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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna tell you why in just about a minute.

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Speaker 2: But good morning, good morning, it's that time. It's Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. Were broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,

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Speaker 2: Andy Furman. Here's my partner, my friend, Bucky Brooks, Bucky Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: Isn't over yet. It isn't over yet. This marathon is over.

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Speaker 3: It is finally over.

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Speaker 4: The draft is over, the weekend is uh has been

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Speaker 4: a success, and so I'm ready to move forward. You

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Speaker 4: know what?

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Speaker 2: The big question was the big question for the entire

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Speaker 2: week about she do Sander's The big question was, what's

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Speaker 2: gonna happen first? She do Sander's getting drafted? Or are

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Speaker 2: they gonna pick a new pope? What's gonna happen first?

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Speaker 2: Really that was the question. All right, I guess Sander's

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Speaker 2: got picked first. You know, this is the only draft

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Speaker 2: and like since I remember, you know, number one probably

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Speaker 2: one of the weakest drafts, and number two, more hype

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Speaker 2: and more discussion on a kid that wasn't drafted early

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Speaker 2: on than the guys that were drafted. Real, that's basically

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Speaker 2: what this draft was all about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like the hype and the concern or intrigue

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Speaker 4: was understandable given the way that drafts have been kind

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Speaker 4: of sold over the last twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Everything is about the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: We spend most of the time talking about Shadur Sanders

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Speaker 4: and Cam Ward because we are fascinated with quarterbacks. And

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Speaker 4: even though everyone has told us and I would tell

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Speaker 4: you that the quarterbacks were not the best players in

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Speaker 4: the draft, because of our fascination with the position, because

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Speaker 4: of the John Wayne mythical creation that we have with quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: That's what we spent.

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Speaker 4: Our time on and that's ultimately what the coverage was.

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Speaker 3: And we're right.

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Speaker 4: We did a diskservice to a bunch of guys who

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Speaker 4: were drafted because we spent a lot of time obsessing

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Speaker 4: over where should Sanders was going to go?

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Speaker 2: And I apologize because we're full strength today. Our guy

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Speaker 2: Patrick is bat Patrick. Welcome back. We missed you last week.

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Speaker 1: How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: I missed you guys too. I'm glad to be back.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: I did you enjoy your birthday? Pressent? A bucket and

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Speaker 2: I got you on the two of us.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what Andy, after watching my Seahawks do

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Speaker 6: an impressive draft. I had no choice but to use

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Speaker 6: the gift, just to make sure I wasn't dreaming or

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Speaker 6: wasn't you know all that stuff, I had to use it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't clean that thing out. I mean, we got

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Speaker 2: you a Wisitator. That's what you wanted. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: is it washable? I mean I never used o wizinator,

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Speaker 2: but you wanted one, so we got you one.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what, how is it washable? Very very carefully?

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Speaker 6: But hey, you know what, we got to work and

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Speaker 6: it's good to go.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to have We're glad to have you back. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so we're full strength and mock dress or over, thank goodness.

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Speaker 2: And just to make an official can we hear the

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Speaker 2: fifth round pick number one forty four of Shador Sanders

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Speaker 2: yesterday in the drift?

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Speaker 1: Can we hear that?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 1: Is this the moment.

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Speaker 7: The Seattle Seahawks have treated forty fourth pick to the

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Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns With the one hundred and forty fourth pick

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Speaker 7: in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 7: select suresh.

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Speaker 2: Listen to reaction, all right, so it finally it happened.

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Speaker 2: Then people were waiting holding their breath. But when you

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Speaker 2: think about it, Buck, basically that's the way it's supposed

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Speaker 2: they drafted another one prior to him. And I guess

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Speaker 2: he's gonna lose a ton of money. But he he's

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Speaker 2: got a shot and there's a good opportunity there for

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean, ultimately is where you go now

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Speaker 4: was draft weekend for him, he'll have an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: And most guys, that's all they're looking for, that's.

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Speaker 4: All they want, and so he will have an opportunity

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Speaker 4: But he'll have to do it between the lines, and

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Speaker 4: he'll have to do it without the support of his

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Speaker 2: And everybody was looking at that because I think milk

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Speaker 2: Kuipers is so called draft guru, and I give the

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Speaker 2: melk Kuiper going crazy right now. Let me just take

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Speaker 2: a listen to mel Kiper yesterday. What do you have

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Speaker 8: The NFL has been fluids for fifty years when it

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Speaker 8: comes to evaluating quarterback, clueless all that no idea what

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Speaker 8: they're doing in terms of evaluating quarterback. That's proof, there's

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Speaker 8: proof of that. We know exactly what we're talking about

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Speaker 1: They don't.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem. I mean, mel you made a mistake.

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Speaker 2: And it's okay. You know, it's not a big deal.

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Speaker 2: You don't work for a team. You're not a scout,

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Speaker 2: you never played the game, you're not a personnel guy.

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Speaker 2: You picked them up there and it didn't They didn't draft.

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Speaker 2: It would have been a lot nicer for you just

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Speaker 2: go up public and say I goofed, I made a mistake,

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Speaker 2: I was wrong. But he's pointing fingers at guys that

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Speaker 2: you could be so egotistical that you can say you

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Speaker 2: were wrong.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, because I don't think what we do is

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Speaker 4: not when we're evaluating players. It's not playing the guessing

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Speaker 4: doing is suggesting how they're going to play when they

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Speaker 4: get to the league. The draft isn't the victory lat

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Speaker 4: for everybody because someone gets picked. The draft is the

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Speaker 3: In three years.

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Speaker 4: That's when we know when people who were doing all

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Speaker 4: there's no way that Shader Sanders was graded as a

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Speaker 4: mean that he was the first quarterback, but he certainly

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Speaker 4: that's not that even in text with guys from NFL things.

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Speaker 4: There were other things that play that came with it,

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Speaker 4: and the other things that play are the other things

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Speaker 4: unquote character, all right, character involves a couple of things.

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Speaker 4: There's moral character where people have committed heinous acts, crimes

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Speaker 4: that the things that impact that she dor Sanders beyond

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Speaker 4: see if there's a player. If he's there and someone

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Speaker 4: But I can't say that Mail Kaiper is wrong right now.

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Speaker 4: We won't know who's right or wrong until three or

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Speaker 4: four years when they actually play. The draft is nothing

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Speaker 4: but opinions that league people to make selections. It's not

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to come right out now and say

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Speaker 2: I was wrong, and I was wrong last August, prior

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Speaker 2: I thought he was a Heisman Trophy guy. You know

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Speaker 2: he dropped all the way down to round six. However,

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Speaker 2: I still think he'll be a good pro.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the difference was you weren't saying in January

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Speaker 4: doing was providing the same kind of perspective that I

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Speaker 4: The league has spoken, and the League has said that

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Speaker 4: Shadeur Sanders is the one hundred and forty fourth best

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Speaker 4: player in this draft. It is up to Shaduur Sanders

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Speaker 4: now to own that, to deal with that and to

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Speaker 4: you still have to live in the reality of this

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Speaker 4: is where he was picked, and in three years we'll

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Speaker 4: look back and say, you know what, the league was right.

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Speaker 3: He should have been picked there.

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Speaker 4: Tyler Shutt and Jackson Darr and Dylan Gabriel and Jaln

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Speaker 4: Milroe were better prospects than Shuder Sanders. Or we'll say, no,

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Speaker 4: they were wrong. The people who said Shoulder was good

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Speaker 4: and when people play, we'll have an opportunity to see

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Speaker 2: And some of the words I've seen associated with the

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Speaker 2: They call it a free full and embarrassment. And then

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Speaker 2: on social media people were going crazy. They call an

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Speaker 2: NFL collusion that teams got together because they just didn't

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Speaker 2: want to draft them because of his dad, because the

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Speaker 2: show the Hollywood is of him coming in, the Sanders

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Speaker 2: Show in that town. But here's the thing. I read

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Speaker 2: a couple of things about him. Obviously after the fact.

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Speaker 2: They said he ranked at number eight. He was a

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Speaker 2: good not a great prospect on the field, somewhere in

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Speaker 2: the Teddy Bridgewater to Geno Smith range, and Bridgewater was

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Speaker 2: the last pick in the first round of twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Smith went in around two. And then, as you just said,

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Speaker 2: the maturity and off the field concerns are another key point.

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Speaker 2: That's an uncertain variable, which is already complicated. Now. I

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Speaker 4: this is not being disparaging. Want to be scouts who

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Speaker 3: And playing the guessing game.

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Speaker 4: And last thing, since I'm on this, mock drafts are

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Speaker 4: A tool that scouts really use when they're really scouting players.

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Speaker 4: If you really want to scout players, you do evaluations,

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Speaker 4: It's a guessing game on what people are going to do.

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Speaker 2: I agree, That's why I don't do them. I know

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Speaker 4: They never really had a quarterback like that, not in

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Speaker 2: The only bad part of it is for Shadua is see,

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Speaker 4: now I have had direct access to any of my

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Speaker 4: And because a lot of times I don't have to

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Speaker 4: and more bravery to say asinine stuff to them. Well, ultimately, like, look,

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Speaker 4: the people who are miserable in their lives, who enjoy

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Speaker 4: on him and how he handles that. But yeah, the

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Speaker 2: I got a couple of questions for you, Because you're

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Speaker 2: the man, You're the answer man. We're gonna have asked

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Speaker 2: Bucky in about eight to nine minutes from now. But

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Speaker 2: I want to know how surprised you were that the

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers bypassed? Should do are saying this in the draft?

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Speaker 2: I mean because basically I thought, you know, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: go for a quarterback that got a couple of feelings.

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Speaker 2: It looks like Aaron Rodgers is going to be the

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Speaker 2: guy now going to the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Well, they talked about Aaron Rodgers being the guy, and

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Speaker 4: the owner had come out either shortly before the first

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Speaker 4: round or after day one and said they feel really

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Speaker 4: good about Aaron Rodgers getting closed to coming and so

499
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Speaker 4: they didn't want to waste anybody's time by taking them early.

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Speaker 4: Knowing they wouldn't be there'd be a log jam at

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Speaker 4: the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: So you do think that Aaron Rodgers is gonna be

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Speaker 2: playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers this year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think they're all in. I think

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Speaker 4: they're all in on Aaron Rodgers. They want to make

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Speaker 4: sure that. Look, he's gonna be the quarterback and so

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Speaker 4: they're gonna rock with him.

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Speaker 2: Good luck Mike, Tom and good luck for you. Now.

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Speaker 2: I said, there are a couple of teams looking for

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Speaker 2: the future right now, and I think one of them

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Speaker 2: with the Cleveland Browns, they were I think very wise

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Speaker 2: to trade their number two pick to the future. They

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Speaker 2: got a first round that from Jacksonville, you know about

514
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Speaker 2: that at number thirty six. This year they get edge

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Speaker 2: rusher Mason Graham from the University of Michigan, defensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: A little bit about this guy. He's a solid player,

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Speaker 2: but not a great player, but he's kind of a

518
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Speaker 2: disruptive guy. But he's going to help them on the

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Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: Building up their defense pretty good there, Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I think he's a really good player.

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Speaker 4: What he doesn't have is he doesn't have the pozazz

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Speaker 4: that makes people go crazy when it comes to blue

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Speaker 4: chip players. But when you watched him, he was clearly

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Speaker 4: the best defensive tackle. He's active, he's dominant, He consistently

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Speaker 4: destroyed opponents at the point of attack. And the Cleveland

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Speaker 4: Browns have an opportunity to take him. Put him alongside

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Speaker 4: Miles Garrett. They have one interior guy that's disruptive, another

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Speaker 4: guy that's out that's on the outside, and Garrett that

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Speaker 4: is disruptive. And that's the way the defenses are traditionally constructed.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we go over there, now, Jacksonville, that's

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Speaker 2: your team that picked up maybe maybe the best athlete

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Speaker 2: in the draft, Travis Hunter. How surprised were you because

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Speaker 2: you're with that club maybe probably new in the in

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Speaker 2: a circle that they're going to get him. But wide receiver,

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Speaker 2: defensive back? Where does he play? Where does this guy play?

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Speaker 1: Or both?

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Speaker 3: He does both. He does both.

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Speaker 4: He comes in as a wide receiver and contributes as

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Speaker 4: a part time defensive back, and then when he's ready,

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Speaker 4: he may go full time both ways. The big thing

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Speaker 4: about Travis Hunt is not only the dynamic playmaking ability,

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Speaker 4: as he brings as an offensive and a defensive player,

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Speaker 4: but more importantly, it's the spirit and energy that he

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Speaker 4: brings to the team. This team wants to change his

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Speaker 4: culture by bringing people. You hear them talking about intangibly

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Speaker 4: rit rich guys that love ball, and everyone says that, oh,

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Speaker 4: we're looking for guys that love ball, but like truly

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Speaker 4: guys that love ball. Ball is super important. They would

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Speaker 4: do anything and everything that play well. I think these

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Speaker 4: guys and Saw and Travis Hunter a guy that is

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Speaker 4: all ball all the time. He's gonna help them, not

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Speaker 4: only on the field, He's gonna have them off the field.

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Speaker 3: In terms of changing the coach in the locker.

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Speaker 2: Room right now? Is he a guy that's gonna come

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Speaker 2: in here and immediately take charge and get the job done?

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Speaker 2: Can he do that? Because this Jacksonville team right now,

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Speaker 2: as you know, down in the dumb so to speak.

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Speaker 2: And that's saying very nicely. I mean, can he help

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Speaker 2: turn this team around? I mean, look, comes from a

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Speaker 2: winning attitude, no doubt about that. But can he bring

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Speaker 2: that to this locker room and maybe this team turned

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Speaker 2: things around a little bit?

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Speaker 3: Yes he can.

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Speaker 4: Look, they need somebody with some juice and some star power,

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Speaker 4: but they also needed good players who embraced the work.

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Speaker 4: I would say maybe for so long Jacksonville, Hey, good players,

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Speaker 4: but maybe they didn't embrace the work. The work where

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Speaker 4: you have guys that want to do the work, want

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Speaker 4: to get better, as opposed to oh man, we have to.

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Speaker 4: He's one of those guys that wants to like whenever,

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Speaker 4: like there's hours and minutes left in the day, He's

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Speaker 4: gonna try and make himself better in anything, and so

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Speaker 4: I can appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's move along a couple of things I

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Speaker 2: wanted to mention with you on the first round. Let's

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Speaker 2: talk about the New York Football Giants. I mean their

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Speaker 2: general manager. I gotta believe Joe Shane. He's on the

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Speaker 2: hot seat. There's no doubt about that. What happened last year.

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Speaker 2: You know, Sakwon Barkley letting go. The ownership wanted mister

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Speaker 2: Marraw wanted them to keep him, but it didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: So he goes after quarterbacks. Right now, I guess Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 2: he's Jamis Winston and now I mean he he's panicking

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Speaker 2: because he gets Jackson Darr the quarterback as well from

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Speaker 2: Old Miss but he also got a good one in

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Speaker 2: Abdul Carter. Our shock that the Giants got Carter, but

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Speaker 2: to get a third quarterback? What does that do? What

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Speaker 2: does that mean? I mean, right now, the entire preseason

589
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Speaker 2: is going to be you know, who's going to be

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Speaker 2: leading in the quarterback derby. You got to get these

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Speaker 2: guys enough snaps to say who's going to be head

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Speaker 2: and shoulders above the other one? So in your mind,

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Speaker 2: who's the leading candidate. I gotta believe it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's gonna be the starting quarterback for the Giants

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Speaker 2: over Jamis Winston and obviously over the rookie Jackson Dark.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, that's what they said.

