker 6: air during games you're calling. 2401 01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:10,360 Speaker 4: That's it. 2402 01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:14,040 Speaker 6: No rooting, no campaigning, no obvious bias during broadcast, standard 2403 01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:17,640 Speaker 6: stuff off air. There is absolutely no rules stopping him 2404 01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:21,879 Speaker 6: from speaking warmly about the Patriots. Interviews, podcast documentaries, public appearance, 2405 01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:25,200 Speaker 6: and social media all fair game. And here's the key point. 2406 01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:29,640 Speaker 6: People ignore he has no problem openly praising and romanticizing 2407 01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:33,639 Speaker 6: his time in Tampa Bay. Same ownership, state, same broadcasting rules, 2408 01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:38,560 Speaker 6: completely different strategies. So no, this isn't about legality or impartiality. 2409 01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:41,080 Speaker 6: He doesn't have to keep New England at arm's length. 2410 01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:44,600 Speaker 6: He chooses to. That's not rules, that's personal. So I 2411 01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,559 Speaker 6: think the last part of that is true. The first 2412 01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:50,040 Speaker 6: part of it is not, Like, as a broadcaster, you're 2413 01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:51,479 Speaker 6: not supposed to openly root. 2414 01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:51,800 Speaker 4: For a team. 2415 01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:55,599 Speaker 5: Just the way it goes, Oh, I got trouble now, 2416 01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:57,280 Speaker 5: it's not expecting that. 2417 01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:03,080 Speaker 4: Hey, don't be intimidated. Don't be intimidated by the shirt. 2418 01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,599 Speaker 4: But so Matt, I wore the a f C version, 2419 01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:08,200 Speaker 4: just so you know, the A f C West. How 2420 01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:08,759 Speaker 4: are you got. 2421 01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:11,040 Speaker 13: Before? 2422 01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:13,040 Speaker 4: Before I start? You guys do an awesome job. You 2423 01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,160 Speaker 4: guys do an awesome job. I live in Boston. My 2424 01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:19,320 Speaker 4: daughter is one of the hosts of Foxboro, Rush and 2425 01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:22,000 Speaker 4: Nesson for like the last two years. I follow it. 2426 01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:24,040 Speaker 4: You guys are great. You guys, you got job and 2427 01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:26,840 Speaker 4: Patriots in general. There's some teams that really do a 2428 01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,679 Speaker 4: good job on kind of the digital side, and there's 2429 01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:31,960 Speaker 4: other teams that kind of like they you know, they 2430 01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:34,120 Speaker 4: don't even try. It's the mastermind behind it, all right, 2431 01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:38,919 Speaker 4: director of content, great ker. 2432 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:40,720 Speaker 8: Before we get started, I got I brought this up 2433 01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:42,040 Speaker 8: to Matt a couple of years ago with the ownership 2434 01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:44,920 Speaker 8: and my dad and your dad who my condolences. 2435 01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:46,800 Speaker 4: My dad's senses condolence as well when I told him 2436 01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:49,519 Speaker 4: I talked to you. But Dad's worked together, rebucking Matt 2437 01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,919 Speaker 4: worked for my weird uncle Doug in the Rebuk warehouse. 2438 01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,280 Speaker 4: Just what what were you guys doing like stucking shells. Yeah, man, 2439 01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:57,960 Speaker 4: I worked in the warehouse in Stoughton and Danton I 2440 01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:01,439 Speaker 4: would box up shoes and send him to Roger Clemens 2441 01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:04,320 Speaker 4: and Shaquille O'Neal and EMMITTT. Smith. Actually just saw Emmitt 2442 01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:07,000 Speaker 4: Smith and he's like, hey, man, I remember when you 2443 01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,400 Speaker 4: would send me my shoes. Yeah, yeah, that was me. 2444 01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:11,320 Speaker 8: I had to cut tapes for Emmitt Smith, so I'd 2445 01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:12,880 Speaker 8: be in the video intern, you know, I as my 2446 01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:15,240 Speaker 8: intern and got to watch sports and every day and 2447 01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:17,680 Speaker 8: said any time Emmitt Smith popped up or shy Rebuck, you. 2448 01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:19,800 Speaker 4: Know, I actually hate the smell of new shoes to 2449 01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,960 Speaker 4: this day because that a job that does a tough job. 2450 01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:26,080 Speaker 4: Most people like that. I got some of that real quick. 