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Speaker 4: They said that he would be the starting quarterback heading

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Speaker 4: into the spring and into the summer. Russell Wilson is

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Speaker 4: that Jackson Dark can write his own story. Depending on

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Speaker 4: how quickly Jackson Dark adapts to the program, adapts to

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Speaker 4: and acclimates to the NFL game, that will determine when

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Speaker 4: he's ready to take the ball. Maybe it's this year,

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Speaker 4: maybe it's in the middle of the season, maybe it's

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Speaker 4: next season. Jackson Dark determines that, you know, like in

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Speaker 4: spite of being on the hot seat Brian dave Ball

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Speaker 4: and Joe Shane. They still have to do right by

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Speaker 4: the quarterback. They can't rush them too soon. They have

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Speaker 4: to operate with the short term and long term interest

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Speaker 4: of the football team in hand in mind. And you know,

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Speaker 4: a lot of it is, hey, we're don't give everybody

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Speaker 4: the opportunity to compete, and when he's ready, we'll know.

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Speaker 4: It'll be clear and apparent when the young quarterback is ready.

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Speaker 2: One guy, and speaking of quarterbacks, one guy who's a

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Speaker 2: quarterback who's basically jumping for joy right now is Jordan Loved,

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Speaker 2: the quarterback of the Green Bay Packers. And I had

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Speaker 2: no idea until I heard about this after the pick.

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Speaker 2: For the first time in more than a decade, the

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Speaker 2: Packer is at a first round wide receiver as a pick,

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Speaker 2: and obviously they need a playmaker on offense, and they

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Speaker 2: got him. I believe in Matthew Golden, the kid from Texas,

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Speaker 2: so they drafted him in the first round. Did you

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Speaker 2: know that they had never drafted a receiver on the

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Speaker 2: first round. I had no idea.

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Speaker 3: I did, haven't played there year. It was never really

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Speaker 3: a big part of it.

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Speaker 4: They haven't drafted a wide receiver in the first round

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Speaker 4: since two thousand and two Javon War and they've had

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Speaker 4: a lot of success without doing it, and some of

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Speaker 4: the success came from their organizational philosophy of development when

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Speaker 4: it came to wide receivers. They would take him into

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Speaker 4: second and third round. There was a kind of a

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Speaker 4: write of passage in terms of how they got onto

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Speaker 4: the field. They would come in as pump returners, maybe

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Speaker 4: played the wide receiver three or four. The next year

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Speaker 4: they would move up a role. The following year they

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Speaker 4: would move into the starting lineup. That's how it always

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Speaker 4: has operated in Green Bay. It's worked successfully. They felt

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Speaker 4: like Matthew Golden was special enough that they wanted to

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Speaker 4: take him in the first round. And for a team

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Speaker 4: that Josh Jacobs there leading rusher, said hey man, we

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Speaker 4: need a number one receiver. He certainly felt the impact

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Speaker 4: of not having that special guyn in a perimeter because

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Speaker 4: it was more crowded in the box. Well, now they

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Speaker 4: get a guy who is not necessarily a true number one,

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Speaker 4: but he's a bit of a hybrid number one, number

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Speaker 4: two guy, a speed receiver who can run routes. You

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Speaker 4: think about the other weapons they have Christian Watson. You

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Speaker 4: can read they have some guys that can can impact

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Speaker 4: the game, but they made it a very competitive environment

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Speaker 4: by bringing uh first round receiver into the mix.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, okay, uh. I read about the comments of Sean Payton,

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Speaker 2: the coach of the Denver Broncos, and he said, going

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Speaker 2: back to Shadua Sanders, he says, those teams that bypassed

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Speaker 2: you Doers are going to pay a price down the road.

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Speaker 2: Obviously he didn't draft him, but I'm thinking now the

656
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Speaker 2: fact that should do Or went so late one forty

657
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Speaker 2: four round five, is that And it's a stupid question,

658
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: but is that extra incentive for him to come out

659
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Speaker 2: there and maybe change his way forget about the glitz

660
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Speaker 2: and go out there and say, look, I'm gonna bust

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Speaker 2: some tail and I'm going to show everybody else that

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Speaker 2: they were wrong. Because I was surprised that that Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton came out and said that.

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Speaker 4: Well, he knows the kid, because Sean Payton has been around,

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Speaker 4: He's known Dian for a long time, he's known should

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Speaker 4: Door for a long time, watched him grow up in play,

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Speaker 4: so he knows who the kid is us and he

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Speaker 4: knows and is willing to go out and say, man,

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Speaker 4: I dig him, I like him. I am surprised, but

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Speaker 4: he had his quarterback, so he didn't need to go

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Speaker 4: and get a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And he might have been landed on.

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Speaker 4: Thick because he has a relationship with Deanna, and a

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Speaker 4: lot of these guys have relationships with Deanna, so it

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Speaker 4: can put you in a precarious position when it comes

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Speaker 4: to comment on his kid. But ultimately, Shamar has to

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Speaker 4: take what the league has said and he has to

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Speaker 4: process that. We can all think certain things about ourselves

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Speaker 4: in our situation in life, but when the league tells us, hey, man,

680
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 4: we see you as a fifth round pick, well, now

681
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Speaker 4: you have to own it and you have to use

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Speaker 4: it as motivation, and that motivation should inspire you to, hey,

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Speaker 4: let me make sure. Maybe I need to change some

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Speaker 4: of what I'm doing. I'm not saying change his personality,

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Speaker 4: but some of what he needs to do to make

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Speaker 4: sure that I'm locked in, and whether it's up in

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Speaker 4: my preparation when it comes to that, whether it's the

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Speaker 4: way that I treat people in the building and the

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Speaker 4: way that I interact with the coaches and the support staff,

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Speaker 4: all of that, if I'm sure doer.

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Speaker 3: I am taking all that in.

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00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 4: I am soliciting feedback, and I may go in and

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Speaker 4: ask him, Hey, coach man, what led y'all to wait

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Speaker 4: until the fifth round to take me?

695
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 7: Like?

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00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 4: What was it in my game or in my personality

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00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 4: that you didn't dig where you would take me early?

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00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 4: How can I improve? What do you need from me?

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00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 4: I would be very honest about, like, hey, please give

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00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: me direct feedback and take that feedback, that constructive criticism,

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Speaker 4: and make the necessary changes to give myself a chance

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Speaker 4: to not only make the team but eventually be a

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Speaker 4: starting quarterback. But the first thing that he has to

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Speaker 4: do before you can think about being a starter, you

705
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 4: got to do the things necessary to make the team.

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Speaker 3: And so he has to take it.

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Speaker 4: Step by step and kind of work up that ladder

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Speaker 4: to be the player that he ultimately wants to be

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Speaker 4: at the end.

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Speaker 2: Sounds great. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Firmerway on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. You know, we all

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Speaker 2: have questions, really, but there's only one man on God's

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Speaker 2: Green Earth that has only answers. His name is Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: And ask Bucky. Hey's next, Ask Bucky? Right around the corner.

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Speaker 2: That's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy fermerwee a Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 2: and Fox Sports Ready, and we're live from the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. And here we go, Bob, maybe eleven

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Speaker 2: minutes before the top of the hour. Let's get going

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Speaker 2: with asked, Bucky, are you ready?

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Speaker 9: Here?

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Speaker 3: We do?

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's look in the future. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: next year's NFL rookie of the year. Will it be

724
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Speaker 2: Ashton Genty, the running back now with the Raiders, or

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Speaker 2: the first pick of them all from Tennessee, the quarterback

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Speaker 2: out of Miami of Florida, cam Ward. Who's going to

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Speaker 2: be the rookie of the year. Well, maybe none, maybe

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Speaker 2: not either one of them.

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Speaker 4: I would bank on the quarterback having a chance, and

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Speaker 4: that's cam Ward. The only reason because it's a quarterback award.

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Speaker 4: We love quarterbacks. We love giving awards to all quarterbacks

732
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Speaker 4: because we feel like the quarterback is the most important

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Speaker 4: player on the team.

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Speaker 3: Give me cam Ward?

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Speaker 2: All right, we got that. Okay, Then, by the way,

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Speaker 2: how did you do when you were on a heat

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Speaker 2: to bring up the term mock draft?

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Speaker 4: I know I got the first six fix Reich, and

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Speaker 4: then after that there are some missus. I don't know

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Speaker 4: how many I got total of the mock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a guessing game. It doesn't mean anything. It

742
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Speaker 2: really doesn't. Let people go crazy on that stuff. Right,

743
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: let's move on, all right? The New York Mets. They're

744
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: the richest team in Major League Baseball. Sort of question

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00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: is why aren't they the best? If money good buy happiness?

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Speaker 4: Because it's like sports are the biggest chemistry experiment your team. Literally,

747
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: the pieces of the puzzle have to fit together talent wise,

748
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 4: but then the chemistry and the continuity to believe has

749
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Speaker 4: to be on point. And right now, maybe it's not

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Speaker 4: on point, but the chemistry really really matters.

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Speaker 2: All right. How important is it for the Los Angeles Lakers,

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00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: and in particular Lebron James to win the NBA title

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00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 2: this season?

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Speaker 4: I don't think they to win the title this season,

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00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 4: but it would be a big feather in his cap.

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Speaker 3: Look, Lebron James legacy is submitted.

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00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 4: I know we have these arguments about easy to go

758
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 4: against Michael Jordan and those things, but look, here go

759
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 4: as an all time great. The big thing for the

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Speaker 4: Lakers is are they going to be able to do

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00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 4: it as underdogs? They just don't have enough height to

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Speaker 4: contend with some of the other teams in the Western Conference.

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Speaker 2: All right, and speaking of the NBA Playoffs, your biggest

764
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: surprise thus far in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Biggest surprise the level of physicality that we're seeing in

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00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 4: these games. These games have gone back to nineties NBA

767
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 4: basketball where everything is contested.

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Speaker 3: It's very feisty. We have fights almost breaking out.

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Speaker 4: I love it. I love it. I love the way

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Speaker 4: that it is. I love how contentious it is. To me,

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Speaker 4: the playoffs should be this, So I dig it.

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Speaker 2: Especially that Nick's Pistons series, it's almost ugly. Really is

773
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Speaker 2: like a prize fight.

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Speaker 4: Orlando Boston, yea, Orlando Boston's been like that. After the game,

775
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 4: we saw Houston and Olden State have some words.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I dig it.

777
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: There we go the Jacksonville Jaguars. You know about that team,

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00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: They said is the court they used? They said they're

779
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: gonna go fluid, fluid on Travis Hunter. What does that mean? Fluid?

780
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: You don't have a really big plan for how you're

782
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: going to use them.

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00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 4: You want to bring him in, you want to see

784
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 4: what he feels like, what he looks like, how comfortable

785
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 4: he is on each side of the ball, and then

786
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Speaker 4: you formulate a game plan that works.

787
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Speaker 3: But it's not just coaches making that is.

788
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Speaker 4: The strengthen and distance staff using the charting, the stuff

789
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: to distance, the GPS and those things. And then nutrition

790
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 4: make sure he's fed right to be able to fuel

791
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Speaker 4: his body to play. So there are a lot of

792
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Speaker 4: factors involved. So that's why it has to remain fluid.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it wasn't really a quarterback heavy draft this year

794
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: in the National Football League, but one of the things

795
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Speaker 2: that kind of stuck out, at least in my mind,

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00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: on the Atlanta Falcons and the Arizona Cardinals went heavy

797
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: on defense, defensive line, with the Cardinals the number one

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00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: pick the Walton Nolan from Old Miss, and the Falcons

799
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Speaker 2: the first two picks were edge guys Jelen Walker from

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Speaker 2: What Georgia and the kid from Tennessee James Pierce Junior.

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00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: First two picks in Atlanta. So got edge guys. So

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00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: defense really, and that's strange I think in a draft

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Speaker 2: for the first two picks on one team the first

804
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: pick from another.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think you do

806
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: what you need to do to feel a need.

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Speaker 4: And so you talk about Atlanta opting to go the

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00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 4: way that they did with a linebacker and d n

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Speaker 4: they needed those spots.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the main.

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Speaker 4: Thing is to take good places, you take players, your

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00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: team has an opportunity to improve.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's about it for ask Bucky, you have

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Speaker 2: any questions for me? Probably not. I mean I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have the answer.

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Speaker 3: Anyway. We were talking about your Bengals on the other side.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious what they saw.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea what they did in That's right,

819
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: that's your team. I know, I know we'll get into that. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we'll do that. We certainly will. He's Bucky Brooks, I

821
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Speaker 2: mean de Ferman and by the way, who got what

822
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Speaker 2: they needed? Bucky Brooks had that and more. When next

823
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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Sunday right here, all right, making some

824
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Speaker 2: sense in all of it, that's coming right up. Good morning.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Were

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Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. He's Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 2: had anything firm and I to tell you what, I'll

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Speaker 2: be honest with you. I'm glad it's over. I mean

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Speaker 2: what happened, I mean, it was like an eight hour

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Speaker 2: marathon yesterday. I mean for guys you never heard of.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, because I cannot believe that

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Speaker 2: every personnel guy in every team knew every player that

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Speaker 2: was drafted yesterday from round five, six and seven. I

834
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Speaker 2: can't believe there were names that I'm sure they never

835
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Speaker 2: heard of.

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Speaker 4: Really, no, that's not I mean, you know, if everybody

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Speaker 4: doesn't mean that those guys are on your board. I

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00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: think I can't remember how many total people were taking

839
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Speaker 4: in the draft of let's.

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Speaker 2: Say two fifty seven. I think something long.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so two fifty seven almost boards, And if you're

842
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 4: doing it the right way, you should have about anywhere

843
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 4: from one hundred tow one hundred and fifty players on

844
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Speaker 4: your board. And those one hundred and I even think

845
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: one fifty is a lot of those players. They should

846
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 4: be just the players that you want to draft. So

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00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 4: if I don't like the kid from Cincinnati, I don't

848
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 4: like the kid from Notre Dame, I don't want them

849
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Speaker 4: on the board because it only it is clutter, you know,

850
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 4: And so you're trying to declutter the board so you

851
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 4: can lock in and focus on the players that are

852
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: the perfect fits for your team.

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00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: So yeah, you may know about.

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00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 4: Those players, but those players drafted and some of those

855
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: rounds just aren't deemed to be good fits for you,

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00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 4: and so you move on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So to have a board, So the board it

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00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: looks like this, positions and under the position name, Like

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00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: on the quarterback, they'll have five or six quarterbacks. On

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00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: the linebackers of eight, nine, ten linebackers, and as those

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Speaker 2: sky linebackers are picked, they cross them off and they

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00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: move them up on their list and each individual team's

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00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 2: boards how it works.

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00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: So to give you a visual, So there are two

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Speaker 4: boards that you want to look at. So there's a

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Speaker 4: board we'll just use a simple round number. On the left,

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Speaker 4: we'll put a vertical board where we rank the players

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Speaker 4: from one to one hundred regardless of position. This is

869
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Speaker 4: how I like them, regardless of Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter,

870
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: asking Gent whoever, Tyler Warren, whatever, from one to one hundred.

871
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: We have them ranked there.

872
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: Then when you go to the right, we have another

873
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 4: board which is called the horizontal board that is by position.

874
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: So we start with quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end,

875
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: offensive tackle, guards, center, then we go to defensive end

876
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 4: or whatever. All the way through all the positions, and

877
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 4: as you're looking up under all of those individual positions,

878
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 4: you have like little blocks. You have first round, second round,

879
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 4: third round, fourth round, fifth round, sixth round, seventh round,

880
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 4: and within every block you have the players in that position.

881
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: They grade out as first round picks.

882
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: So it may be two or three in the first round,

883
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 4: five to eight in the second round, three or four

884
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 4: in the third round, based on what the grades are.

885
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 4: And what you're doing is as you're looking at the

886
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: positions and you're looking at the vertical as they come off,

887
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 4: you remove players in both of those things, and what happens.

888
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 4: The reason you have the board is it gives you

889
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: a visual picture of Okay, we have this offensive tackle

890
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: ranked higher than this cornerback.

891
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 3: Man.

892
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 4: We don't have a need for it, but this guy's

893
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 4: a much better player than this player right here. We

894
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 4: should take that player because he's a better player.

895
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: Even though it's not a need.

896
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 4: It makes our team better because he's good. And so

897
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 4: that's how it works. And so it's this not juggling act,

898
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: but this checks and balances that you have to make

899
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: sure that you're not reaching for players to fill a

900
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 4: position of need when you know that their talent doesn't

901
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: match up to where we're about to take them.

902
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 3: The talent has to match the value. Okay.

903
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: So there's several questions here that I have because you

904
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: on the inside, you work for a team, You played

905
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: the game, okay, number one, you talk about rating the players.

906
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: That's where I think the internal arguments begin, because I'm

907
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: thinking of the Dallas Cowboys and all of a sudden,

908
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: you're writing player A and you're giving him a tremendous grade.

909
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, Jerry Jones comes in there,

910
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: who's never maybe scouted one game at all this year

911
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: on the college level, and he says, I don't want

912
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: this guy, although although the scouts and personnel guys have

913
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: gone out to the college games on weekends to see

914
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: these guys play, and Jerry Jones says, no, I don't

915
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: like him. I want this guy that's number one, number.

916
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: Two, that should never happen. Okay.

917
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 4: So when we're in this process and we decide like, hey,

918
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: here's our philosophy, this is what we do. We trust

919
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: the process. We're used the philadelph seventy six Z thing.

920
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 4: Trust the process, stick to the plan. Once you make

921
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 4: the plan, you stick to the plan. The plan is

922
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 4: in concrete, this is what we believe in. We're not

923
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 4: deviating from the plan. So when we start about the

924
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 4: process of creating a grading skill, how we grade players,

925
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 4: having a ranking system, how we rank players, creating the boards,

926
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 4: and how guys sit on the boards. We don't make

927
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 4: decisions by the seat of our pants.

928
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 3: We look at the board and we just follow the process.

929
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 4: And if we follow the process, the process would never

930
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 4: lead us wrong. When we start doing those things that

931
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 4: you talk about, that's when we mess up.

932
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: Okay, The next problem that I have with another situation,

933
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: not a problem, is that there's three opportunities here. During

934
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: the draft. You could draft the best player, you could

935
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: draft for a need.

936
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: You could draft as.

937
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: Far as developments concerned. You know he's not going to

938
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: play immediately, but you hope he'll develop it to a

939
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: great player. Those are the three things. And I say

940
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: that right now because you mentioned my Cincinnati Bengals on

941
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: going to mention the number seventeen pickover all in round one,

942
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: they drafted Shamar Stewart, a defensive infantexis A and M

943
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: and this guy didn't have much production on the college level.

944
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: Three years of Texas A and M one and a

945
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: half sacks in each of the three years. So and

946
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: obviously Al Golden has a lot of cloud right now

947
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: is the new defensive coordinator because he drafted him right now,

948
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: but he has a lot of confidence in this guy,

949
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: lots riding on him. Was that a good pick a

950
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: bad pick?

951
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: With you?

952
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: You know what's going on because I'm gonna get to

953
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 2: your picks momentarily because you had a list.

954
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: You did your picks, all right, So let's go back first.

955
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 3: You what you talked about.

956
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 4: You talked about talent need and what was the other thing?

957
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 4: Because you said you develop development? Okay, So I understand

958
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 4: that that when you're grading the grading. Okay, So when

959
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 4: I say someone's a first round pick, right, I say, hey,

960
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give this guy a first rounder. What I'm

961
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 4: saying by giving that grade, I'm saying this guy is

962
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 4: a day one starter. He comes in, he starts for us.

963
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 4: That's why we're taking him in the first round. When

964
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying someone is a developmental pick, I have him

965
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 4: graded as a fifth round pick because that lets us

966
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 4: know it is going to take him more time before

967
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 4: he can be that player. So the lower the grade

968
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: the more time is needed for this guy to maximize

969
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 4: his potential, or it signals the amount of limitations he

970
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 4: has and he has a limited ceiling.

971
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: So that's where the grades match up.

972
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: So if you're grading players right during your evaluations, you

973
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 4: don't have to make those decisions based on oh, he's

974
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 4: a developmental player. This he's that when we get to

975
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 4: the rounds.

976
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: Day three. Day three is the developmental player around.

977
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 4: We know that all of these players have some deficiencies

978
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 4: in those things, but they have redeeming qualities that we're

979
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 4: hoping we can tap into that will allow them to

980
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: develop into being productive players. That's what Day three is about.

981
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 4: Day two, second and third round. These are guys that

982
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: are starters. They may not be starters in day one,

983
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: but we're hopeful that they will start by the end

984
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 4: of their first year, by the end of their second

985
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 4: year at the latest.

986
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 3: Round one.

987
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 4: They need to be impact players, ready to start early

988
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 4: and top ten of round one. Oh, they need to

989
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: be blue chip players that we're talking about being top

990
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: two or three in their position quickly in their career.

991
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 2: Okay, so go back to the Cinnati Bangs Round one.

992
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: It was not a top ten players number seventeen, Shamar Stewart,

993
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: and my thought process was, and maybe on way off

994
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: base is the reason they drafted him twofold. Number one,

995
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: they needed a defensive end, they needed someone on that

996
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: side of the football. Number two, they probably drafted him

997
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: because they don't know what's going to happen to Trey Hendrickson.

998
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 2: They may be getting rid of him and they're be

999
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: trading him. So that's why they got this guy, Smar Stewart,

1000
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,959
Speaker 2: who basically does not have a lot of production under

1001
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: his belt coming in here. Boom. That's my thought process.

1002
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 4: Okay, so your thought is this, So let's okay, let's

1003
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 4: take it as this.

1004
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 3: First, let's talk about the player, Shamar Stewart.

1005
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 4: Shamar Stewart one of the best athletes that we saw

1006
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 4: at the COMBIN and that athleticism shows up on tape, big, fast, physical,

1007
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 4: has a lot of tools and that you would like

1008
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 4: to think that you can develop into being an elite player.

1009
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 4: The production, Yes, he had four and a half sacks

1010
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 4: during his time in college. However, he had a lot

1011
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 4: of pressures meaning he got close but no cigar. He's

1012
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 4: right in the face of the quarterback, but didn't get

1013
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 4: him down. So now as the evaluator, you work with

1014
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 4: the coaching step say, hey, man, he has all these tools,

1015
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: he's really closely doesn't get it done.

1016
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 3: Coaches, do we think we can get him to that next.

1017
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 4: Level by showing him how to finish plays, showing him

1018
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 4: a couple of techniques that will unlock something that he

1019
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 4: hasn't shown to this point. So the talent and tools

1020
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 4: are there. Now you're like, there's a little upside or whatever.

1021
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 4: What you're referring to with the Cincinnati being was Trey

1022
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: Hendrickson is there, but Sam Hubbard retired in the offseason.

1023
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 4: When you're looking at your ross and you're saying, man,

1024
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 4: we have a hole because they feel like they can

1025
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 4: get Trey Henderson.

1026
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 3: And Trey Henderson is gonna come. He's not going anywhere, right,

1027
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: He's on the contract. Yeah, Yeah, he's in the contract,

1028
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 3: so he's gonna be there.

1029
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 4: So like he can huff and puff and all that,

1030
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 4: like he's there, but we need somebody for Sam Hubbard.

1031
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 4: So there's a natural position we're looking at the board.

1032
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 4: This guy lines up because of his talent and tools. Yes,

1033
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 4: we can slot him right into Sam Hubbard's spot. And

1034
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 4: even though he's not quite ready to be the number

1035
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 4: one pass rusher.

1036
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 3: We still got Trey Henderson.

1037
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 4: Maybe in a year or two, Stewart can either take

1038
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 4: over Trey Henderson's roll or they can compliment each other.

1039
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: We have two good pass rushers.

1040
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 2: Look, I don't know what kind of a pass rusher

1041
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: he's going to be. I hope he's a great player.

1042
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: But I will say this much. I saw when he

1043
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,959
Speaker 2: got picked. He had tears in his eyes. He looks

1044
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 2: like a tremendous individual, a good guy, one of the

1045
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 2: real good guys who were real thankful that he's there.

1046
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: And he's like, he's blessed that he's going to be

1047
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 2: in the National Football League. And he was so excited

1048
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: he was crying when he got picked. And I love that.

1049
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he thanked the Lord above that he got

1050
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: picked and he's going to play in the National Football League,

1051
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: which guess was a dream of his. So I'm happy

1052
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: for him, and I hope it works out. That's all

1053
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But I was a little shocked that this

1054
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: guy did not have a lot of production on the

1055
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: res belt and that's why they took him. But you know,

1056
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: he fills in need, and I hope he feels the

1057
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 2: need well, because I think he's probably a real good guy.

1058
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man.

1059
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 4: Now, now here's the thing that gets lost in all

1060
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 4: of the conversation about the draft, and it's an unfortant

1061
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 4: fortunate part of the draft. Draft weekend is the realization

1062
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 4: of a lot of dreams. There are a lot of

1063
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 4: people who had dreams of playing in the National Football League.

1064
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 4: And whether you're the first pick or the tunesand and

1065
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 4: fifty seventh pick, man, when you hear your name called,

1066
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 4: when your name comes across the screen, it is a

1067
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 4: blessing to be a part of the fraternity that is

1068
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: the National Football League. And some of that gets lost

1069
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 4: by what we've talked about the cottage industry, guys like

1070
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 4: myself evaluating picks, providing analysts saying this is a good

1071
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 4: pick or bad pick, putting a grade on it.

1072
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: Oh, you get an A, you get an F, this

1073
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 3: is whatever.

1074
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 4: But we always need to remember for a bunch of

1075
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: young people and their families, man, this is a highlight

1076
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 4: of their life to this point, and we should always

1077
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 4: celebrate that no matter what, and we can't let that

1078
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: get lost and entertaining the public with our bombastic opinions

1079
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 4: on how things fit and all of this, we still

1080
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: need to remain sensitive of what this is for so

1081
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 4: many people, which is a dream come true.

1082
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: No doubt about how was it when you got drafted?

1083
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: What was that like?

1084
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 4: I would say that it was a dream come true,

1085
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 4: but it was very stressful, and I wish that I

1086
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 4: could tell people like I was a forty eighth overall

1087
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 4: pick in the nineteen ninety four draft. When I look back,

1088
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 4: that's a tremendous accomplishment to go that high. But I

1089
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 4: can tell you the weekend of it was a lot

1090
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 4: of stress because to hear forty seven names before you, man,

1091
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 4: it just seems like you're on a roller coaster ride

1092
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 4: because you're looking around and you're speculating that, Okay, this

1093
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 4: could be the pick. Oh no, no, this could be the pick,

1094
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 4: and this when I could go when oh am I

1095
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 4: going in the first round. I saw in the mock

1096
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 4: drafts that maybe I'm gonna be a first round pick,

1097
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 4: and so you get your hopes up and then someone

1098
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 4: else goes and you're deeply disappointed. I was the eleventh

1099
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 4: wide receiver taken in my draft class, and I can

1100
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 4: tell you those guys that went ahead of me, and

1101
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 4: I can tell you the teams that I thought I

1102
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 4: was going to go to. And the disappointment sometimes can

1103
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 4: overshadow the excitement when you finally get picked, and it's

1104
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 4: not like what should do or experience. But everybody talked

1105
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 4: about you during this and that. But when he finally

1106
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 4: got the call, did you see the relief on his face?

1107
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 4: Did you see the smile on his face because of

1108
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 4: the dream coming true? That's what happens no matter when

1109
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 4: you're picked. The disappointment is disappointment. But man, there's nothing

1110
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 4: like knowing I'm going to have an opportunity to play

1111
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 4: the game. I love a dream come true, and so

1112
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 4: it's similar to that. So, yeah, it was stressful. It's

1113
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 4: nerve wracking. It's a combination of disappointment of the things

1114
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 4: that didn't happen, but a celebration of the things that

1115
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 4: did happen.

1116
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 3: Is your gateway into the.

1117
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: League, no doubt about that. But you said you were

1118
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: the eleventh wide receiver pick. You got to believe in

1119
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: your heart of hearts during that time. At the day

1120
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 2: of the draft, you're saying to people, maybe your agent,

1121
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 2: whatever it may be, family friends, I'm better than those guys,

1122
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: I'm better than that guy, why they.

1123
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: Pick him over me?

1124
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, there's a lot of that, and you know it, man,

1125
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 4: the league can warp your sensibilities because I believe most

1126
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 4: people should really focus on themselves in life. Right Like

1127
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 4: in yoga, we always talk about staling your own Matt,

1128
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 4: worry about yourself. Don't compare yourself to others because you

1129
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: don't know others' plights or their past. But if you

1130
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 4: focus on you and being the best version of yourself,

1131
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 4: you're going to be successful. But what the draft does,

1132
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 4: and what the league can do is you're constantly comparing

1133
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 4: yourself to others, and in that comparison, sometimes you will.

1134
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: Knock down another.

1135
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 4: Player to make yourself feel better, like not maybe verbally,

1136
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 4: but in your mind, I'm better than him, like I'm

1137
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 4: And so you have these things, and you know, like

1138
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 4: we see these fake interviews where you may have, like

1139
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 4: like John Gruden an interview a quarterback and a quarterback

1140
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 4: and sell himself and you'll say, oh, the best quarterback

1141
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 4: in the draft, Da da da da da, all this

1142
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 4: other stuff. So it can make you get out of character. Now,

1143
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 4: the thing about it is what some people like in

1144
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 4: a person other people hate. So if I tell you Andy, Andy,

1145
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 4: I'm the best analyst you could ever have on your

1146
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 4: radio show, what you may be like, Weck, that's great.

1147
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 4: I love that you have that confidence. Somebody else may

1148
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 4: be like, man, that's kind of arrogant for you to

1149
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 4: say that you're the best.

1150
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 3: Like there are all these other guys that do it.

1151
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 3: So beauty's in the eye the beholder.

1152
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 4: That's why this process, in analyzing it and talking about it,

1153
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 4: you just don't know because they're thirty two different teams

1154
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 4: with thirty two different decision makers and opinions on how

1155
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 4: our prospect should act, perform and all that, which is

1156
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 4: why it can be a very stressful time for the

1157
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 4: prospects because some guys are trying to act and be

1158
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 4: what they want, what they think others want, as opposed

1159
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 4: to just being themselves.