2451 01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:27,759 Speaker 8: I just did a whole thing on the eighty five Patriots, 2452 01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:28,960 Speaker 8: and so many of the guys that I talked to 2453 01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:31,320 Speaker 8: from that team talked about the team in the seventies 2454 01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:32,720 Speaker 8: with your dad, it was a huge part of that. 2455 01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:34,439 Speaker 4: What was it like for you growing up watching the 2456 01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:36,680 Speaker 4: Patriots teams in the seventies. I had no idea. It 2457 01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,320 Speaker 4: was unusual, like people would ask me, what what do 2458 01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:40,560 Speaker 4: you want to do when you grow up I'd be like, 2459 01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:42,400 Speaker 4: I don't know, I guess I'll just play in the NFL. 2460 01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:45,559 Speaker 4: Like my dad had no idea. All my friends their 2461 01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,000 Speaker 4: dads were on the Patriots. It was, uh, you know, 2462 01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:51,519 Speaker 4: the Grogans and Steve Nelson and John Smith and Stanley 2463 01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,040 Speaker 4: Morgan and Mosey Totupu and just I don't know. We 2464 01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,839 Speaker 4: just thought it was normal. We had absolutely no idea 2465 01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:59,600 Speaker 4: how difficult it would be. And my dad actually was 2466 01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:02,640 Speaker 4: like my parents, they were like, hey, you know, you 2467 01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:05,000 Speaker 4: need to really focus on your education. It's really hard 2468 01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:06,920 Speaker 4: to make it to the NFL. And so they really 2469 01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:10,080 Speaker 4: sold that hard. And so I really never even had 2470 01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:12,840 Speaker 4: the dream to go to the NFL until I was 2471 01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:16,960 Speaker 4: a ball boy for the Patriots with Scott Zolac, Hugh Millen, 2472 01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,640 Speaker 4: and Tommy Hodson. And I remember being out there and 2473 01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:21,639 Speaker 4: I remember watching those guys and I bust their balls 2474 01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:22,360 Speaker 4: a little bit, and I'm like. 2475 01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:25,200 Speaker 7: So, I was like, I could do. 2476 01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:30,200 Speaker 6: Especially so. 2477 01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:34,479 Speaker 4: Listen. That was That was the Dick McPherson year. That 2478 01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:36,240 Speaker 4: my first year doing that. I think they won three 2479 01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:39,280 Speaker 4: games that whole season, and Zolac was the third string quarterback. 2480 01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,960 Speaker 4: He might have won two of the game it was, uh, 2481 01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:44,880 Speaker 4: he was like, what's the major league? You know, what's 2482 01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:47,360 Speaker 4: the guy's name on the wild? 2483 01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:53,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, this is perfect because Matt does have the shirt on. 2484 01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:55,200 Speaker 10: We're just talking about Tom Brady. 2485 01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:57,960 Speaker 4: I just I just presented a Seahawks jersey to the 2486 01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:02,719 Speaker 4: Crocodile Hunter's son. Oh okay, he's in Oregon. His dad's 2487 01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:05,920 Speaker 4: obviously from Australia and he's a Seahawks fan. And he 2488 01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:07,320 Speaker 4: had like a giant like I don't know it was 2489 01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:10,040 Speaker 4: a Boa constrictor with him or whatever. So I was 2490 01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:11,840 Speaker 4: trying to play nice. But you are a fish part 2491 01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:13,360 Speaker 4: of that team. I mean that's you know, I feel 2492 01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:14,320 Speaker 4: always feel like to see. 2493 01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:15,800 Speaker 8: And I was kind of cause the Seahawks fan said 2494 01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:18,679 Speaker 8: that this year growing up of launching jersey. 2495 01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:20,760 Speaker 4: But I had a friend who was a huge Seahawks fan. 2496 01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:23,280 Speaker 4: He loved you, and you really you took them to 2497 01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:25,000 Speaker 4: this first line. No, it was kind of cool to 2498 01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,000 Speaker 4: be a part of that franchise because they the franchise 2499 01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:29,320 Speaker 4: was started in seventy six, okay, And so like when 2500 01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:32,000 Speaker 4: you talk about the early teams, were there those guys 2501 01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:35,480 Speaker 4: were around, Steve Jim Zorn, Steve Largent. You know, I 2502 01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:37,360 Speaker 4: think some some great players there that no one really 2503 01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:40,640 Speaker 4: knows about because they were in the Pacific Northwest. So no, 2504 01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:42,560 Speaker 4: it's it's a cool to be a part of something 2505 01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:45,480 Speaker 4: fresh and new in that way. And I think that, uh, 2506 01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,440 Speaker 4: you know you mentioned earlier with you know, the guys 2507 01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:51,560 Speaker 4: in the seventies. I remember Squished the Fish and Bury 2508 01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:54,840 Speaker 4: the Bears and all that kind of stuff. And the 2509 01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:58,800 Speaker 4: relationship between my dad's era and the guys that played 2510 01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:02,080 Speaker 4: in like Mike Rabels era or even like the beyond that, 2511 01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:05,720 Speaker 4: the Matthew Slater era era. It is a fun thing 2512 01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:08,440 Speaker 4: when you can have relationship from generation to generation within 2513 01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:09,800 Speaker 4: a within a football team. Yep. 2514 01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:11,320 Speaker 7: So what's you're thinking on the game? 2515 01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:14,160 Speaker 4: Well, I think there's a lot of people nationally that 2516 01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:17,360 Speaker 4: think that that the Patriots somehow don't deserve to be 2517 01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:19,280 Speaker 4: here because they had an easy schedule. I'm like, that 2518 01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:22,400 Speaker 4: doesn't make sense, Like that doesn't even make any sense, 2519 01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:25,360 Speaker 4: Like how does that like logically, this is the NFL. 2520 01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:27,680 Speaker 4: What are you even talking about that you could maybe 2521 01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:29,600 Speaker 4: argue to me like, well, they didn't have to face 2522 01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:32,280 Speaker 4: bo Nicks, or they didn't have to face you know, CJ. 2523 01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:34,360 Speaker 4: Stroud had this weird game where he was just not 2524 01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:36,360 Speaker 4: himself at all. I don't know what was going on 2525 01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:38,720 Speaker 4: in that game, but uh no, I think the Patriots 2526 01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:41,760 Speaker 4: are a really good team. They've they're way ahead of schedule. 2527 01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:44,640 Speaker 4: They invested all their money on defense and free agency. 2528 01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:47,760 Speaker 4: They went young on offense with guys like Will Campbell 2529 01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:51,120 Speaker 4: and Travon Henderson, obviously Drake, some wide receivers. I think 2530 01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:54,080 Speaker 4: I think they absolutely could win this game. And I've 2531 01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:56,040 Speaker 4: been saying that to every Seahawks people, all the Seahawks 2532 01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:59,280 Speaker 4: people that I talked to. The Patriots can absolutely win 2533 01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:01,600 Speaker 4: this game. And when we went to the super Bowl, 2534 01:56:01,640 --> 01:56:03,160 Speaker 4: we were the one seed in the NFC. We were 2535 01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:05,800 Speaker 4: the best team in football. We lost our super Bowl 2536 01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:08,600 Speaker 4: and it wasn't that close to a wild card team 2537 01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:11,240 Speaker 4: and the Steelers. So trust me when I say, it 2538 01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:13,760 Speaker 4: doesn't matter what you did all regular season. It matters 2539 01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:16,080 Speaker 4: what you do just on Sunday. So sean all instead 2540 01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:18,040 Speaker 4: of kicking around here. There are some questionable calls in 2541 01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:19,880 Speaker 4: that game. If I recall, yeah, but listen, that can happen. 