1160
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 2: You know why you're saying that, I thought process came

1161
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 2: in my mind. I just got to ask you, is

1162
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 2: it possible. I'm sure it has been in the past

1163
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: that an agent can have several clients that play the

1164
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: same position, so he had played one against the other.

1165
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, like everybody like, I mean, you go

1166
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 4: and get the best players that you can get. And

1167
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 4: in fact, there's some guys that prefer to deal with

1168
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 4: one position. The late great Gary Wishard, who didn't represent me,

1169
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: but I worked with I would I would train some

1170
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 4: of his guys later in terms of interviews and those things.

1171
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 3: He was a guy who only like to h.

1172
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 4: Represent past rushers because pass rushers got paid.

1173
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 3: And he knew that, and he.

1174
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: Would have like a guy like Kaleis Campbell and maybe

1175
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 4: Jason Taylor and the Terrell Suggs and all that, and

1176
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 4: he had all of them, but he knew what it

1177
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 4: took to get those guys ready to get paid.

1178
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 3: And yeah, you can not necessarily leverage one against the other,

1179
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 3: and you have to kind of know where they are.

1180
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 4: But look, man, I think a good agent, a good leader,

1181
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 4: just gives direct feedback.

1182
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 3: And he could say, hey.

1183
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: Andy, look man, you're the number one radio personality. Bucket

1184
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 4: right now ranks his number three, and Bucky may have

1185
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 4: his feelings hurt by being the third best one, but hey,

1186
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 4: this is what the league is telling me.

1187
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: And so based on what.

1188
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 4: You're at, Andy, you're going to be in this range

1189
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 4: when it comes to the money.

1190
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: Bucky your third.

1191
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 4: Here's what you're looking at that's what they do, and

1192
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 4: that's how you leverage it, and that's how you play it.

1193
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 4: And being in Cincinnati, you may notice Jamar Chase and

1194
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 4: T Higgins eventually got the same representation and so what

1195
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 4: that might have done. It might have helped T Higgins

1196
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 4: get his deal done because as he's talking the agent

1197
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 4: is talking to Chase, he also knows, hey, they're gonna

1198
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 4: pay Chase this.

1199
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: Well, then you got to pay T Higgins that.

1200
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 4: And that is an effective strategy that worked for some,

1201
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 4: so it can work for you.

1202
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 3: I don't think it ever works against you, you know.

1203
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: And I think the T Higgins Jamar Chase situation was

1204
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: like obviously Jamar was publicly saying I want Tea on

1205
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: this team. So they hooked up and they kind of

1206
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: discussed that. And now I go back, history does repeat

1207
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 2: itself because I remember as a kid, Don Drysdale and

1208
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: Sandy Colfax had the same agent. They both basically sat out.

1209
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: They both left the dodge and they got what they wanted.

1210
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: You know, back in the day it wasn't millions, but

1211
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: they got what they wanted and they both left. You know,

1212
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: I think power does come in numbers, and you know,

1213
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: basically they had they forced the Bengals end. They had

1214
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: to I mean and they and they signed them. I

1215
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: want to go back to the Bengals second pick if

1216
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: I can with you, because again they went on the

1217
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: defensive start of the Well, they need defensive help. I mean,

1218
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: it's an offensive ball club that has defensive holes. That's

1219
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: what it is. Number forty nine, Round two, Demetrius. This

1220
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: guy was a junior. Well he's a linebacker and he

1221
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: went to South Carolina. But the problem is, yeah, six

1222
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: year college player. When he played Georgia Tech and the

1223
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: South Carolina played Charlotte, It played all over the place.

1224
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: So what's the deal with this guy? And obviously they

1225
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: need him, but give me a little bit of a background.

1226
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 4: This guy old school player. Man, he's an old school thumper.

1227
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 4: He is a guy that could have played in the eighties.

1228
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: The way that he performs physical loves contact, always around

1229
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 4: the mix.

1230
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 3: I mean, he can kind of get after it.

1231
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 4: And you know it's funny, like you're sitting here talking about, oh,

1232
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 4: he's a six year player, what does that mean?

1233
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 3: Chyler Shep was a seven year player.

1234
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: I mean, so like experience.

1235
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 4: Matters and played a ton of games bounced around and

1236
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 4: all that, but like just a really good player. And

1237
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 4: I think at the end of the day, we all

1238
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 4: want good players. We all want guys that can be

1239
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 4: productive and can come in and find a way to

1240
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 4: make an impact right away.

1241
00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 3: He's a guy to it. I think can be.

1242
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 4: Very impactful in his play and the way that he

1243
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 4: comes in and performs.

1244
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna ask you this. I mean, are we

1245
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: going to see anything as far as Cincinnati Bengal fans

1246
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: are concerned. I don't want to stick too much time

1247
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: on Cincinnati because there's a lot more to talk about.

1248
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: But Al Golden is coming in. Will he change a

1249
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 2: lot of things on the defensive side of the ball

1250
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: as our other defensive coach? And since I did, who's

1251
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: not with the Colts?

1252
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 9: Uh?

1253
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think he'll change some things. He'll

1254
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 3: come in and change things, He'll get done playing his way.

1255
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 4: I'm a believer that his experience as a college coach

1256
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 4: is going to help him with the younger players as

1257
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 4: this team. Because this team has to make a decision

1258
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 4: right So when they decided to pay T Higgins and

1259
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow, the money's on offense, so

1260
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 4: the way that you build a team when the money's

1261
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 4: on offense, that means, hey, I can be the pass rusher.

1262
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 4: I can pay Trey Henderson and maybe another pass rusher.

1263
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 4: But then the rest of my players, they're going to

1264
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 4: need to be draft and develop guys that we get

1265
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 4: on the cheap, young cheap talent. Well, to get young

1266
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 4: cheap talent play well, you got to put them in

1267
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 4: a defense or a system that allows him to quickly

1268
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 4: adjust to the pro game and to play fast. Al

1269
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 4: Goldin's experience that Notre Dame should help him figure out

1270
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 4: a way to get the young guys up to speed,

1271
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 4: build a defensive play that allows those young guys to

1272
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 4: play and be impactful right away.

1273
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: And he knows the Bengals organization because he had worked

1274
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: with them prior to Notre Dame. So he came back,

1275
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: so he knows something. And I think this switch from

1276
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: college to the pros can be a big jump. But

1277
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: the fact that he's been to the pros and went

1278
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: to college now back again, I think it's going to

1279
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: really help.

1280
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: It really is.

1281
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: But louis anamoo. I mean, I just I thought Lou

1282
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: did a good job as a defensive coordinator. I mean,

1283
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 2: he didn't have the horses. That's the problem. We'll see

1284
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: what he does in Indianapolis, because I hope he does well.

1285
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: I really do. He got gobbled up pretty quickly when

1286
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: he got let go by Cincinnati. Didn't take long for

1287
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: him to get a job.

1288
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 4: Not at all, because he was a good player, and

1289
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 4: some felt like he was escapegoated a bit, yeah by

1290
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 4: that stuff. But hey, look, man, guys get hired to

1291
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 4: get fired and you don't see some of that stuff

1292
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 4: is you know, I would say it's unfortunate, but look,

1293
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 4: it happens.

1294
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: That's what we'll do. Okay, we're gonna move on. I

1295
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: didn't even get to what you've done. You've do so

1296
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Speaker 2: much work on this. I'm gonna do that on the

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Speaker 2: other side. But we'll get to that. He's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: Get him on Twitter, get him on ex or if

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Speaker 2: you want to call it at Bucket Brooks at Athy

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Speaker 2: Furman FSL, we'll read him. We'll retweet them for you.

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Speaker 2: Or you could give us a call and your favorite team.

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Speaker 2: Chris Bucket has all the answers at eight seven, seven

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Speaker 2: ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six

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Speaker 2: sixty three sixty nine this hour, yay or nay? The

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Speaker 2: blame game and No. One number three. Now the question

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Speaker 2: is why did one NFL team pass on a wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: We'll explain that next. All right, look who got snub

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you in just about a minute. He's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andy Fermerway on Fox Sports Sunday. On Fox Sports. There,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. And again, remember be sure to

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Speaker 2: check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. There's a

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Speaker 2: rolling along right now, We've got yea or nay in

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Speaker 2: about ten minutes from now. But let's talk about those

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Speaker 2: cowboys as Dallas cal But how about those Cowboys twelve pick,

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Speaker 2: and they said they wanted the best player on the board.

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Speaker 2: So what do they do? They picked the guard Tyler

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Speaker 2: Booker from Alabama. Here's the deal. Though they looked at

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Speaker 2: the quarterback that Prescott tearing his hamstring. I guess in

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Speaker 2: Week nine against the Atlanta Falcons said that ain't gonna

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Speaker 2: happen again. We're gonna bolster up that offensive line. I

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01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 2: think they did basically what the Philadelphias have done. They

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Speaker 2: built them built up through the trenches and big guys

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Speaker 2: in the trenches. So they get the guy from Alabama,

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Speaker 2: all American guard, Tyler Booker, good, better and different. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, but I think the problem is that maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm way off face here, but the big question right

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Speaker 2: now is not Booker. The question is they need receivers.

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Speaker 2: They need help a receiver, they need help a running back.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why they didn't do that. They need

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Speaker 2: speed it receiver and they didn't do that. They went

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Speaker 2: for the offensive line. What was your thought process on

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Speaker 2: that draft pick?

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Speaker 4: Well, my thought process is you got to build your

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Speaker 4: team to win your division. And the only way the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys are gonna win the division is you got to

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Speaker 4: deal with the trench play of the Philadelphia Eagles. When

1347
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Speaker 4: you look at the Philadelphia Eagles, they are dominating people

1348
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Speaker 4: at the point of attack on the offense and defense

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Speaker 4: on the front lines. The Cowboys needed to be able

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Speaker 4: to counter and the gate a Jaylen card or disruption

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Speaker 4: at the point of attack. They need to be able

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01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 4: to run the ball and control the clock and do

1353
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Speaker 4: the things they need to do to protect Dak Prescott

1354
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 4: because when they've been a top running team, Dak Prescott

1355
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 4: has always played at his best and to me, they

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Speaker 4: are at their best when their offensive line. Their offensive

1357
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 4: line is one of the best in the business. And

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Speaker 4: with Tyler Booker coming on board, it gives them an

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Speaker 4: opportunity to have a young offensive line.

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Speaker 3: That grows together, but grows together as one of the

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Speaker 3: dominant units in the football.

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Speaker 1: How do you like that?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you do agree that the Cowboys do need

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Speaker 2: some speed on the offensive side of the world receiver

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Speaker 2: and they need a running back though they do.

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Speaker 4: But if we're building a house man the wide receiver,

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Speaker 4: that's like the shutters. I mean, it's not the most

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Speaker 4: important part. I mean, it's like the paint and stuff

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Speaker 4: like that, Like This's at the end of it.

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Speaker 3: The foundation is the offensive.

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Speaker 4: And defensive lines, and so they need to make sure

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Speaker 4: that the house sits on steady ground and stable ground.

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Speaker 4: And so the offensive line that helped them. They can

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Speaker 4: always find the receiver, man. They have a million receivers

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Speaker 4: on the planet. They'll find one that can fuel the

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Speaker 4: role opposite CD lamp.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because as much as things change,

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01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 2: they stay the same. What do I mean by that?

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Speaker 2: You mentioned what the Eagles have done. They built up

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Speaker 2: the interior line. The Cowboys are trying to copy that

1381
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 2: as a copycat league. But way back in nineteen sixty eight,

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01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 2: the late Paul Brown, he always said it's what's up

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01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,439
Speaker 2: front that counts. He said that in his book which

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01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 2: I read. And the first ever pick in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 2: eight when the Bengals were formed was an offensive center,

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Speaker 2: Bob Johnson. The first pick ever on that ball club,

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Speaker 2: lineman Bob Johnson.

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Speaker 3: It's the most important part. Man.

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Speaker 4: If you have an offensive line, you can figure out

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Speaker 4: a way to deal with the other stuff. But if

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Speaker 4: you don't have an offensive line that can dominate it

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Speaker 4: like it's hard. And they have an offensive line that

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Speaker 4: is really dominant. They can really mash. They got young guys.

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Speaker 4: And when you hear Booker talk about man, my goal

1395
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 4: is to make you question your love for the game

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Speaker 4: at the end by leaning on you and beating you

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Speaker 4: up over sixty minutes, right man, those that's a tone setter.

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Speaker 4: That that changes the tenor of the locker room where

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Speaker 4: you have people like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I ask you this. When a guy comes

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Speaker 2: in there saying things like that, veterans do when they

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01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: looking at that, they just like wink and they just say,

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Speaker 2: oh my goodness. Here comes to another one. He'll he'll

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01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 2: soon find out what it's like here. Is it like

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01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 2: that or can he really change things? Well, you just

1406
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: need to go in your corner, shake your mouth and

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Speaker 2: do your job.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's something too.

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Speaker 4: Hey man, let's just go about our business, spion being quiet,

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01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 4: Let's be workmen, like, let's get in. Let's earn earn,

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01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 4: earn our way, particularly when you're young as a rookie, like, hey,

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Speaker 4: I need to uh more work.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk.

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01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 4: So let's see if you can come in here and

1415
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 4: do that stuff and then show us what you're about

1416
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 4: as opposed to telling us.

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Speaker 2: And I would think there are some youngsters and some

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Speaker 2: rookies that come in when you were a veteran, now

1419
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: later in your career, they come in, there's someone intimidated

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Speaker 2: and starstrunk when they see these guys. These are the

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01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: same guys they grew up maybe seeing on TV, watching

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Speaker 2: these guys play, and now they're having a locker shared

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Speaker 2: with these guys.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's always that. I mean when I walked

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01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 4: into the locker room in Buffalo and you have Jim

1426
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 4: Kelly on one side, but then my locker mates were

1427
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 4: Andre Reid and Thurman Thomas. So I sat in between

1428
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 4: two Hall of famers. You know, you're thinking about Bruce

1429
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 4: Smith being in the far corner of that locker room.

1430
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Speaker 3: These are guys that.

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01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 4: You know, we're playing video games with just a weekend

1432
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 4: before coming to join them in Mini Caamp, Like, these

1433
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 4: are my guys, and so here you go.

1434
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Speaker 3: You go from.

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01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 4: You know, these guys being your idols and icons to

1436
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 4: being your peers.

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Speaker 3: It can be a weird dynamic to see. When I

1438
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 3: went to.

1439
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 4: Kansas City, I loved Marcus Allam When I was a kid.

1440
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 4: I can't tell you how many times that I would

1441
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 4: try and take a ball and reverse and come all

1442
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,879
Speaker 4: the way backfield like he did against the Washington football

1443
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 4: team and that Super Bowl, and then to see him

1444
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 4: every day and to play with him.

1445
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also real.

1446
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 4: And so there are a lot of young players that

1447
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 4: kind of go through that moment and then in time

1448
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 4: it fades. But yeah, initially that Ricky Minichamp with that

1449
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 4: first mini camp with the veterans in Yeah, the guys

1450
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 4: Starstruck and Big Id and all that other stuff.

1451
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm gonna do a little bit of a

1452
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: preview of YA and A which we have coming up

1453
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes. But you did a lot

1454
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: of work and I didn't want it to go unnoticed

1455
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: when you did on NFL dot com. It's kind of

1456
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: like doing a turn paper, I mean, and it wasn't

1457
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 2: done overnight because this is a compilation of that you've

1458
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 2: done throughout the entire season. You put it all together.

1459
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 2: What basically did you try to prove when you did this?

1460
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you took the draft picks at least in

1461
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: round one, and you wrote about each one, not the

1462
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 2: fact that you picked them, that you said they were

1463
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 2: going to be picked, a disposition. You kind of analyze

1464
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 2: them good, bitter and different for that team making that pick.

1465
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: Is that correct?

1466
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 3: Oh?

1467
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 4: So what they did is after first round they took

1468
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:42,520
Speaker 4: all of my analysis.

1469
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 3: So I was on NFL dot Com.

1470
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Speaker 4: I was on our live Draft Tracker show, and what

1471
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Speaker 4: the EDITORI your team did is they took my comments

1472
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 4: at the end of every selection and they made it

1473
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 4: into like a written form.

1474
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 3: So I'm assuming that's what you're talking about.

1475
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And I'd like to go over some of them,

1476
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,440
Speaker 2: at least the first maybe tenant people do that. Obviously

1477
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 2: we got number one. The first pick was Tennessee. The

1478
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans pick cam Ward. And your comments about each

1479
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: one of these picks, I'd love to hear from you,

1480
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: because you're the man. You are the expert kim Ward.

1481
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 4: Tennessee with cam Ward, Like, look, my thing with cam

1482
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 4: Ward and why he was their pick. The tools, the talent,

1483
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 4: the tenacity. They've been struggling at the position for a

1484
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 4: long time, and he gives them something that they haven't

1485
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 4: had since Steve McNair. In fact, when you squint and

1486
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 4: close your eyes, you can see Steve McNair's game in

1487
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 4: cam Ward. Physical, rugged game, big time arm talent can

1488
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 4: make all those plays when you're the Titans and you're

1489
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 4: really about playing a rugged brand of ball, Well, you need.

1490
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 3: A quarterback that embraces that that cam Ward does.

1491
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 2: I would say this, I think the quarterback position, certainly

1492
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: you have to have the skill set on the field,

1493
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 2: but you have to carry yourself as a leader. And

1494
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 2: I'm not knocking Sho Door Sanders, and I hope he

1495
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 2: does well, and I hope he proves everybody wrong. I'd

1496
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: love to see him make him make it big in

1497
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 2: the National Football League. But cam Ward had that presence.

1498
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 2: He was there with his parents, He was respectful. He

1499
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 2: just looked like a leader. He looked like the guy

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Speaker 2: that would come in respect in the huddle where Shadoor

1501
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 2: came out there. I don't think I could lift the

1502
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 2: thing he wore around his neck. I don't think it

1503
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: must have been fifteen pounds of diamonds. Really, I don't

1504
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 2: think I could have lifted. He's wearing it around his neck.

1505
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 2: He had the legend sign behind him. I just don't

1506
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: think it came off good for him. That was the

1507
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 2: problem that superseded his play on the field. I thought

1508
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: that's what hurt him.

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01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 4: So here's what I was saying, here's perception and reality. Right,

1510
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 4: So you talk about Shadir Sanders and his chain, I

1511
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 4: think if you go and you pull up an image

1512
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 4: of what Jackson Dart had on either his press conference

1513
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 4: in New York or whatever Jackson Dart had on diamonds,

1514
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 4: he had a diamond chain on like it.

1515
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 3: It's different, but it was.

1516
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 4: Almost like the equivalent of a Diamonds tenns bracelet around

1517
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 4: his neck, diamonds everywhere, all kinds of fancy designer.

1518
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 3: Stuff he wore.

1519
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 4: It's just that Shadure was outward and blatant with it.

1520
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 4: But the perception is he's flamboyant and showy or whatever.

1521
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 4: So he gets that from a perception standpoint, whereas Jackson

1522
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 4: Dart it flies under the radar. But he also had

1523
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 4: the same thing. I think my god, Will Campbell also

1524
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,799
Speaker 4: has some flash and stuff and a chain or whatever.

1525
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 4: So a lot of times we tag some of these

1526
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 4: perceptions with the slight images without knowing that with others

1527
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 4: we ignore it and don't give it the same kind

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01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 4: of attention.

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01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: No, because his last name was Sanders, and I think

1530
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 2: they saw and shouldure what they see in Papa, you know,

1531
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: and who basically was. But the point is that Papa

1532
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 2: could do it and did it because he proved himself

1533
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 2: on the field should do I had not done it yet.

1534
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 2: That's the difference.

1535
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think I think the difference is like,

1536
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 4: and people will say, like, whether he proved it or not,

1537
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 4: I would say like, based on his college collegiate success,

1538
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 4: he wore improved that he could play when you look

1539
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 4: at the numbers that he rank up at Jackson State

1540
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 4: and Colorado, he certainly approves. He shouted all the passing

1541
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 4: records at Colorado on his way out like he had that.

1542
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 4: He hasn't done it as a pro. But yeah, so

1543
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 4: there is some some of that residue from Prime is

1544
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 4: on his kid and some of the perceptions and things

1545
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 4: that we have on Dion we've assigned to.

1546
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 3: His kid, fair or not. That's that's kind of part

1547
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 3: of it.

1548
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 4: But he also has to be aware of that and

1549
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 4: not that he has to change, but he just has

1550
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 4: to have enough awareness to understand how people will perceive

1551
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 4: him based on being coach Prime's son.

1552
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 2: Right, And what I didn't like is the fact that

1553
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 2: again the negativity people just so ugly, they really are,

1554
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 2: and they were just the comments they were making, and

1555
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 2: one of the comments that kind of stuck with me,

1556
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: and I don't even know why I'm repeating it because

1557
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 2: it was ugly. He said, hey, next time, don't be

1558
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 2: retiring jerseys. So soon you know he did it.

1559
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 4: Is it is so funny to me that so many

1560
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 4: people are outraged by the retirement stuff, Like is it

1561
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 4: is crazy to me that so many people who are

1562
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 4: not attached to the university are outraged by the retirement.

1563
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 4: I am someone who has had my jersey retired by

1564
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 4: my high school and yeah, it happened twenty plus years late.

1565
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 4: But let's just say this Andy, Like, and I know

1566
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 4: people like to wait or whatever until people die to

1567
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 4: give them their flowers.

1568
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 3: I would prefer to have my flowers while I'm living.

1569
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 4: I would prefer to be able to go and say, oh,

1570
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 4: you know what, man, my jersey's retired, Like, hey, thank

1571
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 4: you for a job well done.

1572
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 3: What is wrong with that?

1573
01:14:55,400 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 4: I don't understand why there's so much outrage over the

1574
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 4: jersey thing. But that also played into how people perceived him, like, oh,

1575
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 4: you got his jersey retired already, Like, look, he's one

1576
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 4: of the best players to ever play there, like it

1577
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 4: or not.

1578
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 3: And people normally recognize the best players to ever be

1579
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 3: a part of their program.

1580
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: Did he leave the country completion percentage like seventy one

1581
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 2: something like.

1582
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 4: That all time or career completion percentages the all time

1583
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 4: is that are all time high? Like it's yeah, I

1584
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 4: mean in the country. Like that's what I'm saying, like

1585
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 4: that stuff. And so when he talks about it, like

1586
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 4: whether you like it or not, that he says legendary,

1587
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 4: Like you can't say that he's not based on his

1588
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 4: success as a collegian. So that's the thing, is like, look,

1589
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 4: you don't have to like it, but you can at

1590
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 4: least acknowledge, like, look, he had a very good career.

1591
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 4: Like his jersey being retired is one thing.

1592
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 3: There are a lot of jerseys that are retired. But

1593
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 3: the outrage from the fact that he got his jersey

1594
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 3: retired to me is crazy.

1595
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: You know, you bring up an unbelievable point because I

1596
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 2: go down many cities and see streets named after people,

1597
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 2: but they're usually named after them after they die. And

1598
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 2: I think people need to if you, if you've accomplished

1599
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 2: something and you're going to name the street after somebody,

1600
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 2: do it, whether there are lives that they can see

1601
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: it and appreciate it. And in Cincinnati they named Pete

1602
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 2: Rose Way Pete Rose Way while he was still living,

1603
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: and there was a big outrage when he got busted

1604
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 2: with the gambling situations. They take the sign down. No,

1605
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: they didn't take it down, but I see signs all

1606
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 2: the time on street corners after people died. Now I'm

1607
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 2: I'm fighting with city hall in Cincinnati right now to

1608
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 2: name a street called Oscar Robertson Way. The big O

1609
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 2: is still living. I love Oscar and that they haven't

1610
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 2: done it, and I want to see Oscar roberts There's

1611
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 2: a there's a trophy, there's a statue at the University

1612
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati of him there. But they need to have

1613
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 2: a street and the Cincinnati named Oscar Robertson Way. And

1614
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm finding a standstill here. They're not getting it done,

1615
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 2: and they need to. But I promise you, and I

1616
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 2: hate to say it, once he passes on name the street.

1617
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 2: Let him enjoy it while he's alive.

1618
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 4: They'll wait until he passes, and in his honor, we

1619
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 4: want to name this right.

1620
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: It's weird, it really is.

1621
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 2: She's stupid. He's Bucky Brooks. I may de firm we

1622
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 2: have Fox Sports Sunday a Fox Sports Radio thumbs up,

1623
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 2: what thumbs down? It's yeah your nay and you know what,

1624
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 2: it's freaking next Sorry, yeah your na time right here

1625
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Ferman

1626
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 2: about nine minutes before the top of the hour, and

1627
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 2: we're lying from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1628
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 3: Yay r nay.

1629
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: Let's get it done. Patrick is back.

1630
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 2: I'm bady ah Man. Let's go.

1631
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 6: Hey, it's you know, it's time for yeay or nay.

1632
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 6: And you know what I'm with the ya's right now, yay.

1633
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 5: I'm back. Well, let's start us off hot with this one. Guys.

1634
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 6: So going on Shador Sanders shd Dore. Does he make

1635
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 6: it in the NFL as a starting QB for the

1636
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 6: Browns yay or nay?

1637
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 2: Andy Furman, of course yeah, because he's going against Joe Flacco,

1638
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 2: who's taking social security right now. So he's going to

1639
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,520
Speaker 2: make it in the NFL.

1640
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you will make it. I just think he will

1641
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 3: get the opportunities to write off his for him. He'll

1642
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 3: make it, all right.

1643
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 6: Love love it there, guys, love it there. We're going

1644
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 6: next here, We'll go fast. Lakers, Los Angeles Lakers. Do

1645
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,799
Speaker 6: they make it to the NBA Finals? Yay, ornay, Bucky Brooks.

1646
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, no, they don't make it.

1647
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 4: I don't even know if they make it outside of

1648
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 4: the first round. The Timberwolves are the better team, more younger,

1649
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 4: more athletic, and hunger.

1650
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Lakers don't make it.

1651
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be positive. I'm gonna say, yay, but not

1652
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 2: this year. How's that. There's a tricky answer, right, don't

1653
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 2: make it to the finals. But they won't make it

1654
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: this year? But ya all right?

1655
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 5: Well, I dig it as a Laker fan. I dig it.

1656
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 6: After drafting Abdul Guard to the Giants draft QB Jackson Dart,

1657
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 6: yay r nay.

1658
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 5: Andy.

1659
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'll say, yay. I mean they need

1660
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 2: to stuck up on quarterbacks that got rustled with Wilson.

1661
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: Obviously he's gonna be the quarterback right now, but it's

1662
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 2: always good to have a quarterback because you don't win

1663
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 2: in this league without a quarterback. I think it was

1664
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 2: a good move.

1665
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: Good move.

1666
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 3: Yay, yeah, no, look, it'll be a good move.

1667
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 4: I think thing with Jackson Dart is just making sure

1668
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,759
Speaker 4: you put him in the offense. And the system that works.

1669
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 4: They see him as a version of Josh Allen, so

1670
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 4: it should work for.

1671
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 6: Them, all right, love that Mark.

1672
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 5: Here's one for you, guys.

1673
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 6: MVP pick of the Draft Raiders at number six, Ashton

1674
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 6: Genty from Boise State. Raiders average eighty plus rushing yards

1675
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 6: game last season.

1676
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 5: Now they get genty yay or nay? Bucky Brooks yay,

1677
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 5: great pig man.

1678
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 3: Every time Pete Carroll has been able to do it,

1679
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 3: he's done it with a big time back. This is

1680
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 3: his version of Marshaun Lynch.

1681
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 2: It's a yay because why Pete Carroll wants to win now.

1682
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 2: He's not building for the future. He was hired to

1683
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 2: win now because of his age. Right, he's seventy plus

1684
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: years old. He's gonna win now. And I'll tell you

1685
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 2: what's a shame because that pick was such a great pick.

1686
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 2: But the problem with Shader Sanders he's taking up well

1687
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,560
Speaker 2: the storylines, that's what he's done. But we've got so

1688
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 2: much more coming up next right here on Fox Stay

1689
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1721
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: I think Arizona did well in the dress. So I

1722
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 2: like to put a check mark next to the Arizona Cardinals.

1723
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Arizona Cardinals did have a solid overall draft.

1724
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 3: And one of the things that you like about him.

1725
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 4: Is, I mean you may notice when you look down

1726
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 4: the list, they took a bunch of big ten guys

1727
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 4: right outside of their first round pick and Walton Nolan,

1728
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 4: they just doubled down on a bunch of big ten

1729
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 4: guys being focal points and guys that can kind of

1730
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 4: anchor the franchise.

1731
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 3: So when I look at.

1732
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 4: Will Johnson being a part of it, then you talked

1733
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 4: about Simon from Ohio State coming in and anchoring that

1734
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 4: linebacker spot. What it suggests to me is they wanted

1735
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 4: big school guys that came from big programs, winning programs,

1736
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 4: because as they're changing the culture in the locker room,

1737
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 4: it requires you to bring in guys you understand and

1738
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 4: appreciate winning, but also understand what is necessary and what

1739
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 4: is needed to win, meaning the kind of work that

1740
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 4: you have to put in to be a championship caliber team.

1741
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 2: And that brings up an interesting question because I always

1742
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 2: like to pick your brand because you have all the answers.

1743
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 2: If you have the board as you mentioned early on today,

1744
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 2: and you have talent that is somewhat equal equal talent,

1745
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 2: equal age, whatever, going to be hight weight, whatever it

1746
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 2: may be. And one goes to a school like a

1747
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 2: Boise State perhaps or a Memphis and the other one

1748
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 2: goes to a Big ten school in Ohio State or

1749
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 2: a Michigan. Would you lead to the biggest school because

1750
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 2: to the competition they play.

1751
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a big school fan. I want to see

1752
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 4: the best played against the best. That's not saying that

1753
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 4: you can't come from the smallest school and have success.

1754
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 4: But if we're talking about all things equal talent and

1755
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 4: those things, I'm gonna lean to is the big school

1756
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 4: guy because i'mna have a feeling that I've seen him

1757
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 4: play against better competition consistently. I'm more comfortable thinking that

1758
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 4: his game is going to translate to the pros more

1759
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 4: so than the smallest school guys game.