2542 01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:21,600 Speaker 4: But that can happen, and you had. 2543 01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:22,840 Speaker 9: A wide receiver throw pass. 2544 01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:25,200 Speaker 4: So that's a great point though. That's a great point, 2545 01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:27,120 Speaker 4: because I think that's going to show up in this game. 2546 01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:29,600 Speaker 4: Because when you're playing a defense that's the number one 2547 01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:32,280 Speaker 4: team in the NFL, the number one defense in the NFL, 2548 01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:36,160 Speaker 4: you got to you have to manufacture smoking mirror some offense. 2549 01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:39,080 Speaker 4: And what you've seen the Patriots do, especially Josh, for 2550 01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:42,280 Speaker 4: years and years, when he's not feeling great about the matchup, 2551 01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:44,880 Speaker 4: he goes to the double pad that Julian Edelman, Let's 2552 01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:47,920 Speaker 4: try to throw Brady one. Let's they've seen the Philly Special, 2553 01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:50,200 Speaker 4: like all that kind of stuff. And you practice this 2554 01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:54,080 Speaker 4: stuff all season long, maybe for a different opponent. It's 2555 01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:55,960 Speaker 4: just sitting there. It does you no good to take 2556 01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,960 Speaker 4: that fun trick played to April and someone with the 2557 01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:01,760 Speaker 4: resume of Josh Daniels, I could see him being like, 2558 01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:04,880 Speaker 4: I got I got the courage to call this play. 2559 01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:07,560 Speaker 4: Seahawks better be ready, they better be doing the scouting report. 2560 01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:10,080 Speaker 4: Who's a lefty, who's a righty, who was a high 2561 01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:14,160 Speaker 4: school quarterback, who played baseball, all the stuff? So why 2562 01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:14,920 Speaker 4: I loved That's. 2563 01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:16,520 Speaker 10: Why I loved Jim Zoan growing up because I was 2564 01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:18,520 Speaker 10: a terrible high school quarterback and I was lefty. 2565 01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:22,600 Speaker 4: So Jim left there's a lot of lefty hate out there. 2566 01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:26,800 Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot Mike you would hate. Okay, 2567 01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:29,839 Speaker 4: that wasn't very good. Well, Mike Colegrin, coach Joe Montana, 2568 01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:31,880 Speaker 4: and then Steve Young, and then after Steve Young, he 2569 01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:33,840 Speaker 4: basically was like he had brock Heward and he was like, 2570 01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:36,880 Speaker 4: I'm done with lefties. He couldn't flip the plays in 2571 01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:38,480 Speaker 4: his brain. It was all that. 2572 01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:43,720 Speaker 6: So Drake may is an MVP candidate. Yeah, I don't 2573 01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:45,120 Speaker 6: know if he'll win it or not. But does he 2574 01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:45,800 Speaker 6: need to play? 2575 01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:47,960 Speaker 4: But he's probably the runner up? 2576 01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:50,000 Speaker 6: Ye Does he need to play at an m VP 2577 01:57:50,240 --> 01:57:52,320 Speaker 6: level for the Patriots to have a chance in this game? 2578 01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:54,160 Speaker 4: I think he does. Yeah, I think he does. And 2579 01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:55,760 Speaker 4: that's not a slight on the rest of the team. 2580 01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:58,440 Speaker 4: But uh, And I'm a huge, huge, huge Drake May fan. 2581 01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:02,080 