1760
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 2: All right, another check mark for a draft. Gonna look

1761
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 2: at the Carolina Panthers because everybody was saying that Bryce

1762
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 2: Young is too small, he's too short, So what do

1763
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 2: they do. They can't stretch him out. But tedor Road McMillan,

1764
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: who's about six four to sixty five, is a target

1765
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 2: right now. That's gonna help. I think that's a big deal.

1766
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 2: I put the check next to that because I got

1767
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 2: a big target for Bryce Young right now.

1768
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, t mac is really going to help Bryce Young.

1769
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 4: What I love that Dave Canalis is doing. He's basically

1770
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 4: trying to recreate the offense that he had in Tampa

1771
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 4: for Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield and undersized quarterback, much like

1772
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 4: Bryce Young succeeded when he had those big bodies on

1773
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 4: the perimeter, Mike Evan and Chris Godwin, respectively. Well, now

1774
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 4: you have t Mac on one side, you have Xavier

1775
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 4: look at on another, Adam Thielen, and the slot you've

1776
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 4: gotten bigger and better, and they gives you a chance

1777
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 4: to expand the strike zone for the quarterbacks so he

1778
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 4: can throw.

1779
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 2: Okay, what about the Cleveland Browns. They didn't have to

1780
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 2: leave the Buckeye State to get draft picks. Okay, Mason Graham,

1781
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 2: all right, they got him, well, Michigan obviously, Ohio state

1782
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: running back quin Shawn Jenkins, Okay, they got him from

1783
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: Columbus right down the street, Bowling Green. They got a

1784
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 2: kid that got the tight end and he's from Ohio

1785
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:40,759
Speaker 2: as well. Harrold foundin jr. So basically in an area

1786
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 2: of maybe one hundred plus miles, they got three top

1787
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:44,799
Speaker 2: picks right there.

1788
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 3: Well, One, you know that they're built to play in

1789
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 3: cold weather.

1790
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 4: Two, you know they understand the history and tradition of

1791
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 4: the Browns because they had to be around it.

1792
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 3: They may not be Browns.

1793
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 4: Fans, but they're certainly aware of the tradition of the Browns.

1794
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 4: And they've gotten guys that could come in immediately and

1795
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 4: make contributions. Quenchine Jenkins. You think about Fanning Junior, who

1796
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 4: reminds me a lot of Antonio Gates in terms of

1797
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 4: his style.

1798
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 3: It just kind of.

1799
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 4: Unorthodox, but just creates consistent separation. Fanning gives me those vibes.

1800
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 4: And if they can get a quarterback situation resolved where

1801
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 4: they're solid that quarterback and they have some playmakers, could

1802
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:22,759
Speaker 4: be interesting.

1803
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 3: It's spot to watch.

1804
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 2: This is unbelievable, okay, because we have a draft this

1805
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:31,520
Speaker 2: year that basically did not have any real big headliners,

1806
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 2: and the one headliner that maybe would have been in

1807
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 2: the draft wasn't drafted until the fifth round, one hundred

1808
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: and forty fourth pick. That's your doors, Sanders. And the

1809
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,440
Speaker 2: shame of it all is that he got only accolades.

1810
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 2: That's all everybody talked about. And I think it's a

1811
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 2: shame for a guy like cam Ward, who was the

1812
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 2: number one pick and he went to the Tennessee Titans

1813
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 2: out of the University of Miami quarterback. No one talked

1814
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 2: about him. So there was an unbelievable story in the

1815
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 2: New York Times about him, and I wanted to share

1816
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:01,839
Speaker 2: some of the highlights about this. I had no idea

1817
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 2: and cam Ward right now, I'm sure you knew this.

1818
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,959
Speaker 2: They said he couldn't throw enough, they said he was overweight.

1819
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 2: And more than that, he said that he was a star,

1820
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 2: a zero star recruit. He wasn't even recruited. As a

1821
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 2: matter of fact, he said that nobody wanted him. When

1822
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 2: he was in high school, he wanted to play basketball.

1823
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 2: That's basically what his sport was. But he played football

1824
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: since the fourth grade. His mom, patrese urged his son.

1825
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: He urged him to reconsider to play football again. She

1826
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 2: encouraged him to attend the first day of practice and

1827
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: then decide if you're going to play football or not.

1828
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 2: And then he went back to the second practice. He

1829
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 2: said he had to finish the season. And then he

1830
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 2: said to his mom, I don't have any regrets by

1831
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 2: doing this. I like it. And the morning after the

1832
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: first practice, he woke up told his mom to drive

1833
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 2: him to the field again. It's unbelievable, he said. When

1834
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 2: this kid is committed to something, there's no shortcuts. So

1835
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 2: that's a great a great trade. And I think he

1836
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 2: still has that trade. But the story of his life,

1837
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 2: of his football career, nobody wanted him in college I

1838
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: mean this kid, really, they had a scrap and scrape

1839
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 2: for I had no idea all the way. He didn't

1840
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 2: want to play, didn't want to No one want them.

1841
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:06,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1842
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 4: So I don't know if you know this, but cam

1843
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 4: Ward and shuder Sand has worked out together.

1844
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 3: Excuse me, how so I can talk.

1845
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 4: Cam Ward and shuder Sand has worked out together in Dallas.

1846
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 4: They're always together. The videos of them together and what

1847
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 4: you have are polar opposites in terms of paddigree. You

1848
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 4: have the zero star recruit and cam Ward, who, as

1849
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 4: the young people say, they had to get it out

1850
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 4: the mud.

1851
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 3: He had to scratch and.

1852
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 4: Claw for everything that he got to go from a

1853
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 4: zero star recruit to incarnate word, to Washington State to Miami. Meanwhile,

1854
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 4: you have Sojure, who is a four slash five star

1855
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 4: recruit who comes from like a privileged life in terms

1856
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 4: of his dad was a Hall of Fame player all

1857
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 4: of that stuff. He goes to Jackson State following his dad,

1858
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 4: and then he goes to Colorado. When they were together

1859
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 4: and people would see them working and there was the

1860
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 4: two alp was in the thing. But cam Ward did

1861
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 4: not mind challenging Shadure verbally in terms of questioning how

1862
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 4: much he loved the game, and those things and those

1863
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:14,799
Speaker 4: videos might have impacted the way that people perceive cam Ward,

1864
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 4: not just in terms of the talent, but in terms

1865
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 4: of the tenacity that comes with him as a part

1866
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 4: of his leadership skill, his leadership style.

1867
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 3: He's a very.

1868
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,560
Speaker 4: Impressive person, very impressive leader. And when you talk to

1869
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 4: people around the program, they swear by his leadership ability

1870
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 4: down in Miami.

1871
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 2: And he's a loyal kid too. But I had First

1872
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 2: of all, he went to the school incarnate word. I

1873
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 2: never heard of the school in Texas. That was the

1874
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 2: only school that gave him a break that was in

1875
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: the football Championship Subdivision program. That's where he went to

1876
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 2: and is coach Eric Morris, he coached Baker Mayfield. This

1877
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 2: guy coach Patrick Mahomes of Texas Tech.

1878
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,560
Speaker 4: And that's how you get like cam Ward. Yeah, and

1879
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 4: that's how he got to Washington State. He followed the

1880
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator to Washington State. And so that's how he

1881
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 4: got his big opportunity and break. And then that final

1882
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 4: year when he decided he was gonna go pro or whatever,

1883
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 4: he got an evaluation back that suggested and advised him

1884
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 4: to go back because he wasn't going to be a

1885
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 4: top pick. He goes to Miami and puts on for

1886
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 4: the city and now he's sitting there in a perfect

1887
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 4: position in the first runner.

1888
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Washington State, I don't think he opened up

1889
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 2: many eyes because the team was seven and six back

1890
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two and they lost a couple of

1891
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 2: close games to Oregon in Utah and then they were

1892
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: he played Southern calin Washington was closed. But I don't

1893
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 2: think a lot of people were saying this guy's going

1894
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 2: to be a number one pick. But he had, but he.

1895
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 3: Had obviously they weren't.

1896
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, they weren't saying that last year before going to Miami,

1897
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 4: and right, that's why it's gonna be interesting because there

1898
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 4: pedigree does matter, and to be a zero star recruit.

1899
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 4: Now some would say he was zero star recruit because

1900
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 4: of the offense that he ran in high school wasn't seen,

1901
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 4: kind of grew up in a a different area where

1902
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 4: maybe you couldn't get you couldn't get a lot of

1903
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 4: eyeballs on them. But to go from a zero star

1904
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 4: recruit to a number one overall pick is uncommon. So

1905
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 4: the curiosity for me is what does that talent look

1906
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 4: like as a franchise quarterback in the league that's expected

1907
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 4: to take your team to higher heights.

1908
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 2: And you have always told me, and I've always listened

1909
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 2: to this. You know, talent is great, Talent is everything

1910
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 2: to an extent, but it's the program that you're in

1911
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 2: and the system that they run. All right, He's going

1912
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 2: to Tennessee. What kind of system do they have to

1913
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 2: make cam Ward be successful? Too many people are saying, well,

1914
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 2: we got cam Ward, now we will be successful. No,

1915
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 2: he's got to fit into a system that conjive with

1916
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 2: his skill set that makes him successful.

1917
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I don't know how much. I

1918
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 4: don't know if they have enough talent for him to

1919
01:30:55,960 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 4: be successful. Right now, they have Cavin Ridley, who be

1920
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 4: the number one. They just signed Tyler Lockett. I think

1921
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 4: they Advan Jefferson coming on board. They have Tony Pollet

1922
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 4: in the backfield. That's not a lot of star power

1923
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 4: on the perimeter. You know, take Calvin really away. You

1924
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 4: probably can command a double team, but everybody else is.

1925
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 3: Just solid at that.

1926
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's enough to elevate him to

1927
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 4: the next level. You can scheme up a lot of things.

1928
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 4: But if it's not, I don't know, can consistently like

1929
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 4: executed or done at a high level.

1930
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 3: What does it mean?

1931
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 2: You know, it's a funny situation because if you look

1932
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 2: at the National Football League and the teams that are

1933
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 2: on the outside looking in and that not make the playoffs,

1934
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 2: they need quarterbacks. They need quarterback help. And obviously it

1935
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 2: may very well be the most important position in all

1936
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 2: of sports, all of sports. However, you know there's so

1937
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 2: much pressure on that position as to when a team

1938
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 2: gets a quarterback and say, okay, we're going to win

1939
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 2: now because we have this player. It doesn't work that way.

1940
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 2: He has to have the parts. It's one of the

1941
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 2: few sports really and truly that it's almost like a

1942
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 2: chain link fence. Everybody has to do their part. You

1943
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 2: look at the offensive line. You know, if one guy

1944
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 2: faulters on that line, the line suffers. It really does.

1945
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 2: And that's why football is such a beautiful sport because

1946
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 2: it is a sport dependent upon everybody else on that team.

1947
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 2: Where basketball, you know, one guy could almost lead a team.

1948
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 2: It's only five guys playing. One guy could really carry

1949
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 2: the team on his back. And we've seen that we

1950
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 2: really have baseball, get a couple of good pitchers, you

1951
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 2: can get it done. In football, you need the unit.

1952
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 2: That's what you need. And I don't know if cam

1953
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 2: Ward has the unit. And certainly, you know, people in

1954
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 2: Tendessee right now, they're raving this ad. We're going to

1955
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 2: win now because we have him, you know, put the

1956
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 2: brakes on a little bit. You need players around the quarterback,

1957
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 2: no matter how good he may very well be.

1958
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, So there are three things around the quarterback that

1959
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 4: you must have. We we call him the three piece

1960
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:02,600
Speaker 4: play caller, playmakers, pass protectors.

1961
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Speaker 3: Play call it.

1962
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 4: Brian Callahan's been around Joe Burrow, so I'm confident he

1963
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 4: can build an offense that works for him.

1964
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Speaker 3: Playmakers I listed it out for you. I don't know.

1965
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 4: I don't know how many high end playmakers they have

1966
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 4: around them. And then pass protectors. They're working on the

1967
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 4: offensive line, trying to fix that offensive line. But the

1968
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 4: offensive line can be a little leaky. So it might

1969
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 4: be ugly for cam.

1970
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Speaker 3: Ward early.

1971
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Speaker 2: On this jersey this year.

1972
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it may be ugly early before he settles in

1973
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 4: later and becomes the player that we expect him to become.

1974
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 2: Okay, but do you know as well, as I do that.

1975
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 2: After the draft is over, they go back to the

1976
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 2: board and say, you know, we kind of missed on this.

1977
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 2: We still need this, so you go after players now

1978
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 2: in free agency that could really help to plug some holes.

1979
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, you do, but most of the players that were

1980
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 4: good already off the board.

1981
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 3: You know, T Higgins isn't on the board anymore.

1982
01:33:55,680 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 4: So where're you gonna get your guys? They're trying find

1983
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 4: some veteran players that are there. But you remember they

1984
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 4: signed Tyler Lockett in right on the eve of the draft,

1985
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 4: So where are they.

1986
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 3: Go and find some other playmakers to put around them.

1987
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because I still think that the biggest

1988
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 2: name in the draft is not cam Ward, although he's

1989
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 2: the number one pick and obviously he's a quarterback and

1990
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 2: there was a need for quarterback. I think the biggest

1991
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 2: name in the draft right now is Ashton Genty, the

1992
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 2: number six pick went to the Raiders running back out

1993
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 2: of Boise State. You know, the question is going to adapt.

1994
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't play against great talent at Boise State,

1995
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 2: but I watched him run. He's very He's like a bull.

1996
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 2: He's like a bulldozer. That's what he is. I think

1997
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 2: he'll be very successful, especially on a team that only

1998
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 2: averaged eighty yards rushing a game. I mean, I think

1999
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 2: that may be the best pick in the draft, and

2000
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,719
Speaker 2: again went under the radar thanks to Shade or Sanders.

2001
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 2: That's what everybody talked about.

2002
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 4: That is what everybody talked about. But as in Jitsu,

2003
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,719
Speaker 4: will get his chain. A lot of people like him.

2004
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 4: He's physical, he is a talented runner who has, you know,

2005
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 4: like that two thousand yard potential when you look at

2006
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 4: everything that he brings to the table. They have to

2007
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,599
Speaker 4: make sure they have the offensive line right to give

2008
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 4: him a chance to dominate. But I mean, he's an

2009
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 4: intriguing player. He's a big time prospect. I should be

2010
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 4: fun to watch him work in the league.

2011
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 2: You know, I have to apologize because I think I'm

2012
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 2: making you lose your voice today, and I really hate that.

2013
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 2: I really do.

2014
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 3: No, You're not doing that.

2015
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 4: I feel like when we have our next break, I

2016
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 4: just need to have a big cough and hook up

2017
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 4: a loogie so I can get this out.

2018
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing so right now I'm playing with it.

2019
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 4: I just need to when we go to a commercial break,

2020
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 4: I need to put the microphone down and when I

2021
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 4: come back, I can guarantee you it be much different.

2022
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 2: That's because I tell you what it would be cheating

2023
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 2: people to hear your knowledge on the game of football,

2024
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 2: especially on this weekend. For the way I mean that,

2025
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 2: because you know it's for is not concerned. I just

2026
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 2: love asking you a question, picking your mind because you've

2027
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 2: been there, done that, you know the game, you played

2028
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 2: the game, and you take us behind the curtain, like

2029
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 2: you know, you talked about the day you were drafted.

2030
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 2: You talked about being in the locker room and awe,

2031
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:13,599
Speaker 2: you know the big names that you came in there.

2032
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 2: You see the next of these plays. Those are great stories. Actually,

2033
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 2: you should probably write a book. You really should. You know,

2034
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 2: if you write a book, I'd be more than happy

2035
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 2: to write the forward for you. I really would.

2036
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if I need to write a book.

2037
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 3: That's a lot, well you can.

2038
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 2: I mean the stuff that you write for NFL dot

2039
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 2: com and put that together, that could be a book.

2040
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 2: And I do want to go back to that list

2041
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 2: because again, the work that you put into this should

2042
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 2: not go undone and not unnoticed because it's a lot

2043
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 2: of work, and I think you deserve at least mentioned,

2044
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 2: and I'm going to try to get to as many

2045
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 2: as we can. We only got to one. I think

2046
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 2: we only got.

2047
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 3: To Tennis war one got the first pick.

2048
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 2: But there was a lot to talk about with can

2049
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 2: One because I think his story needed to be told.

2050
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Al so there was zero to one. That's what he was.

2051
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 2: Nobody wanted him and I always a number one pick.

2052
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 2: But let's go to but two. And that was your team,

2053
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. How are they celebrating on Jacksonville. I

2054
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 2: mean they must have had a parade down Broadway there

2055
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 2: because they got Travis Hunter, who basically is probably the

2056
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:12,640
Speaker 2: best athlete in the draft right now, and he's going

2057
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 2: to play both ways. So I'm happy because there were

2058
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 2: some teams that probably weren't going to play him both ways.

2059
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 2: Ron Glynn who probably played both ways in Jacksonville as

2060
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:22,480
Speaker 2: a receiver in a corner.

2061
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 4: Well, the reason why he was important is because of

2062
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 4: who he is, not necessarily what he does. What he

2063
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 4: does is valuable, like a two way standout, a guy

2064
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:36,839
Speaker 4: who is unrivaled in terms of his athleticism and playmaking ability.

2065
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 3: But the reason why he's important that Jacksonville is.

2066
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:43,480
Speaker 4: He is a guy who loves ball, who loves competition,

2067
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:48,639
Speaker 4: who loves being the best at anything and everything that

2068
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 4: he does.

2069
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 3: Their stories and you can look this up. When he

2070
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 3: went on.

2071
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 4: The visit like a day ago after he was picked,

2072
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 4: he wanted to work out with the team. He didn't

2073
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 4: want to leave, and they were like, dude, you can't

2074
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 4: work out, Like you can't work out with U shit,

2075
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 4: Like it's against.

2076
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 3: The league rules. Like that's how all in he is.

2077
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 4: And gentle manager James Gladstone said this. He was like,

2078
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 4: if you want to change the culture, you bring in

2079
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 4: the people who do it just.

2080
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 3: By being themselves.

2081
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 4: So and if we want to create a tough, hardworking environment,

2082
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 4: well you just go get tough, hardworking people and the

2083
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 4: environment changes. And so Jacksonville wants a team where they

2084
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 4: have a bunch of guys that love ball, that ball

2085
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:40,520
Speaker 4: is important, They love competition. You put the ball down anytime, anywhere,

2086
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:42,600
Speaker 4: any place, they're ready for it.

2087
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 3: And Travis Hunter is one of those guys.

2088
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 4: But they also took some other guys behind him that

2089
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 4: exhibited those qualities, went to the Senior Bowl and participated

2090
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:55,799
Speaker 4: and did those things. But Travis is the charrio atop

2091
01:38:55,840 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 4: the Sunday to help them kind of the change that

2092
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 4: needed to happen for this team to go to the

2093
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 4: next level.

2094
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 2: You know, you you're the guy that concerns yourself on

2095
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 2: the field between the White Lions. I'm the guy that

2096
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 2: worries about the box office. I gotta believe as someone

2097
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:17,719
Speaker 2: with the call Jacksonville today, there was a big bump

2098
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 2: in season ticket sales because they're drafting Travis Hunter. Maybe

2099
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:22,799
Speaker 2: I'm mistaken. I didn't even know what the season ticket

2100
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 2: number is in Jacksonville. I don't think they sell out

2101
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 2: every game, but I think that he was a big

2102
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 2: boost to ticket sales after he was drafted. People want

2103
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 2: to see him play, really.

2104
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 3: I mean, they love him. He's passionate.

2105
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 4: He does a really good job not only playing, but

2106
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 4: just who he is, the energy that he brings.

2107
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun to watch. Yeah.

2108
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 2: So when he was drafted on TV, he just ran

2109
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 2: down the hallway. He was crazy, he really was, and

2110
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 2: that was great. I mean, you know, I think people

2111
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 2: have to realize these are kids, you know, the kids

2112
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 2: in that mindset playing a kid's game, that's basically what

2113
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:02,559
Speaker 2: an is, and they're going into the business world. In

2114
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,719
Speaker 2: the National Football League, and he was happy as a lark.

2115
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 2: He was jumping up and down, a million dollar smile.

2116
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta feel for these guys. It's great.

2117
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 2: It's a life changer. That's what it is, a life change.

2118
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,640
Speaker 2: I loved it, I really did. And we'll pick up

2119
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 2: on this and so much more. Because Bucky's gotta get

2120
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 2: a drink and spin up some stuff. I don't want

2121
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 2: to hear about it.

2122
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:23,599
Speaker 5: You gotta do that.

2123
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 2: He's Bucking Brooks getting my necks at Bucket Brooks had

2124
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Speaker 2: Andy Furman FSR eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox

2125
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 2: that's our number left to hear from you at eight

2126
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Speaker 2: seven seven nine ninety six sixty three sixty nine. And

2127
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 2: some say the criticism is laughable. That's next never seen before.

2128
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 2: We'll explain that in just about a minute. This is

2129
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Ports. Ready, he's Bucket Brooks

2130
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,839
Speaker 2: and Andy Furman. We're live from the Fox Puts Radio studios.

2131
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 2: And by the way, calm the chaos car all you

2132
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 2: hate is on your door, Sanders. Calm the chaos. How

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Speaker 2: com code sports, all right, Buck, you feel better? Did

2136
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Speaker 2: you get it out?

2137
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 3: I did? I did? I did? I got it out

2138
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 3: much better.

2139
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:15,799
Speaker 2: Must look like a rainbow. I don't want to know anymore.

2140
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 2: That's about rainbow.

2141
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 3: I just hugged it and flushed like nothing, nothing majeor.

2142
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 2: Okay, you got the playing game in about twelve minutes

2143
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 2: from now, so we'll do that. But the NFL draft

2144
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 2: we talked about that had one of the more intriguing

2145
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 2: first rounds in recent years this year this past week,

2146
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:34,719
Speaker 2: with only two quarterbacks getting taken around one the fewest

2147
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 2: since Kenny Pickett was the lone first round selection twenty

2148
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 2: twenty two. And Kenny Pickett, you're gonna be moving to

2149
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:42,799
Speaker 2: the sidelines because she Doer Sanders is coming to Cleveland

2150
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 2: right now now. This was the first draft that had

2151
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 2: multiple tight ends, Colston Lovelin and Tyler Warren drafted in

2152
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 2: the first fourteen picks, the first time since nineteen seventy three.

2153
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 2: SEC at fifteen picks, Big ten at eleven combined for

2154
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 2: twenty six of the thirty two selections in the first round.

2155
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 2: You talk about big time play, big time conferences, Big

2156
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:06,759
Speaker 2: ten SEC. They dominated twenty six or thirty two picks. Unreal.

2157
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, they dominated when they became too basically super conferences.

2158
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 4: You made it very very easy for scouts to know

2159
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 4: where to go to see the best talent. The talent

2160
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 4: now resides in the SEC like it always has, and

2161
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 4: now the Big ten is coming on like gamebusters. That

2162
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 4: is reflective of how the league sees it. When the

2163
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:28,599
Speaker 4: draft has twenty six out of thirty two coming from

2164
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 4: Big ten teams, how does it change or will it change? No,

2165
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 4: it's not going to change because what those teams are

2166
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 4: doing in the current state of affairs is they're waiting

2167
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:41,639
Speaker 4: for you to go play somewhere smaller, don't win rings,

2168
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 4: but then when you've developed enough, we'll bring you up.

2169
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 3: That's how they're doing.

2170
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 4: It's just a different it's a different hustle, but it's

2171
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 4: a minor league system. And so you go from small

2172
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 4: school to non group of five I mean, and then

2173
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 4: to group of five or a super conference and then

2174
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 4: you get picked.

2175
01:42:58,600 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 3: That's how it operates.

2176
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 2: Let me let me take a little bit of a

2177
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:03,599
Speaker 2: detour on the road if I can. Right now, we're

2178
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 2: talking about college recruiting. I've noticed that maybe I'm wrong.

2179
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 2: I'm not a college recruit by any means, but college

2180
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 2: is right now bypassing the four year possibility of getting

2181
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 2: a high school stud a five star high school player.

2182
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 2: Rather than do that, go into the portal and get

2183
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 2: a guy that's in the portal.

2184
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 4: Yes, Rather they have somebody in the portal because he's

2185
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 4: ready to go right now. I do not want to

2186
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 4: wait on someone developed. I can have the urgency that

2187
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 4: I needed to win right now. Take a few of them.

2188
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 4: But nah, there're more guys that are living in the portal.

2189
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 1: You know.

2190
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 2: It's funny because I would think, and maybe I'm wrong.

2191
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:41,679
Speaker 2: I mean, do you have to pay an nil high

2192
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 2: school kid? I mean, is he getting paid as well

2193
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:47,679
Speaker 2: out of high school? Is he getting because the portal

2194
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:48,639
Speaker 2: guys get money.

2195
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's getting money. Everybody gets money now something they

2196
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 3: already get money on my kind of money.

2197
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 2: It's funny why I say that, because you know, I

2198
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 2: write a I write for the Brooklyn Daily Eagle newspaper, Brooklyn,

2199
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 2: New York, and I have a high school column on Friday.

2200
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 2: The high school coaches sent me stuff, and when I

2201
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 2: write about these high school seniors that are doing well

2202
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 2: in the old city teams and things like that. I

2203
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 2: mailed clippings out to various coaches across the country, and

2204
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:18,679
Speaker 2: I mailed the basketball wanted Doug Gottlieb, and he texted

2205
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 2: me back he said, you know what, we go in

2206
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,640
Speaker 2: the portal. He didn't want high school kids, you know,

2207
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 2: Green Bay. I just, you know, kind of like a

2208
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 2: smack of the face to me. I mean, so it's

2209
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 2: kind of rough if you're a high school player right now,

2210
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 2: be a football or basketball to get recruited, isn't it.

2211
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you're taking a second seat to guys that

2212
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 2: already played the game in college.

2213
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:39,679
Speaker 4: You are, so now you got to cast your eyes

2214
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 4: completely differently on what your end goal is at the

2215
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 4: end of high school. Are you okay going to junior

2216
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 4: college or are you okay going to a D three college?

2217
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 4: Just to continue to play. You have to have realistic

2218
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:52,639
Speaker 4: and horror conversations with parents about this.

2219
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 3: Is what the path looks like for you. Kid. If

2220
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:56,640
Speaker 3: you're not willing to do that, you don't have a

2221
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 3: tough time finding a spot to play.

2222
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 2: It really is. Things have changed. I think a lot

2223
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 2: of coaches can't handle him, really, but things have changed,

2224
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:07,640
Speaker 2: and really it's not so much recruiting and having to

2225
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 2: win the parents over in the living room. You got

2226
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 2: to bring the checkbook. That's basically what wins him over.

2227
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 2: Right now, how much you're paying me, coach, how much

2228
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,680
Speaker 2: you pay men Otherwise, that's it. That's with the name

2229
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 2: of the game. So we'll see what happens. And we

2230
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 2: talked about should standers agnauseum today, We really did. But

2231
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 2: there's one guy, one guy who defended should do sand

2232
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 2: is from the beginning to the end. His name is

2233
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 2: Jared Bell from USA today, and he said, there's a

2234
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 2: narrative and his talent, his mechanics, his arm, strength, his character,

2235
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 2: all those things have been criticized during the ramp up

2236
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 2: to the draft, right and look, they say he's hold

2237
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 2: on to the ball too long, he had shaky protection,

2238
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 2: his production, his toughness is resilience. Maybe could challenge that

2239
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 2: as well. But you can't knock this. He passed for

2240
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 2: thirty four yards, He passed for thirty seven touchdowns. He

2241
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 2: led the Nations with seventy four percent completion rate last year.

2242
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 2: But he was not a first round pick. He's picked

2243
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 2: fifth round, one hundred and forty fourth by the Cleveland Browns.

2244
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 2: But the funny thing is the only time I read

2245
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 2: any comments by his dad, who happened to be his coach.

2246
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 2: The great Deon Sanders is like in Jared Bell's comms.

2247
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 2: I guess Jared Bell has a relationship with Dion. I

2248
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 2: don't think Deon talked to anybody else. And Dion said,

2249
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 2: un quoting, just say you don't like me. He's talking

2250
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 2: about the kid. Just say you're tired of me winning,

2251
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:32,640
Speaker 2: You're tired of me being the light, tired of me

2252
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 2: being up, just consistently provoking change, withever I go. Just

2253
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 2: say that, but don't attack my kids because of that.

2254
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 2: And I'm waiting for Dion Sanders in a day or

2255
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 2: so to come out and blast everybody. I think he will.

2256
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:49,799
Speaker 4: I don't know if you'll come out and blast everybody,

2257
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 4: but I do know he is not necessarily happy with

2258
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:53,680
Speaker 4: the way some of.

2259
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 3: The stuff was portrayed, but that's life.

2260
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 4: No one is happy. And I will advise him he

2261
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 4: has to stay off right now. He can't get involved

2262
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 4: in dismiss right now because then it plays to every

2263
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 4: perceived notion that the.

2264
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 3: League had about him. He has to allow should do

2265
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:11,679
Speaker 3: her to wear this.

2266
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 4: One and he has to like lean into him, counsel

2267
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 4: him from afar. But he cannot step in, he cannot

2268
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 4: tweet out stuff. He has to let it go because

2269
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 4: of not it'll be a one and done for him.

2270
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 4: The Browns will be the only opportunity to should should

2271
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 4: do it gets and he won't get another opportunity the parents.

2272
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 2: It's sad, it really really it's not.

2273
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 3: It's not sad.

2274
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:33,760
Speaker 4: But you got to understand is look, it's a privilege.

2275
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:36,600
Speaker 4: You're not entitled to play on Sundays.

2276
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:37,759
Speaker 3: It's a privilege.

2277
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 4: So if you want to play, you gotta you gotta look,

2278
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,559
Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta dance along, you gotta play along.

2279
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 4: You don't have to lose yourself. But there's some standards

2280
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 4: and protocols that you must adhere to if you're gonna

2281
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 4: play in our game. And so that's a decision that

2282
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 4: he'll have to make. Is it mature enough to make

2283
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 4: that decision on his own?

2284
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:56,599
Speaker 2: I don't know if you had a chance to see

2285
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 2: some of the comments on social media, and we talk

2286
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:00,639
Speaker 2: some about we talk about some of them earlier today,

2287
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,639
Speaker 2: but you know, the the race, the race card came

2288
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 2: into it and people were saying and I think they

2289
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 2: were African American people that wrote these things. I don't know,

2290
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 2: but maybe I'm wrong. I just assumed that they were.