Speaker 4: I've I was kind of his calm combine mentor with 2582 01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:04,200 Speaker 4: the quarterback wide receiver group when he came out and 2583 01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:06,640 Speaker 4: all the stuff that they do not measure for at 2584 01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:09,200 Speaker 4: the combine. He was as good as I've as I've 2585 01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:12,840 Speaker 4: ever seen with any player at any position. He was incredible, 2586 01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:16,240 Speaker 4: absolutely incredible, And so we know about the talent and 2587 01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:18,000 Speaker 4: on the field and that kind of stuff. But to me, 2588 01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:21,160 Speaker 4: it's the other stuff. It's the intangibles that really matter. 2589 01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:23,080 Speaker 4: He's got him now, He's got a couple of things 2590 01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:25,880 Speaker 4: I wish he would work on, but but he his 2591 01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:28,840 Speaker 4: upside is so high that I think he could take 2592 01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:32,200 Speaker 4: over a game and someday I think he'll just he'll 2593 01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:35,480 Speaker 4: be like kind of pulling this team along in a 2594 01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:36,880 Speaker 4: way that Josh Allen pulls the Bills. 2595 01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:39,560 Speaker 6: What a couple things that, Yeah, what are the things 2596 01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:40,720 Speaker 6: that you think he needs to work on? 2597 01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:44,680 Speaker 4: Well, fumbles? Oh yeah, no one. I mean, well, because 2598 01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:46,920 Speaker 4: a lot of times as quarterbacks, you think of interceptions 2599 01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,280 Speaker 4: as your fault in fumbles as like, well that's kind 2600 01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:51,880 Speaker 4: of just you know, that just happens, that's somebody else, 2601 01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:55,560 Speaker 4: you know. But but fumbles are actually worse. Interceptions happen 2602 01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:58,120 Speaker 4: like way down the field. Fumbles happened back here. We're 2603 01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:00,840 Speaker 4: giving our defense and even shorter field. So fumbles to 2604 01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:04,160 Speaker 4: me have to be like, you need to actually hate 2605 01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:07,120 Speaker 4: fumbles more than you hate interceptions. And then and then 2606 01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:09,760 Speaker 4: the other one. I think, and I've told Drake this, 2607 01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:12,920 Speaker 4: I need to see way less adventure at the end 2608 01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:14,800 Speaker 4: of his at the end of his plays, at the 2609 01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:17,520 Speaker 4: end of his runs, like could he ends up in 2610 01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:21,040 Speaker 4: the blue tent way way too much? Like way too much, 2611 01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:24,480 Speaker 4: so a little less adventure. You know, you complete ninety 2612 01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:26,160 Speaker 4: one percent of your passes in games. You can't do 2613 01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:28,240 Speaker 4: that from the blue tent. So he missed two games 2614 01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:30,680 Speaker 4: rookie year on a you know, I think concussion for 2615 01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:34,200 Speaker 4: sliding too late even this year, even the shoulder right now, 2616 01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:37,640 Speaker 4: it never needed to happen. And sometimes as a quarterback, 2617 01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:40,720 Speaker 4: you don't learn that lesson until you learn it the 2618 01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,920 Speaker 4: hard way. So hopefully, hopefully he's already learned it. Other 2619 01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:45,760 Speaker 4: end of the spectrum, what's impressed you most about his 2620 01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:48,960 Speaker 4: game this year? I mean, he's awesome, right he like 2621 01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:51,520 Speaker 4: he's he's dominatingly. This is a team that won four 2622 01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:54,440 Speaker 4: games last year and four games the year before. No 2623 01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:56,600 Speaker 4: one's picking them to even, Like I remember people were 2624 01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:58,280 Speaker 4: talking about, like, well, would it be a success if 2625 01:59:58,320 --> 01:59:59,960 Speaker 4: we go eight and eight or whatever