2291
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 2: And they said, I'm giving up in the National Football League.

2292
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm not following the league anymore. I'm giving up. I'm

2293
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 2: you know, it's a racial thing and collusion, and you know,

2294
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:22,600
Speaker 2: I initially I kind of went the collusion route. You know,

2295
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 2: after the first two three rounds, I thought maybe they

2296
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 2: got together, they want to draft the guy. But the

2297
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 2: racial thing, man, that was ugly, you know, the fake

2298
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 2: general manager calling them up, the AI thing, you know

2299
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:36,639
Speaker 2: that that's garbage, it's really but the the racial thing

2300
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 2: that to me, that that hurt. I mean, to put

2301
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:42,720
Speaker 2: that card away. I don't think that was even in

2302
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 2: any way, matter of form or shape, had anything to

2303
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 2: do with this. I mean, and you could tell me that,

2304
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:49,639
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not I know.

2305
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 3: It's not. Yeah, no, it's no.

2306
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 4: I won't say it's racist. It wasn't racist. They didn't

2307
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 4: keep them out because they're racist. I would say that

2308
01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 4: here is like one of the the impacts of not

2309
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 4: having a diverse front office, meaning that we all saw

2310
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 4: the draft room pictures, right, and the draft room pictures

2311
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:12,639
Speaker 4: featured a lot of people that looked like each other.

2312
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 4: There wasn't a scope of folks that were in those

2313
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 4: draft rooms. By and large, what happens is when you

2314
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 4: have a guy like your door that walks in that room.

2315
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 4: If you have no one who has either lived that experience,

2316
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 4: you may feel a kind of a certain kind of

2317
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 4: way when he walks in.

2318
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,000
Speaker 3: However, if you have a ko scope of.

2319
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 4: People, they may be able to interpret his actions and say, oh,

2320
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:35,640
Speaker 4: he's just doing X, Y and Z.

2321
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:37,599
Speaker 3: He's that, and it may not be.

2322
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 4: Viewed as I don't say as a threat, right because

2323
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 4: it's not threatening. It may not be viewed as how

2324
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 4: it's been perceived as arrogant, confidence or whatever. Someone in

2325
01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:49,520
Speaker 4: the room may suggest that, oh, he's just kind of swaggy.

2326
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 4: He just has swag, Like, Hey, don't worry about that.

2327
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 4: It's just swag. It's just a put on. It's nothing

2328
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 4: too that. His heart is good. He just has a

2329
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 4: lot of swag. And that may end the conversation. But

2330
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 4: if you don't have that room, it can be he's arrogant,

2331
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 4: he's cocky, he's conceded, he doesn't care about this and that.

2332
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:09,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes when we're doing this process.

2333
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 4: You want to have multiple people that can get around

2334
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:16,000
Speaker 4: a player to get a true assessment of a player.

2335
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 4: Because my background is different than your background, Andy, So

2336
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 4: when I talk to a player and we hit on

2337
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:22,759
Speaker 4: a certain level, I'm able.

2338
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 3: To talk about that.

2339
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:25,720
Speaker 4: When you talk to him, you may talk to him

2340
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 4: and y'all may connect on a different level. That is

2341
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 4: why we talk about diversity mattering in terms of those rooms,

2342
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 4: because when you have divergent thought, different thoughts, And I'm

2343
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 4: not talking about just racial diversion, I'm just talking about

2344
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 4: different socio economic things, Like you have different touchways and

2345
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 4: points where you can relate with a player different so

2346
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 4: you can get a full profile of the player, That's

2347
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 4: what I mean. And so some of that come into play.

2348
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 4: But yeah, like I understand that, and people talk about

2349
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 4: the double standards and all that, and he needs to

2350
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 4: carry himself this way and that way and with what's

2351
01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 4: the difference in cam Ward and him and all that, Like,

2352
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:01,600
Speaker 4: there are a bunch of things in play, and I

2353
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 4: would say that they made some missteps along the way

2354
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 4: because he turned down opportunities to eliminate some of those

2355
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 4: questions about him when he decided not to work out

2356
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 4: and perform at the East West, the Combine Pro, the

2357
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:20,480
Speaker 4: Big twelve Pro Day, and then did everything on the showcase.

2358
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:26,839
Speaker 4: He turned down opportunities to convince a legion of people

2359
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 4: that are, Okay, you know what, I rock with him.

2360
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 4: I'll go with him because he's good enough. I saw

2361
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 4: I'm at the Combine. I so I'm doing at the

2362
01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 4: East West. He was great, he's great, he's great now.

2363
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 4: But advocate. But when you turn down those opportunities, you

2364
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:39,880
Speaker 4: pigeonhole yourself a little bit.

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01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 3: And that's ultimately what can't make to buite him?

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01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:44,280
Speaker 2: What's the reason to turn it down? Why would you

2367
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 2: turn that down?

2368
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 4: See, the noise is always loud, Andy, right, so now

2369
01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 4: the noise is loud. Remember now, more thanever, we have

2370
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 4: everyone that tunes into these events and they weigh in

2371
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:57,080
Speaker 4: with their opinion. This generation also grows up on social media.

2372
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 4: So what did we hear about Will Howard at the

2373
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 4: Combine when, oh my god, it's the worst passing exposition

2374
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 4: we've ever seen at the Combine? Oh my god, how

2375
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 4: can anybody ever take this kid? Because it was so horrible?

2376
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 4: YadA YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. Why would you want to

2377
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 4: subject yourself to that. It takes someone who is really

2378
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 4: strong mind in will to be like, oh, I'm cool.

2379
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,760
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what they think. But the noise in

2380
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:25,599
Speaker 4: the drum beat is loud, and for some people who

2381
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 4: live on social man, it's hard for them to handle

2382
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:32,680
Speaker 4: all of that. So that's why, because the combine is

2383
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 4: such a thing where we're just such have such an

2384
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 4: appetite for football that we look at a combine and

2385
01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:38,960
Speaker 4: we act like it it matters.

2386
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 3: It's the only thing. It's a part of the evaluation,

2387
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:42,839
Speaker 3: but it's not everything.

2388
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 4: And so some guys don't want to put themselves out there.

2389
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 4: And for instance, Will Johnson didn't run throughout the whole process,

2390
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 4: and so that leads to questions about, well, how fast

2391
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 4: is he?

2392
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:55,680
Speaker 3: Does he have anything this and that.

2393
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 4: So what happened to Will Johnson in the corner from Michigan,

2394
01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:00,840
Speaker 4: who we talked about being a top ten pick at

2395
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:04,599
Speaker 4: the beginning of the process, He's drafted in the second round. Andy,

2396
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:08,720
Speaker 4: everybody thinks that these things are Gotcha's right, Oh, the

2397
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 4: combine is a gotch you. We're trying to take money

2398
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 4: out of your pocket. We're trying to find something bad. Oh,

2399
01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 4: the pro day is this. No, those things enable us

2400
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 4: to validate some of our opinions on you. It's not

2401
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 4: to hurt you. It's for us to be able to

2402
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 4: have a comprehensive report. So now we feel good about advocating.

2403
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 4: But when you opt out of some of those things, well,

2404
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 4: now you just kind of leave it to the jury.

2405
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 4: So it's like being on trial if you decide not

2406
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 4: to put on the defense and say, hey, it is

2407
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:38,800
Speaker 4: what it is.

2408
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm good.

2409
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,400
Speaker 4: Okay, So now we're going to go to the jury

2410
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 4: room and we'll figure it out. That's what you've done.

2411
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 4: You didn't present a case to make us feel great

2412
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 4: about it. And some of these guys that elected not

2413
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 4: to do these things, that's what happened, and it's your

2414
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 4: doer's case. He didn't practice at all during the East

2415
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 4: West Shrine game, Like he didn't. It's one thing not

2416
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 4: to play, but he didn't practice. He didn't throw at

2417
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 4: all at the Big twelve Pro Day. Okay, it's one

2418
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:08,760
Speaker 4: thing to you know, throw and it not work out.

2419
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 4: But he put all of his eggs in the showcase

2420
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 4: basket and the showcase was just okay. It wasn't a

2421
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 4: great performance. That now plays into the narrative. Well, I

2422
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 4: don't know how talented he is. You know, the last

2423
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 4: time I saw I don't know how talented the year,

2424
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 4: and then I saw him at the showcase. I don't

2425
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 4: have anything else to change that opinion. That's where it matters.

2426
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 3: You know.

2427
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 2: Let me leave you with this quickly, because you mentioned

2428
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 2: the combine. NFL reporter just Cina Anderson reported during the combine,

2429
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks coach for one team with one of the

2430
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 2: top seven picks maintained that should do. It came up

2431
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 2: as quote brash and quote arrogant during his interview with

2432
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 2: the team. And this is what Dion had to say

2433
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 2: about that quote the brother who lied and said that

2434
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:53,040
Speaker 2: I know what team he's from. This is what Dion said.

2435
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 2: So I called the head coach. I said, dr come

2436
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 2: on man, this is what we're doing. The coach told

2437
01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 2: Dea the characterization was off base. This is ruined them.

2438
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it really did. I mean, you got some

2439
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 2: reporter that said that and it wasn't true.

2440
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 4: I didn't know, so maybe it was true, right, Maybe

2441
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 4: it was true and just sent and reported that, and

2442
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 4: then the reaction from Dion called him the coach. Maybe

2443
01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 4: that's what teams were fearful love when they said, you

2444
01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 4: know what, I'll.

2445
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 3: Go somewhere else.

2446
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 4: I won't even take him, all right, because you just

2447
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 4: said that, Josina put out the report Dion called the

2448
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 4: head coach.

2449
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 3: Maybe some of the teams that didn't take.

2450
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 4: Your door were doing it because man, I don't want

2451
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 4: to deal with the Dion effect.

2452
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 3: If I take him and I.

2453
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 4: Coach him hard, and what if he tells Dion that

2454
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 4: I yelled at him? Is he gonna call I'm not

2455
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 4: saying it's true, but like that's how some people think.

2456
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:50,600
Speaker 4: So then when you have choices, right, you have choices

2457
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:54,800
Speaker 4: to make. I can take this player who everything is quiet,

2458
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 4: or I can take this player where everything is loud

2459
01:55:57,560 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 4: and noisy.

2460
01:55:59,080 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna take the choiet.

2461
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:01,360
Speaker 4: I don't want to have to deal with it because

2462
01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 4: what is the thing that you always talk about distractions

2463
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 4: in the locker room, Like people don't want to deal

2464
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:08,800
Speaker 4: with distractions. And I'm not saying that Prime is a distraction.

2465
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 4: But if that happened at the combine and word travel

2466
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 4: through the league, a man Prime called the coach.

2467
01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 3: Man.

2468
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 4: So then they gets to another team and team is like, hey, guys,

2469
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 4: look I just heard that like e before came out

2470
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:29,520
Speaker 4: and Dion call so now it So that's how it

2471
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 4: all whatever, So it's not collusion. The word travels right

2472
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:36,880
Speaker 4: and so that could lead to some of the stuff.

2473
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Freman. He's a real way

2474
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 2: to blow off some steam. The playing game. It's freaking next,

2475
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 2: all right, the blame game right around the bend. This

2476
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday. He's Bucking Brooks and Andy Freman.

2477
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:51,720
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2478
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2480
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Speaker 2: that shipstation dot com, Coach Sports, Top of the Hour,

2481
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Speaker 2: Top of the Yacht, do not go anywhere right here

2482
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio Countdown with my guy Brian, Bill

2483
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:09,280
Speaker 2: Krapnelberger and Jeff Schwartz. But right now, it is the

2484
01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 2: playing game with me.

2485
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 1: It's all your fault. It's your fault. This is all

2486
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 1: your fault. Maybe it's everyone's fault. She's a liar. That's

2487
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 1: why there's the blame game game. Let's figure out who

2488
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 1: to blame.

2489
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 2: He's a liar.

2490
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 6: I'm not that much of a liar today. But I

2491
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 6: can't say I can't lie because we all lie. But

2492
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 6: who do you blame on this one? Andy and Bucky So?

2493
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:41,879
Speaker 6: Hockey fans in the USA might have noticed something different

2494
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 6: from dnt's broadcast of Game one between Winnipeg and Saint Louis,

2495
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:49,720
Speaker 6: the Jets and the Blues. So John Foresland and Jennifer

2496
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 6: Barterill called the game from a studio in Atlanta.

2497
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:55,560
Speaker 1: Who do you blame?

2498
01:57:55,680 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks, oh Man, that's weird. I blamed the broadcast team.

2499
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 4: He just decided to go l cheap or route, So

2500
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 4: I blame them.

2501
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 2: I blame TNT. You know why? It's a collusion? I

2502
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,760
Speaker 2: guess the NHL collusion like they do what like should

2503
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:12,520
Speaker 2: do a Sanders.

2504
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 1: It's collusion.

2505
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 6: That's the new term for now, all right, well collusion indeed? Well,

2506
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 6: next on, guys. Leaders of the college football playoff met

2507
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 6: in Dallas the other day. Playoffs will be identical to

2508
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 6: last year, first round bys for the four highest ranked

2509
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 6: in conference champions, another automatic spot, but not a bye

2510
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:32,600
Speaker 6: week for the fifth highest ranked conference champion and next

2511
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 6: seven highest ranked teams at the end of the season.

2512
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 5: Who do you blame?

2513
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:39,640
Speaker 2: And d they're too lazy to change, and I blame

2514
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 2: the committee. They wanted to expand it. I guess they

2515
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 2: didn't expand this year. But you know what, it's okay,

2516
01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 2: leave it the way it is.

2517
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 4: I like it, you know, I think just leave it

2518
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:49,880
Speaker 4: the way it is, don't mess with it, like let

2519
01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 4: it just let it be what it's gonna be.

2520
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 3: I think it's too late in the game to kind

2521
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 3: of change and rearrange. I'm okay with it.

2522
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:58,520
Speaker 2: As is, just like the Beatles, let it be, all right.

2523
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:01,440
Speaker 6: Well, we're not gonna let college football be because we

2524
01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 6: got one more with them. So one way you can

2525
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 6: tell your favorite college football team really stinks, guys. Simple

2526
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 6: That team is always in the highlight film as the

2527
01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 6: opposing team after a player is drafted.

2528
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 5: Who do you blame for this, Bucky Brooks.

2529
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:19,040
Speaker 4: I blame your opposing team that's always getting smashed.

2530
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 3: I can't if your team is bad, they're gonna pick

2531
01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 3: on you. They gonna Everyone knows what those highlight games are.

2532
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:26,640
Speaker 3: So it's it's on the team to be better.

2533
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:29,160
Speaker 2: You gotta play in the coach. Coach is gonna get

2534
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:32,040
Speaker 2: fired you keep on showing that film every time. Every

2535
01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:34,280
Speaker 2: time I see someone gets strafted. Usually it's against the

2536
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:37,760
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. It really is. Defensively, they're terrible. So what

2537
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 2: they do they fight Luanaumo. They blamed him, That's what

2538
01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 2: they did. He was a scapegoat, all right.

2539
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 6: Last one guys, the Sheder Sanders Caper, projected as the

2540
01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 6: first round selection, dumped after three.

2541
01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 1: Who do you blame?

2542
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:53,400
Speaker 6: Final blame Andy, collosion, collosion the league.

2543
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 2: That's what it was.