the numbers are. 2626 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,320 Speaker 4: Now I forget how many games we play, right, but 2627 02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:05,640 Speaker 4: you know, like could they be a playoff team? Overreaction 2628 02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:09,760 Speaker 4: or underreaction? So he's the MVP runner up. I honestly, 2629 02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:11,040 Speaker 4: you mean, you guys know better than me. But I 2630 02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:14,560 Speaker 4: kind of feel like Patriot fans, even if they had 2631 02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:17,480 Speaker 4: lost a couple of games ago, they'd be like, you 2632 02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:20,400 Speaker 4: know what, though, we're back, we got Rabel, Oh, we 2633 02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:24,040 Speaker 4: got a franchise quarterback. We're good. The future is bright. 2634 02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,920 Speaker 4: So I don't even know where to begin. But I 2635 02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:29,120 Speaker 4: think the biggest thing that I could say to somebody 2636 02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:32,440 Speaker 4: is that he's got all the stuff, the intangibles that 2637 02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:34,840 Speaker 4: that that I believe matter to have a very very 2638 02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:38,560 Speaker 4: long career and have a successful career as the franchise quarterback. 2639 02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:41,400 Speaker 28: When it comes to the fumbling and the sliding and 2640 02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:44,320 Speaker 28: things like that, is that just a young quarterback that's 2641 02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:46,560 Speaker 28: just so super talented and kind of needs to learn, 2642 02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:49,120 Speaker 28: you know, the limitations in the NFL. 2643 02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:50,920 Speaker 9: Like how do you go about fixing those types? 2644 02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:53,080 Speaker 4: I think it's harder for somebody who's a great athlete 2645 02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:56,960 Speaker 4: and has athleticism because he's he's such a dangerous runner, 2646 02:00:57,040 --> 02:00:59,240 Speaker 4: Like I expect him to run for at least forty 2647 02:00:59,320 --> 02:01:01,560 Speaker 4: yards in this game. Like I think that's a major factor, 2648 02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:05,040 Speaker 4: maybe a kryptonite for Seattle also. But so some of 2649 02:01:05,080 --> 02:01:07,120 Speaker 4: it's like how like no more than two hitches in 2650 02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:09,640 Speaker 4: the pocket or left hand pressure is how I would 2651 02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:11,760 Speaker 4: coach it. Specifically you're holding the ball in the pocket, 2652 02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:14,480 Speaker 4: but sometimes your your left hand's just kind of beare 2653 02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:16,720 Speaker 4: like think about if you're holding your your Starbucks or 2654 02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:20,880 Speaker 4: for you you're dun't getting But but that left hand 2655 02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:23,680 Speaker 4: pressure is a factor. So there's things you can coach. 2656 02:01:23,920 --> 02:01:26,000 Speaker 4: Bottom of the ball needs to be above the bottom 2657 02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:28,040 Speaker 4: of the ten on your jersey, like, there's things that 2658 02:01:28,120 --> 02:01:31,960 Speaker 4: you can specifically coach to. But then also just no 2659 02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:33,720 Speaker 4: one when to give up on a play. And and 2660 02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:36,760 Speaker 4: again I think ultimately it's just hating fumbles the way 2661 02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:38,120 Speaker 4: you hate interceptions. 2662 02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:41,040 Speaker 7: All right, Well, Matt Hasselback Saverian's finest. 2663 02:01:41,080 --> 02:01:44,400 Speaker 4: There you go. Yeah, that's right, Clapboard Tree Street down 2664 02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:47,400 Speaker 4: in Westwood. There you go. He's doing great. He was 2665 02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:50,280 Speaker 4: at UCLA, committed to Chip Kelly. He's had four head 2666 02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:53,480 Speaker 4: coaches in two years, so he's t He's just transferred 2667 02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:56,840 Speaker 4: to Appalachian State and Boone, North Carolina, and uh he's 2668 02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:58,120 Speaker 4: really excited and I am too. 2669 02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:02,400 Speaker 6: All right, yeah, thanks for taking the times, thank you. 2670 02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:04,960 Speaker 6: All right, we'll take a break and we'll be back 2671 02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:05,960 Speaker 6: here in radio row